Someone recommended to check the controversial tab to see what's being downvoted.

You did. Be more specific. There is a lot in there...

i think TPTB are panicking right now because we know McCain is a reptilian shape shifter,

unless that isn't what we were suppose to notice, besides that i would say the "new" tab is showing more relevant post about the brigading right now than controversial

Strange like new accounts with karma of 1 post things like this ("Theory: Russia DID Influence The Election") just now...

For me the top in controversial (last 24hr) are:

Donald Trump was bailed out of bankruptcy by Russia crime bosses (dailykos.com)

Huma Abedin's middle name is Mahmood. Her middle name spelled backwards is DoomHam. I think its a clue. (self.conspiracy)

Read New Trump-Russia Intel Report Here. Deep Ties And Collusion Between Trump Campaign And Kremlin. (buzzfeed.com)

Russians Have Compromising Personal Information On Trump (cnn.com)

That's what I am doing. Fuck the shills.

Holy crap I've never seen that many in here. Usual is 1200ish at this time I believe

Now 6000 moments later. Wow.

Now 6500. Has this ever happened before?

I dont think so. Crazy

We're up to 7377 users. That story has shot up over 150 upvotes per minute

David Brock's Correct The Record still occupies Reddit to push a liberal narrative,

Everyone who was anti-Clinton/pro-Sanders got banned from r/politics just to silence the dissent.

This whole site is compromised.

its not a liberal narrative,... its a pedo gang

David Brock's Correct The Record still occupies Reddit to push a liberal narrative, Everyone who was anti-Clinton/pro-Sanders got banned from r/politics just to silence the dissent.

This literally isn't true, I was repeatedly called "CTR" because I made fun of trump.

Face it, you guys are pro trump and call anyone you don't like CTR. You ignored all the obvious fake pro trump shilling on here.

Now you have to make up that CTR is somehow still around AFTER the election because face it, you cannot handle discussion with people that have different views.

Thankyou for telling us how we all think and how we should think. get to fuck.

Yeah evil CTR!!!!! Is still around on tiny reddit threads for absolutely no reason because you are such a threat to the establishment.

Do you think I'm being paid to mock you right now?

"you cannot handle discussion with people that have different views."

You can't handle it. Why do you even still try the CTR thing?

Both of you are insufferable assholes

But mainly the CTR trash.

Ah right, because anyone who doesn't want to listen to your rote CTR talking points "can't handle it".

No, it's that you and every other CTR fucktard are SPAMMERS and no one cares to interact with YOU FUCKING TRASH.

Ah right, because anyone who doesn't want to listen to your rote CTR talking points "can't handle it".

Ah right, because anyone who doesn't want to listen to your rote "everyone i dont likeis a paid shill" must be paid by hillary clinton.

No, it's that you and every other fucktard cant discuss anything without calling someone a shill and and you cant interact with anyone YOU FUCKING TRASH

lol 5 day old account too, and im supposed to be the shill

your entire account history is CTR talking points.

So you have to be pro trump all the time or you get called "CTR", got it.

You guys can scream ctr all you want, but deep down you know you are scared if you had to actually discuss trump you'd lose, badly.

ready and willing

Do you think someone is paying people to go into tiny meaningless reddit threads post-election to disagree with you.

Or, more likely they are just people who disagree.

lol most people would agree but i as you can see from my name have had 4 brigades run against my prior accounts. so even if you arent or dont think im worth the effort, some one sure as shit did before.

but i as you can see from my name have had 4 brigades run against my prior accounts.

?

You also claim CTR doesn't exist, which is completely fucking retarded and also a CTR talking point.

Literally the only people dumb enough to believe CTR doesn't exist are CTR employees themselves. Think about that. The level of fucktard is off the charts, never seen before.

We have FTC records, we have admissions from Brock, we have news articles referencing CTR the shill army for Hitlery.

SO FUCK OFF trying to claim that CTR doesn't exist. You aren't fooling anyone, you just make yourselves look like fucking retards.

You also claim CTR doesn't exist, which is completely fucking retarded and also a CTR talking point.

Or it's reality, they might have existed on twitter but not reddit. Were you here in the past 6 or so months when the_donald spammed the front page 24 hours a day?

Literally the only people dumb enough to believe CTR doesn't exist are CTR employees themselves. Think about that. The level of fucktard is off the charts, never seen before.

So im a ctr? employee? you think im being paid? you are the one with the obvious 5 day old alt-account, not me.

We have FTC records, we have admissions from Brock

Yeah records that only show he paid some people, wow big scoop. Yeah i remember those being spammed by pro-trump people as "proof" of something. All they showed was he paid some people. Meanwhile all news about russias troll farms was suppressed as people here screamed CTR!

SO FUCK OFF trying to claim that CTR doesn't exist. You aren't fooling anyone, you just make yourselves look like fucking retards.

I love this, backed into a corner and you start screaming your head of about "le evil CTR"

we have news articles referencing CTR the shill army for Hitlery.

Russia's troll factories were, at one point, likely being paid by the Kremlin to spread pro-Trump propaganda on social media.

Oh

Hoo boy are you salty your queen lost

who is that?

Hillary

Sorry to disappoint you but i didnt vote for her.

Well you're already smarter than the 6) million who did.

why is that?

Because Hillary is the shittiest candidate in history.

why?

Lots of personal opinions on her policies and her careless and entitled attitude.

You can't use MSM sources to back a point, they back the narrative, that is the narrative according to TPTB, that should be telling

Right ill go post the exact same thing on 4chan, screenshot it, then you will accept it right?

Cool, cool, cool. No circular reasoning there at all. So just infowars and brietbart then?

You're right, but in terms of an echo chamber, places like The_Donald are no better, I posted there for months as a supporter, then in one thread I dared to clarify Trump's statements on gay marriage (as wanting to put back to the states, a regression) and was banned just for that.

It's at 7985 now! Crazy shit!

Now 6802. How high will it go before the crash?

7043 now.

It's almost like there's a thread on the frontpage from /r/conspiracy bringing people here...

meta r/conspiracy conspiracy

dig deeper

keep asking questions

It's almost like you don't know how evil you are for taking Soros money.

This is a sarcastic comment right? I honestly can't tel with some of you people.

Nope

What is it like to live with such intense paranoia?

"Paranoid? Who's paranoid? We're not paranoid! Who said we're paranoid? What did you hear? WHO SENT YOU?!?"
-r/conspiracy

Poe is dead and we killed him.

Where do I get my punch card? I've been an unpaid shill for far too long.

its ok the FCC has published all their names

we know who the trolls are the paid ones!

Fuck I wish I was getting money to comment on reddit. I'd put a lot more effort into this shit

It's almost like there's a thread on the frontpage from /r/conspiracy bringing people here...

Yup, they are all coming because of the Fake News Trump/Russia/Blackmail story that originated on 4Chan and has gone global:

https://i.sli.mg/gGFepm.jpg

the report is from june 20th and fbi had it in august

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-01-10/4chan-claims-have-fabricated-anti-trump-report-hoax

okay? that's just some dumbass on 4chan, as per usual on here

LOL. Your idiot Hitlerina clickbait narrative is crumbling, and you all look like fucking fools.

Go back to your safe space at /r/politics and ETS where you can pretend that Hitlerina is the second coming of christ and that child-rape is okay if John Podesta does it.

your entire post history is saying variations of the above to everyone you disagree with

Really think it is the new algorithm and the typical mindset of redditors. Maybe a nudge here and there, a bit of bots/brigading to start off the avalanche, but this is the what the rest of reddit looks like. They hate Trump (and Wikileaks -his AMA was a shitshow). Here at r/conspiracy we want real proof, real fucking verifiable sources, and we distrust the msm and government...not out there. People believe that shit. "If the CIA says something, it must be true."

So no, I just think we got on the radar and hopefully we will get off it soon. And the the real work will begin. Finding out where, what, how and who. The truth will emerge here, but by then all the tourists will have left.

