Let's be real. Conspiracy theorists scrutinize and question the government no matter who is in charge. "let's give the government a chance!" Is a bullshit excuse for ignoring corruption when it's coming from a person you think is infallible. We must not let go of the conspiracy theorist mindset.

376  2017-01-20 by russian321

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Its because this sub is overrun with pro government shills. Glad to see im not the only one..

Donald Trump is about to become president and yet our "hot" page is all Clinton stories. She lost over two months ago.How does Donald Trump after decades of billion dollar business, running one of the most unconventional campaigns ever, putting extremely rich cronies up into the cabinet, etc. not have a single conspiracy that sticks whatsoever?

Is it because everyone already thinks he's a piece of shit so it would change anything? Is it because Hillary's supposed to be the postergirl for liberal's land and therefore needs to be disproven as an untruth?

How is this sub going to be legit if it refuses to look into conspiracies on the sitting president? We have people now saying that it's a FACT he has no ties to Russia and all of it's a hoax.

Ive said it since the beginning, trump is a psyop president.

Maybe, but that doesn't mean the board isn't manipulated, too.

Does anyone have the smallest doubt that Reddit is overrun by Kremlin shills?

I think they come in all shapes and sizes.

CTR is back. We have solid proof regarding CTR, as seen in the leaked emails and FEC filings.

Nothing concrete to show for Kremlin shills, except for empty CTR claims.

Look at the top upvoted posts on the front page now, All Anti Trump.

Who would upvote Anti Trump posts? Kremlin shills or CTR?

Get a grip on your hallucinations.

Why would CTR be back after Hillary lost? She's not running for anything. She's done. Nobody is campaigning for her.

Calling people who disagree with Trump CTR shills is a dishonest misdirection tactic.

It's almost like there are more elections after Hillary lost and CTR wasn't just something for Hillary.

Crazy I know.

hey good to see you, redditor for one month, with 5000+ karma, who posts exclusively in conspiracy, the donald, in addition to posting right wing stuff in left wing subs.

Hillary said Russia is bad so it's bad mmkay. ignore the millions between her and Saudi Arabia, and Soros, and the alliance between Israel, Saudi Arabia and the US which saw Obama drop 100,000 bombs during his presidency. Just keep believing these people stand for "human rights" while they cause the most human deaths

Something like that right? Would be slightly ironic if a repeat of "color" revolution or the Maiden fiasco happened stateside as you'd be sitting in a wasteland wondering how did Russia outsmart u so well.

whoa what? someone poured water on the Krembot.

lol they are learning English so well you can troll them back now

I don't think I've seen a single one.

I've picked off tons of DOD and CTR. One or two Mossad in the Donald. No Kremlin yet.

Although, lots of people think I'm a Kremlin shill because I see Russia much like Kennedy did.

I mean a Russian shill would write pretty much a comment exactly like yours. Care to upload a pic of your passport, Komrade?

That's stupid. Anyone could just google an image of a hand holding a US passport. Were you gonna do some fucking cyber forensics on it?

God, do you even know how ridiculous you sound? Get out and get some sunlight or something like that.

Fine... Back in an hour.

Muh Russia narrative. Sorry buddy but if Trump is puppeted (and I don't know why anyone wouldn't expect that on here) it is by neo-cons/Zionists.

The Russia BS is a weak narrative. And the evidence is mostly shouting and "u hurt my feelings if u disagree"

The only two scenarios I see is that there is Trump/Zionist alliance primarily which can allow for moderate cooperation with Russia.

Or

There's an overarching much grander, more consolidated force which controls every nation. But it doesn't entirely make sense since the Soros/Saudi side wars with the Zionist/neo-con side. At the end of the day they will ally over outside nations or business powers but they still attack each other just the same.

Psyop president?

How does Donald Trump after decades of billion dollar business, running one of the most unconventional campaigns ever, putting extremely rich cronies up into the cabinet, etc. not have a single conspiracy that sticks whatsoever?

