Good riddance to bad rubbish... I'm starting to think all these accounts that announce that this sub has turned into the T_D2.0 and then gracelessly quit forever all belong to the same guy.

I'm glad they kept this little "script" in the playbook... it is hilariously obvious and always good for a chuckle.

They pretty much all are from the same entity. Shareblue/CTR: https://mobile.twitter.com/BestPepes/status/825825796170403840

Dude, you're the last person to be complaining about a script or narrative manipulation, you pop up in almost every single comment chain. You're probably one of the largest causes of the cancer that is causing people like OP to leave. You throw out the same idiotic accusation ceaselessly.

I don't even know what kind of person it would take to have these views, given that you aren't trolling. You're one of the most paranoid, alarmist, fearful idiots I've ever encountered. One of the only users to spew more bullshit than /u/333tttbbb, and he deleted his account right around the time that pizzagate was revealed to be a fit of internet aspergers.

You use his same type of argument, too, repeat the same thing over and over again until it seems like the entire sub is saying the same thing. This is a tactic of idiots, and is only useful on idiots. You need a new playbook.

Removed. Rule 4 & Warning.

I stole this from another users post, but its relevant in these types of threads

Step 1. Claim you miss the "real sub"

Step 2. Attempt to stir up division by claiming this is now T_D 2.0

Step 3. Apply this formula anywhere on this sub you see the words Obama, Trump, or Pizza.

Step 4. Claim anyone who disagrees with you is a shill

This is the pattern folks.

They sometimes throw a "mods are compromised" accusation in there, too.

This is a conspiracy sub. Why is that accusation considered a joke to you?

Yeah, that injection of 40 mil into the new CTR is really showing on reddit. I'd bet that media matters leak is half the reason this guy is saying this sub is dead.

What do you to do

Don't let the door knock your ass into the mud on the way out, loser.

K.bye

Ok then, have fun friend

where are you going to?
if you find a good alternative, pm me.

problem is, if we give up the fight, we might as well not be here in the first place. stay strong, downvote in ./new/ and ignore. that's my current plan.

What you've picked up on (unknowingly) is that the Illuminati have two different categories of propaganda.

They have the official lies aka 'political correctness, equality etc.' and then they have the unofficial lies 'we need a war on 'x,y,z non-white group' etc.

The goal for the elite is to eventually replace the official lies with the unofficial lies.

Donald Trump is a key milestone in this agenda...

"The goal for the elite is to eventually replace the official lies with the unofficial lies." at this point does it really even matter anymore? People cannot tell the difference, or they dont care.

Are you by chance bipolar? Your post history goes from being on donalds side to becoming like this. Hmm. Ok.

Could be a hijacked account

That's not bi polar, that's regret

Ok shillshillverstain

You forgot to say cuck

Ya sorry shillshillverstain the cuck. Does that suit you?

/r/conspiracy takes to gaslighting.

Fuck Trump

happy?

It is better to light a single candle than to curse the darkness

Not if the dumb fucks keep blowing out the candle.

Hey shill, nice try. Haven't posted in a year and suddenly come back after CTR is renewed?

https://www.scribd.com/document/337535680/Full-David-Brock-Confidential-Memo-On-Fighting-Trump

This sub is dead because I say it is

Adios amigo

OP on some high horse ass nonsense in my humble

so much tldr imho.

it wasn't even that long. or did you not take your adderall this morning?

I only believe things I can project.

Because you're not logical.

I completely understand the difference my young friend. Keep telling yourself that people who are effective at projecting are always ignorant, it's going to leave you disappointed and outplayed. Logic is one of many tools in life. Humans are not naturally predisposed to acting logically, so it is naive to think you can communicate with logic alone and achieve anything on a political scale. But that's not even the funniest part of your little comment, as I'm confident what you wrote is 99% projection based on what I wrote in this comment. You're telling yourself that you're above the cretins, when really you're just as ignorant as the idiots on both sides who think there is a battle between logic and emotion. Its a battle between underlying ideologies, where both sides use multiple tactics.

I completely understand the difference my young friend. Keep telling yourself that people who are effective at projecting are always ignorant

I will, because they are, and I'm not very young.

Interesting for you to choose the argument of "logical and not," as if it were actually some wide gulf that separates the enlightened from the "ignorant" along the ideological spectrum. The fact that you're not young and naive while submitting such an argument seems more telling than someone's preferred candidate this election, no?

Stay here bro. We need you now more than ever

I think the reason this sub is so confused about Trump is that he is so being so blatantly attacked in the MSM that it lends credibility to his claims to be "anti-establishment". He also employed rhetoric that would naturally appeal to conspiracy theorists. His failure in the election seemed inevitable, and then he won.

I get why you think that Trump's rise is simply a new stage in the the game. And I don't just mean objections that fit within the realm of normal politics. There are some clues in that direction, but as I'm alluding to above, there are clues in the other direction as well. His rhetoric might be empty, though it would be a strange strategy to even try to appeal to conspiracy theorists. I could go into more detail, but my point is that at this stage there is a degree of uncertainty about what Trump represents. That uncertainty diminishes all the time.

I have some tests I'm waiting to see whether he passes.

1. Will there be disclosure? I'm especially thinking of 9/11, but also of the fact that the Kennedy files are supposed to be released this year. I also care about disclosure of recent CIA operations in Syria. If he doesn't disclose that's bad, but maybe just a practical and strategic decision. I'm more concerned that he discloses and pins the blame on just the Saudis and uses it as a pretext for expanding a hot war in the Middle East.

2. I'm also watching out for a false flag. He has set himself up in such a way that his scheme would "benefit" from an Islamic terrorist attack, i.e. the typical false flag pretext for doing something you wanted to do anyway. Now, that doesn't mean I'll judge any terrorist attack to be a false flag—there are actual Islamic terrorists—but I'll be looking for it. If his "new regime" is still willing to employ that evil tactic, then you know the whole thing is a lie.

Honestly, I don't have a lot of reason to be optimistic about Trump, but even his opponents have to admit that he has been very unpredictable and has produced some real surprises.