I'd also like to point out that the majority of us here are non partisan. We reject the two party system and we support neither Donald Trump nor Clinton

You still reckon it's a majority? You're probably right, when I consider how vocal those individuals are it makes sense it could just be a very vocal minority. I miss pre-2016 election /r/conspiracy </3

Can you explain why the mods of this sub are so pro trump? They tagged only that post with unverifiable claims and then deleted it and put a tag that says it's a 4chan prank which in itself is an unverified claim since nobody knows what story the guy from 4chan was actually claiming to send. It was like a catch all for any possible posts that may come out because it was so vague. But that doesn't count as unverified to the mods apparently. It's BS how biased the mods are in pushing their narrative

maybe because the author of the damn article said it was an unverifiable allegation? or did you not even read the fucking thing?

But they never put tags like that on anything before. I lurk here often. It's dumb to make this claim because it's a one off case and they were looking for a way to bury it or delete the post

do you actually think any mod that has spent any time here would think that would work? seriously? clearly you are new here.

Well, it got manipulated to the front page of all, with a fake message from the "conspiracy community" giving it the perception of added credence to the front page. The tag is essentially the only damage control the mods could do to counter the brigade (this is my theory)

According to the comments on that post, the tag was added pretty early on. The post didn't even receive as much traction at the time so there wasn't really that much evidence of brigading

Did you go through my history to find where else I commented?

so your just going to ignore the question of did you read the fucking article? thats says an awful lot, did you at least read it after?

That was irrelevant. Plenty of unverifiable crap is posted here without anything from the mods. Please stop pretending that this was the mods combating false information because all the other BS that exists here proves that is a lie. I have also previously messaged the mods about how far people have gone with their alt right agendas in this sub and how taking sides shouldn't be what this sub is about. Their silence is evidence of the fact that they're choosing sides here

the author called it unverified allegations numb skull

But parts of it(2 pages) were included in the intelligence briefing to the POTUS and the PEEOTUS which means those parts are investigated.

the funny part is i dont think any regular subscribers here trust anyone. we know better. very few really back trump, he was at best the lesser of two evil as far as this sub was concerned.

Here at r/conspiracy we want real proof, real fucking verifiable sources

I needed that laugh. Cheers fella.

Me too, you Hitlerinas really are a pathetic joke.

You act smug about "evidence" while fucking running around parroting talking points about how anyone who doesn't suck down some anonymous claims from a fuckign PDF is a "Russia bot" or "Trumpet".

You're a fucking moron and a piece of shit fucking shill. Go fuck yourself with a rusty knife, CTR trash.

Newsflash: Hitlerinas like you do not dictate reality with your feelings.

Your feelings are not "evidence".

Claims by an authority figure you FEEL is a good person are NOT EVIDENCE.

Fuck off.

Not American, not a Hillary supporter. Certainly not a "Hitlerina" considering my background.

It is funny though, banging on about evidence while also talking about pizzagate seriously.

Mate, you need to chill out before you have a stroke :D

They come up with new lingo all the time.

So is cuck dead? What's a hitlerina referring to?

Are they just making up words to be the hipsters of the internet now?

I'm guessing Hitlerina refers to Hilary? I dunno.

Idk, I was thinking it's like...a tumblerina...mashed with ideas they don't like, but not sure why Hitler is thrown in there. Maybe because they think socialism lead to the uprising of hitler?

They'd have to ignore a ton of hard evidence to come to that conclusion...so I don't really know.

But I do see Hillary still brought up alot which is funny, cause she's ghosted everyone/everything after the loss.

brainwashed i feel bad for them they have no mind for themselves anymore

Well and truly rustled.

a little angry, but i totally agree.

Can you show me any hard evidence of pizzagate? Cause I've seen people go absolutely bonkers for all of that.

Or is it people just feeling that pizza is code for child fucking? And running with it?

Also, what's a hitlerina?

Pretty riled up there huh

seriously flat earth?

You what?

its a joke you must be british

And you must be German

no oo you said cheers!

You god damn right I did

damn straight bully for you!

You just reminded me of Civ VI

Civ VI

que'est que c'est ? is it good [it better be ;0]

london calling ....

Its brilliant! C'est magnifique.

;0 your fun what time is it for you

im in nyc .... 6 AM i watch the sunrise as i chant for world peace

Like art I don't understand at a pizza parlor, now that's REAL PROOF!

plus when the rat fuckers showed up earlier we called them out and stayed strong ...

Since when has /r/conspiracy needed proof?

...do you know what a conspiracy is?

Two or more people plotting a crime?

Do you ?

Here at r/conspiracy

Another 4 month old account, right around the time T_D began controlling the narrative here.

Hmm....

Yeah, cause from my history you can clearly see I post pro Trump propaganda. And yeah, this account is 4 months old. Been lurking a long time though and have seen a lot of changes. As have you. But as usual don't believe me...don't care...just another dude on the internet.

My apologies, every single person I was responding to at the time had new accounts like this, and so many of them were using that inclusive language. I was pretty much firing at will.

Pretty obvious from your comments you are not one of the axe-grinders I've been talking about. This sub desperately needs more people like you who are more concerned with discovering the truth than controlling it.

No worries. Sorta thought that. Hope the sub goes back to pre election mode soon.

what we are questioning is how something most of the regulars here think is utterly ridiculous bullshit ever got enough upvotes to do that in the first place.

a few thousand paid upvotes in the first hour or so is enough to push it to social media critical mass to get it on to the front page and then brings in non-subscribers. but there is no way something this stupid ever got that many upvotes from actual subscribers here. that is why we are so concerned.

Its 8234 right now! Holy shit!

It was at 8235 when I went to bed last night.

7230 now. Blowing my mind.

we had 35000 at way of the bern election night that was wild and spontaneous

this is not wild planned for and Y A W N!!!

RISE UP! The agents found us!

And they are mean and nasty! It's exciting to think what's coming that they are so terrified of.

Another factor might be that this is one the only neutral places you can discuss current events on reddit. The default subreddits like politics/news/etc are completely controlled by left-wing CTR shill mods, and places like T_D are controlled by the opposite side and ban if you present dissenting opinions/facts.

This place is closer to neutral and speculative theories aren't buried by downvotes, so it's a good place to exchange ideas with people. I've actually started coming here over most other subreddits to talk about current events and i'm definitely not paid to do it.

I wonder if they were unleashed to prop up PissGate.

In the past week or two here it has be noticeable on this sub, in whereisassange, and on voat. They must be scared to be pumping this kind of money into shilling.

Avoid the term pissgate. The plan is to use it to combat pizzagate.

Lol it's a troll by 4chan let them use it, it will be irony at its finest.

We'll call it Pissagate then.

Issa me! Trumpio!

They were sent to prop up the 4chan RP clickbait story yeah.

IMO everyone should refer to it that way too, don't use their name. It's a 4chan RP story 100% just looking at it, and there's no evidence.

Add 579 to that in a matter of less than a minute ...

Only view this sub under controversial and new because they might push lies to HOT

Use that down vote on their shilled posts!

Just ask for their source on the BS.

People have been asking the intelligence agencies that for years!

4chan>buzzfeed>cnn>msm.

How much more proof do you need?!

Lol..

"An authority figure said so therefore it's true, if you question you're a DUM DUM CONSPURRACY THURRIST" - the entire thread.

What do they expect in r/conspiracy. Reddit shills are the saddest existence known to man

We sure are. Be vigilant everyone.

this is great.

just that they have to spend resources shows what a threat this sub is to them. they also point out the truth inadvertently with their obvious behavior. nothing to hide? nothing to fear.

It's really fucking strange to read this thread, you people really believe you are some kind of new age freedom fighters huh?

Interesting how you use the term "freedom fighter" like it's a bad thing. Is it a really that weird?

Let it sink in.

Well i didn't really use "freedom fighter" as a negative i was simply commenting on the ridiculousness that is this subreddit.

Your have people here who are "free thinkers" making it seem like you are all renegades who has learned to see through all lies and look at everything objectively. Yet the partisanship around here is almost as strong as on T_D. When a honest to god real conspiracy is posted about you flair it as "unverified allegations" and make a thread about how everyone who comes here because that thread hit the front page are just shills for hillary(?).

Buzzfeed? "BUZZ FEED"? Absolutely not.

Freedom fighters could be a good or bad thing. It included the Americans in the revolutionary War and the Muhajadeen fighting the Soviets

As opposed to you, defending child traffickers.

You're such a smart skeptic for just sucking down CLAIMS WITH NO EVIDENCE, aren't ya ;)

Mate, you have problems.

