There was no vote manipulaton. This sub was mentioned in multiple front page posts before that post itself hit the front page. It's also one of if not the biggest conspiracies in recent times.
I saw with my own eyes what happened. It got 300 upvotes in 1 hour. And it kept getting 1000 upvotes every 10 minutes. That NEVER happens for ANYTHING in this sub. And now you want us to believe that an Anti-Trump Russian thread got upvoted naturally on /r/conspiracy? Sure, Jan!
The DNI just came out and did damage control and said the documents arent from an intelligence agency, in order to protect the intelligence agencies from this
Even NBC is hitting CNN and Buzzfeed over this. Theyre getting thrown under the bus hard for this.
They shilled this story so hard but it just blew up in thier face lmao
The entire story is bullshit and now the rest of the media and intelligence community are trying to keep this from blowing up in their face and ruining their reputations by throwing Buzzfeed under the bus
The entire story is bullshit and now the rest of the media and intelligence community are trying to keep this from blowing up in their face and ruining their reputations by throwing Buzzfeed under the bus
There's really nothing in there that states any of these claims in the dossier are bullshit. The media is pissed that buzzfeed went ahead with the dossier release before it was completely vetted. Clapper didn't deny any claims. Chuck Todd did, but so what?
So, is Clapper the good guy here all of the sudden even tho he never denied the claims. What a fucking weird 180.
So, are you not gonna do anything about this guy? I'm trying to provide you evidence of manipulation going on here.
I thought the rule was to prevent people from responding to arguments with the "youre a shill line" to try and keep civility, not stop people from sharing actual evidence that there are legitimate shills.
It's like you haven't read this thread and don't understand what we're arguing about or something, what? He said it was Intel agencies, which it wasnt. I asked for sources it's been falling apart, none given.
I've been following this since buzzfeeds brigade yesterday brainiac. I am aware that the rumor circulated around whatever the cam job of the report was about a retired mi6 agent who leaked it.
I just tossed in the allegedly because not only has nothing been verified or sourced, but also whatever gas was powering this brigade has burnt itself up so the likelihood of actually verifying it went with it.
I've seen this in every thread about it today. That's not true. It hit /r/all and a bunch of people spammed new threads into /r/conspiracy about "vote brigading" to save face because they were being ousted.
I was there too. It was on /r/all because it was an actual conspiracy. It's happened before. Trump's people did it tonight with the front page once again.
you guys hate that this sub has become pro-trump, so you do what you always do, try to oust the mods so you can get one of your own in there and control the sub.
I was drawing attention to the similarities in the karma of you and your three cookie cutter comment buddies. It was very funny for me to see three guys all circle jerking with the very same talking points constantly repeated CTR-style, all with 1 post karma and a dusting of comment karma. Seriously, EVERYONE that says "I came here to learn about this amazing true conspiracy" also only came to do so in a brand new throwaway account or with some hokey story about how they've been here for years but never said anything... The consistency of the amazing alignment of talking points, why they're here, and why they have virgin accounts... It's a very entertaining pattern.
These dossiers first appeared in June of 2016 and the media made note of this. October is entirely too late.
And, even if you believe your timeline, the plan Putin used was to create Plausible Deniability by planting seeds on the internet and among contacts to sow exactly this kind of disagreement.
It is plain as day and the facts are the facts. Putin spread deeper seeds (possibly the 4chan posts) so he could use them later to create this exact sort of disagreement.
How do you have such confidence? Truly astounding that you know you're right and I'm wrong. I'm not even making any claims other than what you posted was wrong. There is no doubt in my mind that every state is using disinformation and planting stories on the internet. That doesn't mean a dossier littered with spelling errors and recently discredited by MSNBC and NBC tonight is correct.
"President-elect Donald Trump was not told about unverified reports that Russia has compromising information on him during last week's intelligence briefing, according to a senior intelligence official with knowledge of preparations for the briefing. "
"The document, which was not prepared by the U.S. government, contains obvious errors. It was originally generated as part of opposition research by anti-Trump Republicans and then shopped by Democrats."
"According to the senior official, the two-page summary about the unsubstantiated material made available to the briefers was to provide context, should they need it, to draw the distinction for Trump between analyzed intelligence and unvetted "disinformation." "
NBC is the parent company of BuzzFeed, so this story is essentialy garbage
So an unsourced "intelligence" report posted by BuzzFeed has more credibility than NBC (their parent company) with a credible senior intelligence source. Alright....
Not saying you're CTR or unwilling to read, but it's one of the two.
According to the senior official, the two-page summary about the unsubstantiated material made available to the briefers was to provide context, should they need it, to draw the distinction for Trump between analyzed intelligence and unvetted "disinformation.
I am not going to explain why sourcing disinformation examples as real is wrong. He was briefed on it verbally as an example, as said in the article.
Just watch the video if you care at all about the truth. He admits the intel agencies briefed him on it. And then he accuses them of undermining his presidency by releasing the dossier. Which they did not do.
