Pizzagate: Unbelievable Evidence

272  2017-01-12 by johnbarrismydaddy

** From /u/sheasie **

Thanks for the post. I actually just pulled together a collection of #PizzaGate links:

http://pizzagate.wiki

• #Pizzagate - Girl screaming for help inside of Comet Ping Pong

• Proof That It's Alefantis Making Threats (Facebook Screen capture)

• Pizzagate - 20 archived threads and Mega archive

• Before he made his instagram, account private, here is a screenshot of James Alefanti's "#murder" and #killroom"

• Child abductions are common

• Welcome to Pizzagate: Fully sourced, simply organized, summary and history of main findings (12/6)

Fully Sourced Excellent Summary of Pizzagate Evidence

NOTE: There isn't a small, handheld smoking gun, that I have seen. Much like 9/11, it's more of a smoking nuke. The mountain of circumstantial evidence is literally "unbelievable".

Special props to:

• David Seaman

• Ryan O'Niel

/knowledge is power

162 comments

i like and trust david seaman. in fact probably the only journalist i do trust. not sure about ryan o'neil. i dont like the idea of people making money off this.

Ryan has offered to give the tshirts away and his website away to anyone that would want it.

He also offered to give the remaining tshirts away

Where can I get one?

Buy a blank T Shirt and print pizzagate.wiki on it,ultimate Red pill.

I wanted a free one.

i mean the shirts are a good idea as far as getting the name out there and making sure people know that it wasnt just fake news, he should just donate profit to chairty or something if hes going to do it

seaman is a shill and hasn't done shit for any of the actual research, he's a non-content, video spammer, talking head, trump supporting, cointelpro, proven liar shill,

Do not agree. He has put up with harassment of all kinds, stands up for the truth and continues to put the info out for people to better understand what's going on.

no he doesn't, he has nothing but opinions and all that youtube and paypal shit is fake as fuck to help establish his less than one year of content and only like 2 months of anything that might be considered actual "conspiracy", he got hired by pro-trump think tanks after he got fired from huffington post, but you must be an infowars tool too so whatever, you're used to being shuffled along

Thanks for the info, I still think he's a good guy tho.

I gave him a chance, but all his videos are old news and he doesn't offer any information in a clean or unbiased way.

He may be a good guy, but I don't see the value in his reporting so long after evidence is uncovered and circulated.

Ryan O'Neal

an instagram photo of a room, a youtube vid from accross the street and a stat about child kidnapping, yes circumstantial it is lol.

But the evidence is piling up! It's only a matter of time before Killary and her evil Soroside-Squad henchmen are behind bars. Then all that's left is for me is to tour the country as literally Batman, signing autographs for all of my late-nights upvoting these stories on the internet.

Or? You could tour the country as Jeffery Epstein and you side kick could be Slick willy...Hows that sound!

Why not tour with the whole Epstein cadre? Bill Clinton, Donald Trump, Alan Dershowitz, Ghislaine Maxwell, Courtney Love....it'd be one helluva party!

Yeah and James Alefantis as- "the pizza delivery guy".....

Ok now this is really starting to sound like a porn plot.

This is not a joke to me...

Sorry, can't help but think you must be a little bit kidding when you conflate Pizzagate with the Lolita Express.

I was thinking, Black Dahlia.

Good god is so refreshing to see some rational people in this sub who don't believe this bullshit.

downvoted to heck apparently, so blinded by this imaginary pedophile witch hunt

I guess we're just not woke enough to get it. We're just sheeple, man.

Just yesterday someone discovered that they bought the Pegasus building from a couple with close ties to the Moonie cult. And that will tie this to the huge Protests recently in South Korea. This investigation is like putting together a 3D puzzle and every time you get a piece together the most satisfying 'ding' from the heavens rings upon the Earth.

How is Choi Soon-sil/Church of Eternal Life connected to Unification Church/Sun Myung Moon/Moonies other than being weird culty Koreans?

Birds of a feather?

So, presumed guilt by association of something entirely different.

Note to all : law enforcement officials know circumstancial evidence is the hardest to forge. A smoking gun can easily be planted. When a myriad of secondary indications are found however, the suspicions are considered substantiated.

