This may be the best post on Reddit right now. Please x post this everywhere.

Whether it was intentional or not, I agree that he did do us a huge favor.

Spez needs to learn about r/limitedhangouts

/r/LimitlessHangup

Idk y u don't like me

You defame whistleblowers like it's your job.

False. William binney and Bradley Manning are American heroes

Just because I question the official story on former cia agent Snowden doesn't mean you have to dislike me

You don't just question it, you promote and advertise FUD, and in the beginning you used like a dozen accounts to do it, upvoting yourself. Shady as fuck.

Idk what fud means, I'd it fear uncertainty. .. and distraction? That's prob it Ive heard the term before,,, not too shady just a silly strategy and it's been easily more then a year since I done that so...

• https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fear,_uncertainty_and_doubt

You went around making hard claims (sans any evidence) that Snowden was a malicious actor, misrepresenting your opinion as fact over and over again with multiple accounts, and even went as far as to use those alts to reply to and agree with yourself, trying to trick the readers of /r/conspiracy into thinking that there was a false sense of consensus. That's the same kind of shit that the /r/conspiratard mods did at the time.

While doing all of this you spammed links to your sub in nearly every single thread here, whether it related to Snowden/spying or not. I think you are responsible in large part for gullible people being misled into thinking that Snowden and Greenwald and Poitras aren't to be trusted, when in fact there is zero evidence to support that assertion. That's defamation, and I hate defamation regardless of if the defamer has good intentions or not.

Maybe Greenwald didn't know he's been played? That's most probable. Do you think tptb would let such a noble whistle-blower on the cover of time? Real whistle blowers dont get coverage by the corporate media(binney, Manning etc)

Proof? You're still just misrepresenting your opinion as fact.

Also I doubt you've read much Greenwald, before or after Snowden.

Ye a true. Its been like 8 months since I looked at his Twitter or read one of his articles. I've moved on

Also I'm on your side. Assuming ur a good person

It's all good man. I believe you. :)

Thx lad. If u have 30 seconds can u remind me of who dusty was. You've told me awhile ago I think

Some guy the /r/conspiratard crew doxxed and harassed a long time ago.

Just clicked on that: "7 readers; 6 users here now."

Burst out laughing.

Please help me spread it around. People need to understand this. I am too new of a user to be granted much credibility. Enough of this "it's because he's a cannibal" or "this is terrible the world is ending" stuff.

but he is a cannibal tho

I've seen that screenshot but my god. Really? Why? I want an explanation for that cuz I have no idea where that leaves us

I am too new of a user to be granted much credibility.

So, use your main account, bro!

C'mon. What have you to lose, REALLY?

This is my main and only account. I am new to Reddit. Pizzagate drove me to join.

So how can you be new to Reddit and know about everything? This conspiracy doesn't make sense.

That's kind of a good point. How did he pick up on reedits nuances in such short time?

Im really not trying to sound like a paranoid loon guys, but that is a valid point to bring up.

hehe :) i like being the focal point of a conspiracy theory :)

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I am who I am and spez is who he is

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:-D

I hope you aren't actually Debora?

I'd recommend that we maybe don't spread it? I think he's counting on the outrage to accomplish whatever he is going for

He could always deny it. u/spez please publicly deny it if you feel the need to. Who anyways would believe the ramblings of some random debora?

Edit: the more I thought about it, the more sinister it seems.

More here: https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/5evxuk/a_certain_ceo_is_trying_to_cripple_our_domreddit/

There is little doubt in my mind that this was an intentional and carefully orchestrated act rather than "oops I had a hard day and lost control".

Could be he was trying to help and draw attention to pizzagate or undermine Reddit credibility due to it no longer being a bastion of free speech.

Or, he was trying to:

• Trigger additional harassment from "the_donald" users (including potential use of provocateurs)
• Foster distrust of content on "the_donald" making average users question the validity of posts, raise paranoia
• Create dissent between users (divide and conquer), witchhunts of mods, accusations of shilling etc
• funnel pizzagate users to "the_donald" to get them to post PII
• encourage a heightened focus on, and distribution of, pizzagate content on our domreddit because he believes it's stupid and crazy (and/or that it will be perceived as such by the general public) and wants us to burn our energy and/or discredit us
• provoke additional calls for banning or quarantining us from other admins, mods, redditors ("well you went this far, might as well ban them.. You can't handle a few days of harassment?! imagine how we feel")
• increase likelihood that enraged centipedes move to voat, discord, etc (divide and conquer)

He admittedly edited his algorithm to hurt us (not likely if he cares about free expression or draining the swamp). He's on record now begging people to point out when our users leak PII so he'd have an excuse to shut us down. A bug at the height of campaign season indicated that it's highly likely that they have selected us for "special treatment" of some kind.

It is absolutely possible that he was trying to help advance the pizzagate inquest or was trying to warn redditors of some kind of corruption. But I fucking doubt it.

And I refuse to let him force us out on his terms.

I'm not going to call the OP's theory completely wrong, but it's not one I believe. Primary reason? /r/politics. The place became infested with obvious shills, probably slipping Reddit quite a bit of money to do so.

