r/conspiracy: Every person shitting on PG in the large PG thread are mis-equating "evidence" with "proof". They are asking for evidence but demanding proof.

Every person shitting on PG in the large PG thread are mis-equating "evidence" with "proof". They are asking for evidence but demanding proof.

32 2016-12-07 by TheWiredWorld

Remember, the reality is the evidence and HISTORY is on Pizzagate's side. At this point, anyone who denies pizzagate needs to atleast answer why an investigation hasn't taken place. You would need less evidence to get the cops to investigate a random person on your friends list on facebook.

And there are documentaries, scrubbed aricles, and tons of leaks by victims since the 70s and 80s.

Also, something they like to use as a defense is the democrat republican angle (yes, shills truly are Satan's spawn), so I think we should highlight republicans involved so they can see how non partisan this is.

27 comments

10 joe_jaywalker 2016-12-07

Some people feel the need to counter-signal against all conspiracy theories. They think it gives them social status to believe every official government and mainstream media account of every single thing. It's really quite bizarre actually.

7 huktheavenged 2016-12-07

tribal mindset-our leaders are better than yours......

5 Blackdebby 2016-12-07

Nobody wants to be seen as crazy.

1 elnegroik 2016-12-07

"It isn't enough for people to know- they have to know that everyone else knows"

5 911bodysnatchers322 2016-12-07

I call them blue-ribbon deputies (every blue ribbon group sent in by any president has been a coverup group)

5 Boomaloomdoom 2016-12-07

They're trying to distract//discredit//dissuade. They won't be logical. They will make you feel dumb. That's what they're here to do.

5 911bodysnatchers322 2016-12-07

He's right. It's a state tactic of forum spies: 4D's -- deny, disrupt, degrade, deceive

TheIntercept_ published the foundational article, "How Covert Agents Infiltrate the Internet to Manipulate, Deceive, and Destroy Reputations", that everyone references on this topic. If you haven't read it, you really should. It will blow your mind.

1 SovereignMan 2016-12-07

Among the core self-identified purposes of JTRIG are two tactics: (1) to inject all sorts of false material onto the internet in order to destroy the reputation of its targets; and (2) to use social sciences and other techniques to manipulate online discourse and activism to generate outcomes it considers desirable.

The people skeptical of the pizzagate theory are not the ones 'injecting false material onto the internet in order to destroy the reputation of its targets'. They are the ones suggesting that the pizzagate theory is the false material. If anything, it's a JTRIG type tactic to push the pizzagate "theory". The skeptics are... well, skeptical of it.

In my opinion, in the case of pizzagate JTRIG has been very successful so far.

1 TheWiredWorld 2016-12-07

Nonsense, noone made Epstein a child molester, noone made child missing cases an epidemic that noone talks about, noone makes those associated with Epstein continue to be with him, noone made up the known symbolic code like "cheese pizza", and "hot dog" stands in Hawaii, and noone WANTED to make Conspiracy of Silence, or "Boys For Sale".

So was the rampant Catholic Church's pedophilia not happening until there was PROOF? Was it likr Schroedinger's pedo's? It wasn't happening until there was definitive proof?

Listen, if you are not a reputation management agent, which I'm gonna say I don't think you are, what do you think you are accomplishing by not allowing an investigation to occur in spite of all the evidence you are denying?

People from as far back as the 70s have stated something is going on, LONG before Twitter likes and follows were a thing. We know pederasty has gone on for thousands of years.

1 SovereignMan 2016-12-07

known symbolic code like "cheese pizza", and "hot dog"

It's only "known" because one person posted on a forum what they claimed was an (unverified) FBI document showing such alleged "code".

All the rest of what you say I agree with. I'm not denying any of that and it should continue to be investigated whenever it rears it's ugly head. But the pizza = pedophilia hoax has nothing to do with any of that. It's sole purpose is to discredit alt news sources through the use of highly emotional subject matter.

That is my own personal opinion and should not be interpreted to mean the entire mod team agrees with it. Some are beginning to though.

1 Boomaloomdoom 2016-12-07

Whoops got my D's wrong thx mang

2 ignorantsumbish 2016-12-07

"they are" also totally ok to ignore

2 911bodysnatchers322 2016-12-07

We will accept nothing short of photos of perps clearly depicting their penises inside of a child while holding up newspapers whose publication date is matched with that of CNN's on the tv in the background, where the photo is verified as authentic by a blue-ribbon smithsonian team of forensic investigators, after of course, the discoverer of the photo is given multiple polygraphs, including one under an MRI and evaluated by nonpartisan forensic neuropsychologists employed by europol

--all shutdown trolls, everywhere

1 zarniwoot 2016-12-07

because a crime has been committed before it means anyone can accuse anyone of any crime, and it must be investigated, because, hey, it happened before, why not now?

