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Nice post. Easy to talk shit about politics but not many people actually put it all together in a good post like this.

/r/conspiracy is MUCH more like /r/news and /r/politics than /r/news or /r/politics

Many users of those subs (especially DNC supporters) have recently flocked here to try and counter Trump's general popularity in this sub.

You'll see them make comments like "what is this the_donald," when what they really mean is "why didn't you vote for Hillary Clinton like me"

There are more and more of them everyday. I'm certain they can't actually construct an argument without saying something negative about Donald Trump, despite the various theories here that have nothing to do with him.

So if someone is critical of TD then they are actually just HRC supporters? That's a shallow way of looking at the world. People can be anti Hillary for obvious reasons but also anti TD for obvious reasons.

Right. And that's exactly what they do.

I'm not for either one, but my god do I get a kick out of squirming crybaby democrats and their hilarious childish complaints.

Best of luck to the DNC with their carpet bombing the middle east, deploying ISIS, crying Russian hackers etc.

Poor them.

lololol.

So we should blindly support Trump win all this Goldman Sachs and Exxon nominations?

I'm all about hating some DNC but we should also stay aware of the insiders and elites Trump is putting in power.

Which Trump nomination was currently(read as of last year) working for GS or Exxon?

Didjaknow that the 4 major banks in America control the 4 major oil companies?

Tillerson was the Exxon CEO into 2016. Mnuchin is plenty swampy after 17 years at GS regardless of when he left- you'd think that /r/conspiracy of all places would have a handle on GS influence around the world.

didjaknow that banks are dependent on oil companies as well as the other way around? Owe a million to a bank you have a problem, owe a billion it's their problem and all that.

I'm not against Hilary, can't be against something dead and buried. I am disgusted by the corruption that takes place, I want some of that corruption money too. It's mostly out of jealousy.

I support Trump but believe this sub is being overrun by the_donald. The reality is when the_donald sends its people here they arent sending their best

And when you factor in how bad the left wingers are compared to the_donalders, you can imagine how horrible this place is becoming having to read shitposts like yours.

It is fucking amazing they can't write a sentence without mentioning boogeyman Trump, who they created.

That is the hilarious part. They hand selected the 3 preceived weakest RNC candidates (Trump, Carson, Cruz) and elevated them. Trump ended up winning and they thought he would be easy. They did not count on just how incredibly unelectable Clinton really is.

Wow great insight. I knew Carson's number were inflated, however it seems like they hated Cruz only slightly less than Trump.

true

Is he actually that popular here though? I see him mentioned in a negative light all the time. I guess it's just bleed in from the mainstream propaganda.

If we are going to talk about partisans ruining this sub, it is particularly iron that you ignore the dozens of wild conspiracy theories about Clinton had proliferated here. Remember the "hidden earpiece", the "bump in Hillary's clothes hiding some machine", the "she has Parkinson's!" saga, the "she killed Rich, Braverman and others" saga, the "Podesta/Hillary/Alefantis pedophillia occurring in the basement of a pizza restaurant", along with many others.

The nerve that you Rightist reactionaries have to complain about partisan conspiracy theories smearing your master, the man who created the Birther hoax!

I'm certain they can't actually construct an argument without saying something negative about Hillary Clinton

FTFY

Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump aren't the same type of people.

One has a body count a mile long, the other not so much.

You should argue with them. I think if someone from /r/politics would start to read /r/conspiracy he would newer go back to /r/politics

except for all the pizzagate vote manipulation...

Up or down?

with how much pizzagate stuff makes conspiracy front page i think it would have to be up. it's obviously well known.

R.politics was taken over basically overnight during the election. This wasn't a 'conspiracy theory' the CTR had a budget of millions to do it. Not just on reddit, facebook and other sites too. People assumed this would immediately stop after the election, but it appears not to be the case.

It happened over Labor Day weekend fwiw.

That sounds about right. And the great thing about reddit is downvoting. Basically you can totally control the right for someone to be heard. Drop them to negative, and 99% of people won't take the time to expand the conversation.

So reddit doesn't really equal free speech. Paid speed yes. Seniority speech, yes sort of.

Depends on how downvoted it is. It's like you have to see how vile and repugnant that post had to be to get abused into oblivion, and maybe to send it further into hell. It's most deliciously ironic when you look and you actually agree with what's being said.

Depends on how downvoted it is.