Trump is not anti-establishment. He's just revolutionizing the establishment. He's getting rid of some of the facade and bringing the establishment into the fold. Some of his established cabinet appointments are brought forward with disdain. Steven Bannon is now openly part of the security council, which I'm pretty sure in past presidencies there were also very much uncredentialed figures in the highest decision making forums of the government. Trump is just being open about it.

This is what I worry about too.

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If you couldn't see the entire establishment (career politicians, pollsters, former presidents, mainstream media, social media) all against him then you didn't see the threat he posed to their system.

To be fair, they very much admitted he was a threat, but for different reasons. Most "intelligent" people who disagree seem to complain about his lack of experience first and foremost, and how it's not easy to start off as president in politics. Obviously he at least appears to the conspiratorially inclined as a threat to a LOOOONG term plan there was for the world, but the average Joe doesn't get that at all.

You also probably believed all the cooked polls where they over polled democrats by 30-40% just to make it seem like Hillary had a clear lead.

Well I mean they over-sampled primarily, and there was the very legitimate phenomenon of such public negativity to Trump supporters that they wouldn't answer pollsters. That is a very interesting psychological/social exercise by itself - I honestly think the pollsters didn't do it on purpose per-se.

I honestly think the pollsters didn't do it on purpose per-se.

Sorry, but we have the Podesta leaks where that EXACT purpose was all planned out. You're not fooling anyone.

Sorry, but we have the Podesta leaks where that EXACT purpose was all planned out. You're not fooling anyone.

Yeah they admitted they oversampled minority demographics from the Podesta leaks, it's definitely shady no doubt. All I'm saying is their polls were SO wrong that they even seemed to surprise the Dem's themselves (eg. the Blue Wall states switching) and hence some of the poll error is from nefarious causes, some is from genuine error from an interesting social phenomenon.

they admitted they oversampled minority demographics

Yes, for their internal polls and it happened in 2008, do you not pay any attention to the shit you're told? The way this sub just blindly accepts whatever suits their preconceived notions is fucking astounding considering this is a conspiracy sub. You people were played like a fiddle and you wear it like a badge of pride.

We're both on the same page man, nobody was played like a fiddle. Clinton is headed to jail, not the White House. I'm just saying there was ALSO an interesting social dynamic of Trump supporters that was somewhat new and that if they had such ability to masterfully manipulate polls, they should have known they were losing Wisconsin etc. and had an event there. I'm just saying it's more likely the poll fiasco was a case of total corruption + incompetence.

This is a lie.

I already sourced my other comment champ. Your astroturfing isn't fooling anyone.

lack of experience first and foremost

Lack of experience is being a one term senator.

you also probably believed all the cooked polls where they over polled democrats by 30-40% just to make it seem like Hillary had a clear lead.

Honest question here. If the polls were "cooked" why does it make any sense that Hillary's camp was responsible for that? If your candidate is not performing well in polls, you don't want to overstate a lead because it risks making some of your supporters stay home because they feel "safe" that you'll win.

It's equally probable that those pulling the strings behind Trump wanted her numbers to be over-sampled to lower her voter turnout.

If the polls were "cooked" why does it make any sense that Hillary's camp was responsible for that?

Because we have the Podesta emails where they planned it out. It gives them an edge, keeping uninformed opponents in a low energy "why bother" mindset. Fortunately, their opponents were neither uninformed nor low energy. You're not fooling anyone.

Because we have the Podesta emails where they planned it out.

This is a lie.

Seriously. Guy clearly didn't read any of the emails.

https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/26551
Debunk, then.

https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/26551
Debunk, then. Otherwise, shut the fuck up with your lies.

You edit just proves it, this is internal polling and it's from January of 2008. You don't understand the first thing about elections and here you are making accusations. It's really pathetic how you just blindly accept what you're told without the slightest bit of thought.

It proves oversampling is done specifically for the purpose that I stated, and not only did they do it, they instructed others to do it. Nowhere did I put a date on it. You're the only one who thinks it only happened in 2008. They literally posted the oversampling with their poll results, champ, so we know they were all oversampled, and we have this proof of their reasoning, which is timeless.

Except atlas didn't do polling for the massive number of polls that all showed her ahead. Unless you think Podesta covertly manipulated every poll in the US for a year with no one knowing. You're lying and you know you're lying.

All the polls showed their oversampling publicly, champ. This was never in question.

The Podesta emails, which are REAL, show that they use this as a political tool so they "can maximize what we get out of our media polling."

Keep flailing, snowflake.

It's very, very clear you have no idea what you're taking about at all. You've never done any work with polling or sampling, and you've accepted what you were told without the slightest bit of research or critical thought. You are a tool.

It's very, very clear that you are suffering from acute cognitive dissonance at this very moment.

They oversampled. Publicly. And not just for esoteric "how do people feel" reasons, but to specifically put leading questions and ideas into the voter base, give encouragement to their voter base, ask the most objectionable questions about their opponents to get swing voters thinking/talking about those questions, to give a sense of "why bother" to the opponents voter base, and many other biased motives.

And it bit them in the ass.

Suck it up, buttercup.

what does that link say? are you hoping people wont look at your sources

Hey, when can we meet? I also want to get your Atlas folks to recommend oversamples for our polling before we start in February. By market, regions, etc. I want to get this all compiled into one set of recommendations so we can maximize what we get out of our media polling.

What, a single mouse click is too complex of a source these days?

wat.

what really gets me is how this shitpost of a thread managed to get on the front page in less than 3 hours when the sole purpose of the thread is to discredit this sub. welcome back CRT.

My thoughts exactly

Exactly! I hope the mods and users of this sub stay strong against the wave of CTR's just reinstated by David Brock and his new $40 million organization fighting Trump.

