The Vatican is not only the biggest international arms dealer, they're also the largest child sex slave dealer and always have been. For some reason no one ever finds it weird that the Vatican allows their pedophile priests to keep on priesting long after they've been outed as pedophiles. The Vatican actively does everything it can to silence accusers by killing them, paying them, making them disappear, you name it.

James Achilles (Rome) Alefantis. The Jesuit Podesta brothers (search Podesta WikiLeaks for "Malta" and "Jesuit"). The hundreds of child trafficking "preventative" organizations run by the jesuits/knights of Malta/hospitallers giving them extremely easy access to victims and infinite cover up potential.

Yeah, the shit is fucked and the list goes on and on but I firmly believe the Clinton Foundation is a front company for the Vatican's children/arms dealing and The Black Pope + Francis are directly in the center of it.

To add more to this: the jesuits/knights of Malta/hospitallers have some "anti-child trafficking" operations in Haiti and they were in Haiti at the same time the Clinton Foundation was there. Willing to bet all my vital organs the kids were abducted and sold through the CF and the laundered money was split through the Jesuit/catholic charities in Haiti with all proceeds going to The World Bank, AKA the Vatican.

Reality is weirder than fiction.

Indeed, Princess of Drug Tacos, indeed.

tight.

tight tight tight.

Reality, is just a collective hunch ;)

I think Francis is the first Jesuit Pope too.

Yep! He's been implicated in child trafficking and murder amongst many other things. I don't know why it took them this long to put a Jesuit pope in but that's a scary thing, considering how often Francis is shoved down our throats

Isn't there a prophesy or some shit about the Black Pope bringing about the end of the world?

Probably. But to go along with the reality is stranger than fiction bit, the Jesuit oath is scarier than any prophecy I can think of.

Looks like a manual for organizing coup d'etats.

That's exactly what it is

Why do i feel like they may be one of the abominations referred to in the book of Revelations

Never read the Bible but if that's in your line of belief, I can see why you would think that. They very well could be! The Vatican is some extremely evil stuff.

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How could you ever say that about this face?

Palpatine

Wrong pope.

That is Benedict--satan worshipers, all of them.

yep

*Mother of Harlots

Fuck. I just want this to end. When will it hit critical mass already?FUCK!

Once the rest of the world wakes up.

Dont forget the Opus Dei.

Seventh-Day Adventists have a prophecy concerning Jesuits and the pope. I am a Seventh-Day Adventist but I don't know much about the prophecy myself because i haven't studied it in depth. We look closely at Daniel and Revelation. Check out Amazing facts for the prophecies

That gives us absolutely nothing. Can you do some research and explain what you find yourself?

Adventists consider themselves a movement that continues the protestant reformation. Mainstream evangelicals and other branches of Christianity rarely, if ever, teach that the pope/papacy is the antichrist anymore. That belief was popular throughout most of the reformation. It's rarely preached anymore, but Adventists still preach it. You can find a bunch of studies on it online. Here's one site that pretty much covers the majority of the prophecies in depth.

Another interesting thing is there Sabbath is on Saturday, as that is that last day or week. Sunday being the first day is sacreligious because it Sun Worship, a trick the devil played to get people to unknowingly worship him. At least that's what I've heard.

That's fascinating. This all ties in with the Gnostic beliefs, which held that God in the Old Testament is actually the demiurge, essentially Satin in disguise. That explains why Old Testament God is obsessed with worshiping him, setting strict rules and regulations on human pleasure, and ultimately limiting true spiritual growth through his regressive practices of false worship.

I'm glad you have some new information to look into now. :)

I'm pretty sure it's Saturn.

The way I see it: the romans wrote the new testament to split the jesuits in half. The "eye for an eye" shit was too much trouble so they created a behavior manual that instructed them to now "turn the other cheek" so that way they would be much easier to control. Religious doctrines are behavior manuals.

The apostles made it Sunday as the day the Lord rose from the dead.

So where in the Bible does it say God made the change?

Check this out it explains better than I can http://www.catholic.com/tracts/sabbath-or-sunday

The verses that site provides are completely taken out of context. Have you read them yourself? Why don't you read Luke 23:56? You'll see that right after Jesus' death they still kept the sabbath. Did you know the sabbath is the 4th commandment written by the finger of God according to Exodus? I don't think it was meant to be changed. Jesus even kept the Sabbath and called himself "Lord of the sabbath". In a way, Jesus "rested" on the sabbath in his death and then resurrected on Sunday.

Study the early church fathers (those who studied with the apostles) for better clarity

Nowhere. The reason He rose on Sunday is because he was resting on the Sabbath. But there is no scriptural advisement to change the Sabbath. It was created before the fall, and the Catholic Church takes full responsibility for changing it.

It doesn't. In fact the Ten Commandments state, "Remember the Sabbath. Keep it holy."

Interesting.

Catholic masses sometimes happen on Saturday nights^{butit'smythologyinmyview.}

The sun is Satan?

Not sure. That's what the guy in the interview I watched said. https://youtu.be/Ird-BKuPRlw

I was just stating above what people were commenting about jesuits and the pope, they were saying there might be a prophecy, and i was letting them know yes there is a prophecy. I will start learning it myself. You can study it too if you want to see if its true or debunk it.

I can dig up the info and walk you through it if there is some interest.

the dude hacksaw ridge is based on was seventh day adventist... I think we know who's side god is on.

have you seen that movie, does the character talk about what 7th day Adventism is much, how it'd different from Catholicism? Just wondering if Mel is trying to send us a message.

It's a fantastic movie and the characters entire being is based on his faith. It does show how the others in his unit are also christians but their faith doesn't stop them from harassing and hurting the main character for his beliefs (he refuses to cary a weapon and saves 200+ men wounded in action). In the end the other characters refuse to go into combat without him. Nothing specific against catholics. Mel is part of the Old Catholic church strongly apposed to modern catholocism

75+ men. His medal of honor cites he saved 75 men but his commanding officer said he saved around 100.

Desmond Doss. His documentary is even better than the movie cuz the movie doesnt show some parts right.

https://youtu.be/4E3reiJYFpw

They think the pope runs the show, and is the beast of Revelation. They believe SDAs are the "remnant" people spoken of on the Bible and Christ will return to destroy the Catholic Church.

We are not saying Adventists are the only Remnant. The Remnant are people who believe in Jesus Christ and his death and resurrection and obey the commandments of God. Many who are not Adventists are the Remnant. Christ will return as he said he would and bring those who follow Him to Heaven and those who followed their own selfish wills will be forever be dead and not in a eternal torment unlike how many christians believe

The remnant follow the sabbath. You're one of the few; you left that part out. The whole bit about the papacy changing the sabbath and SDA following sabbath is an identifying feature. Christ is conducting the investigative judgment right now right? All a load of bullshit regardless.

Other christians from other denominations also follow the Sabbath. Many are starting to realize it and they worship accordingly to what God has said. Yet they do not change denominations. Several pastors do that at Fuller theological seminary. It seems like you don't know the investigative judgement that much because if you realize what it is, it makes sense.

2 Thessalinians 2:4 or something?

That article is most likely false as the ICLCJ or something apears to be a fake organization.

http://educate-yourself.org/cn/kevinannettnailed22oct14.shtml

^ Spot on. People aren't realizing ITCCS is nothing more than an internet blog. The ITCCS can't put out real warrants and has no connection to any court. These are essentially made up charges from a court that doesn't exist.

I don't know if it is, but evidence I've seen points to it being just a internet I-want-to-be-a-play-judge or something

Honestly, none of it adds up. I can't find any other news sources for this story. Which considering if the Pope, Queen of England, and Canadian PM were actually issued international arrest warrants immediately raises red flags. Beyond that, I can't find anything at all verifying the ITCCS is in anyway connected to an actual court, particularly an international one based in Brussels. What I am seeing though is that the ITCCS isn't even based in Brussels. That its written in Canada by a man named Kevin D. Annett, a supposed defrocked United Church of Canada priest.

Seems like BS to me

Noob here, please ELI5 what being Jesuit entails?

He's the 266th pope. Does that number have any significance?

The guy before was the first (in hundreds of years) to resign. A reason seems to be implied in part of the post.

Centro Bonó is the Jesuit from in the Dominican that even gives up to 100 children to priests to be raised as ¨sons." http://www.abreureport.com/2016/08/centro-bono-jesuit-front-pushing-for.html

I remember when they discovered the remains of 800 babies buried and hiden behind a church/home for unwed mothers in Ireland.

Even CNN reported this one.

http://www.cnn.com/2014/06/09/world/europe/ireland-bodies-tuam/

How the f*ck did I not hear about this two years!?

Because it turned out to be partly a fraud/hoax/hysteria

www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/news/monkey-cage/wp/2014/06/09/the-truth-behind-irelands-dead-babies-scandal-five-questions/

Paywall, seems to have toughened up today. I can only hope it's a hoax, not a cover-up.

I'm from Ireland and it wasn't a hoax that's for sure

You've been watching FakeNews (tm)?

speaking of Knights of Malta, Seymour Hersh said:

According to an account of the speech in Foreign Policy magazine, Hersh alleged that Gen. Stanley A. McChrystal, the retired head of the Pentagon's Joint Special Operations Command and briefly the top commander of U.S. forces in Afghanistan, was among several senior officers who are members or supporters of exclusive Roman Catholic organizations such as Opus Dei and the Knights of Malta.

