One of our own vs James Alefantis - Alefantis literally threatened this guys whole family for exposing that the kill room is in Pegasus Museum
345 2017-01-06 by LightBringerFlex
Ok, so this guy found out that the kill room is in Pegasus Museum. See his deleted but re-uploaded video below:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQgW9qvOiik
This guy sells pizzagate T-shirts and is a soldier on the front lines fighting the good fight. Anyway, he tries to pull an interview with Alefantis and gives it a shot by messaging him on instant messenger through Facebook I believe. Alefantis goes bananas and tell hims to call within 10 seconds. The guy freaks and calls. Alefantis then threatens to kill the mans whole family and instant messages family photos of his mom and girlfriend. He mentions that the main part he wants gone is the Pegasus museum part. Alefantis is on full blown threat mode and so the guy takes it down but then he makes another video of Alefantis threatening him:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZQxYQ49p0U
Why does Alefantis have access to this guys full name and why does he have pictures of this mans family? It is because he is connected to the spy system through agencies like the NSA.
Alefantis is really pissed about the Pegasus Museum being exposed as the location for the kill room where they kill the kids after raping them. This, obviously, can attract a ton of attention to that museum and Alefantis doesn't want this.
I am assuming there is more that he is hiding than just the kill room. Anyone have any ideas as to what that might be? Maybe a Satanic ritual room?
Edit:
Kill room is in Pegasus museum which is in an alley and surrounded by buildings. There is graffiti on a brick that says "kids" with arrows pointing down (underground tunnel?). There was a man on the roof too (maybe spotter?).
Edit 2: word is people are heading out to the museum tomorrow to look around a bit.
Edit 3:
More proof this is real.
154 comments
n/a Frikoffbubbles 2017-01-06
So he is not into kids..
Drug and arms smugglings and money laundering.
I agree with the commenters, first thing he should do after the video is go to the police or local fbi.
n/a Frikoffbubbles 2017-01-06
So he is not into kids..
Drug and arms smugglings and money laundering.
I agree with the commenters, first thing he should do after the video is go to the police or local fbi.
n/a contrapasta 2017-01-06
Art dealing is often a front.
n/a Gabeers 2017-01-06
That is the point he was making with the text: "FBI liked your video"...he is (or is pretending to be) in contact with FBI.
He is freaking out though. If he really has any power, he doesn't have a blowout on he phone.
Emoji at the end looks like he is saying comet ping pong is a prostitution place.
If there is a city in the US where something like this could happen, it is Washington D.C.
Finally, top 50 most influential people? He talks like an operator...like he owns the world. But he is just a jagoff running a good cop bad cop, algorithm (where he is both cops--instant anger, instant forgiveness upon cooperation, but you owe me...constant intimidation, etc.).
And waves? There is a tsunami heading in his direction if it's all true: have we asked ourselves why the video is suddenly back up and our plucky profiteer is back in business? Is there not a possibility some guardian angel who is perhaps higher up than GQ's top 50 put his hand on his shoulder and said, "carry on my son"?
n/a pby1000 2017-01-06
Why does Daddy like Butt?
Should have asked him about the resemblance between the Podesta's and the suspects in the McCann disappearance.
n/a morbidexpression 2017-01-06
you mean the suspect singular, as it was a drawing of the same man. Fucking hell.
n/a pby1000 2017-01-06
I believe it was not a drawing of the same man. The jaws and other facial features are completely different.
n/a basedMomsen 2017-01-06
Witnesses.
n/a Anon7540 2017-01-06
Well..if he initially contacted James through FB as you say and didn't set his profile to private or use a throwaway, his name and photos will be readily available.
n/a puncheschildren 2017-01-06
Yeah, I thought contacting Alefantis was a pretty foolish move.
n/a MiG29ToW 2017-01-06
I don't know what to think of the conversation video. Part of me thinks it's phony. He didn't record the second call when he had the chance to, and if he was really afraid he wouldn't have posted this video in the first place. Also, wouldn't Alefantis have been at least slightly concerned about being recorded before making numerous threats? If that audio had gotten out on YouTube it could have been very incriminating.
n/a Uranium234 2017-01-06
And with kids and a family and using his own account? I'm all for transparancy, and taking the high road while investigating, but this was blatantly sloppy and handled unbelievably poorly. What the fuck did that guy expect to happen? "Oh no, you've caught me, I'll admit everything."
