CNN & BBC using the term "fake news" will backfire on them

414  2016-12-02 by BigBrownBeav

I noticed this term being thrown around. They are calling #pizzagate "fake news". I believe this will backfire on them as it shines a light on their own credibility. People will be pondering this term as it rattles around their vernaculars. They'll wonder what fake news really means. Hopefully they'll notice whats staring them right in the face.

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The "Fake news" push is based on a very common marketing strategy called "Perceived Value." It's the idea that when packaged correctly, a product is perceived to be prestigious/valuable/luxurious, etc. It has nothing to do with absolute value of the actual product, only the perception of the presentation.

MSM is struggling to remain relevant in a time where they are not. They desperately need people to believe they are offering something of value to stay afloat - and in the case of pizzagate, tourniquet the wound.

You are absolutely right. It will ultimately backfire, and it is gonna be epic.

Just like the DNC tipping the scales for Hillary over Bern dog

You give me hope!

CNN is an entertainment channel to sell commercial air time and the BBC is so worthless that it requires constant government funding. In fact the BBC started out as a government propaganda channel, just like the American PBS, and has never left it. Now that they no longer accurately relay information about disasters or crisis, like terrorist attacks, they have even less useful to normal people, i.e. people who don't work in a government or globalist capacity. People who work in the Information Technology field, like the News organizations, which are really just old-school IT for Broadcasting with Advertising space that say what they are paid to say and act how they are hired to act.

Yes!

not only that, they fuck all the predictions too... see economy, brexit, trump, etc. even if their luxurious envelope kinda still stands, they're also lacking credibility at the core.

And I hope people will start to notice the difference between real news and sponsored pieces. So, McDonalds has a new sandwich? Top notch investigative reporting there. There's some new drug? I'm sure Phizer didn't sponsor that.

Have you seen how Fox is letting Megan Kelly sell her new book on air? Super weird.

That's been par for the coarse in cable news for ever. How many books has Bill O'Reilly peddled on his show over the years? Member Larry king? I agree it is weird and does not belong in journalism.

Here's 12 minutes of MSNBC literally discussing the fact that they're the fake news. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zY3nRgEZTm8

This seems like a stunt to reassure the public that they are indeed "real" journalists that are getting right back on the ethics train that they fell off of during the election .. Or to make themselves sleep better at night knowing they'll be right back to sensational headlines the next day

This "Fake News" bullshit - fake and fabricated articles have been around as long as we've had news to read or hear - might just be big enough to kill MSM. It's big enough that it could discredit some major newspapers, which would be the end of them.

Here's to hoping!

Exactly, in the days before clickbait bullshit there was tabloid bullshit by the checkout at the grocery store.

Use it on them constantly. Attack fake news stories on CNN, like interviewing their cameraman.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AdCk6gJqmoc

Mainstream media is already on the way out. Celente has a good point in one of his interviews, many MSM outlets tied to that list of 65 journalists blindly supported Hillary and it showed in their parrot like messaging and SHE STILL LOST!

A recent stat said about 30% of respondents thought that MSM was truthful or real. That means about 2/3 rds of their viewers likely just see them as infotainment.

It's already happening. The Internet and associated technologies are opening information up to all with access. Just because MSM' broadcast medium is one way doesn't mean most people (edit don't * ) doubt them and (don't*) completely distrust them.

Let's make and spread memes like this one: MSM #FakeNews

but of better quality if possible.

Impossible. The quality is unparallelable!

Of couse it will backfire. I'm actually surprised they devised this crap, barely ANYBODY trusts the mainstream media anymore. Don't they realize the irony of this whole thing? The actual "Fake News" calling alternative media sources "Fake News"? Dumbest thing the system has ever done, because when they created the term fake news, they didn't anticipate the possibility of having that term applied to THEM. "Fake news" is going to be applied to them and used against them. It will take some time to spread, but this is the fucking nail in the coffin of the MSM.

Just a perfect example that when TPTB are faced with an immediate crisis (pizzagate being leaked), they are forced to rush, and when they rush, they make mistakes. They are not "all powerful and all knowing", they fuck up too, and they are frequently forced to bury their mistakes and run damage control.