What if one individual has the means to downvote a post dozens of times?

or not even voting, just putting in a number.

And they do it within minutes of the comment being posted. This along with mass up voting the talking points keeps dissenting ideas out of the conversation because few will scroll to the bottom. It was so obvious it was happening to anyone who was active on the sub at the time.

CtR drove me out of the politics sub - I wanted an even "Switzerland" to discuss, but that did not fit with their model.

I think they do have bots, automated, as they cannot staff keyboards 24/7 with a hundred folk.

Most posts get down voted into oblivion before they ever get 10 votes.

and we now know from spez that mods can artificially manipulate post and comment vote counts

Labor Day was the start of it after the convention the bans started heavily. It's as if the unity the left promised was by silencing the opposition. Sorry that I won't bend a knee for her holiness, but fuck the echo chamber they have set up is worse for the progress of the community silencing discussion is a tool of totalitarian regimes but i guess the tolerant left is only kind if they get their way. Spoiled little brats.

Absolutely not, the difference was obvious immediately after the conventions in July. Infact IIRC that's exactly when CTR got the boost from 1 to 6 million too, either way the difference was noticable way before Labor Day.

Lul, is it hard to believe that many people hate Trump? Must be Hillary's paid shills even though the election is long done!

Oddly enough, I don't ever see you guys in /r/conspiracy talking about Russia's documented internet trolls. I guess because they say what you want to hear.

Yep. We're all Russian sympathizers here.....

Are you saying that sarcastically? I don't read this sub a lot, but from what I've seen it is very pro-Trump and pro-Russia

It's anti-establishment. From the lens of a Hillary supporter, it's easy to see how you'd conflate that as pro-Trump and pro-Russia, but to those who do contribute to this sin, Trump and Russia are temporarily aligned with the sentiment of the sun because they're actors in the news who are bucking the state-sponsored narrative.

Well, now that Trump and the Republicans are the establishment I look forward to you guys scrutinizing them for the next 4 years. It seems there is a lot of material to work with

Too bad you didn't know me when Bush was in office. Get over yourself and contribute some good articles and discussions instead of moaning and pissing about what you do or don't perceive in your rare stroll down this subreddit.

The hypocrisy of some tool who admits he almost never comes here telling is what we do and don't discuss most is just mind boggling.

I'm posting in a thread titled "r/Politics = State Sponsored Propaganda?" that is sitting at 86% upvoted. Lol. You are a tool that can't admit there is blatant favoritism in this sub. I'm sure you all will be just as critical of the Trump administration. Bye!

Stick around and find out. In the mean time leave your prejudice at the door

Covering your ears and shouting dogma you were taught so your ideas don't have to be challenged in the slightest, how intellectually brave.

the next 4 years.

8.

If this subreddit is highly overweighted in support of the coming administration, that is the most basic from of pro-establishment.

I hope to see Conspiracy doing far more posting, up voting, and investigation of Donald Trump and the long-time establishment Republican Party that he leads ...

Now that the election is over. Thank you. :)

Unfortunately a bunch of people from T_D have festered in deep on this sub. However a lot of us (I would argue most of us) here still are able to look past party lines and view things more objectively. Trump will be scrutinized over the next few years here, don't worry. The only reason he's not cannon fodder here very often is because he already airs so much of his dirty laundry in public and on twitter.

What if leading establishment Republicans and a few Democrats got together to create this whole Donald Trump "outsider" thing?

This entire election was likely the well-planned result of a bipartisan establishment set-up. While it was possible that it could have failed, as happened in 2012 (see above), it wound up succeeding. Now, stock market elites and masterminds of the plan begin to reap the rewards. Hope and change remains elusive. Source

The more I see, the more I find that to be likely. We've been fooled badly this time.

I've found myself wondering that a lot recently as well. There is some element of coziness historically between politicians and, say, Wall Street for so long - quid pro quo of corporate America/Wall Street takes the heat publicly and politicians public image preserved while they continue their favorable regulations an "oversight" - I see Donald Trump as possible being a pied piper; not like DNC leaked email meant, but like a way to put in a corporate puppet this cycle knowing a huge market crash is coming and D can stay clean and R can stay clean since they never really embraced him and can claim he hijacked the party and that's not really what they stand for (or at least they can spin that with relative ease).

Great idea. If you think about corporate America, this is a win-win-win situation.