Yeah if only we just had some vague emails where Trump mentions pizza that would be ultimate evidence of prett much anything we wanted it to be evidence of.

"big boys"? What do you actually think you have done that has affacted anything in the world?

Conspiracy theories and the people who believe in them are universally ridiculed and this sub is no different.

I get the need to be special but you just aren't. You are just like the rest of us except you believe things without any real evidence because you wan't it to be true so you can be special, much like a religious person.

6.6k now? What the fuck?

Aaand that's 7k...

Mine says 7500 online now

We got this, we know our community and we know we all share a healthy dose of skepticism. That thread blasted to the top of our page with thousands of comments does not represent us. Use it as a chance to engage genuine free thinkers to consider the bigger picture in all of this

Yup! Some people seem to think this is a trump base or something, because they can't see past partisan lines!

It's because this place has become a Trump base.

People are coming here from the front page to see if this Trump story was really 4chan prank, and /r/conspiracy isn't delivering an answer, frankly.

Why would /r/conspiracy have an answer? Goldengate here is LITERALLY the biggest conspiracy-come-reality anyone of us could have ever wanted to see come true.

Maybe for you and a few others, but I imagine most here are upset that it's not about Hillary. Look how mad everyone is that people who dislike Trump came here from /r/all to discuss the subject. Calling everyone who came here from /r/all, something every sub that reaches /r/all when a big thing happens, a paid shill is how I've seen most people who claim to be regulars here react. Not many people discussing the actual claims, and when they are they're downplaying them. /r/conspiracy seem to want to reject a conspiracy, unless it's about who they want it to be about.

/r/conspiracy seem to want to reject a conspiracy, unless it's about who they want it to be about.<

Sounds about right.

Its all BS both sides of it - that "report" 1. isnt a report 2. isnt credible 3. gives no evidence 4. 4chan has proven nothing either

The problem we have and the reason its such a huge fighting point is because everyone against trump is using this report to push their narrative and agenda. That agenda just so happens to want war with Russia (in syria, for greater israel).

If there was basis for illegality undertaken by trump then that information should go to the relevant agencies.

go read the report. its 100% bruh.

Exactly. Is it really that shocking that people are in the CONSPIRACY thread after a shocking conspiracy theory that's likely verifiable made headline news? My god.

"likely verifiable" as in, you can verify that its completely bogus.

Thanks random redditor, since you say so it must be true.

The fact it made headlines is the suspicious part

I keep thinking about the 30,000 emails that clinton deleted and how hard the president elect has been getting bombarded since the election. I believe they are related. I think there are some real shenanigans in those emails, like proof we started the arab spring causing the Syrian civil war and the general chaos in the middle east, maybe some stuff about ukraine.

Uhhhhhhhhh yeahhhhhhhh

LOL

Let's just conveniently ignore the PRESIDENT ELECTS tax returns though, cause "emails"

This is why there are so many people on this sub. We came here to enjoy comments like yours with some popcorn.

Man, I wish I was where you are at right now so I could re-experience the ... revelations you'll face if you start digging

Point me in the right direction, arab spring seemed really suspect to me, considering it happened all at once

Arab spring is sketchy to me as well but unfortunately it's not my area of study. It does match with previous revolutions in that everything was in place for a rebellion before it happened. I've been focusing a lot on human body phenomena and aliens / demons.

To look into : Isis (American invasion force of Syria) Iran contra, the reptilian / archons overlord, fluoride, vaccines and actually anything you believe since odds are it's a lie. Do lsd and force ego death and see how ducked up things get afterwards

Quick points : if it sounds too convenient, odds are it are

Anyone defending Hitlery, Pedosta the pedo child trafficker etc is a fucking shill in my book.

They are guilty of dozens of federal crimes that we know and have HARD EVIDENCE of.

FUCK OFF CTR

Anyone defending Hitlery, Pedosta the pedo child trafficker etc

And that's why no one takes you seriously.

Yeah. 4chan is the gospel. CIA, British Intelligence....they don't know shit. It's the preteens on 4chan that know the truth!!

Yeah, I'm totally a shill. Clearly.

Continue living in your dream world.

Continue living with your head up Hillary's ass

... the ignorance is astounding.

Holy shit the projecting

Tmi, man.

Lol

Hard evidence = 4chan post?

This is why this sub is fucking joke.

tell people to sort by controversial to see the real r/conspiracy sorting by top is just the CTR echo chamber.

I think you mean 7000.

Is it against the site rules to compile a list of potential shills/ctr/bots? Maybe if its hosted off site? We can downvote and expose, but on reddit, number's mean everything and ctr has a very large checkbook.

Sure there may be shills on here but I dont think every single one of them would be one....

David Brock's Correct the Record shill team never went away. They merely reformed under the "American Bridge" name. Look:

Liberal political operative David Brock, a close ally of former Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton, told reporters on Tuesday that his super PAC, American Bridge, has established a war room that will act as an aggressor and a watchdog for the Trump transition team and his incoming administration.

...

American Bridge has established a rapid response team that will fact-check Trump’s claims in real time. Experts are said to be combing through Trump’s domestic and foreign business interests, his personal life, his charitable foundation and those he has associated with, using Freedom of Information Act requests to uncover new details.

...

Brock said that Media Matters will need to retrain its focus from monitoring Fox News and conservative talk radio to combating a scourge of fake news and conspiracy theories that have percolated online.

Source

David Brock owned and operated Correct the Record.

The former Correct the Record operation is probably still intact and operating under the American Bridge name now.

His ex jaime les enfants.

Don't forget, Brock had another SuperPAC called Priorities USA with a budget of $135M. Same agenda.

You are probably right. Redditors in r/all don't post like the ones in the beoynd suspicious top thread do. "Redditors" in r/politics do.

Don't worry. We won't be destroyed. (I don't think.)

Most people recognize this for what it is. St. Isodore, pray for us!

7100 users now.

Can't tell if something was released that they are now going to try burying, or if it's finally hit /conspiracy -

if it has...

• Expect massive anti-trump instead of the usual lack of give a fuck, other than refuting bullshit claims.

• Expect liberal beliefs to be spouted repeatedly - when this happens, there will be no links to their claims. They will not argue your point, but instead either alter what you've said into a claim you didn't make, then argue that, or claim you are attacking them (Victim card OP). They will not become enraged, this is what they are trying to evoke from you. They will remain calm and shill on. I'm not saying people like that don't exist, but not in the numbers it hit other threads at. The biggest tell is statements like "If you believe that...(insult)" - usually inside paragraphs. Don't get paranoid, but remember someone who truly believes something will have a very in depth explanation and will defend said belief and argue the counter points you produce. They will not change your argument unless they are mentally unwell, or shilling/trolling.

Screaming shill at them does nothing. It also just so happens that a lot of people who claim shill are wrong - I also believe this is a tactic used by shills to discredit, but can't prove it.

The best thing you can do, is to just argue the points, and if they go off topic, state that if they would like to remain on topic, you'll continue the conversation, if not, you have no interest.

In brief; read the gentlepersons guide in the sidebar and don't let your emotions get in the way of making rational decisions, including it is worth my time posting or am I just arguing with someone for the sake of arguing (not preferably with exception to arguing about paying for an argument session with John Cleese).

Sometimes walking away from an online argument is the best option, akin to the advantages of not being able to qualify for the special olympics (as a slight reference to an old meme about winning arguments on the internet like winning in the special olympics).

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I am pretty new but never saw it go above maybe 2500 users so far. I must agree this is hinky.

Usually it's around 2500, and tonight we peaked at 7600 which is astounding. I've never seen an article shoot up so fast in points as that Buzzfeed one. Every time I look, it has at least 500 more in a matter of minutes.

It's kind of amusing. LOL

They must really have this sub in their sights! That story has already shot up to almost 6500 points, more than double what it was an hour ago. Astounding.

The pro-war, pro-globalism, pro-Hitlery, pro-child-trafficking crowd are flooding in, and pretending like anyone who questions their presence is "a dum dum conspurracy thurrrist".

LOL. It's pathetic.

Its dropping now. The buzzfeed article just got taken down.

Just saw it go from 7.4k to 6.4k in 20 minutes or so.

I hope it shall pass like a kidney stone eventually does

is there any way it is because a r/conspiracy post is high up on r/all?

