Wouldn't he be rotating with the earth tho.

He jumped from the stratosphere, which isn't anywhere close to outer space.

Which is exactly what I said. Felix jumped from 39.045 km.

Am I missing something here?

If it takes three hours to get down

It didn't take three hours to get down... It was broadcast on live TV and it took him about 5 minutes to get down.

Is the stratosphere 40k up rotating at the same speed as the planet earth?

Yes that is exactly what is happening. Everything within the Earth's atmosphere is rotating at the same speed as the Earth. That is how it works.

Ok well for that entire three hours he was rotating at the same speed as the earth. As I said everything in Earth's atmosphere rotates at the same speed as the earth.

Isn't the argument that it retains the motion it had from when it was on the ground? Not that the atmosphere keeps it moving.

That doesn't make any sense

How exactly would something "retain motion"?

Yeah I don't buy it either. But I'm pretty sure that's the modern scientific explanation. Not that the atmosphere carries objects. How the clouds stay in position is another question

But I'm pretty sure that's the modern scientific explanation.

You may be "pretty sure" but you're wrong.

Oh really. So the contention is that the atmosphere carries objects along?

How about Newton's first law?

A rocket takes off from the surface of the earth. It exits the atmosphere. Does that mean all of a sudden the earth begins spinning underneath it?

If the guy was "ascending over New Mexico" your point is invalid. Why would he come down differently than he went up???

He started off with 0 relative velocity to the surface of the earth. Hes standing on the earth motionless, right? Then he got into his balloon and went relative velocity straight up. Then he got out of his balloon and went relative velocity straight down.

Unless there is an force applied toward any horizontal vector, he is going to go up and down to the exact same spot. Obviously there is wind involved, so he did not hit the exact same spot.

The pull of gravity is essentially as strong at the border of space as it is on the ground.

You need to stop pretending you know anything about this subject. You're an embarrassment.

This stupid shit again...

Next time you have a thought, let it go.

LOL. my god the stupid is so loud.

Jesus Christ.

Exactly. Not just that but the positions of star constellations should be constantly changing.

If the earth is experiencing an acceleration towards the sun, then we should be able to feel it and be affected by it.

If the earth is experiencing an acceleration towards the sun, then we should be able to feel it and be affected by it.

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I think you need to read up on some basic physics. The Earth is always accelerating but only because the direction is constantly changing. The Earth does not accelerate "towards the sun".

Also the constellations are constantly changing, so Im not sure what you're getting at there.

I wrote this ages ago. It's pertinent:

I'm not a physicist, but I'll use an analogy that I think will work.

Ever ride on a school bus? If the bus is moving at 60 MPH and >you jump absolutely straight up, does the bus move under you? >Would you land in the same spot you jumped from, or would you >end up losing your place, and moving backward relative to the >bus?

You would stay in the same place. The bus is moving at 60 MPH, >and so are YOU. You're moving WITH the bus. Same goes for >planes, and same goes for planes flying around the planet Earth.

BTW, planes do NOT take the same amount of time at the same >speed to go from East to West as they do from West to East. >Your entire assumption is wrong from the onset.

Here's a teeny bit of information as to why: >https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jet_stream#Aviation

The Earth is round.

In the example you gave, the bus is moving at a constant speed. In this scenario the net force is zero as there is no acceleration.

The earth on the other hand is (supposedly) moving in a circle around the earth and is therefore accelerating. In this case we should be able to feel it.

What? That doesn't make sense. Can you reiterate?

Also, the Earth is moving at a constant speed as it rotates around its axis, and we are moving at the same speed as the Earth as it rotates.

The earth is moving at a constant speed, yes. But because the earth is changing direction, it is accelerating.

So as the earth moves around the sun it is experiencing a force, we should be able to feel this force.

How is the Earth changing direction? It's constantly spinning around an axis, and there is no direction change, it's also rotating at a constant rate around the Sun.

Honestly, I'd recommend reading up on some basic physics to understand the concepts.

This entire post is bullshit, but the Earth IS constantly changing direction. For example, at opposite sides of the rotation around the sun the directions are opposite.

It also does not rotate around the Sun at a constant rate. The Earth moves faster when it is closer to the sun; usually in January.

I think your understanding of planetary physics might need some brushing up.

Fair enough, that's what I get for summarizing while doing other things.

Change direction????

What in the fuck do you reckon is going on here?

School isnt even required to avoid this kind of stupidity.

Flat earther = going full retard.

Simply put

Flat earthers are retarded, but the Earth is constantly changing direction. Any object not traveling in a straight line is changing direction. I'm not a flat Earther and this isn't bullshit; it is a proven scientific fact.

Nope, im pretty sure he was responding in regards to the earth's rotation not its orbit around the sun.

Both this acceleration and the gravitational pull of the sun are minute compared to the gravitational pull of the Earth. You did get me wondering if we are lighter when the sun is overhead and, yes, we are 0.0000026% lighter. You do see this effect in action with ocean tides.