MSM co-conspirator on 9/11, and then from 2012 onwards SHES, ditto Boston, ditto all the rest.

2016 and the bizarre Orlando, the imperial HRC POTUS campaign and all the MSM onboard the HRC ship.

the MSM has dug its own grave, people know and/or have suspicions on the infamous news stories, not all of them but enough to raise doubts.

all these billion dollar news orgs that fcuk up so often in reporting basic stories, or fail to keep their respective stories straight to the official story.

them talking 'fake news' will crucify the MSM.

There was an article I recently read where they claimed pizzagate was debunked, and linked to another site (NYT or something), and I clicked over. The article went something like this: "Pizzagate, a conspiracy theory that has been debunked...." uhhh, they didn't debunk crap. Just saying its debunked doesn't make it so. They also managed to omit all the weird ass crap, like Ping Pong social media pics showing kids duct taped to tables and the like.

Long live Baghdad Bob edit:link vid

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let's face it. they're out of ideas.

hollyweird mirrors the MSM, endless remakes and bad ones at that.

Other than the media talking heads, are everyday people buying into this narrative of fake news? I don't use social media so I have no idea.

Reddit is social media.

My morning news (In Canada for fucks sake) Look at trump bashing the media! (Anchors act like trump is smaller than MSM and criticize him for not being in his place) Go try this expensive attraction in town!

5 mins for Weather, traffic..

Look at this liberal arts thing in our city! Look at this thing you can buy! Look at Trump being stupid, lets watch Colbert bash trump! (Anchors all bash trump). Rinse and repeat for 3 hours. Two trump bashing segments every half hour.

I hear you, I sometimes listen to cbc radio in the car. Constant bullshit.

Agreed

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do not forget the Daily Mail, they quite often are the originating source for a lot of TLA disinfo. DC is outsourcing to London outlets.

British girl Lily Gaubet whose stolen photo used on Gofundme for two weeks (her parents didn't notice !!!!)

back when Google and Bing could be relied on for accurate dates on news, the story/article or picture could often be traced back to the DM.

late 2012 and definitely 2013 Google deliberately fuzzed up their date records (Bing remained accurate for a while), and Bing made their picture search tools less useful.

it used to be possible to look for comparative pictures on Bing and find the MSM's original hires source pics. this often told a story and showed who had placed the first picture onto the web.

Clearly you underestimate the stupidity of people as a whole. Never underestimate what people will do against their own best interest.

I don't. But this seems like a last ditch effort. So I'm hoping this will be that moment where people start to realize how badly they've been lied to by these companies.

Ummm.. Fake news is propaganda by any other name. Only stupid people will not understand the difference. The propaganda war is limited only by the rational understanding of the material being presented, don't be fooled.

Alt Right Alt Media Alt News Fake News

See the 3 step move. Its working and will work. It's all over.

ZOG propaganda machines.

Thanks for bringing a positive outlook to this often dark sub.

You're welcome friend.

Definitely. Our language is all about symbolism. "Fake news" definitely invokes curiousity.

Fake news? we should work their twitter accounts about their reporting on Benghazi. Anyone with an internet connection could verify that there is no Consulate in Benghazi and there never has been, yet these jokers continued that falsehood for months. What a joke.

This is taken from Germany ... here in Germany the pegida people calls the MSM: "Lügenpresse" and its very effective.

US media use this now before the other side can call them out on all their lies.

Who else remembers when CNN broadcast nothing but "no further updates yet on that missing plane" 24 hours a day for over 40 straight days, reporting on no other news whatsoever, even though entire countries were being invaded during that time?

Pepperidge Farm remembers.

lol link pls this sounds hilarious

Did you not have cable/CNN a couple years ago? If not, I think the flight was called "mh370" it vanished en route to somewhere and CNN literally did nothing for 40 straight days but cover the fact there was no information about what happened to the plane.