There's a few. I think he's probably bribed a few officials to get building permits, and stiffed a few contractors. It's orders of magnitude better than what most of these politicians do, so I'm hopeful it will be a good presidency.

um he had a press conference denying the allegations. Which this sub already reported on! what more do you want? since when is a press conference from a billionaire with global assets not good enough for you people? he said it wasnt true!

Until Clinton is in jail it's not worth anything. If u she does not answer for her copious and obvious/public crimes there is absolutely no hope in hell u are taking a sitting president down. Unless her people want him down. Then u put the other side back in charge AND give them the "we cleaned up Washington" narrative.

Think for a moment.

Thank you for asking the questions that need to be asked.

I think it's a fact that the medias are pushing this Russia "hack" bullshit without any substance in it just to discredit him.

But who knowns, maybe he has serious ties to Russia,

The ONLY people I see mentioning Hillary ad nauseum are pro Trump shills who are apparently so insecure with his win that they're stuck in the election campaign.

Don't forget people saying anti-Trump protesters are all paid shills in one thread, and then in the next thread saying corrupt plutocrats are ruining normal people's lives. Like damn pick a side

Neither side is right so no.

We've been infiltrated by The_Donald

I voted Trump and still find the blind, Trump worship disgusting

We have been for over a year..

Yeah but the election is over and they need to leave

Give it another week.. they will be gone

Nah, been coming here for about 5 years, not going anywhere.

It will not end. Not only does it continue the idea that all corruption is leftist, left = big gov = communism = NWO, but is also ensures that all Trump suspicions are relegated to MSM propaganda status, regardless of merit or increasing likelihood. You saw what happened with that massive post-dossier thread.

Nah, been coming to this sub for about 5 years, not going to leave because you don't agree with me. Trump was the only candidate mentioning shit that aligned with this subreddit's discussion.

I don't care about Trump supporters. I care about dicksucking and blindly worshipping

Fair enough but that's what a lot of people here would say but I'm pretty sure where the line is drawn is very biased/thin, no?

You guys don't see how there could be an overlap of conspiracy theorists and Trump supporters? Not all of the Trump supporters here are newcomers, and certainly not new to conspiracy theorists. I don't see how you guys are claiming it's been "infiltrated". He's a candidate that was actually mentioning shit that this sub has been mentioning.

I find that comma placement disgusting

The "alt right" is a just a bunch of angry white guys who are pissed that they're not as privileged as the SJWs claim. They aren't anti-corruption, they just want their piece of government cheese.

Exactly

Yeah, continue the bullshit that this subreddit is supposed to be against. Hehe its all angry white poor redneck virgins fucking their waifu pillows, all the black people and minorities among them have just been fooled into thinking they are white. Arent I so enlightened

this subreddit is about questioning authoritarianism. and the alt right is extremely authoritarian. it's an emotional appeal to a new political identity of people who feel disenfranchised. it's a "populism" that has been seen again and again in history, an i think it's a dangerous mindset. but i don't expect you to understand it.

new political identity

has been seen again and again in history

Okay then.

And why don't you expect me to understand it? Understand what?

I think really you just can't accept that my comment hit too close to home. Don't like their ideology? Fine. But what does it have to do with "angry white guys"? How about you spend some time questioning your morals/what you're even saying.

Not just white guys. I am half mexican, but because my skin is pale most of the year since I spend so much time indoors, SJWs have a habit of categorizing me as white whenever it's convenient for them.

The "pure" minorities I know get the same treatment, and are just accused of being whitewashed colonial enablers every time they disagree with an SJW.

I'm pissed because 100% of the racism I've felt this past year has been from liberals.

Also, because I argued against my conservative mother as a liberal for the past eight years, only to see the liberal climate that made her a conservative in the first place rear it's ugly head during my lifetime.

Even though her and I still disagree on things like abortion and gay marriage, it's nice to finally have a mutual understanding and revulsion for SJWs and subversive corrupt snakes like Clinton.

I'm sure I'm not the only one this year who found themselves agreeing with conservatives they never thought they'd see eye to eye with.

