The only "power" needed to discredit #pizzagate is basic critical thinking and a resilience to extrapolated nonsense. There are many real conspiracies that deserve analysis - the gullibility of people who believe this particular heap of sick, projected bullshit is embarrassing.
Elite sex societies have existed for thousands of years. A giant UK pedo ring involving tons of elected officials was busted wide open just a few years ago, and yet you think your government can't possible be sick and corrupt hahaha.
What I think is that anyone can say anything on social media, and with enough repetition, morons will believe it. I also think that humans have a remarkable facility for storytelling, and for molding reality around personal fantasy. And I think the irony of conspiracy theorists who are actually just parroting an "alternative" form of propaganda is hilarious.
"Spam" and "shill" - lazy arguments reserved for the willfully blind.
The joke is how easy it is for the right-wing propagandists to get you dancing to their fiddles. Whatever man. I guess Reddit no longer has a quality critical-skeptic subreddit.
By the way, I'm tired of you brainwashed faggots refusing to tell us exactly why PizzaGate is bullshit. Tell us why all this circumstantial evidence means nothing and we're all just insane.
Nope.
Instead you morons just always say "LOL YOUR'E AN IDIOT BROOOOO HOW COULD U BELIEVE THIS?"
He is a shill. Don't reply- It just lowers your intelligence. They come here to spread confusion and tell you that you are wrong for not believing in the government and sucking their cock.
This is why this sub is a laughing-stock. It used to be a place where people actually engaged in an exchange of interesting ideas, now it's just a right-leaning fake news circle jerk.
I'm a "shill" because I read a lot, follow politics, and don't swallow every absurd hit-piece that comes from the delusional far-right? And replying to me will just "lower the intelligence" of /u/Delusional_Liberal - a user who just threw a temper tantrum and called me a "brainwashed faggot"? Yeah, we wouldn't want to lower his intelligence - there can't be much left to spare.
I think some self-examination is in order here. Who do you want to be in this world? Are you here because you value the truth, or are you here to be a pawn in a right-wing fantasy? The real conspiracy is not pizzagate - it's the billionaires, industrialists, and Christian extremists who are gaining unchecked control of our government. This fake news shit is a distraction from an actual power grab, just like Trump's constant tweeting. They have been building this up for decades, and they are counting on the divisiveness and inaction of the public. Utterly mind-boggling how well it is working out. Nice job, America.
You are not letting us engage in interesting ideas since you come here after getting your paycheck and say "Pizza gate not real lol" Then you spread your brainwashing.
The prove is how your first post called us all morons yet you showed no proof to debunk pizza gate.
because pizzagate is fucking dumb, built entirely on switching innocuous words to "fucking little boys" and thousands upon thousands of 4chan links, images with ms painted 'connections' from one thing to another, and other bullshit. you don't need "proof to debunk" something that doesn't even have one shred of evidence for it beyond switching "pasta" to "torture room"
Let's just look at some noble quotes from /u/ApollosCrow - a user who tells us that he just wanting to focus on the "real conspiracies" and that this sub has been derailed. Well, aside from them being an avid and typical r/politics and r/enoughtrumpspam poster we can find, just from a few days of content, patterns in how this particular poster concern trolls:
You are so thoroughly entrenched in a conspiracy-laden internet fantasy...
You want a real conspiracy? Pay attention to the upcoming administration of billionaires, Christian fundamentalists, and fossil fuel cronies...
You are so thoroughly entrenched in a conspiracy-laden internet fantasy that you don't even notice your own capacity for critical thought shriveling up.
what you're demonstrating here is conspiracy-driven armchair criticism of a field you have actually no knowledge of, because "the media" is probably the most popular scarecrow of this moment
NPR ranks high on the scale of trust. It isn't just that they are "not as bad" as a conspiracy website or social media news, it's that they are a well-established
No user of a board such as this would ever dare use the term conspiracy as a means of conducting an ad-hominem. We know that the term itself was originally weaponized to marginalize people who didn't buy the official JFK assassination story.