Let's play devils advocate for a moment. You're James Alefantis, and maybe you're starting to get a little nervous about all this people digging into your shit. Lo and behold some fucking gung-ho idiot shows his hand by bringing up the Pegasus museum and now you're sweating. But wait, this moron decided to attack your from his Facebook full of PII (personally identifiable information) so you fire back at him with whatever you can to shake him off the trail.
Tl;dr - Calling out Alefantis/ANYONE with all your shit visible to the public is asking for him/whoever to personally attack you.
n/a LightBringerFlex 2017-01-06
To me it looks like alefsntis spotted how naive the guy was and figured a good threat would scare him off like it has in the past assuming alefsntis has done this often in his line of business. The OP, being naive, obeyed but then uploaded a 2nd YouTube video talking about the threat without considering alefsntis would literally shit a container of bricks if he saw it. He is a bit naive but that doesn't make him a bad guy.
If this is real, OP hit a nerve with alefsntis. Luckily a few locals are heading down for a tour of the museum tomorrow I hear. Guess we'll find out.
n/a puncheschildren 2017-01-06
Could you direct me to those locals who are heading down, if it's a thread? I would love to keep tabs on it.
n/a LightBringerFlex 2017-01-06
It's somewhere on voat pizzagate.
n/a EnoughNoLibsSpam 2017-01-06
hotel california
n/a Edin8999 2017-01-06
You will find out what? Is raping a child a part of the museum tour? Because they wont find shit.
n/a abortionlord252 2017-01-06
You have to accept the angle though that Alfantis was already on mass media, denying claims. You'd think if you were that guy, it would end there especially when it's the public's word against your own and the police's.
If something goes wrong, well, his life may be the compensation that was sought for. You really can't escape this. People used to readily put their life on the line for freedom and you shouldn't denounce that.
n/a MollyNostrils23 2017-01-06
Are you sure Alefantis isn't in cahoots with this guy and just wants some money from the tee shirts plus the inevitable lawsuits once a few people start making public claims based on this 'proof'? Also, when people go over there to poke around they'll probably have a pizza too onve the smell hits them. Ker-ching!
n/a Pazians 2017-01-06
Great lets see how it plays out. I wont be anonymous anymore.
n/a Uranium234 2017-01-06
After some consideration, I think what you did was good move. I read your comment about Alefantus being very flagrant and open about what he did in secret and agree with you that maybe this was a great move to draw him out. Honestly now, this guy was a fucking dumbass to keep all of his stuff up on public social media, and has been the Achilles (lol) heel of Pizzagate and it's investigation.
I apologize for initially thinking your move was stupid (though it is a controlled risk considering your family/friends) but if it works and parallels the actions of Alefantis than it who am I to criticize it.
n/a LarryHolmes 2017-01-06
"Delete it or I'll kill your whole family" is a close relative of "You got me. I confess".
n/a RDay 2017-01-06
It's also a federal crime. Just what he has in texts violates several federal statutes about using telephony to transmit threats.
If Mr O'neal wants to be the hero, he would have had this guy busted. Yeah by who, the FBI? Local DC cops?
n/a ARYAWILLKILLYOU 2017-01-06
O'Neal also said he is in Galveston, so not only an FCC violation it's a cross jurisdictional violation as well (crossing state lines). Let's see what the Galveston cops do, or don't do.
n/a kingofthemonsters 2017-01-06
This guy was an idiot for not recording the phone call. I actually got mad.
n/a RDay 2017-01-06
I actually got suspicious then because he would have to be an idiot. Then he show what is reported to be photos of his family on the 2nd video, yet he is concerned for their safety?
bruh... someone is not thinking very well and he def does not have a Texas accent.
n/a kingofthemonsters 2017-01-06
I made that comment before I saw that he didn't record the second call because he was out "doing something with someone". Bull fucking shit.
n/a Hermit_Kidd 2017-01-06
I know im not supposed to just type lol, so i added this preamble...
lol
n/a rmandraque 2017-01-06
psy op psy op
n/a martinskrtel 2017-01-06
Uhhh, why would you hide who you are when exposing someone? What difference would it make?
n/a HillarysPizzaParty 2017-01-06
People have been killed investigating this kind of shit before. And then people screech that we're being paranoid when we tell them not to personally contact a suspected mass pedophile/murder conspirator...
n/a EnoughNoLibsSpam 2017-01-06
Gary Caradori was the prosecutor in the Franklin Coverup
he was "Wellstoned"
(died in a small plane crash, like Senator Wellstone)
http://google.com/search?q=Gary+Caradori
n/a RDay 2017-01-06
this whole drama could also be a false flag designed to scare the casual 'hobbyist' away from the subject.