Yes it's full of government shills but you guys don't see how it's possible to still criticize everything and at the same time "give the government a chance"? I think we should know by now why there's a big overlap of Trump supporters and conspiracy theorists, yeah some of them are getting swept up into believing everything Trump says, but this game of "I'm a REAL conspiracy theorists, be like me!" has always been part of the downfall of this sub.

Think you're wrong about the shills, but you and OP are right.

I am hopeful that Trump will at least drain the swamp. I guess human nature tells me a new swamp will just replace the old swamp, but I can enjoy the time in between.

Lololoo l ollolloo

Have you seen his cabinet pick?!?! He is not draining any swamps.

Have you seen what he was picking from? I've talked to people in the transition team. Most of the insiders wouldn't even talk to them.

I wish.. but it's not going to happen.

Well i guess you've been sleeping this entire week of the confirmation hearings of trumps cabinet nominees

Thanks for the downvote, friend

Don't be selfish, think of the future of humanity.

Huh? I think it is fantastic that that the Clinton/Bush cabal are out. I hope Trump is great.

As an additional note: If you think that Russia and China are against the NWO there is something wrong with you.

Well, they have traditionally been aligned with the "axis of evil" countries the NWO has continually tried to take out.

The CIA/NSA/FBI, the FSB/KGB/SVR, the MSS, Mossad all the same shit. Sure they are enemies with eachother that doesn't make them our friends. They all want to use you and get away with it by ANY means necessary.

Why do you think these groups ALL infiltrate grassroots organizations and try to turn them violent to turn the public against them? No government is a friend of mine. No matter what.

KGB

Update needed.

Sorry, still running Windows 3.0. This dial-up is taking forever to update to Windows 10.

You're right, except the KGB is definitely aligned against the rest. Just look at Ukraine, they were working directly against each other.

The British, American, and Israeli intelligence are definitely aligned. Shit, the British basically founded our intelligence.

you're wrong about the KGB, it does not work for global capitalism, nor does putin, which is why the oligarchs fled. they went to war with capitalist oligarchs who plundered russia in the 1990's. one reason putin is despized is because he reclaimed russia's natural resources for the country as public goods.

the KGB is espionage for sure, but has always been more about supressing citizen uprisings and protests. they've always acted more like stazi than the CIA.

if you want to meet the russian members of the "nwo,c come down to south, FL, sunny isles to be exact.

the "nwo" is global capitalism, the illuminati mainstay famlies are all the decsedants of the "first to market" nascent 18th and 19th century capitalists and their bankers, which were/ the linchpin of global capital.

"nwo' was i tially about toppoling the "owo" of landed, hetedity, agrarian wealth (in france officialyl referred to as tge "ancient regime"), and them morphing on purpose into the inverted totlaitarian facism it is today, in which democracy is a managed sham to legitimate our corporatist govt.

people like the clinton are not the illuminati, they are the illuminati's lackies. they are constantly tested for their effi acy and the fealty.

do you know what the american flag is?

it is the battle flag of the british east india company. the flag had been in use here since 1707.

the besty ross story is as apocryphal as washington and the cherry tree.

washington marched under the EIC flag.

fun fact: the 13 stripes were always on the flag. the this number matched the number of colonies in 1776 was just a funny coincidence, out of which grew the folktale we all know today.

the flag remained unchanged until the union jack in its upper left corner was replaced by stars on a feild of blue in the 1790's, because people started to object to having the union jack on the flag, because it made them look like they were still a part of britain.

http://www.raymazza.com/blog/the-little-known-origin-of-the-american-flag

Didn't know that about the flag. I'll look into that.

My point still stands though, these groups are made to undermine the people and foment fear and division. Even if they are anti-CIA they are no friend of ours.

oligarchs fled?

The idea of government is fucked up when you keep peeling away the layers of our reality.

If you think that Russia and China are against the NWO

Who is saying that about China?

Believe me i've saw reports about China is against the NWO. I've even saw reports about North Korea being one too.

If you believe in this something is wrong with you.

I've even saw reports about North Korea being one too.