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/01/david-brock-fundraising-trump-233974

And they immediately prove your point by down voting your post. They have low energy and no creativity. Every sub is the exact same strategies and talking points. They have such little support for their misguided vision that they have to PAY people to pretend to agree with them. Think about that.......The movement in the US has less to do with "pro-Trump" and everything to do with "anti-bullshit". I don't care which political party you support.... It's irrelevant....both sides are loaded with filth. What people in this country want is the return of morality and rule of law.......and it's coming back

I love the downvotes of CTR employees, I collect them alongside bottles of their tears as trophies. You're right, it proves beyond a doubt that CTR (or whatever they tried to change their name to) is alive and well. CTR is the most loathesome organization to anyone who ever participates in political forums and no one beside CTR themselves would ever downvote a post bashing them or their terrible political candidates.

The election is over. CTR filth is now only trying to rip society apart and encourage sedition and to save their criminal bosses. I can't wait until the new DOJ starts taking out the trash.

I'd be so embarrassed to put "loyal Clinton/Soros/Brock boot licking shill" on my resume

This Brock character has no shame. He was a conservative shill quickly turned liberal shill, a political mercenary. Why should I expect CTR people to be any different? I don't even think they are American. How could Americans accept a pittance to go online and attack and belittle other Americans all day long? How could Americans get paid to actively attempt to tear apart the fabric of American society because some billionaire would profit from our society crumbling?

I ask myself "what kind of person would..." all the time. I still don't know other than to guess that some are Really that screwed up and believe they're doing something good and others just don't care because a paycheck means that much. I have to say though, i think even the idea of getting paid to further an agenda one Actually believes in or was Actually good is still manipulation and i still wouldn't do it.

It might be worth it to try and red-pill some of these lost souls. When you suspect a CTR, ask them if they enjoy being billionaire's propaganda whores. Ask them if they know their personal information has been doxxed by 4chan, and may happen again. Ask them if they realize they are Big Brother's thought police and are helping fast-track our world becoming 1984, which will sure as shit affect them, too. I believe they are foreigners who couldn't give a shit less about America, though, I'm afraid. They certainly are anti-American either way.

If this post is downvoted, I know it's you, CTR. Look deep inside yourself, Mr or Miss CTR. Is it really worth it?

Here.. here.. the great information war continues. Conspiracy atleast has not let their admins be infiltrated by this filth and are staying strong for the most part.

All i see in this sub is either you're "The_Donald" or "CTR" shills, instead of investigating actual conspiracy shit.

Maybe, just maybe, the acting president is doing shady shit and we shouldn't just get behind it because we want to believe he's not.

Yup, but don't try to leave a goddamn trail of breadcrumbs to a witches pot

Its bait

My thoughts exactly, CTR are targeting this sub once again, they want to destroy it

You're right, there's no possible way people who vote around here could ever have different opinions than you, they must be paid CTR agents trying to discredit the sub.

Obviously

You really couldn't have proved OP's point better if you tried. Another Donald user who immediately cries shill whenever something doesn't fit the narrative, and nothing is done about it because the mods are Trump supporters themselves.

yes because its much easier to believe that someone with 164 karma and no posts for 10 months suddenly writes a bunch of rubbish about this sub can jump through to front page because everyone on this sub agrees with him. Nice try Hillary.

Yeah. It's just impossible to believe that there are millions of Americans who aren't racist pieces of shit and disapprove of Trump's actions.

Nah, they are just shills. That makes more sense....

youd almost suspect a majority of americans didnt vote for him! the same demographics that are on reddit are also the demographics that voted against trump

What part of "long time lurker" don't you understand?

Yes as long as someone writes "long time lurker" before their post that basically reads like a list of buzzwords from a Dem SuperPac they MUST be telling the truth!

the fuck are you talking about "long time lurker" has been used on Reddit long before any CTR came around.

Um, no shit. My point is that anyone can just write that before a comment, it doesn't actually mean it's true.

Lol. Preach mate.. r/conspiracy is trying to be infiltrated by Reddit's Left propaganda. And now they're crying since most are seeing they their BS.

so, not agreeing with what the sub has become, makes you a shill being paid by Clinton, basically? It's not possible to have a different opinion?

How hopeless you Trumpists are

vs say a 14 day old account gets a post to r/all ?

I'm not a donald shill...I'm curious how a supposed "Pro donald" sub, up voted the shit out of a "anti donald" post...

Either OP is way off and this isn't anything close to a "pro donald sub"..or this comment may have some merit as there isn't another plausible explanation to the popularity of this post in the sub early on

Yes, very strange thread instead, strange voting patterns, seems like CTR are here up to their tricks

Oh go fuck yourself.

Come back to me in four to five months when America gets fucking attacked. I really want to see how you justify the march toward fascism then. I'm sure you dickwads will find a way.

Oh and by the way, we WILL be attacked. Because without fear and hatred the fascists have no power.

What is going on here reminds me so much of what happened when George W was elected but worse. Then guess what? 911 happens and we lose all of our privacy and freedom over the course of the next ten years. This time will be worse, but you people are too young to remember what happened the first time.

Fuck Trump and his controllers. As much as you people want to be in his exclusive club and feel important you're not. Sadly none of you will realize it until there is a fucking boot on your throat, maybe even then you won't.

Yeah you definitely aren't reading any posts by real /r/conspiracy regulars. We are being manipulated you know.

These dummies will ban you for that.

That's fine with me, I'm close to leaving anyway.

Yeah, there is no good discussion on this sub right now.

just watch those people get fucked over you cant save them anyway

This sub has been in an imminent state of death every few months for the 5yrs I've been here.

This; most of the time it's fine then there's a period where the whole sub seems to go to shit.

That's American Bitch...i mean Bridge....now.

shill confirmed. This guy isn't even getting paid for it, he is genuinely this brainwashed and stupid. Spreading confusion and alternative facts everywhere..

Fuckboy status confirmed!

Removed. Rule 10.

I think the reason this sub is so confused about Trump is that he is being so blatantly attacked in the MSM that it lends credibility to his claims to be "anti-establishment".

That's proven wrong by the fact that Fox News is openly pro-Trump, as are many other conservative outlets, and in fact there are some outlets (Breitbart, Infowars) that are openly pro-Trump propaganda sites.