Pizzagate investigators have already collected far sufficient circumstantial evidence for raids to be ordered and a smoking gun to be uncovered.

Pizzagate investigators have already collected far sufficient circumstantial evidence for raids to be ordered and a smoking gun to be seeked.

Really? Do you have a law degree? Have you passed the bar in the District of Columbia or any surrounding area? Have you practiced criminal law? Have you ever worked in a prosecutors office?

What experience do you base that assertion on other than your personal wish that it be so?

I am the US Attorney General for the US government in exile. Our offices and representatives are all over the Internet.

I am the US Attorney General for the US government in exile.

The US Government in exile? Do you plan a Coup? lol

Anyway, your credentials? Where did you go to law school? Where have you passed the bar?

sought

corrected. thank you :)

What evidence have you uncovered?

They have close connections to the Clinton Foundation.

The literal translation of apocalypse is cosmic disclosure...

metaphorical! What is with y'all and the word "literal?"

Apocalypse means "revelation", literally.

the Unveiling!

Better!

They didn't buy it from what I saw. Alefantis inhereted it.

Linky?

I new they were connected. Glad to see evidence finally coming to light.

we stand among the Elect......

Nope. Circumstantial at best, youd have to drink a lot of bleach before a publicly posted joke seems like evidence.

Screaming girl from somewhere on the city street, and it wasnt actually real enough for the video author to check up on.

In your mind, due to bias and heavy investment this is a smoking gun. Its not, there is still zero real evidence.

Its just a 4chan hoax.

Why are you so invested in hating on a conspiracy, IN A CONSPIRACY SUB?

Because there are other, way more important conspiracies to tackle, not this grasping at straws bullshit.

Like flat Earth?

So your saying Child/Human trafficking is a hoax ? Interesting? I suppose the Clinton Foundation is a 4chan hoax also?

"claims that a bullshit conspiracy about a pizza place being a secret pedophile den in broad daylight is bullshit" so you are claiming that theres no such thing as child/human trafficking?

Fuck that was QUICK? Are you worried about something? Because that's exactly what this is about. Also could you tell me what your office looks like? Also again, everything i said is directly related to what you dismissed as a hoax..

what was quick i wasnt even this comment thread beforehand , also you are literally making no sense are you trying to accuse me of being a paid troll for calling out your bullshit? because thats hilarious

No. There is plenty of evidence in the form of convictions for varying examples of human and child trafficking. But that doesn't prove citizen allegations behind pizzagate. Unrelated examples are not confirmation.

Its just a 4chan hoax.

? Wait this is what you have to say...

anything the Mexican cartels are doing...Uncle Sam is doing the deluxe version.

Honestly, all I needed was when the alarms went off for me as soon as I saw the art these guys collect.

If you think 'artwork' of children hanging from a wall, or on a table, while people stand around it, is "art" then you have some questionable interests. Does that mean you are a pedo? No, but you sure as fuck are going to be scrutinized.

Everything we do is a reflection of our personality and if you are attracted (in any form) to dark, twisted "art" of children, that's all I need to know to know something shady is lurking.

If you think 'artwork' of children hanging from a wall, or on a table, while people stand around it, is "art" then you have some questionable interests.

There is no evidence that any of the accused have the paintings you describe. Just another Pizzagate fabrication:

https://np.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/5k6jre/man_dies_suddenly_after_contacting_2008_accuser/dbm6wxy/

Na mate, it's real and it's starting to stink. I'd advise you to get your head out off your own arse and realize the bubble world you live in, is not what it is....

Dude, even "garden" and "deathpool" or whatever are creepy as shit, come on...!

Moving the goal-post. Even if you think it's creepy, it does not support the idea that they are child molesters.

Moving the goal-post.

Great observation! This is exactly what PG-deniers do. This shit is fucked up.

The biggest stretch that I can make is that the artist who made this isn't necesarilly a pedo. Could be a victim, or someone with that fucked up an imagination. But to enjoy it... to collect it... i'm sorry, something is very very wrong there.

Freedom of expression.

I love death metal like slayer, cannibal corpse etc

Does that mean I am a necrophiliac pedophile as mentioned in their songs?

Fuck no, I just like the bleakness of that art.

