This is an ugly forum!

A shill forum!

A forum hostile to free thought as we know it!

Why is CTR still around if the election is over?

It is an inexpensive way to sway "organic" discussion on social media.

In order... to... get Hillary... elected?

Spell it out for us man.

It was. But it is a useful tool. Don't throw useful tools away. It has other applications.

2 replies and no answers.

Your post history is revealing.

You're right, I joined Reddit 7 years ago, actively participated in many subs that have nothing to do with politics - all in anticipation of this moment.

Gotta love that sweet, sweet CTR $$$$

Buying reddit accounts is a common tool they use for shills, so yeah

And what a sad fucking account to buy. The post history is depressing. If you asked me to remember my Reddit password from 6-7 years ago I'd probably already have stopped listening half way through the question because I'd have already created a new account.

Well reddit might be giving away old accounts to them for free, spez is a partisan anti free speech faggot after all.

Good point. Are we allowed to say fuck u/spez here? I forget with all the special rules and bans they rolled out. Which subs and opinions are allowed again? Hard to keep it all straight. They should pen a weekly memo.

IDK, probably gonna be banned in a week for it lol

Damn I have some sweet karma on this account too. Gonna have to rebuild my internet cred all over again.

Do some reposts on r/gaming from like 4 years back, you'll be back in no time lol

dude pay no attention to this lunatic. He said my account was purchased too because i criticized his emperor. When do I get my fucking money tho???

Ask Obama, he's the one that hands out the welfare.

oh shit youre crazy too my bad i replied to the wrong person

Lol it's confirmed I guess. Gimme that check.

Jee I wonder what kind of people CTR would hire... Maybe people who GO on Reddit... HMMMMM

Here's a suggestion: to spread disinformation and confuse discussion. When the lower classes organize to a certain point, the upper class gets guillotined. It's in the interest of corrupt political groups to hire shills to interrupt that process of organization.

Turn their attention in every direction. Break up cohesion. It's the Russians, no it's the CIA, no it's Trump, no it's Hillary, no it's Pizzagate, no it's Fake News, no it's the Alt-Right, no it's BLM, no it's...and on and on. Turn them against each other. Invent plausible fakes to distract discussion. If and when a critical mass start going towards a fake lead, advance another fake, or even the truth, but in a divisive way. Make them unable to tell who is a shill and who is not.

It doesn't matter which is the right lead. It doesn't matter, in the end, whether a small group keeps going after the right thing. What matters is that in the end, nobody be able to tell real from fake, and that the folks who take direct action are few enough and dehumanized enough to be dealt with by security, ideally as they tilt at a purpose-made windmill. Obfuscate enough and the targets start doing the decohering on their own with no further input from shill groups.

Personally, I think the real hits, the original ones before the obfuscation efforts, were Pizzagate and the CIA. That's my intuition derived from observations that aren't easily cited, so I don't expect you to believe me instantly. But right now it's easy to see how divided things are and how the country has well and truly decohered into Right and Left, with the moderates being subsumed into either faction, and with both factions following competing and mutually exclusive narratives. But two armed camps are still dangerous to the elite. They'll be looking for ways to divide us more.

Really well said.

Wait, wasn't some special-needs Caucasian male just supposedly tortured and the video spread wide via a social media site that normally blocks such videos because of the violent and unacceptable content?

Guess there's nothing to see here, gotta go watch that sci-fi movie idiocracy...

It was a livestream, they post ban content on facebook not actively watch your livefeeds for misconduct.

Aaaaand the guy calling out and shit talking because no explanation gets one and is now nowhere to be found. Thanks for snubbing this one and taking the time to flesh this explanation out. I pray you did it on a keyboard rather than mobile to save you some anguish spelling it out for the dense.

For the dense? Don't be absurd, he's not my only audience here ;)

But yeah I typed that on keyboard XD

Muddying the waters...

they're brackish as hell

Useful tool? She lost the election.

Only because the Russians hacked it.

😉

"uh oh, I don't have an answer for that, better just make a joke and hope no one notices"

She lost the election but the narrative was so strong that people though she was going to win.

CTR in the top comment about CTR...