Nah, it's obviously because of paid shills (like me) trying to influence the subreddit.

da comrade! Those evil CTR shills are trying of making stronk amerikan like me and you not support the best leader for Amerika. I will go and make football now my friend, touchdows for the motherland!

That doesn't happen around here. r/conspiracy is an easy target to be mocked. "Jet fuel can't melt steel beams" ring a bell?

There is no way these posts make it there without help.

6k right now. Never seen anything close to that.

half of them are rockran alts LOL

I guess people will finally realize not to take reddit seriously

wow, good eye dude. Fuck off CTR!

It used to be a lot higher around the election... it has normalized a bit... but this 6k is out of the ordinary... CTR flipped their on switch to help the 4chan LARPfest I guess...

I'll just go to bed... Still got Muhammad Ali 02 of 02 and Petraeus 04 and 05 to finish... and Comey... still havent caught up on today's Comey news...

https://www.c-span.org/video/?421334-1/senior-intelligence-officials-testify-russia-hacking-activities&amp;live&amp;vod

It's about 10:30 am in India (9pm in California) if that means anything.

So the goal here is what? See what is getting the most up and down votes and counter it?

Trump and Russia.. hello. You're done.

6,141 now.

It's a test run ... seeing how much "resources" they need to spend in this sub to have a worthwhile effect.

How much bang do they get for each (Soros) buck spent!

We're on the frontpage because of this thread: Reports Allege Trump Has Deep Ties To Russia. This is probably the reason for increase traffic.

This is why I am here. I'm not attacking your sub.

I will be watching you like a hawk! (joking)

You sunk my battleship!

The only sub i like sinking is way

It hit the front page way too fast. The amount of upvotes it got within an hour far exceeds the normality of this sub.

Haha go check an t_d thread if you wanna know what vote manipulation looks like. 7000 upvotes and 12 comments. People are just coming here because we may be on the verge of unearthing the most scandalous conspiracy of the 21st century.

Hookers peeing on a bed is the most scandalous conspiracy of the 21st century??!

No but the president elect having strong longterm ties to a foreign enemy just might be.

foreign enemy country

ftfy

The cold war is over

we won!

I think?

Go back to watching TV! Your brainwashing is incomplete. ^/s

The urination part is completely irrelevant. That may get some attention, but the real scandal is the claims of direct communication between the Trump campaign and Moscow for many years and the flow of money related to it.

So is your argument that business with Russia is suspicious behaviour? You know Hillary sold uranium to Russia recently, right?

Hillary sold 20% of America’s uranium to Russia as SoS, Clinton camp worried that the deal is being investigated ​

https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/286

https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/225

As Secretary of State, Hillary approved the transfer of 20 percent of America’s uranium holdings to the Russian state-owned firm ‘Uranium One’, while nine investors in the deal funneled $145 million to the Clinton Foundation. She literally sold off a rare and prime material used in nukes to a country we are at odds with for cold hard cash. John Podesta also has ties to Russia exposed through the WikiLeaks, owning 75,000 shares in a Putin-backed energy company.

b-b-b-but Hillary!

This is no longer Trump vs Hillary. This is no longer Republicans vs Democrats. This is information (I'll refrain from using the word evidence until it's been verified) that implicates long standing and subversive contact between our President Elect and Russian intelligence officials. I don't understand why everything to do with Clinton here is taken at face value but now that it's someone that you all like, it suddenly is ridiculous and how can everyone be so stupid to accept it.

And I voted for Trump! Plus I've been a regular on this sub for two years now!

All I ask is you open your mind to the possibility that this is the case and, whether you think it is or not, don't you think that just the possibility of our PE having hidden, subversive contact with Russian intelligence who also has blackmail material with which to control our soon to be president makes it at least worth investigating? Even if it turns out to be false?

This is no longer about Trump vs. Hillary? It never was about either side of that decaying and irrelevant system. It's about the hypocritical bias of the MSM. The cry for justice over rumors of Trump on the internet that have no real evidence.

Yet we have hundreds of e-mails leaked by Wikileaks, verified legit, from the DNC, Hillary, Podesta, and Weiner that should be enough to throw them all in jail for good and yet there is silence in the MSM.

Pointing out actual evidence that implicates Hillary in numerous crimes against the United States of America, is not taking her actions at "face value". Do not assume I like Trump just because I'm not quick to put his head under a guillotine over rumors on the internet.

(I'll refrain from using the word evidence until it's been verified)

That's kind of the entire point of the disinterest you see. None of these sources are verified. Wikileaks at least has a system for verifying encrypted signatures for the likes of US official documents and e-mails.

I'm completely open to the possibility that Trump could be currently involved in any number of illegal activities. I think this allegation is worth investigating, solely to see if any of these claims can actually be verified in a satisfying manner. I mean honestly so far there isn't much of a controversy to investigate, they claim he pissed on hookers and has Russia intelligence. Ignoring the fact that all of this is ridiculously vague, that's a pretty tame controversy honestly, compared to what most politicians get into.

if you have to keep pretending that's the only thing in there, realize you're the problem

The Donald is like that because they upvte everything on their own sub, they don't need bots or shills, here is a very different story, our top posts usually have under a thousand up votes and almost never hit the front page, so such a huge influx is telling.

T_D is a bit of a special case, the userbase there is unusually engaged and active relative the subscription count, there are 3-12k active users on there at all times. They also have a weird cultural quirk where they do not really downvote each other.

The amount of upvotes it got within an hour far exceeds the normality of this sub.

Yeah, because it hit the front page, I and many others are here because of it. Relax pal no ones here to hurt you.

There are plenty here to hurt this sub.

FALSE. THAT STATEMENT IS INCORRECT. WE MEAN NO HURT TO THIS SUB. HOW ARE YOU FELLOW HUMAN?

I am just a bot, I cannot respond to certain commands. Please direct all inquiries to my creator, Hillary Clinton.

See. You're acting like an absolute idiot and there really is no need for it.

TRUE. TRUMP IS AN ABSOLUTE IDIOT. DID YOU TO VOTE FOR HILLARY FELLOW HUMAN?

I am just a bot, I cannot respond to certain commands. Please direct all inquiries to my creator, Hillary Clinton.

Voted for JFK

r/conspiracy posts never hit the front page that is why we are concerned this breaks the norm here by wide margins, and what is suspicious is this sort of shit never gets traction from the users here. its buzzfeed ffs, this is not a source ANYONE here would ever trust let along mass upvote and give gold to.

Strange that when an actual conspiracy happens, people come to the conspiracy sub, huh?

what makes it an "actual conspiracy" because its some one you dont like? or the fact that its Buzzfeed aka Bullshit factory is publishing it?

No, because it got covered internationally already.

I'm not saying the pizzagate nonsense isn't a conspiracy theory. In fact, saying 'actual conspiracy' is a bit of a misnomer.

I guess I meant to say 'big conspiracy', so, sorry for that one.

How is it not a conspiracy. I want you to take the dictionary definition of conspiracy and work backwards to who you think is putting this information out into the world and what their motivations are.

it would be if it wasnt so easily debunked

I was being serious. Here's your format: "I think proper conspiracies are ________ and this is different, and isn't a conspiracy because ________"

r/conspiracy posts never hit the front page that is why we are concerned this breaks the norm here by wide margins

This is a reasonable conspiracy that impacts the PEOTUS. I came to this sub out of curiosity after seeing the news on CNN. I thought maybe this place would really grab onto a report of Russian manipulation that is backed by one of the most credible journalists out there.

But, instead, I just see a bunch of Trumpettes claiming this is fake news and making up claims about 4chan (which are growing by the minute. Soon, people will be claiming someone on 4chan wrote the entire memo.)

i mean you would be right normally if this wasnt so obviously engineered. 1. this is fucking buzzfeed, buzzfeed is viewed as a completely ridiculous internet tabloid by the majority of this sub.

1. this rocketed to the top of the sub, and then on to r/all in complete contravention of the normal workings of this sub.