Nothing but endless speculation about what happened, guys in flight simulators flying over the same route the plane took showing how it could have gone down, interviewing the pilot's ex-girlfriend, shit like that, non-stop, no other news at all for the entire time. Not one other news story was reported on (except for the crawl at the bottom), and this was the same time period Russia was invading somebody, maybe ukraine(?) or whoever they invaded back then, and tons of other world events. I was watching almost non-stop in utter disbelief because I could not believe how insane it was becoming, but it really was so insane. Like crazy-people insane. I thought maybe I had maybe entered the twilight zone. They had no info at all, and they just kept rehashing and rehashing nothing with non-stop "BREAKING" updates that were always just complete bullshit about how nothing new was being discovered. "BREAKING!!!! SEARCH CONTINUES FOR FLIGHT MH370!" Shit like that.

I don't know what you mean by links, like, I don't know if anyone recorded 40 straight days of nothing. I just remember watching it while it happened.

Oh yeah that was pretty funny. The people at the top of the media, the editors/owners etc, are seriously just fucking with people's heads at this point. Maybe their secondary motive was to subliminally discredit Malaysia but honestly the whole thing is just to manipulate people's emotions.

We have a troll government and a troll media and a troll economy and troll "justice" system and a troll culture, and it's all just a bunch of fucking magic and misdirection and who gives a shit. There is nothing authentic anymore at all except the weapons they use when you step out of line. Everything else is Bizzaro Disneyland on an epic scale. I don't see why anyone participates in this madhouse anymore. It's not worth the grief. Just fucking drop out. Grow pot and potatoes, burn your TV and and say 'fuck you!' to this farce of society is maybe the right move.

Haha. Your description of this is gold. I couldn't figure out what the fuck mgmt at CNN was thinking. I guess they were getting good ratings. They seem to exhibit this behavior often on some news items but that 40 day period with the missing plans was insane.

After that I realized that the middle N in CNN is like the M in MTV. It no longer has anything to do with "News", it's just a meaningless anachronism from the ancient past when things meant things. Today it's pure "currentish events" based entertainment. And they're all like that now, not a single one is immune to the cancer. If I were a journalist today I would be in a ball crying on the floor.

remember the CNN dude (park arrest guy) who took a film crew onto the same MH370 plane a couple of weeks before it vanished.

same co-pilot too.

there was a 100% CNN PRE-connection to the vanished MH370.

somebody on that CNN film crew had access to the planes electronics bay.

inserting a command module or changing software would have been easy.

remember that just four months later MH17 was shot-down over the Eastern Ukraine during a NATO exercise !?

MSM is on its way out. I'll be surprised if it's still going strong next election

we need a website like wikileaks for MSM lies. something where everyone can link the article with proof how they lie. and so give all the media a "Bullshit"- rating

Snopes, if Snopes says X then Y is true.

They don't give a fuck, their main mission is to distract, confuse and emotionally manipulate people, providing a coherent propaganda message is secondary and a throwback to an outdated model.

This is the most comprehensive proof ive found.

http://www.lostscribemedia.com/news/911-israels-masterpiece/

I know I'm posting to your post a month later, but I just wanted to let you know how prescient you were. New York Times today announced they will no longer be using the term "Fake News" in their paper and I can well imagine it's for the reason you mentioned.

The problem is you dumbshits believe anything you read.

I don't believe you.

I don't care what you believe.

Then why are you posting about what I believe?

Because you are making everyone stupider. And someone needs to tell you, what you're saying is silly.

So you do care about what I believe! Fake news - Exposed!

Back when I was in school they called it "Yellow Journalism".

Hey, you can believe whatever nonsense you want, but when its bullshit, its bullshit. I know you aren't prepared to handle that, but it's just not true.

I'm just messing with you... someone would have to be insane to actually believe everything they read... just based on the fact that so much of it is totally contradictory.

Good now go to bed.

Yes Daddy! You sure you don't wanna spank me first?

HAIL SATAN!

You suck at trolling. If you had a day job id tell you to not quit it. You shouldn't quit being a lady of the evening either.

woah 666 in the name, wait... controversial comic man deadpool in there too? you must be a real no nonsense worshipper of the lightbringer who can crack a few lewd one liners with the boys

Because you are making everyone stupider. And someone needs to tell you, what you're saying is silly.

That's been par for the coarse in cable news for ever. How many books has Bill O'Reilly peddled on his show over the years? Member Larry king? I agree it is weird and does not belong in journalism.