I'll concede that Fox is generally pro-Trump now that he has the power, but before he had sealed the deal on the Republican primaries Murdoch's network was clearly not very enthused about Trump—its efforts to undermine him were just less energetic than at other MSM outlets. Breitbart and Inforwars, whatever else you may think of them, are simply not MSM. Prior to the Trump phenomenon were relegated to the fringe, but they have attention as outlets of the Trump worldview now.

I am uncertain too. The MSM and CIA war on him makes me want to love him. But is that by design? Are they playing an elaborate game? Making so much noise and hyperbole over silly things so when/if he does something awful we are ignoring or disbelieving? Or is it genuinely that he isn't playing along with the rule book and freaking them all out?

So far he has been doing what he promised too. When is the last time that happened? Before they shot Reagan when he wouldn't let Bush be the actual power in the Oval office?

He made history being the first elected president or governor telling the govt employees that any dispute between govt and a person re Obamacare be decided in the person's favor. A president told them NOT to punish us or "tax" us???

Then again he says torture works. It does not and it's a gross violation of human rights endowed by our Creator. Labeling someone an enemy combatant doesn't negate their human rights or citizenship no matter what laws they pass... this support of torture is chilling.

Then he EOs something amazing I have wanted for years. 2 regulations must he removed for each new one to pass. Back to my admiring him again.

Then the creepy wall.... now I am nervous and worried. Berlin wall comes to mind. Ron Paul has said also it's more to keep us in maybe? Same as Obama sneaking the new regulations that the IRS can put a hold on our passports if THEY arbitrarily decide we owe taxes. Even $1. And all this illegal immigration and visa clamp down is to get us to swallow the national IS cards or chips or 666 stamps.

My head is spinning. And I cannot count on any MSM to report fairly. Instead I see some ridiculous piece on war with China based on unsupported and unverified rumors (they even admit).

Oh and to the OP... good riddance. If you can't see this sub is great despite us being under attack by CTR you don't deserve to be here.

Are they playing an elaborate game? Making so much noise and hyperbole over silly things so when/if he does something awful we are ignoring or disbelieving?

Maybe TPTB are making the noise and hyperbole so that if he comes out with evidence that Clinton Inc was behind ISIS, or that Bush was in on 911, no one will believe it. He's been labelled a crackpot conspiracy theorist before for his Obama birther stuff. The more the establishment tries to delegitimize and discredit him, the more it seems like he's not one of them.

I am uncertain too. The MSM and CIA war on him makes me want to love him

So a self enforced delusion?

I am totally with you, but I think your "tests" are a bit weak. He doesn't control the false flags- only his own reaction to them. And he certainly isn't the one who gets to control "disclosure". That's way above his paygrade.

And I don't think Trump has an ideology at all. He's a salesman and a brilliant marketer. He is going to cleverly market whatever whoever is running him wants to market. He'll do it through mis-direction and two steps forward one back.

logged in just to upvote this comment.

He also employed rhetoric that would naturally appeal to conspiracy theorists

Nailed it.

So when the the going gets tough, you bail amirite?

Fuck all of you.

Fuck you very much. When the going gets tough, that's the time to stand strong.

BTW, I've been here for 9+ years. I've seen the ups and downs. I've seen the controversy. I've seen it all.

The best we can do is keep on doing what we've been doing all along.

Use critical thinking. Use your votes wisely. Question things. Ask questions.

I love this place. Great Mods btw. I remember when some were posters here before they were mods.

I believe we are fighting a battle good vs evil. 2 cents. I won't back down. Cheers!

When the going doesn't make any sense anymore, you're right. Check the fuck out.

Why do you have a ten month gap in your post history where all of a sudden a month ago you started talking about conspiracy related topics yet claim to be a frequent visitor of 3 years? Why have you only made like 12 posts total in over a year?

Asking the real questions here. CTR is back baby.

You guys cherry pick the facts to fit your world view and yell SHILL! if someone points that out.

Instantly called a shill. Well done for proving his point.

Doesn't make him right. If I say "you always argue" , and you retort "no I don't!". You haven't proved my point. Much as I want to claim victory.

And you haven't made a better one by arguing. You've stated the obvious and pretended to not be a hypocrite.

I'm not sure it was obvious to the poster above me. That's why I replied. I'm not arguing per se, just pointing something out

Calling him a shill is disrespectful to shills ok. I said CTR.

I am an active reader of this sub every single day.

I have posted a time or two but for the most part I dont post.

Does that make me a CTR shill?

Sometimes when I feel the need to post something someone else has already said what I want to say, or I just decide that I'd be wasting my breath blowing into this echo chamber of nonsense.

I haven't felt like coming to this sub very much lately because its just filled with bullshit thats not worth my time reading.

-2cents

Is this a poem?

I like clear concise sentences so I space them out.

Fair enough.

haiku

Have you looked at the guys account at all? Nothing for 10 months, then mostly posting in politics.

This comment is a perfect example of confirmation bias and why you all look like a bunch of fools crying 'shill'.

1 post karma

1 post karma

I use this site as a source of reading material and not as a karma/upvote/popularity contest game.

Imaginary internet points mean nothing

i mean, the litmus test for determining whether an account is a shill or not isn't solely reliant on their post history/frequency. it's a whole number of things, mostly having to do with what they write.

a shill will always have an aim in their comments, whereas normal people are usually just speaking their mind or conveying their thoughts. some shill-like aims include: diverting attention from a particular topic, purposefully angering someone, or making a community turn on itself.

so, based on only the comment that i'm replying to, my opinion is that you're probably not a shill. you say some dividing things ("echo chamber" is a particularly charged phrase, as well as the inconsistency between reading the sub every day and not reading it lately), but the actual meat of your post is pretty reasonable: "calling someone a shill isn't a legitimate response to an argument." therefore, i would consider the probability of you being a shill fairly low.

the OP, on the other hand, made a post with the sole purpose of insulting the readers of the subreddit it's posted in. he uses a bunch of inflammatory language (neo-nazi, alt-right, "cherry pick the facts to fit your world view") but provides no examples or evidence for any of these claims whatsoever. because of this, i would consider the probability of him being a shill much higher. of course, it's never 100% because you can never know for certain, that's the internet for ya.

i don't really like talking about this very much because the question of whether or not someone is a shill is a pretty useless one, at least for non-moderators. whether or not someone is shilling, there is always a more legitimate response to their argument than accusing them of something you cannot know for certain (apart from circumstances in which there's a bunch of copypasta posts from different accounts or something). someone who doesn't tackle the argument will always play into their hands: if they are a shill, the argument is diverted and the shill looks genuine to those who may agree with them. if they aren't, then it divides the community even more. because it always ends up with a negative context, it's even very possible for shill-accusers to be shills themselves!

however, putting peoples' comments into this context ("how likely is it that they are a shill?") is an unfortunate necessity if one wishes to cleanly navigate the internet nowadays.