This is actually really interesting to me. I have some suspicions this may be correct, at least on some levels.

Do you have any good sources?

Go to global research or new eastern outlook. There are lots of stuff calling Communist countries as heroes there.

I believe they were the ones who were responsible for making this "Communists countries are against the NWO" Bullshit in the alt media.

it's nice of them to make cheap junk for the NWO then if they are so against them

They are in fact used by the NWO to end the economy of America and other western countries. You know one of the reasons why America is this poor? It was de-industrialized.

One idea is that Russia and China, the Islamic powers and the anglo-american elites, have their own nwo agenda, doesn't mean they are all aligned in every policy, but nevertheless, the people are fucked

If you think that Russia and China are against the NWO there is something wrong with you.

I think Russia is against them. China has different ideas of where they should go.

And clearly, there is something wrong with me.

He's not part of Builderberg/CFR/Trilateral Commission, so that gives me some hope.

The MSM hates him and is trying everything they can to make you hate him too, so that gives me hope.

This site is trying hard to censor or out-shout his supporters, so that gives me hope.

The enemy of my enemy is my friend, I hope.

Two words. Reverse psychology.

Does that mean people should've voted for hillary? To outwit the reverse psychology?

Lol

No, just to show you the illusion of choice. It was good cop bad cop with both working for the same team. No matter who we picked, we were screwed.

elites have backup plans for plan Bs for last resorts. Even if Bernie had somehow become prez he's a Zionist so nothing would change.

The druid lady wasn't bad. :)

Good point. We have to be wary of this possibility, and always stay on our guard.

hope

I remember some other guy who was campaigning on hope. What was his name again...?

Bobama

Semantics. I can argue the details, but good catch. In any event

I'm not trying to pick at you. I'm just saying to tread carefully when you put your hope into those people. I get this sense that Trump is to the angry middle white class what Obama was to the poor blacks. This feels like 2008, just with the positions reversed.

Could be, no doubt. But too much HUGE shit is surfacing. The tides are changing

The MSM hates him and is trying everything they can to make you hate him too, so that gives me hope

This one was particularly interesting to me, and really threw me into his camp. It wasn't the usual moderate bias against the Republican, like we saw with Romney.

They threw everything into hating Trump, even destroying their own credibility in the process. That was unprecedented, because it genuinely hurts the regime for the MSM to lose credibility.

Without a way to fool us into obedience, they'll have to resort to force. That will end in revolution

regular Bilderberg attendee

Source?

The TLC and CFR are not stupid either. They know if they have another puppet in play they need distance as they suffered way too much attention during Bush.

The true power lies in the shotcallers anyway. Wouldn't be surprised if half of them are just padding to make the group more distinguished, less controversiable.

The current mods, after ousting the old mods, have connections to the_donald.

This sub has become a state sponsored establishment propaganda department.

I've been trying to tell people this, but keep getting the shutdown. The fact that the conspiracy community is "supporting" a politician is some seriously rank BS. "Trust no one" is the motto!!

I've been trying to tell people this,

For the 9 hours your account has been active?

For longer, under other accounts. Now, he's about to take actual power. So, I made a new account that doesn't link to me as quickly.

WRECKT!

theyve definitely created two opposing narratives it doesn't allow for nearly any discussion in between.

If u argue against Trump it will associate you with CTRs handiwork which did a number.

At the same time if u are only focusing on Trump the question then is why are u not pushing the Clinton angle because there is proof of real crimes in public domain. If she is not prosecuted u may as well just accept whatever fake narrative they push forever.

Clintons crimes will red pill people. There is copious evidence. This line of inquiry should not be dropped whatsoever.

This sub has become a state sponsored establishment propaganda department.

You think it wasn't before?

I've been here for a long time. The sub does this with every transfer of potus. Some people like to keep an open mind and wait for something to dig into.

Digging into the Obama/Hillary/media narrative that Trump is a Russian plant just seems like a waste of my time.