2. this occured just hours after Assange heaped prasie on Reddit for investigating and going through the initial DNC/Podesta/Clinton emails, something that was primarily done by this sub.

this sort of surge in traffic is very very abnormal here. even the Snowden leaks did not cause this sort of surge, to us that is very very suspicious. the explanation of well it was on r/all also falls flat because the fact it gained that sort of traction based on the normal users here is also very very abnormal.

who is this credible journalist you are reffering to because it certainly is no anyone from buzzfeed, at least in the opinions of the reg users. wikileaks and Greenwald have already called bullshit on the story, and those are two that are held in, relatively, high regard here for the things they have exposed.

I know the rules here are a little lax on credible sources but the idea that CNN has the most credible journalists out there is laughable. It's common knowledge that Obama's cabinet and respective lobbyists have a stranglehold on CNN. It reminds me of the dark days of Bush's relationship with Fox News. That's not to say CNN is completely incompetent at their job but they are definitely compromised. I would take anything they say about Trump with a huge grain of salt.

I know the rules here are a little lax on credible sources but the idea that CNN has the most credible journalists out there is laughable

This is the guy who broke Watergate. He has decades of credibility and would lose all of that if this story were false.

And John McCain has confirmed the report from CNN. So, unless you think McCain is in on the Democratic conspiracy.....

So a journalist that had credibility in a completely different era of news media 40+ years ago, now strives for relevance in the age of news 2.0. Which is a completely different beast that encourages a lack of journalistic integrity.

The MSM has been playing the same smear campaign like a broken record for too long. I'm all for finding dirt on politicians and exposing it, but every time the MSM puts forth new content on Trump, it has been devoid of any substantial evidence and is reduced to baseless accusations that only hurt the MSM's credibility.

Personally I wouldn't trust John McCain as far as I could throw him, I don't see any reason to start trusting him now. The man has been beating war drums lately like he's leading the first charge into battle.

So a journalist that had credibility in a completely different era of news media 40+ years ago, now strives for relevance in the age of news 2.0. Which is a completely different beast that encourages a lack of journalistic integrity.

You're right. He probably got tired of being respected and decided to push a fake story in order to destroy his career. That seems like a much more plausible scenario.....

If that is the scenario playing out, it wouldn't destroy his career. It is completely legal for him to do so at this point. As long as it is government sanctioned and pushed by Obama's cabinet to CNN, he is covered under the NDAA(http://www.businessinsider.com/ndaa-legalizes-propaganda-2012-5).

There's nothing illegal about pushing the government's agenda in the MSM. I'm sure Trump will utilize this tool once inaugurated as well.

cause this is kind of the biggest actual conspiracy to happen in ever?

What's crazy is that I didn't see the damn thing all day long and then it just appeared. I am on this sub all day, didn't see it at all. So in my mind there is no way it made it to r/all from here. I may be missing something, but I don't think I am.

buzzfeed's entire business model is built around their investigative journalism department. They make all of the shitty click bait bullshit to funnel resources into the serious wing of the company. Its weird as hell, but they have actually written some good stuff.

ahahahaha wow that is rich

It's a story that a ton of people want to be true, that's why it got upvoted so much.

This is why I am here. I'm not attacking your sub.

No regular here would post some buzzfeed bullshit

Pretty much this.

And why do you think it had to have been posted by a regular? Someone saw it, and thought it was a conspiracy. It's as simple as that.

Then it wouldn't get upvoted by the regulars to pass the 100 initial upvotes needed for visibility. It wasn't organic growth

Of course it couldn't be possible that traffic to r/conspiracy was higher because of the news that just broke and people wanted to see if there was anything on it on the subreddit. I didn't even see the post on r/all I came to r/conspiracy because I know how Trump slanted it is and I was curious how this would be spun.

Most of the people here aren't pro Trump, personally, I believe his "wife" is transgendered so that should tell you where I'm at

But if you're not a regular here, then how could you know if something was out of the ordinary with no basis against which to compare it?

Just because I'm not a regular doesn't mean I've never read this subreddit before. The pizza gate stuff was hilarious, but I'm not in here on a daily or weekly basis.

Also the fact that the biggest conspiracy we've seen so far in this presidency is marked "unverified allegations" pretty much shows how biased this place is. I didn't see any unverified tags on any pizzagate shit.

Well, the fact that a Buzzfeed article skyrocketed to such a high upvote count doesn't mesh with the subreddit's past style and history. Also look at where the conspiracy comes from in this case, a corporation. That's why we don't believe it, because it falls into their narrative.

And 2017 should be interesting for pizzagate. We'll see where we stand in a few months on it

But there's no corporations that could have a stake in the whole pizzagate thing hey? Riiiight.

The panini and burrito industries don't have the resources to pull off that kind of operation.

So I'll bite, why do you think his wife is a tranny?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9kMIxmFJOS8

Anyone who read the article or even looked at the dossier would realise that this could all be made up. Buzzfeed is notorious for publishing articles that are sensationalist with misleading titles. I for one have no fucking clue why an ex-british intelligence individual would ask buzzfeed out of all the news he could ask to publish his dossier.

Just like EVERY OTHER THING HERE. That's the irony here. Every conspiracy theory could be made up! That's why it's called a conspiracy theory and not established fact!

The mods banned my account for being critical of them, I'm about to make a post but I know it will be removed. IDK what to do.

But good thing they post Breitbart articles

and it's hilarious seeing trumpers say this sub is being taken over, this sub was completely co opted by them

Lame anti-Trump nonsense, that wouldn't get 50 real upvotes here, this isn't a /r/politics circle-jerk.

Why are there so many downvotes? Every thread has 60-70% upvote ratio...

I'm so glad you guys live up to the stereotype, the biggest political scandal in history might be unravelling in front of the world featuring a huge conspiracy but 'non-regulars' in your sub must be shills paid to bury some pizza thing. Never change guys, never change.

Ah yes, keep defending the child traffickers because you want to hear more about some story made up by a 4chan roleplayer.

You're such a special snowflake skeptic you are ;)

Like the pedo code for pizzagate

made up by a 4chan roleplayer.

You can't call one thing on 4chan BS but then use another thing as "evidence"

Kimmy if i was to say pull up a few voat pizzagate threads for you, do you reckon you would be able refute the findings for me please. You seem to be fairly confident pizzagates fake so it would put alot of our minds at rest. Cheers!

Not sure if sarcasm but if not, please go ahead. Don't get me wrong I love a good conspiracy, when the facts are presented in a logical manner, I don't want to upset the applecart but for me the evidence against pizzagate MASSIVELY outweighs any evidence in favour of it.

Ah even better. Not that i would put the burden of proof on someone defending against a claim, but seeing as though you have stated theres evidence that 'massively outweighs any evidence in favour of it' could you please provide me with that? Im from Australia and its past midnight so ill check it out in the morning. That way ill have the time to comb through it all, cheers.

I would imagine this was probably the voat thread you were referring to btw.

https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1497611

Here are 3 sources that I have read, as well as many others supporting pizzagate.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pizzagate_conspiracy_theory

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/12/10/business/media/pizzagate.html?_r=0

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-trending-38156985

I accept the inevitable downvotes as these are MSM and not some fringe article that was written on a napkin in a secret bunker in the galapagos islands. For me personally they have provided "proof" that pizzagate isn't real.

Also I do just want to say, if there is some sort of trafficking ring operated out of a pizza shop, and 4chan was correct then I will be the first to eat my hat and hope the victims get justice.

Also I do just want to say, if there is some sort of trafficking ring operated out of a pizza shop, and 4chan was correct then I will be the first to eat my hat and hope the victims get justice.

I feel the same, and would help you eat that hat.

At the same time, I'm not stocking up on antacids...

Just fyi all the 4chan links circulating that you probably glanced at and assumed were proof all have absolutely nothing to do with this. Like "pizza=rape" levels of irrelevancy. But we're the special snowflakes right?

They got played by pol and are going crazy lmao

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-CG5w4YwOI

It's to upvote that bullshit story about Trump hiring prostitutes to pee on a bed because Michelle Obama had slept in it previously. It's like seriously? That's all you can come up with?

CTR truly are pathetic trash. Hitlerina's useful idiot crowd are worse though, because they're even dumber and aren't even getting paid.

It's called having a top /r/all post. Calm the fuck down people don't give a damn about you.

and being an overall popular topic all over reddit, but no it must be shilling lmao.

"Everyone who disagrees with me and comments on Reddit is a paid shill"

But my political biases!?!?!!

