THEY'RE DOING THEIR JOBs. So you have to spoon feed them everything.

You may be right - spoon feeding the Heroes who will be able to activate the machinery of the state might be necessary to get pizzagate investigated.

But that's one of the big problems in our systems - that you have to spoon feed them to work.

Or perhaps the state itself is The System that enables child trafficking, abuse and murder? This is always a possibility when the state itself treats examination of this issue as if it were made of anti-matter.

Personally I think it will be more effective if people do nothing. By isolating themselves from Our Heroes, we will see exactly how broken they are. This is a much more valuable lesson to all of Us than anything else.

And you have been on reddit for twenty days and have some questionable comments on posts. I think you are also government.

I used to post as AccurateLinguist until they banned me for dickjokes, if that helps with your research. Vet your heroes how you'd like, eh. Your failure to do this well will be on you yourself anyway. Not my problem.

If you think I'm pro gov, perhaps you can explain why I'd point out fundamental design problems with our current incarnations of government. Yeah? Carry on...

lol.... I just think it is highly questionable that you want everyone's info so you can put it into a pdf. You do not even want to do your own work to research. Just take everyone else's.

lol.... I just think it is highly questionable that you want everyone's info so you can put it into a pdf. You do not even want to do your own work to research. Just take everyone else's.

wrong guy

Where is your proof then? You have showed none so far. And you say you got banned for dick jokes. So why should we take you seriously then?

Where is your proof then? You have showed none so far.

i'm not sure what i've said that needs proof beyond the stated hypotheses, whatever that even means (as a general concept, proof in the vernacular sense doesn't really exist! but ignoring that..).

And you say you got banned for dick jokes. So why should we take you seriously then?

hold on, hold on. further examination of the thrusts of my post(s) should provide potentially explosive knowledge sauce if your up to the proverbial job.

Uhh, inaccuratelinguist is not OP

well duh...

You said he wants to put everyone's info in a pdf, OP said that

Uhh, inaccuratelinguist is not OP

Hey's a shill trying to discredit this and obviously all over the place and has obviously screwed up.

I don't see that at all. Completely disagree.

I don't see that at all. Completely disagree.

Yes because he deleted his post.

I know. I just realised I was talking to the wrong person. I thought I was still responding to OP since he responded to a comment on this person's comment. I already apologized to this person for the confusion.

I didn't refer to you as a he. Fuck is wrong with you???

Did I say you did? No I did not. What is wrong with you?

I know. I just realised I was talking to the wrong person. I thought I was still responding to OP since he responded to a comment on this person's comment. I already apologized to this person for the confusion.

<lol.... I just think it is highly questionable that you want everyone's info so you can put it into a pdf. You do not even want to do your own work to research.

You guys are talking to each other. Which is quite strange. You're posing questions to a person, that isn't me, with a different username but you're acting as if it is me.

I question anyone who wants to take others research and not do their own.

Protip: Don't admit to ban evasion.

Or perhaps the state itself is The System that enables child trafficking, abuse and murder?

Yes it is. The system is designed for just this. BUT the people I'm talking about are not all part of it.

pizzagate.wiki

http://pizzagate.wiki/

FULLY SOURCED EXECUTIVE SUMMARY OF PIZZAGATE EVIDENCE

I now think OP is being disingenuous. Short account history, "finds" this sub within a few days and all of a sudden he's an advanced investigator, rage at anyone questioning him.

I suspect he's incredibly ignorant or he's up to something, neither of which inspires confidence.

Seems like it would be a good way to get wind of any breaking investigation developments before they go completely public.

Probably the sleeper voat mod shill trying to gather intell on the enemy so they can delete all the info and get paid or saved from blackmail. Shit stinks to high heaven

Could be anybody. Could be some guy at Eglin AFB, could be CIA, could be DNC intelligence trying to find out how much we know.

His writing is quite poor as well, not something I would expect from a member of a "prominent field".

Yes, again, your suspicions are noted.

And not addressed. This isn't fucking play time. Ask Monica Petersen.

I'll put it on my list to do, right off. Deep breath; histrionics are always taken with salt.

Glad to know I wasn't the only one he tried to bully for questioning him.

I don't believe you. I think you are trying to get info that people know and discredit them and hide the info. You sound like you are government.