When asked point blank if outside agencies or organizations were influencing the content, he outright denied and said, "of course not."

He could've at least declined to comment if he had a conscience and knew such co-opting was immoral. But he lied instead.

Spez is no hero of mine.

It's a very clever theory and one I flirted with (in much less detail) when pizzagate first shutdown. But the more I think about it the less noble Spazz appears

Yet another mod admitted that there were blatant astroturfers on reddit well before the p_g.

maybe he didn't know the extent of it

like i bet HRC herself didn't know about all the pedo stuff

or bush didn't really know the true agenda of going into Iraq

the people at the top of the chain are rarely the ones pulling the strings, they themselves are the ones getting played

edit: typo

You forgot the possibility that it was done to intimidate the users/mods involved, sort of a "Look what I can do, you insignificant pissants. Don't fuck with us" message. That was how I viewed it initially though I could be completely wrong.

Good point. This is starting to terrify me. Updated in my new post.

it was done to intimidate the users/mods involved

Yeah but if everyone mass exoduses from Reddit because of the implications of spez's actions, then that's a moot point because there'd be no mods to intimidate since everyone will have moved on.

I don't think he's worried about a mass exodus; the only ones leaving would be those involved in T_D, conspiracy, pizzagate, wheresjulianassange, etc. These users are an insignificant blip in the grand scheme of reddit. Plus they'd be doing him a favor as he wouldn't have to shut down any of those subs and risk blowback.

Seems like a fair point.

A total of 400 - 500k users is hardly insignificant.

500k would come out to roughly 0.25%

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And we just made spez a target. Great work...

Let's call it the suicide canary theory.

Hate to be pedantic about the grammar, but 'canary suicide' or 'suicidal canary' would be more grammatically correct though, no?

Thanks Data.

I was thinking of the wording of suicide bomber. Though you might be totally right grammatically. I don't even know if the sentence I just wrote makes any sense.

Actually, what he posted is fine. You can look at suicide as an adj ( yes I know that suicidal is an adj, but that just delegates the propensity and tendancy towards suicide) and its all good.

Fuck u/spez

Edited: Thank u/spez for using the Streisand Effect to fit the pizza boxes through the Overton Window.

consequences of his actions were the following: Nothing you ever write or have ever written on Reddit can ever again be held against you in a court of law. It is now common knowledge that employees can/do tamper with the database without leaving any trace.

Bingo! I was thinking the exact same thing.

Fuck you spooks.

Fuck you NSA

Fuck you Law Enforcement types.

And a special big Fuck You to anyone who thinks they have the right to take what you've written and use it against you.

This, we must maintain the outrage. Controversy will draw more attention. If this was his end goal, then our outrage is what he wanted to use to propel this into the public eye. Stay pissed. Stay bringing attention to it.

I was honestly genuinely excited when I saw he mentioned pizzagate in his message. And then I thought it was really odd. They had gone through so much effort to cover it up. Then he just throws it out there in a message that he knows will get press...

If reddit was forced to shut it down, this would really be his only way of helping it get coverage.

Now I'm just laughing at the idea of him waking up to an inbox flooded with messages of appreciation, thanking him for his false flag mental-breakdown.

Fuck u/spez is actually code language for thank u/spez , in the same way pizza is code language for something else.

An evil three letter agency approached him and threatened his entire user base, and spez took these sins away from us by proving that nothing we say on here can actually be taken as fact, thereby granting us all a form of immunity, even salvation.

And now the ongoing suppression of r/pizzagate has caused the Gospel of r/Pizzagate to propagate faster under this oppression than it ever has before.

With all these mobs screaming out "Crucify Him!! Crucify Him!!", we need to take a step back and maybe even thank u/spez for what he's done.

For Spez so loved the Reddit, that he gave his only begotten edit, so that, everyone who believes in him would not perish, but have plausible denability

• u/spez 3:16

fuck u/spez

I wanted to make a Jesus reference too but you did it far better than I ever could

Fuck /u/spez <3

Thank you u/spez. I understand the need to destroy that which you built.

I can't tell if this is ironic or not

... it's the free advice that you just couldn't take...

AND WHO WOULD HAVE THOUGHT IT FIGURES

Fuck u/spez is actually code language for thank u/spez

Kinda like "Primus sucks"

No because Primus actually sucks

For Spez so loved the Reddit, that he gave his only begotten edit, so that, everyone who believes in him would not perish, but have plausible denability u/spez 3:16

That was amazing. You deserve gold, but here is this instead: silver!

Not only that, he could have banned pizzagate without giving out notice. This led to fully backup of the sub and helped migrating to voat.

yeah, there was a warning about it. really good point.

Fuck /u/spez.

Don't forget it.

