Things you must keep in mind, when researching #Pizzagate

24  2016-12-10 by [deleted]

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'Straight from the horse's mouth'

once again, thank you.

So, setting up such an operation in the heart of our nations capital makes strategic sense? Washington DC is one of the most expensive places in America to live.

If they're looking for kids who can be taken easily don't you think there are better choices? Seems to me that picking an urban location with a large and racially diverse population of poor would be better.

"If they're looking for kids who can be taken easily don't you think there are better choices? Seems to me that picking an urban location with a large and racially diverse population of poor would be better" Who says it does not happen in other places?

And who, really, says that it happened there?

Is there even a shed of actual evidence?

How about a witness, an escaped victim, an outraged whistle blower?

Anything?

The election is over. The campaign to smear Hillary just had too much momentum. People's imagination is still running in overdrive.

"Now, you have to admit the hours the establishment keeps 5 p.m. to 9+ is not typical for family restaurants; particularly, the restaurants that cater to parents and their children. There are the inappropriate terms and language about children on Facebook and the random reference from a performer, about a certain individual liking young boys. These are all major red flags. That's the thing about theories, especially, conspiracy theories, there is not a large amount of evidence, if any. In the end, it would not be called a conspiracy theory if we had more than just red flags."

A pizza restaurant that is only open for business during dinner and late night is suspicious to you? Lots of restaurants are only open when their particular product is going to sell the best. It's just a strategic business plan.

Did you ever consider the theory that most of their customers are full time college students? People who are at school all day and studying or partying until way late at night. It makes WAY more sense than your theory.

A pizza place is more likely to be a cover for a marijuana delivery service than a covert child sex and or child organ harvesting operation.

Every good theory should have at least a little bit of common sense and maybe even a few facts that are hard to explain otherwise behind it.

Edit - Changed the Wording Slightly

It is the people involved in the establishment that we are looking at and these people are not confined to only this business Yeah, if you cannot see how odd and inappropriate, these things are, then we agree to disagree. On the other hand, maybe you are unaware of certain things that have come out. Nevertheless, if you need substantial evidence, you are going to be disappointed on here; you're on a conspiracy site. Like I said, it's a theory, a conspiracy theory.

Child trafficking has three angles: 1. Sexual abuse and trade, 2 Slave labor. *3. The last is *human organ trafficking*

OK, so is there any verifiable evidence for sexual abuse going on in this pizza place?

Is there any verifiable evidence that children are being sold and traded in this pizza place?

Is there any verifiable evidence that children are being used as slave labor in this pizza place?

Is there any verifiable evidence that human organ trafficking is going on in this pizza place?

The satanic component is only a cover, or another layer; it is a distraction

Is there any verifiable evidence that the Satanists are involved in the sex abuse, child trading, child trafficking, and child slave labor in this pizza place?

for the individuals that are profiting from the murder and exploitation children.

Is there any verifiable evidence that children are being murdered in this pizza place?

Is there any verifiable evidence that this pizza place is profiting off of child sex trafficking murder slave labor organ sales?

When conducting your open-source research, or less than open, keep the information above in mind.

Yup, it's curious that all this activity is going on in such a small little pizza place. How do they manage it all and not have anyone notice in such a small and highly public place?

(You can make more money selling the organs of children, than the children.)

Sure, but just because you can doesn't mean it's actually happening in this pizza place.

A Holocaust can happen, but that also doesn't mean it's happening in my tiny back yard.

It's time to look at the industries and materials, which would be required in human organ trafficking.

Yep, and let's see if this small pizza place has the capability, the floor space, and the manpower to carry this out AND run a successful pizza shop at the same time.

Now, let's see if you can connect the players to them...

Remember, only demonstrable valid evidence is acceptable.

Rumors, here-say, personal blogs, unsubstantiated anecdotal claims, Wikipedia pages, coincidences, personal feelings, and other such nonsense is not valid evidence.

First, "The satanic component is only a cover, or another layer; it is a distraction" Like I said, this is simply a distraction, and I do not think this situation is related to the occult. I never said that the abuse could purely be in this particular establishment. Moreover, that is not how traffickers work. Child abuse happens all the time: one in three girls and one in four boys is sexual abused among other things. It can happen anywhere, even in your backyard.
Child predators are not ill-advised, and they are versatile with grooming the child and the adults around them. However, not all parents are humane, or present and that is when the child is in serious danger.

  1. Now, you have to admit the hours the establishment keeps 5 p.m. to 9+ is not typical for family restaurants; particularly, the restaurants that cater to parents and their children.