META 😭

Evidence?

That was sarcasm.

TPTB wanted Hillary to win. Trump won because the dems alienated half their base when they stole the nomination from Bernie, Giving trump tons of voters.

CTR is not so much Hillary and her campaign but the powers behind Hillary spreading their influence.

This whole situation is sloppy plan B improvised disinformation propaganda from those in power who feel they may be losing control...

But that's just my opinion man

If the powers that be are so powerful, how did they let any of this happen.

They probably own trump too. Israel certainly does.

They have only as much power as the people are willing to believe or fear that they have. That's supported by a broad narrative that the corporate media constantly reinforces in some subtle and not so subtle ways.

It's that narrative and their control over it that Trump has made an end run around. He has created a competing and new narrative of his own to challenge and replace it and the harder and more extreme the PTB try to discredit him and it the more the support is actually beginning to rally behind Trump.

You don't throw out the light socket when the bulb blows. You find a new bulb.

It's kinda sad. The logic is right there in their face. r/politics, a sub with a pretty damn high level of traffic, exploded about 2-3 hours ago over a potential Trump conspiracy. In that thread -- a thread with literally 10s of thousands of comments and upvotes -- many references to the r/conspiracy sub were made, being that this sub is for, uhm, well, conspiracies. So why is it a surprise that several thousand individuals like myself, who have never been here before, then checked this sub after seeing it discussed in a massively active sub now on r/all?

For a sub that claims to be super thoughtful and logical... I'm not sure how they haven't pieced that together, and are instead assuming "nah bro it's Hillary Clinton's bot army" and shit.

There are still globalist agendas that stand to gain from controlling and manipulating public perception, in this case via reddit.

Globalist agendas... but not Russia clearly. More likely it's the Jews.

This is why you will fail here, all of you, you think we are ignorant and throw baseless racist claims at us and act like we could never consider russians might want to influence something aswell.

We are not partisan i'm afraid, please stop throwing generalisations and being a turd.

Shitstain. The term you were looking for is societal shitstain. Minimum wage to deteriorate societal discourse over serious topics... what a legacy their lives will become.

<3 I feel the love ;)

we are not partisan

Thanks... I needed a chuckle this morning.

See how anti-Clinton material is treated on this sub. See Pizzagate, the stupidest fucking thing I've heard in my life, being treated as gospel. And then look at this sub having a fucking aneurysm over some anti-Trump material being posted. How many 'we are being brigaded by ctr/bots/commies' posts are there on the front page right now? Do you remember that when a Pizzagate post reached the front page? Can you really tell me that with a straight face.

Sshh, let them keep fucking up. Makes it easier for us to weed em out

Agendas are more than elections, its public perception.

Are you ignorant that we live in the age of information warfare or is this new to you.

To control the narrative.

it's run by soros he has a lot of agenda besides the failed Hillary run

Hey look - an actual answer!

To discredit the new administration, and to distract from the ongoing FBI investigation into the previous administration.

In order to continue controlling the narrative. Their goal is to retain as much power as they can. Expect MORE with Hillary not elected, they'll run another jackass in 3 years (all the campaigning) and they need to maintain their presence.

They are not, "ctr" is just a phrase pro trump people use to shut down discussion.

Someone said something negative about trump? Don't listen to them "CTR".

They want this sub to be nothing but problems trump propaganda anything else is triggering to them.

http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-clinton-digital-trolling-20160506-snap-htmlstory.html

http://uk.businessinsider.com/russia-internet-trolls-and-donald-trump-2016-7

oops killed your own story;

"The very fact that we are discussing this and believing that Putin has the skill, inside knowledge, and wherewithal to field a candidate in an American presidential election and get him through the primaries to the nomination means we are imbuing him with the very power and importance he so craves," Ioffe wrote.

"All he wants is for America to see him as a worthy adversary. This week, we're giving that to him, and then some," she wrote.

"Russia's troll factories were, at one point, likely being paid by the Kremlin to spread pro-Trump propaganda on social media."

that doesnt confirm anything, prove anything and the statement frames itself as "likely" not "definitely"

Try again.