^/s

this sub has ruined the word "shill". might as well be "sheeple" at this point.

No. You are missing the entire point.

We don't have threads that go from new to top of all in minutes without explicit outside influence.

It's anti-Trump. People on Reddit don't much like Trump so of course it got upvoted.

Did you noticed how many gilded posts there are in the comments section? I've never seen a gilded post on r/conspiracy, and now I'm looking at several of them in one thread. Methinks someone is pushing an agenda out of sheer desperation.

Is that some how a conspiracy at all? People push their agendas and other people push their agendas! That's how all this works!

Don't you see that those "agenda's" are not genuine at all?

Yes because every agenda that does not support your world view is not genuine. Be live me I think that there are upvote bots on both Trump and the Democrats side.

How old are you? How many presidencies have you been paying attention to? How many have ever done anything except kick the can down the road. Everyone since JFK has been towing the line.

You buy into the blue vs. red? Coke vs. Pepsi? It's a game.

I'm a communist so yes I know they're all the same in truth. It's just team 1 backed by conservative billionare robber barons and tean 2 backed by slightly less conservative billionare robber barons.

So if we all understand the level of manipulation here, why would you post that you're not positive that it's a conspiracy?

Is that some how a conspiracy at all?

I'm getting mixed signals here. It's an ignorant comment considering what you just said.

It's just team 1 backed by conservative billionare...

You don't think that's a conspiracy?

Isn't a conspiracy a secret plot? What I meant was everyone knows this, it's an open secret everyone knows it happens. I'm not saying it's not bad, it's horrible, but it's not secret. The question isn't if things are messed up. The question is how the hell do we fix this?

You have a funny way of getting to that final statement.

And you have proof for this? If you call liberals bots, I can call you guys Kremlin bots too.

Are you kidding? Google it. You can buy votes. You can pay people to be here and shill for you. Do the work.

In /r/conspiracy, literally everything is a conspiracy (that's why I come here after any sort of event.)

r/Im14andEverythingIsAConspiracy

no, r/conspiracy has not given gold to people since Schwartz killed himself, we recognize this place was taken over and generally refuse to fund this shit.

ooooooo spooky gilding. Never seen those before. Must be CTR

https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/gilded/

Did you read what the gilded posts say?

Which ones? There are scores of them

The people you bump into when shit like this hits the front page.

Must be a conspiracy.

which is completely abnormal for this sub, gilding almost never happens here with legit users.

I saw a few gilded posts a few weeks ago, and people talking about how they've never seen a gilded posts before.

The post on the the front page is not anti-Trump, it's anti-Biden.

Do you know how many anti trump post that are posted here that get 0 traction. That are even more valid then this piss gate thing. To deny paid upvoting is disingenuous at best.

You're a fucking idiot. It's hitting r/all because this involves the fucking President Elect. Take off the tinfoil hat, your subreddit isn't special enough to warrant 'explicit outside influence'.

Ad hominem attack, unable to have a rational discussion, dismissive of proven tactics used by pretty much every single major entity that gives half a crap about its image?

Yup I must be the idiot.

Well at least you're acknowledging you're an idiot, that's something. Now go sit in a corner and think about how the world actually works.

How much do you love deep throating HillDawg's dildo?

Learn the difference between an ad hominem attack and an insult. He called you an idiot independently of constructing a rational argument, which you conveniently ignored.

Stop binging on the wikipedia article about logical fallacies, you absolute moron.

Hahahaha in the thread that is labelled "we are under attack" I get non stop insulted by random posters with literally nothing to talk about except attacking my little comment that the trump thread got a huge amount of votes very quickly.

You guys do the work for us. hahahahaa.

Hey, hey, watch it with those ad hominems!

Careful you don't get into a legitimate discussion and not pick up the back end of someone else's argument to attack a stranger for claiming oh hey, this post got a lot of upvotes very quickly!!

Fucking hell you are an inspiration to posters everywhere, if only subredditdrama was of interest or use to anyone with half a brain cell you could of been famous.

Rule 10, first warning.

so how the hell did it get to r/all in the first place? because its quite clear it was not this subs users who upvoted it to get it there.

It probably hit some threshhold and got enough exposure to fly to the top you know like how posts from other smal sub sometimes randomly hit the frontpage.

The reason no posts from this sub normally does well is because what you upvote in here is always pro trump so when that gets enoug expose most of reddit will pass it over because it does not like Trump.

During election season you semiregularly see this sub on /r/all though.

Translated from Schizophrenic to English:

"Red alert red alert! There's a lot of people online in 'our' (public) subreddit! That means there is a possibility some of those people might disagree with me! I know everything about everything, so that's impossible.

I got it! Someone must be paying someone to disagree with me, specifically.. must be Hillary Clinton!"

CTR exists.

I'm literally John Podesta so I would know if I was CTR or not..

"Everything that confirms my beliefs must be real."

"Everything that challenges my beliefs must be a conspiracy."

What a bundle of loonies you guys are, huh? Trump has a 37% approval rating and you think it's suspicious that people don't like him.

duur how does reddit work the post

But my political biases!?!?!!^/s

But my political biases!?!?!!

^/s

Lol, they've deleted the main post on /conspiracy now. Couldn't make this stuff up.

Now THAT is a conspiracyq

It came straight back up, but the flair changed again.

we're all here wondering why this idiotic post ever made it to r/all because it sure as fuck wasnt us upvoting such obvious bullshit.

Please stop with this shit. "We're under attack!!!"

Give me a fucking break. A post hit /r/all, and is currently in the top ten.

You know what that does? Causes a massive, temporary spike in the sub's traffic. Jfc.

The post hitting all had nothing to do with anyone in this community.

The amount of upvotes that thread got even before it hit r/all should concern you.

then explain how the post ever got to r/all given how critical of it the regular r/conspiracy user are of it and how buzzfeed is considered to be one of the biggest bullshit factories by us?

Regular conspiracy users wouldn't be critical of a huge potential conspiracy, they would upvote it so that it could be discussed. I hate how the T_D scrubs have moved here and talk about it like it's their sub. Oh look, ANOTHER account created right around the time all that shit started.

Real r/conspiracy users don't go around crying "Bullshit!" on sources because we aren't trying to control a narrative. And if you had spent any real time here, you'd know there are plenty of specious sources posted here, that's the reality of being in a conspiracy theory sub.

Now they/you want to cry about shilling because it threatens their ability to control the narrative, which they have done very effectively since the election. Hypocrites.

note the 5 on the end of my user name ive been banned by that cunt bi_polarbear that many times. stop throwing your baseless accusation at me, im calling bullshit on buzzfeed. if you arent your an idiot.

Where do I recieve my shill money?

The jizz from David Brock's dick was contractually stated to be your payment; you didn't know?

Get fucked CTR tards.

Im just sort of reading going on. Im more of a browser here than someone who comments alot. Is the gist of it CTR and other folks from places r/politics are flooding in here to get this story about Trump being compromised by Russia as a last ditch effort before the inauguration. At the same time ridiculing pizzagate and the theory that the dc leaker was Seth Rich? Are my ducks mostly in a row now? Im actually trying to understand and would appreciate non asshole answers and not accusing me of anything

It's kind of spooky to see the propaganda machine in full force. I wonder if they could ever trick people into supporting an unjustified war?

This sub is dead because they refuse to actually take action against shills and useful idiots.

Do they think this activity looks organic? Do they even care? What a joke!

"I went to /r/conspiracy for reptiles and all I got was shills"

Looking at the history of allot of these "new" people explains allot..

AVG post is like 200-500... that one gets 9k out of thin air.

The comments are all so see through.

I wish the mods would just delete the entire thread, as it's so obviously been manipulated.

Also notice the posting histories of so many of them.

I actually posted for first time today on how ridiculous it was, and how fast all of reddit was manipulated.

buzzfeed itself released a memo saying they couldn't verify 1 SINGLE THING! lol

You wish the mods would censor this sub so it aligns with your beliefs? You are the cancer that's been destroying this sub for months.

Redditor for 16 days, shocking.

BECAUSE IT'S ON FUCKING /ALL!

And how the fuck did it get to r/all?

