Ya, I'm just glad Israel didn't invade here like they did in other subs. We have good mods. The sub itself is perfect and relevant to what we are seeing outside.
Let them continue, they will only secure future loses.
exactly, dems are screwed for a minimum of 8 years, but i'd say more so 12-16, as they are so divided amongst themselves and they turn on each other at slightest difference
/r/The_Donald has been a strict pro-Trump subreddit since its inception. Trump has always been pro-Israel and never tried to hide it on the campaign trail. /r/The_Donald's support and strict defense of Israel is consistent.
So really what you're saying is that you aren't allowed to challenge the official narrative on /rThe_Donald, but rather the "official narrative" is a strictly enforced version of dear leader's narrative on that subreddit.
I'm not surprised to find you jumping in /r/ProgrammingPants given your reputation around here. The divide and conquer tactics continue.
/r/The_Donald has always been a refuge for discussion that isn't allowed in /r/politics and elsewhere on Reddit, but they still have strict rules. Again, this is nothing new. Stop trying to stir up controversy where there isn't any. We can all see what you're trying to do here and it isn't working.
There is a difference from 1000's of CTR shills blatantly trolling away vs. someone getting fucking banned on T_D for literally saying "I agree with the UN decision" Go to Ceddit.com if you'd like to see all the censored comments.
Answer me one question...what rules did these people break? Answer that or admit being wrong.
Maybe if you go around calling everyone a cuck you will, but I've seen a shit ton against the narrative, look at any gun related post and see the "official narrative" easily challenged.
r/the_donald? You're lucky to see a glimpse against god emperor before the post is deleted and user banned.
Oh look! An enoughtrumpspam poster attacking Trump supporters throughout reddit! Wow! What's it like being a dedicated member of a subreddit created specifically to harrass users of a much more popular and better moderated domreddit?
Seeing as how Trump will be President in a few days they are not going against the official narrative. The whole point was that someone tried saying you can go against the official narrative at T_D. The official narrative is that Israel said fuck the UN and so did Trump. If you mention something bad about that on The_Donald you will most likely not be welcomed.
That's only based off of my experience in which 1000's of comments have been censored in the last 2 weeks.
You are talking like the "official narrative" is a real thing that is black and white. Half of fucking Congress is flipping out saying we betrayed Israel. So someone on The Donald would be going against that "official narrative".
I'll do this simpler for you. Do government officials in Congress not count as an official narrative? Just John Kerry? You realize that Democrats were against a decision to abstain from a vote in a UN resolution.
You can answer condescendingly but that doesn't change the fact that you have no idea how to define an official narrative.
Yeah I just responded. I'm sorry to tell you that there is an absolute undisputable fact that the MSM and Hollywood is Pro-Israel. Thanks for helping prove my point.
Holy shit. I just read through this thread again and you said the official narrative is:
"What MSM, Hollywood, Silicon Valley, academia and Washington have been feeding you."
You have no response. You realize Zionists own every single major studio in Hollywood and every major news network. So for someone to say anything bad against Israel on The_Donald would mean they are not going against the official narrative.
You are not as smart as you think you are. The official narrative in your head just tells you you're smart.
Everyone take note of this conversation. It's what you do when the other guy (in this case Beesfield) has no argument.
The official narrative is Hollywood! "Oy vey I will act like the Jews don't own Hollywood."
I saw a video today where it showed that many Jews suck baby penis blood(not trolling or being racist it's real) do you do that? I enjoy learning about other cultures.
He's not they are directly related. They have censored thousands of comments in the last 2 weeks and a majority of them were completely respectful with some just questioning why we help Israel so much.
I was an everyday poster at the_donald until I realized they censor anything they don't like. Then proceed to make memes about CNN censoring stuff.
I wouldn't say lackey.He isn't even in office yet so he hasn't done any lackying for them yet.
I would say he certainly pro isreal,which should come as no surprise to anyone.If Israel ,Palestine conflict is Jew vs Muslim its not surprising that the man who run for president a ban on Muslim entering the US should side with the Jews.
As a "Donald Trump supporter", I can't wait for the new age of Donald Trump truths to start slowly leaking out. After some time under the presidential microscope, he's sure to get the scrutiny and attention that the democrats are now. Then the whining about it being a donald trump echo chamber can stop.
I think it's despicable that we have yet to see his tax returns. I hate being someone to directly attack someone, but I really don't understand how we can elect someone, anyone, not just Trump, without seeing their tax returns. So with regard to your comment, that's the "truth" I'm waiting to hear.
Shoot, someone's running for president, they should be directly attacked.
I agree with you, my only further question is: does it matter at all to you that the IRS has had them and has been combing them for years, and never brought charges or anything?
I've been doing it for a few days without violent backlash, and I'm going to keep doing it. I think it's about how you present it to them. You can't just outright speak up against it, you've gotta give them something to think about and help them to realise why it's wrong.
I have zero problems with individual subreddits setting up and enforcing their own set of rules. /r/hillaryclinton and /r/SandersForPresident have their own strict anti-dissent rules, and I see no reason why /r/The_Donald shouldn't be allowed to do the same.