If Donald Trump exercises more than a few ounces of independence after he institutes a large amount of the long running Republican agenda, he can be scapegoated and the Republicans get exactly what they want but still come out looking better than when they went in. Amazing really how well that works.

At the end, the Republicans are more pro-business and the Democrats slide over too.

I think Republicans are painted pro-business effectively, but we've had record domestic drilling and unending war entanglements in the last 8 years, among other examples. The Corporate duopoly just does a good job of pacifying anti-corporate voters by throwing them a enough pro-environment or pro-social issues bones that don't ultimately rock the corporate boat. There's a reason the anti-Russia stuff is bypartisan....both parties never met a war they didn't like. Cha-Ching.

No, better characterized as skeptical of government, and all. Even more skeptical at the idea of banging war drums towards a nuclear superpower for no good reason.

Dude this sub is full on pro-Trump. The change occurred in the last year, but they will tell you to stop saying that. They are creating an alternate reality in this sub and telling people it's not that way. Anyone with half a brain can see it.

fuck trump, russia, and obama. fuck you too.

This isn't a political sub and I encourage everyone to look past Candidate X. You and me are in this together brother. Creating false idols out of politicians is what they want. We don't need anyone to hold our hand through this experience, certainly we don't need politicians. But to the point of this thread, the propaganda on reddit is so perverse that they can create division between two like souls. Let's not give them that power my brother

Nearly 10 million last cycle. A lot of money, but let's see where it went.

Correct the Record believes it can avoid the coordination ban by relying on a 2006 Federal Election Commission regulation that declared that content posted online for free, such as blogs, is off limits from regulation. The “Internet exemption” said that such *free postings do not constitute campaign expenditures*, allowing independent groups to consult with candidates about the content they post on their sites. By adopting the measure, the FEC limited its online jurisdiction to regulating paid political ads.[1]

CTR plainly states that their massive funding goes towards free online posting.

In late March 2016, Politico noted that, while the Clinton campaign was focused on the primaries, CTR, along with Priorities USA Action and American Bridge 21st Century, were looking forward to a possible Donald Trump nomination. CTR had been researching Trump for months, preparing for the 2016 general election.[2]

Even in the second half of 2015 Correct The Record had 3M in disbursements

It's not hard to believe that CTR is still running in some capacity. Eventually earnings reports will come out and prove that.

[1]https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2015/05/12/how-a-super-pac-plans-to-coordinate-directly-with-hillary-clintons-campaign/

[2]http://www.politico.com/story/2016/03/top-clinton-funders-urge-tougher-attacks-on-trump-221411

Not all $10 million went to posting on social media. And the stated goal of CTR was to "confront social media users who post unflattering messages about Clinton." Why would they still be doing that months after the election? Also, how far do you think $10 million goes?

Russia spends over a billion dollars on propaganda in a given year. Yet I never see this mentioned here, and never have I seen someone here entertain the idea that maybe they have a presence on American websites like reddit. Even though it's known they hire English speakers.

The idea that this sub is "non-political" is hilarious. The users here clearly strongly favor Trump and Republicans. For example, this sub ignores Trump's many Russian ties, but is willing to make up fake shit like Pizzagate which has far less evidence (if any). What a joke.

Do you think CTR is the reason why Trump was the most disliked candidate (and now the most disliked POETUS) since those metrics have been tracked? You people only see what you want to see. Cognitive dissonance. He is disliked because he is an unqualified fool with a 3rd grade vocabulary. I would reply to everyone, but the downvotes only let me reply once every 10 minutes, so I won't.

Stay deluded :D This great material is why I lurk here.

Was he the most disliked? Seems not despite MSM hammering it into us for over a year.

We aren't Russians living in Russia. We focus primarily in conspiracy theories here. In our country.

You think the US Govt doesnt outspend the Russians on everything including online propaganda? CTR was most likely born from already existing Pentagon, CIA and NSA programs where they hire people that sound like you to try and influence and change discussions away from "dangerous" ideas. We cannot see them nor the Russian programs as we do CTR right in front of us thus the discussion.

If Trump had one we'd talk about it too. But as the establishment didn't want him to win they of course didn't help him and we haven't yet found a conspiracy theory to discuss in that light. Time will tell as he sits as POTUS and we see if they can get him to become another of the souless monsters TPTB love to put in power. Maybe he already is one. We don't have his lifetime career as a politician to ascertain that.