You would need less evidence to get the cops to investigate

It is basically impossible to have less evidence of a crime. You have not one shred of anything. You have infographics and youtube videos with no content that is illegal, even in the slightest. What are they going to investigate? Whether Alefantis lied about having a basement? Whether Majestic Ape is a shit band?

3 TheWiredWorld 2016-12-07

There is plenty of evidence of which none you will come close to acknowledging. Also, you are just rail roading through the point of the post: you are asking for evidence but demanding proof. In a typical murder case, muddy foot prints are by no means proof of a crime, but it certainly is evidence. You are saying "HAH, PEOPLE GET MUDDY FEET ALL THE TIME. YOU HAVE NO PROOF SOMEONE WAS MURDERED" - even though there's a missing person AND blood stains.

People with your logic is the reason the Catholic Church pedophilia, of which they have spent billions of dollars dealing with and keeping out of the spotlight, took so long to break.

1 Joeleus 2016-12-07

Ahh I saw that comment before. You replied to me, blaming me for the catholic church's pedophilia as well. But you said it yourself, there's a missing person and bloodstains in a murder case - that's actual evidence.

Since you're such a big fan of semantics. Fine, Pizzagate has a lot of nonsensical evidence that would not allow any police officer to get a warrant. What most people want is some evidence that doesn't amount to weird tastes in art, stupid logos or massively out of context quotes

1 ermahgerddon 2016-12-07

At this point, anyone who denies pizzagate needs to atleast answer why an investigation hasn't taken place.

Maybe not enough people have called the police to report a crime. Have you done this?

-1 lightning_hophead 2016-12-07

I see your point but I think a better question is to ask the people who are pushing the Pizzagate story why an investigation hasn't taken place. You've done all this work, time to take it to the right people and get them on it. For crying out loud, you've had this evidence for months, why are you all slacking?

3 TheWiredWorld 2016-12-07

https://www.youtube.com/shared?ci=FFH3V831g0c

There is a talk/documentary about child prostitution as far back as the 1980s, focused partly around the Houston area.

Part of what they talk about is that the very partakers of this venture are not necessarily criminals but the pillars of society. They are often not investigated because, essentially, too many rammifications are possible that go as far as resuming normal operation of local, state, or even Federal government.

So the answer to your inquiry, why people who are pushing it haven't asked, is that they have and that's why.

Is it so strange to think that powerful people might get together and have a plan?

2 lightning_hophead 2016-12-07

"Is it so strange to think that powerful people might get together and have a plan?"

No not at all. I'm aware of many previous instances of this. Human Trafficking in all forms is a horrible thing, in my opinion, and I know its happened and is happening. That's not what I'm saying.

-1 fyrefox45 2016-12-07

That still doesn't change the fact that in this case you have as your most credible "evidence" something like 2 or 3 emails.

1 TheWiredWorld 2016-12-07

And multiple witnesses, victims, multiple documentaries, connections exposed by journalists, oh and the FACT that these people STILL hang with Epstein.

1 911bodysnatchers322 2016-12-07

I don't think you understand yet that our system has aborted justice. It is the wild west out there, and until Trump stands down the continuity of government state of emergency, nothing will happen to them. As it is, the constitution has been superceded, and that's why the DOJ and FBI haven't done anything. They are waiting. The moment the state of emergency ends, obama and clinton will go to jail along with comey and then all these pedo people will be running scared. Make no mistake, clinton and obama committed high treason, and if they didn't, then there should be an international tribunal to consider if the US president can have the authority to participate in international espionage himself, including psychological abuse of 350M people, edit (and wholesale murdered many million innocents), because that's what he did. He is not an emperor. There are laws and he must himself submit to them.

-4 fyrefox45 2016-12-07

You most certainly don't have any evidence. Evidence would point to a crime, but you can't point to a crime or a victim or even a location where a crime occured, just a nebulous gesture they're either occultists (not illegal) or pedos (only illegal with a victim or stash of CP). You have leads that you're following at best.

2 CredAndBercuses 2016-12-07

Again, that's proof you're asking for.

1 podesta_the_molesta 2016-12-07

Evidence would point to a crime,

Pedophilia and human trafficking

but you can't point to a crime or a victim

Victims are brainwashed or killed

or even a location where a crime occured,

Comet pizzas #murderroom, John pedestas house, hell even the white house flew out 65k in hotdogs