I have a problem when people claim it is meant as a counter to "the narrative" but will not allow anything that goes against its own narrative. Making it no better than what it claims to be against.
It's interesting watching /r/EnoughTrumpSpam contributors like yourself rail against /r/The_Donald's strict rules while contributing at the same time to subreddits that are equally as strict. "Making it no better than what it claims to be against," indeed.
You said a stupid thing and it deserved a response of that level. You basically said The_Donald should do what the HRC and Bernie subs do and censor anyone who disagrees with them.
I'm talking about r/the_donald, not here, they ban you at the first hint of not 100% with god emperor. Though r/conspiracy has threatened me with a ban for disputing a conspiracy proposed by a mod in a post. So basically don't dispute a mod's post or they might abuse their powers
Ahh okay, well the mod thing's news to me but makes sense - mods are power mad sometimes. Thanks. Lol yeah, the /r/the_donald thing would obviously happen though. But to be fair - /r/hillaryclinton was a pretty bad echo chamber too. I really don't want this sub to turn into either - we should focus on critical discussion and fact finding from any conspiracy that arises, regardless of political alignment.
r/The_ Donald is an equally oppressive and opposite narrative sub to r/politics. In no fucking way is it a place of free speech or open narratives for discussion on Reddit. It is a cult sub worshipping Trump, how could it be anything that political challenges ideas with an open mind.
what a joke. I can't believe HOW you cannot see through that bullshit.
i just see a lot of people crying out like this when their ideologies no longer match the community. it's fine, continue to share your points. that doesn't mean this place has become toxic, simply means you've become less aligned with it.
what are we supposed to be doing, rallying for HRC?
Eh. Not really. Example of downvoting other opinions:
I believe the "hack" was pure social engineering (as most are). Something like a phishing scam. But it's more convenient for the left to make an enemy out of Russia than to just admit one of their royalty is an idiot. Again.
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really I still cant comment over at trump world because I said I thought he was a con man simply tricking the GOP, but yeah they really are open to other ideas lol.
What's actually interesting about r/conspiracy is that the mods here allow people to challenge us challenging the official narrative. Its the only major political sub that doesn't have mods enforcing some fucked up groupthink censorship, which if you ask me is fucking great because that is truly what "conspiracy theory" is all about - questioning things.
It's also cool that this sub is secure enough that we allow people to question us. It makes sense - if you are the kind of person that questions official narratives, then you probably are a free thinker, which simply means that you aren't someone that kind of person that believes things simply due to societal pressure, which in turn translates you being able to tolerate being questioned yourself.
So a round of applause for the mods here. A round of applause for everyone that questions things including those that question us.
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I just started browsing politics today and either there is really that many people who argue with people in the same fashion that they criticize. Often they mimic the same argument they cannot defeat and then add a slappy "tard, loser, trump supporter loser".
But what I find most alarming is that barely anyone in that sub promotes and follows their rules. No sources or evidence linked to support their claim.
Which is almost always misinformed or downright false headline eye candy, that makes the lazy consumer form an opinion in about 5 seconds. I had someone call me a flat earth supporter after reading my posts when It clearly says I theorize it's concave hollow. Resorting to petty personal attacks.
I almost think they are just training bots to click certain links, look for key words and form a shit post from what they find. It's so obvious how much astroturfing is going on.
Yeah I find the info in this sub always wins the long con. It might not be accurate according to the MSM at first (of course). But then as time goes on, more often than not, the info is proven to be true.
Even if we get some of the specifics wrong I feel like our worldview is the correct one (i.e., those in power are corrupt, secretive, and work together with others to achieve their ends.)
I think it's gotten extra shifty lately tbh, not surprised that the first few people's profiles I checked who agree with you are the_donald supporters as well.
Yeah. This thread is suspect. For weeks there has been a campaign to turn this into a political sub. I think our skepticism makes it hard to spam unthruths so the tactic became to lump r/conspiracy in with the donald and politics by spamming political content. So even though we reject politics in this sub a thread like this makes it to the front.
I make new accounts and delete the old ones often. Your only posts outside of this sub are in the Donald (4) or are about him, and most posts in this sub relate to him, hrc, or pizzagate bullshit. All those posts but still 0 real contribution, just a bunch of bs, like your posts in this thread.
You obviously like trump, more bullshit, not surprised. I'm not trolling, but I guess you've got to resort to calling me one because you don't have anything meaningful to say.
More like you're another idiot who doesn't realize republicans do the same moaning and complaining. Huge problem with both sides, they accuse the other party of shit without realizing they do it too.
what's hilarious about all these accusations is that the vast majority of my submissions have literally nothing to do with trump including none of the last eight articles or self posts i've submitted here lmfao.
They're still true, just because it's not in your last 8 doesn't mean shit. You contribute nothing of value, you just post bs like you're doing right now.
By pointing out that your assertions are blatantly wrong while you moan and complain about a topic you know nothing about from an account with no credibility.
They're not wrong, you are obviously pro-trump. You can't make a real argument so you have to call me a troll, add your own little bs about moaning and complaining when nobody is doing that, and attack me based on my low-post history.