Albeit, this sub did receive a larger transformation during this transfer of Potus, but that is because CTR took over other subs, and where they didn't take over, alternative news (the only news actually reporting on Trump) is viewed as conspiracy garbage. So, what we found is people with fringe news sources being pushed here for discussion.

There is nothing nefarious happening.

Pence & Podesta both backed Hastert. Clinton & Trump both close friends of Epstein.

Ya. We have problems.

I can still hope. Doesn't mean I have any faith.

I am not a trump supporter despite voting for him cuz what choice did I have..

I fully expect him to do more to piss me off than not.

But he did win on an anti establishment populist message.

I'll give him a chance to go to war with the fake news MSM, lobbyist power in Washington, etc..

After being burned by Obamas populist message I don't have much hope. We will see.

Good perspective, I like it. Too many people try to make everything absolute. That's just not how things are, though, everything is relative. And relative to our other choice, I think most would agree that the right candidate was chosen based on his message.

And the incredible amount of scrutiny that he gets gives me hope that he will at least be held accountable for the shitty things he does. Like you said, we'll see.

OP doesn't want to wait for President Trump to start doing anything.

He wants to tell us how to think and define what we are with his labels right now.

time is now, criticize trump, pressure him not to sell out. he's goldman sachs controlled!

I'll eat crow if wrong but not holding my breath.

W sold out, disappointed his voters. Obama the same. At some point we wake up and stop getting fooled.

Who are you in charge of to dictate what fellow conspiracy theorists presumes ?

People even believe God exits without proof or evidence for goodness 's sake. Stop telling people what to believe what not to.

How DARE you disrespect the Grand Poobah of the Order of the Tin Foil Hats!

:)

Establishment types will pose on the internet as russians and radicals, recruiting useful idiots to their collectivist Soros cause, therefore the conspiracy theory mindset you so desire to rally against trump should be focused for the time-being on Soros, as his collectivists try anything they can to disrupt American efforts to help the lower classes out from under the boot of the establishment.

Soros attempted to overthrow the government of Russia. How does this make any sense?

I've seen posts like this about 10x as much as I've seen any positive trump posts. No listen for a second. We don't come up with conspiracies about whoever is in power just for shits and giggles, we are here to seek truth and truth only. If you have a legitimate theory, great lets investigate, but insisting on the existence of a conspiracy without actually presenting one is just as bad (if not worse) than ignoring a blatant conspiracy. Everything you mentioned is only relevant if truth is not your prime objective.

But we also never see negative Trump posts. And the one welll written conspiracywith plenty of proof about how Trump was meeting with a Russian offical was removed by the mods and never reposted. No wonder this sub buries its head whenever Russia and Trump is involved, yall are exactly like how /r/politics is with pedophiles

I don't care about the lack of negative trump posts, don't tell me that there should be unless you can compile a decent post yourself, whats your point?

Yes this post is pointless, but so has every thread the last two weeks. Ever since the fuck boys at the_donald took over this sub has become a clickbait clinton bashing, bernie dick riding sub. It's fuckin' ridiculous, we've discussed all this shit 6 months ago, yet every day we see stupid clickbait articles at the front page that provides nothing new and isn't even a conspiracy. "Clinton lost because she fucked over Bernie" Says CIA or "Clinton Foundation is still, we should really have the govt investigate!!"

It's getting annoying seeing the same 3 articles posted on the front page with different words and no new evidence, Clinton bashing-Bernie riding-Pizzagate article with nothing new and then rinse and repeat.

Not to mention the one well written conspiracy about Trump with a shit load of proof was removed from the sub entirely (Hmmmmm wonder why????) While I've seen zombie conspiracies with no more than two paragraphs of speculation stay up, or the fact that we have a fucking discussion thread here about Trumps speech. This whole sub is a fuckin' joke now

No, there's probably not much negative Trump posts here, and THATS A BREATH OF FRESH AIR. If you want mindless anti-Trump propaganda, visit r/all and click on literally any sub. BPT, technology, hell r/trees. The whole site is anti-Trump. I know better that to eat what this bought and paid for site is trying to feed me.

