One of our own vs James Alefantis - Alefantis literally threatened this guys whole family for exposing that the kill room is in Pegasus Museum

345  2017-01-06 by LightBringerFlex

Ok, so this guy found out that the kill room is in Pegasus Museum. See his deleted but re-uploaded video below:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQgW9qvOiik

This guy sells pizzagate T-shirts and is a soldier on the front lines fighting the good fight. Anyway, he tries to pull an interview with Alefantis and gives it a shot by messaging him on instant messenger through Facebook I believe. Alefantis goes bananas and tell hims to call within 10 seconds. The guy freaks and calls. Alefantis then threatens to kill the mans whole family and instant messages family photos of his mom and girlfriend. He mentions that the main part he wants gone is the Pegasus museum part. Alefantis is on full blown threat mode and so the guy takes it down but then he makes another video of Alefantis threatening him:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZQxYQ49p0U

Why does Alefantis have access to this guys full name and why does he have pictures of this mans family? It is because he is connected to the spy system through agencies like the NSA.

Alefantis is really pissed about the Pegasus Museum being exposed as the location for the kill room where they kill the kids after raping them. This, obviously, can attract a ton of attention to that museum and Alefantis doesn't want this.

I am assuming there is more that he is hiding than just the kill room. Anyone have any ideas as to what that might be? Maybe a Satanic ritual room?

Edit:

Kill room is in Pegasus museum which is in an alley and surrounded by buildings. There is graffiti on a brick that says "kids" with arrows pointing down (underground tunnel?). There was a man on the roof too (maybe spotter?).

Edit 2: word is people are heading out to the museum tomorrow to look around a bit.

Edit 3:

More proof this is real.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RqMMm52CWxE

154 comments

So he is not into kids..

Drug and arms smugglings and money laundering.

I agree with the commenters, first thing he should do after the video is go to the police or local fbi.

So he is not into kids..

Drug and arms smugglings and money laundering.

I agree with the commenters, first thing he should do after the video is go to the police or local fbi.

Art dealing is often a front.

That is the point he was making with the text: "FBI liked your video"...he is (or is pretending to be) in contact with FBI.

He is freaking out though. If he really has any power, he doesn't have a blowout on he phone.

Emoji at the end looks like he is saying comet ping pong is a prostitution place.

If there is a city in the US where something like this could happen, it is Washington D.C.

Finally, top 50 most influential people? He talks like an operator...like he owns the world. But he is just a jagoff running a good cop bad cop, algorithm (where he is both cops--instant anger, instant forgiveness upon cooperation, but you owe me...constant intimidation, etc.).

And waves? There is a tsunami heading in his direction if it's all true: have we asked ourselves why the video is suddenly back up and our plucky profiteer is back in business? Is there not a possibility some guardian angel who is perhaps higher up than GQ's top 50 put his hand on his shoulder and said, "carry on my son"?

Why does Daddy like Butt?

Should have asked him about the resemblance between the Podesta's and the suspects in the McCann disappearance.

you mean the suspect singular, as it was a drawing of the same man. Fucking hell.

I believe it was not a drawing of the same man. The jaws and other facial features are completely different.

suspects

Witnesses.

Well..if he initially contacted James through FB as you say and didn't set his profile to private or use a throwaway, his name and photos will be readily available.

Yeah, I thought contacting Alefantis was a pretty foolish move.

I don't know what to think of the conversation video. Part of me thinks it's phony. He didn't record the second call when he had the chance to, and if he was really afraid he wouldn't have posted this video in the first place. Also, wouldn't Alefantis have been at least slightly concerned about being recorded before making numerous threats? If that audio had gotten out on YouTube it could have been very incriminating.

And with kids and a family and using his own account? I'm all for transparancy, and taking the high road while investigating, but this was blatantly sloppy and handled unbelievably poorly. What the fuck did that guy expect to happen? "Oh no, you've caught me, I'll admit everything."

Let's play devils advocate for a moment. You're James Alefantis, and maybe you're starting to get a little nervous about all this people digging into your shit. Lo and behold some fucking gung-ho idiot shows his hand by bringing up the Pegasus museum and now you're sweating. But wait, this moron decided to attack your from his Facebook full of PII (personally identifiable information) so you fire back at him with whatever you can to shake him off the trail.

