Thank you!

Thank you. Cause that's exactly the point I was trying to make.

I don't disagree honestly. Ever since everything became ...gate its become easier for the masses to discount. Especially when gate is attached to any and all scandal these days, real or imaginary.

Let me as you a question you fucking idiot, if you are walking down the street and someone is standing on a corner screaming about the end of the world and saying all kind of hyperbolic shit with nothing to back it up are you going to believe them?

Now let's say that someone walks up to you, with facts in hand, and says here is whats happening, here is how it's effecting you, and here's what you can do. There's something called tact, learn it and use it.

It's the same method that religion uses. Especially something like Scientology. And yes, they are horrible, but this works. They don't start off with "L Ron is God and Xenu is real", that would come off as fucking insane. No. They start off with the facts that they know they can hook you with, and then once they have you, then they start to present you the more questionable aspects that are harder to prove (can be outright disproven). They don't do this becuase it's easier, they do this because it fucking works.

This isn't self censorship, this is using the same tactis used to control others against them to ensure that your point isn't discounted whole sale. If you can't see that then you are doomed to fail and they have already won.

Learn how to use their own games agains them, and maybe you'll get further. If you refuse to do that, then good fucking luck ever getting out from under their control.

"Self censorship". No. Use your fucking brain you goddamn idiot.

You want to know why no one is taking this shit seriously? This type of fucking thinking, that's why. There's a way to use what they do to us against them. You will never win fighting the system head on, it is bigger then you and designed to push you down. So you have to learn how to use it against them. This isn't rocket science, this is literally day one teaching of The Art of War. Maybe study up on this and psyops and you will learn a thing or two, and maybe then you can actually start to make some semblance of a difference not just screaming into the wind on Reddit.

I am in no way advocating for the ignoring of these issues. I'm just saying a bit of tact needs to be used. Introduce people to the more believable and proveable aspects of the case. Once that is done, and they have bought in, then introduce them to the more outlandish and harder to prove aspects.

I thought I did, that's why I used Scientology as an example. As its a horrible "religion" but damned if they don't practice this very well.

First off, don't call me "bud" I'm not a child, nor do I appreciate being spoken to as such.

Secondly I never claimed Scientology was good or wasn't up to horrible things. I think you missed the ENTIRE point of that being brought up.

I also NEVER said don't discuss these things. Once again you've seemingly missed the entire point of my post. In fact I am saying you can discuss these things, but you shouldn't lead off with them.

At NO POINT did endorse or encourage censorship. Honestly i am concerned at this point you don't even know what that word means. The only people who brought up censorship were people who woefully misinterpreted the point. Something I may add quite a few other managed not to do. Which makes me think the message may not be the problem, but maybe your own inherent biases at play.

Either way, believe what you want. I'm done after this as the condescension and refusal to acknowledge the basic facts of the post , even as you may agree with some of it, are enough to make me realize any further discussion with you regarding this is a waste of my and your time.

Edit: I will add, sometimes there is a need for censorship actually. Such as times of war. Do you want to broadcast to your enemy everything you do? Saying something is "never good" is just as, if not more, dangerous to the larger whole. I don't advocate censorship, as stared, but I also understand that sometimes there is a need and reason for it. Another example, should the police let someone know they are investigating them? Should they show their hand or be tactful about it? Call it censorship call it operation security call it whatever you want. Sometimes its about choosing when and how to address a situation. Its not always best to just take to the streets and start screaming about everything you can. You catch more flies with honey and all that, after all.

"Don't tell people what to talk about. You sound like a fucking shill."

Coming from the guy telling me what the fuck to talk about. Thank about that for one fucking second my man. Just one fucking second.

That being said, read the post right above your own, where I explain why this can be a bad thing. If you don't understand than you are doomed to fail and no one will take you seriously. There is a time and place, for everything, learn it and you'll be better off.

/slow clap

So well said.

And what the fuck would you call what I'm doing? I'm calling for people to be smart. You are telling me what to talk about, all while telling me not to do that exact thing to others. The height of hypocrisy might I add. So what example would you be referring to? Your hypocritical one , the one I have laid out, or something else entirely that we have yet to discuss?

Did you read my reply you goddamn idiot? I'm not crying, I'm pointing out the absolute stupidity in your way of thinking and how idiotic you truly are if you believe it.

You can call that crying. I like to call I educating a stupid to fuck on reddit. I guess we can agree to disagree as you can't win em all.

Cheers.

Maybe keep reading instead of discounting people after one sentence. That's just ignorant and highly dangerous.

Honestly why would you even admit that? It just makes you look ignorant and unwilling to see any side but your own. Sorry, but I doing believe in living life that way. If someone writes something I disagree with I don't just read one sentence and then launch into an attack. That just makes me the asshole not the other way around.

Advice taken, as you are right honestly.

All the best to you as well.

I am in no way advocating for the ignoring of these issues. I'm just saying a bit of tact needs to be used. Introduce people to the more believable and proveable aspects of the case. Once that is done, and they have bought in, then introduce them to the more outlandish and harder to prove aspects.