New hit piece against PizzaGate from Bloomberg
121 2016-11-27 by [deleted]
Once again utterly fails to mention any of the relevant information:
https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2016-11-23/a-fake-pizzagate-conspiracy-for-our-fevered-age
This is getting curiouser and curiouser. I assumed that by now they would have come up with some sort of cover story, but it's the same nonsense about "alt right" "white nationalists" etc. They don't even mention James' Instagram, which is basically what got everyone interested in the first place.
I guess it might be difficult to ask Alefantis and his pals why they were writing things like "hotard" about little kids.
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31 bittermanscolon 2016-11-27
Im convinced. This is one of those topics that literally could not be if it were not so full of little bits of connecting infomation, from pizza places to symbols used. There is no way all of these things would exist with the connection of emails and code words used.......all of that cannot have happened out of chance. These people didnt come up with code words for things just for a lark! It has a purpose. Its real.
The reason why people find it hugely difficult to make that connection is, we live inthe opposite world. Pedo shit is not cool in our world. We dont think twice about it.
Their world is different it seems. They are protected and they can hide it all and keep hidden behind plausible deniablity. A perfect setup for people in "our" world to pass it off as nothing at all.....an outright impossibility.
14 ichoosejif 2016-11-27
Hiding in people's denial. Reliable denial is no longer reliabile. People are waking up.
9 bernitallup 2016-11-27
I read a thread on r/politics about the WaPo article calling pizzagate "fake news" and the denial and ignorance from fellow redditors is astounding. The entire comment section was people laughing it off as insane and saying pizzagaters don't employ critical thinking. I understand and absolutely advocate skepticism, but the flat out vitriol and inane insistence on interpreting the emails as "normal, duh, they're talking about playing dominoes while eating cheese you fucking loon" type of atmosphere in that thread was so ridiculous i couldn't believe what i was reading. Pedophilia and extreme corruption in high levels of government is by no means a new concept, and there are enough strange coincidences to raise red flags, and yet the deniers think they're being the rational ones by refusing to believe it could be happening in the US. At the very least, it's obvious the emails use words out of context, much like people do when speaking in code. But the (shills?) refuse to even concede that and brush it all off as nonsense that people "fabricate to fit what they already believe."
Still, i think you're right. More and more people are waking up despite the cries of "crazy fake news!" and the MSM and the corporations behind them are noticeably getting agitated. We're brushing up too closely against some sinister truth.
5 joemodz21 2016-11-27
This story is destroying paradigms.
Alienation and disgust is all I feel towards those redditors who are so obviously misguided.
And now, everyone is throwing around the term 'Fake News' as though they've been doing it all their life with no hint of irony.
It's so fucking disturbing.
2 ichoosejif 2016-11-27
I made a meme on Dark Knight joker, with the caption "false allegations said every pedo ever"
3 DeletesAccounts0ften 2016-11-27
I think what first raised red flags on 4chan were the "code words" that they use in the e-mails, have been regularly used by pedophiles on 4chan for years. It was surreal to see these powerful people using the same slang terms in the same shady ways pedophiles did back before 4chan was FBI owned.
1 Chipzzz 2016-11-27
If you tell a big enough lie, everyone will believe it. No one, they assume, would tell such a preposterous lie, so it must be true. Conversely, who could imagine such hideous behavior occurring in that citadel of virtue, Washington, D.C.
2 bittermanscolon 2016-11-27
That all helps, but we live in a media driven world. It is no longer about telling the public about critical issues like this. They say what they're paid to say to the public.
So, I believe that when we hear that the public "doesn't care" or is apathetic or whatever allows people to ignore it, it's not the real truth. It's not representative of actual people and their thoughts. They cannot have the ear of the people when reporting on things immediately after.
I believe a large portion of the media message is entirely backwards and we believe it because once upon a time, the media may have stood up for the little guy. There once was investigative journalism. There once was a force to speak truth to power, but that's long gone now.
It's time for something new. The internet allows us to do this on our own and I think we need to step into bigger shoes and make it happen.
1 Chipzzz 2016-11-27
Noam Chomsky has written significantly on the subject. I think you'd like his work.
1 bittermanscolon 2016-11-27
I understand his positions.
24 queezey 2016-11-27
Notice how the author "Margaret Carlson" has posted other articles on Bloomberg. None of them are investigative journalism, or really anything beyond punditry and opinion.
This is "fake news" of the lowest form.
24 djklbd 2016-11-27
This shit is absolutely real. I'm convinced now. Why else would all these prominent media outlets be attacking us and pushing the "fake news" narrative in unison together?
2 YouandWhoseArmy 2016-11-27
This is a public relations campaign essentially (id say the only difference between PR and propaganda is disclosure).
Very common with lots of things. If you know what to look for someone like Jeb bush gets labeled low energy and then across multiple media outlets you get stories countering that with similar talking points?
I once posted on KIA that gamer gate was stupid cause that kind of bullshit is all over the media in things way more consequential than video games and that there energy would be spent better realizing that. Downvoted quite hard.