Fuck /u/spez ; )

Either :
1) He is just totally stupid (unlikely)
2) what you say (likely and positive )
3) they continue their disinfo by making it seem like we getting supressed while we get played along (likely and negative)

no fucking idea anymore

ha, that's really clever. Conspiracy =/= tinfoil, you just have to do it properly

Just remember, the people who said the US government:

1) Had license plate readers all around the country since the 70s
2) Was monitoring US citizen's phone calls and could could tap any person's phone
3) Was collecting metadata from everyone's phones
4) Conspired against Lavabit
5) Conspired against TrueCrypt
6) Was arming right-wing terrorists in Nicaragua
7) Was targeting blacks with Nixon's War on Drugs policy
8) Was illegally influencing US media corporations (Operation Mockingbird, and whatever else is yet to be proven)
9) Lead in consumer products was mass-poisoning the US population (later proven, and lead to new regulations)
10) CIA Drug Running to fund terrorism (Gary Webb won a Pulitzer for this)

Were all crazy, lunatic, crackpot conspiracy theories.

Look how far we've come. Now the US government just publicly conspires to force Apple to break all its encryption, and to a lot of people that just seems normal.

This is another illustration of how far we've fallen into 1984:

In the X-Files Season 1, Episode 17, "E.B.E." the creator Christ Carter introduced the "The Lone Gunmen conspiracy theorists. The characters, who were used to help Mulder appear more credible"¹

From the episode:

SCULLY: Those were the most paranoid people I have ever met. I don’t know how you could think that what they say is even remotely plausible.

SCULLY: Did you see the way they answered the telephone? They probably think that every call that they get is monitored and they’re followed wherever they go.

The government monitoring all of your phone calls used to be thought of as so unbelievable that it was used to make alien abduction seem credible. That's how far we've come.

Sources for the X-Files info: 1 - Episode's Wiki Page! 2 - Episode Script!

You forgot the Tuskegee experiments and a few other involuntary human experiments but solid list.

It was never meant to be all-inclusive, that would take too much time

True.

Know of any such full lists somewhere?

Look up George Washington's blog, it is full of very useful such lists. Here is for example his list of false flag attacks admitted by historians and the MSM:

http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2015/02/x-admitted-false-flag-attacks.html

Damn. Thanks for the link. I need to look at this in small doses or i'll get a heart attack.

The NSA actively pushed flawed cryptographic standards via the NIST [0] (thereby weakening national security) and even dug underground and put splitters on the unencrypted fiber lines that connect Google and Yahoo's data centers [1]!

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dual_EC_DRBG

[1] https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2013/oct/30/google-reports-nsa-secretly-intercepts-data-links

It's true. Someone should really make a list of all of the confirmed "conspiracy theories" and it could sit on the sidebar.

Isn't it really just so appropriate for government to pursue their objective, not through hiring the best and the brightest, but by weakening national security and screwing up cryptographic standards?

Aside from this kind of thing being disgusting to look at, the fact is everyone in America will lose in the long run to this kind of crooked bullshit, and the long run might not be that far away.

That's dedication

My first guess was he's trying to trigger more harassment against himself so they have an excuse to ban more subreddits.

if he can edit the DB no biggy he could just create fake harassment against himself to justify banning subreddits. He could just take over currently active accounts and harass himself with them. Hell he could just do something that would get himself harassed like simply post something stupid in r/TD

Exactly. If he wanted to tamper in a non-obvious manner he could have easily done it. He could have subtly manipulated the whole narrative, e.g. create a throw-away account and give it huge karma (or take over any such existing account), post an article/propaganda of his choosing, give it 10000 votes, whatever. There are no limits to what you can do if you can read/write the db. Especially for a smart guy like him. This childish rampage of his has no other rational explanation IMO, especially given the numerous precedents.

How likely is it the government served Reddit with a formal request to shut the sub + gag order not to talk about it? Very likely IMO, they do it all the times on a variety of issues. This gov is completely un-inhibited when it comes to its war on truth. And sometimes tech founders don't like that, so they turn against their company. Most often they don't and the platform gets utterly compromised without anyone knowing (think twitter, fb, ig, etc.)

Exactly

That doesn't make sense though. He already has access to the big, red nuke button. Not that it's impossible but at this point what do the admins care about public relations? They could just delete whatever they want and tell you to go fuck yourself. What's your recourse, going to voat?

I think OP may be closer to the truth than you think here.

I think it's an attempt to fracture the reddit userbase and get users from select subs (the_donald, pizzagate, conspiracy) to revolt and voluntarily leave. Leaving reddit and its advertisers a 'safer' more profitable platform.

You're giving them too much credit.

Yeah Im sorry but I have to disagree. Anyone who has seen the interview with spez where he goes into detail saying:

(Paraphrasing) "We know your deepest and darkest secrets. Even the ones you are not willing to disclose publicly. We know everything about you."

To which the other person says. Ughh yeah, that is creepy Im going to stop using reddit.

Then spez goes onto say:

"Try. You'll be back."

Yeah, sorry folks he is not one of the good guys.

When he says "we know everything about you" he's rendering a great service. We know what to expect. The rest is plausible deniability.