And yours confirms nothing

"Some experts on digital campaigns think the idea of launching a paid army of “former reporters, bloggers, public affairs specialists, designers” and others to produce online counterattacks is unlikely to prove successful. Others, however, say Clinton has little choice but to try, given the ubiquity of online assaults and the difficulty of squelching even provably untrue narratives once they have taken hold.

At the same time, however, using a super PAC to create a counterweight to movements that have sprung up organically is another reflection of the campaign’s awkwardness with engaging online, digital pros said.

“It is meant to appear to be coming organically from people and their social media networks in a groundswell of activism, when in fact it is highly paid and highly tactical,” said Brian Donahue, chief executive of the consulting firm Craft Media/Digital.

“That is what the Clinton campaign has always been about," he said. "It runs the risk of being exactly what their opponents accuse them of being: a campaign that appears to be populist but is a smokescreen that is paid and brought to you by lifetime political operatives and high-level consultants.”

The task force designed to stop the spread of online misinformation and misogyny is the brainchild of David Brock, a Clinton confidant who once made a career of spreading such misinformation and misogynistic attacks against her and Bill Clinton. His critics say he kept his taste for dirty tricks when he switched sides to become one of the Clintons’ most valued operatives.

The mere mention of Correct the Record makes some critics seethe. Super PACs are typically prohibited from working in tandem with candidates, but Correct the Record is doing just that by exploiting a loophole in campaign finance law that it says permits such coordination with digital campaigns.

“Clinton, herself, is saying we need campaign finance reform,” said Paul Ryan, deputy executive director of the Campaign Legal Center, an advocacy group. “Yet her lawyers are pushing the boundaries to get around campaign finance laws.”

Brock referred questions to Elizabeth Shappell, a spokesperson for the super PAC, who emailed a brief statement saying that Barrier Breakers, as the effort is labeled, "is only engaged in positive content, even when responding to offensive content, and is always identified" as Correct the Record, she wrote. The email also emphasized that Correct the Record is spending the million dollars in a way that it argues is legal under rules governing super PACs."

Try again.

In his research from St. Petersburg, Chen discovered that Russian internet trolls — paid by the Kremlin to spread false information on the internet — have been behind a number of "highly coordinated campaigns" to deceive the American public.

It's a brand of information warfare, known as "dezinformatsiya," that has been used by the Russians since at least the Cold War. The disinformation campaigns are only one "active measure" tool used by Russian intelligence to "sow discord among," and within, allies perceived hostile to Russia.

"An active measure is a time-honored KGB tactic for waging informational and psychological warfare,"

Try again

Yes i read that i know.

Your original post:

"They are not, "ctr" is just a phrase pro trump people use to shut down discussion. Someone said something negative about trump? Don't listen to them "CTR". They want this sub to be nothing but problems trump propaganda anything else is triggering to them."

What are you trying to say in your last post? that I have failed to prove you completely wrong?

Are you trying to say that because russia does x, CTR doesnt exist?? whats your argument here??? Maybe im pro trump!!

Oh wait im not even American - welp!

Russia's troll factories

That fact is no one present an evidence, a concrete evidence about the Russian claims. In the other hand, everyone has access to the list with name and address of every CTR employee, official lists.

I just provided you with evidence and a list of names and addresses proves what in relation to reddit ?

I own an address book, is that evidence of "CTR" ?

always read your own links

you guys never should have started CTR then legit users wouldn't be able to shut down your lies so easy

Because fight is just beginning.

This guy gets it.

David Brock gave an interview where he said the anti Trump crap he produces the more funding he gets from his "donors". He's doing this to stay relevant. This is all shill city.

Here's the why. CTR is owned by James Alefantis boyfriend. The guy that runs comet ping pong.

supposedly they broke up but CTR probably needs to keep denying pizzagate cuz alefantis has blackmail material on brock.

Because Australia probably? Member that Soros attempt to make voting in Australia all electronic? (I read some parliamentary submissions/smartmatic/NGO's suggesting to change the law to allow it, and apparently there's a Comet pizza here; could just be a coincidence of course, but really it seems to be not unplanned, especially when you consider Podesta as Sec of State)... The neolibs were giving massive donations to the Clinton foundation but stopped after she lost. Wonder why.. Also neolibs receive questionable donations themselves, although I really can't be bothered going through the weirdness, but damnit I will if they don't BTFO.