It is all right there on the video. No need to take my word. Go watch Trump say so.
You are a fast reader...reading the source I posted in less than 4 minutes and concluding it is not a source for discrediting the dossier...you seem to have a clear agenda.
From the link I posted (NBC):
"Intel and law enforcement officials agree that none of the investigations have found any conclusive or direct link between Trump and the Russian government period," the senior official said.
According to the senior official, the two-page summary about the unsubstantiated material made available to the briefers was to provide context, should they need it, to draw the distinction for Trump between analyzed intelligence and unvetted "disinformation."
There is literally no evidence of that. There were no details in that post we can use to verify it, just a vague post that says fan fiction was sent to someone (who isn't even involved in releasing this).
A mod posted that actually but edited their post when they were called out on it.
There was no vote manipulation. It is one of the biggest conspiracies in recent times and it was mentioned in multiple front page posts before it made it there.
Wasn't brigaded, stop spreading misinformation. If a few errors are enough to delete something then lime 80% of posts here would be deleted but they're not.
The Buzzfeed thread was also linked to in /r/politics, which caused users from that subreddit to flood in and attack /r/conspiracy (violating Rule 10).
Yeah when shit hits the top of reddit other people are going to pour in, no reason to delete it just because it doesn't fit into your little echo chamber anymore.
It was mentioned quite early on the politics thread. And wasn't it deleted for being a hoax? The moderators have am obvious bias, they were spreading that hoax shit before they even looked into it.
I think I did but I'll go back and make sure, but I'm asking because I don't think this comment made a personal attack or accusation of being called a shill.
Good thing they has a link to the actual documents, and there has been no proof of vote brigading just a bunch of people who don't understand how reddit works.
I read the article and it said the claims were unsubstantiated. I took that to mean they were unable to confirm them.
It also looks like the story had been floating around for months and without being able to substantiate the claims nobody had published it before now.
I also understand that the president and president elect had only recently been briefed on the claims. No idea if it was that briefing that triggered the publishing or not.
It is sad that there is not a post here even looking in to any of the stuff from that document. Trying to prove or disprove any of it. This sub is just a hivemind for t_d now.
This place is full of operatives and useful idiots and rubes now. I get the operatives motives, but the useful tools are just freaking sad. This place is just freaking sad now. :(
Me, too. If it's any consolation, talking about the stuff we want to talk about is probably more dangerous now than we'd realize. But man, it was fun actually talking about conspiracies and theories.
Yeah. And hell, flat earth stuff would be gold compared to the sad knob-slobbering. reality-denying sycophantism we're seeing now. And batshit crazy is actually fun a lot of the time, makes you think outside the box. I've a softspot for Vigilant Citizen-type stuff. But dare mention a certain someone's occult handsigns and prepare for psycho "kill yourself" PMs.
It's interesting from an observational standpoint though no? Just take a step back and watch it all unfold, the techniques being used jump out at you and are then easier to spot when you see them happening in other places or forums.
I guess, but we've seen it here for years...I think I've been backing away more because I've seen how the techniques used here have blown back so effectively into real life...so playing anti-propo warrior here is a lot less amusing and it's just made me sad more than anything.
Like, knowing what's going on, knowing the truth, to me, has always seemed like the best reward - but that feeling of being completely unable to do anything about it, completely unable to break through to those closest to you, to those that actually made you who you are - it's kind of devastating.
We can only control what we can control. I think life is too short to sit there worrying about freeing the minds of everyone you see, and you don't have the power to do that anyway. People will only see what they want to see, only discover what they want to discover. All we can do is help others along the path when we see them trying to find it. We're all going in the same direction and will make it to our destination in the end - I'm sure of that.
I also take comfort in the fact that, even if only in the back of their minds, people know. People have always known, and there isn't anything anyone can do to steal that knowledge away - all they can do is make us forget for a little while. You can try to defy the cosmos all you want, but you'll never win.
This subreddit has been pro-wikileaks and pro-Trump for months, and you expect me to believe that a Buzzfeed article pushing the DNC's Russia narrative is going to get upvoted to the point that it hits /r/all in minutes?
You expect me to believe this sub isnt being brigaded when the thread reads like a fucking /r/politics thread word for word?
Meanwhile your account is three years old, theres a 3 year period with no activity, until 2 weeks ago, and every post you've made since is an anti-Trump post on here.
People popped in the link to post it and it redirected to our link, which was first. If you were a "regular user" here, you'd understand how Reddit works.
While not required, you are requested to use the NP (No Participation) domain of reddit when crossposting. This helps to protect both your account, and the accounts of other users, from administrative shadowbans. The NP domain can be accessed by replacing the "www" in your reddit link with "np".
I saw with my own eyes what happened. It got 300 upvotes in 1 hour. And it kept getting 1000 upvotes every 10 minutes. That NEVER happens for ANYTHING in this sub. And now you want us to believe that an Anti-Trump Russian thread got upvoted naturally on /r/conspiracy? Sure, Jan!
