You guys have an actual conspiracy on your hands- Russia hacked the US and deployed information to get its preferred candidate elected- and still all you can talk about is pizza
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11 Vechthaan 2016-12-10
So you're mad people aren't taking the MSM bait? Lel.
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8 bbasara007 2016-12-10
You realize the CIAs official statement on this was no comment and the FBI officially announced they found no russian involvement. You are repeating a false narrative from simple hearsay instead of using your brain and looking up this information yourself.
Also its astounding the amount of effort people out on who leaked this rsther than its contents.
Please wake up fellow patriot, we need you.
4 Pop_Psychology 2016-12-10
The Russians did not hack the election.
There, that's the insight you seek. Seriously, you'd have to be mentally deficient to believe that.
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3 WrathfulClarity 2016-12-10
Are you asking him for evidence that Russia did not hack the election? If so, that's not how it works, you're the one positing the claim, the burden of providing evidence is on you.
2 Knight_of_Cups 2016-12-10
What is your evidence we were hacked by Russia?
Edit: in second thought, dont answer because you already have lower in the thread. You seem like a karma whore after going through your post history. Others have said it in this thread and I agree, you don't seem very knowledgable on certain things. So my real question is, whats the point of your post when it is being discussed elsewhere in this sub?
1 jonnywut 2016-12-10
The incoming asteroid is extremely easy to verify. No need to take anyone's word.
8 ArchonFall4All 2016-12-10
Don't worry, one of your coworkers already started this exact same thread earlier.
If you want proper discussion, then we need strong evidence because these are the same people who lied to us about Iraq. Add in the fact that whistleblowers are telling a very different story, and you can forgive us for being more than a little skeptical
2 Exec99 2016-12-10
Oh my god. Someone gild this comment.
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5 ArchonFall4All 2016-12-10
In a sense you're right, because they did provide "evidence" to lead us into war against Sadam. I guess the main takeaway here is that these people can't be trusted
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4 sh3rog 2016-12-10
Where is the evidence that russia did this?
Oh anonymous leaks discussing a secret cia report?
lol
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4 sh3rog 2016-12-10
ok so you don't have evidence?
TAKE OUT WORD FOR IT
lol read about operation mockingbird and get back to me
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1 sh3rog 2016-12-10
Lol come back to me when you have evidence, not partisan bullshit
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1 sh3rog 2016-12-10
Maybe depends how strong the evidence was, chain of custody and all that. See here's the thing I understand that you obviously don't - attribution of online attacks is damn near impossible if the people doing it are sophisticated enough
3 truthforchange 2016-12-10
To most of us, you materialize as a scheming Eric Cartman (Southpark) like:
In other words, you are very bad at this.
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2 truthforchange 2016-12-10
Solid argument. ;)
2 sh3rog 2016-12-10
You're in conspiracy here...
4 ArchonFall4All 2016-12-10
I'm beginning to question your level of knowledge in these matters, at least as they're discussed here. If you don't know many of the most basic topics we discuss, then what brings you here to talk about the Russian boogeymen?
2 Elmo_Tully 2016-12-10
"Goofed once"... Ever heard of the Gulf of Tonkin?
1 NarwhalStreet 2016-12-10
Osama? The guy that the Taliban offered to hand over if we provided evidence he was in any way involved with 9/11 and cease our bombing of Afghanistan?
1 DrDougExeter 2016-12-10
CIA was against going into Iraq and said they did not have WMD.
2 ArchonFall4All 2016-12-10
Yes, that's true, but I think my point still stands. This anti-Russia narrative is coming from "anonymous sources within the CIA" which means there's no way to verify that this is actually what CIA analysts have determined
Edit to add: and the fact that the Bush administration manufactured evidence contrary to what intelligence analysts were saying is only further proof that these people will do whatever it takes to further their agenda
6 txhaps 2016-12-10
JFK Assassination RFK Assassination MLK Assassination Gulf of Tonkin USS Liberty WMD Iraq Libya Syria Branch Davidian Slaughter OKC Bombing Ruby Ridge WTC Bombing MKULTRA XKEY
Pardon me for not taking "unnamed government sources" at their word. And thanks to Project Mockingbird, I have little faith in mass media control corporations.