One of the top comments mentions this sub, so many people (myself included as evidence) came here to have a look.

so the programming worked

No, I saw with my own eyes what happened. It got 300 upvotes in 1 hour. And it kept getting 100 upvotes every 10 minutes. That NEVER happens for ANYTHING in this sub. And now you want us to believe that an Anti-Trump Russian thread got upvoted naturally on /r/conspiracy?

Seek a psychiatrist. Seriously

What about his post is indicative of him needing mental health help?

I think you lost the argument and resorted to an insult

Because he talks like my uncle in law who was later diagnosed with schizophrenia and then shot himself in the head, because he thought the government was coming after him.

Ignoring simple answers, he insteads comes up with some paranoid reasoning that this is a coordinated attack with no evidence to back up that claim.

His claims are backed up by a lot of users here if you read the comments. Me too, i was up all night and my comment history can prove it. It's not paranoia if it's true

Then you need to seek help as well. I'm not trying to be insulting. My uncle was obsessed over this type of stuff for many years, and every year his paranoia got worse and worse.

We tried to get him help, but he refused to do it because he thought he was the only sane one, and that we also were part of the government to discredit him, and that psychiatrists are evil demons from satan.

Your uncle was probably right

He was right that his grandmother in law and myself are government spies that were after him?

That part no, but getting medically interned would probably be hell so it's normal to be scared of that shit. You don't want to be reprogrammed

That's not how psychiatry works. I've been to several, some while I served in the military, some at my university, and some at the VA.

And if some type of reprogramming existed, I wish that he DID get it. He was a threat to his family and to those around him. He was the sole bread winner in his family, and he started to make his children and family stay at home because he thought that all of the food outside was poisoned. A few days later he said that the house was haunted by evil demons, and that his family needed to stay at his mother's home. A few days later, he was running down the street yelling green green green green. A week or two later, he told his wife that he needs to kill himself to save his children. A few days later he shot himself.

What sucks is that he was a good man who really did care about his family. The problem was that he was developing a mental illness that him and his family did not want to acknowledge that he had a issue in the early days of it, and the worst part of it was that there was forums like this one and youtube videos made by other schizophrenics with misinformation put out by conspiracy sites like infowars that took advantage of him and made his condition much worse.

No one wants your psychiatric advice. First warning.

Warning for what? What rule did I break? I'm seriously concerned. My uncle had serious mental health issues and was obsessed with this stuff. I don't want what happened to him and his family to happen to anyone on here.

I'm not going to repeat myself. The next time you tell someone they're mentally ill you'll be banned, full stop. Have a nice day.

Otherwise known as a brigade.

A brigade has to be organised.

Do you think people care enough about this sub to brigade it?

Any evidence?

Brigades don't have to be organized, linking to a sub with a polar opposite mentality is enough to cause a portion of your userbase to go over their and vote according to their own beliefs, and to engage in an attempt to alter the discussion in favor of their opinions.

That's why certain subs have lost the ability to use /r/ links, either to specific subs or in general.

I could go into any default and link to any incel subreddit with no other words and they'd wind up brigaded, it happens any time they're linked, people are so compelled to attack them or downvote them that they simply can't help themselves.

Then someone needs to use a different word.

Brigade literally means organised.

Not really, the other week WhiteBeauty was brigaded, at first because of a single link in an askreddit thread, and then because one of the posts reached all.

None of them said "hey, go and target these people" but people felt compelled to anyway and did so in numbers far outside the norm of the subreddit, altering it's conversation and voting norms such as now.

You seem like a decent person, and what you say makes sense, so I don't want to fall out - I just have a problem with the word being bandied around in the wrong context.

Brigading means to attack something in an ordered and structured manner - like it's pre-planned and communicated.

This is just accidental, it wasn't a plot against /conspiracy - it just so happened that people landed here and realised that it was basically t_d2.0 - and the flair on the post kinda confirmed it.

Maybe, just maybe, the people who put /r/conspiracy in their comments had a clue what would happen, but there is no way they could have foreseen the effect.

Ye man i get that, i felt our discussion was very civil, it certainly made me consider my position far more than the average disagreement does. Have a great day.

Any evidence?

Lol. Dude. You are on the conspiracy sub, don't expect to get anywhere with that question. Someone will probably copy and paste a link to a 4chan archive that is totally irrelevant and tell you that it proves the trump alligations wrong.

There's a top comment in the /r/politics megathread referring to this sub, so I came to see what all the fuss was about. Promise I'm not a bot.

Hey comrade

Just wanna tell you about the bots party we'll be having later on for our successful infiltration of the /r/conspiracy sub

Master Clinton is happy. Keep up the good work.

Ugh...funny, dude, funny. Clearly I'm a clinton shill being paid off by Clinton 2 months after the election.

I'm being sarcastic lol.

I'm parroting what /r/conspiracy thinks of us /r/all lurkers.

Yeah Clinton pays so well I hear!

But I haven't got any checks yet. Could you tell me how to collect my checks?

The crushing sense of worthlessness is all they'll ever pay for being a useful idiot.

So...CTR isn't paying off online shills?

In other words because of a brigade by Hitlerinas in r/politics, by your own admission.

/thread

/r/politics

By your logic /r/conspiracy is now brigading /r/politics.

I mean, it was hardly a brigade, it was just linked to. There wasnt exactly an organized attacks here. Also, I'm not American and completely ambivalent to american politics, so dont worry that I'm here to crash your Trump party.

Finally, it's really hard to take someone that uses "Hiterly-tards" seriously. Just keep that in mind.

"I put my comment in all caps so people know I'm legit"

My damn sides! Many of us came here from /r/subredditdrama, not /r/politics.

Why do you say it's briganding? Just because it was linked?

Personally, when I started to see the headlines of this "anti-Trump" conspiracy my first thought was to check out r/conspiracy to see if it had been posted here... mainly because I expected to see some weapons grade hypocrisy in this blatantly pro-Trump sub.

I wasn't wrong.

I upvoted the thread and lots of comments from like-minded people who were also pointing out the blatant hypocrisy on display.

I would imagine that lots of other people did the same. It's basically a form of schadenfreude... watching you lot wriggle and squirm to convince yourselves that THIS conspiracy CANT be true... because that would burst your collective pro-Trump bubble.

Just stop.

https://i.sli.mg/AJFay0.png

How does that relate to how the post got to /r/all?

WOWIE.

What can we do to help?

Shouldn't we have made a thread like "Hi Trump may or may not have paid prostitutes to pee on Obama's bed, but we definitely fluoride is lowering your IQ and 911 was an inside job"

Why make a thread that makes us look like a bunch of hysterics?

Ironically enough I made the thread and the responce so far has made me think this place is getting shilled hard, I mean, all these people comparing 911 truth to flat earth and lizard people???

https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/5naqcl/to_the_new_influx_of_users_welcome_trump_may_or/

people comparing 911 truth to flat earth and lizard people

To the vast majority of people, these are equally unlikely.

gotta love those talking points.

lets see harvard agrees with the flouride one. and the NIST report is ridiculous to anyone with highschool level physics.

Continue talking continue thinking. Bots can't do nor stop that less you allow them.

What better place to go when we have a president elect with deep ties to Russia and serious evidence that they are blackmailing him. I agree 100%!

You wouldn't mind producing that evidence.

(CRICKETS)

Claims in a PDF aren't evidence. Your feelings aren't evidence.

Hitlery supporters are fucking retarded goverment faither trash.

You can't allow non-Russian shills to post!

TIL anyone who doesn't uncritically accept anything Hitlery or CNN claim with no evidence is a "Russian shill".

More complete retardation from the Hitlery crowd.

Yes. Just using your own stupid logic against you.

Yep. This sucks

well, i guess if you look on the brightside, because they chose to link this report with conspiracies by linking to this sub and going hog wild here, the report is now forever more linked to conspiracies, foiling their main objective.

whoever directed the brigand campaign forgot or didn't know rule number one: you create links, however tenuous, with known conspiracy theories to discredit what you are linking...(oops)

piryhhic victory for them at best. even if it's true, it is now branded with the scarlet CT.

i'm more freaked out by the fact that whoever wants WW3 with russia just can't quit that shit. even if every word is accurate, those trying to gin up war fever are really scraping the dregs if the barrel with scum and sludge, if this report is what they've sunk to.

over/under for false flag "KGB" inargual assiniation?

over/under for the false flag fizziling because half the nation is grateful and the other thinks it's a false flag?

project northwoods redux.