Neoconservative advisers to President George W. Bush took the attitude that " 'we're gonna change mosques into cathedrals,' " Hersh, a writer for the New Yorker magazine, said in the speech. "That's an attitude that pervades, I'm here to say, a large percentage of the Joint Special Operations Command." The command is the part of the military focused on targeted missions to kill enemy leaders, primarily in Afghanistan and Iraq. Its operations are almost always secret.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2011/01/20/AR2011012006090.html

But over 3 million Christians have died in that area since the invasion?

well who killed them ISIS (which yes is CIA controlled) or directly by US army?

LOts of different groups I assume They're being heavily persecuted to the point near localized extinction.

well the bottom line is let's end the illegal wars to stop further innocents being killed

Yeah, just saying the narrative doesn't add up in a few ways.

I don't know they probably regret Christians dying but figured it's a holy war and people die in war and even more would be dead if they weren't trying to stop islam.

"this is what democracy looks like"

Freemasons are the jesuits, my friend. I'd bet that the mafia as we know it right now are primarily funded by the Vatican as well. The crime network goes very deep with these people unfortunately.

Freemasons are the jesuits

that doesn't even make sense, was the Reformation also a Catholic plot?

I should've clarified, they weren't always the freemasons but they took it over and now the freemasons are basically just another way for the Vatican to operate through another super secretive group. This is a long read but will explain most of what you need to know about the Jesuits and it covers the freemasonry bit.

haha oh no, i'm not downloading a PDF from a random in conspiracy and honestly this 'oh just read this million words of gibberish then you'll agree with me' is really starting to get on my tits - it's just asinine, it's the same answer from absolutely every person i try and debate anything with 'i can't tell you anything myself but i'm definitely right because reasons and secret sauces....'

You've started out from an absurd position, you're assuming that i know nothing about anything and thet you know everything about everything -- yet you're unwilling to use your knowledge to refute my arguments and are instead hiding behind a jumbled mega-document which i can be almost 100% contains barely any genuine sources and a million tons of subjective waffle taken as fact... and if i was to open it and point to one poor argument you'd say 'no it's the other arguments' and i'll point to another and you'll say 'no the other ones...' or you'll pull out an even bigger tome and say 'read that it's all in that for sure...' and then you'll have another and another and another...

it's an old and fraudulent argumentation style.

I mean what really get's me is it's always the same attitude every time, 'you must know nothing read this basic introduction full of bullshit' did it even occur to you that i might know lots about this subject and still have other opinions? that i've actually studied both groups history in depth, and their actual history supported by verifiable facts rather than suppositions from buzzword linking crackpot attention seekers.

The last person that tried to tell me some nonsense about the Jesuits didn't even know who Ignatius was! He'd never even heard o the Relations let alone seen a copy - here he was telling me that i should just believe what he has to say because he's totally sure he's got the inside scoop from a couple of youtube videos and a website with ten million adverts on it (and which also claims lizard jews from space rule the world, and sinister shadow people, and anyone else that'll get them clicks....)

Are you christian? Just curious.

`I was raised atheist by scientifically literate parents and do not currently believe in a personified deity, however through my own research and study I have come to develop a profound understanding and respect for the theological thinkers of bygone eras. I have read many works of scripture and apologetic from many faiths within and external to the christian fold, some of which i agree with and some of which i don't - to say i am a christian would be foolish, to say i am not a christian would be short sighted.

how about you, is this a holy quest for you? some battle to ensure the faith you were born into wins over all others? or are you more devout that that, are you like me a true believer in the wonder of the universe and simply want to do your duty as a thinking being to try and understand the reality which has been presented of us?

So you just don't know if you're a christian...

No quest or faith for me. Just talking crap on the wondrous universe of the Net.

I'm staying out of all the conflict and gonna go grow veges in the country. Just want to know where and when the conflicts gonna happen.

So you just don't know if you're a christian...

that's exactly not what i said, i said that either definition is incomplete - can you even define what it so to be chrsitan?

and good luck with that veggie growing, frankly i wish people who decide to abjure modern society, education and etcetera would do so without also trying to impose their baseless opinions on the rest of us but whatever, i also hope one day you'll wake up and decide to process of making the world better...

I woke up long ago and have been working to make the world a better place for 20 years or so as best I can.

Anyways if you can't really make up your mind as to whether Jesus was the son of God - the only and only true god - then you're probably not a christian in my books anyways... but yeah you can believe whatever you want to.

I'm also not swearing off modern society. I like it a lot, but cities are not healthy places to live (unless you're wealthy).

Anyways if you can't really make up your mind as to whether Jesus was the son of God

honestly i should just smash my face into the keyboard you'd probably respond to it the same, this is nothing like what i said - i clearly said a couple of posts ago that i do not believe in 'god' i then went on to say that it's a far more complex question than can be summed up in such a simplistic answer though, but apparently not for, simplistic is exactly what you're after.

but is this it, you've reached the end of your line? you've expended all your reasons for continuing to try and push pizzagate and now you're just dragging your toes and saying nothing?

Why not spend your time trying to do something good for society if that's what you want to do? help work on systems that are making a genuine difference in the world, don't waste your time trying to spread nonsense even you don't believe.

U trippin. Don't know how you can be Christian without believing in God unless you're changing the definition.

I spend all day doing something good for society. It's my job. In my spare time I am working on a decentralised peer to peer voting system to make our current system obsolete.

Anyways i hope you have a nice day.

Don't know how you can be Christian without believing in God unless you're changing the definition.

you really aren't listening to a single thing i say are you?

well very good, well done and carry on - i don't know what any of this has to do with you pushing unverified and absurd allegations about people though... and i'm even more perplexed as to why you think i or anyone else should believe the allegations you're making....

all religions are made up by the rich including christianity

Dude your linked article about the Vatican being involved in arms dealing is a REJECTION of that story. Did you read it?

Good catch, fixed it. That's what I get for making these large posts on my phone! Sorry about that

Oh sweet :)

you aren't wrong though, as far as i understand it. now figure out the saudi connection...

Georgetown University Alumni

Along with nearly everyone on Trump's current team. It's cute when they hide in plain sight.

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The Exorcist was filmed and based there.

what's the best evidence that they're arm dealing? interesting stuff

I wish I could upvote you 10 times.

LISTEN THOUGH

It's very important that we stick to facts, and we don't stigmatize an entire culture, because that will turn into a he-said/she-said morass of bullshit.

We need to stay CALM. We need to reference GOOD SOURCES. We need to ensure that we stay unemotional, because that is the way that evidence and interrogation becomes derailed: if you make it personal and emotional.

It's very easy to be emotional in the face of the atrocities that we are discovering. It's much harder to stay tough, to stay neutral, and to present facts in as much of an unbiased way as we can.

This is probably one of the most important issues of the 21st century and it's getting no coverage at all. WE are the journalists. And a journalist's prerogative has to be presenting facts in a manner that is defensible and strong. Emotional outbursts do nothing but hurt us.

I absolutely see what people are talking about. And that's why I made this post. It is a tough decision to remain calm in the storm. But that is our only option. One emotional outburst will invalidate the research and truth of someone else.

It is extremely important, at this PARTICULAR point in HISTORY, to be both vigilant and RATIONAL. There's never been an internet before. We are at an inflection point. If we allow ourselves to become overly emotional, it will completely deflate the facts and research that so many of us have worked on.

I love all you guys. I know I'm just a talker among many talkers. But this is really important shit that we are dealing with. Like I said, this is an inflection point the likes of which we have never seen, because we can all communicate with relative freedom. It's very possible that if we cannot convert on that freedom, we might never see it again.

I love all you guys.

EDIT: I want to make it very clear that I'm not attacking anyone in this forum with this post. In general, I think you guys are pretty fucking on top of it, including OP and the person I replied to

But we are at a turning point, and each one of you are way more important than many think you are, possibly including yourselves. We need to have a major obligation to humanity to do the right things, right now.

And before I get a ton of questions, yeah, I'm talking about Rome, and I'm talking about Pizza, and I'm talking about the very likely scenario that we have worked out, which makes an awful lot of sense in light of recent history. That is the key to everything: trapping someone powerful in a perverted web, and then using that as a brute-force blackmail technique to exert control.

EDIT 2: I reposted this as an original post. Please reply there rather than in this thread.

You're spot on.

Thank you. If you have anything to add, please do. The more this thread grows, the more awareness.

Probably caused the earthquake in the first place too to further traumatize the haitian jews that were scattered from the 12 tribes via the slave trade.

For some reason no one ever finds it weird that the Vatican allows their pedophile priests to keep on priesting long after they've been outed as pedophiles.

It's simple, really. Since the Vatican II council, numbers of vocations have collapsed, and they can't afford to lose priests. That's why they keep on getting a free pass.

David Icke was right all along.

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I am not OP but yes OP is still alive :)

I wonder since when this is the case... I hope that the Polish Pope wasn't involved in all of this.

Well... At the same time this is frequently used by leftists to denounce the church. I wished this to be a red herring but it is highly likely that this is true. At least I hope that Pope John paul II has nothing to do with this.

It's not a left-right issue. The Vatican rules the world and always has. The United States, Israel, and London are all corporations that are owned by the larger corporation, The Vatican.

Hrm... But why would they allow Muslims to sweep over Europe? And let the media denounce them all the time?

Also one of the biggest pushers is jewish, not christian, so this could exclude the Vatican... (Soros)

Most of the time the Vatican ruled Europe to some extend, so I don't know, but to me it seems a little bit far-fetched.