Me, too. If it's any consolation, talking about the stuff we want to talk about is probably more dangerous now than we'd realize. But man, it was fun actually talking about conspiracies and theories.
The entire story is bullshit and now the rest of the media and intelligence community are trying to keep this from blowing up in their face and ruining their reputations by throwing Buzzfeed under the bus
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n/a MartnThaKing 2017-01-12
It was deleted by the mods. Their bias is starting to become obvious.
n/a papayabobby 2017-01-12
It was removed because vote manipulation is not allowed on reddit
n/a MartnThaKing 2017-01-12
There was no vote manipulaton. This sub was mentioned in multiple front page posts before that post itself hit the front page. It's also one of if not the biggest conspiracies in recent times.
n/a papayabobby 2017-01-12
I saw with my own eyes what happened. It got 300 upvotes in 1 hour. And it kept getting 1000 upvotes every 10 minutes. That NEVER happens for ANYTHING in this sub. And now you want us to believe that an Anti-Trump Russian thread got upvoted naturally on /r/conspiracy? Sure, Jan!
n/a MartnThaKing 2017-01-12
Well it is the biggest or one of the biggest conspiracies of our time, and this sub was mentioned pretty early on in the politics threads.
n/a papayabobby 2017-01-12
No it's not. It's a hoax created by 4chan. All the people saying it's the biggest conspiracy of all time are obviously CTR.
n/a purpleReign2 2017-01-12
That's not true. I am not CTR. That's a bullshit deflection tactic.
n/a papayabobby 2017-01-12
Sure
n/a purpleReign2 2017-01-12
Got something else to add?
n/a MartnThaKing 2017-01-12
Dude how are you still repeating that? Even the mod who posted about it retracted their claims when called out.
n/a papayabobby 2017-01-12
Because it's the truth. Even Buzzfeed and CNN are backtracking on it.
n/a MartnThaKing 2017-01-12
Source?
n/a purpleReign2 2017-01-12
Got a source on this?
n/a uckTheSaints 2017-01-12
The DNI just came out and did damage control and said the documents arent from an intelligence agency, in order to protect the intelligence agencies from this
Even NBC is hitting CNN and Buzzfeed over this. Theyre getting thrown under the bus hard for this.
They shilled this story so hard but it just blew up in thier face lmao
n/a purpleReign2 2017-01-12
Links please.
n/a uckTheSaints 2017-01-12
Clapper damage control from an hour ago:
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/latest-trump-nominates-david-shulkin-va-44709501
Media throwing Buzzfeed under the bus:
http://www.baltimoresun.com/entertainment/tv/z-on-tv-blog/bal-buzzfeed--trump-dossier-journalism-debased-20170111-story.html
http://www.businessinsider.com/chuck-todd-ben-smith-buzzfeed-trump-2017-1
http://thehill.com/homenews/news/313895-chuck-todd-to-buzzfeed-editor-you-published-fake-news
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/opinion/the-new-fake-news-buzzfeed-cares-about-clicks-not-the-truth/article33584306/
CNN even publicly distanced themselves from Buzzfeed
The entire story is bullshit and now the rest of the media and intelligence community are trying to keep this from blowing up in their face and ruining their reputations by throwing Buzzfeed under the bus
n/a purpleReign2 2017-01-12
There's really nothing in there that states any of these claims in the dossier are bullshit. The media is pissed that buzzfeed went ahead with the dossier release before it was completely vetted. Clapper didn't deny any claims. Chuck Todd did, but so what?
So, is Clapper the good guy here all of the sudden even tho he never denied the claims. What a fucking weird 180.
n/a uckTheSaints 2017-01-12
Your account is three years old, has 3 years of no activity until 2 weeks ago, then its non stop anti-Trump posts on here.
lol, do you think we're stupid?
n/a purpleReign2 2017-01-12
Right, do you have a source that discredits the dossier or not?
Because right now, you're basically calling me a shill.
n/a uckTheSaints 2017-01-12
Because you are a shill. Its blatantly obvious. Youre not fooling fucking anyone
n/a purpleReign2 2017-01-12
Well, I'm not. I have nothing to gain from arguing with you.
n/a SovereignMan 2017-01-12
Rule 10. No personal attacks. Removed. 1st warning.
n/a uckTheSaints 2017-01-12
FYI, this guys is a legit shill.
3 year old account. 3 years of inactivity. Then he pops back up two weeks ago and has made over 100+ anti-Trump comments on here.
n/a SovereignMan 2017-01-12
Rule 10. Removed. Final warning.
n/a uckTheSaints 2017-01-12
So, are you not gonna do anything about this guy? I'm trying to provide you evidence of manipulation going on here.