Cool. I love Celtic Frost and Mercyful Fate. There's a big difference between music and that fucked up art are they have. Cannibal Corpse and Slayer are clearly fantastical exaggerations. The lyrical content is secondary to the music. if you're a fan of "heavy breathing", though... well, i guess eveyone has their preferences...

You can't see the flaw in your logic here?

The arch back sculpture podesta has is a popular art piece going back centuries to renaissance artists and is called the arch of hysteria, it can be found in museums and art lovers homes around the world.

Are all of those people and museums "sickos" or indeed pedophiles because of it?

Just out of curiosity where do you draw the line on someone's taste in art? Lolita, a story of underage sex, sits in libraries and homes around the world. The mere existence of art that makes you uncomfortable doesn't equate to consumers of that art being sick, deficient or deviant.

You so easily dismiss slayer and cannibal corpse, yet you can't understand how people like me can equally dismiss your assertion that this art is "wrong" in and of itself?

Mental gymnastics of an Olympic grade.

Celtic frost are cool, they're no Sun(((o))) though.

It's not just the arch piece. Its also the art showing children literally getting abused and tortured. None of the stuff you mentioned is anywhere close to the stuff they're looking at. Lolita is about a teenager who has a consensual relationship with an older man.

So sex with teenagers is acceptable?

I simply don't agree with your assertion that owning some pieces of art that display children or indeed adults in some pose of apparent "impropriety" (as you define it) is a sign of deviant sexual predation on children. And you have done nothing to bolster your point.

It means that you are confused about quality of entertainment. Slayer?? I had hoped their last fan had given up.

I appreciate your unbiased view on the subject. That's what this sub is about. We all don't have to agree.

Exactly this,some site near Bohemian grove also had ping pong tables,and the ambassador who shared a picture of her with signs similar to that in the comet ping pong store.

I have a ping pong table.

Madness.

Hahahaahah of course a decent, sourced comment is silenced on this sub because it represents another view while speculatory bullshit is upvoted. Jesus fuck.

I'm used to it.

But thanks for noticing :)

I wholeheartedly agree, and I make art... every piece you make and everything you enjoy is some sort of internal reflection of you.

For the people who create it, it is their expression. And the people who collect it, they're like "yeah, yeah I feel that". Similar to the way a certain song just hits you the right way.

So we have these deranged motherfuckers creating this disturbing art and people who are on that same wavelength gravitate toward it.

It was also the first thing that prompted me to say (in my gut) something ain't right here.

Only difference being that the creators of this art have often turned out to be victims of ritual child abuse themselves. The artist with the more stick-figure-like paintings of abuse for example, although can't remember her name now.

Kim Noble.

That's her. Thank you.

You are indeed welcome.

Going through it does NOT mean you should continue to represent it in public artwork. That's like continuing to abuse because you were abused.

This kind of stuff should not be represented in public art because to do so is implicitly giving credence to it, whether the artist intends that or not.

Yes... The artist who made the pieces suffered child abuse herself so she expresses it in her pieces.

You folks are worse than the morality police in the 90s that got parental advisory stickers put on cds.

I like cannibal corpse, does that mean I want to fuck dead children as they reference in their lyrics?

Bull. Shit.

It is really bizarre to see people younger than me acting as morality police. These are probably people who think the internet should be free, open, and anonymous.

And the same kids are judging a sculpture or painting from a world they know nothing of, calling it satanic - yet will sit for hours casting spells and role playing as demons in computer games without a hint of irony.

They are just parroting what they are told so they will continue to fit in with their "tribe."

If you think 'artwork' of children hanging from a wall, or on a table, while people stand around it, is "art" then you have some questionable interests. Does that mean you are a pedo? No, but you sure as fuck are going to be scrutinized.

Thsi sub is the last place I would expect people to infringe on freedom of speech so quickly. You're advocating investigation of thought crime and infringing on freedom of speech.

Should we set up a commission to decide what art is acceptable, so that the owner wouldn't be "scrutinized"?

Can you imagine the freakout from redditors if police started investigating folks for possessing or watching anime with sexualized depictions of under-18 girls?

I'd freak the fuck out and say the only animes I watched was One Punch Man and JoJo

All will be blamed on the Russians soon.