I don't believe you. I think you are trying to get info that people know and discredit them and hide the info.

The info is already publicly info and available? What you claim makes no sense if you actually just think about it.

Then why are you asking for info if it is already there ? You could write a paper with all the information that is given on this but yet you still ask ? Why should anyone trust you?

Why should anyone trust you?

Your shilling is not going good is it?

Why would anyone need to trust me? The info is public. I'll just be putting it together nicely in pdf form.

You seem to be a shill or are off your meds because you're going ham on a topic that doesn't need it.

Still can't back up anything. You are the shill not me. You can't even offer any evidence. And you don't want to do your own work. When all the info is right here. Why do you need to ask for the info? What do you get out of it ?

Still can't answer question that are posed to you. So sad.

Rule 10. No personal attacks. Removed. Final warning.

Alefantis has a lot of kids and sexual innuendo on his instagram. That would be circumstantial. But if you show enough of that it starts to form a picture. The bigger the picture the more Red Flags ,which will spark further more serious investigation by officials.

But the officials are paid off and are in it as well. So don't just drop it off at the place, plaster it all over the internet and make flyers and show everyone in the community, then maybe the police will have to act.

So don't just drop it off at the place, plaster it all over the internet and make flyers and show everyone in the community, then maybe the police will have to act.

I agree, but this is an official start versus just talking about it and doing internet memes.

What do you think people are doing then ? What do you think this sub is about? Why do you think there are webpages dedicated to this? Wow you are really far behind? Do your own homework.

I will not longer engage with you. You will now be blocked. Get a life.

lol... Shill

/u/missyshimmy was unnecessarily harsh, considering the thought that went into her quip versus the time the OP put into this post.

Seriously guys, the sheeple out there think Pizzagate is all about memes, so OP has made a valid point. My roommate told me r/Pizzagate was fake news because that's what snopes told him. Let's get a grip and not act like those kinds of sheeple. OP is the first user I've seen to propose formal papers with citations and annotations to be used as evidence to indict. The OP is doing us a favor by showing us 'how it's done'.

Yes, you're doing a lot, including all the auties, but get it done right.

OP is the first user I've seen to propose formal papers with citations and annotations to be used as evidence to indict. The OP is doing us a favor by showing us 'how it's done'.

Thank you for acknowledging this. And I do know how to get this done. But it seems many users here just like the circle-jerk of the feeling of conspiracy, without doing anything constructive concerning it.

Your post deserves gold if I were to donate to a cucked community.

LOL

LOL

I'm always suspicious of people who call others shills without any explanation or context. It's also against the rules here.

Rule 10. Removed. 1st warning.

Are you still mad at me ?

I wasn't mad to begin with.

Thank you

plaster it all over the internet and make flyers and show everyone in the community, then maybe we can monetize our YouTube page

Ftfy

This sounds suspiciously like a data mining operation to try to collect contact information about the people investigating Pizzagate.

OP, I don't know what your true intentions are, but if this is legit, then you need to work on your approach. Using a throwaway account to ask people to email you and physically mail stuff about a controversial theory is raising all sorts of alarm bells.

People have been murdered for investigating pedophile rings. Folks, please take precautions if you're investigating Pizzagate. Emailing random strangers with information is not good OPSEC!

Practice opsec. OP is.

OP wants to mail formal paperwork to legal authorities, what's wrong with that? That is proper protocol.

There's nothing wrong with OP asking for Pizzagate links, compiling his own report, posting a Dropbox link here to the .pdf for others to download, and submitting a report to the authorities himself.

What's incredibly suspicious is that he's soliciting emails from strangers in this subreddit. There's no need in the process described above for an email exchange with strangers.

There's no obligation to comply with their request.

Of course not, but it doesn't hurt to warn people about taking precautions when investigating pedophiles. I doubt OP will be the last person to try to solicit personal information from this subreddit or on Voat.

It doesn't sound at all like OP is trying to solicit personal information.

People can get tricked, they may give up that info but then realise it is going to the wrong hands, a lot of people don't even bother using throwaway accounts/email addresses etc.

People can get tricked

Awww, well then that is on those people. You, nor I are their keepers. This is weak reasoning.

No it's not weak reasoning, it is empathy.