So you want us to believe that you simply want this sub to go back to "the good stuff"? If only we could get passed our obsession with being T_D 2.0 and pizza we'd get your seal of approval. Your divide and conquer shit won't work here, sorry.
You were never apart of this sub. You'd shit yourself if your peers found out regularly posted to r/conspiracy and then you'd say "no no no I'm simply trying to redirect the narrative, I don't believe anything on there!"
while real conspiracies erupt all around you and play you for fools
The agenda that you digest and barf all of this sub and others would have you labeled a conspiracy theorist had a Trump Presidency not be seen as a collective threat to the MSM. We're living in the upside down.
I don't have "peers" on Reddit - believe it or not, not everyone is emotionally invested in a goddamn website.
I don't know what "part of this sub" is supposed to mean. You make it sound like a cult, which is fucking hilarious and absolutely fitting.
You may be comfortably surrounded here by Trumpster sycophants, but in truth your comments make you look ridiculous. Trump is not as much a threat to the free press, mainstream or independent, as he thinks he is. He is however a threat to reason, sustainability, and actual liberties - regardless of your personal ability to realize it. Worse, Trump is himself merely a tool for a longstanding far-Right agenda that has been angling for power since the 80s. I am both fascinated and saddened to watch this real-life dystopia unraveling while you geniuses debate the hidden symbolism of pizza toppings.
I don't have "peers" on Reddit - believe it or not, not everyone is emotionally invested in a goddamn website.
Didn't say on reddit. Your next sentence is an attempt at an ad-hominem.
You make it sound like a cult, which is fucking hilarious and absolutely fitting.
Another attempt at an ad-hominem, where you actually admit that you think this sub / users are shit.
You may be comfortably surrounded here by Trumpster sycophants
Trump supporters redpill the world, and they come here to get redpilled by us. It's taxing, it's tiring, there's a lot of bullshit, but it's well worth it.
I am both fascinated and saddened to watch this real-life dystopia unraveling
This sub has, unfortunately, become shit. Yes. There are still remnants of true thinkers, I see them here and there. But they are outnumbered (or out-botted). The Trump "revolution" is pathetic, it relies heavily on delusion and illusion, and too many in this sub have fallen into it.
Alt-right/fake news trump trollsters need to be exposed and rejected for what they are and what they've been doing - in a coordinated and deliberate manner - all over the internet.
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Here's another thought for you - pay attention to patterns.
If you frequent subs with political content and biases, you begin to notice that pro-Trump sentiment seems to shoot way up when it's late at night for the US, but morning for, oh I don't know, Russia. I see this over and over. Isn't that weird?
You rule this planet. Your slaves are easy, compliant. You almost fell empathy for them - sometimes. The great unwashed are hard to love consistently, after all. But now - they're starting to think, stating to question, starting to organize and rebell in ways you hadn't necessarily anticipated - at least not in your lifetime. You sit on the precipice of something entirely new. Do you fight them? Or do you simply reduce their numbers back down to a more manageable population?
problematic when the single defining quality of your bossypantsness is , well, your reliance upon hierarchy. that shit is a smell you can't wash off. it's embedded in your world view. Axe deodorant indeed.
This, along with the increasing anti-Russia propaganda, and the fake news nonsense all seem entirely too coincidental... I believe that the timing is indeed intentional. These things work together too well to be unorchestrated in my opinion.
He is a shill. Don't reply- It just lowers your intelligence. They come here to spread confusion and tell you that you are wrong for not believing in the government and sucking their cock.
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n/a Putin_loves_cats 2017-01-15
I think that's exactly what they are doing.
n/a Kek47 2017-01-15
#pissgate gimme a break. They even had Trump go full nuts to amplify it.
n/a skyderper12 2017-01-15
maybe but looking at their competency at blaming russia for hacking, probably not gonna happen.
n/a ApollosCrow 2017-01-15
"The powers that be"?
