Caffeine is as close to a miracle drug as it gets. SSRIs, and every other drug, are not without a negative side effects. So anyway not caffeine for sure. For anything else consult a doctor. Get a new doctor or call a nurse if you don't trust the current doctor. Stopping medication suddenly could be unpleasant for a number of reasons.

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OK, I am a heavy caffeine user. 2-5 cups of coffee a day, plus a cuppa tea in the evening. I'll admit if I don't get my AM coffee I feel off, mostly angry that there is not any coffee yet. But after a few hours I feel fine.

Not really. Don't really get joint or muscle pain ever. Headaches never seem caffeine related.

There are many other ways to disprove your theory, but since you seem to be in a somewhat riled up state about this, I'll oblige your request.

"so an anecdote with an experience with an SSRI that gives an objective symptom that caffeine could never give is the only way you could prove me wrong here"

SSRIs are notorious for causing sexual dysfunction, which caffeine does not. Caffeine actually increases blood flow, so it could theoretically help with erectile dysfunction, if anything.

You can find thousands of the anecdotal examples you are seeking by going to https://www.drugs.com/ and searching for patient reviews for the various anti-depressants (SSRI and SNRI). You will see sexual dysfunction complaints everywhere.

List of anti-depressants: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_antidepressants

Caffeine primarily acts as a vasodilator, but can act as a vasoconstrictor briefly, initially. But that's research, which you're uneasy about.

However, I concede on that point, anyway. One of the best ways to find anecdotal reports is to specifically search for forums. So for example, "caffeine erectile forum dysfunction" would be a good one. That search is pulling up forums full of guys with anecdotes claiming that caffeine ultimately gave them sexual dysfunction.

So I lose this round.

Caffeine never gave me brain zaps. Can't say the same for Lexapro.

Chill, Winston. I'm getting ready for bed. I can elaborate on the morrow, but it's just this quick, painless-almost disorientating-jolt. Sometimes it makes me dizzy for a split second, other times I feel like I just jumped parallel universes.

I'll try to figure a better way to explain it tomorrow

Doesn't affect me in the same way as caffeine. I believe you though, because everyone reacts differently. Imagine one person with all the side effects on the list. The drug would never be sold.

Caffeine provides ...I don't know, 'top' energy? Like the predictable thing of being able to wake up, or a coffee after lunch to give you a boost through the afternoon.

My antidep is like a 'deeper' energy, in that if I miss a day, I'll wonder why I'm run down and irritable and fatigued.

That said, I take both within an hour or so most days...

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Ugh this is a tough one. So my next thought was what if you could test to see if there was caffeine in it for yourself. So I find this product, caffeine test strips, which can detect caffeine in a beverage and had customer reviews (anecdotes), and which you could just buy and use for yourself (put contents of SSRI capsule or pill crushed to powder in water, stir and test), so I was compiling it all up for you, the product was fking discontinued and apparently nobody else on earth makes these strips despite the fact that they sold well enough to people with caffeine sensitivities wanting to test their decaf beverages. I also can't find any reasons as to why it was discontinued.

Have there been any cases of someone emptying their SSRI/SNRI capsule or crushing up a SSRI/SNRI pill, and then taking the material to a laboratory and paying to have it analyzed (unknown to the lab)? That's what I'm trying to find right now, if anyone has done this.

Caffeine doesn't make people go to schools and start shooting people.

List of school shootings on SSRI antidepressants

http://www.hangthebankers.com/list-of-school-shootings-on-antidepressants/

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They come from the family of histamines. Not caffeine.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2564489/?report=classic

Because the article isn't about histamines at all.

Google it bud

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