20 thebabyseagull 2016-11-27
Have any of the articles by the MMS addressed the Instagram pictures?
Have any MMS articles addressed the code words?
Have any articles addressed the pervy art?
Have any of the articles provided evidence of the well-being of the children pictured?
Have any of MMS articles provided an alibi for podesta at the time of the McCann disappearance?
A lot of this could be cleared up if these issues were addressed satisfactorily.
The fact that haven't speaks volumes.
12 fat_osvaldo 2016-11-27
They're not, because they don't want to draw attention to those, which would blow the whole story open in the GP. People would see the Insta posts & pervy art and immediately have tons of questions like we all did.
-4 bigtimedime 2016-11-27
They don't address it because its just speculation, rumours and overactive imaginations. The 'code words' are invention not fact or evidence of any kind. What serious hard evidence or 'proof' does the "instagram pictures" show? The art night look weird or odd but again .... Doesn't count as evidence. Media not addressing speculation doesn't count as evidence.
13 Beneficial1 2016-11-27
All the media does is speculate. Hours each day to commentary and speculation. Don't forget we went after Saddam after 9/11 on pure speculation.
But somehow they aren't speculating on pizza gate.
1 magictron 2016-11-27
It shows that they use nudity to advertise (employees' risque instagram pics with invitations to "cum over.")
1 Mod_Impersonator 2016-11-27
Then why are they bringing it up at all if they won't even mention the reasons people are suspicious? Just because it's speculation doesn't mean they shouldn't point to those speculations as the source of the controversy.
1 thebabyseagull 2016-11-27
It doesn't count as evidence but it does nothing to end the speculation, which I assume is what they want.
8 babaroga73 2016-11-27
I guess the most powerful media in the world toik a stand to defend a pizza place, is just because - they really like their pizza?
2 perfect_pickles 2016-11-27
they are defending cheese pizza lovers, perverts of the worst kind.
now we know that people at the top of the NYT are cheese pizza lovers.
1 LarryHolmes 2016-11-27
They are counting on the ostriches among us to do their ostrich move and stick their head in the sand, the sheep among us to do their sheep thing and listen to every word the media says and take it as gospel, and that the rest of us left will not be a majority to oppose their silencing truth by shouting it down as fake news. In a normal situation, they'd be right. There are not enough of us to put up a fight.
This situation seems different to me though, because of FBI Anon basically foreshadowing all of this, and the whole counter-coup stuff leading up to the election and the email leaks coming from not Russia, but within the government, and how things keep leaking out. It tells me that we are being led on this investigation by people who want to make sure this gets out in the open, and they have the impression that they can win the fight. I am obviously very much hoping they are correct.
1 babaroga73 2016-11-27
This is the most insightfull article I've read since FBI Anon , it's a long read , but explains almost everything http://www.veteranstoday.com/2014/12/20/very-very-bad-things/
6 News_Bot 2016-11-27
Remember that the mass media claimed Smedley Butler's claims of a fascist coup were a hoax. Then the government said it wasn't.
Spin, spin, spin.
5 clovize 2016-11-27
Time to start a boycott movement against these media criminals. #TakedownCNN #BlackoutCNN
http://www.newnationalist.net/2016/11/26/join-takedowncnn-blackoutcnn-support-veritasmedia/
5 democracystrikesback 2016-11-27
guys, what does snopes say? guys?
2 perfect_pickles 2016-11-27
Snopes and cheese pizza, well they were at the DNC convention, we got a glimpse of both of them in the street on video.
2 LarryHolmes 2016-11-27
Snopes says 'go back to sleep'.
4 danimir 2016-11-27
Compare to this
5 magictron 2016-11-27
Maybe they didnt say that, or they werent there to begin with.
3 TheGuyAboveMeEatsPoo 2016-11-27
I mean if the msm is trying to bury this, then it's pretty much a goal deal of approval that were right.
2 DukeLeto2 2016-11-27
Wow. Even the comments section is slid to holy hell! Way off course and chest beating.
2 Sorry_that_im_an_ass 2016-11-27
Everyone buy post-it notes. #pizzagate post-its EVERYWHERE.
2 blueweed908 2016-11-27
These are the same channels that demonize Putin and Trump. Tells you lots....
2 gavy101 2016-11-27
It is interesting to me, that on Reddit the people denouncing this pizzagate scandal are by and large Hillary Clinton supporters, who are also pro mainstream media, who also happen to participate in the most vile subreddits, /r/TopMindsOfReddit, for instance.
1 nut_conspiracy_nut 2016-11-27
People leaving comments aren't having it though.
1 perfect_pickles 2016-11-27
so Bloomberg is partial to cheese pizza !?
2 YouandWhoseArmy 2016-11-27
This is a public relations campaign essentially (id say the only difference between PR and propaganda is disclosure).
Very common with lots of things. If you know what to look for someone like Jeb bush gets labeled low energy and then across multiple media outlets you get stories countering that with similar talking points?
I once posted on KIA that gamer gate was stupid cause that kind of bullshit is all over the media in things way more consequential than video games and that there energy would be spent better realizing that. Downvoted quite hard.