They already made the setup with the announcement about russian hackers putting pedo porn on remote computers to set people up.

https://www.justice.gov/usao-wdnc/pr/during-national-slavery-and-human-trafficking-prevention-month-us-attorneys-office

During National Slavery And Human Trafficking Prevention Month, U.S. Attorney's Office Highlights District's Efforts To Combat Human Trafficking And Raise Awareness With Community Outreach, Training And Federal Prosecutions

The mountain of circumstantial evidence is literally "unbelievable".

A mountain of circumstantial evidence doesn't amount to a hill of shit. That's why it's called circumstantial.

It's not even circumstantial evidence. Circumstantial evidence can be fingerprints, blood at Comet Ping Pong, murder weapons, etc.

Pizzagate is nothing more than accusations based on imagined innuendo. They don't even have evidence that the "code words" were used before PG. Literally, not even circumstantial evidence.

Yes it is, blood would be physical evidence.

It can be both.

Blood in your car doesn't mean you committed a crime. But we can make an inference from it.

Pizza has been a code word for child porn for a while, the pedophile symbols are listed on the FBI's website, the instagram photos are more than simple innuendo. Who are those children in the photos?

Pizza has been a code word for child porn for a while

No it hasn't "cheese pizza" has been used on 4chan to skirt/mock their CP posting rules, but none of the other words, including cheese and pizza individually have been used before.

the pedophile symbols are listed on the FBI's website

Eh... That's not what I asked. Comet Ping Pong doesn't even have those symbols. You'd have to fabricate another theory about some other business just to make this make sense.

the instagram photos are more than simple innuendo.

Bullshit. There isn't a single sexually suggestive photo regarding children in his IG.

Who are those children in the photos?

A few of the photos he posted over the course of few years was his god-daughter. Her name is actually posted on most of those photos. I'm not going to post it here so more people can invade her family's privacy, but it's pretty easy to look up. What other "children" is he posting on a regular basis?

dead ones......fed to pigs-RIP.

Yes how could I forget? Investigate that damn pig farm.

Ahem

Circumstantial evidence is generally admissible in court unless the connection between the fact and the inference is too weak to be of help in deciding the case. Many convictions for various crimes have rested largely on circumstantial evidence.

unless the connection between the fact and the inference is too weak to be of help in deciding the case

Just like Pizzagate.

That's just like, your opinion, man.

"Beyond a Reasonable Doubt"

That's for a jury to decide.

A prosecutor must first have a case to make. A testifying victim helps.

If a case is brought to court, they might just find some. We don't know yet.

How will this case be brought to criminal court without a prosecutor having an actual victim?

You want to file a civil claim? Then go ahead and hire a lawyer. Good luck with that.

You said witness, not victim.

Who is this witness? Who speaks on the record to having witnessed what?

Once again, one could come forward if it were brought trial. A witness doesn't have to be a victim.

Dude, you can't just "bring to trial" without even a witness. There's absolutely nothing actionable in the menagerie of conflicting claims and insinuation that's been publicized so far. A prosecutor couldn't open a case with this stuff even if they wanted to.

This stuff wouldn't even amount to indicting a ham and cheese sandwich. And as we all know, grand juries often indict those right before lunch.

That's just like, you opinion, man. Stuff is still being dug up. Only time will tell. It's looking fishy as fuck though.

I wonder what it would have taken for a jury to indict Jimmy Saville...

A witness speaking on the record would have helped. Or a victim willing to speak.

Fuck, too bad he had the right connections and got rid of those kids' bodies...

I don't want to be in a position where I'm defending Saville, but who alleges he murdered kids? I've looked into media reports on the case and I've never seen allegations of child murder. Just pedophilia.

IIRC he was connected to the dissapearances of boys from the orphanages or boys homes or whatever it was he ran.

IRC he was connected to the dissapearances of boys from the orphanages or boys homes or whatever it was he ran.

Look, Saville was a creep. And I wish he'd been caught while alive so he could have been charged and convicted and - most especially - questioned by authorities. But you got to cite that shit if you want to make that case.

The internet is your friend. This isnt a depisition.

The internet is your friend. This isnt a depisition.

That's a terrible response. You make a claim, then refuse to defend it.

Again, bodies.

those are fed to pigs.....

Yes, let's not forget that suspicious pig farm.

Bodies are victims. Investigate Pegasus and bodies/DNA will be found.

