Convince me pizzagate is legit
1 2016-12-14 by Davidskis21
Hey everyone! I'm just your average, media believing (mostly) American citizen. I stumbled across this forum and saw all this stuff about pizzagate. I did a little research and it all seems pretty ridiculous. However, I believe myself to be open about things and you guys seem pretty convinced, so convince me that pizzagate is real, and give me some proof. Thanks!
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5 Davidskis21 2016-12-14
I'm not a troll, I'm genuinely curious, if you don't want to waste you time, don't respond. I figured that since the goal of this reddit is to get people to believe this stuff, then some users would enjoy trying to convince me. You're the one who is wasting your time.
4 aleister 2016-12-14
I think you have the wrong idea about what this sub is for. You can find a nice summary at the pizzagate part of voat.
1 SovereignMan 2016-12-14
Rule 10. No personal attacks. Removed. 1st warning.
10 mastigia 2016-12-14
These are links I have been saving as I went along. There is no definitive proof, so if you are looking for that you will be disappointed. Have fun catching up:
My personal favorite infographic on Podesta's art preferences, and other weird behavior: https://i.sli.mg/Chk4Af
Then just a bunch of links, I don't remember what made me save them exactly, but they are all related to PG.
https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/1cm0t3/original_research_the_mountain_of_evidence_for_a/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUGj5IhepMg https://web.archive.org/web/20161122041513/https://www.reddit.com/r/pizzagate/comments/5da0kp/comet_ping_pong_pizzagate_summary/ https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/5f90af/evidencebacked_allegations_all_pizza_leads_to/ https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/5g3ywi/for_pizzagate_skeptics/ https://youtu.be/MdP8R7YMiqE http://archive.is/MrsGu https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3m87-hM96o https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/5dwb3n/to_the_failing_nyt_readers_here_is_a_clear_list/ https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/5dfz8m/qatar_podesta_koons_a_royal_family_of_kiddy/ http://is.4chan.org/pol/1479367965477.png https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AY-F5JoHoho http://themillenniumreport.com/2016/11/huge-breakthrough-in-d-c-pedophilia-ring/ https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/5b1qtf/comet_ping_pong_pizzagate_summary/
2 Davidskis21 2016-12-14
Thanks! these will be fun study breaks :)
1 PM_me_contradictions 2016-12-14
Yes, Posesta's paintings are telling af
0 mastigia 2016-12-14
Anyone who says those aren't obvious and disturbing as fuck is being paid to say it or fucks kids themselves.
4 Ninjakick666 2016-12-14
What did your research consist of... I'm guessing... a google search of the word pizzagate... and thats it?
1 Davidskis21 2016-12-14
Yup, it was all stuff about how it's debunked, that's why I wanted to hear the other side of the story.
5 Ninjakick666 2016-12-14
I'm just saying that a skim reading of the frontpage of Google doesn't count as "research" around these parts.
2 Davidskis21 2016-12-14
Ya ik ik, I'm just new to this, so i figured I could waste a bunch of time trying to find good sources, or just ask you guys for a quick head start.
-3 kingpen_1 2016-12-14
don't waste your time bro it's fake.
1 aleister 2016-12-14
I bet I can guess some of your hobbies.
2 GoldenGod86 2016-12-14
So you think a bunch of reddit, 4chan and youtube links are better? This whole bullshit story was started on 4chan. At least there is an admission here that there is NO PROOF, anywhere.
4 tamrix 2016-12-14
Watch some of the many videos on YouTube.
4 KingJames19 2016-12-14
Read.
4 austenten 2016-12-14
Another commenter is right, to begin, you need to break your way of thinking first (without coming across as condescending of course!):
Search and read these terms (because I'll give ya this, you don't know what you don't know, so how could you search and find the truth?). I'll give you a solid headstart:
Then you'll be able to piece together what is actually happening. To see that P1zz@G@t3 has been happening for hundreds of years among our elites and national "leaders", you need to see a much higher perspective because you will begin to see that not only is it possible, it actually appears to be a way of life for them.
If you get through most of the above, you could also watch Mark Passio's long winded presentations on Natural Law (former satanist).
Trey Gowdy (Congressman) once asked a bunch of University convocation goers:
Very few say truth over freedom, why is that?