n/a HillarysPizzaParty 2017-01-06
I've had the same suspicion for some time.
n/a scumbagt 2017-01-06
For some reason they deleted this article off voat/pizzagate
n/a LightBringerFlex 2017-01-06
Alefantis ordered it by threatening the OP and so he had it removed but there are other voat articles.
https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/comments/1538422
n/a HairyDonkeyBallz 2017-01-06
Why are you so convinced that this happened? There is no conclusive evidence this guy is telling the truth.
n/a GoFyourself2x 2017-01-06
He has his full name bc he connected him they fb messenger lol fb has all your pics, name and city location etc etc
n/a HillarysPizzaParty 2017-01-06
He needs to turn all his electronic devices off and get the fuck out of dodge before he disappears.
You think these high-level pedo rings can't handle a few cops?
n/a MollyNostrils23 2017-01-06
*pay.
n/a suckmuckduck 2017-01-06
Maybe he's tired of people accusing him of be a pedo without any proof, but just random delusions.
n/a IFitStereotypesWell 2017-01-06
And being contacted on Facebook. After watching that video, Ryan seems really oblivious. If that video is real and JA is innocent, man do I feel bad for that man.. hindsight is 20/20, this guy's life is already ruined innocent or guilty
n/a chipper1001 2017-01-06
"If that video is real and JA is innocent..."
How would the video being real prove his innocence? JA even says with the exception of kids everything they say about him is true.
n/a JimmyDeSanta 2017-01-06
This may be a stretch, but he's implying that he's into satanic shit and killing people as a method of scaring the dude so he can convince him to take the stuff down?
n/a IFitStereotypesWell 2017-01-06
Sorry my wording was confusing, if the video Ryan posted was real, as in that really is JA texting him, and if JA is innocent, it's just a normal human being accused and harassed,which is really mest up.
n/a VirulentThoughts 2017-01-06
Sadly, this is the most likely scenario. Dude got wrecked like a Salem Witch on less evidence.
n/a IFitStereotypesWell 2017-01-06
If anything this humanized JA for me. "It's my hobby" hobby is ruining some guy's life for fun, selling shirts, contacting him on FB..etc etc
n/a sharkcock 2017-01-06
Not sure if Alefantis would incriminate himself in this way. I'm sure he's surrounded by lawyers & consultants advising him on every move he makes, and going off via text messages through an "official" Alefantis fb profile just makes 0 sense for a guy in his position. Our friend Ryan might have gotten the ultimate shit-your-pants troll. Who knows.
n/a LightBringerFlex 2017-01-06
It's typical for criminals to make mistakes. They only have to be caught in 1 mistake.
n/a AmadeusK482 2017-01-06
If you're willing to be so careless to assume that a person is guilty until proven innocent then I can't help but assume that you're a backwards thinker.
n/a HillarysPizzaParty 2017-01-06
I assume people are innocent until they post pictures of kids taped to a table in their restaurant that has pedophile logos on it. You don't get the benefit of the doubt from me after that.
n/a RPmatrix 2017-01-06
that kid is his niece ... had me confused until I found that out as she was also smiling in the photo
n/a HillarysPizzaParty 2017-01-06
100% true. Most criminals are fucking retarded.
n/a Llewdin 2017-01-06
Not true.
The ones that get CAUGHT are fucking retarded.
n/a HillarysPizzaParty 2017-01-06
Yeah, that's a fair assessment.
n/a Monononoke 2017-01-06
His mistakes were Instagram photos. You think this guy, who is creating she'll businesses, suddenly thinks he's going to engage in a text convo with someone research him and nothing will com of it?
Either this is real and Alefantis wanted this to play out like this or its fake and makes everyone's lives more difficult.
Either way this guy is stupid. And really? No recordings of the phone convos? I call bullshit.
n/a Pazians 2017-01-06
Its definitley stupid. But he isnt the smartest cookie with all the shit he has been posting. If pizzagate is real this dude is a bonified idiot.
n/a scaredshtlessintx 2017-01-06
i think it's more arrogance than stupidity....he feels untouchable.
n/a Pazians 2017-01-06
Yep he has the kid fucker confidence. You could smell it on podesta the night of the night of the election
n/a LightBringerFlex 2017-01-06
That confidence is what we need right now. Fear is what empowers the elite.
n/a Ilsaluna 2017-01-06
Everything else has already been said, so I'm going to go straight to a question I have.