Tl;dr - Calling out Alefantis/ANYONE with all your shit visible to the public is asking for him/whoever to personally attack you.

To me it looks like alefsntis spotted how naive the guy was and figured a good threat would scare him off like it has in the past assuming alefsntis has done this often in his line of business. The OP, being naive, obeyed but then uploaded a 2nd YouTube video talking about the threat without considering alefsntis would literally shit a container of bricks if he saw it. He is a bit naive but that doesn't make him a bad guy.

If this is real, OP hit a nerve with alefsntis. Luckily a few locals are heading down for a tour of the museum tomorrow I hear. Guess we'll find out.

Could you direct me to those locals who are heading down, if it's a thread? I would love to keep tabs on it.

It's somewhere on voat pizzagate.

few locals are heading down for a tour of the museum

hotel california

You will find out what? Is raping a child a part of the museum tour? Because they wont find shit.

You have to accept the angle though that Alfantis was already on mass media, denying claims. You'd think if you were that guy, it would end there especially when it's the public's word against your own and the police's.

If something goes wrong, well, his life may be the compensation that was sought for. You really can't escape this. People used to readily put their life on the line for freedom and you shouldn't denounce that.

Are you sure Alefantis isn't in cahoots with this guy and just wants some money from the tee shirts plus the inevitable lawsuits once a few people start making public claims based on this 'proof'? Also, when people go over there to poke around they'll probably have a pizza too onve the smell hits them. Ker-ching!

Great lets see how it plays out. I wont be anonymous anymore.

After some consideration, I think what you did was good move. I read your comment about Alefantus being very flagrant and open about what he did in secret and agree with you that maybe this was a great move to draw him out. Honestly now, this guy was a fucking dumbass to keep all of his stuff up on public social media, and has been the Achilles (lol) heel of Pizzagate and it's investigation.

I apologize for initially thinking your move was stupid (though it is a controlled risk considering your family/friends) but if it works and parallels the actions of Alefantis than it who am I to criticize it.

"Delete it or I'll kill your whole family" is a close relative of "You got me. I confess".

It's also a federal crime. Just what he has in texts violates several federal statutes about using telephony to transmit threats.

If Mr O'neal wants to be the hero, he would have had this guy busted. Yeah by who, the FBI? Local DC cops?

O'Neal also said he is in Galveston, so not only an FCC violation it's a cross jurisdictional violation as well (crossing state lines). Let's see what the Galveston cops do, or don't do.

This guy was an idiot for not recording the phone call. I actually got mad.

I actually got mad.

I actually got suspicious then because he would have to be an idiot. Then he show what is reported to be photos of his family on the 2nd video, yet he is concerned for their safety?

bruh... someone is not thinking very well and he def does not have a Texas accent.

I made that comment before I saw that he didn't record the second call because he was out "doing something with someone". Bull fucking shit.

I know im not supposed to just type lol, so i added this preamble...

lol

psy op psy op

Uhhh, why would you hide who you are when exposing someone? What difference would it make?

People have been killed investigating this kind of shit before. And then people screech that we're being paranoid when we tell them not to personally contact a suspected mass pedophile/murder conspirator...

Gary Caradori was the prosecutor in the Franklin Coverup

he was "Wellstoned"

(died in a small plane crash, like Senator Wellstone)

http://google.com/search?q=Gary+Caradori

this whole drama could also be a false flag designed to scare the casual 'hobbyist' away from the subject.

I've had the same suspicion for some time.

For some reason they deleted this article off voat/pizzagate

Alefantis ordered it by threatening the OP and so he had it removed but there are other voat articles.

https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/comments/1538422

Why are you so convinced that this happened? There is no conclusive evidence this guy is telling the truth.

He has his full name bc he connected him they fb messenger lol fb has all your pics, name and city location etc etc

He needs to turn all his electronic devices off and get the fuck out of dodge before he disappears.

You think these high-level pedo rings can't handle a few cops?

*pay.

Maybe he's tired of people accusing him of be a pedo without any proof, but just random delusions.

And being contacted on Facebook. After watching that video, Ryan seems really oblivious. If that video is real and JA is innocent, man do I feel bad for that man.. hindsight is 20/20, this guy's life is already ruined innocent or guilty

"If that video is real and JA is innocent..."