Trump was the most disliked, or at least there are polls saying so.

There are plenty of stuff that Russia does in the US, like influence the election, which have plenty of evidence for it. But instead, this sub talks about "pizzagate", which has literally no legitimate evidence.

You have no evidence the US government has paid internet trolls like Russia.

Trump does has Russia backing him, or at least enough evidence of it to warrant discussion. He clearly support policies which would help Russia, vocally like Putin and appoints advisors with strong Russian ties. Russia released information on his opponents and has internet trolls. It isn't hard to see them using their trolls to support Trump. Of course, he was a conservative man who opposed Clinton, so r/conspiracy can't target him, but on subreddits for open discussion, he should deserve as much, if not more, scrutiny than Clinton.

They want to pretend that the group Trump paid double what Hillary paid still has a reason to stick around. Cambridge Analytica

After they got r/pizzagate to delete itself they either started a Voat v/pizzagate to control it or else they've managed to completely infiltrated it cuz it's a mess.

It was always a mess. It's called "pizzagate" for Christ's sakes. It is a 4chan/Trump-troll hoax.

Good one

"It's called pizzagate, how outrageous"

Yeah... pizzagate on voat is a mess... but God bless their souls... they don't let it stop them... they persevere through the most insane circumstances and still get all their information shared/bunked/debunked/collaborated.

Voat is like the hand-to-hand trench warfare of internet shill battles... down and dirty... but they don't quit... they just fight even harder... it really is quite noble... if it was for any other cause other than protecting innocent children they would have given up long ago... cause the conditions are atrocious over there.

Thanks.

cuz it's a mess.

Conspiracy theorists are never messy, this much be outside agitators!!!1

You're also forgetting about the other presence, Cambridge Analytica.

People assumed this would immediately stop after the election, but it appears not to be the case.

Thats just wishful thinking.

Why exactly would they stop doing this? If they ran propaganda 24/7 to try and prevent Trump from winning, they'll do it to try and keep him from succeeding too.

its not like CTR was funded by poor college students, they have people like soros cutting checks so its not like they are going to be running out of resources anytime soon

It has proven to be more cost effective than msnbc in terms of propaganda. Some of the people you are trying to reach contribute for free, magnifiying the effect of money spent here.

I thought it was going to stop.

It did stop for about 2 days after the election. Then they got new orders.

I remebering it stop/pause after Clinton had he seizure/collapse on 9/11/2016. Full panic mode and awaiting the talking points from those above them. It was wonderful to behold, like a weight had been lifted off Reddit - until they decided on their lies/cover and kept pushing the side of beef.

Tends to stop on long weekends too.

Apparently, the propaganda machine works standard business hours.

It is funny, I wake up at 515 am for work and usually spend the first 15 mins after I am up browsing around reddit. Anytime I post a question or statement that doesnt fit the narrative on politics, between the hours of about 9 and 4 I get downvoted and mostly negative comments, but every day around dinner the votes start to come back up and I receive more positive comments. Like clockwork every time.

They were setting it up over a year ago... on /r/Maine there was a weird post like 18 months saying they were a reporter and wanted to conduct interviews with people that had experience being a moderator... I said I had moderated many forums in the past and they started sending me private messages to see what kind of websites I had some sway in... I didn't foresee this kind of shit happening so I was just baffled at how shitty of an article/radio interview they would end up publishing... cause that is a really fucking boring subject matter... they eventually gave up... then months later I got another message from a different account... again wanting to do a radio interview and focusing on some comments I had made in the past about some less than moral behaviours I had engaged in.

Now I have to guess that the first one wanted to get me to influence forums willingly with my moderator powers... and the 2nd one was digging for blackmail to make me comply not-so-willingly.

So to answer OP's question: yes, State-sponsored propaganda.

Politics was one of my primary destinations to discuss / debate politics on Reddit over the last four years. Was an often ugly and disagreements and often off-topic and stupid. But that's the Internet. That's people conversing anonymously. Overnight after the Democratic Nomination I'm shouted down at every turn and it's a solid wall of hate. That's not natural Internet conversation. That communities can be so thoroughly hijacked is the biggest risk to Reddit as a platform, and the admin should be on top of working out strategies to prevent think tanks and paid for special interest from manipulating the platform. I keep chewing on the idea that efforts to monetize Reddit may instead have led to creating tools to facilitate sub takeover instead.