Hey hey there is a HUGE difference between 'giving a shit' and 'holding people's hands'. You can care about a person's general welfare but you can't control what they choose to consume.

You are defining it as holding peoples hands, just you. It is raising awareness, you think people need to get stung and learn for themselves from their mistakes, where I believe we should advise and enlighten where possible to not make certain mistakes.

GENERALLY I agree with you. Just not on this specific thing. The facts are out there. It is up to everyone to do their own due diligence on such questions and issues.

My original post was in reply to someone saying "OP isn't trying to illicit personal information", so I replied to be careful about not using a personal email address or a reddit account that has a lot of information about you, and for some reason you wrote a reply telling me not advise people to be cautious. I do agree partially, "the facts are out there", but then again there are more facts to be found by individuals.. but it wasn't really about the "pizzagate information" in this particular case being in the wrong hands, I was talking more generally about many situations not just Pizzagate, in people giving information + their own personal information to the wrong hands.

Then why include an email address at all? Again, everything OP is demanding can be handled via Reddit comments and PMs. There is absolutely no need to involve email in this at all unless OP is data mining or is just plain ignorant about how to approach a community full of skeptics.

It is suspicious that people are dismissing privacy concerns here, especially when it is surrounding a highly sensitive topic like Pizzagate.

This sounds suspiciously like a data mining operation to try to collect contact information about the people investigating Pizzagate.

Okay... now this is just paranoia or you're just trying to scare folks off from this.

THE INFORMATION IS ALREADY PUBLIC

THE INFORMATION IS ALREADY GATHERED TOGETHER IN MANY PLACES, even in this sub.

Some of you guys seriously need to take a breather. No death squads are coming to your door just for putting together a PDF of public information.

Some of you guys seriously need to take a breather. No death squads are coming to your door just for putting together a PDF of public information.

Do you know how many people have died investigating pedophile rings?

You don't sound bad. I'm inclined to believe you. But holy shit you're naive.

Do you know how many people have died investigating pedophile rings?

Yes, they were digging into information retrieving the FIRST LEVEL of into to bring to the world.

WE ARE NOT INVESTIGATING ANYTHING!

It's just putting together publicly available, internet only information.

Again... for the 5th time. UBER-Paranoid.

If what you said was any bit of being true, half the people on this sub would be missing.

So in reality, you have no idea how any of this works.

I'm speaking from experience.

Rule 10. No personal attacks. Removed. 1st warning.

Hey, SM. Question for you. Was this comment you removed made by OP? I ask that because A) it's removed so, of course, I can't see who made it, and B) if it was an offensive or unnecessarily rude comment made by OP...then I think that's important for others on here to know because it gives a good indication of just what kind of person OP might be. Someone with honest intentions might not resort so quickly to angry or rude remarks.

Just a thought.

I really don't like doing that. You can find what you're looking for in the /r/conspiracy Mod Log. There's a link in the sidebar ----->

I didn't realize the request was uncouth. No intention of anything of that sort on my part. Apologies.

I wouldn't call it "uncouth". Quoting such comments just kind of defeats the purpose of removing them.

Oh. No, no, bro. I wasn't asking what was the comment that got deleted. I was asking WHO sent it. I was asking if it was OP that did it is all - not so much what the content of it was. I get what it was enough. It was something that broke the rules. Nuff said. I was just wondering if it was OP that did it because if it was, then that would simply let me and others have an even better idea that OP isn't all that super even-keeled - which would lend more credibility to being very careful and wary of what he's requesting. That's all.

I thought part B) of your question was asking what he said.

Did you check out the mod log?

I was looking for something more general like "Yeah. He said something unnecessarily snarky, etc, and that's why I deleted it" more than anything specific about what he actually said.

And I'm actually a bit of a neophyte on the mod log, honestly. I clicked on the link and everything just completely whooshed over me in terms of how to actually read it... :/

It was OP and what he said was barely across the line as far as personal attacks go. I've seen much, much worse.

Fair enough.

I gotta figure out how to navigate through these mod blog things...

If it's all already then why don't you just gather it all yourself. Or have your "staff" do it.

your "staff" do it.

you got some jelly on your lips.

haha a little a guess. I am prone to use quotations a bit too much.

It's all good!