How would the video being real prove his innocence? JA even says with the exception of kids everything they say about him is true.

This may be a stretch, but he's implying that he's into satanic shit and killing people as a method of scaring the dude so he can convince him to take the stuff down?

Sorry my wording was confusing, if the video Ryan posted was real, as in that really is JA texting him, and if JA is innocent, it's just a normal human being accused and harassed,which is really mest up.

Sadly, this is the most likely scenario. Dude got wrecked like a Salem Witch on less evidence.

If anything this humanized JA for me. "It's my hobby" hobby is ruining some guy's life for fun, selling shirts, contacting him on FB..etc etc

Not sure if Alefantis would incriminate himself in this way. I'm sure he's surrounded by lawyers & consultants advising him on every move he makes, and going off via text messages through an "official" Alefantis fb profile just makes 0 sense for a guy in his position. Our friend Ryan might have gotten the ultimate shit-your-pants troll. Who knows.

It's typical for criminals to make mistakes. They only have to be caught in 1 mistake.

If you're willing to be so careless to assume that a person is guilty until proven innocent then I can't help but assume that you're a backwards thinker.

I assume people are innocent until they post pictures of kids taped to a table in their restaurant that has pedophile logos on it. You don't get the benefit of the doubt from me after that.

that kid is his niece ... had me confused until I found that out as she was also smiling in the photo

100% true. Most criminals are fucking retarded.

Not true.

The ones that get CAUGHT are fucking retarded.

Yeah, that's a fair assessment.

His mistakes were Instagram photos. You think this guy, who is creating she'll businesses, suddenly thinks he's going to engage in a text convo with someone research him and nothing will com of it?

Either this is real and Alefantis wanted this to play out like this or its fake and makes everyone's lives more difficult.

Either way this guy is stupid. And really? No recordings of the phone convos? I call bullshit.

Its definitley stupid. But he isnt the smartest cookie with all the shit he has been posting. If pizzagate is real this dude is a bonified idiot.

i think it's more arrogance than stupidity....he feels untouchable.

Yep he has the kid fucker confidence. You could smell it on podesta the night of the night of the election

That confidence is what we need right now. Fear is what empowers the elite.

Everything else has already been said, so I'm going to go straight to a question I have.

I don't understand why James Alefantis is displayed as the contact when he showed the first round of texts but when he showed round two, the name was gone and it was only the phone number. If it was reversed and digits for the first text, it would totally make sense. Something is off.

The first part is Facebook messenger, where they list names. The second is a text exchange over phone.

Thanks for clarifying.

In that case, dude's in waaaaay over his head.

I don't know what to think of the conversation video. Part of me thinks it's phony. He didn't record the second call when he had the chance to, and if he was really afraid he wouldn't have posted this video in the first place. Also, wouldn't Alefantis have been at least slightly concerned about being recorded before making numerous threats? If that audio had gotten out on YouTube it could have been very incriminating if the conversation happened as he described it.

I'm skeptical also. However, anger is anger, even rich, powerful criminals do stupid, stupid things. He also probably feels the heat and it's probably driving him mad. I have been waiting months. I think Comet Ping Pong will either close due to "unforeseen circumstances" or will burn down or be sold off. Mark this post.

keep in mind....this pizza shop owner rubs elbows with the most powerful people in the world.....i don't blame OP for being scared....if someone who knows Hilary and Obama threatens your life....you re-evaluate your situation.....he very well may end up a martyr.

reise reise....rammstein

It's clearly fake.

He's trying to sell t-shirt and make ad money.

If he had received a death threat, why not involve the police? He'd be a pizzagate hero.

its not fake, he has posted proof of the FB conversation with Alefantis.

The entire text can easily be faked with inspect element.

Are you all new to the internet? He's trying to monetise his YouTube videos and sell you t-shirts.

It's not even a clever fake, if the death threat was credible wouldn't s reasonable person contact the police?

It's not easy at all to fake that with inspect element.. a scrolling chat area with profile pic, links working etc.. he'd have to be pretty fuckin clever to rig that up. And he's been doing legit awesome research for a long time.. why would anyone not take him seriously when he's made real discoveries?

It's not hard.