Really? Do you know specifically where those bodies might be found? Are you a witness to there being bodies at that location? Or is this merely a belief you have based on a presumption of guilt? Or do you have probable cause such that a judge would be willing to sign a search warrant?

Probable cause for investigation is the mountain of evidence as collected on the banned sub that moved to voat much of which will turn up here.

https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1497611

You must have missed that In your intrepid rush to justice, defending these pedophiles. Your face must be red! That's okay.

Probable cause for investigation is the mountain of evidence as collected on the banned sub that moved to voat much of which will turn up here.

I saw that stuff.

Now I'm not a prosecutor. Nor a lawyer. And I've never opened a grand jury investigation. But I don't believe the material collected and presented at 4chan, Reddit, and Voat amount to anything viable for a grand jury investigation, much less for a prosecutor to open a case.

Perhaps we could question a criminal attorney. Is there a criminal attorney here willing to state the materials they've seen presented amount to actionable evidence worthy of probable cause for a judge to sign a search warrant?

Anyone? And if so, would you be willing to state specifically what evidence crosses the threshold in support of a search warrant?

Ever heard of hearsay?

Anyone have a mirror to the facebook screenshot?

It was a video of a manipulated Facebook chat made to look like something it isn't. That's why the profiteer Pizzagate t-shirt maker has pulled it ...

Right he manipulated it on not his iPhone and on his computer? The computer part would be easy but the iPhone? Oh and he filed a police report, and we found the report and it's certainly weird for someone to go through so much effort when he hardly sold any tshirts and made a loss on them. The tshirt thing was so stupid, clearly no one wants to walk around in a Pizzagate tshirt.

The computer part would be easy but the iPhone?

You've never seen a manipulated image of an iPhone chat before? Videos also showed a Facebook chat on a desktop, easily manipulated with Inspect Element. After he got called out on it, he pulled it.

Oh and he filed a police report, and we found the report and it's certainly weird for someone to go through so much effort when he hardly sold any tshirts and made a loss on them.

Is this is your evidence for a police report?

https://gitlab.com/ausbitbank/pizzagate/blob/master/pizzagategear-alefantis-death-threat/police-report.jpg

Still the question stands, if he did it to profiteer why did he take the website down? He's even offering to give the domain away to a Voat user to make better use of it.

Here's the official police report straight from Galveston Police: http://p2c.websterpd.com/viewreport.aspx?id=636197907355193602

Still the question stands, if he did it to profiteer why did he take the website down?

Because people started seeing through his lies so he knew the jig was up?

Here's the official police report straight from Galveston Police: http://p2c.websterpd.com/viewreport.aspx?id=636197907355193602

Interesting, thanks. Filing a false police report is definitely a serious crime, so I guess we'll have to see if anything comes of it.

It takes very little effort.

Eg how to fake Facebook

https://youtu.be/osyhtJTg9eE

And an iPhone screenshot of the call screen is not going to take more than 5 minutes to doctor.

And they guy was making ad revenue and selling t-shirts with a big smile on his face, AT THE END OF THE VIDEO HE CLAIMED HE WAS SCARED FOR HIS LIFE.

He made a police report, and FBI is investigating the threat.

No he didn't. He said he did, there is no evidence he actually did anything.

F.B.I. Investigating Threats Made Against PizzaGate Researcher https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1554053

So we're to take the word of a YouTube user as an official source that the FBI are investigating?

Is there an actual source like a .gov domain with the police report on it?

There is a police case ID card in his video,

He made a proof video at youtube, Alefantis block the video by copyright claim, video should be available at other sites, dig out yourself.

There's no evidence it was JA who filed that copyright claim. Anyone can create a YouTube account and file a copyright claim.

At the end of the day your evidence is a guy holding a bit of paper on a now removed YouTube video.

If there were a real investigation by authorities it should be easy to link to official documents indicating such.

I have no choice but to believe you are lying to bolster your own pizza views.

Are you kidding me,

FBI public every case under investigating at some .org domain? Where? enlighten me pls.

Anyone can claim copy right at YouTube?

I provide some evidences, you have exactly nothing backup your claim.

You haven't provided evidence, you provided a broken YouTube link in which a random person claims to have filed report.

That isn't evidence.

