How is it a psy op getting people to actually care more about their own country than international bullshit. Putin is a nationalist, he cares more if you attack russia than anything else "what is rightfully russian". Ukraine should give a shit about russia but the US shouldn't. You are part of the problem with the do-gooder society. Russia doesn't give a fuck about a country whos nukes are already pointed at them. But i think the psy-op is the US establishment pretending that he does give a damn and that we "need a reason to nuke". The US sticks their dicks in so many stupid places, iraq, syria, libya and the damage is done to others but I don't see people screaming psy-op on that shit no, they don't care about the millions being killed or displaced, all they give a shit about is how someone is a woman hater because they didnt vote for hillary or a racist, or a homophobe. Not WHAT THE FUCK IS OUT GOVERNMENT DOING TO THESE POOR COUNTRIES. Note: I am not from USA, but I can see what your government does to others, I see it every day. Complaining about russians is just another bullshit excuse to hurt people.
Why is it only a problem when Russia does it? Israel is by far the largest single backer of american politics but nobody ever cries foul about that while they run an apartheid state.
Do me a favor - try doing something illegal then say you didn't realize you were doing anything wrong. If they let you walk then Hillary is innocent as well. If not, then why the fuck is she special?
You clearly don't come here often if you don't even understand the reference to the Clinton Body count. While none of it is hard, confirmed evidence connecting the Clinton's directly to murder, there are dozens of mysterious or suspicious deaths and "suicides" involving people close to the Clinton machine, typically those going against them.
I highly recommend that you take some time and actually poke around this sub, and look at the information (personally) that has awoken as many people as it has. Before you just write the entire sub off as crazy, you may find some things that don't sit right even with you.
This sub's distrust of the CIA (and FBI for that matter, personally I'm not even sure what they are doing right now), mainstream media, and the elites in general did not come simply from "crazy fake news conspiracy theories". Just simply re-learning US history accurately will open your eyes to a lot of the themes and ideas currently seen here on r/conspiracy.
All I am asking is that you actually look into it for yourself.
Edit: http://www.infowars.com/the-clinton-body-count/ (Now I know this is InfoWars, and I don't like them all that much either. But this list is very long, and the deaths and connections are easily verifiable if you just look them up yourself.
Aside from terrible foreign policy including Benghazi, the Clintons have been surrounded by the largest number of suicides and heart attacks of any politicians I can think of. Seth Rich and Monica Peterson are just potentially the latest on a very very long list. But surely its all just a coincidence.
I mean, you didn't really provide any evidence for your little russian psyop theory here - i see more evidence that would support our government lying about this, rather than evidence supporting legitimate russian involvement
I'm not saying you are wrong - we are in the middle of an information war right now; if we had more info, we would know exactly what the story is. But we don't, which is why we have like 5000 different conspiracy theories. But based on the info we have, your scenario is just as likely as many other scenarios, but I am personally leaning more towards our incompetent government is trying to cover some shit up and is trying to interfere with a power transition. Makes more sense to me, and feels more strongly evidenced
Thanks - hopefully our country resolves this. We are wasting valuable time energy and resources on petty shit that could all literally be going towards making the world a better place
I'm not stating that I'm right, as I don't have any answers (none of us do really).
What I am stating though, is that there is far more evidence to suggest that the MSM lies to the people on behalf of TPTB, than there is to suggest that the DNC leaks came from Russia and that they are telling you the truth this time.
The email leak exposed the DNC rigging the primary against Bernie and other corruptions.
Why is this bad? Why should we hate whistleblowers? Why should we be mad or scared that the truth was exposed? It matters not who exposed it, even though the Russia thing is the most obvious propaganda ever.
Another testament to the fact that at the ground level, it becomes more convoluted the deeper we dig. Try this for size OP, take all that you hear with a grain of salt.
No one is on "Russia's side" though. If anything, we are on Julian Assange's side. The dude hasn't been wrong in the 10 years since founding Wikileaks, nor has he ever before acted in a way that benefited Russia. What motive would he have to lie to the people about his sources and cover Russia's ass? It just makes absolutely zero sense to me.
If you haven't seen it yet, I suggest you check out the interview he did yesterday with Sean Hannity. SUPER interesting. Listen for yourself, and just see what you think (rather than listen to the MSM tell you that he's just a lying rapist).
Aside from terrible foreign policy including Benghazi, the Clintons have been surrounded by the largest number of suicides and heart attacks of any politicians I can think of. Seth Rich and Monica Peterson are just potentially the latest on a very very long list. But surely its all just a coincidence.
Do me a favor - try doing something illegal then say you didn't realize you were doing anything wrong. If they let you walk then Hillary is innocent as well. If not, then why the fuck is she special?