I don't understand why James Alefantis is displayed as the contact when he showed the first round of texts but when he showed round two, the name was gone and it was only the phone number. If it was reversed and digits for the first text, it would totally make sense. Something is off.
n/a chipper1001 2017-01-06
The first part is Facebook messenger, where they list names. The second is a text exchange over phone.
n/a Ilsaluna 2017-01-06
Thanks for clarifying.
In that case, dude's in waaaaay over his head.
n/a MiG29ToW 2017-01-06
I don't know what to think of the conversation video. Part of me thinks it's phony. He didn't record the second call when he had the chance to, and if he was really afraid he wouldn't have posted this video in the first place. Also, wouldn't Alefantis have been at least slightly concerned about being recorded before making numerous threats? If that audio had gotten out on YouTube it could have been very incriminating if the conversation happened as he described it.
n/a mjcohe2 2017-01-06
I'm skeptical also. However, anger is anger, even rich, powerful criminals do stupid, stupid things. He also probably feels the heat and it's probably driving him mad. I have been waiting months. I think Comet Ping Pong will either close due to "unforeseen circumstances" or will burn down or be sold off. Mark this post.
n/a scaredshtlessintx 2017-01-06
keep in mind....this pizza shop owner rubs elbows with the most powerful people in the world.....i don't blame OP for being scared....if someone who knows Hilary and Obama threatens your life....you re-evaluate your situation.....he very well may end up a martyr.
n/a huktheavenged 2017-01-06
reise reise....rammstein
n/a hadhad69 2017-01-06
It's clearly fake.
He's trying to sell t-shirt and make ad money.
If he had received a death threat, why not involve the police? He'd be a pizzagate hero.
n/a Fleer57 2017-01-06
its not fake, he has posted proof of the FB conversation with Alefantis.
n/a hadhad69 2017-01-06
The entire text can easily be faked with inspect element.
Are you all new to the internet? He's trying to monetise his YouTube videos and sell you t-shirts.
It's not even a clever fake, if the death threat was credible wouldn't s reasonable person contact the police?
n/a Fleer57 2017-01-06
It's not easy at all to fake that with inspect element.. a scrolling chat area with profile pic, links working etc.. he'd have to be pretty fuckin clever to rig that up. And he's been doing legit awesome research for a long time.. why would anyone not take him seriously when he's made real discoveries?
n/a hadhad69 2017-01-06
It's not hard.
Have a chat with fake account, then inspect and change the name. Done. Redirect name link to JAs Facebook page. You could do it in 20 minutes or less.
n/a 568-47-0008 2017-01-06
20 mins if you've never used inspect element before. Can't believe people are falling for this.
n/a hadhad69 2017-01-06
I meant the whole deal! The chat and video too.
People are so easily duped.
n/a sneakygee_ 2017-01-06
It's easy, I just replicated it in 30 seconds to make sure fb didn't have something stopping you.. Inspect element > highlight text you want to change > type in desired text > redirect links to desired locations > swap thumbnails and you're good to go.
n/a 568-47-0008 2017-01-06
Its super easy mate. I could knock a convincing chat up in 5 mins.
n/a BigPharmaSucks 2017-01-06
Ryan is making a claim that could be libel, and sued in court if he's lying. Selling shirts is a bit on the questionable side, maybe. But how much do you think he'd make selling 100 shirts? Ever tried to sell shirts online, it's near impossible. It's not a get rich quick scheme, or make a bunch of money quick scheme. Nothing wrong with questioning his evidence of the threats, but I don't see the selling of shirts as a reason to immediately discredit his intentions.
I get the disdain for people trying to profit from the investigation. But how is it any different than Reality Calls or David Seaman (arguably some of the best faces for Pizzagate). They literally ask for donations. If you give 20 bucks to either of them for a donation, they get all of it. If you give 20 bucks for a shirt, he might get 3 or 4 bucks. I don't get the separation, in fact, it seems quite a bit less profitable to sell shirts than to directly ask for donations.
n/a hadhad69 2017-01-06
I think those guys are charlatans too.
n/a tjskydive 2017-01-06
I agree.... the odds of JA engaging this idiot are worse than me banging Ellen Degenerate
n/a MollyNostrils23 2017-01-06
Somebody should phone on his behalf. That might help to get to the bottom of things faster.
n/a Redchevron 2017-01-06
Lets not forget this is the same guy who posted photos of his killroom on Instagram.