Vatican funds both the Jews and the Muslims. Some would argue they created both religions. They have artificially manufactured a religious divide in the Middle East because they profit immensely off both sides and no matter who wins, the Vatican ultimately wins. Everything always ends with "democracy" AKA the world bank being installed in the loser's country. The Vatican is the world bank.

Soros is a hack and doesn't have any true power over anything. You'd be better off forgetting that name. No one with as much power as the_donald thinks Soros has would ever be as public as that man is. When your boogeyman is giving interviews on 60 Minutes, you fell for it. You got duped. Soros is a distraction from the people that really rule the world.

Well... We will see the results. Keep on the good work, uncovering this nasty shit.

Also if I was told this 3 years ago... I would have immediately dismissed all of these things... God damn, were I ignorant of this. But shit like the 8 goddesses in South Korea and SpiritCooking have made me believe, that there is much much more behind these things.

Let's hope all of this gets finally uncovered and ended. Although I am still not convinced of the church being in charge of everything. There must be other factors.

1. They practice ritual cannibalism every week! Some say it's just symbolic cannibalism—as if that's okay—but officially it's real! They use occult black magic to change the wine and wafers into blood and human flesh! Right out in the open! With children not only present, but participating!
   
2. They are so powerful that, in most places, there's an exemption written into the law to allow them to serve alcohol to minors.
   
3. The totem of their religion is a guy being slowly tortured to death! Even though they claim to be a family-friendly place, they have statues of the execution up on their walls in full view of any children. Followers of the religion very often carry miniature copies of the torture device with them!
   
4. One of the most holy figures in their religion is a guy who heard a voice telling him to kill his own child and he was ready to do it—until the voice said "just kidding!" Haha! So funny! Sick bastards.
   
5. A favorite story they tell children is when their "god" killed everybody on the fucking planet except for one family and some animals they had on a boat. It's a children's story because—get this—it has animals! Whoa, man, some animals survived, hurray! Fortunately, they usually don't tell the children about the later part of the story where the boat guy's daughters got him drunk and raped him! That's in their holy book!
   
6. One of the things that's required in their religion is telling their ministers all the bad things you did. And they promise not to tell the police! Blackmail, anyone?
   
7. They only allow men to become ministers! And only single men. Why is that? They don't want any men who have normal feelings about women and children! If you don't have children of your own to protect and you're sex-starved, what's the next obvious step? And why do they study in seminaries? That's from the same root as semen!
   

eight) cutting off pieces of penis. nothing shady there at all

nine) they are also responsible for the false foundation that our current historical understanding is based on... what could go wrong?!?!

1000 fabricated years,

that last one about the thousand fabricated years is awesomely dumb, love the thought that Shakespeare died writing a date 1000 years after the dates he'd been wring in his youth - because like he wrote historical dramas. Also it'd be confusing surely for sailors that routinely worked between Spain and England, it was hard enough being two weeks but nipping over there and them being like 'hu? no it's still the sixth century here, what are you talking about one thousand five hundred and nine, you're mad!'

However the real reason it's laughable is because almost nothing back then actually uses the current date system, for example look at the year this book was published it's MDCCCXL that's roman numerals for 1840,

also there's like, all of history...

honestly though, why do people make such absurd videos? is it just for the clicks or is it some form of, i dunno?!

that last one about the thousand fabricated years is awesomely dumb, love the thought that Shakespeare died writing a date 1000 years after the dates he'd been wring in his youth - because like he wrote historical dramas. Also it'd be confusing surely for sailors that routinely worked between Spain and England, it was hard enough being two weeks but nipping over there and them being like 'hu? no it's still the sixth century here, what are you talking about one thousand five hundred and nine, you're mad!' However the real reason it's laughable is because almost nothing back then actually uses the current date system, for example look at the year this book was published it's MDCCCXL that's roman numerals for 1840, also there's like, all of history... honestly though, why do people make such absurd videos? is it just for the clicks or is it some form of, i dunno?!

How is it possible for someone to type so much, and yet say absolutely nothing?

like i'm trying my hardest to find one original thought in that mess to respond to

need bullet points?

• Shakespeare was alive during the transition to the Gregorian Calendar, the levels of education and awareness were not as low as suggested in the video.
  
• Spain a close trading partner of England changed their dates at different point in history, thus making a thousand year leap hugely obvious to the sailors and traders who worked between both nations.
• the '1998' date format is not the date system commonly used in the era being discussed, they used roman numerals which would not be susceptible to this error also longform dates have always been very common on legal documents.
• all of history, for example Chinese and Indian history which spans two thousand years since events associated with the first century, for example the believe the mongols happened at the same period we do which would make no sense if we'd moved them back a thousand years...
  

so i'll be interested to see you refute these arguments,

thats better!

Shakespeare was alive during the transition to the Gregorian Calendar, the levels of education and awareness were not as low as suggested in the video.

Shakespeare wasn't 1 man. It was in fact multiple aristocrats producing works under one pseudonym for the expressed purpose of disseminating free thought. I don't know why that's such a tricky one for people to get their head around but it is indeed the most plausible explanation.

Spain a close trading partner of England changed their dates at different point in history, thus making a thousand year leap hugely obvious to the sailors and traders who worked between both nations.

You are forgetting that the opinion of some nobody fishmonger isn't going to impact our understanding at all today. Historians lament the fact that we have very little by the way of first hand accounts from people who were not of the upper echelons of society for the vast majority of our recent history.

the '1998' date format is not the date system commonly used in the era being discussed, they used roman numerals which would not be susceptible to this error also longform dates have always been very common on legal documents.

I don't think you fully understand autocracy. Dictators will do some pretty fucked up shit to hide the truth. I would be interested in seeing any primary documents you have showing the use of roman numeral dispelling this once and for all. I couldn't find anything supporting the claim that they were primarily used. I also couldn't find any primary legal documents but please share of you find some.

all of history, for example Chinese and Indian history which spans two thousand years since events associated with the first century, for example the believe the mongols happened at the same period we do which would make no sense if we'd moved them back a thousand years...

You're forgetting again the importance the British aristocracy had in interpreting the so called Chinese and especially indian history for an english and ultimately global audience. It's not like the British cared to ask the sick and the starving what they remember about their past.

On top of that the true story of the mongols is very much not how you think it was. The story of the mongols is in fact just a branch of what was once the largest empire at the time but is now largely forgotten. Look on any old maps form before 1700 and you will find a vast swath of land labeled as Grand Tartaria stretching from Germany to japan and in some cases north america.

It's no secret that the earliest depictions of the Genghis Khan (which by the way simply translates to great or universal ruler) they describe him as tall and pale with red hair and green eyes

And this is just the very tip of the iceberg.

It was in fact multiple aristocrats producing works under one pseudonym

oh now you're just being stupid, this proves you know nothing about Shakespeare, it's just an load of old nonsense invented by snooty academics who didn't like the fact a commoner was better than them, and actually the real truth is a lot of his greatest turns of phrase weren't his at all but well established saying known to the lower classes, for example 'Every dog shall have his day' was actually said first by the then more now less famous Will of the Elizabethan stage Will Kemp in his nine dayies wonder, it's not aristocrats is's the language of it's age - hence why Shakespeare talks of and describes ,many things that Bacon, Spenser, and etc didn't know... honestly if you can't tell the style and frame of Bacon from Shakespeare then you really are quite mad.

You are forgetting that the opinion of some nobody fishmonger isn't going to impact our understanding at all today.

but we were talking about why they accepted it then, why is there no point when people suddenly start to be confused which century they're in? i mean i know you probably haven't seen any of it but the histories of the last 2000 years are really quiet extensive especially era around Henry and Liz, we have pronominal amounts of archival evidence of everyday life in that period and absolutely none of it even once comes close to suggesting that they've invented a thousand years .

I would be interested in seeing any primary documents you have showing the use of roman numeral dispelling this once and for all.

you must i presume be an American, come to Europe not only do we have roman and latin numerals carved into stone all over the place but the British Library has an extensive collection of manuscripts covering pretty much the whole range of years...

I couldn't find anything supporting the claim that they were primarily used.

wai- you actually had to look up if roman numerals are commonly used in old documents and things? do you really know so little about the world? have you never even noticed them on films? that's a tradition which goes all the way back to before the printing press was a thing - i mean honestly, i just linked you to a repository of old books, try and find some Elizabethan manuscripts that don't have the publishing date in roman, you might be shocked how hard it is...

the British aristocracy had in interpreting the so called Chinese and especially

no i mean, like before we got there - when Marco Polo turned up he didn't say 'oh by the way, gotta wind your clock forward a bit, we're skipping a thousand years, no don't ask why it's silly really...'

you seem to be totally underestimating how much history there is in places that aren't Europe...

On top of that the true story of the mongols is very much not how you think it was.

you have no idea what i think the history of the mongols was, stop trying to do that stupid 'you'd agree if only you knew as much as me' thing it's silly because you clearly don't really know anything about this, you didn't even know that roman numerals are common in old books and statues - it's like you've never even been in a single museum - but you're speaking as if you and only you know the truth that everyone else has missed?! surely you can see how absurd that is?

i mean seriously you're telling me than Khan means great ruler as if it's a revelation, ffs i've read the accounts of Polo's travels and know the stories of his meeting with the great Khans - that alone is enough to disprove all the absurd and nonsensical thing you're saying.

honestly why would you try and push this conspiracy? what do you get out of it? does someone pay you? is an an internet game? an ironic art movement? i don't get it? why are you so keen to push absolute nonsense?