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5 austenten 2016-12-14
Oh also, I should warned you, uh ha.
Once you research enough, you'll probably reach an emotional point where you will realize everything is true, and you might come close to a nervous breakdown. I'm not exaggerating, take it easy and just remember to think about the bigger picture if you do go through that.
Everything balances everything else out, there's a reason for every event, including you visiting this sub-reddit and getting exposed to this info.
4 austenten 2016-12-14
Glad to help point you in many directions - haha.
Here's a recent bonus thread just posted to this sub. ...connecting the CF to a kidnapping in Columbia.
4 star_particles 2016-12-14
Do research. Fuck man. I hate these posts. U think we come here just to be told what's true. No. it's like minded individuals who fact check. Research into things and do critical thinking. No one is going to make u believe anything. U have to research it for your self. And talk about a easy research such as pizza gate. If u don't know how to research. Start now. Times never been better.
I'm sorry but it's sad to see people make posts like this. "Hey guys I'm pretty much just lazy and don't want to do anything for my self because of cultural conditioning. Can u change my mind without me using mine?"
It's ridiculous
1 csun723 2016-12-14
There's an unreasonable amount of posts saying "Hey guys! Teach me why pizza gate is legit xD hurrdurr"
Just watxh one fucking video on YouTube with a decent amount of views and you will understand.
3 star_particles 2016-12-14
It's about critical thinking. They are still half asleep or something.
1 bernitallup 2016-12-14
Try to be patient. The vast majority of people are still asleep, and it's a good sign if people actually show some curiosity or hints of openness. It is a lot to take in and completely shatters your worldview. We've all been there at some point, and that turning point and some based helpful strangers can be key to opening up people to what's really going on.
3 Claypot 2016-12-14
I can't. You must open yourself to the rabbit hole first. Once you do you come to terms of what you actually know, which is very little. The corruption goes so fucking deep, you must figure that out for yourself.
Secret pedo rings do exist in our government this is a fact. You can believe it or not but it doesn't change the fact. How far and what extent they go, no one knows except the people involved.
1 Davidskis21 2016-12-14
Can you give me some links to look into to introduce me to this? or at least point me in the right direction, I'm genuinely curious.
4 NaughtyHealer 2016-12-14
https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/1cm0t3/original_research_the_mountain_of_evidence_for_a/
You will need to put the comments in order by sorting by oldest as the OP continues their writing in response comments. This post was made 3 years ago, so this post was not made in response to the pizzagate conspiracy theory, but rather people have been researching into the problem of child trafficking already for years.
3 seank11 2016-12-14
While this is completely unrelated to pizzagate, it is definitely a step down the rabbit hole.
http://www.europhysicsnews.org/articles/epn/pdf/2016/04/epn2016474p21.pdf
This is an article in a physics journal using evidence, along with physics to show that during 9/11 the towers were in fact brought down by controlled demolition.
There is a lot of other "proof" that 9/11 was an inside job that is just comically wrong, but the results in this article are sound.
This should be a good step towards the rabbit hole.
I have a physics degree and an MBA, so I prefer to link to hard evidence to open peoples minds rather than blast them with circumstantial evidence that makes them think we are all "tin foil hat" people.
Let me know what you think of the article :)
3 ArchonFall4All 2016-12-14
There are a lot of differing opinions here. Some people think it's BS, some think it's worth investigating further, and others are convinced that these people are involved in pedophilia and ritual abuse.
I would provide you a link to a compilation of the evidence so that you can make up your own mind, but Reddit is now shadowbanning any links to Voat. Proof is in this thread
1 Davidskis21 2016-12-14
Thanks man
3 csun723 2016-12-14
One ten minute video showing me the symbolism and pedo-related imagery found in the personal lives of some of the involved people was enough to make me believe that something is up.
Add onto that stuff like Savile in the UK, who was protected by ex-BBC exec and current NYT exec, it makes me believe that there should be an actual government investigation. It would not hurt to investigate, as there is more than enough reason to suspect illegal activity. The fact That MSM so brazenly denies all of it makes it all even more suspicious, knowing that the media is owned and run by the elite of the elite.