They took a two day break after the election then it was propaganda 24/7 again. I have looked at what they're doing for a month though. I think they're a lost cause, its not much of a loss.

Well, I mean, over here this sub has donr a 180 to people thinking that a guy who was born a billionaire gives a fuck about us and is going to save the world.

It's because those right wing people, aside from T_D, come here because they find a sympathetic ear on an otherwise compromised website where they are constantly shouted down by opposing viewpoints.

+1 for that. This is extremely true.

This is exactly what happened. I remember the "dust clear" so to speak, on r/politics the morning after the election. Hundreds of people were commenting, wondering if "the shills" were gone, and conversations were closer to those you'd in r/worldnews ... not totally biased in one persons favour.

But as we know it didn't last for long.

David Brock, et al. are definitely financing something, and the worst part is that this is the new normal. We are going to have to deal with this stuff for the rest of our lives.

As long as you stay aware, ain't much more you can do.

You can't go one second without seeing the word "Trump" in a negative opinion. And I've seen a million nicknames for his supporters: Trumpers, Trumpsters, Trumpets, Trumpettes, Trumpkins, Trumplestiltskins, etc. Shit, I lean left too but some liberals think they're so damn clever with their stupid names.

they had a stick about it during the height of the general election. their claim was something like "since we have so many posts right now about the election, we are going to allow our users to help us "police" "bad threads" so if you go against the echo chamber, and your post gets downvoted below 50% or has 0 post karma it will be deleted after 6 hours. It even happens to links from their usual safe space sources like ny times, wash po, huffpo - but if the article is about something logical like "5 reasons why hillary lost" most users there know they just have to downvote anything they dont like and it will never see the light of day

/r/politics is an echo chamber, /r/the_donald is an echo chamber, /r/HillaryForPresident is an echo chamber, /r/conspiracy is an echo chamber, pretty much every large sub on Reddit is an echo chamber to some extent but that doesn't mean they're controlled by the government. I'm sure you can acknowledge that there are people who despite all the evidence still think Clinton did nothing wrong, if they mod /r/politics then wouldn't it be expected for them to potentially censor things they don't like? Obviously this would be immoral but it's not like you need to be a govt controlled sub to have mods who want to silence dissenting opinions. If y'all can't accept that russia hacked the DNC cause there isn't any public evidence (that isn't circumstantial) then maybe you should apply the same rigorous evaluation to everything not just the things you don't like.

well, theoretically, the donald and hillary for president should be echo chambers for those candidates. that would be normal..... r politics should be a discussion for all politics. even though reddit as a whole tends to lean left, its pathetic that they censor their sub unless they want to change the name to r liberal politics

r/conspiracy actually has lots of debate and disagreement inside.

Not really. Any defense of Clintonis instantly downvoted, which is not the case with Donald

Valid points about some people's hypocrisy in terms of skepticism and willingness to then call something the truth with little to no evidence. I'd prefer we all be skeptical about everything, including our own conspiracy theories. However, I think the big difference between subs like /r/politics and /r/the_donald and this sub is that I can actually see varying opinions here without having to scroll down to hidden comments. There certainly is an element to truth that every sub is a echo chamber. But things like /r/politics is on a completely different level than /r/conspiracy which is unfortunate considering /r/politics should be a non-partisan place for political discussion but instead has turned into an intolerant propaganda machine for the Democratic Party. Whether or not the Democratic Party (or government officials) are involved in that, I don't know. But I don't think it's a crazy idea to suggest there is some nefarious activity there. And the fact that we can hear both arguments for and against this idea is why /r/conspiracy is such an awesome sub.

Yes, that sub is toxic, compromised, useless, moot, etc.

random person comes along to say this belongs in "the_donald"*

"SHOULDN"T THIS BE IN THE DONALD!?"

no! shut up!

• https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/4mtfoh/psa_rthe_donald_was_created_by_the_same_person/

It's trolls all the way down.

Yes, that sub is toxic, compromised, useless, moot, etc.

So ironic!

Does anyone else have to wait 6 minutes between posts on pol?

its cuz your karma low

And then you get downvoted to hell which keeps you from speaking. That's sneaky and horrible (but at least clever).

I actually just started posting there again today, it's been a while since the election shadow banning. So many of them are oblivious to the fact it was happening. LET THE DOWN VOTES BEGIN!