They were always here, in one form or another. They upped their game and many, many, more will throw their hat into the mix.

because those bots aren't just clintons personal army, they are the corporations behind her's personal army.

It's not CTR anymore, it's been repurposed, Now they defend obamas legacy, and defend basically anything that makes our current political establishment look bad.

It was fun guys

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I hate Trump, believe Pizzagate needs to be looked into, and wouldn't be surprised if Trump had prostitutes peed on Obama's hotel bed (even thought it is unverified).

But I really do hope everyone goes to that Trump/Russia thread and do what OP said here and Ctrl+f "pizza". It really is startling to see how MANY comments talk about pizzagate and how similar they are.

Definitely something going on in this sub. By the crazies on the right and the "left". Sigh.. I miss the old days of this sub.

I've noticed The theme is Partisan... Divide the sub into parts.

Search for partisan.

And the other theme is that this sub will involve themselves in something false like pizza gate while ignoring a real conspiracy like trump/Russia, and if you don't look into trump you are being partisan.

imo that's The underlying script of that thread. Deflect from pizza and divide the sub.

I've looked into them both and neither of them hold water for me. I can't stand how people will believe or deny anything depending on what party they're from.

The same thing happens in any thread about Bernie now, dozens of comments with the same verbiage about "his three houses"

I think they are setting an example. This is just like pizza gate seeing how it came out of the deep web. Except with a new spin, every media outlet is jumping on this story. It was even reported on my local station. This is the example, that our little crowd source investigation has limited power compared to major media outlets followed by the majority of Americans. The same outlets that are pushing this are the same that wouldn't touch the Podesta emails.

You guys still whining about the CTR myth?

http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-clinton-digital-trolling-20160506-snap-htmlstory.html

leave our sub

http://uk.businessinsider.com/russia-internet-trolls-and-donald-trump-2016-7

Leave our sub

Trump's own influence among high-level Russian figures may be overstated given the difficulty that he has had throughout his career in securing lucrative real-estate projects there.

You keep ignoring the fact pro trump posters were paid to post.

Leave our sub

This is not your sub. The fact that you're focusing on Russia alleged interference rather than proven American insider corruption proves it's not your sub.

rather than proven American insider corruption

You realise trump is an american and an insider and it's corruption to do with him.

LEAVE OUR SUB

Judging by his post history (he tried to pull rank via post history/account age elsewhere hence why I took a look), conspiracy was never his sub to begin with.

Regards from a 5 year account that posts regularly around here, among other parts of Reddit.

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The fact you called it a "myth" shows just how uninformed you are.

Yeah CTR were totally "active" on reddit while the_donald clogged up the front page for 6months via vote manipulation.

legit users then which now reddit censors

They're not winning. every tactic they've used failed. particularly that election bit.

Agreed.

Oh no it isn't wave after wave of shitty trump shills accusing people of pizza molesting! It must be CTR!

You really don't come here often do you? It's been ufo talk for over a week.

OP is right on the money, majority of the posts are saying that conspiracy is the_donald 2.0 and they argue that just because its shit evidence this is conspiracy so just like that pizzagate its true or your all in be with trump.

I think they want to drive away any non trump supporters by trying to label this place as t_d2.0. it's kind of ridiculous, stove people here are pro tromp but the sub is firmly neutral. People post about Republicans all the time, we just don't post the msm nonsense about trump

I find it strange that a good chunk of the content in /r/conspiracy, /r/The_Donald, and /r/HillaryForPrison comes from users like yourself who have been here for less than a year. Furthermore, a lot of those young accounts that post in those subs are not very balanced (much less than you're account). In fact, most of them focus almost entirely on anti-Clinton, anti-Democrat, anti-left politics - something I had never seen on this site (on this scale) until last year. But somehow, "CTR" is supposed to be the prevailing force that drives reddit's content.

I supported Bernie.

Get fucked.