You clearly don't come here often if you don't even understand the reference to the Clinton Body count. While none of it is hard, confirmed evidence connecting the Clinton's directly to murder, there are dozens of mysterious or suspicious deaths and "suicides" involving people close to the Clinton machine, typically those going against them.
I highly recommend that you take some time and actually poke around this sub, and look at the information (personally) that has awoken as many people as it has. Before you just write the entire sub off as crazy, you may find some things that don't sit right even with you.
This sub's distrust of the CIA (and FBI for that matter, personally I'm not even sure what they are doing right now), mainstream media, and the elites in general did not come simply from "crazy fake news conspiracy theories". Just simply re-learning US history accurately will open your eyes to a lot of the themes and ideas currently seen here on r/conspiracy.
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11 Passthetzatziki 2016-12-16
How is it a psy op getting people to actually care more about their own country than international bullshit. Putin is a nationalist, he cares more if you attack russia than anything else "what is rightfully russian". Ukraine should give a shit about russia but the US shouldn't. You are part of the problem with the do-gooder society. Russia doesn't give a fuck about a country whos nukes are already pointed at them. But i think the psy-op is the US establishment pretending that he does give a damn and that we "need a reason to nuke". The US sticks their dicks in so many stupid places, iraq, syria, libya and the damage is done to others but I don't see people screaming psy-op on that shit no, they don't care about the millions being killed or displaced, all they give a shit about is how someone is a woman hater because they didnt vote for hillary or a racist, or a homophobe. Not WHAT THE FUCK IS OUT GOVERNMENT DOING TO THESE POOR COUNTRIES. Note: I am not from USA, but I can see what your government does to others, I see it every day. Complaining about russians is just another bullshit excuse to hurt people.
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3 fyrefox45 2016-12-16
Why is it only a problem when Russia does it? Israel is by far the largest single backer of american politics but nobody ever cries foul about that while they run an apartheid state.
10 Sapperskrall 2016-12-16
This post is a psyop.
8 thetruthful 2016-12-16
Why should I believe the CIA over the FBI?
9 ArchonFall4All 2016-12-16
The FBI is working for Putin! Come on, has the CIA ever done anything wrong? We should totally trust them
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7 ArchonFall4All 2016-12-16
A rational person would take logic based on its own merit, not by appeals to emotion.
3 AssNasty 2016-12-16
He's not wrong. How many coups has the cia lied about being part of for the last 50 years again?
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8 libbylibertarian 2016-12-16
On that we can agree. Hillary Clinton should be in jail.
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8 fyrefox45 2016-12-16
The email server at a minimum. There's also the rather large body count
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6 Sapperskrall 2016-12-16
Do me a favor - try doing something illegal then say you didn't realize you were doing anything wrong. If they let you walk then Hillary is innocent as well. If not, then why the fuck is she special?
3 DontTreadOnMe16 2016-12-16
That's a great point.
5 DontTreadOnMe16 2016-12-16
You clearly don't come here often if you don't even understand the reference to the Clinton Body count. While none of it is hard, confirmed evidence connecting the Clinton's directly to murder, there are dozens of mysterious or suspicious deaths and "suicides" involving people close to the Clinton machine, typically those going against them.
I highly recommend that you take some time and actually poke around this sub, and look at the information (personally) that has awoken as many people as it has. Before you just write the entire sub off as crazy, you may find some things that don't sit right even with you.
This sub's distrust of the CIA (and FBI for that matter, personally I'm not even sure what they are doing right now), mainstream media, and the elites in general did not come simply from "crazy fake news conspiracy theories". Just simply re-learning US history accurately will open your eyes to a lot of the themes and ideas currently seen here on r/conspiracy.
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1 DontTreadOnMe16 2016-12-16
All I am asking is that you actually look into it for yourself.
Edit: http://www.infowars.com/the-clinton-body-count/ (Now I know this is InfoWars, and I don't like them all that much either. But this list is very long, and the deaths and connections are easily verifiable if you just look them up yourself.
1 fyrefox45 2016-12-16
Aside from terrible foreign policy including Benghazi, the Clintons have been surrounded by the largest number of suicides and heart attacks of any politicians I can think of. Seth Rich and Monica Peterson are just potentially the latest on a very very long list. But surely its all just a coincidence.
1 AssNasty 2016-12-16
Sending Chris Stevens to his death by arranging escorts with connections to Al Queda?
Not to mention all of the pay to play with her Foundation.
1 DontTreadOnMe16 2016-12-16
Do you have a source on this? Just tried looking it up and didn't see any good sources. Sounds very interesting though, would love to learn more.
2 AssNasty 2016-12-16
I actually read it in r/ conspiracy and made the hullabaloo around Benghazi more sense. It's been a while though, may take me a day.
7 PortOfDenver 2016-12-16
I don't believe your 'either/or' false choice psy-op.
I don't buy Republicans, Democrats or Wikileaks.