The same rules apply to this sub.

I got decent karma and it makes me wait 9 minutes

not 10 minutes? that is part of silencing people and only people who agree have voice.

Shouldn't these be the most important posts to allow continued exposure and discussion on?

"Our hope is that this can get many of the blatantly rule-breaking and trolling things out of sight so that both we and you all can focus on productive discussion here in /r/politics."

Nobody could have predicted it would end up removing the posts that counter their narrative! /s

It's impossible to tell the difference between state sponsored and brainwashed liberals. They would act in exactly the same way.

That would be moderates. Liberals aren't buying any of that shit.

*leftists

*Cnetrists.

It's impossible to tell the difference between state sponsored and brainwashed liberals.

Brainwashed "conservatives" did it for 8+ years during the Bush II regime.

There are brainwashed people on both sides, who's denying that? Look at all the zionist christian conservatives who care more about Israel than their own country.

When i read what r/politics think about Assange i just want to cry :'(

Truly disgusting.

lol

I just want to give Assange a hug after I see some of that BS.

It's worst than state funded propaganda, it's privately funded propaganda.

That goes for the rest of social media.

There's no way that most of what we see now on /r/politics is organic. The users are mostly ones that are still upset about a trump victory to the point that they lend actual credence to clear-cut establishment propaganda. It scares me to go on that sub and peruse the comment section.

The users there equate wikileaks with Russian hacking, and never even address the good that wikileaks does. Its scary to watch. I just hope they aren't organic.

It's not organic. It's just social engineering, and its' not that hard to do. Get a post upvoted to the top and sprinkle support comments underneath it... give the appearance that this is the major public opinion, and there you have it... special snowflakes will flock to that opinion because they want to be "inclusive".

Correct the Record starts it and the brainwashed masses soak it up.

Yep. Consider that only roughly 10% of Reddit's consumers comment, the comment section of a supposed forum of public opinion is easily staged. It affects people's ideas in many ways.

Most of the dissent was banned from there. I have two accounts both banned from there for pointing out obvious bias.

they also downvote any article that mentions the DNC leak content and posts will be removed for being "off topic" or "old news" Their 30 day rule about news coupled with the way the MSM is glossing over the DNC emails content in favor if just crying about russia has made it so all the talk is about russia.

Reddit period at this point. This place is so fucked.

Would love to find a new "reddit"

r/economics is fed sponsored propaganda

"Bot removal" is also a way for r\politics mods to remove content with no attribution (so no one except for admins know who made the removal). I'm guessing that by removing the posts, the content of the article becomes harder to find during a search (requiring exact key words be used to locate the article).

The rules changes which r\politics made last May also included the "temporary suspension" of self-post Saturday--which the mods claimed would be given back sometime after the election (I guess it's still too soon for that).

As for the Why and Who (from 2 articles):

Mark S. Luckie, whom Reddit hired earlier this year [Feb. 2016] as its first-ever head of journalism and media, is tackling some of these problems. He’s helping news and government organizations understand better ways to use the platform. (He had a similar role as Twitter’s manager of journalism and news before leaving the company in 2015.) http://www.niemanlab.org/2016/06/mark-luckie-on-his-new-job-at-reddit-diversity-on-the-platform-and-today-in-blacktwitter/

Luckie’s new role will entail working with media organizations, as well as government organizations, to understand how they’re currently using Reddit and what their needs are from the platform, Luckie told me. He’ll then take that feedback and build it into Reddit’s product, with the goal of making Reddit more accessible to a broader community of people.

“A lot of it is delving into the community and figuring out how news spread within subreddits,” Luckie said. “I’ve been on Reddit for 8 years now as a lurker. It’s crazy. I don’t think I’ve done anything for eight years, including Twitter. Now, I want to look at it in an official capacity. I’ll delve into data, analyze the links going in, profile pages — all of this stuff that can be used to quantify news. I’m a spreadsheet kind of guy. I want to get in there and get my hands my dirty.” https://techcrunch.com/2016/02/16/reddit-hires-twitters-former-news-manager-as-head-of-journalism-and-media/

So, yeah--it seems perfectly clear that ALL this was planned in advance of the election. It was the goal of the US government to take back control of the internet/media before the election began (with a clean-up operation after). Would've been much easier if the Queen of Corruption had won--then we'd all have Fake Liberal, pro-war news shoved up our asses 24/7/365.