I thought the rule was to prevent people from responding to arguments with the "youre a shill line" to try and keep civility, not stop people from sharing actual evidence that there are legitimate shills.
n/a SovereignMan 2017-01-12
We only 'do something' about the rule breakers. He's broken no rules that I've seen.
n/a SovereignMan 2017-01-12
Rule 10. Removed.
n/a MartnThaKing 2017-01-12
Because they aren't from an intelligence agency? Lol
n/a uckTheSaints 2017-01-12
Wasnt the story last night that they were from an intelligence agency?
Like I said, the entire story has fallen apart lmao.
n/a MartnThaKing 2017-01-12
No, retired MI6 agent.
n/a AssNasty 2017-01-12
Allegedly. They really shouldn't have made a story with pictures of someone's homework.
n/a MartnThaKing 2017-01-12
It's like you haven't read this thread and don't understand what we're arguing about or something, what? He said it was Intel agencies, which it wasnt. I asked for sources it's been falling apart, none given.
n/a AssNasty 2017-01-12
I've been following this since buzzfeeds brigade yesterday brainiac. I am aware that the rumor circulated around whatever the cam job of the report was about a retired mi6 agent who leaked it.
I just tossed in the allegedly because not only has nothing been verified or sourced, but also whatever gas was powering this brigade has burnt itself up so the likelihood of actually verifying it went with it.
n/a MartnThaKing 2017-01-12
It's just your replies don't make any sense considering the context of our discussion.
n/a rilexusmaximus 2017-01-12
40 day old account, mostly posts anti-trump shit
n/a MartnThaKing 2017-01-12
You stalking me now bro? Following me around because we're in another argument so you can call me a shil?
n/a rilexusmaximus 2017-01-12
Go away, shoo shoo
n/a MartnThaKing 2017-01-12
You're the one following me around lol
n/a rilexusmaximus 2017-01-12
Your 40 day account is consisted of only conspiracy posts, your history is obvious, please, try harder to mask it, it is no fun like this.
I think it is intentionally so people call you out and you can use the "lol every1 is a shill for you" argument.
n/a MartnThaKing 2017-01-12
No its not, I post in overwatch and ark related subs lol
n/a purpleReign2 2017-01-12
If you repeat a lie long enough...
I've seen this in every thread about it today. That's not true. It hit /r/all and a bunch of people spammed new threads into /r/conspiracy about "vote brigading" to save face because they were being ousted.
n/a papayabobby 2017-01-12
I've seen the post being artificially upvoted with my own eyes. It's literally impossible for a post to reach 300 upvotes in 1 hour on this sub.
n/a purpleReign2 2017-01-12
I was there too. It was on /r/all because it was an actual conspiracy. It's happened before. Trump's people did it tonight with the front page once again.
n/a Reedobandito 2017-01-12
300 upvotes in a single hour? On a site with millions of users daily? you're kidding me
n/a uckTheSaints 2017-01-12
and thats the endgame.
you guys hate that this sub has become pro-trump, so you do what you always do, try to oust the mods so you can get one of your own in there and control the sub.
n/a purpleReign2 2017-01-12
This is bullshit. No one claimed that. More fan fiction from T_D 2.0
n/a Avo69 2017-01-12
MartnThaKing
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n/a purpleReign2 2017-01-12
You keep doing this, but your account is 8 months old, and a bunch of the deflectors in here are around the same time of 6-8 months. Hmmm.
n/a McSylx 2017-01-12
Purplereign2
4 link karma
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n/a SovereignMan 2017-01-12
Rule 10. Removed.
n/a MartnThaKing 2017-01-12
Just start reporting for spam I guess.
n/a Avo69 2017-01-12
Pointing out your agenda isn't spam, obviously.
n/a MartnThaKing 2017-01-12
That's not what you're doing, you're just spamming posts you disagree with. It's also a veiled way of calling someone a shill.
n/a Avo69 2017-01-12
I was drawing attention to the similarities in the karma of you and your three cookie cutter comment buddies. It was very funny for me to see three guys all circle jerking with the very same talking points constantly repeated CTR-style, all with 1 post karma and a dusting of comment karma. Seriously, EVERYONE that says "I came here to learn about this amazing true conspiracy" also only came to do so in a brand new throwaway account or with some hokey story about how they've been here for years but never said anything... The consistency of the amazing alignment of talking points, why they're here, and why they have virgin accounts... It's a very entertaining pattern.
n/a MartnThaKing 2017-01-12
I've said multiple times that I often delete my accounts.
They're the same talking points because we're arguing against the same old unfounded statements over and over again.
n/a sleep-apnea11 2017-01-12
sent you a pm u/Avo69
n/a SovereignMan 2017-01-12
Rule 10. Removed.
n/a SovereignMan 2017-01-12
Rule 10. Removed. Final warning.
n/a toofantastic 2017-01-12
Censorship. Can't criticize oligarchs.
n/a horridCAM666 2017-01-12
But it was false information? Technically, there's more evidence pointing towards it being a 4chan hoax as opposed to anything else.
n/a CrushTheMagi 2017-01-12
No, the 4chan stuff has been debunked repeatedly.