Not exactly a criminal mastermind.
n/a IMSORRY_IMDUMB 2017-01-06
Did I miss something? The video only shows screenshots of FB and text conversations. Do screenshots (which can easily be fabricated) of a FB conversation really qualify as legit evidence a supposed conversation actually took place?
n/a MiG29ToW 2017-01-06
No.
n/a beltfedshooter 2017-01-06
Streisand effect.
n/a SpuckFez 2017-01-06
Somebody needs to collect samples form the drains. They will wash and bleach, but the sooner someone gets the sample the more likely it will contain evidence.
n/a Omegawop 2017-01-06
And what exactly are you going to do with samples from the drain? Test for DNA? Do I need to explain how stupid that would be?
n/a silkenindiana 2017-01-06
Not stupid if they end up being a match for a missing kid or something.
n/a ProgrammingPants 2017-01-06
Lol we're not amateurs we clean the drains after every ritual.
n/a morbidexpression 2017-01-06
fighting the good fight? He seems like a liar smearing an innocent man and providing no evidence.
n/a LightBringerFlex 2017-01-06
Alefantis is an innocent man?
n/a flartibartfast 2017-01-06
Has he been convicted of a crime? No? Then yes he is innocent you idiot. It is the basis of your legal system for fuck's sake.
n/a Gabeers 2017-01-06
Get the pipes. In the threading. DNA may also be in hair. Bring a pipe snake, lol
n/a wheelinganddealing 2017-01-06
This guy is a moron. Contacts this psycho via FB with his real info. Doesn't record the threatening phone call. Jesus christ rookie. You are investigating the Conspiracy of the century and you're using 0 security to hide your identity?
WEW LAD
n/a EtTuBrut 2017-01-06
You're right. I find it hard to believe that his friend sitting next to him couldn't get his phone out and record the phone on loudspeaker. Honestly it's possible JA specifically threatened him about recording the conversation and would fuck his family up anyway if the tape got out.
If he was smart he could've kept up the relationship with and maybe got some more answers. But haven't your family threatened like that must be demoralizing.
n/a jimmydorry 2017-01-06
I recall him saying that he tried. He has given pretty much all of the proof that shows that all the other stuff is 99% likely to be legit, including that it was JA.
n/a HillarysPizzaParty 2017-01-06
I sleep with a gun and body armor next to my bed because I say bad shit about the government sometimes under a pseudonym. This guy is a fucking moron.
n/a ParanoidFactoid 2017-01-06
lol, wut!?!?!
n/a Cotecozonia 2017-01-06
Yeah man, you never know when you're going to hear some noise at night and have to groggily get out of bed, put on your body armor, load your gun and defend yourself from some assassins who have been stalking your post history on reddit and have been ordered to eliminate you because you're getting too close to revealing damning secrets about the global elite.
n/a HillarysPizzaParty 2017-01-06
Is this fucking amateur hour? You think it's not loaded?
Yeah, you're right. The government's never killed anyone. Better to bend over and take it.
n/a Cotecozonia 2017-01-06
The government is not going to kill you for your post history on reddit. And if they wanted to kill you, they probably could do it before you have time to crawl out of bed and get you body armor on. I mean obviously, ou aren't that worried about being killed by the government. You are still posting here. Body armor next to the bed is the ultimate half measure. Maybe it makes you feel better but it doesn't do shit.
n/a HillarysPizzaParty 2017-01-06
Which is TOTALLY what I said.
You'd be surprised at how often they send one guy with a pistol.
Not at all. And the fact that you're saying things like this makes it really obvious that you're ignorant about the subject area.
Next time you talk to a cop, ask them if they have a gun next to their bed.
n/a Cotecozonia 2017-01-06
Which is TOTALLY what I said.
What you said was that you keep body armor and a gun next to your bed because you say bad things about the government under a pseudonym.
But the government doesn't give a shit about you. Sorry. You're just another dude on the internet.
You'd be surprised at how often they send one guy with a pistol.
Haha. Citation please? You're talking out of your ass.
n/a jdotg 2017-01-06
Ask seth rich about a guy with one pistol
n/a Cotecozonia 2017-01-06
If only he had body armor next to his bed.
n/a jdotg 2017-01-06
Yeah it was a shame. He was leaving his girlfriend. If only he was hone. Or maybe you mean eyes in the back of his head?
n/a huktheavenged 2017-01-06
seth rich-RIP.
n/a HillarysPizzaParty 2017-01-06
You want me to provide a citation of people who have been assassinated with a pistol?
n/a Cotecozonia 2017-01-06
Well how often does the government send just one guy with a pistol to assassinate one of its citizens? And how do you know?
n/a BiglyMAGA 2017-01-06
It's okay dude.