That Pizzagate ban / gag order was his red line. There are precedents and this very obviously advertises Pizzagate. IMO there is no other rational explanation, apart from a nervous breakdown (twice, when editing and then later when admitting). I prefer to think he's a conscious human being. Pizzagate has turned a lot of people.

i am sure reddit got pushed into deleating pizzagate from higer ups.
It was all justed timed to well ( the MSM reddit twitter facebook ) all the FAKE PIZZAGATE IS FAKE shit happned in a time span of less then 24 hours )

Thats what makes me open my eyes. Its so obvious and in our face. Read the writing on the walls people.

Yep, as soon as the fake news thing started going around I knew pizzagate was real. It was too perfectly timed. Now anyone you try to explain it to will have the fake news thought primed in their head. They would rather believe it was fake than real so it plays into psychology perfectly.

"Try. You'll be back."

Izzat so? Challenge accepted.

Come back, I have an urgent message for you.

this I'M ON THE BANDWAGON NOW NO SAVING GRACES mentality is a massive issue with the human mind in general, and is responsible for many of society's biggest conflicts. Or at least that's my two pence.

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I don't understand what you mean, whether you're being ironic or whether that irony is at my expense or not. Sorry.

Fuck yeah. Thanks for this post.

this is quite clever, but just one thing.

More importantly he's an elite coder, he's a hacker.

idk if you're getting this from elsewhere, but someone who can code is not necessarily someone who can hack.

Amongst programmers, hacking has two meanings. Primarily it means just programming, possibly in a clever way. Secondarily it means cracking or black hat activities.

I'm a software engineer, and I've never heard of standard coding being referred to as hacking. Hacking is the term used for gaining access to data that should not be accessible, that's it.

Hacking has two defenitions

1. To gain access to (a computer file or network) illegally or without authorization: hacked the firm's personnel database.
2. To alter (a computer program): hacked her text editor to read HTML.

And then there is hack together

1. to hack, with the result being something quickly and sloppily created, or modified to solve a particular problem.

Now in this case i think u/beeeeeeefcake is referring to the second definition of the first one. where u would be referring to the first one of the first definition.

I agree with your definitions, but that's not what the OP said. He said:

Primarily it means just programming, possibly in a clever way.

So if I write a small program that adds two numbers together, in a fancy way, then I'm hacking according to the OP, which is incorrect. Sorry to be pedantic, but I'm getting sick of the term "hacker" being overused and misused.

What you quoted is exactly what happens at hack days.

Hacking is the term used for gaining access to data that should not be accessible, that's it.

I always thought that was called cracking. Not a programmer but I can say "Hello World!" in five different languages.

You've never heard it being used to mean writing a quick workaround in the code for some strange bug fix? I have numerous times

Yes, in that context you could call a workaround a "hack", but to call the person who did it a "hacker" wouldn't be common.

Completely false. Richard Stallman calls himself a hacker as do many old school programmers. You need to read your history. https://stallman.org/articles/on-hacking.html

They call themselves hackers because they are. The fact that they are programmers doesn't automatically make them hackers. Also, you probably shouldn't act like an arrogant prick when your argument doesn't work.

I feel bad for you, you claim to be an engineer but you don't even understand the basic terminology and history of what your field is based on. Really sad. http://www.catb.org/jargon/html/H/hacker.html (please note #8)

You really feel bad for me? You must be very sensitive. Thanks for your tears, sweetheart.

Then it may surprise you that one of the main news aggregators for programmers is called Hacker News. Also when people sign messages with "Happy hacking" don't be alarmed.

What's that got to do with anything?

Because it's commonly used as a synonym for programming in a sense unrelated to anything black hat.

http://www.catb.org/jargon/html/H/hacker.html

Ask your elders about the jargon file.

If that is not proof, I don't know.

Thanks. Per your remark, you are right, that's why I stated both qualities

No. This doesn't in anyway publicize pizza gate. Sped is one of them.

Except that every news article that picks up the story has to mention pizzagate.

And most people who don't already know about it will immediately write it off

Like this will get picked up...

It already has been. There are dozens of articles online from news sites, even the BBC reported on this.

I guess it's a slow newsday, because it's been picked up globally by everyone from The Independent, to CNET, to Der Spiegel. They don't all mention pizzagate, but many of them do. And that's publicity that wouldn't exist otherwise. So either he did this on purpose, or he's very very stupid.

From the other things posted about him I'm going with very stupid.

CEOs are not generally stupid.

Yahoo?

Mavericks are 2-12 right now lol

The Ellen pao fiasco was picked up by many news agencies. Why wouldnt this?

Because of the ministry of truth. I shouldn't have said it won't be picked up. Bad wording. But I do not think much will come of all of it in the press.

You do realise the BBC has it on their website?

And not much will come of it..? what's hard to understand on my line of thinking? With everything going on with fake news and the like this won't be a huge deal.

Awesome post OP! Changed my view ∆

Absolutely wrong.

Why do communities for actual pedophiles still exist? Why? They've been reported. The subreddits are still up.

an INVESTIGATION OF PEDOPHILES was COMPLETELY SHUT DOWN.

Dude. You can miss me with that bullshit.

Dude, have you ever seen Eyes Wide Shut? These people will kill you without a moment's hesitation.