You're like the people saying it's Russian hackers. How many times would Julian Assange have to tell you no before you go and sit down like a good boy?
I've only been browsing here for a few days. My impression is that there is a crazy amount of partisan stuff, check out OP here; they're overtly doing political trolling but that seems to have a ton of influence and support. The only force I've really seen against that are those who wander in by mistake, or like to be skeptical.
Generally this sub has always been about what is behind the political curtain. Candidate X is far down on the pyramid of power. This sub is typically more big picture stuff. It just seems artificial to me the sudden and complete 180 with non stop click bait political spam. Shit is making it to the front page of the sub with zero comments. I miss the quality over quantity aspect of this sub. When the front page did not move much throughout the day but the range of topics was broad and in depth. I believe the attempt to dumb down this sub with political spam is intentional
Is this all due to The_Donald? I've used reddit before this account, but not for like a year or so, I missed that whole chapter.
I don't know what's normal by conspiracy sub standards, but some of the bullshit in relation to real situations and people really irks me. I should really just bail.
TD has infiltrated a lot of other subs, turning them from nonpartisan interesting content to heavily skewed partisan content. It's not even exclusive to them, but I guess it's just more noticeable.
I miss when this sub wasn't so 'political', when UFOs or suppressed TT Brown tech posts were more upvoted than whatever bullshit was happening in politics.
The flip side is that the current conspiracies unraveling in 'politics' could be a linchpin for society at large, and it's good that people feel at home here. Welcome, OP - politics may have brought you here, but there's much more to the story..
I have a feeling that a majority of the overtly political posts will start to twindle as we move away from the election / Trump's inauguration and we'll see a return to the 9/11, UFO, JFK conspiracy days of old.
What I love about r/conspiracy is that it is a group of open minded (mostly lol) critical thinkers who dont simply follow the official narratives. I got into an argument with someone over on r/politics the other day about the credibility of the CIA. Its nice to have a place where other people think for themselves, whether they are right or wrong...
How many times I heard. Who you going to trust, the CIA, or Donald Trump. I do not get it is one or the other with so many. Black/white, I do not trust either of them. I do not understand why this is so hard of a concept for many.
I simply don't go to any of the other political subs. Hell, I didn't even come here for politics originally. I came here to get data on suppressed information, etc. It just so happens that politics is involved as well. For what it's worth, I've never investigated politics more than since I've been in this sub though. That's for sure.
Absolutely. I can see and read perspectives from others all while getting a glimpse of what's really going on in the world. I feel a connection seeing POV from others around the world. So much to learn and see.
Lots of conspiracies are eye opening.
Great sub, 1st time I've felt part of a community, like you said.
But of course because of freedom of speech here. I know the posts should have a conspiracy theme to therm but people feel more free here to express their opinions then most other subs. It's not over taken (yet) by shills, Karma Mongers or corporations.
By pointing out that your assertions are blatantly wrong while you moan and complain about a topic you know nothing about from an account with no credibility.
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n/a JosephOrion 2017-01-04
yep. camo for the real in between the arguably fake :D
w00t!
n/a LightBringerFlex 2017-01-04
Ya, I'm just glad Israel didn't invade here like they did in other subs. We have good mods. The sub itself is perfect and relevant to what we are seeing outside.
n/a IM_NOT_CIA_PROMISE 2017-01-04
Don't give them any ideas.
n/a Dads_BBQ_Brisket 2017-01-04
like they haven't thought and tried before
n/a Outofmany 2017-01-04
That's because they all gave up and left a while ago.
n/a make_mind_free2go 2017-01-04
think so; i rarely check into other 'political subs'. have read about others going through stupid drama about petty bs.
n/a Axana 2017-01-04
/r/conspiracy is the only major subreddit (over 100k subscribers) outside of /r/The_Donald where you're allowed to challenge the official narrative.
n/a Agastopia 2017-01-04
The narrative for the next four years will be the_donald lol
n/a Axana 2017-01-04
Given how the mainstream media continues to lie and how /r/politics is still tightly controlled, I have my severe doubts.
n/a The_Hinterland 2017-01-04
They are just doubling down on identity politics, which lost them the election. Let them continue, they will only secure future loses.
n/a cannibaloxfords 2017-01-04
exactly, dems are screwed for a minimum of 8 years, but i'd say more so 12-16, as they are so divided amongst themselves and they turn on each other at slightest difference
n/a Horus_Krishna_5 2017-01-04
don't dare challenge the Israel narrative at the donald
n/a Axana 2017-01-04
I find it suspicious that you're bringing up Israel in a discussion entirely unrelated to it.
n/a Horus_Krishna_5 2017-01-04
directly related. you said the Donald and it being a place you're allowed to challenge the narrative. you're not allowed to and I gave an example.
sorry but you got duped. I know it's painful.
n/a Axana 2017-01-04
/r/The_Donald has been a strict pro-Trump subreddit since its inception. Trump has always been pro-Israel and never tried to hide it on the campaign trail. /r/The_Donald's support and strict defense of Israel is consistent.