The earliest 4chan mention occurred a day AFTER a motherjones report with the same info. It was 4chan, as usual, attempting to troll.
And the actual report that everyone is concerned about was roughly 8 months older than that.
What a kick in the balls.
This has gotten so far out of hand that even seasoned posters on this sub were fooled by the 4chan garbage.
Or were/are complicit in spreading it.
n/a PentagonPapers71 2017-01-12
Oct 26th 4chan poster claim
http://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/94704894/#94705224
Oct 31st Mother Jones first to run story on the same Friday the poster claimed
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/10/veteran-spy-gave-fbi-info-alleging-russian-operation-cultivate-donald-trump
Nov 1st same 4chan poster celebrating the troll
https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/95568919/#95571329
Quit the bullshit. There's no evidence it was actually 4chan but you need to look for the full information if you want to be considered credible.
n/a CrushTheMagi 2017-01-12
These dossiers first appeared in June of 2016 and the media made note of this. October is entirely too late.
And, even if you believe your timeline, the plan Putin used was to create Plausible Deniability by planting seeds on the internet and among contacts to sow exactly this kind of disagreement.
It is plain as day and the facts are the facts. Putin spread deeper seeds (possibly the 4chan posts) so he could use them later to create this exact sort of disagreement.
It seems to have worked.
n/a PentagonPapers71 2017-01-12
How do you have such confidence? Truly astounding that you know you're right and I'm wrong. I'm not even making any claims other than what you posted was wrong. There is no doubt in my mind that every state is using disinformation and planting stories on the internet. That doesn't mean a dossier littered with spelling errors and recently discredited by MSNBC and NBC tonight is correct.
n/a purpleReign2 2017-01-12
Link to NBC and MSNBC discrediting the dossier?
n/a PentagonPapers71 2017-01-12
Check the edit.
"President-elect Donald Trump was not told about unverified reports that Russia has compromising information on him during last week's intelligence briefing, according to a senior intelligence official with knowledge of preparations for the briefing. "
"The document, which was not prepared by the U.S. government, contains obvious errors. It was originally generated as part of opposition research by anti-Trump Republicans and then shopped by Democrats."
"According to the senior official, the two-page summary about the unsubstantiated material made available to the briefers was to provide context, should they need it, to draw the distinction for Trump between analyzed intelligence and unvetted "disinformation." "
NBC is the parent company of BuzzFeed, so this story is essentialy garbage
n/a purpleReign2 2017-01-12
"Trump claims"
Dude, you just outed yourself. I said link to NBC or MSNBC saying that. You didn't.
Do you have a source?
n/a PentagonPapers71 2017-01-12
What? The story in the article is sourcing s senior intelligence officer. Not sure why the URL is for a different story.
n/a purpleReign2 2017-01-12
Do you have a source of MSNBC and NBC discrediting the dossier or not?
"Senior official" and "trump claims" are not that.
n/a PentagonPapers71 2017-01-12
So an unsourced "intelligence" report posted by BuzzFeed has more credibility than NBC (their parent company) with a credible senior intelligence source. Alright....
Not saying you're CTR or unwilling to read, but it's one of the two.
n/a purpleReign2 2017-01-12
Do you have a source? You said:
Do you have that? Do you have the source? Call me a shill again. Show the world who it really is.
n/a Agnos 2017-01-12
Posted the source above...took me less time to find it than you to repeatedly asking for sources.
n/a purpleReign2 2017-01-12
Do you have this source or not? What you posted above is not that.
n/a CrushTheMagi 2017-01-12
I guess you didn't see Trump's press conference today. Trump admitted he was told.
NBC was wrong and later retracted their claim but there is still some argument about it all.
The main point, though, is that Trump himself admitted it in the press conference. It is in the video if you care to watch.
n/a PentagonPapers71 2017-01-12
I am not going to explain why sourcing disinformation examples as real is wrong. He was briefed on it verbally as an example, as said in the article.
n/a CrushTheMagi 2017-01-12
Just watch the video if you care at all about the truth. He admits the intel agencies briefed him on it. And then he accuses them of undermining his presidency by releasing the dossier. Which they did not do.
It is all right there on the video. No need to take my word. Go watch Trump say so.
n/a PentagonPapers71 2017-01-12
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UV27p_IGSAU
Point out where, because I do not believe I heard him say that.
n/a Avo69 2017-01-12
purpleReign2
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n/a purpleReign2 2017-01-12
What's your point? My account is 3 years old. Yours is 8 months.
I lurk a lot, but lately I've started arguing with you deflection magicians here on /r/conspiracy. Got something to add to the discussion? Or what?
n/a SovereignMan 2017-01-12
Rule 10. Removed.
n/a Agnos 2017-01-12
Donald Trump Wasn’t Told About Unverified Russia Memo, Official Says
n/a purpleReign2 2017-01-12
Again, this is not the source for;
n/a Agnos 2017-01-12
You are a fast reader...reading the source I posted in less than 4 minutes and concluding it is not a source for discrediting the dossier...you seem to have a clear agenda.