HillarysPizzaParty watched Furious 7, and relies on The Rock shooting out a Helicopter with a pistol.
n/a older_than_dirt 2017-01-06
http://www.americanfreepress.net/html/child_exploitation_investigato.html
n/a a-dark-passenger 2017-01-06
Would I? Show me how many times they've done it. Let's see if I'm surprised.
I honestly just come in here to be entertained by types like you.
n/a HillarysPizzaParty 2017-01-06
This is too funny. Multiple posters attacking me, demanding a source for the claim that people are sometimes assassinated by a lone gunman with a pistol.
Wouldn't surprise me if you got paid to do it...
n/a RDay 2017-01-06
one drone + 1 small roof piercing incendiary aimed at the thermal image in the bedroom = tragic fire accident
n/a Horus_Krishna_5 2017-01-06
I bet that guy who worked for Hillary and asked reddit how to delete emails got assange'd
n/a RPmatrix 2017-01-06
you forgot to mention turning into Angelina Jolie after waking up ... but yeah, that's how it works, I've seen it enough times with my own eyes!
n/a MollyNostrils23 2017-01-06
Being British, I would probably roll over in the night and accidentally shoot myself in the side. Next day on Reddit - "OMFG family said he was into conspiracy theories. They killed him!!"
Well... As long is kept awareness up I suppose...
n/a HillarysPizzaParty 2017-01-06
Also, criminals. Although, I guess that includes a lot of the government.
n/a Horus_Krishna_5 2017-01-06
why admit that tho
I have tons of safeguards, no I won't go into specifics so they know what to avoid
n/a hadhad69 2017-01-06
Genius safeguards. Like using /u/Horus_Krishna_5 AND /u/Horus_Krishna_4!
I hope you use tor on your tablet on /u/Horus_Krishna_7!
n/a Horus_Krishna_5 2017-01-06
keep getting wrongly banned for statin painful facts
not trying to hide or I'd change the name more than just the number
n/a hadhad69 2017-01-06
Not a great safeguard is it. Reddit stores all comments in perpetuity so if you were "busted" the authorities could unravel your expert trolling across multiple accounts.
I mean obviously that's not going to happen because no one cares about what you're saying. Point is its not great opsec.
n/a Horus_Krishna_5 2017-01-06
other option is just not posting on reddit then?
n/a 568-47-0008 2017-01-06
Reddit usernames dont even matter. One could be using tails and tor for reddit use. Sequential names would be easier to remember. I bet he uses the same password for all accounts though.
n/a HillarysPizzaParty 2017-01-06
That's a good thing to avoid.
n/a MollyNostrils23 2017-01-06
I would have to laugh if there was a completely different user called Horus_Krishna_11 who got banned in the process.
n/a HillarysPizzaParty 2017-01-06
It was mostly a joke. I'm quite sure they know I wouldn't be a soft target, for many reasons.
I also don't think they'd come after me, because I'm not an insurrectionist. I know a violent revolution is worse than the current regime.
n/a Horus_Krishna_5 2017-01-06
ya same here
tons of violent revolutions all thru history so it's a legit worry, best way to avoid it is keep pressuring the establishment to reform by spreading painful facts
n/a HillarysPizzaParty 2017-01-06
They almost always fail. There are a few situations I might engage in insurrection, but it's things like Stalin-style purges. And in those situations, I think a military coup would overthrow them first.
They know all of this, BTW. They know they would lose to an insurrection, quite quickly. I'd say there's a ~50% likelihood that even moderate armed resistance would lead to military coup within a day or two.
Ever wonder why they backed off the Bundy Ranch situation, in sharp contrast to the way things were handled at Ruby Ridge, Waco, etc.?
n/a Horus_Krishna_5 2017-01-06
all these martial law drills, all the fema camps, things you mentioned like Waco, not exactly a conspiracy showing what they plan to do for sure. But what they are prepared to do if they have to.
n/a BiglyMAGA 2017-01-06
People who talk tough are usually giant pussies.
n/a RDay 2017-01-06
HE'S A MAD LAD. SOMEONE STOP HIM!
sorry, I heard that meme somewhere...
n/a MollyNostrils23 2017-01-06
Inb4 "POL for pizzagate tee-shirt guy!!?"
n/a sheasie 2017-01-06
i have wondered that myself...
though, his first/lastname are available on his contact us page:
https://www.pizzagategear.com/blogs/contact-us
his full name might be publicly available on his facebook page for all i know.
further random thoughts re: the chat message w/ alefantis:
alefantis didn't know what "mods" were ?? is that a smokescreen or is he really that naive about online forums ??