TL;DR i can't fault this guy for coming to that conclusion, but i can fault him for publicly stating it and not legitimately responding to the argument presented.

Well said.

thanks!

Always nice to see a week old account cast doubt on another poster due to a lack of post history.

I get banned a lot.

You must be a shitty person

People have multiple account, some delete comment history also

Pretty sure you keep your karma even if you delete your comments though.

But yeah it could just be an alt or they honestly do lurk. Not really up for us to decide.

So if someone doesn't agree with your view point he is a nazi...

Trump has been el presidente for 1 week....all this protests and hate are all manufactured and OP is called a shill cause he is a Shill. CTR are back and being funded by soros (An ACTUAL Nazi, like shit man he was a full on,literally hitler, nazi!) anyways give MAGA a chance................................ (praise Kek)

Soros is a Jew that was taken in by a nazi to save his life as a child. You think at 13 years old he should have outed himself in the middle of Nazi germany as a Jew?

Yes. The world would be a better place for his sacrifice.

anyways give MAGA a chance

Anytime you see someone asking us to “give him a chance” know that this is Trump disinfo agents pushing this talking point.

Trumps Team of (often unwitting) social media warriors are out in force in this sub.

No, President deservers to be given a chance, the fact this keeps coming up in this sub of all places is disgusting.

"Give the president a chance" on /r/conspiracy

The times theyare changing

Look at his name

Also long time lurker here.

Though I'm a semi-luddite non American. Aussie actually.

It is fucked with all the political content of late, but l get why it's here.

For me as an Aussie and as somewhat of anarchist, l like that the turd is now floating on top of the proverbial punchbowl instead of hiding underneath all the fruit. At least the world can see the turd for what it is now.

My country of origin also has issues which sadly align with American. Both our so called leaders (administrators) are wealthy oligarchial muppets with no interest in the common man/woman and with egos the size of a planet. Narcicism on steroids. And both are astute capitalist cunts.

I still lurk here for the glimmers of truth that occasionally appear and for the interesting stories from other disenfranchised humans.

It is one of the only ways we have to reach out to each other across the oceans after all 😊

How can you look at Trump and not think of Tony on steroids?

You can look at Trump and think pink fluffy flying elephants. It doesn't alter anything.

If you weren't so wilfully ignorant about the world outside your own borders you might actually learn something. Let me rephrase it for your little indoctrinated pea-brain. Tony was Trump lite and he did not last a full term. He was replaced with Malcolm who is pushing much the same agenda (for Goldman-Sachs), but puts a friendlier face on things.

Talking down to someone is not the way to get your point across.

If it's good enough for the Trumpeters that infest this place then it's good enough for me. Don't sling shit if you can't take it back.

I don't think that I did

You just made his point form him with your labels and school yard name calling.

You make such grand (and incorrect) assumptions about me, along with needless insults, that I can only conclude your assumptions on anything else to be equally baseless, fostered by your emotional state, as evidenced by your insults.

Why is it that when I try to calmly point out logical inconsistencies, I'm always met with insults and ad hominem attacks? I offered you nothing but respect. Why do you repay me this way?

You can look at Trump and think pink fluffy flying elephants. It doesn't alter anything.

What logical inconsistency did you point out?

I offered you nothing but respect.

Almost missed this bit. No, you didn't. This is double-speak, a hallmark of both Trump and Tony.

That looks, appearance, or feelings, "seems" e.t.c. make no difference to reality and often bare no relation to it, so its pointless to make an argument like yours.

Perhaps you could tell me where I showed any disrespect. Maybe I'm just unaware to it.

Reading comprehension is not your strong point. You are the only one here talking about a person's appearance. I stand by my assessment.

Tony and malcolm are ur jebs, not trump. They r typical career establishment pushing globalism and free trade deals, while selling off national assets to chinese

Take a closer look at Tony and the tactics he used to try and get his way.

Unfortunately, Trump can't be unseated by a no confidence vote

Another aussie here. Also long time lurker. You said exactly what I was thinking. Im not a good writer so I am just saying I agree with what you said.

Most of the people here probably aren't American, and almost all conspiracies have politics involved.

These posts made by OP are made by butt hurt Democrats from the US who have been doing anything and everything they can do undermine their democratically elected leader, just like they do in other countries such as Libya, Syria, Egypt, Ukraine etc.

Only difference is now they are doing it to themselves.

Fuck OP.

Watch the Steve Mnuchin opening statement. He makes very clear that the goal of Trump is to decrease the excess government: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqlyKV2TTrE

He's not one of them.

Blame reddit, and the CTR group they let take over the general subs during the election. They banned everyone with dissenting, critical or skeptical views from politics/news/etc during the election, and censored comments to keep every thread an anti-Trump echo chamber.

As a result a lot of pro-Trump people were pushed elsewhere, and T_D doesn't allow dissent either, so we have to discuss things somewhere.

"But...but...Hillary! CTR!"

Stop being such a pussy and take some fucking responsibility. The existence of Correct the Record isn't an excuse for you to come over here and circlejerk about Trump.

Why is it that Trump supporters are always the biggest pussies?

Wow, is the best you can do call people names?

When you act like a little pussy and try to blame others for your actions, you deserve to be called out.

If your feelings are hurt, go back to your safespace in T_D.

Why are you so angry?