Thanks for this. Their no response is heartwarming. I know you didn't change their view, but the ignorant part of me would like to think you did.

haha thanks, but yeah it's odd isn't it - i mean what is the impulse to create such a totally absurd theory? the person who invented it obviously knew a bit about history to be able to tie all the nonsense together but is overlooking the fact that in most of the world you can see a clear development of technology, literature and etc which has a smooth gradient of development and at no point goes 0-500ad Romans build a wall then fuck off and everyone loiters around for a thousand years before 1500 where Shakespeare suddenly goes 'hey let's start progress again...'

I mean if you add 1 onto all years after the switch to the Gregorian calendar and claim that thousand years isn't real then you've just edited out everything from St. Augustine to Henry the VIII - heh i mean i know whitewash comes from them literally whitewashing over catholic artwork so yeah a lot of the evidence was destroyed but they didn't literally dissolve the monasteries, i mean the plotters went to quite some effort to invent a thousand years of Catholicism to fill in the gap and there are bloody loads of those things dotted around this fair isle.

Shakespeare definitely was bacon and/or his pals, that doesn't mean the rest isn't true tho

"Definite" would require actual proof.

2+2 is definitely 4.

We are definitely not alone in the universe.

One of these statements is a definite, the other is not.

would need to show proof the regular Shakespeare did it all, without that we go with occams razor.

Have you not been paying attention to recent news? even the mainstream is picking up on this. Not to mention simple logic and facts back up the alternative version of events.

heres a fun way to learn about this

absolutely absurd conspiracy theory, i presume you're well read on Shakespeare and his contemporaries? have studied the history of the era? it's not going to turn out by any chance that the last time you read any Shakespeare was in school and the best you can do in terms of Elizabethan history is that you've got a vague notion that people back then probably wore silly hats...

but i would love to hear what you think is evidence for this theory regardless,

debate is longgg over proven in like the 1800s

it really wasn't though, there's absolutely nothing in it - i mean come on, what's the evidence?

blocked for being a shill

asks you to defend bullshit claims, must be a shill!

Wait The fact that i went to bed without reading his response is heart warming?

oh now you're just being stupid, this proves you know nothing about Shakespeare, it's just an load of old nonsense invented by snooty academics who didn't like the fact a commoner was better than them, and actually the real truth is a lot of his greatest turns of phrase weren't his at all but well established saying known to the lower classes, for example 'Every dog shall have his day' was actually said first by the then more now less famous Will of the Elizabethan stage Will Kemp in his nine dayies wonder, it's not aristocrats is's the language of it's age - hence why Shakespeare talks of and describes ,many things that Bacon, Spenser, and etc didn't know... honestly if you can't tell the style and frame of Bacon from Shakespeare then you really are quite mad.

"your so stupid!" how is this an argument? Snooty academics? You mean the ones most educated and qualified to make the call? I never said it was Bacon I said it was a large group of collaborators. When you collaborate your styles change and you are able to produce things about stuff you may never have known about.

but we were talking about why they accepted it then, why is there no point when people suddenly start to be confused which century they're in? i mean i know you probably haven't seen any of it but the histories of the last 2000 years are really quiet extensive especially era around Henry and Liz, we have pronominal amounts of archival evidence of everyday life in that period and absolutely none of it even once comes close to suggesting that they've invented a thousand years .

Im glad you've vetted it all for us then. pack it in boys!

you must i presume be an American, come to Europe not only do we have roman and latin numerals carved into stone all over the place but the British Library has an extensive collection of manuscripts covering pretty much the whole range of years...

Manuscripts written by jesuit monks who's motto literally means "the ends justify the means".

wai- you actually had to look up if roman numerals are commonly used in old documents and things? do you really know so little about the world? have you never even noticed them on films? that's a tradition which goes all the way back to before the printing press was a thing - i mean honestly, i just linked you to a repository of old books, try and find some Elizabethan manuscripts that don't have the publishing date in roman, you might be shocked how hard it is...

um heres a bunch

no i mean, like before we got there - when Marco Polo turned up he didn't say 'oh by the way, gotta wind your clock forward a bit, we're skipping a thousand years, no don't ask why it's silly really...'

you seem to be having difficulty with keeping this timeline in your head. this shift away from the truth didn't get into full swing until long after marco polo. Why are you so confident you are reading marco polos original words?

you seem to be totally underestimating how much history there is in places that aren't Europe...

And much of it disagrees with the establishment. The Syriac historians will tell you jesus was a persian king of edessa named Izates bar Monobaz .

you have no idea what i think the history of the mongols was, stop trying to do that stupid 'you'd agree if only you knew as much as me' thing it's silly because you clearly don't really know anything about this, you didn't even know that roman numerals are common in old books and statues - it's like you've never even been in a single museum - but you're speaking as if you and only you know the truth that everyone else has missed?! surely you can see how absurd that is?

well if you believe it was anything like the popular netflix show you are sorely mistaken

i mean seriously you're telling me than Khan means great ruler as if it's a revelation, ffs i've read the accounts of Polo's travels and know the stories of his meeting with the great Khans - that alone is enough to disprove all the absurd and nonsensical thing you're saying.

I'm telling you its nondescript and that he was certainly no Mongolian.

honestly why would you try and push this conspiracy? what do you get out of it? does someone pay you? is an an internet game? an ironic art movement? i don't get it? why are you so keen to push absolute nonsense?

Why would people discuss conspiracy in a conspiracy form? Get out of here concern troll.

I never said it was Bacon I said it was a large group of collaborators.

which is just as absurd, i mean honestly you've obviously got no idea how much we actually know about his life and times - why are they faking this? what possible reason would a collection of aristocrats (though apparently not bacon?) have for setting up a low-grade playhouse on the south side of the river and performing bawdy dramas which most people doubt would survive a single run let alone enter into history as such significant works. this theory makes no sense, if you can then defend it using actual arguments and sensible sounding reasoning...

Snooty academics? You mean the ones most educated and qualified to make the call?

in the eighteenth century when this theory was mildly popular, you wont find a single serious historian or literary academic who believes anything other than there was a man called William Shaxspere who wrote a load of plays, some sonnets, songs, and ballads (mostly lost to the grace of history) - id you want to go with academic opinion then academic opinion is absolutely certain that shakes was the real deal.

Im glad you've vetted it all for us then. pack it in boys!

it doesn't require someone to know every single aspect of history to know there's a coherent timeline of events which would make absolutely no sense if you skip a thousand years in the middle of it - i mean honestly, do you not know anything about the era 500-1500ad, i mean that's like the entire age of faith right to the reformation, i mean really, you think all of that's made up?

Manuscripts written by jesuit monks who's motto literally means "the ends justify the means".

yes i've read Ignatius, the founder of the Society of Jesus better known as the Jesuit order, it was founded in response to the reformation - think about that for a second, in response to the reformation.... think about that. but yeah, skipping the obvious, you're telling me that old holey'shoes wrote the entire history of pre-reformation Catholicism as part of a sinister trick to insert a thousand years into the timeline for no discernible reason?

Why are you so confident you are reading marco polos original words?

do you know what source cohesion is? it's like how police know if a witness is telling lies, are there things in this book which shouldn't be there? are there not things which should? this is one of the many ways that people use to ascertain the veracity of texts, another useful one is when are the earliest references to this text and quotes from it -- people don't quote books before they're written, i mean have you any idea how hard that'd be to organise for pool ol' ig?

well if you believe it was anything like the popular netflix show you are sorely mistaken

i have literally no idea what you're talking about but find it hilarious you imagine the only source of knowledge is popular culture, that might well explain why you know basically nothing about history or how history works?

Why would people discuss conspiracy in a conspiracy form? Get out of here concern troll.

oh baby learned a buzzword! do you see a sign which says 'this place is where idots say anything they like and no one is allowed to question them'? no? then fuck off back to godlike if that's what you're after - this is a place for people who are interested in finding the truth and trying to solve some of the complex problems of the world.

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Oh yes, circumcision is a very common Catholic practice, as we all know. Almost as common as eating Halal.

looking at early Christianity it was a thing that was majorly debated.

Hillary Clinton's foundation pushed circumcision in Africa, ostensibly it prevents AIDs cuz of cutting skin off your penis definitely wouldn't help cause that or anything. part of jews taking over USA has been them tricking Christians into circumcisions.

These are all subtle ways that Christ's story and his legacy is being subverted by evil influence. There is nothing wrong with knowing and discussing human behavior and history, but some of the ways we celebrate tragedy is a bit ridiculous. Obviously the faith is under attack, but many will just use the improper practice of Christianity to dismiss the truth of the thing altogether.

Whoa.

Yeah. They also launder pedophile proceeds through catholic charities.

First time hearing about such cases, can you lead me to some sources I can read up myself, sorry?

http://www.maccabuse.org/ http://www.churchmilitant.com/news/article/catholic-charities-gets-27-million

"the Catholic Church and its charities are so ingrained in the U.S. government’s welfare system, it’s hard to reform and better it. For example, in 1996 Catholic Charities lobbied heavily against welfare-reform law and met with then-President Clinton to help derail it." From http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/sep/24/catholic-church-collects-16-billion-in-us-contract/

http://www.newmanfnd.org/grants

http://divorceinconnecticut.blogspot.com/search/label/FATHER'S%20RIGHTS%20MONEY

https://www.ncronline.org/blogs/ncr-today/following-money-white-house http://www.fatherhood.org/fatherhood/topic/catholic-charities-programs

Sure, let me grab my computer.

Charging my battery. Look up maccabuse and Catholic charities funding.