Being in the public spotlight with a gun to your head -- you have limited options.

And twitter is banning people that were reporting CP on twitter.

I enjoyed reading this. Perhaps you're right.

In a related story riseup.net appears to be compromised after not releasimg a canary update. It is time to rise up. Missing ‘canary’ mail prompts alarm over security of RiseUp email service https://www.rt.com/viral/368082-rise-up-canary-missing/

Their Twitter and stuff looks suspect for sure. I mean, that's exactly what the canary is for and people need to listen to it. Interesting and scary shit.

Very well written and quite plausible. The thought had crossed my mind that he might have had some alterior motive - there's definitely been some serious fallout at Reddit HQ regarding pizzagate. And if it's actually the case then /u/spez is a patriot and a hero.

But Occam's razor - given the administration's attitude and actions toward t_d over the last year, plus the tampering of pizzagate muted users before the ban, plus the revelations in the mod chat, I do not believe he would jeopardise his career to stand up for a bunch of deplorables.

This is a very convincing argument, thanks for posting.

Wow this makes alot of sense. He is taking heavy heavy heat for this, and if he indeed did it for the right cause this makes this action a highly honorable one

Fantastic thoughts ... and I for one, think you've just about nailed it

thanks amigo

Even if he was a good guy, I doubt he would risk his position for things like this. See last CEO Pao.

There is some evidence that Ellen tried to resist some of the shittier changes to Reddit. She was then forced to resign.

I meant there was past examples of CEO forced to resign. If he really wanted to change things, there are easier ways. Even though the end is we benefited from his stupidity, his intention might not be for us.

Spez is from the startup silicon valley community. Ellen was from the financial industry. Basically, it would be much harder for spez to go against the grain and keep his career. This way, he can chalk it up to a frustrated mistake in the heat of the moment. Let's be clear- being called a pedophile is no joke and in America it can ruin your life. Just the accusation van ruin your life. Nobody in his community is going to blame him too much. It's the perfect cover.

So trolling people helps him hiding his pedophile tendency?

Lol you guys never quit.

I'm so out of the loop. Were people accusing him?

Excellent post, thank u!

Yep, put this up in a few subs please. It'll never go anywhere from here. Great post man!

Autists like this don't go on random infantile rampages;

I see you haven't interacted with full on autistic people.

I'm full on autistic. I generally don't suffer from random infantile rampages any more though, because I've learned how to eat to minimise my testosterone. When I feel one coming on, I also usually smoke 4-6 cones in roughly five minutes, and that way I'm sufficiently stoned that I can barely remember my own name, let alone Hulk out.

The monster can be kept in its' cage.

Nice, green saving the day again. Really is the most useful drug.

We just care about things that other people don't, that's all. It's not a bad thing. It's purely about how we handle it.

I like it.

Well I went down the pizzagate rabbit hole after seeing this news so I'm sure many others did as well. I'm not entirely sure what to think except I feel like I need a long shower.

Yeah I did the same.

It's a weird rabbit hole as well, because you can yourself look at the Podesta emails etc, and even 'do your own research' a little.

There's no direct proof, but there is a preponderance of implication and circumstantial evidence. By law, that actually is enough to make a conviction, so in this case...

Yeah I've seen too many links and hints and weird stuff to not believe there's some truth behind it all.

But it would really take a number of kids to come forward with first-hand corroborative accounts to get the MSM involved. Otherwise it's just a lot of hand-waving.

Kids are not going to be 'credible' witnesses to our media. First off they have a big right to privacy as minors. Who is going to give the press permission to interview them? Their parents? Get real.

True enough.

I guess I was just wondering what could possibly be considered "evidence" if not over-whelming circumstantial evidence.

lmao this isn't proof but a hypothetical rant..

*OP think about how many other ways he could have accomplished what you're proposing here. This is a stretch.

I posted at the TD..

The bright side. As bad as things are seeming of late, the bright side is positively glaring, as you have realized :)

Thanks, nice perspective.

What we also learned that people don't seem to realize is that SOME ADMINS can also leak chats, possibly user details, etc.

I'm not worried of spez targeting me or specific "normal" users, and editing comments for fun. Clearly his editing wasn't used to entrap people. It was closer to trolling actually.

u/spez

I think you should see this. Thank you.

Just a heads up that it was revealed during the leaked chat that he has username mention alerts turned off.

so he could be the one that leaked the mods chat as well Interesting

Except he wasn't, the guy who did was getting ripped apart on /r/modclub or whatever it's called. He was kissing their asses begging for forgiveness

couldn't agree more, you might like this thread i just wrote about how to deal with the situation also https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/5eqzfb/i_made_a_robot_to_protect_the_conspiracy/

I think you're over playing how easy it would have been to sweep under the rug. Just saying with those mod chats leaked it would have gotten out and he knew that.

"Most Assuredly wont happen again"

Mod of conspiracy is /u/mostassuredlyathrowaway

Heh

This sounds great until you realize the leaked admin / powermod chat logs show it to be wrong. I'd like for it to be true though, honestly.