EXACTLY

Dr. Strangelove or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Trump

I was pretty sure we were almost all in agreeance that ever candidate was either Manchurian, OR a lizard. Then the Golden Child comes along, and suddenly I'm supposed to believe he's different? Nahhhhhhhhhhhh cmon. He's either Manchurian, or a Lizard. Just like the rest of em. Maybe he's a nice Lizard! I'm not trying to say anything good or bad either way about the guy... just, that the expectation on us conspiracy friends, has reeeeally been different this time.

Nope. You think everyone believes in Lizard Overlords? LOL

Lizardperson confirmed.

He's the Siberian candidate.

Don't know why people up voted this stupid comment.

because they got the joke.

Yes, let's joke about serious situations in /r Conspiracy

I am all for keeping an open mind with Trump, who I did not vote for. I think we will know which way things are going within a month and it is out of our hands right now anyway so I can wait a month. I am pessimistic but have not given up all hope yet.

I am all for keeping an open mind with Trump

Which we should do. We genuinely don't know what he will do. We know what he is saying, and a few of his actions.

He could be literally Hitler (I doubt). He could be Ronald Reagan (I think). He could be Kennedy (I hope), in which case he will end up dead, and we'll have a golden opportunity to overthrow the Deep State.

Yeah that ship sailed when he put 5 Goldman-Sachs employees in his cabinet. Now he could be Nixon or the Heritage Foundation.

Yeah that ship sailed when he put 5 Goldman-Sachs employees in his cabinet.

Have you studied the transition much? Do you know what options were available, which would actually pass the Senate? Do you know what conversations happened behind closed doors?

I'm not ecstatic about it, but it's not like he could put Ron Paul in charge of the Fed. There are limits to what one can accomplish without being assassinated, and so far Trump looks like someone who is at the good end of the establishment.

Agenda at play, all day.

Fuck the Government and the current system in place. I defaulted to a "Trump Supporter" because I fucking hated Hillary. I still think Trump is a dumb-fuck and we shout def scrutinize him.

The only thing I am happy about his presidency is that there is a non Washington outsider in office. He is part of the elite, he is not the 99%, but the part that puts a smile on my face is all the but-hurt Dems and Repubs who are pissed that someone who hasn't put in a lifetime in Washington is taking office.

Other than that, Fuck the Establishment that is currently in charge !

Fuck the Establishment that is currently in charge !

There's the important part. Fuck them right in the ass.

Realistically this could be one larger psyop. Which they expected and executed perfectly.

Will have to see what he does but the whole "we aren't happy" routine is old if there's no actions behind it. And legitimately I think a few groups are really wondering wtf is gonna happen to their cash streams. But it appears its biz as usually with big biz and banks.

That meeting he had I can only imagine them telling him if he doesn't play ball the economy would be sunk and a hostile takeover would happen shortly after. To see the result of economic warfare just look at Venezuela.

I think that Trump was a perfectly executed psy-op. The way he was built up in the MSM with all that free and really unwarranted and irrational (appearing) exposure made no sense except as being part of a psy-op. The MSM knows full well the value of all that airtime and exposure they were giving him. It was not accidental, especially when you could flip between FOX, CNN and MSNBC and they would all be showing the same thing. That is what made me suspicious that something was afoot.

I am first and foremost of a conspiracy mindset, but I am choosing to wait and see here. That does not mean I will in any way discourage any honest efforts to investigate Trump.

I don't think Trump is the second coming, and some of his plans, appointments, and choices of allys are highly questionable. The only reasons he interests me is I am almost positive he was not expected to win by tptb, is somewhat of a maverick among his own kind, and has shown himself to be conspiracy minded himself.

Conspiracy theorists first and foremost look out for those that think they decide what they should question.

It is extremely interesting that you try to define it, just like libtards define racists and sexists and other labels to fit their narrative.

Do you belive you are smarter than all people who you belive are liberal?

Can you even define what liberal means in your own words without cheating over to a dictionary website? Do you even know what the latin root, from which the word liberal is derived, actually means?

Do you even understand what the agenda is that you are serving? Do you think it is useful to be one of the divided and unwashed?