Stop trying to divide and conquer.
n/a ProgrammingPants 2017-01-04
So really what you're saying is that you aren't allowed to challenge the official narrative on /rThe_Donald, but rather the "official narrative" is a strictly enforced version of dear leader's narrative on that subreddit.
n/a Axana 2017-01-04
I'm not surprised to find you jumping in /r/ProgrammingPants given your reputation around here. The divide and conquer tactics continue.
/r/The_Donald has always been a refuge for discussion that isn't allowed in /r/politics and elsewhere on Reddit, but they still have strict rules. Again, this is nothing new. Stop trying to stir up controversy where there isn't any. We can all see what you're trying to do here and it isn't working.
n/a todo1740 2017-01-04
There is a difference from 1000's of CTR shills blatantly trolling away vs. someone getting fucking banned on T_D for literally saying "I agree with the UN decision" Go to Ceddit.com if you'd like to see all the censored comments.
Answer me one question...what rules did these people break? Answer that or admit being wrong.
n/a Beesfield 2017-01-04
The narrative of /r/The_Donald is at odds with the official narrative. The narrative of /r/The_Donald challenges the official narrative.
This is not the same as saying that u/ProgrammingPants is allowed to challenge the narrative of /r/The_Donald on /r/The_Donald.
n/a icecreamday 2017-01-04
The fuck is "the official narrative"?
n/a Beesfield 2017-01-04
What MSM, Hollywood, Silicon Valley, academia and Washington have been feeding you.
n/a icecreamday 2017-01-04
MSM, Hollywood, Silicon Valley, academia and Washington don't ban me when I challenge them.
But the_donald will.
n/a Beesfield 2017-01-04
/r/politics will.
n/a icecreamday 2017-01-04
Maybe if you go around calling everyone a cuck you will, but I've seen a shit ton against the narrative, look at any gun related post and see the "official narrative" easily challenged.
r/the_donald? You're lucky to see a glimpse against god emperor before the post is deleted and user banned.
n/a Beesfield 2017-01-04
n/a icecreamday 2017-01-04
Do you not even have an argument? Is your argument "they do it, so it's ok if we do it"?
I dare you to go to r/politics and say" donald trump will do a great job", then go to r/the_donald and say "Clinton would do a great job as president.
You will be banned from r/the_donald, no question, but i doubt other than downvotes nothing will happen to you in r/politics
n/a Beesfield 2017-01-04
Correcto, senor!
n/a icecreamday 2017-01-04
How petty and devoid of ethics and principles.
Heil Trumpler!
n/a Beesfield 2017-01-04
What is the purpose of the r/politics sub, senor?
n/a icecreamday 2017-01-04
The purpose is for you to use as a deflection from the authoritarian nature of r/the_donald when questioned about it.
n/a keflexxx 2017-01-04
don't be obtuse. TD is a trump supporters sub. redacted is aiming to be a generic political sub. different goals, different expectations
n/a MadAlice89 2017-01-04
Oh look! An enoughtrumpspam poster attacking Trump supporters throughout reddit! Wow! What's it like being a dedicated member of a subreddit created specifically to harrass users of a much more popular and better moderated domreddit?
n/a icecreamday 2017-01-04
Like asking hows it feel to be against cults.
n/a guaranic 2017-01-04
I feel for you dude. It's not worth arguing. People will never listen, especially in places like this.
n/a todo1740 2017-01-04
Seeing as how Trump will be President in a few days they are not going against the official narrative. The whole point was that someone tried saying you can go against the official narrative at T_D. The official narrative is that Israel said fuck the UN and so did Trump. If you mention something bad about that on The_Donald you will most likely not be welcomed.
That's only based off of my experience in which 1000's of comments have been censored in the last 2 weeks.
n/a Beesfield 2017-01-04
n/a todo1740 2017-01-04
You are talking like the "official narrative" is a real thing that is black and white. Half of fucking Congress is flipping out saying we betrayed Israel. So someone on The Donald would be going against that "official narrative".
But sure you got it boss.
n/a Beesfield 2017-01-04
I am.
n/a todo1740 2017-01-04
I'll do this simpler for you. Do government officials in Congress not count as an official narrative? Just John Kerry? You realize that Democrats were against a decision to abstain from a vote in a UN resolution.
You can answer condescendingly but that doesn't change the fact that you have no idea how to define an official narrative.
n/a Beesfield 2017-01-04
n/a todo1740 2017-01-04
Yeah I just responded. I'm sorry to tell you that there is an absolute undisputable fact that the MSM and Hollywood is Pro-Israel. Thanks for helping prove my point.
n/a Beesfield 2017-01-04
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n/a todo1740 2017-01-04
baby penis blood.
n/a todo1740 2017-01-04
Holy shit. I just read through this thread again and you said the official narrative is:
"What MSM, Hollywood, Silicon Valley, academia and Washington have been feeding you."
You have no response. You realize Zionists own every single major studio in Hollywood and every major news network. So for someone to say anything bad against Israel on The_Donald would mean they are not going against the official narrative.