I thought it sounded like complete bs.

as far as I understood that log all the supermods were fanatics wanting to ban this sub and /r/conspiracy and spez was humoring them ... "you need to understand it before you ban it" stuff ... It is impossible for someone who has grown up with the Internet, who is utterly familiar with the hacker culture, who is involved in open source software, who was very close to one of the greatest online freedom activists that existed (Aaron Swartz), not to be appalled at the censorship and secrecy of this system.

I like the reasoning that on some level this was a calculated shitstorm. It was actually quite an easy signal to pull off. I actually get the same feeling about the election. I mean on one hand trump represents nationalism vs globalism which is not fundamentally different and change and hope, otoh they kicked bernie out so that an unelectable would fight against an absolute deplorable. Its like all so plausible that he will just tap the collective intelligence.. right.

The reality tunnel is completely hamfisted. I feel very strongly sometimes that much of it is in controlled demolition as we speak. There are many layers that we can default down to (exhausting heaven and manifesting hell). I hope we can find new ways to cooperate IRL P2P.

Has anyone else noticed these really flimsy things floating along on nothing more than ignorance waiting to blow up like fact vs feelings

Sorry, No. I watched Spez be a cuck for far too long.

Judging from the leaked chat of the mods and his approval of getting away with it and agreeing with the banning of TD I cant agree. His actions did help us and bring attention but I still believe he acted like an idiot and not some crazy plan on how to lose his position.

I agree with you, it would have come out that he did we he did. OP is way over playing the ability spez would have had to sweep this under the rug.

and really a distraction from the anger our sub should be feeling after a branch of r/conspiracy was recently shut down.

This may be true IF the alteration happened AFTER reddit was supposedly compromised.

When did the alteration by suez occur?

There you go /r/conspiracy, for once we have indication of someone conspiring for the Good.

A "Lone Conspirator"?

I suppose such a scenario might be possible - in the realm of Schizophrenia, at least.

I am, however, convinced that we are fast moving into a phase of tyrannical intrusion and censorship that has been previously unknown and unthinkable in the West - especially the US.

When such MAJOR shifts toward repugnant policy changes take place, they are frequently preceded by PROBLEM>REACTION>SOLUTION scenarios designed create a broad emotional state of PANIC where the Public BEGS for their liberties and privacy to be sacrificed "for the greater good" - in the name of "security", or whatever the emotionally energized (and logically languid) issue of the day might be...

OP asserts that u/spez is playing a role of benevolent martyrdom... whether that thesis holds water remains to be seen... but in any case, we can and should expect a massive authoritarian CRACK DOWN on speech that threatens TPTB.

IT IS HAPPENING - and it has been premeditated.

The primary question is how we, THE PEOPLE, who are ultimately the unwitting dominant force, will respond and react.

I am, however, convinced that we are fast moving into a phase of tyrannical intrusion and censorship that has been previously unknown and unthinkable in the West - especially the US.

I agree that's the plan. But they will fail. The hackers' war is just beginning.

I too sense a crackdown of unprecedented and almost unimaginable levels coming

I suspect Batman would be proud of Spez. Although...

More importantly he's an elite coder, he's a hacker.

There are two groups who use terminology like the above. Journalists who are trying to scare people and advance the government's interests, and narcissistic poseurs. Anyone who is genuinely effective with a computer and doesn't have narcissism issues does not refer to themselves as an "elite hacker."

indeed but you could still say it about someone else. full disclosure, I am not spez posing as a debora111 :)

Everything makes sense. The fact that there is no mention of the CEO scandal on the front page anymore is alarming and not consistent with this theory though. It looks like they wiped it clean. What are your thoughts on that?

It's not a great theory - there would be better ways of accomplishing what OP believes were Spez's intentions. Your evidence supports that. Also, why did Spez continuously ask for evidence of T_D leaking in the admin chat that followed? If he was in the middle of a grand scheme to save T_D & Pizzagate, I don' think that'd be his concern.

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You have to explain his comments on the released admin chat. If he was gearing up for this master scheme, then he would not be repeatedly asking admins for "evidence of T_D leaking."

Intelligent or not, people have emotional limits.

as far as I understood that log all the supermods were fanatics wanting to ban r/the_donald and spez was humoring them ... "you need to understand it before you ban it" stuff ... It is impossible for someone who has grown up with the Internet, who is utterly familiar with the hacker culture, who is involved in open source software, who was very close to one of the greatest online freedom activists that existed (Aaron Swartz), not to be appalled at the censorship and secrecy of this system IMO.

After reading this... dammit /u/spez. I take back the memes if this is true. Send me a sign. If it is the case I'll humbly defend your position as well as publicly do so.

So u/debora111 what's your opinion on u/spez connection to cannibalism? You think he is trying to protect users from being associated with r/cannibals by being in charge? Or you think it's a setup to make him look bad?

Seriously I'd like an answer from anyone who has an idea of WTF is going on with r/cannibals and u/spez

nice try Spez!

but i want to believe

You are truly 31337

Hey it's 1995 again!

I wish.