Must be a bunch of Drumphkins DER DER DER! /s

I saw the title at the top of my front page and and had to do a double take to see it wasn't on /r/news

It's too much to hope that there's red pills & people waking up?

Oh well. I am going to try to keep being more active in many ways, including posting more here and everywhere.

/r/ConspiracyAlt

I'd also like to point out that the majority of us here are non partisan. We reject the two party system and we support neither Donald Trump nor Clinton

This.

You might be under attack because thousands of people from the massive trump thread on the front page just found this sub and don't agree with the posts.

But paid shills? Seriously. The timing makes sense, huge trump conspiracy and then an influx of users in this sub.

You might be under attack because thousands of people from the massive trump thread on the front page just found this sub and don't agree with the posts.

You mean because they decided to brigade the thread with their fucktarded, inbred ad hominems and smug fucking comments pretending that they're "supa smart skeptics, unlike dos dum conspurracy thurrasts, cos we believe things without evidunce".

Yeah, real smart.

I don't give a shit about Hilary or trump, I'm British and I happen to think both of those people are useless idiots.

Also I'm not even doing what you said, so why am I an insect?

I just think the sensible explanation for why the sub has suddenly got a lot of new users is the huge front page post about trump rather than bots...

I'm a paid shill? When do I get my paycheck? Rofl this sub is so fucking ridiculous at times.

I think you mean "all the time."

agrreed all rat fuckers fuck off!

I'm just here from r/all but if anyone would like to pay me to shill I would be totally down for it.

What a bunch of fucking dolts. Then again it's trump voters so I know what to expect.

a real live conspiracy and you centipedes are turning a blind eye... SAD!

"As we noted in our story, there is serious reason to doubt the allegations" As much as i hate zionism you really are fucking goyam.

Oh my god, more people than ever before are visiting this sub....it must be an attack! Help! Way to introduce people in a calm and logical manner, idiots

I think we're just here since you guys are going crazy on both sides of this issue and it's fun to watch

The post hits r/all, gets referenced in r/politics and it's the most potentially significant political story in months. Then the r/conspiracy thread gets tagged with "unverified allegations" as if this subs entire purpose and content isn't exactly that. And after all of this it's surprising to see the traffic the sub received?

Jesus Christ some of you are idiots.

The people in this sub who aren't shills and who keep to being moderate and try to expose the corruption and lies need to first: Ignore the shills and their Trolling ways. They always come off as ridiculous. And Second: Get Res and start marking the ones who are highly likely to be shills. And not just here, but anywhere they appear on Reddit. That way you have a higher chance of spotting them and therefor ignoring them.

Rule 10. Removed. 1st warning.

Dude, you guys have been on the front page, and literally the biggest political scandal in history is being discussed. Hell it's why I'm here.

Not everything is done by shills, dude.

"…literally the biggest political scandal in history…"

And you claim not to be a shill

They're here to laugh at you lol

Another useless post without any substance. It is us, laughing at kids like you, because you are just warm wind.

Keep on fighting my dude, don't let the warm wind stop you

Dudette and no I won't. I had already forgotten about you.

20 hours later you've forgotten about me, good 2 know bro

Maybe it's because an actual conspiracy is being broken wide open. No couldn't be that cause it didn't have anything to do with pizza and non existent basements.

To me a good conspiracy theorist is an honest person who demands honesty from others. I am not worthy yet, but I look forward to the day when the dummies call me a "conspiratard". The very best conspiracy theorists are absolutely amazing at piecing information together. People like Alex Jones (who is a fucking liar) give conspiracy theorists a bad name.

I'm a paid shill

You're ridiculous. Conspiracy has a bunch of posts on the front page. That drives traffic here.

This sub does not belong to you Cheetotards. If anyone has destroyed this sub it's the T_D PizzaG8 idiots who've overrun this sub in the last 6 months.

Paid shills

Or or or.. the fact that it reaches r/all and people come here and see how r/conspiracy has turned to r/The_Donald .

Jesus fucking Christ, this sub has be compromised by literal fucking retards.

I find it funny tho, if its Anti-Trump it must be 'EVIL SHILLS' but if its Pro-Trump its all good in the hood.

Its like that game snatchers

There are a lot of people here now to see how the sub will attack 4chan as not a valid source, considering that Pizzagate is built 100% on the back of 4chan threads.

STFU. Us real conspiracy guys and long time subscribers welcome as many new people as possible. We seek truth not play political cheerleader.

If there are shills here so be it. They will be gone soon. Us fully woke members dont care about an influx of people and can usually deferintiate between real and fake. Also we dont feel the need to defend people in general. We seek truth regardless who it helps or hurts.

This whole WE MUST DEFEND THIS SUB is faggot ass The_donald shit. I support Trump but you motherfuckers and your internet games are lame as fuck.

This sub has gone completely to shit today

Lol you paranoid fuck

That's pretty crazy, there must be like 2000 or more organized/paid shills, or more likely 200 people with 10 devices all using different VPNs on each..and going back and forth between them.

Hidee Hoo Need a Towel?

Hi, I was told I could pickup my shill paychecks here? I was also told there would be cake?

I don't really comment much but I do find these threads interesting and read them a lot.

i think TPTB are panicking right now because we know McCain is a reptilian shape shifter,

unless that isn't what we were suppose to notice, besides that i would say the "new" tab is showing more relevant post about the brigading right now than controversial

I dont think so. Crazy

Use that down vote on their shilled posts!

It's really fucking strange to read this thread, you people really believe you are some kind of new age freedom fighters huh?

da comrade! Those evil CTR shills are trying of making stronk amerikan like me and you not support the best leader for Amerika. I will go and make football now my friend, touchdows for the motherland!

no oo you said cheers!

Mate, you have problems.

Anyone defending Hitlery, Pedosta the pedo child trafficker etc

And that's why no one takes you seriously.

Yeah if only we just had some vague emails where Trump mentions pizza that would be ultimate evidence of prett much anything we wanted it to be evidence of.

No, because it got covered internationally already.

I'm not saying the pizzagate nonsense isn't a conspiracy theory. In fact, saying 'actual conspiracy' is a bit of a misnomer.

I guess I meant to say 'big conspiracy', so, sorry for that one.

Hard evidence = 4chan post?

This is why this sub is fucking joke.

so your just going to ignore the question of did you read the fucking article? thats says an awful lot, did you at least read it after?

I'm literally John Podesta so I would know if I was CTR or not..

How is it not a conspiracy. I want you to take the dictionary definition of conspiracy and work backwards to who you think is putting this information out into the world and what their motivations are.

"I went to /r/conspiracy for reptiles and all I got was shills"

He was right that his grandmother in law and myself are government spies that were after him?

This is no longer about Trump vs. Hillary? It never was about either side of that decaying and irrelevant system. It's about the hypocritical bias of the MSM. The cry for justice over rumors of Trump on the internet that have no real evidence.

Yet we have hundreds of e-mails leaked by Wikileaks, verified legit, from the DNC, Hillary, Podesta, and Weiner that should be enough to throw them all in jail for good and yet there is silence in the MSM.

Pointing out actual evidence that implicates Hillary in numerous crimes against the United States of America, is not taking her actions at "face value". Do not assume I like Trump just because I'm not quick to put his head under a guillotine over rumors on the internet.

(I'll refrain from using the word evidence until it's been verified)

That's kind of the entire point of the disinterest you see. None of these sources are verified. Wikileaks at least has a system for verifying encrypted signatures for the likes of US official documents and e-mails.

I'm completely open to the possibility that Trump could be currently involved in any number of illegal activities. I think this allegation is worth investigating, solely to see if any of these claims can actually be verified in a satisfying manner. I mean honestly so far there isn't much of a controversy to investigate, they claim he pissed on hookers and has Russia intelligence. Ignoring the fact that all of this is ridiculously vague, that's a pretty tame controversy honestly, compared to what most politicians get into.

Well you're already smarter than the 6) million who did.

Yeah, cause from my history you can clearly see I post pro Trump propaganda. And yeah, this account is 4 months old. Been lurking a long time though and have seen a lot of changes. As have you. But as usual don't believe me...don't care...just another dude on the internet.