You just don't sound like you are smart enough to be someone who should be labeling liberals and progressives as 'tards'.

You sound like you really just don't get it yet and need to evolve your thinking a bit more in order to really be helpful.

Stop being an idiot libtard.

I am actually more of a Socialist who does not really identify as a modern liberal from a socioeconomic standpoint.

I also found your analysis of the primary motivation of what you define as a Conspiracy Theorist to be very illuminating. What led you to your hypothesis?

To be fair, this is only a result of the last few decades.

It used to be, most Americans generally trusted the government, and the government generally acted in their best interest. These are generalizations, to be sure, but they were generally true.

Politics was fun, and a hobby for those who were interested. If the other team won, you might be sad, but you knew they were Americans that generally shared your values. We had bad decisions at times, and some bad politicians, but the system generally worked ok.

Nowadays, people are taking time off of work because their candidate lost their election. They genuinely believe life will fall apart, and their friends will be put into camps.

It's a result of:

  1. Campaigns to create partisan division
  2. The government being so fucked up for so long

Amen brotha!

I upvote anti Trump posts.

And this sub seems to have turned into /r/the_donald

This is some kind of mantra I've seen around here lately, but honestly, no it hasn't come close. I see WAY more people literally posting your comment verbatim, complaining about this sub being TD 2.0, than I actually see Trump circle jerkers. But that's propaganda 101, just keep saying it over and over and over

How do you explain anti-trump posts getting deleted?

I haven't seen that. Do you have any source? My inclination is to not believe you

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Well it says the original post was removed to a misleading title and heavy brigadier, which I'm sure you already knew. That changes nothing I've said, honestly

They wouldn't delete posts, no matter who it's about, if a certain group of assholes didn't consistently link their anti-trump posts in politics, trumpspam, subredditdrama, conspiratard, etc.

When it gets obviously brigaded, even to the point that people in other subs are admitting that's how they got to the post, it gets deleted.

Every other subreddit on this site is allowed to delete posts that are being brigaded and ban users who are encouraging brigades except for this subreddit for some reason.

So when the post gets deleted, what does the person do? They go over to politics, subredditdrama, or enoughtrumpspam and cry and complain that they are being censored, that this subreddit has turned into t_d because apparently Trump supporters aren't allowed to post here.

Then someone makes another post. Which again gets linked over and over again in those subreddits. Without the np link, by the way. When the post gets downvoted by the regular users here because we actually see what the fuck these people are doing, they start whining that they're being brigaded by t_d and Russians.

How are people still bringing this shit up like it's somehow a problem with this sub??

The only problem are the people who whine and link their post on subs that specifically hate this subreddit when it doesn't get the amount of upvotes they think their post should get.

The problem is with the people who, instead of downvoting a somehow "pro-trump" post and simply moving on like a normal user of this subreddit with no bullshit agenda, decide to make posts and comments over and over again that this sub has been taken over by Trump supporters. Like they're trying to drill into everyone's head that people who voted for Trump aren't allowed to post here or anywhere but t_d really.

It's the same shit people are saying all over reddit. It doesn't look like anyone is actually genuinely concerned that any sub is being taken over by Trump supporters. It looks more like people are trying to convince everyone else that Trump supporters need to stay in their own sub and never support or defend the president that they voted for when they see blatantly fake news or outright lies.

It's fucking bullshit. Everyone's allowed to fucking post here provided you're not here purely to start shit. Stop trying to convince people Trump supporters have to stay in their own subreddit.

I didn't even vote for Trump and I can see right through all of the bullshit that's actually taking over this sub.

I'm about as pro trump a it gets, but i was everything that fits under the 'conspiracy theorist' umbrellas do way if thinking long before that, and will always be.

The headline is self-contradictory

All we know is we have removed the chance for evil to be in power.

Now we need to figure out if evil has re entered.