You are not as smart as you think you are. The official narrative in your head just tells you you're smart.
n/a Beesfield 2017-01-04
I am just following my heart, senor.
n/a todo1740 2017-01-04
You're Jewish.
n/a Beesfield 2017-01-04
Allahu akbar!
n/a todo1740 2017-01-04
Everyone take note of this conversation. It's what you do when the other guy (in this case Beesfield) has no argument.
The official narrative is Hollywood! "Oy vey I will act like the Jews don't own Hollywood."
I saw a video today where it showed that many Jews suck baby penis blood(not trolling or being racist it's real) do you do that? I enjoy learning about other cultures.
n/a Beesfield 2017-01-04
n/a todo1740 2017-01-04
baby penis blood
n/a todo1740 2017-01-04
He's not they are directly related. They have censored thousands of comments in the last 2 weeks and a majority of them were completely respectful with some just questioning why we help Israel so much.
I was an everyday poster at the_donald until I realized they censor anything they don't like. Then proceed to make memes about CNN censoring stuff.
n/a wOLFman4987 2017-01-04
Donald Trump is Israel's lackey. It's entirely related.
n/a thebabyseagull 2017-01-04
I wouldn't say lackey.He isn't even in office yet so he hasn't done any lackying for them yet.
I would say he certainly pro isreal,which should come as no surprise to anyone.If Israel ,Palestine conflict is Jew vs Muslim its not surprising that the man who run for president a ban on Muslim entering the US should side with the Jews.
n/a wOLFman4987 2017-01-04
That's a good point, but I don't think it's that simple, as most of the things during this time have been.
n/a rpm612 2017-01-04
As a "Donald Trump supporter", I can't wait for the new age of Donald Trump truths to start slowly leaking out. After some time under the presidential microscope, he's sure to get the scrutiny and attention that the democrats are now. Then the whining about it being a donald trump echo chamber can stop.
n/a SpaceCavem4n 2017-01-04
I think it's despicable that we have yet to see his tax returns. I hate being someone to directly attack someone, but I really don't understand how we can elect someone, anyone, not just Trump, without seeing their tax returns. So with regard to your comment, that's the "truth" I'm waiting to hear.
n/a rpm612 2017-01-04
Shoot, someone's running for president, they should be directly attacked.
I agree with you, my only further question is: does it matter at all to you that the IRS has had them and has been combing them for years, and never brought charges or anything?
n/a wOLFman4987 2017-01-04
I've been doing it for a few days without violent backlash, and I'm going to keep doing it. I think it's about how you present it to them. You can't just outright speak up against it, you've gotta give them something to think about and help them to realise why it's wrong.
n/a JFRHorton 2017-01-04
Agreed. I feel better about voicing my opinions in those two subs than I do in daily life, even if they disagree with what everyone else is saying.
n/a icecreamday 2017-01-04
Challenge the narrative on rthe_donald usually gets you banned...
n/a Axana 2017-01-04
The narrative on /r/The_Donald differs from the official government and mainstream media narrative. My original comment was consistent.
n/a icecreamday 2017-01-04
So it has it's own official narrative that is enforced with an iron fist. That must be followed or you will be punished.
Funny, that sounds like something r/conspiracy would be against, the crushing of dissent and removal of freedom of speech.
How you see this as ok is amazing.
n/a Axana 2017-01-04
I have zero problems with individual subreddits setting up and enforcing their own set of rules. /r/hillaryclinton and /r/SandersForPresident have their own strict anti-dissent rules, and I see no reason why /r/The_Donald shouldn't be allowed to do the same.
n/a icecreamday 2017-01-04
I have a problem when people claim it is meant as a counter to "the narrative" but will not allow anything that goes against its own narrative. Making it no better than what it claims to be against.
n/a Axana 2017-01-04
It's interesting watching /r/EnoughTrumpSpam contributors like yourself rail against /r/The_Donald's strict rules while contributing at the same time to subreddits that are equally as strict. "Making it no better than what it claims to be against," indeed.
n/a icecreamday 2017-01-04
I've got like 6 comments on that sub...
n/a tormentedrecord 2017-01-04
they banned me after my first comment there. 6 means you are a shill
n/a icecreamday 2017-01-04
I don't see your comment, but from the content of your other comments, I don't doubt it...
n/a todo1740 2017-01-04
Saudis Arabia cuts your hand off if you steal. I see no reason why we shouldn't be allowed to do the same.
See your reasoning.
n/a Axana 2017-01-04
Your hyperbole is astounding.
n/a todo1740 2017-01-04
You said a stupid thing and it deserved a response of that level. You basically said The_Donald should do what the HRC and Bernie subs do and censor anyone who disagrees with them.
Excellent logic.
n/a dogcomplex 2017-01-04
Legitimately curious: how is "dissent" punished, here?
n/a icecreamday 2017-01-04
Bans and warnings?