Have a chat with fake account, then inspect and change the name. Done. Redirect name link to JAs Facebook page. You could do it in 20 minutes or less.

20 mins if you've never used inspect element before. Can't believe people are falling for this.

I meant the whole deal! The chat and video too.

People are so easily duped.

It's easy, I just replicated it in 30 seconds to make sure fb didn't have something stopping you.. Inspect element > highlight text you want to change > type in desired text > redirect links to desired locations > swap thumbnails and you're good to go.

Its super easy mate. I could knock a convincing chat up in 5 mins.

Ryan is making a claim that could be libel, and sued in court if he's lying. Selling shirts is a bit on the questionable side, maybe. But how much do you think he'd make selling 100 shirts? Ever tried to sell shirts online, it's near impossible. It's not a get rich quick scheme, or make a bunch of money quick scheme. Nothing wrong with questioning his evidence of the threats, but I don't see the selling of shirts as a reason to immediately discredit his intentions.

I get the disdain for people trying to profit from the investigation. But how is it any different than Reality Calls or David Seaman (arguably some of the best faces for Pizzagate). They literally ask for donations. If you give 20 bucks to either of them for a donation, they get all of it. If you give 20 bucks for a shirt, he might get 3 or 4 bucks. I don't get the separation, in fact, it seems quite a bit less profitable to sell shirts than to directly ask for donations.

I think those guys are charlatans too.

I agree.... the odds of JA engaging this idiot are worse than me banging Ellen Degenerate

Somebody should phone on his behalf. That might help to get to the bottom of things faster.

Lets not forget this is the same guy who posted photos of his killroom on Instagram.

Not exactly a criminal mastermind.

Did I miss something? The video only shows screenshots of FB and text conversations. Do screenshots (which can easily be fabricated) of a FB conversation really qualify as legit evidence a supposed conversation actually took place?

No.

Streisand effect.

Somebody needs to collect samples form the drains. They will wash and bleach, but the sooner someone gets the sample the more likely it will contain evidence.

And what exactly are you going to do with samples from the drain? Test for DNA? Do I need to explain how stupid that would be?

Not stupid if they end up being a match for a missing kid or something.

Lol we're not amateurs we clean the drains after every ritual.

fighting the good fight? He seems like a liar smearing an innocent man and providing no evidence.

Alefantis is an innocent man?

Has he been convicted of a crime? No? Then yes he is innocent you idiot. It is the basis of your legal system for fuck's sake.

Get the pipes. In the threading. DNA may also be in hair. Bring a pipe snake, lol

This guy is a moron. Contacts this psycho via FB with his real info. Doesn't record the threatening phone call. Jesus christ rookie. You are investigating the Conspiracy of the century and you're using 0 security to hide your identity?

WEW LAD

You're right. I find it hard to believe that his friend sitting next to him couldn't get his phone out and record the phone on loudspeaker. Honestly it's possible JA specifically threatened him about recording the conversation and would fuck his family up anyway if the tape got out.

If he was smart he could've kept up the relationship with and maybe got some more answers. But haven't your family threatened like that must be demoralizing.

I recall him saying that he tried. He has given pretty much all of the proof that shows that all the other stuff is 99% likely to be legit, including that it was JA.

I sleep with a gun and body armor next to my bed because I say bad shit about the government sometimes under a pseudonym. This guy is a fucking moron.

I sleep with a gun and body armor next to my bed because I say bad shit about the government sometimes under a pseudonym.

lol, wut!?!?!

Yeah man, you never know when you're going to hear some noise at night and have to groggily get out of bed, put on your body armor, load your gun and defend yourself from some assassins who have been stalking your post history on reddit and have been ordered to eliminate you because you're getting too close to revealing damning secrets about the global elite.

load your gun

Is this fucking amateur hour? You think it's not loaded?

defend yourself from some assassins who have been stalking your post history on reddit and have been ordered to eliminate you because you're getting too close to revealing damning secrets about the global elite.

Yeah, you're right. The government's never killed anyone. Better to bend over and take it.

The government is not going to kill you for your post history on reddit. And if they wanted to kill you, they probably could do it before you have time to crawl out of bed and get you body armor on. I mean obviously, ou aren't that worried about being killed by the government. You are still posting here. Body armor next to the bed is the ultimate half measure. Maybe it makes you feel better but it doesn't do shit.