You should be uber-paranoid when investigating Pizzagate or anything Clinton-related. Go research what happened to Monica Petersen and Victor Thorn when they investigated pedophiles and Clinton crimes. I'll risk the mockery and downvotes by saying it again:

People have been murdered for investigating pedophile rings. Take precautions.

Those precautions include not sending email to sketchy strangers on the internet. Even a throwaway email account can reveal personal information in the email headers.

your concerns aren't even concerns.

Your outright dismissal of privacy concerns regarding this highly sensitive topic raises further suspicions about your motives.

Your outright dismissal of privacy concerns regarding this highly sensitive topic raises further suspicions about your motives.

Exactly. Well-said.

raises further suspicions about your motives.

your suspicions are noted. Can we carry on, now?

This looks like OP wants to take credit for a finished work produced by someone else, someone that cannot openly take credit for it.

PAY ATTENTION FOLKS!

They've murdered police officers before. You think they won't kill you if you get some real dirt on one of their blackmailed perverts?

If you don't have leverage and connections, you need to be CAREFUL.

I'm suspicious.

I'd like to have more confirmation of your integrity. People have ended up dead working on this.

At a minimum, anyone who does this should include absolutely no information identifying themselves, and use encrypted e-mail.

At a minimum, anyone who does this should include absolutely no information identifying themselves, and use encrypted e-mail.

This goes without saying. Like I said previously UBER-Paranoid.

I'd like to have more confirmation of your integrity.

You WON'T. Just as I don't care who you are. Is it not about the public information that has been unearthed? So why are you and the other 2 Uber-paranoid people so concerned about who I am, when I can careless who you are? Chill.

Also, whoever is investigating this needs to understand both mystery cults and free masonry. You guys wouldn't shrug off references to Moloch worship or other occult matters so quickly if you knew the impact these groups STILL have today.

Most of this would NOT be in the official document. Why? There is no need from it when the public info available on here and on voat.co/v/pizzagate is enough without throwing Moloch worshippers into it.

Most of this would NOT be in the official document. Why? There is no need for it when the public info available on here and on voat.co/v/pizzagate is enough without throwing Moloch worshippers into it.

It's a major key to understanding this stuff. Otherwise you can't understand their motivations and their codes.

It's a major key to understanding this stuff. Otherwise you can't understand their motivations and their codes.

No it's not. Police, Sheriff, FBI and other law enforcement have plenty experience capturing pedophiles and know how they operate.

So again, not needed, it will only be about the FACTS and ACCURATE, CITED, ANNOTATED, circumstantial evidence which is required to begin a proper investigation into this.

Do you really want this nonsense to come to an end? Or do you want to play games?

No it's not.

How the fuck would you know? How many child rapists have you put in jail?

Police, Sheriff, FBI and other law enforcement have plenty experience capturing pedophiles and know how they operate.

Some of us do. Those with a lot of experience spend significant time learning about occult symbols:

https://wikileaks.org/wiki/FBI_pedophile_symbols

That's how they hide themselves, Detective Dipshit. Don't talk out of your ass so much, and you might learn something.

That's how they hide themselves, Detective Dipshit.

Again, fear mongering, and angry about something that has nothing to do with me.

You're now blocked. As I will now block anyone who isn't talking about the topic at hand in a constructive manner.

This should confirm for anyone reading that this poster is either ignorant, unstable, or dishonest.

I now strongly suspect the third option, given his knowledge of encryption.

Rule 10. No personal attacks. Removed.

Rule 10. No personal attacks. Removed. Final warning.

Sorry. Child molesters make Hulk angry.

I actually think the occult/divine influences on pizzagate (and related scandals) may be half the reason that the stories are suppressed so violently, so consistently. The pedophilia is one thing. But if the people were to learn about the occult rituals, sacrificing and satanic/divine references and desires of the perpetrators it would cause absolute chaos.

But if the people were to learn about the occult rituals, sacrificing and satanic/divine references and desires of the perpetrators it would cause absolute chaos.

Yes, I agree. BUT do you actually think the average person could digest the massive world wide sex slave/pedophile rings and then find out it's all about sacrifices to a strange god? <--- This is why that is not needed. Yes many of us know. But you gotta admit that would be a massive horse sized pill for the average person to swallow.

