Can we make a "pizzagate is fake" sub, so the trolls have somewhere to go and be redirected to?
0 2016-12-07 by Beneficial1
So many lately have an issue with this pizza conspiracy and that is interfering with the ability for research and developments for those who would like to investigate.
It's draining to have to argue with people when you want to discuss possible evidence. And people who would like to don't need to have their threads derailed constantly. I would list examples but it's obvious.
So can we get a sub for the folks who disagree? Call it "pizza no toppings" or something. Then that way they can have their space, conspiracy can have theirs, and any trolls can be redirected back home.
Because right now most of these threads become arguments about who is a troll or not, and about cognitive bias and anything else non productive that a thread can possibly be derailed into.
So hell, if they are this passionate it's fake, then assuredly we can get them their own sub?
36 comments
9 Rockran 2016-12-07
That's not how any of this works. This sub is not an echo chamber.
You can't just request anyone that would disagree with you to leave.
3 Beneficial1 2016-12-07
No, but I can choose to not interact with them, but offer them a place for further information about their topic of interest. It's an alternative to being baited.
3 SeepingMoisture 2016-12-07
Just... Don't reply if you don't like them?
What you're actually saying is lots of people see through the pizza nonsense and it would make your life much easier if you only had people agreeing with you in comments.
As parent said, that's not how any of this works. If you want blind acceptance, go to voat/v/pizzagate
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5 Beneficial1 2016-12-07
Just saying, it kind of is. And pizza gate subbed was banned so, that option is off the table.
1 redditeditard 2016-12-07
This, please. Make your own sub. The majority of rational thinkers here do not believe that CPP is the ring/root of the international pedophilia circle. Constant reposting and comment wars are downgrading this sub as a whole and also opening up the door for heavy moderation/censorship or an outright ban.
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1 redditeditard 2016-12-07
The thing I find most damning is the pizza map, assuming map actually means a physical map. When does a map become irrelevant and not needing to be returned? When a location keeps changing! Pedophilia ritual sites aren't going to remain the same unless it is extremely difficult to access. It's not like it's bingo night, when you go every Thursday.
1 Boomaloomdoom 2016-12-07
This is a strawman. Nobody believes CPP is at the heart of an international pedo circle.
There was a sub. It got shut down. Remember?
1 redditeditard 2016-12-07
I remember Sunil Tripathi....
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1 IntellisaurDinoAlien 2016-12-07
Removed, warning for rule 10.
5 SeepingMoisture 2016-12-07
Do you know how reddit works?
Make a sub yourself!
Alternatively take all this pizza bullshit to voat and give us all peace.
1 Beneficial1 2016-12-07
Leave the sub and site does nothing to accommodate all opinions.
4 whyd_you_kill_doakes 2016-12-07
T_D takes over conspiracy
Pizzagate is pushed by mostly T_D
T_D tells conspiracy to find a new sub
That's rich
2 Beneficial1 2016-12-07
I'm not the Donald. Besides, look at all the people who think it's fake, why not have a place to prove it instead of disagreeing on this sub. It just a sub of conflict right now. This is a potential solution.
2 whyd_you_kill_doakes 2016-12-07
Then go make another pizzagate sub
Also, go ahead and prove to me that leprechauns don't exist. When you realize you can't because you cannot prove a negative or you cannot prove something does not exist, then apply that same logic to pizzagate.
The burden of proof is on you pizzagate supporters to prove that it's real. It's not on everyone else to prove it's not.
Other things you cannot prove don't exist: God, unicorns, dragons, the tooth fairy, the Easter bunny, santa, and the list goes on.
Edit: this sub is not a soapbox for pizzagate. If you don't like being disagreed with, then stop talking about it. This is a sub for discussion of esoteric subjects. Discussion is usually a back and forth between 2 or more people, not always reaffirming what each other believes, often disagreeing instead.
1 schweinhunde 2016-12-07
You do realize that the burden of proof is on a person making a claim right? If someone doesn't buy into you pizzagate claim it is not up to them to disprove it, it is up to you to prove it.
1 [deleted] 2016-12-07
Dude, you are literally in every fucking thread shitting on pizzagate. Take a nap.
1 whyd_you_kill_doakes 2016-12-07
Literally? Try again
4 Touritaly 2016-12-07
Oh, so you just want a safe place/echo chamber where your ideas can't be challenged?
2 Beneficial1 2016-12-07
No, but right now my ideas aren't being challenged in a productive way. They just get disagreed with.
1 Boomaloomdoom 2016-12-07
You're wrong because you're wrong! THe story is fake obviously! If it were true it wouldn't be false?
"Uhhh...what about the years of evidence around the globe."
The story is fake news! Dont you know fake news when you see it! You're so lucky I'm here for you to inform you.
1 schweinhunde 2016-12-07
I don't know about yours, but on my planet when somebody disagrees with my ideas those ideas are challenged.
3 [deleted] 2016-12-07
It's called r/politics.
1 Beneficial1 2016-12-07
Ok, then why do they come here and bitch when they are disagreed with? It's trolling.
Instead of derailing threads, there can be their own space to bitch.
1 [deleted] 2016-12-07
Go ahead and try to organize that. Go be pizzagate Anonymous subreddit mod.
1 yellowsnow2 2016-12-07
I agree, all these new posts asking the same questions without even looking at the posts on the front page is getting kind of annoying.
1 Beneficial1 2016-12-07
It could be better organised. Again, with so much interest and disagreement the organization and information is getting distorted. If there is this much interest there could be a faq stickied for a major topic such as this.
1 nottheoretical 2016-12-07
Well the problem is, a good amount of those people are paid to be here opposing those who are investigating, so they won't be going anywhere.
0 Beneficial1 2016-12-07
Then a simple redirect could end a discussion that would otherwise turn into a circle jerk.
1 NaughtyHealer 2016-12-07
Nah it is good for them to be here. If one of them actually has a good point to make, then we need it in order to refine our theories accordingly. Don't want to have an echo chamber and all of the problems that come with it. Most of them just sound retarded and make no points at all, so why not have such shining examples of our critics here for all to see.
1 fingerbang_fun 2016-12-07
Web warfare.
1 ViciousCycle 2016-12-07
/r/pizzatard
1 LingLing_NorthKorea 2016-12-07
We have the default subs, which can substitute for fake garbage spam.
1 Nigle 2016-12-07
I don't think you understand what a toll is. It isn't someone who has a different opinion and tries to have a discussion about the topic with you. That isn't a shill, a troll, or a paid ctr representative. It is literally just someone of a different opinion, most of the time just looking for answers and compelling information, not Hey this is weird.
1 redditeditard 2016-12-07
The thing I find most damning is the pizza map, assuming map actually means a physical map. When does a map become irrelevant and not needing to be returned? When a location keeps changing! Pedophilia ritual sites aren't going to remain the same unless it is extremely difficult to access. It's not like it's bingo night, when you go every Thursday.