  2. There are the inappropriate terms and language about children on Facebook and the random reference from a performer, about a certain individual liking young boys. These are all major red flags.

That's the thing about theories, especially, conspiracy theories, there is not a large amount of evidence, if any. In the end, it would not be called a conspiracy theory if we had more than just red flags.

First, "The satanic component is only a cover, or another layer; it is a distraction" Like I said, this is simply a distraction, and I do not think this situation is related to the occult.

Then why was Satanism even brought up in the first place?

I never said that the abuse could purely be in this particular establishment.

I never said that either, so why are you bringing it up?

Child abuse happens all the time: one in three girls and one in four boys is sexual abused among other things. It can happen anywhere, even in your backyard.

Just because it can happen anywhere tells us absolutely nothing about whether it is actually happening in this pizza place.

Now, you have to admit the hours the establishment keeps 5 p.m. to 9+ is not typical for family restaurants; particularly, the restaurants that cater to parents and their children.

When do families eat dinner? Somewhere around 6pm to 9pm'ish, right? And they're not just strictly for families with young children either. Families with grown children and teenage children are also welcome. And families with no children are also welcome. And individuals are also welcome.

This is completely normal. You should get out more often.

There are the inappropriate terms and language about children on Facebook and the random reference from a performer, about a certain individual liking young boys. These are all major red flags.

This whole sentence of yours is just wonky. The way it reads, you're complaining about random inappropriate terms and language about random children on random Facebook pages that reference random performers. How is any of this relevant to anything?

Or, are you claiming there is inappropriate language about specific young boys made by this specific pizza place itself? If so, please provide the evidence for this.

That's the thing about theories, especially, conspiracy theories, there is not a large amount of evidence, if any.

And that's why they're crap and why people dismiss them. Claims that can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence. If you don't like it, go find some supporting evidence for your claims. Otherwise your claim fails to meet its burden of proof and is not worthy of anyone's time.

BTW, a theory in the science field is not conjecture or opinion. It's a framework that explains all the facts and is contradicted by none of them. A theory is the pinnacle of science.

I was going to reply to everything, until I saw this: "This is completely normal. You should get out more often." and "When do families eat dinner? Somewhere around 6pm to 9pm'ish, right?" "Just because it can happen anywhere tells us absolutely nothing about whether it is actually happening in this pizza place." (Among other things) It is the people involved in the establishment that we are looking at and these people are not confined to only this business Yeah, if you cannot see how odd and inappropriate, these things are, then we agree to disagree. On the other hand, maybe you are unaware of certain things that have come out. Nevertheless, if you need substantial evidence, you are going to be disappointed on here; you're on a conspiracy site.
Like I said, it's a theory, a conspiracy theory.

I was going to reply to everything, until I saw this: "This is completely normal. You should get out more often." and "When do families eat dinner? Somewhere around 6pm to 9pm'ish, right?" "Just because it can happen anywhere tells us absolutely nothing about whether it is actually happening in this pizza place." (Among other things)

Wait. So you were going to reply until you saw that, but you replied anyways?

It is the people involved in the establishment that we are looking at and these people are not confined to only this business

And yet you don't have a shred of evidence that implicates anyone. Guilty until proven innocent seems to be the motto in this sub.

Yeah, if you cannot see how odd and inappropriate, these things are, then we agree to disagree.

Odd and inappropriate is relevant how?

On the other hand, maybe you are unaware of certain things that have come out.

Wow, those things must be so important... for you to neglect citing them.

Nevertheless, if you need substantial evidence, you are going to be disappointed on here; you're on a conspiracy site.

And thus this conspiracy is DOA.

Like I said, it's a theory, a conspiracy theory.

If you don't have evidence, don't get upset when reputable news sources ignore it.

we agree, to disagree.

The disagreement revolves around whether this absurd claim has any evidence to demonstrate that it's true.

And there is none.

"The disagreement revolves around whether this absurd claim has any evidence to demonstrate that it's true." I agree, there is none. However, I am more interested in the red flags and traveling down the rabbit hole. When I say "down the rabbit hole," I mean exploring different possibilities. "If you don't have evidence, don't get upset when reputable news sources ignore it." I am indifferent, to be honest with you.

I agree, there is none.

Which means this conspiracy is dead.

I am more interested in the red flags and traveling down the rabbit hole.

Which is absolutely meaningless as you yourself admitted has no evidence to back any of it up.

When I say "down the rabbit hole," I mean exploring different possibilities.