everything they say about him is true? except that he doesn't like kids? soo... alefantis admits to trafficking in and the ritual murder of children , but... not pedophilia ?
n/a scaredshtlessintx 2017-01-06
"everything they say about me [alefantis] is true -- except that I don't like kids.") soo... alefantis admits to trafficking in and the ritual murder of children , but... not pedophilia ?
this right here....what exactly is he saying is true?? because NOTHING good has been said...at all...zip.
n/a sheasie 2017-01-06
His name is Ryan O'Neal
Here is his website:
https://www.pizzagategear.com/collections/all
(Buy his shit.)
n/a EricCarver 2017-01-06
My god, this pizzagamegear guy Ryan is ballzy as hell. Scared out of his mind yet continues to question. This guy is a pizza shop owner yet in top 50 of most influential people in DC. Amazing conversation assuming it is true and not faked to sell shirts.
n/a GhostyBoy 2017-01-06
Who gives a fuck tho really? If a scam artist this insanely convincing makes a hundred bucks off t-shirts he deserves it IMO. Real possibility he needs help and support asap.
n/a AmadeusK482 2017-01-06
follow the money --- always knew this joke of a "conspiracy" was to enrich the alt-right
hashtag pizzagate
n/a HairyDonkeyBallz 2017-01-06
Too many search to validate their narrative, instead of truth.
n/a StrongDad1978 2017-01-06
Speak for yourself. Not all of us buy this internet scoobydoo theatre.
n/a austenten 2017-01-06
Holy shit man, are you live Redditing, while going into the centerpiece of the entire dark conspiracy?
n/a RemixxMG 2017-01-06
It's from the video. On google streetview you see a man of the roof of Pegasus perhaps looking right at the Google Car while on the phone. Perhaps informing someone that they may have some eyes on them.
n/a austenten 2017-01-06
If he is in fact connected to the Clintons and CIA, that means importing, which means unregistered flights, which means lots of private jets, train cars, buses, mafia / cartel connections / port authorities (holy shit!) to move the "people" for the owners and satanists.
n/a uppitydownity 2017-01-06
You use reddit, so you're connected to Serena Williams, who shared the record for most US Open titles with Chris Evert, who is from Boca Raton, where convicted sex-offender Rabbi Baruch Lanner was allegedly moving to.
n/a HillarysPizzaParty 2017-01-06
It could be any one of the intelligence agencies. NSA does more passive types of surveillance, and they're looking more for insurrectionists. If it came from electronic sources, it's probably them.
If it came from active surveillance, that tends to be more FBI, occasionally CIA, or other, smaller agencies.
If I were genuinely convinced there was a child rape/torture room there, I'd grab as many armed men as I can muster and kick down the door with battle rifles ASAP before they can hide evidence.
But I'm not convinced of that, so I wouldn't recommend such a course of action. I've seen a lot of circumstantial evidence that this could be some kind of a setup, such as the false flag attack awhile back. There are probably real perverts there, but the evidence online still seems a bit too easy to me.
Has an "orgy of evidence" feel to it.
n/a iknowyourmommy 2017-01-06
On one hand...
Flat out made up bullshit. Texts and messages arranged too particularly (grammar, syntax, and open ended statements) to have been written in the emotional state described...let alone should anyone here believe James the Pingpong dude is talking to this guy. Best of all, one the 50 most influential people in DC just threatened a YouTube guy...
On the other hand...maybe this guy feels he is on to something and needed a way to gain immediate, localized notoriety.
On one more...maybe this is not a scam, and just seems ridiculous, if not surreal.
I dunno...
n/a hadhad69 2017-01-06
He's just received a death threat but instead of contacting police he removes a video he was threatened about and uploads a new video explaining he has been threatened.
Then tries to sell you t-shirts at the end of it.
It doesn't take Colombo to figure out this case.
It's all fabricated and I'll bet dollars to donuts the YouTuber is astroturfing comments in both threads on conspiracy right now.
n/a RemixxMG 2017-01-06
lol it's just facebook.
n/a high-valyrian 2017-01-06
same thing, really.
n/a trytheCOLDchai 2017-01-06
Be safe
n/a RDay 2017-01-06
Could it be possible that Alephanis' FB PW is hacked and this guy got trolled by someone pretending to be him?