I think you meant to say "the earth is moving in a circle around the sun." That's why nobody understands what you're trying to say.

The problem is that you're confusing acceleration caused by a speeding up or slowing down and an acceleration caused by a change in direction. But I don't see any reason to accept your premise that we should be able to feel the change in movement. If you're flying on an airplane, you will only feel sudden changes, like a hard turn or a sudden change in elevation. But gradual changes you don't feel. Same with the Earth around the Sun. The circular movement (what you call a change in direction) is very gradual.

Bus: dude please buy a globe, glue a model car bus onto Europe and spin the globe. does the bus moves in a straight line or circle? if i go by plane from the nordpole to the equator do i get accelerated eastwards from 0 to 1000mph by the wind?

I used a similar analogy with airplanes when having a back and forth with a flat earther. He told me I was comparing apples to oranges. But he couldn't tell me why.

Why are we suddenly having all of this fake news about the earth? It is really nutty. Where is it coming from?

This sub has always been nutty.

Just remember: Flat Earth conspiracy exists to help identify people of low intelligence and inferior critical thinking skills so they can be exploited.

I believe it is all a prank by the Church of the Subgenius, and it's going better than they ever hoped.

I wish. Think about it. If you met someone who simply believed whatever nonsense you told them, imagine what you could get them to do. Entire religions have been constructed this way...

And social memes like Flat Earth belief.

What's with all the flat-tards lately?

They're a distraction to disrupt people searching for truth. It's similar to how the lizard people bullshit was a distraction campaign.

That's a pretty lame premise to try and distract though, no?

People that genuinely believe the earth is flat will tell you it's the biggest and most important conspiracy of all time. I think it distracts so well just because of how blatantly stupid and wrong the "theory" is.

Exactly what a lizard person would want us to think.

Think about it as a opportunity to review some basic physics. It makes the experience more tolerable.

And here I was thinking it was just a HUGE waste of time.

Flat earth stuff should be banned here. It has nothing to do with conspiracy, and everything to do with insanity or just plain trolling.

The atmosphere moves with the earth

The atmosphere, in general, rotates with the planet. That's why we don't get 17,500 mph winds.

But that would be fun

Because earth's atmosphere moves with the earth. Space exerts no countering force to the rotation.

It's all relative.

I love this sub. First PizzaGate, then Assange is kidnapped by the CIA, Soros was a child Nazi collaborator, and now, flat fucking Earth.

Quality entertainment. Thanks guys.

Soros was a child Nazi collaborator

...umm, he was...

...umm, he's a Jew himself and you've been brainwashed by a heavily-edited interview on YouTube. Wake up sheeple.

Plenty of Jews collaborated with the NAZI's. Actually there's a fair amount of evidence that the NAZI's were funded by wealthy Jews. But that's another topic altogether.

It's well known that Jews were forced to collaborate with the Nazis. Yes, historians have documented that well.

It's an altogether different thing to imply that Soros collaborated with the Nazis, and that he enjoyed it.

Someone edited an interview with him and put it in YouTube, knowing full well people would fall for it.

I seriously don’t understand your logic here. You’re going to need to explain it to me. The earth is rotating. You seem to be saying that, in New Mexico, the earth is rotating about 830 MPH (2500 miles in 3 hours). That actually sounds about right to me, so we’ll use that number. So, our red bull jumper starts out moving 830 MPH (since he’s standing on the ground), and begins his ascent. As he’s rising, he is still moving 830 MPH, in the same direction as the earth.

So, he reaches his final altitude, but he’s still moving 830 MPH with the earth. Nothing has happened to slow him down. Where would all his kinetic energy have gone, anyway? What force would have thrown him 830 MPH in the other direction?

Flat Earthers don't understand how inertia works. They think as soon as you leave the surface of the earth you somehow lose all of your inertia. Or at least, they can't understand how you don't. And then they take their ignorance of how inertia works as proof of a flat earth (or disproof of Earth's rotation).

Just here to make sure yall told this guy whats up.

Did you ever have a flying insect flying around in your car while you went at a fast speed, let's say down an interstate highway? Does the insect have to keep up with the car and fly at say 7 miles an hour to keep from being splatted against the back window, or does it lazily buzz around normally. The answer is that the atmosphere in the car travels with the car at the car's speed if the windows are up and the insect has no problem keeping up because of that. That's what happens when the earth's atmosphere travels along with the earth. Keeping up while suspended in that atmosphere is not a problem

How is the Earth changing direction? It's constantly spinning around an axis, and there is no direction change, it's also rotating at a constant rate around the Sun.

Honestly, I'd recommend reading up on some basic physics to understand the concepts.

Change direction????

What in the fuck do you reckon is going on here?

School isnt even required to avoid this kind of stupidity.