I'm talking about r/the_donald, not here, they ban you at the first hint of not 100% with god emperor. Though r/conspiracy has threatened me with a ban for disputing a conspiracy proposed by a mod in a post. So basically don't dispute a mod's post or they might abuse their powers
n/a dogcomplex 2017-01-04
Ahh okay, well the mod thing's news to me but makes sense - mods are power mad sometimes. Thanks. Lol yeah, the /r/the_donald thing would obviously happen though. But to be fair - /r/hillaryclinton was a pretty bad echo chamber too. I really don't want this sub to turn into either - we should focus on critical discussion and fact finding from any conspiracy that arises, regardless of political alignment.
n/a icecreamday 2017-01-04
I'm sure r/Hillaryclinton isn't great, but I doubt they're as feverish over there.
n/a AwayWeGo112 2017-01-04
T_D is a fan club. We are a meeting of the minds.
n/a themeanbeaver 2017-01-04
r/The_ Donald is an equally oppressive and opposite narrative sub to r/politics. In no fucking way is it a place of free speech or open narratives for discussion on Reddit. It is a cult sub worshipping Trump, how could it be anything that political challenges ideas with an open mind.
what a joke. I can't believe HOW you cannot see through that bullshit.
n/a ruleten 2017-01-04
i just see a lot of people crying out like this when their ideologies no longer match the community. it's fine, continue to share your points. that doesn't mean this place has become toxic, simply means you've become less aligned with it.
what are we supposed to be doing, rallying for HRC?
i'll pass and skip WW3 while we are at it.
n/a philosophocles 2017-01-04
What about /r/Libertarian ? You're pretty free to question anything there.
n/a bout_that_action 2017-01-04
Eh. Not really. Example of downvoting other opinions:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Libertarian/comments/5lz2h2/donald_j_trump_on_twitter_julian_assange_said_a/
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n/a philosophocles 2017-01-04
That looks like a typical two user argument to me.
n/a rebuilt11 2017-01-04
really I still cant comment over at trump world because I said I thought he was a con man simply tricking the GOP, but yeah they really are open to other ideas lol.
n/a skeeter1234 2017-01-04
What's actually interesting about r/conspiracy is that the mods here allow people to challenge us challenging the official narrative. Its the only major political sub that doesn't have mods enforcing some fucked up groupthink censorship, which if you ask me is fucking great because that is truly what "conspiracy theory" is all about - questioning things.
It's also cool that this sub is secure enough that we allow people to question us. It makes sense - if you are the kind of person that questions official narratives, then you probably are a free thinker, which simply means that you aren't someone that kind of person that believes things simply due to societal pressure, which in turn translates you being able to tolerate being questioned yourself.
So a round of applause for the mods here. A round of applause for everyone that questions things including those that question us.
n/a bout_that_action 2017-01-04
There are definitely other smaller subs though like /r/WayOfTheBern. Mods are refreshingly open-minded.
n/a Axana 2017-01-04
/r/SandersForPresident still has the same moderation team that shut it down after /r/Enough_Sanders_Spam asked them to. Until a new moderation team takes over that isn't associated with that debacle, then it should be considered compromised.
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n/a bout_that_action 2017-01-04
I agree 100%.
n/a CivilianConsumer 2017-01-04
Don't forget r/fucklego ..actually never mind a pro-lego post could he challenging the fuck lego narrative. But that's a narrative i'm okay with.
n/a iamse7en 2017-01-04
r/anarcho_capitalism is small but a good place for challenging all official narratives.
n/a zephyr_daleth 2017-01-04
Absolutely.
n/a IM_NOT_CIA_PROMISE 2017-01-04
I've had more reasonable discussion here talking about aliens and flat earth than I've had with other Democrats in r/politics.
n/a MollyNostrils23 2017-01-04
There aren't any 'believers'. Just a couple of twats with the loony-brush painting away for obvious reasons. In their other tin is anti-Semitism.
n/a TheMadBonger 2017-01-04
This x20 kai-o-ken. (HAAAAAAAAA)
I just started browsing politics today and either there is really that many people who argue with people in the same fashion that they criticize. Often they mimic the same argument they cannot defeat and then add a slappy "tard, loser, trump supporter loser".
But what I find most alarming is that barely anyone in that sub promotes and follows their rules. No sources or evidence linked to support their claim.
Which is almost always misinformed or downright false headline eye candy, that makes the lazy consumer form an opinion in about 5 seconds. I had someone call me a flat earth supporter after reading my posts when It clearly says I theorize it's concave hollow. Resorting to petty personal attacks.
I almost think they are just training bots to click certain links, look for key words and form a shit post from what they find. It's so obvious how much astroturfing is going on.
n/a Outofmany 2017-01-04
As a flat earther this brings me tears of joy.
n/a Encyclopedia_Green 2017-01-04
Yeah I find the info in this sub always wins the long con. It might not be accurate according to the MSM at first (of course). But then as time goes on, more often than not, the info is proven to be true.
n/a skeeter1234 2017-01-04
Even if we get some of the specifics wrong I feel like our worldview is the correct one (i.e., those in power are corrupt, secretive, and work together with others to achieve their ends.)
n/a TeslasMuse 2017-01-04
virtual hug, everyone
n/a mishasam89 2017-01-04
YES!
n/a fhgfhgfjhs6ey 2017-01-04
No where else to go. they prepped up r/politics so hard there's no other home to get comfy in.