The government is not going to kill you for your post history on reddit

Which is TOTALLY what I said.

And if they wanted to kill you, they probably could do it before you have time to crawl out of bed and get you body armor on.

You'd be surprised at how often they send one guy with a pistol.

Body armor next to the bed is the ultimate half measure.

Not at all. And the fact that you're saying things like this makes it really obvious that you're ignorant about the subject area.

Next time you talk to a cop, ask them if they have a gun next to their bed.

Which is TOTALLY what I said.

What you said was that you keep body armor and a gun next to your bed because you say bad things about the government under a pseudonym.

But the government doesn't give a shit about you. Sorry. You're just another dude on the internet.

You'd be surprised at how often they send one guy with a pistol.

Haha. Citation please? You're talking out of your ass.

Ask seth rich about a guy with one pistol

If only he had body armor next to his bed.

Yeah it was a shame. He was leaving his girlfriend. If only he was hone. Or maybe you mean eyes in the back of his head?

seth rich-RIP.

Citation please?

You want me to provide a citation of people who have been assassinated with a pistol?

Well how often does the government send just one guy with a pistol to assassinate one of its citizens? And how do you know?

It's okay dude.

HillarysPizzaParty watched Furious 7, and relies on The Rock shooting out a Helicopter with a pistol.

You'd be surprised at how often they send one guy with a pistol.

Would I? Show me how many times they've done it. Let's see if I'm surprised.

I honestly just come in here to be entertained by types like you.

This is too funny. Multiple posters attacking me, demanding a source for the claim that people are sometimes assassinated by a lone gunman with a pistol.

I honestly just come in here to be entertained by types like you.

Wouldn't surprise me if you got paid to do it...

And if they wanted to kill you, they probably could do it before you have time to crawl out of bed and get you body armor on

one drone + 1 small roof piercing incendiary aimed at the thermal image in the bedroom = tragic fire accident

I bet that guy who worked for Hillary and asked reddit how to delete emails got assange'd

you forgot to mention turning into Angelina Jolie after waking up ... but yeah, that's how it works, I've seen it enough times with my own eyes!

Being British, I would probably roll over in the night and accidentally shoot myself in the side. Next day on Reddit - "OMFG family said he was into conspiracy theories. They killed him!!"
Well... As long is kept awareness up I suppose...

Also, criminals. Although, I guess that includes a lot of the government.

why admit that tho

I have tons of safeguards, no I won't go into specifics so they know what to avoid

Genius safeguards. Like using /u/Horus_Krishna_5 AND /u/Horus_Krishna_4!

I hope you use tor on your tablet on /u/Horus_Krishna_7!

keep getting wrongly banned for statin painful facts

not trying to hide or I'd change the name more than just the number

Not a great safeguard is it. Reddit stores all comments in perpetuity so if you were "busted" the authorities could unravel your expert trolling across multiple accounts.

I mean obviously that's not going to happen because no one cares about what you're saying. Point is its not great opsec.

other option is just not posting on reddit then?

Reddit usernames dont even matter. One could be using tails and tor for reddit use. Sequential names would be easier to remember. I bet he uses the same password for all accounts though.

I bet he uses the same password for all accounts though.

That's a good thing to avoid.

I would have to laugh if there was a completely different user called Horus_Krishna_11 who got banned in the process.

It was mostly a joke. I'm quite sure they know I wouldn't be a soft target, for many reasons.

I also don't think they'd come after me, because I'm not an insurrectionist. I know a violent revolution is worse than the current regime.

ya same here

tons of violent revolutions all thru history so it's a legit worry, best way to avoid it is keep pressuring the establishment to reform by spreading painful facts

They almost always fail. There are a few situations I might engage in insurrection, but it's things like Stalin-style purges. And in those situations, I think a military coup would overthrow them first.

They know all of this, BTW. They know they would lose to an insurrection, quite quickly. I'd say there's a ~50% likelihood that even moderate armed resistance would lead to military coup within a day or two.

Ever wonder why they backed off the Bundy Ranch situation, in sharp contrast to the way things were handled at Ruby Ridge, Waco, etc.?

all these martial law drills, all the fema camps, things you mentioned like Waco, not exactly a conspiracy showing what they plan to do for sure. But what they are prepared to do if they have to.