From the link I posted (NBC):
n/a dejeneration 2017-01-12
Yeah. And they can't fake that Rosneft transfer that was all over the news. Doh.
n/a Avo69 2017-01-12
CrushTheMagi
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n/a SovereignMan 2017-01-12
Rule 10. Removed.
n/a MartnThaKing 2017-01-12
There is literally no evidence of that. There were no details in that post we can use to verify it, just a vague post that says fan fiction was sent to someone (who isn't even involved in releasing this).
A mod posted that actually but edited their post when they were called out on it.
n/a dejeneration 2017-01-12
There's zero evidence of it being a 4chan hoax. If you honestly believe that, go to bed, you've got school tomorrow.
Ask Erovinkin.
n/a papayabobby 2017-01-12
It was removed because vote manipulation is not allowed on reddit
n/a Axana 2017-01-12
Buzzfeed itself admitted that the report "included clear errors," and the thread itself was brigaded.
I support the moderators' decision to remove it.
n/a MartnThaKing 2017-01-12
There was no vote manipulation. It is one of the biggest conspiracies in recent times and it was mentioned in multiple front page posts before it made it there.
n/a MartnThaKing 2017-01-12
Wasn't brigaded, stop spreading misinformation. If a few errors are enough to delete something then lime 80% of posts here would be deleted but they're not.
n/a Axana 2017-01-12
Here's the thread about the unusual activity in /r/conspiracy when the Buzzfeed thread was upvoted.
The Buzzfeed thread was also linked to in /r/politics, which caused users from that subreddit to flood in and attack /r/conspiracy (violating Rule 10).
n/a MartnThaKing 2017-01-12
Yeah when shit hits the top of reddit other people are going to pour in, no reason to delete it just because it doesn't fit into your little echo chamber anymore.
n/a Axana 2017-01-12
The vote brigading occurred before it hit /r/all and /r/politics.
n/a MartnThaKing 2017-01-12
It was mentioned quite early on the politics thread. And wasn't it deleted for being a hoax? The moderators have am obvious bias, they were spreading that hoax shit before they even looked into it.
http://m.imgur.com/D2tX4gU?r
n/a Axana 2017-01-12
This particular phrase is being repeated around /r/conspiracy quite a bit today.
It's almost as if was copy-and-pasted from a script.
n/a MartnThaKing 2017-01-12
Because it is lmao almost everything you're saying has been repeated constantly too
n/a SovereignMan 2017-01-12
Rule 10. Removed. 1st warning.
n/a MartnThaKing 2017-01-12
How does my post violate rule 10? They're the one making accusations of shilling, not me.
n/a SovereignMan 2017-01-12
If others have also called you a shill then it's your responsibility to report those comments and then they too will be dealt with.
n/a MartnThaKing 2017-01-12
I think I did but I'll go back and make sure, but I'm asking because I don't think this comment made a personal attack or accusation of being called a shill.
n/a purpleReign2 2017-01-12
Hi, how did this violate rule 10?
n/a a9832941 2017-01-12
you use a lot of "a"'s, friendo.. maybe you're copy&pasting too?
n/a Avo69 2017-01-12
a9832941
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n/a a9832941 2017-01-12
that's me
n/a SovereignMan 2017-01-12
Rule 10. Removed.
n/a mandmmadness 2017-01-12
For real? There is now a conspiracy that the conspiracy sub is engaged in a conspiracy to stop the spreading of a conspiracy?
n/a MartnThaKing 2017-01-12
Pretty sure they're just mad that for a moment this sub wasn't an echo chamber for pizzagate and the_donald posters.
n/a purpleReign2 2017-01-12
Look at how they react. "CTR" is their fall back.
n/a SovereignMan 2017-01-12
Rule 10. Removed.
n/a Fyjrdgyrgj 2017-01-12
Prove it please
n/a Axana 2017-01-12
It's covered in original link I posted.
n/a purpleReign2 2017-01-12
That's not proof of your claim. It's proof that this hit /r/all and got a ton of attention. Attention that you didn't want.
n/a Avo69 2017-01-12
Fyjrdgyrgj
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n/a SovereignMan 2017-01-12
Rule 10. Removed.
n/a AssNasty 2017-01-12
It was obviously brigaded. It was like watching the same person constantly repeating almost the exact same argument again and again to himself.
n/a MartnThaKing 2017-01-12
I just don't think you get how reddit works
n/a AssNasty 2017-01-12
Been here for 7 years. I think I know reddit just fine Jr.
n/a Langston_huge 2017-01-12
Did you seriously just call someone junior in an online argument?
n/a AssNasty 2017-01-12
........Yes?
n/a Fyjrdgyrgj 2017-01-12
So they should also remove all pizzagate threads as they are patently false?
n/a buzzlite 2017-01-12
Buzzfeed enough said. Didn't need to throw in unsubstantiated, that is redundant. Not to mention the proven vote brigading with that particular post.
n/a MartnThaKing 2017-01-12
Good thing they has a link to the actual documents, and there has been no proof of vote brigading just a bunch of people who don't understand how reddit works.
n/a mandmmadness 2017-01-12
I read the article and it said the claims were unsubstantiated. I took that to mean they were unable to confirm them.