Godspeed to those who push for a real investigation into pizzagate because this is the shit you have to deal with.

Wow Obama really is an asshole

What the hell, Obama?

Obama is just a puppet. A mouthpiece for the hidden hand.

If anyone questions this they should watch his Trevor Noah interview from a couple weeks back

Can you or anyone please transcribe what he said? YouTube doesn't give the option for automatic captions for this video so I have no idea what he said. Thanks in advance!

He called Spotlight a fantasy film because it's becoming an accepted fact that journalism is no longer a viable way to out the wrong doers.

Paraphrasing

Wow... OK thanks!

He also joked that WAPO is dying because BuzzFeed types are taking over the media.

That's relevant because of the fake news and recent propaganda bill passed

r/cfb the college football sub bans anyone who mentions the penn state pedophile scandal. I just got banned for saying "joe pa knew" in the current game thread for the rose bowl

Wow ... this sub is really infiltrated. So sad.

Shouldn't you start with some type of formal accusation against Podesta or Alefantis?

Which child, or parent, or colleague, or friend has accused either of them of laying hands on children in an inappropriate way?

This is like me hacking into your Google search history, finding a bunch of true crime, heavy metal bands and gore pictures and asking the authorities to open up a murder investigation for you.

This is like me hacking into your Google search history, finding a bunch of true crime, heavy metal bands and gore pictures and asking the authorities to open up a murder investigation for you.

Hence way I said, citations, annotations etc. Can't just be what would be consider libel.

in all honesty, the person to do this is George Webb. His current google doc needs to be combined with the pizzagate research.

My staff ayyy

Ok because I remember asking you on another post why you let op attack everyone. You never answered and never gave him a warning. Not starting a fight just stating facts.

What about the information here, OP? Can't you just submit that?

Shit ton of concise stuff in there.

Yes, I agree and can be added to the other public works available.

Is that something that you could possibly contribute to the people you work with and that could accomplish the task you're looking for regarding what you're asking in your OP?

So don't just drop it off at the place, plaster it all over the internet and make flyers and show everyone in the community, then maybe the police will have to act.

I agree, but this is an official start versus just talking about it and doing internet memes.

Practice opsec. OP is.

OP wants to mail formal paperwork to legal authorities, what's wrong with that? That is proper protocol.

This sounds suspiciously like a data mining operation to try to collect contact information about the people investigating Pizzagate.

Okay... now this is just paranoia or you're just trying to scare folks off from this.

THE INFORMATION IS ALREADY PUBLIC

THE INFORMATION IS ALREADY GATHERED TOGETHER IN MANY PLACES, even in this sub.

Some of you guys seriously need to take a breather. No death squads are coming to your door just for putting together a PDF of public information.

This looks like OP wants to take credit for a finished work produced by someone else, someone that cannot openly take credit for it.

PAY ATTENTION FOLKS!

They've murdered police officers before. You think they won't kill you if you get some real dirt on one of their blackmailed perverts?

If you don't have leverage and connections, you need to be CAREFUL.

plaster it all over the internet and make flyers and show everyone in the community, then maybe we can monetize our YouTube page

Ftfy

That's how they hide themselves, Detective Dipshit.

Again, fear mongering, and angry about something that has nothing to do with me.

You're now blocked. As I will now block anyone who isn't talking about the topic at hand in a constructive manner.

So in reality, you have no idea how any of this works.

I'm speaking from experience.

Rule 10. No personal attacks. Removed. Final warning.

Rule 10. No personal attacks. Removed. 1st warning.

Are you still mad at me ?

Of course not, but it doesn't hurt to warn people about taking precautions when investigating pedophiles. I doubt OP will be the last person to try to solicit personal information from this subreddit or on Voat.

I really don't like doing that. You can find what you're looking for in the /r/conspiracy Mod Log. There's a link in the sidebar ----->

He called Spotlight a fantasy film because it's becoming an accepted fact that journalism is no longer a viable way to out the wrong doers.

Paraphrasing

I thought part B) of your question was asking what he said.

Did you check out the mod log?

Shit ton of concise stuff in there.

Yes, I agree and can be added to the other public works available.

Fair enough.

I gotta figure out how to navigate through these mod blog things...

And not addressed. This isn't fucking play time. Ask Monica Petersen.

It's all good!