1995

Good to find someone who must have been on efnet before the big split :) Early 90s is the era spez and I were starting doing the stuff we are doing

I'm going to split the server! 😎

I miss the old EF

Thank you for posting this. I was thinking something similar last night. My thought wasn't as developed as yours, though.

Ok, well, if that is the actual case of the matter i imagine i'll go back and aplogise to him for telling him he won the asshole of the century award :uD

Or, it's, OH shit, burn everything, and hope no one notices it.

yeah he probably would have burned the whole thing down if he could have

Thank you for sharing this. On many levels much of what you say makes a lot of sense. What an incredible time to be alive.

I really want to believe this...

Regarding your link in point 8, the second edit reads;

impossible to get such a piece passed my editor

I find it hard to believe an actual journalist (which I think he claims to be?) would use passed when he meant past.

Or maybe he made a mistake in a very long editorial that most certainly didn't see an editor. I thought the post was fantastic, and it's troubling your ONLY response to it is to call out a small grammatical error. There is too much in that piece that's logical to write it all off over this one error.

I agree with /u/Wlcome2theFuture2015 ... he must have hurriedly typed these edits and made the typo ... it happens ... the body of the text looks extremely professional to me

The movie that will be made about this whole thing years down the road will be amazing.

I find it more likely that he did it as a diversion to distract The_Donald from (((jill stein)))'s fake recount that is funded by Soros. Nobody is talking about it.

Popcorn tastes good.

He was being shadow handed or blackmailed, i assume. There must be a shadow player that is controlling him i assume.

Damn I like your theory! I know nothing about u/spez, but its obvious he didn't just have a mental breakdown and throw a tantrum. I've always considered him an arm of TPTB, but I like how you've flipped the script on him - we can't dismiss any possibility.

I was thinking he did it as an easy way to be the fall guy for all the corruption that's been so obvious on Reddit and usher in a new "unbiased" puppet admin that would seem more credible in the public eye so people are more receptive to propaganda. Essentially trying to hit the reset button on this arm of propaganda.

I never thought of him actually being a good person trying to send a message. Very creative I like it

One thing I completely overlooked is where he did it - that post on r/the_Donald. There is definitely a reason for this and I think it gives your theory credibility

Did u/Spez die for our sins?

Fuck you u/spe...YOU ROCK u/SPEZ!!

The plot thickens.. Great post.

Ever since FBIanon I've been contemplating the rarely considered situation a whitehat (good guy) finds himself in and how he might attempt disclosure. Certainly we need a deeper appreciation for how things work and stop being so damned self-referencial all the time.

Edit: Fuck u/spez - godspeed.

I can't access the link hyper'd "this is what he would have read first", anyone got a saved version?

Can you still not access it? I can so it's really weird if you can't for some reason. Genuinely curious

I'm using Tor but I can see it if I copy it into Chrome :)

I understand that this thread should be taken from multiple angles and that with all conspiracy you should understand where the person comes from and their logic with their opinions. So with that let me begin telling you why I think you're so wrong that it honestly insulted me:

• 1)If he really planned on helping out the pizzagate agenda and the censorship agenda by staging a false flag then why would he surround himself with like minded ultra left liberals who wanted to take down pizzagate and caved into this new concept of censoring "fake news"

• 2) Every martyr that you mentioned ended up completely shutting down their service, all Spez did was send a half ass apology saying that r/the_donald got what they had coming for them. This goes with the agenda that he doesn't feel any sort of regret, even in the logs he talks very cynically about taking out the_donald and even tries to get his loyal followers to help conjure up ideas to help silence the_donald

• 3) He is a cofounder, the board is consistent of like 2 other people and they're practically also cofounders so if they do replace him it'll be another DNC case where they cut off the head of the snake and sow on another snakes head to continue the same nonsense we are tired of.

• 4) He suppresses the_donald votes to r/all (because of alleged bots), but acknowledges that CTR is running amuck for the liberal agenda with the Clintons

• 5) He did sabotage reddits integrity, but it all points in the direction that he really wasn't using his head (possible drunl trolling and didn't think of the consequences). I also have no idea how you think he saw one post on r/pizzagate (during his process of shutting down pizzagate) and thought he had some great awakening. I mean you really are day dreaming or being very very very optimistic that he isn't a complete scumbag.

He isn't courageous, and everything you listed are things that have yet to have any merit and are complete stretches even in fictional movie terms. Nobody allows CTR to openly run amuck, discuss sabotaging a president elects reddit page, takes down a reddit page on the possibility of nationwide/worldwide pedophilia and does that for a courageous reason. If he wanted to bring light to Pizzagate he wouldn't have done it in the way that fed into the medias agenda of shutting down fake news.. I'm sorry if I came off as offensive, but you stretched way too far to connect things that would only make sense to someone who wanted to save Spez's skin.

I thought they were using Postgres, not a NoSQL database. In either case, databases usually keep some sort of transaction or event log which could theoretically be audited for any sort of data changes, but even that could be tampered with.