The only "power" needed to discredit #pizzagate is basic critical thinking and a resilience to extrapolated nonsense. There are many real conspiracies that deserve analysis - the gullibility of people who believe this particular heap of sick, projected bullshit is embarrassing.
n/a Delusional_Liberal 2017-01-15
Elite sex societies have existed for thousands of years. A giant UK pedo ring involving tons of elected officials was busted wide open just a few years ago, and yet you think your government can't possible be sick and corrupt hahaha.
n/a ApollosCrow 2017-01-15
What I think is that anyone can say anything on social media, and with enough repetition, morons will believe it. I also think that humans have a remarkable facility for storytelling, and for molding reality around personal fantasy. And I think the irony of conspiracy theorists who are actually just parroting an "alternative" form of propaganda is hilarious.
Thank you for being Exhibit A.
n/a mrsnakers 2017-01-15
Oh so that's why you're here spamming the exact same comments in every Trump / Pizza thread!
n/a ApollosCrow 2017-01-15
"Spam" and "shill" - lazy arguments reserved for the willfully blind.
The joke is how easy it is for the right-wing propagandists to get you dancing to their fiddles. Whatever man. I guess Reddit no longer has a quality critical-skeptic subreddit.
n/a mrsnakers 2017-01-15
Sorry we've let you down. I guess you should just go on back to r/politics. We've lost another. tear
n/a ApollosCrow 2017-01-15
You relish the fact that you rely on an echo chamber, and try to project that onto me.
You are sad and transparent. And I suspect that the reason my comments bother you so much is that there is some part of you that knows they are true.
n/a mrsnakers 2017-01-15
PROJECTION, LADIES AND GENTS!
n/a ApollosCrow 2017-01-15
Now this is becoming boring. You can do better than that.
n/a SovereignMan 2017-01-15
Which has absolutely nothing to do with pizza.
n/a chickyrogue 2017-01-15
sovereignMan surely you beleive david seaman i do
n/a Rockran 2017-01-15
Nothing you've said has anything to do in favor of Pizzagate being true.
n/a Delusional_Liberal 2017-01-15
By the way, I'm tired of you brainwashed faggots refusing to tell us exactly why PizzaGate is bullshit. Tell us why all this circumstantial evidence means nothing and we're all just insane.
Nope.
Instead you morons just always say "LOL YOUR'E AN IDIOT BROOOOO HOW COULD U BELIEVE THIS?"
n/a Awhegark 2017-01-15
He is a shill. Don't reply- It just lowers your intelligence. They come here to spread confusion and tell you that you are wrong for not believing in the government and sucking their cock.
n/a Rockran 2017-01-15
Anyone that doesn't agree with me is a shill, it's just not possible for me to be wrong. Anyone who thinks differently is obviously paid to do so
n/a chickyrogue 2017-01-15
they provoke ou til you finally bitch smack them and then they go cryin to the mods
n/a ApollosCrow 2017-01-15
This is why this sub is a laughing-stock. It used to be a place where people actually engaged in an exchange of interesting ideas, now it's just a right-leaning fake news circle jerk.
I'm a "shill" because I read a lot, follow politics, and don't swallow every absurd hit-piece that comes from the delusional far-right? And replying to me will just "lower the intelligence" of /u/Delusional_Liberal - a user who just threw a temper tantrum and called me a "brainwashed faggot"? Yeah, we wouldn't want to lower his intelligence - there can't be much left to spare.
I think some self-examination is in order here. Who do you want to be in this world? Are you here because you value the truth, or are you here to be a pawn in a right-wing fantasy? The real conspiracy is not pizzagate - it's the billionaires, industrialists, and Christian extremists who are gaining unchecked control of our government. This fake news shit is a distraction from an actual power grab, just like Trump's constant tweeting. They have been building this up for decades, and they are counting on the divisiveness and inaction of the public. Utterly mind-boggling how well it is working out. Nice job, America.
n/a Awhegark 2017-01-15
You are not letting us engage in interesting ideas since you come here after getting your paycheck and say "Pizza gate not real lol" Then you spread your brainwashing.