I'm sorry, did you take me making fun of you being a pussy as being angry?

No, no, no...my appologies. I'm just stating a basic fact about you being a little crybaby who likes to hide in places where others can't make fun of you.

Removed. Rule 10.

Your next rule 10 violation will result in a permanent ban from the sub, FYI.

You are a pussy.

Based on his post history, I highly doubt /u/mikelp1973 has ever touched a pussy.

Wow...you aren't kidding. /u/mikelp1973 is a pathetic individual.

Removed. Rule 10.

Busy morning, eh?

Honestly I took yesterday and today off of work.

So at least I'm only doing one job today (all day).

Removed. Rule 10.

Removed. Rule 10.

0.03 sheckles have been shoved up your ass.

All I see is a circle jerk attacking Trump now on r/conspiracy

Why is that all Clinton supports just violent assholes?

I got my comment removed calling out OP post history yet if you read rule 10 you cant attack this sub yet this post itself is an attack on this sub. Mod JamesColesPardon reeks of ctr!

To me he is able to skirt the rules by pretending he is trying to protect the sub while slandering most of the regulars by implying it's a Donal take over.

Look at this bullshit http://m.imgur.com/FrUFL6l

Rule 10.

How is this an attack?

It looked to me like you were continuing the previous commenter's shill accusation against a mod, but on re-reading I guess I was wrong.

Rule 10.

To believe one must be pro Clinton to be anti Trump is a lazy exercise in mental gymnastics

Did you read the comment I responded to? If you did you would understand I was just mocking him.

He removed it

Removed. Rule 10.

Rule 10? Why dont you go read it then remove this post "this sub is dead"

Open your own fucking sub if you want to do that, what about that?

Most of the banning was done because users were making racist or xenophobic comments, and moderators have the right to ban them. Make one comment contrary to the narrative in TD and you'll be banned without making hateful comments

Blame reddit, and the CTR group they let take over the general subs during the election. They banned everyone with dissenting,

And now this sub is doing the same.

I agree with this sentiment. I am only sticking around to call people out for being full of shit. I am one of the 'shills'

Bye.

Someone is jealous that we solved all the conspiracies by electing our fearless leader. Don't you know America is Great Again?

But seriously, if there's one good thing about Trump's regime it will be seeing the reactions of all the idiots in the conspiracy community who actually thought Trump - a capitalist who has bought elections his entire career - was somehow an "outsider".

It's astounding how many people in this sub have fallen for the very tactics that used to be discussed here before the election.

These altwrong guys organize off site in to brigade in chat sessions via irc and discord. They have message discipline and will mass downvote anything that strays from their goals. They treat this as a media war. They have no interest in /r/conspiracy or the community that existed before. They'll chew this place up and spit it out when the sub is ruined.

Actually, I've found people are pretty critical of Trump here. They're critical of anyone not acting in the people's best interests. Not everything Obama did was good/bad, and neither is Trump. I find that there is the same conversation going on, but there is a lot more attention to it...and it seems like this sub is being flooded from time to time with shills. There are 754 people here now, there were over 5,000 here yesterday...and that's when the pro-Trump comments were happening. It's almost like it's a game being played to lose focus on some of the truth on here. This sub is not dead...it's being beaten to death by outside forces.

Slashdot, for lack of a better word, is dying.

Looking through the top posts on r/conspiracy, I can only find a handful of actual threads pertaining to conspiracies.

The rest are just random posts straight from r/t_d worded differently with no discussion value.

The real problem is that nothing of this stuff has anything to do with any kind of conspiracy. Trump or no Trump, it doesn't matter. /r/conspiracy has become some kind of political news/agenda/opinion platform.

I think they are trying to bury stuff in this sub. All the Trump pro/contra stuff is just a smoke screen imho. Come on mods, make /r/conspiracy great again!

The truth is with all the pro trump and pro hillary propaganda teaming up together to distort truth, you can no longer criticize either because it automatically labels you as a shill of the other side.

Boo fucking Hoo

You can still criticize, and make good arguments. You just have to not care about the trigger happy down voters.

It’s really strange and tbh reveals a lot about the user base of this sub.

The ethos here has always been anti-authoritarian, anti-elite, anti-corporate.

It seems that now we have an Authoritarian Elitist CEO in charge of America a lot of the people here are happy.

It tells us that during Obamas eight years, the were not in fact Conspiracy Theorists with a healthy distrust of Government, but essentially right wing bigots who hated Obama for not being ‘american’ enough.

It’s a sad day tbh, while the rest of Reddit indulges in bullshit partisan bickering my hope was that this sub would bore down to the heart of the matter. Reveal who holds power and how they use it, there are enough dodgy dealings going on already at the White House, but no, all we hear is that classic talking point Trumps camp is pushing so hard “give him a chance”.

Fuck the authority.

OP's last topic here has some overly agressive schizoid reply and no one else. Suspect both to be shilling. Another effort to discredit and illegitimize the people on this sub.

Yup just commented about this and now you gotta check every posts OPs history thats on the front page. All of a sudden these "lurkers" make front page posts calling us idiots. Very strange

Laying the ground work I suppose.

Mod of this sub just did this http://m.imgur.com/FrUFL6l trying to censor us and all I did was point out a fact

The post its self breaks rule 10 yet it somehow ends up on the front page?

reddit user for 1 year

comment karma: 3

Hitlary sacrificed

Fuck all of you

Wow

Gtfo then.

my sentiments exactly

Maybe I am not reading every comment but I always found here critque of Trump and DNC than Trump circlejerk. And if you miss intellectual discussion maybe stop ending speech with "fuck all of you"...

There's more people butching about "the_donald 2.0" than there are people talking about him.

This shit is their playbook, divide and conquer. If we are bitching about that we aren't talking about the truth.

Fuck this thread. Fuck CTR. Fuck the complainers. Don't like something? Downvote it and move the fuck on.

Wise words, will do.

Yup. Also notice that people whining about "T_D 2.0" are pro-MSM, pro-corporatism, pro-globalism, pro-TPP etc.

All things this sub has opposed for YEARS.