n/a MartnThaKing 2017-01-04
I think it's gotten extra shifty lately tbh, not surprised that the first few people's profiles I checked who agree with you are the_donald supporters as well.
n/a KingJames19 2017-01-04
Yeah. This thread is suspect. For weeks there has been a campaign to turn this into a political sub. I think our skepticism makes it hard to spam unthruths so the tactic became to lump r/conspiracy in with the donald and politics by spamming political content. So even though we reject politics in this sub a thread like this makes it to the front.
n/a ruleten 2017-01-04
one of the most active posters here and i disagree with both of the above statements
n/a BuildACareBear 2017-01-04
How does that even apply to the credibility of what they said? I'm one of the most active lurkers here and I disagree with your statement.
n/a MollyNostrils23 2017-01-04
I've never heard of any of you before tbh.
n/a ruleten 2017-01-04
try checking my post history
n/a MartnThaKing 2017-01-04
Considering you're one of the people we're talking about I could care less that you disagree with me.
n/a ruleten 2017-01-04
you have 0 submission history and 181 comment karma. this is an alt for me. who are you again?
n/a MartnThaKing 2017-01-04
What's that have to do with anything?
I make new accounts and delete the old ones often. Your only posts outside of this sub are in the Donald (4) or are about him, and most posts in this sub relate to him, hrc, or pizzagate bullshit. All those posts but still 0 real contribution, just a bunch of bs, like your posts in this thread.
n/a ruleten 2017-01-04
I'm a nonpartisan non-American. You're a troll with no post history.
n/a MartnThaKing 2017-01-04
You obviously like trump, more bullshit, not surprised. I'm not trolling, but I guess you've got to resort to calling me one because you don't have anything meaningful to say.
n/a ruleten 2017-01-04
It's true, I can't moan and complain like a democrat.
n/a MartnThaKing 2017-01-04
More like you're another idiot who doesn't realize republicans do the same moaning and complaining. Huge problem with both sides, they accuse the other party of shit without realizing they do it too.
n/a guaranic 2017-01-04
Never expected to agree with something on this sub.
n/a ruleten 2017-01-04
what's hilarious about all these accusations is that the vast majority of my submissions have literally nothing to do with trump including none of the last eight articles or self posts i've submitted here lmfao.
n/a MartnThaKing 2017-01-04
They're still true, just because it's not in your last 8 doesn't mean shit. You contribute nothing of value, you just post bs like you're doing right now.
n/a ruleten 2017-01-04
By pointing out that your assertions are blatantly wrong while you moan and complain about a topic you know nothing about from an account with no credibility.
n/a MartnThaKing 2017-01-04
They're not wrong, you are obviously pro-trump. You can't make a real argument so you have to call me a troll, add your own little bs about moaning and complaining when nobody is doing that, and attack me based on my low-post history.
n/a ruleten 2017-01-04
But I'm not pro Trump. There are many of his policies I do not align with at all. I'm also not pro Clinton. She's an evil murdering lying witch.
Like I said. I'm nonpartisan. Something you can't seem to wrap your head around.
n/a MartnThaKing 2017-01-04
Sure bud, keep telling people that, I'm sure someone will believe you.
n/a ruleten 2017-01-04
You're like the people saying it's Russian hackers. How many times would Julian Assange have to tell you no before you go and sit down like a good boy?
n/a MartnThaKing 2017-01-04
There you go with more bullshit
n/a ruleten 2017-01-04
If you keep it up literally half your post history will be in this one thread.
n/a MartnThaKing 2017-01-04
Your entire post history is bullshit so I guess this one thread won't change that, huh?
n/a uppitydownity 2017-01-04
I've only been browsing here for a few days. My impression is that there is a crazy amount of partisan stuff, check out OP here; they're overtly doing political trolling but that seems to have a ton of influence and support. The only force I've really seen against that are those who wander in by mistake, or like to be skeptical.
n/a KingJames19 2017-01-04
Generally this sub has always been about what is behind the political curtain. Candidate X is far down on the pyramid of power. This sub is typically more big picture stuff. It just seems artificial to me the sudden and complete 180 with non stop click bait political spam. Shit is making it to the front page of the sub with zero comments. I miss the quality over quantity aspect of this sub. When the front page did not move much throughout the day but the range of topics was broad and in depth. I believe the attempt to dumb down this sub with political spam is intentional
n/a uppitydownity 2017-01-04
Is this all due to The_Donald? I've used reddit before this account, but not for like a year or so, I missed that whole chapter.