5 FloridaMom13 2016-12-10
The "Russia hacking" diversion is so obvious it's stupid.
3 Exec99 2016-12-10
We have evidence of a conspiracy you say? This evidence, coming from the CIA, the most famous "conspiracy" plotters themselves
https://theintercept.com/2016/12/10/anonymous-leaks-to-the-washpost-about-the-cias-russia-beliefs-are-no-substitute-for-evidence/
2 xxf1sh3rxx 2016-12-10
Ok, post some evidence. This is a free and open forum
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1 xxf1sh3rxx 2016-12-10
So the argument here is that Russia uses middlemen for plausible deniability, which would make sense, however, the question remains, is simply releasing email content equal with disrupting or undermining the election? Where does it end, if that is the basis for the conspiracy?
It's been shown that the DNC did take measures to undermine the primaries, are they working in concert with the Russian middlemen as well? The lack of focus on the content of the emails released does not help the credibility of the mainstream media in the broader picture, instead they chose to paint it as a vast Russian conspiracy from the beginning.
Also, if the U.S. government as a whole, without a doubt, believes that Russia had a hand in influencing the election (which they don't), why not impose sanctions on them, like the above paragraph suggests?
2 Adam_Hashian 2016-12-10
Here's some insight:
Even if they did, who cares? Do you want to go to war with Russia? Is Russia an economic powerhouse? Has the US ever tampered in other elections? Were there not other countries besides Russia tampering? Why is the CIA making this public? If Trump is supposedly "their candidate" why does it matter? Should we ignore a potential global pedophilia ring because "Russia"? Are there Russians implicated in pizzagate? Is Pizzagate a partisan issue? Has spacex nuetered Russian rockets and economics? Can we send people to space without Russia yet?
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4 ArchonFall4All 2016-12-10
And so is launching over a decade of wars based on fake intel
1 GoddessWins 2016-12-10
It is a perfect distraction and the support for the imaginary tale is at least 95% faked up and serves the dual purpose of drawing ridicule to any people who are monitoring the real conspiracy against us.
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1 GoddessWins 2016-12-10
Right, pizza is the distraction, and so disrespectful and dismissive and all fake from A to Z.
1 Armaedus 2016-12-10
The likelihood that Russia "influenced" the elections is as likely as me magically waking up tomorrow with an extra 6 inches on my dick.
1 DrDougExeter 2016-12-10
But how many people were here in this sub before the election crying scared because they thought it was about to be WW3 with russia? A lot.
1 Armaedus 2016-12-10
All I'm gonna say is this. This "muh Russian conspiracy" bullshit is nothing more than an Alinsky tactic of the left. It's what they do. ALWAYS. When they are caught wearing no clothes they deflect the blame. Because it is Hillary and her ilk that are the ones trying to undermine the integrity of this Republic. Not Russia.
1 nisaaru 2016-12-10
Even in the unlikely event this isn't just fake CIA "news" why are you so concerned?
Look on the bright side it might have prevented WW3 which Clinton promised and you aren't getting a permanent boozed Yelzin clone like the one the USA installed in Russia to rob their assets.
1 jaydwalk 2016-12-10
Didn't Snowden and Assange confirm it wasn't Russia that provided the information?
1 jonnywut 2016-12-10
Everyone knows if you hack dirt on Democrats, it's entirely unacceptable to not hack dirt on an equal number of Republicans.
1 KingJames19 2016-12-10
Politics is such a ridiculous smoke screen. Who the fuck cares about this nonsense? Don't get caught up in pizzagate because the MSM is making shit up about Russia for the 20th time since the primaries. This is lowbrow shit
0 Exec99 2016-12-10
The methods of Cass Sunstein and cognitive infiltration
-1 Skybluvalleykid 2016-12-10
We don't follow that narrative.
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3 Elmo_Tully 2016-12-10
This is not a partisan political issue.
1 DrDougExeter 2016-12-10
But how many people were here in this sub before the election crying scared because they thought it was about to be WW3 with russia? A lot.