I read your links which are regurgitations of the YouTube video, however they provide the case number!

https://sli.mg/tfmmJz

Galveston, 17-000111

Now going to the public records of Galveston County we can search for the case number

http://publicaccess.co.galveston.tx.us/Search.aspx?ID=300&NodeID=100%2c110%2c120%2c130%2c140%2c200%2c210%2c220%2c230%2c240%2c250%2c260%2c270%2c280%2c290%2c299%2c310%2c320%2c330%2c340&NodeDesc=Galveston+County

0 results.

No case number exist, indeed the format 17-000111 isn't standard, they tend to use alpha and numeric characters eg

17-CR-0005 and so on.

So again I ask you, where is the evidence a police report has been filed?

There isn't any.

29% downvoted, ctr shills are sick indeed.

8 day old account, nice work comrade.

You are right... I don't believe it.

Honestly now, did you review the executive summary on voat and all related photos?

Yes

Lol ok dude

Read the wikileaks, witnessed the bs dnc primary, and watched/watching the pathetic paper thin lies/fakenews from the establishment media. and im not the only one.

all corroborating evidence is exposing a truth. pizzagate isn't going anywhere.

Can we stop using that Youtube video of "a girl screaming help inside Comet Ping Pong" as evidence? Because it's purely confirmation bias. You can see the family and little kid(s) walking by across the street and match the sounds to them. I'm all for exposing this conspiracy but that video is not evidence of anything other than kids get excited when seeing a ping pong game being played on the street.

I have not seen one good solid piece of evidence of a crime.

metaphorically unbelievable. Ftfy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCTzFNrsKns&list=PLcgk8FfGnzkxDSYW-3gqzNBVxJVE2a9Hh&index=1

Is George Webb a common part of the discussion around here? He seems to make a lot of solid connections but I'm not familiar enough with his process, whether he provides sources as he goes etc.

The video of Alefantis making threats has been removed :/ anyone got a mirror?

I have a link, hope it stays... https://youtu.be/EZQxYQ49p0U

Thank you!

as a baby boomer i thought i'd go to my grave without seeing this.....

Anyone notice that the photo is of a walk in refrigerator? Pretty standard piece of equipment for a pizza place.

There is no walk in fridge at the pizza place. Many of the associated construction pictures have been linked to the Museum. Walk in refrigerators are not a standard piece of equipment for a museum.

Well, th

There is no walk in fridge at the pizza place.

video

the second link has been removed ty to a claim by James A. Alefantis.

I think this was the video https://youtu.be/EZQxYQ49p0U

hmmm... i have so much words to say , but... Hillary and Trump are the same... both are Satanist , and maybe like childrens... just this is what i tink, can it be wrong or true, idk its us just my opinion.

Ok now this is really starting to sound like a porn plot.

No he didn't. He said he did, there is no evidence he actually did anything.

You can't see the flaw in your logic here?

The arch back sculpture podesta has is a popular art piece going back centuries to renaissance artists and is called the arch of hysteria, it can be found in museums and art lovers homes around the world.

Are all of those people and museums "sickos" or indeed pedophiles because of it?

Just out of curiosity where do you draw the line on someone's taste in art? Lolita, a story of underage sex, sits in libraries and homes around the world. The mere existence of art that makes you uncomfortable doesn't equate to consumers of that art being sick, deficient or deviant.

You so easily dismiss slayer and cannibal corpse, yet you can't understand how people like me can equally dismiss your assertion that this art is "wrong" in and of itself?

Mental gymnastics of an Olympic grade.

Celtic frost are cool, they're no Sun(((o))) though.

F.B.I. Investigating Threats Made Against PizzaGate Researcher https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1554053

Can you imagine the freakout from redditors if police started investigating folks for possessing or watching anime with sexualized depictions of under-18 girls?

Are you kidding me,

FBI public every case under investigating at some .org domain? Where? enlighten me pls.

Anyone can claim copy right at YouTube?

I provide some evidences, you have exactly nothing backup your claim.

Thank you!

And the same kids are judging a sculpture or painting from a world they know nothing of, calling it satanic - yet will sit for hours casting spells and role playing as demons in computer games without a hint of irony.

as a baby boomer i thought i'd go to my grave without seeing this.....