You can make the argument that T_D is as well. Israel is a fuckass country if you say anything bad u get banned. They also think george zimmerman stalking & killing trayvon martin was good.

Hi,

Can I join in too?

I really want to get a job at home and 0.04$ per comment seems good.

Do tell me I can be a good keyboard warrior making people believe in stuff!

This response is a perfect example of the automated response you get from t_d bots

Uh yes yes thanks for handing out the details in private will see your people with my laptop in the mentioned place

Come check out r/politics1

r/conspiracy = state sponsored echo chamber so i suppose that makes sense. well really, all subreddit are echo chambers, but the masters would rather you not believe me lol.

Can't really agree with you there... /r/conspiracy has had a strictly curated frontpage for a few months now... but that is starting to die down a little bit... people are still free to discuss whatever they'd like.

it's an echo chamber. you come here, you are assured in your ideas and thoughts by similar ideas and thoughts. this allows you to come and vent to like minded people who confirm your issues and nothing is ever done.

that is the very definition of an echo chamber.

Nah... I see all kinds of people bunking and debunking all over the place in the self posts... good conversation... just stay out of the topics that are only a YouTube video...

debunking videos means nothing if you aren't going to do anything about what was 'debunked.' all it equates to is wasting your time unless you are going to take action.

don't listen to me, i'd rather see everyone drug out of their echo chambers by the masters when they aren't required for the control of the populace.

I dunno what happens in the youtube threads... I usually skip over those... Not my cup of tea... but the fact that you and are a debating whether or not this sub is an echo chamber kinda shows that it isn't totally an echo chamber... Right?

nope, eventually i'll be banned again for calling it out. this isn't the first account i;ve made explaining this. you can even downvote my dissenting opinion so no one else sees it if you so chose.

reddit isn't here so you can come together and take action against your masters. it's here for you to vent to like minded people so that you are never angry enough to do so.

I've literally never downvoted someone in my entire life... it's not my style... bad karma, man. Yeah you prolly won't get banned as long as you follow the rules though.

so i should stop talking about this being an echo chamber? because that is all that gets me banned.

Rule 10 - Posts that attack this sub, users or mods thereof, will be removed.

So yeah... talking about this sub in a derogatory fashion will get you banned. It isn't a conspiracy... its the rules.

i didn't realize the truth was derogatory. makes perfect sense then i guess.

Yeah... they gave me a stern talking-to about it as well... I was almost banned for calling it a "shit show".

/r/politics is anti-trump pro-hillary propaganda machine.

there needs to be a subreddit in between /r/politics and /r/the_donald

/r/TwoXChromosomes

/r/politicaldiscussion is generally fair.

what do you expect when the mods themselves are among the biggest shit posters in that sub? Its not like they have bipartisan mods and actually take a reasoned approach what they remove. Their rules are carefully written to allow them to remove anything. They have a list of "unacceptable sources" such as non main stream sites that lean right (go figure). They also ban WSJ for its paywall. However my favorite is "rehosted content" such as if the MSM picks up a story originally published on an "unacceptable source" or WSJ its banned for being "rehosted"- AKA properly citing its source. Not to mention removing all articles about hillary & media collusion by saying "its about the media, not politics"

It's rather well known that they are mostly shills in there. I never pay attention to them anymore.

At least it is AMERICAN state controlled propaganda.

Don't forget the influence of the Goons. They have been using infiltration and d&c tactics to suppress discussion counter to their sjw narrative for years.

I think it is time to filter that cancerous subreddit. It just infuriates me... the only way to read it is on controversial or new mode, but even that raises my blood pressure noticeably

I used to enjoy /r/politics and /r/news... /r/news is coming back around... but I think politics is dead for a good long while... at least they don't still have the brigades crafting the whole frontpage with like 30k upvotes quite so much anymore... it seems to be only a couple sites that still have their content boosted still...

Fun place to swing by and drop off a couple posts... but the 10 minute limit between content makes it hard for any meaningful discussion to occur without a coordinated assembly of various accounts.

And /r/worldnews is Israeli sponsored propaganda or is that the state you are talking about?

This post really brought out r/libshills. Libs wonder why republicans would be so entrenched in r/conspiracy after running with a narrative for the last 2 decades that everything that republicans say opposing the liberal opinions are conspiracies. The irony!