It also looks like the story had been floating around for months and without being able to substantiate the claims nobody had published it before now.
I also understand that the president and president elect had only recently been briefed on the claims. No idea if it was that briefing that triggered the publishing or not.
n/a Abundances 2017-01-12
It is sad that there is not a post here even looking in to any of the stuff from that document. Trying to prove or disprove any of it. This sub is just a hivemind for t_d now.
n/a Avo69 2017-01-12
Abundances
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n/a SovereignMan 2017-01-12
Rule 10. Removed.
n/a dejeneration 2017-01-12
This place is full of operatives and useful idiots and rubes now. I get the operatives motives, but the useful tools are just freaking sad. This place is just freaking sad now. :(
n/a mandmmadness 2017-01-12
Yeah I have just cruised some of the other posts this past 12 hours...oh dear.
n/a purpleReign2 2017-01-12
I don't know why I'm here. It's a losing battle. Just miss the old /r/conspiracy.
n/a dejeneration 2017-01-12
Me, too. If it's any consolation, talking about the stuff we want to talk about is probably more dangerous now than we'd realize. But man, it was fun actually talking about conspiracies and theories.
n/a purpleReign2 2017-01-12
I much prefer the batshit crazy that used to hit the frontpage. A lot of it was dumb, but it wasn't pushing a narrative.
n/a dejeneration 2017-01-12
Yeah. And hell, flat earth stuff would be gold compared to the sad knob-slobbering. reality-denying sycophantism we're seeing now. And batshit crazy is actually fun a lot of the time, makes you think outside the box. I've a softspot for Vigilant Citizen-type stuff. But dare mention a certain someone's occult handsigns and prepare for psycho "kill yourself" PMs.
n/a CrushTheMagi 2017-01-12
Yep. The 'Truth To Power' aspect is all gone with Trump coming to power.
No one is allowed to speak Truth to that particular Power.
Or even to question it.
This is a very unfortunate time. I hope it doesn't last long.
n/a Ambiguously_Ironic 2017-01-12
It's interesting from an observational standpoint though no? Just take a step back and watch it all unfold, the techniques being used jump out at you and are then easier to spot when you see them happening in other places or forums.
n/a dejeneration 2017-01-12
I guess, but we've seen it here for years...I think I've been backing away more because I've seen how the techniques used here have blown back so effectively into real life...so playing anti-propo warrior here is a lot less amusing and it's just made me sad more than anything.
Like, knowing what's going on, knowing the truth, to me, has always seemed like the best reward - but that feeling of being completely unable to do anything about it, completely unable to break through to those closest to you, to those that actually made you who you are - it's kind of devastating.
n/a Ambiguously_Ironic 2017-01-12
We can only control what we can control. I think life is too short to sit there worrying about freeing the minds of everyone you see, and you don't have the power to do that anyway. People will only see what they want to see, only discover what they want to discover. All we can do is help others along the path when we see them trying to find it. We're all going in the same direction and will make it to our destination in the end - I'm sure of that.
I also take comfort in the fact that, even if only in the back of their minds, people know. People have always known, and there isn't anything anyone can do to steal that knowledge away - all they can do is make us forget for a little while. You can try to defy the cosmos all you want, but you'll never win.
n/a uckTheSaints 2017-01-12
The moderators removed it because it was a blatant /r/politics /r/EnoughTrumpSpam briagde.
Half the posts in the thread were talking shit about this subreddit and its users and we're obviously not from active users here.
The other part is that article would never be upvoted here without vote manipulation. It was blatant manipulation.
n/a purpleReign2 2017-01-12
This is not true, and has been explained multiple times in this very thread. You guys keep repeating it tho. Wonder why?
n/a uckTheSaints 2017-01-12
Yes, it was an /r/politics brigade.
I fucking watched it dude.
This subreddit has been pro-wikileaks and pro-Trump for months, and you expect me to believe that a Buzzfeed article pushing the DNC's Russia narrative is going to get upvoted to the point that it hits /r/all in minutes?
You expect me to believe this sub isnt being brigaded when the thread reads like a fucking /r/politics thread word for word?
Meanwhile your account is three years old, theres a 3 year period with no activity, until 2 weeks ago, and every post you've made since is an anti-Trump post on here.
n/a dejeneration 2017-01-12
The /r/conspiracy article was the first posted and ended up on /all where EVERYONE was looking for it.