I'm quite sure they know I wouldn't be a soft target, for many reasons.

People who talk tough are usually giant pussies.

HE'S A MAD LAD. SOMEONE STOP HIM!

sorry, I heard that meme somewhere...

Inb4 "POL for pizzagate tee-shirt guy!!?"

It is because he is connected to the spy system through agencies like the NSA.

i have wondered that myself...

though, his first/lastname are available on his contact us page:

https://www.pizzagategear.com/blogs/contact-us

his full name might be publicly available on his facebook page for all i know.

further random thoughts re: the chat message w/ alefantis:

  • alefantis didn't know what "mods" were ?? is that a smokescreen or is he really that naive about online forums ??

  • everything they say about him is true? except that he doesn't like kids? soo... alefantis admits to trafficking in and the ritual murder of children , but... not pedophilia ?

"everything they say about me [alefantis] is true -- except that I don't like kids.") soo... alefantis admits to trafficking in and the ritual murder of children , but... not pedophilia ?

this right here....what exactly is he saying is true?? because NOTHING good has been said...at all...zip.

This guy sells pizzagate T-shirts and is a soldier on the front lines fighting the good fight.

His name is Ryan O'Neal

Here is his website:

https://www.pizzagategear.com/collections/all

(Buy his shit.)

My god, this pizzagamegear guy Ryan is ballzy as hell. Scared out of his mind yet continues to question. This guy is a pizza shop owner yet in top 50 of most influential people in DC. Amazing conversation assuming it is true and not faked to sell shirts.

Who gives a fuck tho really? If a scam artist this insanely convincing makes a hundred bucks off t-shirts he deserves it IMO. Real possibility he needs help and support asap.

This guy sells pizzagate T-shirts

follow the money --- always knew this joke of a "conspiracy" was to enrich the alt-right

hashtag pizzagate

Too many search to validate their narrative, instead of truth.

one of our own

Speak for yourself. Not all of us buy this internet scoobydoo theatre.

edit: ...There was a man on the roof too (maybe spotter?).

Holy shit man, are you live Redditing, while going into the centerpiece of the entire dark conspiracy?

It's from the video. On google streetview you see a man of the roof of Pegasus perhaps looking right at the Google Car while on the phone. Perhaps informing someone that they may have some eyes on them.

Anyone have any ideas as to what that might be? Maybe...

If he is in fact connected to the Clintons and CIA, that means importing, which means unregistered flights, which means lots of private jets, train cars, buses, mafia / cartel connections / port authorities (holy shit!) to move the "people" for the owners and satanists.

You use reddit, so you're connected to Serena Williams, who shared the record for most US Open titles with Chris Evert, who is from Boca Raton, where convicted sex-offender Rabbi Baruch Lanner was allegedly moving to.

Why does Alefantis have access to this guys full name and why does he have pictures of this mans family? It is because he is connected to the spy system through agencies like the NSA.

It could be any one of the intelligence agencies. NSA does more passive types of surveillance, and they're looking more for insurrectionists. If it came from electronic sources, it's probably them.

If it came from active surveillance, that tends to be more FBI, occasionally CIA, or other, smaller agencies.

Edit 2: word is people are heading out to the museum tomorrow to look around a bit.

If I were genuinely convinced there was a child rape/torture room there, I'd grab as many armed men as I can muster and kick down the door with battle rifles ASAP before they can hide evidence.

But I'm not convinced of that, so I wouldn't recommend such a course of action. I've seen a lot of circumstantial evidence that this could be some kind of a setup, such as the false flag attack awhile back. There are probably real perverts there, but the evidence online still seems a bit too easy to me.

Has an "orgy of evidence" feel to it.

On one hand...

Flat out made up bullshit. Texts and messages arranged too particularly (grammar, syntax, and open ended statements) to have been written in the emotional state described...let alone should anyone here believe James the Pingpong dude is talking to this guy. Best of all, one the 50 most influential people in DC just threatened a YouTube guy...

On the other hand...maybe this guy feels he is on to something and needed a way to gain immediate, localized notoriety.

On one more...maybe this is not a scam, and just seems ridiculous, if not surreal.

I dunno...