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YOU'RE THE BEST... AROUUUUND

Either here or on recently departed r.pizzagate, a commentor went at length into the Maltese cross (🜊) which is also the alchemical symbol for vinegar -- how the final sponge of vinegar (rather than water or wine) given to dying Christ on the Cross was meant as some sort of final insult. That cross was on the green owl flag that 4chan & company figured out (or generated, depending on wherever it really came from). All of which was rather similar design to these: http://imgarcade.com/1/german-iron-cross-flag

maltese cross

that's an odd theory which isn't backed by any historical documents i've ever seen, and it's going against much more reasonable and well sourced opinions;

In the 15th century, the eight points of the four arms of the later called Maltese Cross represented the eight lands of origin, or Langues of the Knights Hospitaller: Auvergne, Provence, France, Aragon, Castille and Portugal, Italy, Germany, and England (with Scotland and Ireland).[5]

The eight points also symbolize the eight obligations or aspirations of the knights:[5]

• to live in truth
  
• to have faith
  
• to repent one's sins
  
• to give proof of humility
• to love justice
  
• to be merciful
  
• to be sincere and wholehearted
  
• to endure persecution
  

Both the Order of Saint John (in German, the Johanniterorden) and the Venerable Order of St John teach that the eight points of the cross represent the eight Beatitudes. The Venerable Order's main service organisation, St John Ambulance, has applied secular meanings to the points as representing the traits of a good first aider:[6]

• Observant ("that he may note the causes and signs of injury")
  
• Tactful ("that he may without thoughtless questions learn the symptoms and history of the case, and secure the confidence of the patients and bystanders")
  
• Resourceful ("That he may use to the best advantage whatever is at hand to prevent further damage, and to assist Nature’s efforts to repair the mischief already done")
  
• Dextrous ("that he may handle a patient without causing unnecessary pain, and use appliances efficiently and neatly")
  
• Explicit ("that he may give clear instructions to the patient or the bystanders how best to assist him")
  
• Discriminating ("that he may decide which of several injuries presses most for treatment by himself, what can best be left for the patient or bystanders to do, and what should be left for the medical men")
  
• Persevering ("that he may continue his efforts, though not at first successful")
  
• Sympathetic ("that he may give real comfort and encouragement to the suffering")
  

The alchemy symbol for vinegar is not a Maltese Cross it's not even a cross pattée it's a cross with flat ends - but even if so, so what? that means absolutely nothing. There are millions of things need symbols and only so many possible symbols - they get repeated all the time, one thing looking a little bit like the other isn't proof the pope is a pizza eating pedo or whatever this over-reaching attempt at a a conspiracy theory is.

and yes the symbolism of the Arma Christi is complex and confusing, most of history is - i mean you live in a christian country, i presume you're an atheist but you're at least aware of the spear of destiny it shouldn't be too hard to understand the sponge of destiny either...

as for the wine being an insult, maybe not so much...

Posca was a popular drink in ancient Rome and Greece, made by mixing sour wine or vinegar with water and flavouring herbs. It originated in Greece as a medicinal mixture but became an everyday drink for the Roman army and the lower classes from around the 2nd century BC, continuing to be used throughout Roman history and into the Byzantine period.

This is the best part. A good combination of misinformation and flawed logic.

Finally, when I went to google translate and put in acctum, it translated from Latin to English as ACCT. All caps. Of course, I wouldn't have known acctum was vinegar from google translate, because it gives me some cryptic "ACCT" translation. Which to my mind means "Account", because I'm used to looking at HR related nonsense, as I'm sure ALL of you are used to doing as well. In fact, in today's world, ACCT always means account. It's almost like they are whistleblowing on themselves as some kind of arcane mountain nazis in some remote swiss castle server waiting to turn on the blue beams come election day. You know, so the Catholic church can roll us back to a new dark age.

he has a point, if the right answer wasn't there for him on his first google search it must be a conspiracy!

Also, give me a reason why google translates to ACCT

because language is complex, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_friend

I cross referenced 3 alchemical texts whch i believe i provided

no you didn't

The fact is (if it even is a fact) they gave him vinegar

no it's not, i already explained this to you - it doesn't mean vinegar as the same thing you think of when you think of vinegar, that's a poor translation, like what happened in your search for ACCT, the biblical scholars who write the KJV knew basically nothing about the middle east, let alone the middle east during antiquity however now we're almost half a century in the future and have science and academic history on our side we've spotted their mistake and corrected it, though for people still studying bibles from the reformation often still get confused...

I was talking about alchemy, not about catholic dogma

you were literally talking about why the pope wears a certain symbol, he wears it because of the long and detailed catholic dogma that surrounds it, not because it looks a bit like a commonly used symbol.

Also, why don't both of you try something really new: create your own material, instead of trying your level (and very discourteous) best to discredit everyone around you for a change.

ah but i do, and when i do people someone point out that i've made errors and i'm grateful for it because i'm interested in discovering the truth not in trying to look special.

. It doens't make you smart nor does it make you right

heh no those things came about because of education, study and a desire for truth.

Sorry but no you can't just invent a stupid story and try and find people credulous enough to believe you, i mean what's your end game with the false story you've cooked up? do you want peoples money? want them to respect you? want them to invite you to do speaking tours and all that business? sorry, you actually have to earn that sort of thing by actually being right, the world doesn't owe you anything - if you bring your half baked rubbish here then of course people are going to laugh at it, are going to point out the flaws and deceptions in your arguments.

It was my understanding that the soldier was not allowed to give Jesus water... So the act was still one of mercy. Or so I was taught.

ah meOW detailia!

I've always found the Vatican to be openly blasphemous too. Constantly depicting Jesus in his most physically weakened state, dying on the cross. Funny thing is they are the descendants of the ones who killed Jesus. The ritual of eating his flesh and drinking his blood is also intended to be blasphemous. Upside-down doves you will see in some of the architecture are just one of many symbols pointing to obvious, that the roots of the Vatican are spiritual negative (evil) and not positive (benevolent).

True they make a mockery of Jesus. I was raised Catholic and was always creeped out by the prominent display of a tortured Jesus on the cross. I also thought the words about eating his flesh and drinking his blood was gross. At 15, I turned against the Catholic religion.

bill hicks would say if Jesus came back for a second coming he wouldn't be cool with all the crosses we had up everywhere.

Jesus is depicted on the cross as to remember his suffering and what He did for you, for everyone. Regarding the Eucharist He is pretty clear in saying "this is my body" and had he meant it symbolically pretty sure he would have told the crowds of people that left after.

Dude thy have you pray to Saints and statues, it goes against everything the bible teaches about idolatry and worshipping other Gods.

http://edition.cnn.com/2015/03/22/living/feat-pope-pizza/

Pope Francis has said that all he wants is to go out one day to a pizzeria "without being recognized."

Notice the date this article was first published. March 22. (It was updated the day after.)

good old 322, skull and bones

That's also during one of the pagan holidays of Thelema.

genesis 3:22

And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever:

Would you mind explaining this to me? I feel dumb for not understanding, but I don't want to risk not learning because of fear.

the elites think they're gods amongst us mere mortals that's why they like the number 322.

Isn't that such a mortal thought? "They who put me on the pedestal, I am above." So silly.

it's really symbolism, they made up the bible themselves thousands of years ago, it's all symbolism. You and anyone can become a "god" if you have knowledge, knowledge is power, eating from the tree of knowledge gets you it.

Were you born a Catholic? If you don't mind me asking. This resurrected my interest in faith.

kind of, what I mean is it's complicated, my mon was raised catholic, kind of left it and didn't go to church, didn't push it on her kids, also have jewish roots which complicate things.

All holy books have been perverted by man. I'm sure God doesn't mind tolerance.

Upvoted for the use of dagum.

IMO Papa Ratzinger (Pope Benedict) did indeed oversee a coverup of all sexual abuse committed within the Church by priests;

This was done by overturning Canon 904B (which, until 1962, mandated that all violations of the sacrement of penance (raping a parioshner) had to be reported to local civil authorities), and replacing it with updated language pursuant to the doctrine of Crimen sollicitationis.

That updated doctrine mandated that all reports of priests raping their parishioners be forwarded only to the Congregation for the Doctrine of Faith, which was run by "Pope Benedict" for over 20 years before he ascended to the papacy.

Do you really connect random rapes from priests with this systematic and organized pedophile and satanist activities from the pizzag8te?

I can remember from Benedict's time that he made some noise about the 2008 bank crash and how it was handled and that he had some serious "problems" inside the Vatican with strange leaks.

The guy was a conservative intellectual which had at least a philosophical educational background if not more.

How he stepped down always looked wrong and I would not be surprised if this was organized to force him out.

About the Podesta brothers being jesuit trained. I've always wondered how Tony Podesta got to this camp nose in Japan.

https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/5bcui9/camp_nose_osaka_japan_why_were_tony_podesta_and/

Afaik the Jesuits are highly active in Japan.

That updated doctrine mandated that all reports of priests raping their parishioners be forwarded only to the Congregation for the Doctrine of Faith, which was run by "Pope Benedict" for over 20 years before he ascended to the papacy.

That goes specifically against the bible doesn't it? "Give unto Caesar what is his?"

/r/romerules

How long before that subreddit is closed?

maybe there was but they kept getting pizzagated and no one noticed? I never went to look for one because I thought masons were either good guys or not powerful enough to matter.

Yep

I wonder, is pizza used as a code word partly because it is an Italian food, that kind of symbol shows any initiates that this is rome related?

Pizza originates in napoli.