I don't know what's normal by conspiracy sub standards, but some of the bullshit in relation to real situations and people really irks me. I should really just bail.
n/a MartnThaKing 2017-01-04
Pretty much, this sub was always iffy but it's been brigaded heavily by td users lately.
n/a guaranic 2017-01-04
TD has infiltrated a lot of other subs, turning them from nonpartisan interesting content to heavily skewed partisan content. It's not even exclusive to them, but I guess it's just more noticeable.
n/a srtor 2017-01-04
I am in full agreement with OP.
n/a Iamamansass 2017-01-04
This is not a politics sub.
n/a skeeter1234 2017-01-04
Yeah, that's why 75% of the posts on the front page here are usually about politics.
n/a Iamamansass 2017-01-04
Because they don't want you talking about actual things. They want to keep you and me and all of us in their web.
n/a Outofmany 2017-01-04
That's only because if you're willing to bear the mark of cain they'll let you use some lube.
n/a Chill_Confirmed 2017-01-04
Then neither is r/politics
n/a Iamamansass 2017-01-04
That makes sens.
n/a Chill_Confirmed 2017-01-04
If we are looking solely at content and not the sub's rules then it makes sense.
n/a chillinghard 2017-01-04
I miss when this sub wasn't so 'political', when UFOs or suppressed TT Brown tech posts were more upvoted than whatever bullshit was happening in politics.
The flip side is that the current conspiracies unraveling in 'politics' could be a linchpin for society at large, and it's good that people feel at home here. Welcome, OP - politics may have brought you here, but there's much more to the story..
n/a mkultra5512 2017-01-04
I have a feeling that a majority of the overtly political posts will start to twindle as we move away from the election / Trump's inauguration and we'll see a return to the 9/11, UFO, JFK conspiracy days of old.
n/a cowbey 2017-01-04
Mostly.
But the election sure brought in a shit ton of shills, REEEEEEEEEEEE and BUTWHATABOUTMUHRAIGHTSASAMINORITEE!
n/a gabe_athouse69 2017-01-04
I did until the Donald took it over.
n/a rebuilt11 2017-01-04
thats a good point. between donald and bernie this year i feel they have really poison alot of subs this year...
n/a IFitStereotypesWell 2017-01-04
This is not a political sub
n/a rebuilt11 2017-01-04
What I love about r/conspiracy is that it is a group of open minded (mostly lol) critical thinkers who dont simply follow the official narratives. I got into an argument with someone over on r/politics the other day about the credibility of the CIA. Its nice to have a place where other people think for themselves, whether they are right or wrong...
n/a rpm612 2017-01-04
Kind of a funny loop...
CIA is trustworthy ->
CIA has made attempts and experimented toward mind control on unsuspecting (they told us so) ->
CIA has infiltrated every facet of our media (they told us so) to influence the media that influences us - >
CIA is trustworthy (media says so)(repeat) - >
n/a Simplicity3245 2017-01-04
How many times I heard. Who you going to trust, the CIA, or Donald Trump. I do not get it is one or the other with so many. Black/white, I do not trust either of them. I do not understand why this is so hard of a concept for many.
n/a rebuilt11 2017-01-04
Yeah; I am no Trump fan but I'd take his word before I believe anything the CIA says...
n/a no1113 2017-01-04
I simply don't go to any of the other political subs. Hell, I didn't even come here for politics originally. I came here to get data on suppressed information, etc. It just so happens that politics is involved as well. For what it's worth, I've never investigated politics more than since I've been in this sub though. That's for sure.
n/a commabutt 2017-01-04
I wish you would get your political shit out of here
n/a Known_and_Forgotten 2017-01-04
Minus the vitriol and hyperbole of Trumpkins, yes.
n/a pootlandeyeA42 2017-01-04
is this a political sub?
n/a NeedaboveGreed 2017-01-04
Nothing but comments on Trump. I miss what this place used to be.
n/a FORKinmyDICK 2017-01-04
Half the time. When real paranormal and occult and weird stuff comes up this sub is really dismissive and close minded.
n/a Lyrarya 2017-01-04
Yes. . . until someone starts talking reptilians.
n/a AwayWeGo112 2017-01-04
Better than always bringing up UBI. Ayyyyyy
n/a Fact154 2017-01-04
I avoid all political subs on this site. Especially T_D. This sub has taken a hit in quality since T_D took over during the election.
n/a nut_conspiracy_nut 2017-01-04
Not too bad, except for Jew hate and disbelief in the conservation of energy.
n/a Romek_himself 2017-01-04
and this sux ... all this US politic voting bullshit destroys this sub. its fucking annoying.
n/a NoNameForSteve 2017-01-04
Absolutely. I can see and read perspectives from others all while getting a glimpse of what's really going on in the world. I feel a connection seeing POV from others around the world. So much to learn and see.
Lots of conspiracies are eye opening.
Great sub, 1st time I've felt part of a community, like you said.
n/a Chill_Confirmed 2017-01-04
If r/politics is considered a political sub then r/conspiracy is absolutely a political sub.
n/a Namesoog 2017-01-04
But of course because of freedom of speech here. I know the posts should have a conspiracy theme to therm but people feel more free here to express their opinions then most other subs. It's not over taken (yet) by shills, Karma Mongers or corporations.
n/a 411011 2017-01-04
This and crypto currency subs are the subs I visit.
n/a ruleten 2017-01-04
By pointing out that your assertions are blatantly wrong while you moan and complain about a topic you know nothing about from an account with no credibility.
n/a guaranic 2017-01-04
I feel for you dude. It's not worth arguing. People will never listen, especially in places like this.