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3 csun723 2016-12-14
I was in your position last week but I knew even less. Something prompted me to see what this pizzagate was all about. I thought it was just some reddit conspiracy that had no weight. Then I became morbidly curious about it... The more you research the more disturbing it becomes. It's just incredibly abnormal behavior. Even if there weren't the suspicious emails leaked from John Podesta, there is a disturbing amount of paedophilic imagery and connections you can make...
Like, you've seen Joe Biden being seemingly creepy with children, the whispering in their ear, making them visibly uncomfortable? Not saying that he's a pedophile, but it's something...
If you have finals to study for I implore you to get completely done with that first. This stuff is disturbing and occupied my mind for a bit.
2 Butwholebandit 2016-12-14
I would love to be convinced as well. That was the extent of my research. I don't claim to be an expert. That's why I'm looking for help. I would love a straight through narrative.
2 lazaplaya5 2016-12-14
I'm just going to list a bunch of coincidences:
Norway arrest 51 in an elite pedophile ring (shortly after donations from Norway to the Clinton Foundation drop 90%!)
The New York Times, Washington Post, and ABC News all deleted their articles on the Norwegian pedophile ring on the same day (a few days ago).
1000's of pedophiles were openly posting child porn on Twitter, instead of banning those accounts Twitter actually bans the accounts that are calling them out.
The current CEO of the NYT is Mark Thompson, the same Mark Thompson who covered up Jimmy Savile's pedophilia for YEARS
Andrew Breitbart was murdered after claiming John Podesta is a child-trafficker in 2012 before any of these emails or other stories were released. (The coroner who examined his body died of arsenic poisoning)
Australian 60 minutes released an episode exposing an elite child trafficking ring (Involving some Americans too)
Do you want more? Cause I got more, lots more...
2 Majnum 2016-12-14
If there are sufficient evidence Why downvote these past? It could be a way to show the evidence
2 ILOVEYABADMOMO 2016-12-14
I'm not saying it's directly connected to the whole conspiracy revolving around the wikileaks, but if you look at the NCMEC statistics for Virginia and compare them to California, questions will arise
1 MSparta 2016-12-14
This is a good read to the same question, kinda at least
https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/5icmku/what_exactly_is_the_evidence_for_pizzagate/db75nd8/
1 johnraaa 2016-12-14
https://youtu.be/Z4OP--ZXOjc
1 logga 2016-12-14
Oh my god, prepare for an onslaught. I'm outta here.
1 BrowncoatsUnite 2016-12-14
Note that there are some here that are very skeptical of it and politely explaining that it's all speculation and innuendo.
Then there are those that believe in it that tell you they hate this kind of post and for you to "fuck off" and do your own research.
That simple fact alone should give you a pretty good idea of what's really going on with "pizzagate".
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2 BrowncoatsUnite 2016-12-14
I've thought right from the very beginning that it was one giant troll by TPTB to discredit all conspiracy theories and all alternate news sites (that believe it) in order to push the "fake news" agenda, which just happened to start at the same time.
1 SoupGFX 2016-12-14
Make up your own damn mind. Do research on your own. Believe or don't believe. Just remember though... Ask why so many people in high places are spending so much time to make sure this doesn't get any bigger than it already is.
1 WhenYouCloseYourEyes 2016-12-14
keep in mind: half of the conspiracy is the that media is trying SO HARD to quickly call this debunked and excuse all this scathing information as innocent and just quickly sweep it under the rug.
whenever you hear the term "fake news" - they are trying to discredit wikileaks and the pizzagate / spirit cooking investigation and at the same time blame Russia.
pizzagate is NOT about an supposed underground murder tunnel under a pizza restuarant - it is the bigger picture: a global pedophile and human trafficking ring used to blackmail leaders and politicians, and so much more depending on how far you want to go down the rabbit hole.
make sure to read the FBIanon threads
https://i.redd.it/ynodxgz96jux.png
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5 Ninjakick666 2016-12-14
The "shot" and the AR-15 are a big lie... and so is the actor they sent in there.
0 kingpen_1 2016-12-14
exactly--the whole thing was a set up to bring about censorship.
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1 THE_LORD_HERESY 2016-12-14
This man gets it.
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1 THE_LORD_HERESY 2016-12-14
Indeed. Those people are monetizing it and people are buying into it. Follow the money and you'll see the truth for what it is.
0 kingpen_1 2016-12-14
exactly--the whole thing was a set up to bring about censorship.