The prove is how your first post called us all morons yet you showed no proof to debunk pizza gate.
n/a a9832941 2017-01-15
because pizzagate is fucking dumb, built entirely on switching innocuous words to "fucking little boys" and thousands upon thousands of 4chan links, images with ms painted 'connections' from one thing to another, and other bullshit. you don't need "proof to debunk" something that doesn't even have one shred of evidence for it beyond switching "pasta" to "torture room"
n/a Awhegark 2017-01-15
I know you might not have enough attention span to connect all the little dots, but that's how people find criminals since ancient times.
Your last sentence explains how you have not even taken a look at pizza gate information and just came here to say is fake.
n/a mrsnakers 2017-01-15
Let's just look at some noble quotes from /u/ApollosCrow - a user who tells us that he just wanting to focus on the "real conspiracies" and that this sub has been derailed. Well, aside from them being an avid and typical r/politics and r/enoughtrumpspam poster we can find, just from a few days of content, patterns in how this particular poster concern trolls:
No user of a board such as this would ever dare use the term conspiracy as a means of conducting an ad-hominem. We know that the term itself was originally weaponized to marginalize people who didn't buy the official JFK assassination story.
So you want us to believe that you simply want this sub to go back to "the good stuff"? If only we could get passed our obsession with being T_D 2.0 and pizza we'd get your seal of approval. Your divide and conquer shit won't work here, sorry.
For RES users: TAG 'EM AND BAG 'EM BOYS
n/a ApollosCrow 2017-01-15
Pathetic.
Intelligence has become anathema in this sub. You cling to outlandish garbage while real conspiracies erupt all around you and play you for fools.
n/a mrsnakers 2017-01-15
Doubling down I see.
You were never apart of this sub. You'd shit yourself if your peers found out regularly posted to r/conspiracy and then you'd say "no no no I'm simply trying to redirect the narrative, I don't believe anything on there!"
The agenda that you digest and barf all of this sub and others would have you labeled a conspiracy theorist had a Trump Presidency not be seen as a collective threat to the MSM. We're living in the upside down.
n/a ApollosCrow 2017-01-15
I don't have "peers" on Reddit - believe it or not, not everyone is emotionally invested in a goddamn website.
I don't know what "part of this sub" is supposed to mean. You make it sound like a cult, which is fucking hilarious and absolutely fitting.
You may be comfortably surrounded here by Trumpster sycophants, but in truth your comments make you look ridiculous. Trump is not as much a threat to the free press, mainstream or independent, as he thinks he is. He is however a threat to reason, sustainability, and actual liberties - regardless of your personal ability to realize it. Worse, Trump is himself merely a tool for a longstanding far-Right agenda that has been angling for power since the 80s. I am both fascinated and saddened to watch this real-life dystopia unraveling while you geniuses debate the hidden symbolism of pizza toppings.
n/a mrsnakers 2017-01-15
Didn't say on reddit. Your next sentence is an attempt at an ad-hominem.
Another attempt at an ad-hominem, where you actually admit that you think this sub / users are shit.
Trump supporters redpill the world, and they come here to get redpilled by us. It's taxing, it's tiring, there's a lot of bullshit, but it's well worth it.
And that makes me happy.
n/a ApollosCrow 2017-01-15
This sub has, unfortunately, become shit. Yes. There are still remnants of true thinkers, I see them here and there. But they are outnumbered (or out-botted). The Trump "revolution" is pathetic, it relies heavily on delusion and illusion, and too many in this sub have fallen into it.
n/a mrsnakers 2017-01-15
You are full of gems.
-/u/ApollosCrow
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n/a ApollosCrow 2017-01-15
Here's another thought for you - pay attention to patterns.