It seems you are right; I thought they used exclusively Cassandra already but after verification it looks like they're only slowly moving from Postgres. You are also right about the event log, although by default it's disabled, and I doubt they could've enabled a full event log with such volume. The event log entries to my knowledge however are never signed. And even if they were of course that signing could also be tampered with since the private key would be accessible by the db software (and thus by a hacker/root on the db platform) and because all software can always be tampered with i.e. no software can absolutely vouch for its own integrity (even when running on "root of trust" secure hardware). So the points holds: admins can (and do) tamper with databases. Thank you for allowing these clarifications.

Dude it's so obvious that you're spez lol

well i take that as a great compliment (but he would've known about cassandra/postgres and wouldn't have made the mistake i just admitted to above so think about that :) )

By the way, is there any way to get the old Truecrypt that worked, or a new product like it?

Yes of course, the last version (7.1a) is still safe to use, and can be found in many different places. For example here. The only thing is the full-disk-encryption on Windows versions > 7 (or with safeboot/UEFI) will not work.

There have been several forks, like VeraCrypt. I still use the version 7.1a though, as I have LUKS under Linux for full partition encryption and I use TC only for the secure containers under Windows.

He's not one of the good guys.

He did this for the exact opposite reason (the more likely reason.) The spotlight was too close for comfort so he purged the validity of the entire community to protect him and his creep friends.

Anyone discussing child porn or trafficking, even blatantly, could claim their words were edited.

He can claim anything he said in the past was wrongfully edited by a deranged admin.

He's trying hard not to be @jack in the event the pizzagate bomb drops. Don't trust these people.

And another thought, making this a big deal in the press now will cause a domino effect of database hysteria, which will put every social network and email server in question. If there's even a slim chance that an admin could edit an email or a tweet, the entire case goes out the window.

Biggest coverup of all time, and super easy to explain.

I agree. That's great news. Anything written on social media may henceforth have been tampered with by the admins. Of course that has always been the case. But know it's common knowledge. I can only be grateful for that.

I want to believe. I DO believe.

You understand the gravity of the massive fireball you just put out there, correct? You have lost the trust of (at least) thousands of users of this website. You have literally, in that petty act, destroyed the credibility of Reddit. Any article that quotes a user post, uncredible. For all people know here, we are all now in danger of the admins throwing child porn into one of our histories, and endangering us. This was a massive mistake. This is your career, and you put your emotions into making this massive mistake.

yea gl to the court proofing it was u that made that post ( or uploaded CP ) whit the bomb shell of an argument.
The mods hated me so they set me up.
And they have done it be-four.

If what you say is true (i believe your a spez cock sucker) then bring back /r/pizzagate but then the blade cuts both ways now (your still a spez ass licker) what he has done has ruined all the work that the pizzagate crew has done. Which leaves us with.....your a fraud and a spez boot licker, and peddit is run by a goof who can code real good but has skin thinner then your moms diaphragm its ony a shame she didn't abort you.

no fortunately the whole sub was archived and the work is continuing on voat as we speak. The only thing it did is massive publicity (zerohedge, rt, many others) and made us more determined and more resilient. See my posting on /r/AskAnAdmin right after the ban if u really think what u said about me https://np.reddit.com/r/AskAnAdmin/comments/5eefax/i_have_a_lifeanddeath_question_for_reddit_admins/

i like to believe he was maybe behind the mysterious benefactor who arrived on the sub 1 hour before ban, said he'd run his bot for us, and shortly after delivered it in full on voat. i had myself been trying to run prawn, but i had no previously setup oath2, got there too late, so couldn't do it in time. if it's not him it's maybe another employee/admin (not because of my post) because he didn't seem concerned by the throttle in reddit's api (he downloaded the whole thing extremely fast)

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can we please ban this fucking bot already!

I think OP is trying to say u/spez is just one cog (a little one albeit) in a massive amount of cogs and connections. What u/spez did might not have been a choice at all but only a guarantee of safety for him or his family/friends. If he tried to resist, r/pizzagate would have still been banned.

He could have never mention how he was the one who edited that users comment and could have blamed it on malware or mirroring/backup/synchronization malfunction or anything else and the sheep would have ate it up but he didn't.

There is more to this and fuck is it confusing trying to figure out...

you are right. with gag order & national security letter he could not even have said he received a letter/visit from the government, even without mentionning the reason. that's exactly what they did with lavabit. you have to cooperate and do what we say or we'll put you in jail, and you can't say we spoke to you or we'll put you in jail. no exaggeration. spez would have burned the whole thing down if he could, that was the best he could do to say reddit is henceforth compromised, without risking too much.

So what happens if people stop complying with the gag orders and start going to jail?

Actually, they were given a warning that it was about to be shut down. They were literally given time to back up EVERYTHING, and they did. The OP is a stretch, but the /r/pizzagate shutdown isn't exactly the best counterevidence of the OP's claim.

Dude, have you ever seen Eyes Wide Shut? These people will kill you without a moment's hesitation.

Being in the public spotlight with a gun to your head -- you have limited options.

Fuck /u/spez ; )

And twitter is banning people that were reporting CP on twitter.

No because Primus actually sucks