Did you miss how many threads which were critical of Trump and actually gained significant traction got censored by the mods?

When the MSM and CIA are aggressively pushing a conspiracy theory without presenting any evidence, it is very likely to be state sponsored propaganda. I think the mods made some hard choices for very good reasons.

Your braiwashing level: trump supporter.

You don't know the mods, you just decided that you want them to play gatekeeper for... what reason?

significant traction

Funny euphemism for "brigaded by thousands of /r/politics drones".

On one of the posts you are referencing, the mods banned about a hundred abusive commenters, most with no history of active participation in /r/conspiracy. In the end, the only realistic course of action to defend the integrity of the sub, was to take down the original post with all the hate comments. We directed users to another post on the front page which linked the exact same article.

We don't censor submissions on content, but the mods will step in to protect the sub when a post gets co-opted by large numbers of commenters whose primary objective is to attack /r/conspiracy.

Protect from what exactly? What did you fear would have happened if that thread hadn't been removed?

Hostile takeover?

Genuinely curious. What are you concerned about?

This subreddit gets flooded every day with Anti-Hillary and pizzagate posts to an extend that there's hardly anything else on the frontpage so it cannot be the quality of submissions that you worry about. .

Yes. Hostile takeover.

It is no secret that reddit can be gamed. If you have people working full time, you can make it appear as if the user base supports some idea or another.

I would rather know what the actual userbase thinks and this is impossible if a thread is being gamed.

The truth is that the reddit system is flawed. With good mods this flaw can be mitigated.

If you have people working full time, you can make it appear as if the user base supports some idea or another.

Like "Trump is good, Putin is friend"?

Whatever idea needs to be inserted in to the public consciousness to manufacture consent down the road.

Did those from /r/politics add the "unverified" tag on the Trump pissgate post? No? This is conspiracy! Every fucking thread could have that tag, but that was literally the only thread to have it attached to.

Fuck off. It's so easy to see what the mods want this sub to be, and it's Pro-Trump.

taking down a post is censorship, especially if there were any good arguments going on...

Taking down a brigade is called moderation.

Is it brigading if users come to a post from r/all?

Apparently, this sub needs to be a safe space.

Fucking thank you. The r/politics brigaders are absurd, and are "curiously" all pushing the same bullshit talking points.

/u/ Tingergod is a prime example.

The top post here right now is tasty Islam bait. No conspiracy. It's true.

You have 1500 subs doing nothing but whining about Trump 24/7 and you're going to complain about one of maybe 15 that isn't fully jumping on the "le drumpf is totes Hitler" CTR bandwagon. There are plenty of posts critical of Trump here if you look. If the fact that there are also posts that are pro-Trump and don't get removed or actually get upvoted is so problematic to the pampered pussy generation, you can go make your own liberal circlejerk conspiracy sub. I'm sure it will be filled with the petulant kids that already run 99.8% of reddit as it is in no time.

well said

You have 1500 subs doing nothing but whining about Trump 24/7 and you're going to complain about one of maybe 15 that isn't fully jumping on the "le drumpf is totes Hitler" CTR bandwagon.

Yeah, let's go take over /r/scotch because CTR isn't there and we can talk about only pizzagate.

It is not about Trump or left or right. The point is that the sub is being gamed. It started immediately after the election and is obvious to anyone that has been here for any length of time.

In the past, the discussion was nuanced and had a sense of history. Now it is just us or them, left or right. Divide, divide, divide. Real conspiracy students know this game plan and can see it happening right here.

Look at your own post: "1500 subs v 15", "pampered pussy generation", " liberal circlejerk", "petulant kids".

This insulting, divisive, pitiable tone is new here. There was, instead, intelligent discussion that understood the history of propaganda.

Here is a test for you. Take a look at this post that had 10 times the number of votes as the second post: https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/5r6dfi/rant_as_a_gay_person_i_cant_understand_why_the/

What do you think about it? What do you think about the language and framing? Try to look at it critically. What is the message?

The point is that the sub is being gamed.

Primarily by /r/politics and CTR.

I would mostly agree. However, it goes well beyond this sub. This entire website and most of the internet is being gamed and many of us are just fed up with the obvious far left bias and astroturfing from the top down, and that was going on well before the election. Yes, it's all propaganda and we're all guilty, that doesn't mean there isn't truth and lies in the mix going both ways. That said, as long as the ctrl-left can excuse assaulting and threatening conservatives and label them all "nazis" for merely disagreeing or not voting the way THEY wanted, I'm sure as hell not going to have issue insulting them with mean words. There's been quite a bit a divisiveness on this sub for years and yes, it's become much worse recently. That's to be expected given the butthurt of the election, some of Trumps proposals, in combination with the general difficulty in discussing things that can't truly be proven fact or fiction to one way or the other. We all have our own vision of what the "truth" is and NONE of us know the whole truth. Some things will come out, and some we'll never know. All we can do is look, research, and do our best to come to an well reasoned conclusion...

No offense, I really don't need to take some arrogant test for you or anyone. First of all, I don't necessarily buy the "as a gay person" lead in as fact, but who can say other than OP. Sadly, people frequently start social-justice regulated discussions with padding in attempt to have a fighting chance to be taken seriously and I'm always suspect of the "I'm one of them/you" set up. I would say the message itself is pretty clear and one that people can't even mention outside of those few subs ruled out as "hate subs" because they don't pander to the thought police.

Still, regardless of your political views I don't think it really belonged in this sub to begin with as it simply seems like just another agenda post framed as a discussion. I've had enough agenda pushing from both sides and I'd rather everyone stop, but I'm not going to lay down so the 90% liberal user base can dictate what can and can't be discussed. No one gets to simply declare themselves correct, or "on the right side of history".

Thanks for taking the time to respond.

I agree astroturfing can go both ways and I hate it in any direction. But if reddit is, as you say, 90% liberal than that is what I would expect to see. That's the natural bias of the user base. r/conspiracy has has its squabbles but the whole tone of the place changed dramatically overnight after election. It is plain to me that this is unnatural.