If you frequent subs with political content and biases, you begin to notice that pro-Trump sentiment seems to shoot way up when it's late at night for the US, but morning for, oh I don't know, Russia. I see this over and over. Isn't that weird?
n/a mrsnakers 2017-01-15
So when we jump to conclusions based on circumstantial evidence, we're kooks, but when you do it, it's fine.
Lmao what a load of conspiracy theory horse shit.
You realize autists like us stay up until 3 am because we don't have normie jobs, right? kek
n/a ApollosCrow 2017-01-15
So what you're saying is, circumstantial "evidence" and matters of extrapolation and perception are not sufficient to prove a conspiracy?
INTERESTING
Okay, now that's done, I'm going to bed. Good night, you crazy kids.
n/a mrsnakers 2017-01-15
No no, don't go! You still have some projecting to do from the other comment I just left you!
n/a uppitydownity 2017-01-15
You don't even know what circumstantial evidence means.
n/a ApollosCrow 2017-01-15
Dissecting Pizza-Gate
n/a ApollosCrow 2017-01-15
The fact that you have been heavily upvoted for flinging grade-school insults is all the proof necessary to show how far this sub has fallen.
You dug this cesspool, and I leave you here to wallow in it.
n/a chickyrogue 2017-01-15
dont have children
n/a mrgrippa 2017-01-15
I think it giving the guilty parties a way out if they are caught.
n/a lily_levasseur 2017-01-15
Think about this:
You rule this planet. Your slaves are easy, compliant. You almost fell empathy for them - sometimes. The great unwashed are hard to love consistently, after all. But now - they're starting to think, stating to question, starting to organize and rebell in ways you hadn't necessarily anticipated - at least not in your lifetime. You sit on the precipice of something entirely new. Do you fight them? Or do you simply reduce their numbers back down to a more manageable population?
It's a conundrum.
n/a chickyrogue 2017-01-15
isay take no prisoners we are at worse odds 99 to 1 % than the french revolution ....
n/a ProbingLinguist 2017-01-15
problematic when the single defining quality of your bossypantsness is , well, your reliance upon hierarchy. that shit is a smell you can't wash off. it's embedded in your world view. Axe deodorant indeed.
n/a lily_levasseur 2017-01-15
I know that was supposed to be an insult, but...
I admit it, I lol'd. Good one. XD
n/a ProbingLinguist 2017-01-15
no insult intended, actually
n/a How1ntriguing 2017-01-15
Yessir
n/a misspook 2017-01-15
This, along with the increasing anti-Russia propaganda, and the fake news nonsense all seem entirely too coincidental... I believe that the timing is indeed intentional. These things work together too well to be unorchestrated in my opinion.
n/a Badgereatingyourface 2017-01-15
If there is blackmail material about to come out such as CP or whatever, do we have to refer to it as Pizzagate?
n/a Laborigen 2017-01-15
They are using what they read on the net too, and are adapting.. (While still having war-like deception strategies, that is..)
n/a mjbmitch 2017-01-15
What news stories are you referring to?
n/a DDO39 2017-01-15
Does the Catholic Church not count as an elite sex ring?
n/a Dragnar12 2017-01-15
that is / was not a ring.
It was an institutionalized pedo organisation
n/a Awhegark 2017-01-15
He is a shill. Don't reply- It just lowers your intelligence. They come here to spread confusion and tell you that you are wrong for not believing in the government and sucking their cock.
n/a Awhegark 2017-01-15
I know you might not have enough attention span to connect all the little dots, but that's how people find criminals since ancient times.
Your last sentence explains how you have not even taken a look at pizza gate information and just came here to say is fake.
n/a uppitydownity 2017-01-15
You don't even know what circumstantial evidence means.
n/a ApollosCrow 2017-01-15
Dissecting Pizza-Gate
n/a ApollosCrow 2017-01-15
The fact that you have been heavily upvoted for flinging grade-school insults is all the proof necessary to show how far this sub has fallen.
You dug this cesspool, and I leave you here to wallow in it.