Me too, buddy. All I'm saying is that there are a lot "anti-CTR" accounts that are super young and spam anti-Clinton shit. I tried to make it clear that I wasn't specifically calling you out, since you've posted comments and posts in a variety of subs. I thought maybe you would see the flaws in your reasoning, but you got defensive and acted like an asshole. Still, you should check out some of the accounts in those subs I mentioned, because I've seen quite a few young ones that spam bullshit posts and comments like yours.

BTW, I did ctrl + f "pizza" in that thread and scrolled through the 24 mentions that were available on the first page. You know what I saw? A majority of the accounts posting about pizza have been active for years. Those that are younger have been active in numerous subreddits. Maybe you forgot where you are, but here on reddit, you'll see the same joke told 100 different ways. Yes, there are a handful of users who don't hang out in this retarded circlejerk of a subreddit that are smart enough to see that pizza gate is bullshit. That doesn't mean there are bots or paid shills brigading this sub.

You know you can buy accounts right?

Yeah, and I don't think any of those have been bought. They're all diverse posters/commenters. Why would CTR remain active at this point? What do they have to gain that makes it worth the money? It doesn't make any sense. Besides, don't you think that it's much more likely that a few random people are just making similar jokes about something that is really easy to make fun of?

Why manipulate the media? To push an agenda.

throwaways, we'll be banned from the real communities we take part in, if people find out we're pro trump. and will be endlessly harassed

There is no ctr lol. 95% of reddit dislikes trump.

Nice statistic. Where's it from, your ass?

I could buy them not liking trump but not that they like Hillary, no one but bots or shills like her

Mods

can you we please get an unverified allegation tag on this

don't do it mods

RIP /r/conspiracy you will be missed.

I'll check back to see if you've banned the obvious CTR now and then.

Goodbye for now.

its both CTR and the Donald that are brigading , lets be honest hear .

Yeah I was really taken aback looking at the comments and votes on the fake trump report. So many shills brigaded here

Probably a stupid question. But what exactly does CTR stand for?

Correct The Record

Edit: Also, be wary of all gilded comments. They use the gilding system to promote their agendas.

How does gilding help other than putting a little coin next to the post?

it gives the illusion that it is somehow a good comment.

I also believe that they guild comments that they want upvoted.

It makes the post look more credible. Not exactly complicated. People see that gold coin and they think the post is more likely to be genuine.

So a gilded post, doesn't show up closer to the top or something?

I don't think so, but you can filter to only show gilded posts.

Why are SJW neoliberals so vehemently opposed to opening an investigation?

Afraid that some politicians name might get a smudge next to it versus investigating the largest child sexploitation ring in recorded human history(allegely)

Doesn't make sense, i know skeptics of pizzagate but i don't know a single person who is not okay with a investigation to get to the truth.

And when put in context of church sex scandals, people will be more suspectible to believing that the super profitable Child Trafficking might be involved with a $1,500,000,000.00 HRC Loss

You are right on the money OP. That shit is plainly obvious. Its astounding really. This is all hurting them or they wouldn't be bothering.

How does one become a paid shill? Seems like a common occupation of the future.

They actually briefly discuss the shills in the Podesta emails.

Which one do they do that in?

https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/141

What am I looking for? None of them are "nearly identical" or even close. They all mock pizzagate because, well, that's low hanging fruit at this point.

They aren't even trying anymore

10:01 am on 1/11/17 - 4.68k users online, bullshiiiiiiit

for record keeping purposes

Much of this stared around the same time as the discovery of Pegasus. Also just before the inauguration. One of the two has hit a nerve. It almost feels like CTR is trying to precondition peeps befor something big breaks.

In order... to... get Hillary... elected?

Spell it out for us man.

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This is why you will fail here, all of you, you think we are ignorant and throw baseless racist claims at us and act like we could never consider russians might want to influence something aswell.

We are not partisan i'm afraid, please stop throwing generalisations and being a turd.

http://uk.businessinsider.com/russia-internet-trolls-and-donald-trump-2016-7

Leave our sub

She lost the election but the narrative was so strong that people though she was going to win.

So a gilded post, doesn't show up closer to the top or something?