He's just received a death threat but instead of contacting police he removes a video he was threatened about and uploads a new video explaining he has been threatened.

Then tries to sell you t-shirts at the end of it.

It doesn't take Colombo to figure out this case.

It's all fabricated and I'll bet dollars to donuts the YouTuber is astroturfing comments in both threads on conspiracy right now.

It is because he is connected to the spy system through agencies like the NSA.

lol it's just facebook.

same thing, really.

Be safe

Could it be possible that Alephanis' FB PW is hacked and this guy got trolled by someone pretending to be him?

His eyes shift a lot when he is telling facts. I want to believe, but if he was as scared as he should be, there would not be a follow up, nor would he plug his site a few times in conversation, and at the end.

The fact that he is selling pizzagate t-shirts means he monetized this, which means means he has every incentive to make some shit like this up.

Monetizing a peadophile investigation.

Yup. Do you know how much financial incentive there is for certain people to keep pushing this pizzagate story?

How much?

7

I like financial incentives. 7 r nice

Well, a lot of t-shirt money in this instance. Even if it's a few hundred bucks, why not whip up a story like this to push your product?

For others it's ad revenue. Alternative media sites get a ton of clicks when ideas like pizzagate push into the mainstream

Booooooo. This is so fake

Where does he mention the 2nd phone call?

Have any of you guys ever considered the possibility that the conversation this Youtuber is presenting could be a mishmash of truth and falsehood, that he was able to contact Alefantis, albeit briefly, but that the threats to his family (son, girlfriend, himself), were entirely his invention to spread further provocative lies against Alefantis? Also just simply to get back at Alefantis for threatening to sue him, by making it seem that the real infractor during the call was Alefantis, for threatening him with death, and not himself for querying about Pegasus and about P*zzagate in general?

I think that's much more plausible.

Right, these guys are the equivalent of used car dealers, nothing about them or what say can be believed, one must always be on one's guard against their profit-driven deceptions.

It's a Museum because Spirit Cooking is performance art.

Can you explain what you're showing here. Not tech savvy..

Be careful guys...

This guy yesterday put up a post asking what to do if in a crazy situation. It was yesterday evening. Anyone remember this? This has to have been this guy right? The advice was put it out before they can do anything in a big way like YouTube video. They talked about threatening. I swear this is the guy from the post yesterday. He made it seam hypothetical but WOW!! No shit! Crazy!

There has been no proof posted that this actually took place. The fact that everyone is buying this makes me ashamed of this subreddit. And I believe in pizzagate.

Another False Flag in the making folks.

VIDEO IS HERE: https://vid.me/txMG

Not stupid if they end up being a match for a missing kid or something.

i think it's more arrogance than stupidity....he feels untouchable.

load your gun

Is this fucking amateur hour? You think it's not loaded?

defend yourself from some assassins who have been stalking your post history on reddit and have been ordered to eliminate you because you're getting too close to revealing damning secrets about the global elite.

Yeah, you're right. The government's never killed anyone. Better to bend over and take it.

The government is not going to kill you for your post history on reddit

Which is TOTALLY what I said.

And if they wanted to kill you, they probably could do it before you have time to crawl out of bed and get you body armor on.

You'd be surprised at how often they send one guy with a pistol.

Body armor next to the bed is the ultimate half measure.

Not at all. And the fact that you're saying things like this makes it really obvious that you're ignorant about the subject area.

Next time you talk to a cop, ask them if they have a gun next to their bed.

you forgot to mention turning into Angelina Jolie after waking up ... but yeah, that's how it works, I've seen it enough times with my own eyes!

And if they wanted to kill you, they probably could do it before you have time to crawl out of bed and get you body armor on

one drone + 1 small roof piercing incendiary aimed at the thermal image in the bedroom = tragic fire accident

I bet that guy who worked for Hillary and asked reddit how to delete emails got assange'd

Ask seth rich about a guy with one pistol

Being British, I would probably roll over in the night and accidentally shoot myself in the side. Next day on Reddit - "OMFG family said he was into conspiracy theories. They killed him!!"
Well... As long is kept awareness up I suppose...

Citation please?

You want me to provide a citation of people who have been assassinated with a pistol?

I believe it was not a drawing of the same man. The jaws and other facial features are completely different.