This is all bullshit.

naples, which is in Italy, great point?

doing a little research, I am suspecting it was a word that meant children before it meant the food.

The origin of the word pizza (Italian: [ˈpittsa]) is uncertain. The term "pizza" first appeared in a Latin text from the southern Italy town of Gaeta in 997 AD, which states that a tenant of certain property is to give the bishop of Gaeta duodecim pizze ("twelve pizzas") every Christmas Day, and another twelve every Easter Sunday".[1][7]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pizza

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2049647/BBC-documentary-exposes-50-year-scandal-baby-trafficking-Catholic-church-Spain.html

IIRC the Podestas were in Spain quite often according to WikiLeaks, weren't they?

Ye its not like we had some nice old man going around to rape hundreds of children and dead bodies in a western and developed country with impunity because he has ties to powerful people and are extremely popular and seen as a nice old fella and people only found out after he fucking died...

right guys? anyone who would suggest something like this must be a conspiracy theroist /s

Saville's connections go to the top. He hung out with the Royal family of England.

u/fringetheories

Man. This post right here is what I had been saying in r/pizzagate for weeks. I couldn't have possibly screamed "ALL THIS LEADS BACK TO ROME AND THE VATICAN JUST LOOK AND YOU'LL SEE IT" any louder and every time I had shills coming in going "nah man jesuits are just chill scientists and educators they're the good guys" and people of that ilk trying to discredit me. That's when you know you're right.

Ikr? I thought you were OP initially.

Yeah, so....good others....knowing evil leads one to the Vatican.

Lol, at OP verbiage.

This thread needs to be stickied for a few days. Imagine all the eyes it would open and the questions it would answer. People will get it someday.

Ask a mod to sticky. u/sovereignman?

Message the moderators. It takes at least 3 to agree to a sticky.

Done! Thanks dude, didn't know about that

The same link is in our sidebar just above the list of mods ---->

Okay, thanks.

u/djkldb

https://warningilluminati.wordpress.com/the-most-powerful-man-in-the-world-the-black-pope/

Interesting... According to Wikipedia:

The Society of Jesus on October 3, 2016 announced that Adolfo Nicolás' resignation was officially accepted and that a successor would be chosen the following week.[2][3]

His successor is Arturo Sosa

Good stuff, man. Makes a lot of sense. Great post for the tribunal story alone; can't say I've heard of that before. Way to use your brain. I feel like people are going about investigating pizzagate the wrong way. Unfortunately, I don't have any better ideas. This could be a good direction to take.

Who cares, thank you for your work.

ya know, I wonder why the movie Spotlight was so highly rated and it even won like, the best picture award in 2015. Why would they make that movie? So the Jews could show the people what happens in the catholic church circle? Or just a small unveiling of what we are to find out

Jewish version

Rabbi Nuchem Rosenberg—who is 63 with a long, graying beard—recently sat down with me to explain what he described as a “child-rape assembly line” among sects of fundamentalist Jews. He cleared his throat. “I’m going to be graphic,” he said.

I probably shouldn't read that right now... Wtf. How common is this crap?

It's inevitable in human societies of any size. The most powerful control mechanisms always win.

Man, I do not honestly know what to believe anymore...I want to believe the world isn't this fucked up but I can't. I always assumed as one of the more aware people who was already "awake" but the more I read on this, the more I want to refuse it. I'd never thought I would admit it but damn...

The only way to vanquish evil is to bring it to light. Once these monsters are out in the open sweet Lady Justice will come for them.

heck yeah. Lady Justice sounds dope

Thanks for all the research 👍

https://www.google.com/#q=pope+jimmy+savile

https://www.google.com/#q=queen+elizabeth+jimmy+savile

I am willing to believe this, but the evidence that you show doesnt link anything. Also the evidence isnt irrefutable, particularly because it mentions Father Ashcroft who doesnt seem who he appears to be.

http://www.logosapologia.org/who-is-father-jack-ashecraft/

Just keep digging though. I hope we have a future pulitizer winning journalist willing to sensibly tackle this issue.

I followed down this rabbit hole until the allegations that Pope Francis trafficked, raped and sacrificed children. You've gone too crazy.

Ye looks like he had his conclusions already drawn up and is now trying to cherry pick his evidence to back it up but fails. Sorry OP, its my opinion alone but the links are weak.

There's more evidence showing that the Catholic Church is a pedophile ring than there is showing that comets pizza is.

What does that have to do with the Pope himself trafficking, murdering and raping children?

The pope is part of an organization that has spent billions of dollars in America alone to cover up child rape charges. That doesn't mean that the pope is raping kids, but there's a lot more evidence leaning toward the pope raping kids, than there is at comets pizza.

but there's a lot more evidence leaning toward the pope raping kids, than there is at comets pizza.

No, there isn't. 😂

Wow.

On topic. Although almost nothing was said about this publicly in the US, here's why Pope Benedict had to resign

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/world-news/popes-child-porn-normal-claim-sparks-outrage-among-victims-28577483.html

How would this implicate on the catholic faith? I'm catholic but I don't approve of this

Thanks! Well-thought out!

i am under the impression they have to renew their 1000 years empire every now and then.

the motu propria by pope francis ended the 1000 years catholic cult?

What's up with a new movie by Scorses about Jesuits named Silence. Makes me think of the deafening silence from catholics like the pope about all the child abuse for years which helped predators run free and victims get victimized.

http://abcnews.go.com/Travel/chief-exorcist-rev-gabriele-amorth-devil-vatican/story?id=10073040

This is bullshit and is fake. There is no "International Common Law Court of Justice." It all goes back to one guy.

The court is not real, and the comments read like something trolls from topmind would post. Why fuck is this stickied?

Because this sub has been taken over by idiots. Just like /r/WikiLeaks

wikileaks has been compromised but this conspiracy sub is surprising me with bold independence as of late. a month ago tho CTR was running this sub but I think something went down on night of the election.

Too much coffee today my friend.

Hi

Are there officers of the court? Judges? A courtroom where witnesses give testimony? Written records? An address where the court can actually be seen? Or is it all just cheap YouTube videos and bullshit?

I'm talking about a people-centric, testimony and witness based evidence. If that's not good enough for the court, nothing is and any court that would use other evidence is actually fraudulent

Laws of physics is good evidence. Finding stolen property in someones possession is good evidence of theft. Witness testimony is also useful, but requires testing for various criteria of validity. Your complaint is more likely based on the corruption and criminality that have seized control of US institutions. The prybar that opens this up is not a new standard, but using the rule of law and not compromising on the principles of real investigating, differentiating between a hunch and real evidence for example. Its worth studying the rules of evidence. But, as long as the institutions are corrupt, nothing can really happen. Yet, that is not an excuse for the return of witch hunts, we still need to have some discipline to our investigation. Which means pizzagate needs a lot more credible witnesses who witnessed real crimes, not just stuff that was creepy.

There is a common sense line of balance that investigators sometimes miss. On the one hand, a lack of will to look in a particular direction, on the other a sensationalistic and lurid desire to turn something into a spectacle when the data has to be over twisted to get you there, and no better data is forthcoming. So on the one hand, you get the Pakistani ring, and on the other hand you get Kern County of the 80's or the infatuation of amateurs with Pizzagate. Those same amateurs, by the way, who didn't care about Hastert, or didn't even know about Savile.

If you haven't seen the Kern county pedophilia witch hunt video, you should: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0C2aQprdIM full movie: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DR3e44PR3E

I have no doubt that people capable of 9/11 are capable of anything. This pizzagate angle is unfortunate in that it is going to set back the conspiracy community because its too easy for the establishment to control the narrative, in fact, it looks like a psy op for that reason. There will be no forthcoming corroboration in pizzagate. When you are the underdog, you have to make each grip count, or your opponent wins. Pick your battles, or you won't be there to win on another day.

https://www.reddit.com/r/amibeingdetained/

see a bad law break it

but also, see a lack of law against something as heinous as child abuse, make it against the law, why? popular sovereignty, now maybe I'm wrong but I feel most are against it, the rich aren't apparently but that's not supposed to what goes in a democracy, which we're not, so let's make it one. Sorry of chain of thought.

I have always thought that the Vatican was evil, but this... it is sickening. Again and again there are witnesses and evidence, but nothing is ever done about it.

Do you guys ever find it weird how we sexualize media too much on tv so little kids can copy it really easy? Sometimes I think those illuminaughty nuts are right about some things. Theres a interesting documentary on how kids imitate TV/music stars dancing all sexually which is disturbing to watch.

An operating theory i've had is that children are sexualized as early as possible so that it's easier to use sex to sell stuff to them, earlier and later in life.

interesting documentary on how kids imitate TV/music stars

Title?

Don't forget Rudy Giuliani's ties to pedophiles in the Catholic Church.

I'm starting to feel really dirty having attended Jesuit-run higher education…

Still trying to tie these worldwide cases together into a cohesive narrative. From my own research on the Middle East I get the impression that organized religion has largely been subverted and overtaken by crypto-pagan cabals or worse, with the heresies perpetuated in these circles coming to be accepted over established religion. IIRC this was the case with the Babylonian Jews and their prioritizing the Talmud over the Torah.

I think the occult/religious aspect is very understudied and probably holds the key to a large part of this.

Louis CK would agree with all of this.

The ITCCS, the predominant source in this seems to be a one man operation and not an actual institute or have any law binding authority. Some interesting information but most of it having ITCCS does not really speak to me.

I found the allegations against the Pope, frankly, preposterous. He's the Pope. He's a nice old man. Right?

haha nice.