It's pretty amazing how quickly that place flipped from "Hillary is the devil" to "Hillary is amazing".

not really. it's a liberal dominated sub & once bernie lost, many people viewed hillary as the lesser of 2 evils. why is that so hard to understand?

I never said I didn't understand it. I expected it but was amazed at how quick the transition was.

Cover-up the Record and their ilk are some of the most disgusting people on Earth. Damn near as the deep state dirtbags they're doing legwork for, in my book.

"R/politics is nothing but hardcore SJW / democrats. Debating their viewpoints are not allowed. At R/hillaryclinton , I was called "racist and deplorable" , then banned for trying to discuss the electoral college system.

I've been in forums all over the web, and watched comments sections in numerous mainstream media outfits. Yet, I've never in my internet life seen a "comments" section with as many authoritarian posts as in r\politics and r\news. I'd bet my life they're jam packed with shills and infowar agents. There is simply no other explanation.

I know I'm amongst the tinfoil right but I think even you guys can cut through the bullshit on this one.

Reddit itself is primarily liberal, and as we've seen this year politics are polarizing and people usually gravitate to info that confirms their opinions. What happens is liberals invite liberal articles while conservatives down vote, but conservatives are outnumbered. This means liberal content is more visible, deterring conservatives and attracting liberals. Rinse and repeat every day for a year and you get a board with a liberal bias.

Do you guys also think Drumpf is funding The_Donald with shills? Or do conservatives just like reading and upvoting conservative content?

It's so weird how r/soccer is full of soccer fans isn't?! Also what about big comedy finding all the shills in r/funny!

The DNC or whoever your blaming wouldn't waste the time or the money required to corner a narrative on ONE political forum 4 years before an election, come on guys even pizzagate was better then the whole CTR thing, especially post election

I know I'm amongst the tinfoil right but I think even you guys can cut through the bullshit on this one.

Reddit itself is primarily liberal, and as we've seen this year politics are polarizing and people usually gravitate to info that confirms their opinions. What happens is liberals invite liberal articles while conservatives down vote, but conservatives are outnumbered. This means liberal content is more visible, deterring conservatives and attracting liberals. Rinse and repeat every day for a year and you get a board with a liberal bias.

Do you guys also think Drumpf is funding The_Donald with shills? Or do conservatives just like reading and upvoting conservative content?

It's so weird how r/soccer is full of soccer fans isn't?! Also what about big comedy finding all the shills in r/funny!

The DNC or whoever your blaming wouldn't waste the time or the money required to corner a narrative on ONE political forum 4 years before an election, come on guys even pizzagate was better then the whole CTR thing, especially post election

r/politics and r/worldnews seem to be completely one sided to me. I unsubbed from them during the election

If you want to see a case study of how they remove posts that hurt their feels.... just look at my submitted post history, pretty much all of them have been removed from r/redacted

Every single post on there is a negative Trump post. I don't think you're even allowed to post anything that may put him in a good light.

Truly disgusting.

It was always a mess. It's called "pizzagate" for Christ's sakes. It is a 4chan/Trump-troll hoax.

Yeah... pizzagate on voat is a mess... but God bless their souls... they don't let it stop them... they persevere through the most insane circumstances and still get all their information shared/bunked/debunked/collaborated.

Voat is like the hand-to-hand trench warfare of internet shill battles... down and dirty... but they don't quit... they just fight even harder... it really is quite noble... if it was for any other cause other than protecting innocent children they would have given up long ago... cause the conditions are atrocious over there.

Good one

cuz it's a mess.

Conspiracy theorists are never messy, this much be outside agitators!!!1

lol

"It's called pizzagate, how outrageous"

I think Republicans are painted pro-business effectively, but we've had record domestic drilling and unending war entanglements in the last 8 years, among other examples. The Corporate duopoly just does a good job of pacifying anti-corporate voters by throwing them a enough pro-environment or pro-social issues bones that don't ultimately rock the corporate boat. There's a reason the anti-Russia stuff is bypartisan....both parties never met a war they didn't like. Cha-Ching.

I just want to give Assange a hug after I see some of that BS.

It is funny, I wake up at 515 am for work and usually spend the first 15 mins after I am up browsing around reddit. Anytime I post a question or statement that doesnt fit the narrative on politics, between the hours of about 9 and 4 I get downvoted and mostly negative comments, but every day around dinner the votes start to come back up and I receive more positive comments. Like clockwork every time.