And I certainly don't buy FBI or CIA.
3 LAcumDodgers 2016-12-16
You are an idiot
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2 RJS83 2016-12-16
Sometimes a counterpoint isn't necessary when you can nullify an argument with the obvious.
3 The_Watterboy 2016-12-16
I mean, you didn't really provide any evidence for your little russian psyop theory here - i see more evidence that would support our government lying about this, rather than evidence supporting legitimate russian involvement
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7 The_Watterboy 2016-12-16
"Its the entire situation" is not evidence.
I'm not saying you are wrong - we are in the middle of an information war right now; if we had more info, we would know exactly what the story is. But we don't, which is why we have like 5000 different conspiracy theories. But based on the info we have, your scenario is just as likely as many other scenarios, but I am personally leaning more towards our incompetent government is trying to cover some shit up and is trying to interfere with a power transition. Makes more sense to me, and feels more strongly evidenced
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2 The_Watterboy 2016-12-16
Thanks - hopefully our country resolves this. We are wasting valuable time energy and resources on petty shit that could all literally be going towards making the world a better place
1 DontTreadOnMe16 2016-12-16
You know what happens when you assume?
1 AssNasty 2016-12-16
Large assumption brah. Proof please.
3 DontTreadOnMe16 2016-12-16
The mainstream media are the ones who have mastered the art of propaganda, and you are proof that it works.
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2 DontTreadOnMe16 2016-12-16
I'm not stating that I'm right, as I don't have any answers (none of us do really).
What I am stating though, is that there is far more evidence to suggest that the MSM lies to the people on behalf of TPTB, than there is to suggest that the DNC leaks came from Russia and that they are telling you the truth this time.
3 yellowsnow2 2016-12-16
Lets get the facts straight...
The email leak exposed the DNC rigging the primary against Bernie and other corruptions.
Why is this bad? Why should we hate whistleblowers? Why should we be mad or scared that the truth was exposed? It matters not who exposed it, even though the Russia thing is the most obvious propaganda ever.
2 mudhutwarrior 2016-12-16
Dont even waste your breathe. You're not fooling anyone.
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2 AssNasty 2016-12-16
Fine, you're wasting your breath. Account for years.
2 trapfather 2016-12-16
I can't justify believing anything pushed by the MSM's propaganda factory.
1 RJS83 2016-12-16
Another testament to the fact that at the ground level, it becomes more convoluted the deeper we dig. Try this for size OP, take all that you hear with a grain of salt.
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3 DontTreadOnMe16 2016-12-16
No one is on "Russia's side" though. If anything, we are on Julian Assange's side. The dude hasn't been wrong in the 10 years since founding Wikileaks, nor has he ever before acted in a way that benefited Russia. What motive would he have to lie to the people about his sources and cover Russia's ass? It just makes absolutely zero sense to me.
If you haven't seen it yet, I suggest you check out the interview he did yesterday with Sean Hannity. SUPER interesting. Listen for yourself, and just see what you think (rather than listen to the MSM tell you that he's just a lying rapist).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b6qlc3lStM4
1 WTCMolybdenum4753 2016-12-16
More details. Help me see through the PSYop please.
1 mudhutwarrior 2016-12-16
Oh jesus, i just started reddit when i quit facebook. Talk a valium and relax.
1 mudhutwarrior 2016-12-16
Then you delete your comments. Give me a break.
Give the new guy some slack. Trust me, am no shill or bot. Just a messenger
8 libbylibertarian 2016-12-16
On that we can agree. Hillary Clinton should be in jail.
1 fyrefox45 2016-12-16
Aside from terrible foreign policy including Benghazi, the Clintons have been surrounded by the largest number of suicides and heart attacks of any politicians I can think of. Seth Rich and Monica Peterson are just potentially the latest on a very very long list. But surely its all just a coincidence.
6 Sapperskrall 2016-12-16
Do me a favor - try doing something illegal then say you didn't realize you were doing anything wrong. If they let you walk then Hillary is innocent as well. If not, then why the fuck is she special?
5 DontTreadOnMe16 2016-12-16
You clearly don't come here often if you don't even understand the reference to the Clinton Body count. While none of it is hard, confirmed evidence connecting the Clinton's directly to murder, there are dozens of mysterious or suspicious deaths and "suicides" involving people close to the Clinton machine, typically those going against them.
I highly recommend that you take some time and actually poke around this sub, and look at the information (personally) that has awoken as many people as it has. Before you just write the entire sub off as crazy, you may find some things that don't sit right even with you.
This sub's distrust of the CIA (and FBI for that matter, personally I'm not even sure what they are doing right now), mainstream media, and the elites in general did not come simply from "crazy fake news conspiracy theories". Just simply re-learning US history accurately will open your eyes to a lot of the themes and ideas currently seen here on r/conspiracy.