Everything everywhere leads to Rome.

There's actually no such thing as an "International Common Law Court of Criminal Justice." or whatever that guy calls it. It's completely made up, and the product of some nut on the internet. A lot of these "verdicts" are entirely made-up, having never had any trial anywhere, much less simultaneously in multiple nations. If there were some sort of magical international criminal court, it would have to come from treaties signed by every nation involved, and we wouldn't have the need to extradite people to stand trial for their crimes. The UK and its former colonies are the only places that subscribe to "Common Law," with all of continental Europe and all of South America using what is known as "Civil Code." Russia and China have their own bizarre quasi-civil-code with a socialist law tradition.

Ya know, actually, that's exactly right. Sovereignty is exactly the reason why that court doesn't exist. The USA would never submit its own citizens to trial in a criminal court outside the USA, unless they violated the sovereignty and the laws of another sovereign state, with whom we had formal treaty negotiations. This guy Kevin what's his face, with all the alphabet soup organizations-- he certainly isn't going to somehow be allowed to indict someone. That would subject them to the adjudication of an unelected sovereign's capricious and absurd claims to have power over them. Our nation believes to a large extent that the common law follows the American citizen, and that the American citizen is best tried in an American or state court.

Yay America for protecting our rights and our sovereignty. But, much to your chagrin, if ever you get indicted by a US Attorney and a federal grand jury for a federal crime, yelling nonsense about your personal sovereignty and your submission only to your local sheriff-- that'll get you less than nowhere. And at the heart of it, any sovereign's inherent right over you comes from its ability to make you submit. Consider the state your personal leviathan.

Moreover, my fellow citizens deserve to be able to seek damages from me in court if I have wronged them. I, in turn, have the rights guaranteed to me as a citizen under the bill of rights and the 14th amendment. Trust me, you don't want to be ruled as having given up your claims to those protections in a US court. By engaging with a society, you submit to its sovereignty in at least a limited sense for the common good. So these sovcitizen nutbars need to start paying their tickets, and stop claiming that the statutory age of consent around their particular trailer home is twelve. As Walter said, dude, We live in a society. There are rules.

Fuck. THIS is what I want my conspiracy theories to look like. I've never heard of Ninth Circle before, perhaps being a little new around here is reason for that. I mean, is this our name? Is Ninth Circle the name of the beast we're hunting here?

I've never questioned whether the Vatican was involved in covering up child abuse. I've simply assumed that as truth given the revelations about child abuse being so rampant in the catholic church. I hadn't made any connections between this and pizza gate.

This is fucked up and hard to read, like emotionally hard. Thanks for sharing it.

Interesting...

many pizza gate leads keep leading back to the "Black pope" and the Jesuits & knights of Malta & Illuminati

Many of these groups philanthropy supports child refugees

Peaches Geldof a Crowley follower had a OTO tattoo

"Ordo Templi Orientis"

http://i4.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article1794569.ece/ALTERNATES/s615/Peaches-Geldof.png

Aleister Crowley https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aleister_Crowley

OTO http://oto-usa.org/oto/initiation/

Before It’s News — April 8, 2014

Peaches Gedolf was instrumental in exposing Ian Watkins (pictured), who was convicted for raping babies with their mothers consent.

Was Peaches Geldof murdered by the Illuminati and the Knights of Malta for exposing pedophiles just months ago?

http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/?p=94751

Detailed following of the history of the Black pope

https://warningilluminati.wordpress.com/the-most-powerful-man-in-the-world-the-black-pope/

The 'Black Pope' and Accused Child Killer Adolfo Nicolas Pachon Will Resign From Office

Amidst rumours that Pope Francis, Jorge Bergoglio, may step down from his office because of his public prosecution for child trafficking and murder, one of his fellow defendants has just done so.

Jesuit Superior General Adolfo Nicolas Pachon, [also known as the Black Pope], announced suddenly this week that he will resign from his office at the next General Congress of the Jesuits.

Along with Archbishop of Canterbury Justin Welby, Bergoglio and Pachon are primary defendants in an historic criminal lawsuit being conducted by the International Common Law Court of Justice in Brussels that commenced on April 7, 2014.

http://humansarefree.com/2014/05/the-black-pope-and-accused-child-killer.html

The new "Black Pope"

Arturo Sosa October 14, 2016 Incumbent Caracas, Venezuela

http://communio.stblogs.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/Arturo-Marcelino-Sosa-Abascal.jpg

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superior_General_of_the_Society_of_Jesus

Thank you for sharing.

Bookmark.

Hoe are people only learning about this now??? This shits been floating around for years, and people are only waking up to it now.

I didn't necessarily mean your title. I meant that the fact that there has been pedophilia going on in almost all of the most powerful influential powers on earth. The Vatican, the US government/ intelligence agencies, Hollywood ( I wrote a paper a out Corey Haim and Corey Feldman) those child actors go through some dark shit man

http://www.mosquitonet.com/~prewett/caqsmom25.1.html

Great post, thanks. All pizza leads to rome. I never thought about it that way before.

At the risk of losing focus by shotgunning more culprits, how are the Rothschilds not involved in any of this? There are conspiracies around their involvement with the Vatican bank.

The Rothschilds, Rockefellers, Morgans, etc are involved in a way. Think of them as the bankers and the Jesuits/Vatican as the bank. They're public so we collectively have someone to hate while the Vatican thrives behind closed doors.

pizza is not italian food.

I'm willing to believe most, if not all of this, but you should be aware that the Brussels Common Law Court of Justice is just one guy in Canada who tries people in absentia without any sort of jurisdiction or recognition, international or otherwise. Now that doesn't mean that these allegations aren't true or that the witnesses aren't credible. All I'm saying is the Court is not quite as important as it sounds.

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/International_Tribunal_into_Crimes_of_Church_and_State

Has all this happened only since 1965 (Vatican II council), or does it go back in history before that?

I think that's around the time they killed that one Pope and replaced him with an imposter

It goes far, far back into the past, though you won't learn much about it in the "history" or the various "religions" as largely invented by the Vatican. The facade is starting to crack in this institution named for the grandson of Genghis Khan or Presbyter John, the great "Megalian" leader shown by modern science to be an ancestor of much of the planet's population. People are slowly awakening to the reality that major modern religions all began as a Roman psy-op. Abraham > Ab Rome > From Rome. I understand this is all a little too much to swallow in this era of Pepe and pepperoni, but I think we'll be there soon. r/newchronology

Alex Recalls McKinney Grilling Secretary Rumsfeld for Dyncorp and Halliburton Sex Slave Scandal

Yes. Its really amazing when you think about it. These people say they are here to protect us but they are ruining peoples lives at a very young age.

Straight up crazy if people can't see it.

Excellent post. Thank you!

Dojo Pizza owner arrested, was exploiting young girls over 6 years, creating child porn, human trafficking (April 2016) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajk_xvLBcS4

I think Littlefinger is supposed to represent Jesuits in GoT, hence the priesy-like Garb

This is sad.

I'm disappointed that this sub would sticky baseless shit like this. If you are going to call out a group for being connected to this please accuse Talmudic Jews. I use to look forward to your posts but I think you are controlled disinfo at this point. Nobody is buying this bullshit

Oh but they are. Hook, line and sinker.

Why has this been stickied for so long? Obvious misdirection. It's the catholics!!!!!!!!

I have serious doubts about this. A lot of this is based on testimony and evidence in front of the International Common Law Court of Justice, but there seems to be no such existing organization outside of a couple of internet links.

That's because when you have the power of the Vatican, you control the courts and the information. The Vatican is the oldest, most powerful corporation on earth aside from China. They have limitless coverup opportunities and they are literally The World Bank.

The court mentioned in the links is not a real court -- I could not find an address or any other evidence outside its own links that it is a real institution.

You're right; I am the moderator of a subreddit that exposes the Jesuit Papacy, and I would never promote this fraud Kevin Annett. Look at what happens to people who fall victim to believing his fake court is real: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=keQzLV4LEUc

Most likely his purpose is to discredit the very real systematic murder and genocide of the Canadian aboriginals by English and Catholic religious institutions since he tries to be the natives' advocate when many of these aboriginals have said they want nothing to do with him.

Are the lack of comments on this proportional to the disbelief?

Yeah there was a guy making posts about this getting shilled hard in pizzagate

https://districtfallout.wordpress.com/your-neighborhood/

Map of fallout shelters in the area... They definitely follow along connecticut ave.

muh Jesuits muh vatican

You guys are acting like the Vatican is the topdawg when Jewish blood libel has been a thing since like... forever. I hate this pansy ass jesuit pope and I wouldn't be surprised but this goes up way higher then the Vatican. Reminder that a lot of the Jesuit/Vatican theories are disinfo created by some Israeli diamond trader (im not saying that their isn't a jesuit conspiracy)

The Jesuits were crypto Jews ayways

what do you think about the serpent seed theory?

I thought Israel was created as a quid pro quo for rigging g the media in usa to get the people to no longer favor Germany and allow usa to get into the war

Look up the Balfour Declaration

A certain group of people control the media and got usa to disfavor Germans to get usa to accept joining ww1. The balfour declaration was a quid pro quo for that. England would've lost the war otherwise.

Y'all see the pattern here?

folks, you should check san marino too. there is something about this enclave.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sexually_active_popes

classic shit

Why am I so totally NOT surprised?!

There's nothing satanic or devil worship going on. This is about power and money. In theyre minds they get this little sex slave. Some of them pedos, doesmt matter if it's a bit or girl. And money gets you this little treat. Or should I say slice of heaven.