His eyes shift a lot when he is telling facts. I want to believe, but if he was as scared as he should be, there would not be a follow up, nor would he plug his site a few times in conversation, and at the end.
n/a JudiciousJay 2017-01-06
The fact that he is selling pizzagate t-shirts means he monetized this, which means means he has every incentive to make some shit like this up.
n/a 568-47-0008 2017-01-06
Monetizing a peadophile investigation.
n/a RuPaulver 2017-01-06
Yup. Do you know how much financial incentive there is for certain people to keep pushing this pizzagate story?
n/a Hermit_Kidd 2017-01-06
How much?
n/a a-dark-passenger 2017-01-06
7
n/a Hermit_Kidd 2017-01-06
I like financial incentives. 7 r nice
n/a RuPaulver 2017-01-06
Well, a lot of t-shirt money in this instance. Even if it's a few hundred bucks, why not whip up a story like this to push your product?
For others it's ad revenue. Alternative media sites get a ton of clicks when ideas like pizzagate push into the mainstream
n/a daddie_o 2017-01-06
Booooooo. This is so fake
n/a IM_NOT_CIA_PROMISE 2017-01-06
Where does he mention the 2nd phone call?
n/a andronicii 2017-01-06
Have any of you guys ever considered the possibility that the conversation this Youtuber is presenting could be a mishmash of truth and falsehood, that he was able to contact Alefantis, albeit briefly, but that the threats to his family (son, girlfriend, himself), were entirely his invention to spread further provocative lies against Alefantis? Also just simply to get back at Alefantis for threatening to sue him, by making it seem that the real infractor during the call was Alefantis, for threatening him with death, and not himself for querying about Pegasus and about P*zzagate in general?
n/a Cotecozonia 2017-01-06
I think that's much more plausible.
n/a andronicii 2017-01-06
Right, these guys are the equivalent of used car dealers, nothing about them or what say can be believed, one must always be on one's guard against their profit-driven deceptions.
n/a EWE_Likey 2017-01-06
It's a Museum because Spirit Cooking is performance art.
n/a mattmopar 2017-01-06
It's fake: https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=osyhtJTg9eE
n/a ZherdevIsTheGoat 2017-01-06
Can you explain what you're showing here. Not tech savvy..
n/a Kancer86 2017-01-06
Be careful guys...
n/a thisissomebull4sure 2017-01-06
This guy yesterday put up a post asking what to do if in a crazy situation. It was yesterday evening. Anyone remember this? This has to have been this guy right? The advice was put it out before they can do anything in a big way like YouTube video. They talked about threatening. I swear this is the guy from the post yesterday. He made it seam hypothetical but WOW!! No shit! Crazy!
n/a liverlungfr 2017-01-06
There has been no proof posted that this actually took place. The fact that everyone is buying this makes me ashamed of this subreddit. And I believe in pizzagate.
n/a Llewdin 2017-01-06
Another False Flag in the making folks.
n/a ApocalypseOfColor 2017-01-06
VIDEO IS HERE: https://vid.me/txMG
n/a silkenindiana 2017-01-06
Not stupid if they end up being a match for a missing kid or something.
n/a scaredshtlessintx 2017-01-06
i think it's more arrogance than stupidity....he feels untouchable.
n/a HillarysPizzaParty 2017-01-06
Is this fucking amateur hour? You think it's not loaded?
Yeah, you're right. The government's never killed anyone. Better to bend over and take it.
n/a HillarysPizzaParty 2017-01-06
Which is TOTALLY what I said.
You'd be surprised at how often they send one guy with a pistol.
Not at all. And the fact that you're saying things like this makes it really obvious that you're ignorant about the subject area.
Next time you talk to a cop, ask them if they have a gun next to their bed.
n/a RPmatrix 2017-01-06
you forgot to mention turning into Angelina Jolie after waking up ... but yeah, that's how it works, I've seen it enough times with my own eyes!
n/a RDay 2017-01-06
one drone + 1 small roof piercing incendiary aimed at the thermal image in the bedroom = tragic fire accident
n/a Horus_Krishna_5 2017-01-06
I bet that guy who worked for Hillary and asked reddit how to delete emails got assange'd
n/a jdotg 2017-01-06
Ask seth rich about a guy with one pistol
n/a MollyNostrils23 2017-01-06
Being British, I would probably roll over in the night and accidentally shoot myself in the side. Next day on Reddit - "OMFG family said he was into conspiracy theories. They killed him!!"
Well... As long is kept awareness up I suppose...
n/a HillarysPizzaParty 2017-01-06
You want me to provide a citation of people who have been assassinated with a pistol?
n/a pby1000 2017-01-06
I believe it was not a drawing of the same man. The jaws and other facial features are completely different.