But keep on those knees for ya boy. Don't expect him to reward you.
n/a uckTheSaints 2017-01-12
The fact that it got to /r/all in the first place was manipulation
The article would never have been upvoted on this subreddit.
That story getting upvoted here would be like a report of Trump bringing back a few thousand jobs getting upvoted on /r/EnoughTrumpSpam
This was an obvious brigade to any regular user here
n/a dejeneration 2017-01-12
People popped in the link to post it and it redirected to our link, which was first. If you were a "regular user" here, you'd understand how Reddit works.
n/a purpleReign2 2017-01-12
So, you're saying that because it was anti-trump, and that's not welcome here, it would never be upvoted so much. Got it.
n/a uckTheSaints 2017-01-12
Im saying that the everday userbase of this sub would not upvote that article. Which is true.
That article being upvoted here is like a pro-Trump breitbart article getting upvoted on /r/enoughtrumpspam
It was blatant vote manipulation.
n/a purpleReign2 2017-01-12
I am the everyday userbase. The only vote manipulation I see is for pushing a pro-trump narrative. That's why I'm here speaking up.
n/a uckTheSaints 2017-01-12
hahahahaha
you guys are a joke
n/a purpleReign2 2017-01-12
What do you mean by "you guys?" Care to explain?
n/a BeeverCleaver 2017-01-12
Judging by your rhetoric, I'd say it's fairly obvious. CTR.
n/a purpleReign2 2017-01-12
I watched it too. It was an actual conspiracy, so wow, imagine that... It hits /r/all.
n/a uckTheSaints 2017-01-12
3 year old account
3 years of inactivity
then 3 weeks ago you pop up and every post is an anti-Trump post on here.
lmao at you guys. just lmao
n/a purpleReign2 2017-01-12
Yeah, because the sub I used to enjoy lurking is now being overrun by you guys.
n/a uckTheSaints 2017-01-12
hahahaha, you guys dont actually think anyone is dumb enough to fall for this, do you?
n/a purpleReign2 2017-01-12
Who are you guys? What are you saying?
n/a Carkly 2017-01-12
you are pretty sad tbh
n/a purpleReign2 2017-01-12
https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/5nhcea/rconspiracy_is_being_attacked_by_ctr_spreading/
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n/a tamrix 2017-01-12
Then leave.
n/a Avo69 2017-01-12
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n/a SovereignMan 2017-01-12
Rule 10. Removed.
n/a lilminnow 2017-01-12
I think all conspiracy theories should be fine to post here, let the voting decide?
n/a papayabobby 2017-01-12
I saw with my own eyes what happened. It got 300 upvotes in 1 hour. And it kept getting 1000 upvotes every 10 minutes. That NEVER happens for ANYTHING in this sub. And now you want us to believe that an Anti-Trump Russian thread got upvoted naturally on /r/conspiracy? Sure, Jan!
n/a dejeneration 2017-01-12
Me, too. If it's any consolation, talking about the stuff we want to talk about is probably more dangerous now than we'd realize. But man, it was fun actually talking about conspiracies and theories.
n/a uckTheSaints 2017-01-12
Clapper damage control from an hour ago:
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/latest-trump-nominates-david-shulkin-va-44709501
Media throwing Buzzfeed under the bus:
http://www.baltimoresun.com/entertainment/tv/z-on-tv-blog/bal-buzzfeed--trump-dossier-journalism-debased-20170111-story.html
http://www.businessinsider.com/chuck-todd-ben-smith-buzzfeed-trump-2017-1
http://thehill.com/homenews/news/313895-chuck-todd-to-buzzfeed-editor-you-published-fake-news
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/opinion/the-new-fake-news-buzzfeed-cares-about-clicks-not-the-truth/article33584306/
CNN even publicly distanced themselves from Buzzfeed
The entire story is bullshit and now the rest of the media and intelligence community are trying to keep this from blowing up in their face and ruining their reputations by throwing Buzzfeed under the bus
n/a uckTheSaints 2017-01-12
Your account is three years old, has 3 years of no activity until 2 weeks ago, then its non stop anti-Trump posts on here.
lol, do you think we're stupid?
n/a purpleReign2 2017-01-12
You keep doing this, but your account is 8 months old, and a bunch of the deflectors in here are around the same time of 6-8 months. Hmmm.
n/a McSylx 2017-01-12
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n/a MartnThaKing 2017-01-12
Just start reporting for spam I guess.
n/a uckTheSaints 2017-01-12
Im saying that the everday userbase of this sub would not upvote that article. Which is true.
That article being upvoted here is like a pro-Trump breitbart article getting upvoted on /r/enoughtrumpspam
It was blatant vote manipulation.
n/a uckTheSaints 2017-01-12
Because you are a shill. Its blatantly obvious. Youre not fooling fucking anyone
n/a SovereignMan 2017-01-12
Rule 10. Removed.
n/a SovereignMan 2017-01-12
Rule 10. Removed.
n/a MartnThaKing 2017-01-12
I just don't think you get how reddit works