This sort of stuff is cointell pro. Psi-ops. Distraction agents from the government. It's nonsense to distract us from what's really going on and doing something about it.

That's my guess at least

It's royalty.

My bodysnatcher, would you be ever so kind and give me your opinion of a youtuber by the name of George Lee's? I think his research is pretty good!

Sorry for the late reply my man Here you go

He is a bit mental but who isn't that researches this shit eh?

what do they call ping pong in DC

All pizza leads back to Rome, that was well thought. It is extremely telling that the admins would allow this rabbit hole to be posted to the top of this sub, while censoring entirely the pizza going on in our nations capital right now.

Quick, look that way! Pay no attention to what is by far the most serious and far fetching pedo conspiracy going on both political parties in our nation.

It fine to name names here, and tarnish some peoples reputations, but not others, surely not based on political connections or parties, oh no.

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Pizza Parlor Manager Michael Devlin http://www.foxnews.com/story/2007/01/14/man-accused-kidnapping-two-boys-likely-kept-them-mentally-shackled-experts-say.html

This whole pedogate stuff reminded me of something that happened in Ireland. I haven't done any research into if it's related but it was a horrific discovery of nearly 800 infant body's in a septic tank and in the context of this post though it was worth sharing. https://www.google.ie/amp/s/www.irishtimes.com/news/social-affairs/tuam-mother-and-baby-home-the-trouble-with-the-septic-tank-story-1.1823393%3Fmode%3Damp?client=ms-android-oneplus

This has 0 to do with pizzagate. These are actually real.

Probably been going on since they "roman elite" created christianity and killed off all the indian druids that ruled in europe. Then they covered it all up and built churches over their "shiva" temples. St patrick was one of these bastards.

Can someone PLEASE explain what pizzagate is? I'm honestly so confused and it seems so interesting

This is a good overview.

https://aceloewgold.com/2016/11/20/pizzagate-clinton-podesta-what-is-it-and-is-it-credible/

I hope all of them get arrested, sent to prison, then raped. Every last inhuman person that was involved.

The devil has entered the vatican. Or is the Vatican the devil?

Can someone explain to me what the International Common Law Court of Justice is? So from reading I see they found pope bendedict and the queen of england and others guilty of genocide and sentenced them to 25 years in prison? But of coarse the pope and queen ignored this. So is the International Common Law Court of Justice fake?

I don't know if fake is the right word, but I don't believe it holds any power or authority, so sort of.

Has anyone here ever read Foxes Book of Martyrs or Two Babylons?

The Roman Catholics have been at this a long time.

"A Woman Rides the Beast."

Correction: All Rome leads to pizza (trust me I've been there).

This "It's the Jesuits!", to me, sounds like "It's the Jews!" It's deception.

It's not deception at all. The Jews have been the pawns of the Vatican since the dawn of modern civilization. To use a t_d meme, the Vatican has been playing 4D underwater chess for centuries. I'm not saying Israel doesn't do bad things, but the Vatican owns Israel along with the United States and London.

If you knew your history, you'd know that the Catholic Church was aligned with Hitler, and neither Jews not Israel benefited from their cozy relationship.

Yeah, 4D underwater chess. Israel hadn't become a property of the Vatican yet. I know my history.

Israel owe's its existence to their relationship does it not?

if by "owing their existence" you mean "being the victims of the first ever industrial genocide", then yes. But make no mistake, Hitler wasn't doing Jews a favor.

An incredibly black-and-white way of looking at it. And it takes away Jew's autonomy especially since they weren't just handed the land.

They fought the colonialist British for 8 years.

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transfer agreement

That $4b bill for settlements against child abuse accusers didn't happen due to innocence of the defendants.

Keep digging brothers.

Priests be rapin'!old news

The Pope is the Anti-Christ. Please turn to Jesus and repent. Read the book of Revelation

I then to believe that an apostate pope will be the false prophet, not the antichrist, in the book of Revelation.

I did and it turned out to be an allegory for the Catholic Mass. Thanks.

It may seem that way... Perhaps recommending Revelation isn't wise to unbelievers or babes in Christ for lack of context/foundational knowledge of the Bible.

I will edit my statement and say. Read the Word and pray for God to reveal Himself, if you genuinely seek the truth ☺️

thanks for the post

This has firmly placed itself in my very believable, weird shit folder.

I didn’t know Tel Aviv was in Rome…

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=2%20Thessalonians%202

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Dont know if this is a part of the old testament believe not

Just another reason to support a full on genocide of the modern Catholic church establishment. Rid these heritics and scumbargs from the church, and do it swiftly and violently, it is time to restore Catholicism to its natural fashy state. Deus Vult! Deus Vult! Deus Vult!

Never read the Bible but if that's in your line of belief, I can see why you would think that. They very well could be! The Vatican is some extremely evil stuff.

yep

`I was raised atheist by scientifically literate parents and do not currently believe in a personified deity, however through my own research and study I have come to develop a profound understanding and respect for the theological thinkers of bygone eras. I have read many works of scripture and apologetic from many faiths within and external to the christian fold, some of which i agree with and some of which i don't - to say i am a christian would be foolish, to say i am not a christian would be short sighted.

how about you, is this a holy quest for you? some battle to ensure the faith you were born into wins over all others? or are you more devout that that, are you like me a true believer in the wonder of the universe and simply want to do your duty as a thinking being to try and understand the reality which has been presented of us?

I woke up long ago and have been working to make the world a better place for 20 years or so as best I can.

Anyways if you can't really make up your mind as to whether Jesus was the son of God - the only and only true god - then you're probably not a christian in my books anyways... but yeah you can believe whatever you want to.

I'm also not swearing off modern society. I like it a lot, but cities are not healthy places to live (unless you're wealthy).

I then to believe that an apostate pope will be the false prophet, not the antichrist, in the book of Revelation.

have you seen that movie, does the character talk about what 7th day Adventism is much, how it'd different from Catholicism? Just wondering if Mel is trying to send us a message.

It's a fantastic movie and the characters entire being is based on his faith. It does show how the others in his unit are also christians but their faith doesn't stop them from harassing and hurting the main character for his beliefs (he refuses to cary a weapon and saves 200+ men wounded in action). In the end the other characters refuse to go into combat without him. Nothing specific against catholics. Mel is part of the Old Catholic church strongly apposed to modern catholocism

I never said it was Bacon I said it was a large group of collaborators.

which is just as absurd, i mean honestly you've obviously got no idea how much we actually know about his life and times - why are they faking this? what possible reason would a collection of aristocrats (though apparently not bacon?) have for setting up a low-grade playhouse on the south side of the river and performing bawdy dramas which most people doubt would survive a single run let alone enter into history as such significant works. this theory makes no sense, if you can then defend it using actual arguments and sensible sounding reasoning...

Snooty academics? You mean the ones most educated and qualified to make the call?

in the eighteenth century when this theory was mildly popular, you wont find a single serious historian or literary academic who believes anything other than there was a man called William Shaxspere who wrote a load of plays, some sonnets, songs, and ballads (mostly lost to the grace of history) - id you want to go with academic opinion then academic opinion is absolutely certain that shakes was the real deal.

Im glad you've vetted it all for us then. pack it in boys!

it doesn't require someone to know every single aspect of history to know there's a coherent timeline of events which would make absolutely no sense if you skip a thousand years in the middle of it - i mean honestly, do you not know anything about the era 500-1500ad, i mean that's like the entire age of faith right to the reformation, i mean really, you think all of that's made up?

Manuscripts written by jesuit monks who's motto literally means "the ends justify the means".

yes i've read Ignatius, the founder of the Society of Jesus better known as the Jesuit order, it was founded in response to the reformation - think about that for a second, in response to the reformation.... think about that. but yeah, skipping the obvious, you're telling me that old holey'shoes wrote the entire history of pre-reformation Catholicism as part of a sinister trick to insert a thousand years into the timeline for no discernible reason?

Why are you so confident you are reading marco polos original words?

do you know what source cohesion is? it's like how police know if a witness is telling lies, are there things in this book which shouldn't be there? are there not things which should? this is one of the many ways that people use to ascertain the veracity of texts, another useful one is when are the earliest references to this text and quotes from it -- people don't quote books before they're written, i mean have you any idea how hard that'd be to organise for pool ol' ig?

well if you believe it was anything like the popular netflix show you are sorely mistaken

i have literally no idea what you're talking about but find it hilarious you imagine the only source of knowledge is popular culture, that might well explain why you know basically nothing about history or how history works?

Why would people discuss conspiracy in a conspiracy form? Get out of here concern troll.

oh baby learned a buzzword! do you see a sign which says 'this place is where idots say anything they like and no one is allowed to question them'? no? then fuck off back to godlike if that's what you're after - this is a place for people who are interested in finding the truth and trying to solve some of the complex problems of the world.

Desmond Doss. His documentary is even better than the movie cuz the movie doesnt show some parts right.

https://youtu.be/4E3reiJYFpw

I did and it turned out to be an allegory for the Catholic Mass. Thanks.

First time hearing about such cases, can you lead me to some sources I can read up myself, sorry?

Study the early church fathers (those who studied with the apostles) for better clarity

*Mother of Harlots

I don't know if fake is the right word, but I don't believe it holds any power or authority, so sort of.

The pope is part of an organization that has spent billions of dollars in America alone to cover up child rape charges. That doesn't mean that the pope is raping kids, but there's a lot more evidence leaning toward the pope raping kids, than there is at comets pizza.

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