All the non-evident possibilities? lol

"Which means this conspiracy is dead." No, there are red flags. Like I said before, there is a difference between a conspiracy theory and fact. If a conspiracy had proof, then it would not be a conspiracy theory. I do not understand, why other users exploring this topic pestered you? However, you might be one of the hardcore-evidence types, and I would suggest one of the sciences and/ or law subs on Reddit. You might find that more to your liking.
You might also like this sub /r/conspiracytheories.

No, there are red flags.

Bullshit. Prove it.

Like I said before, there is a difference between a conspiracy theory and fact.

Which is why the conspiracy theory is dead. Demanding evidence is kryptonite to conspiracies.

I do not understand, why other users exploring this topic pestered you?

It's called mental illness. These nuts don't give a shit about truth, facts, or evidence. They're literally just making stuff up about the people they don't like for emotional reasons.

However, you might be one of the hardcore-evidence types, and I would suggest one of the sciences and/ or law subs on Reddit. You might find that more to your liking.

These crazies keep invading and vomiting their nonsense in science and law subreddits.

Nearly everyone here is a gullible chump who believes any claim made so long as it fits what they already feel emotionally. They'll swallow anything, regardless if it's a lie, so long as it fits the narrative they want to believe. Facts and evidence be damned. If you're one of these chumps, then I have a bridge to sell you.

"Demanding evidence is kryptonite to conspiracies."Yeah, because conspiracies are not built on evidence. Red flags are things that people find concerning; I will say, I only see 1-5% of what others posted as a red flag. "If you're one of these chumps, then I have a bridge to sell you." lol "These crazies keep invading and vomiting their nonsense in science and law subreddits." WOW, we could create a conspiracy on that, all its own; thanks for letting me know, no wonder your angry. When did this start?

The bottom line is that you will forever be on the losing end of conversations when you cannot produce evidence for your claims.

"The bottom line is that you will forever be on the losing end of conversations when you cannot produce evidence for your claims" Yeah, because it is a conspiracy theory.

Well, at least you had the courage to admit defeat.

lol, ok. However, I think you may have started a conspiracy theory: "These crazies keep invading and vomiting their nonsense in science and law subreddits."

lol, ok. However, I think you may have started a conspiracy theory: "These crazies keep invading and vomiting their nonsense in science and law subreddits."

Well I never said all conspiracies are false. Some are true when we can demonstrate they're true with solid verifiable evidence.

I'm sure others will disagree with you on that. However, I am now interested in this conspiracy you unknowingly created. Is it really getting that bad, or were you just frustrated?

However, I am now interested in this conspiracy you unknowingly created. Is it really getting that bad, or were you just frustrated?

Both. Mods are squashing them as fast as they keep popping up. And arguing with conspiracy nuts who proudly gloat that they don't care about facts and evidence is frustrating.

What facts and evidence can you provide someone who doesn't care about facts and evidence? There's nothing behind this pizzagate nonsense expect angry emotions and personal bias.

I was in a long argument with one guy who kept claiming there's irrefutable proof, yet when I asked him where this proof is, he claimed it's all "red flags and hunches which is just as good". These are the types of people who will believe anything that fits their emotional narrative and personal biases. These types of people assume guilt and no amount of facts and evidence can prove innocence. It just implicates those providing facts and evidence as "in on it too".

And as a side note, I now have a few new stalkers. Hi stalkers, yo

I hate to tale him/her, but red flags will not fly on a science, or law sub. I will say, I have wrote papers for my Intel class with less suspicions and odd coincidences than pizza gate. So, political science, Intel, etc... has its theories. However, no law enforcement agency in their right mind, would prosecute on this alone. Like you said, not enough evidence.

I hate to tale him/her, but red flags will not fly on a science, or law sub.

Oh I know. It's one thing if there was actually a pedophile ring discovered. Then I could understand the conspiracy links to Clinton and Podesta, but there's not even that. No victims, no blood, no children, no confessions, no basement, no tunnels, no witnesses, nothing.

Now, the basement is undecided.

Anyone who circumcised their son has lost any claim to a moral high ground, when discussing child abuse.

If you are willing to do this to a newborn child, then guess what, YOU, are the paedophile!

Are you serious? What the hell does pizzagate have to do with circumcision? I feel like everyone is trying to attach their own agenda to this thing. Pizza gate has nothing to do with Jews. The Jews did everything meme is stupid.

I never said anything about Jews. And yes circumcision is related to pizza gate as circumcision is legal child abuse.

It's not related to pizzagate at all. You are trying to force a connection.

I already regret having replied to you. Looking through your post history shows that you believe in magic and that people can survive without eating or drinking.

Just read fiction instead. Don't try and combine credible stories with your imaginary fantasies

Thanks