I think it's more along the lines of a constant conflict over the thought that the world each side believes in could be wrong. Everyone should remain neutral for this reason. You could work together if both sides weren't so sure they were correct.

there is no such thing as a conspiracy theorist, that is a sort of fictional schizo clown people who know how to think are made to look like in totalitarian systems such as ours

the entire idea of a citizen being able to question an official story is seen like a plague by the rulers

we are not theorists, we are journalists, teachers, scientists, philosophers, politicians, writers and abovevall citizens with rights

every time you even use the phrase conspiracy theorist you are giving then your power and willingly let them dress you up like boxo the clown

so stop

Today, with Trump, we had a change of oligarch hands pulling the strings. Nothing more, nothing less.

Trump answers to someone else, and we liberals are dumb if we think the handlers are all the way out in Russia.

Oh, you again.

Do you have any other narratives to push, or just this one?

It's healthy for the public to criticize and question its government. Never forget that.

Lol...obviously you havent been following this subreddit very long. This place gobbles Trumps and Putins balls like its going out of style.

Evidence, lets see some evidence.

I agree that we can not let off the ring of power. We know all it can do is destroy no matter the intentions. With that said, after what we just went through for the past 30 years of the same pieces of shit with the same shitty policies, I think we deserve at least 100 days of hope.. After the first 100 days, it's game on... for me

Trusting in the government is unAmerican.

That's where you are wrong, Kiddo.

I think the "wait and see" mindset is reasonable in this situation. Its possible to analyze what he has said and who he has picked for his cabinet, but these are little more than ad hominem arguments. Leave the nitpicking everything Trump does to the democrats.

Every day of his administration is additional evidence.

I'll give them a chance when we start acting like a civil government...When justice is served and Podesta, Most of the Bush/Clinton/Rockefeller/DuPont and every other crook gets locked up and the key is thrown away.

We need to stay on top of trump.

Figure out his connections, who he is closest to.

It can help piece tougher who is in the background making the calls.

Until we can name them, find them, and bring justice to them, ALL, we should never stop scrutinizing.

Two words. Reverse psychology.

Well, they have traditionally been aligned with the "axis of evil" countries the NWO has continually tried to take out.

hope

I remember some other guy who was campaigning on hope. What was his name again...?

If you think that Russia and China are against the NWO

Who is saying that about China?

One idea is that Russia and China, the Islamic powers and the anglo-american elites, have their own nwo agenda, doesn't mean they are all aligned in every policy, but nevertheless, the people are fucked

The MSM hates him and is trying everything they can to make you hate him too, so that gives me hope

This one was particularly interesting to me, and really threw me into his camp. It wasn't the usual moderate bias against the Republican, like we saw with Romney.

They threw everything into hating Trump, even destroying their own credibility in the process. That was unprecedented, because it genuinely hurts the regime for the MSM to lose credibility.

If you think that Russia and China are against the NWO there is something wrong with you.

I think Russia is against them. China has different ideas of where they should go.

And clearly, there is something wrong with me.

Fuck the Establishment that is currently in charge !

There's the important part. Fuck them right in the ass.

That's stupid. Anyone could just google an image of a hand holding a US passport. Were you gonna do some fucking cyber forensics on it?

regular Bilderberg attendee

Source?

Realistically this could be one larger psyop. Which they expected and executed perfectly.

Will have to see what he does but the whole "we aren't happy" routine is old if there's no actions behind it. And legitimately I think a few groups are really wondering wtf is gonna happen to their cash streams. But it appears its biz as usually with big biz and banks.

That meeting he had I can only imagine them telling him if he doesn't play ball the economy would be sunk and a hostile takeover would happen shortly after. To see the result of economic warfare just look at Venezuela.

The TLC and CFR are not stupid either. They know if they have another puppet in play they need distance as they suffered way too much attention during Bush.

The true power lies in the shotcallers anyway. Wouldn't be surprised if half of them are just padding to make the group more distinguished, less controversiable.

Could be, no doubt. But too much HUGE shit is surfacing. The tides are changing

Without a way to fool us into obedience, they'll have to resort to force. That will end in revolution

I don't care about Trump supporters. I care about dicksucking and blindly worshipping