Also thanks for answering my arrogant test.

There are a couple things that jump out at me about that post. First, for such a short post it commits a ton of logical fallacies; begging the question being the most obvious. The agenda here is not really about gay stuff but to create a divide between the right and left. Here are some of the points that are asserted: The left doesn't see hypocrisy. The left shouts the right down. The left is brainwashed. The post isn't really about muslims or gays. Its about how the left doesn't get it.

The goal is to turn you against your fellow man; make you think he is to blame for your problems; and distract you from the real power getting rich while draining america dry.

Thanks for being capable of disagreeing or debating with someone without calling them a "nazi". Sadly, that's rare these days. There's still hope, we'll get through this... :) TC.

Cool man. All the best!

You demonstrate the problem of polarization and division well.

I've only been here for something like 6 months or so, and I have found that this place is very political and if you post something that fits the criteria, you are blasted by some fairly angry people who are either trolls, or just shitty posters.

Good luck in finding a sub thats any better than this one OP. as much as you say it's "become r/The_Donald's little play pen" there's alot of debate going on here that you wouldn't find on "The_Donald", people like you always try to find an evil villain to fight and always make the ruling elite out to me this all seeing all powerful enemy that cannot be stopped.

Truth is its healthy to have an opinion about something and discuss it in an open environment, I agree this sub has changed since you have alot of people looking for the next big story and not many sources of good information available but please don't go categorizing people for defending Trump, his actions lately provide credibility to the anti-establishment narrative and at the same time have made alot of the rich and powerful speak out against him. If this is all an act then so be it, I've yet to see some concrete proof that "everybody is in on it" as this sub eludes to constantly.

Yes Trump is an idiot, yes he's not someone I would ever want to be close friends with, but if defending his actions when they are the same actions I would do in his position is how I get labeled as part of an "alt-right" cesspool then I guess you missing the point of this sub.

It's better that you go. goodluck.

This sub is the best place I know of, CTR are attacking it using all kinds of tricks, trying to disband what they see as a Trump strong hold, telling us the sub is no good anymore. Fortunately we aren't that naive to fall for it.

They don't realize that we would turn against Trump if he didn't keep his promises of draining the swap, sorting out the vaccine industry and making friends with Russia. However not that there is any alternative, anything was going to be better than Hillary and WW3.

Trump is a manifestation of whats wrong with the world today, If anything his idiocy, bigotry and cleanup of some of the corruption is just going to pave the way for for a true leader, he is showing us just how easy it is to make an impact, it's just a pity he comes from a background of corruption, I dont think he's going to last long, but I'm hoping that when he goes down he takes alot of corrupt globalists down with him and finds a way to put a spotlight on the shadow figures lurking behind government bodies.

He won and he ain't going down. Keep crying for 8 years.

I hope you are right

Preach on brother. We seek the truth, not confirmation nor community.

See this is what I don't get. My friends are easily 80% anti trump if not more and I'm in my 30s. Almost my entire office is anti trump. Even my mom who has voted GOP her entire life hates him. He is probably the most off putting person I've ever seen speak.

And then you think everything is this organized effort but some shadowy group. People hate the guy, and you act like it's impossible to believe people disagree with you. Must be CTR. I just don't get it.

if defending his actions when they are the same actions I would do in his position is how I get labeled as part of an "alt-right" cesspool

How else do you expect to be taken?

Good luck in finding a sub thats any better than this one OP

"We've taken over. Don't let the door split you on the way out. We don't like uncomfortable opinions."

OPs post history. If you dont wanna be called a shill dont shill for Hillary than make your first post on r/conspiracy calling the sub dead. I smell a ctr concern troll

Removed. Rule 10.

Your joking right removing that comment?

Read the sidebar.

Not joking.

Read the sidebar yourself what did I do? Rule 10? Maybe you should actually re read my comment not just pick out the words you like.

Ohh I get it I made a point calling out OP as ctr and I got 6 up votes so I triggered you?

Your imaginary Internet points have no value here.

Boooo another person claiming this sub turned into the r/the_donald. Your winging does not help, it makes us look weak.

You are weak. This is one of the most easily triggered subs on the website. Just about every sliiiiightly anti-trump post in this thread is met with 'no, shill!'. That's what makes you look weak. You people are just a step above robots at this point.

pokes it with a stick

Trump as a wild outsider gives a lot of hope to people who want answers. I'm waiting for Area 51, Nazi treasures and Bigfoot to be tweeted out any day now... around 3 am.

Well do I have some good news for you ;) https://youtu.be/iOk6HB609po

Shut up. They say the same thing about No Agenda because they don't hate Trump enough. Go to r/politics for that. I've already seen anti-Trump policy stuff here that I and any regular would agree with (like Manning is a traitor).

This sub is no longer about conspiracies or finding the truth. Its become r/The_Donald's little play pen where they can exist in their fantasy world without backlash from intellectuals.

No, r/Conspiracy is half-half at this point. Posts like your spamming anti-Trump conspiracies or complaining about the r/The_Donald are the norm this day and pro-Trump perspectives are severely downvoted depending on the thread. Its the weirdest thing. r/Conspiracy has become a partisan battleground.

Someone posts these exact same whiny and contrived sentiments every day in fewer words; why does this one get up voted so high so fast?

Hypocrite cough cough

I made this exact comment on the thread about why gays shouldn't support Muslims.

Said the lurker. Why don't you post your own content?

Makes a thread about this sub being infested with Trump talk. Complains about Trump. Sounds legit.

I honestly believe Trump was propped up by the American political establishment. It's a perfect plan to divide and weaken the American people. One side will see him as the political outsider, the saviour, while the other side seems him as "literally hitler". His supporters think he is going to "drain the swamp" and dont bother to stay vigiliant or watch him objectively, the other side thinks he is a fascist dictator who can do no good. There is no room for discourse, no room for anyone in the middle the have an opinion or fit in. Everything against him is "Fake News" or "liberal propoganda" and everything for him is "alternative facts" or "alt-right" propoganda. It's complete insanity and there are no news outlets that I have been able to find that have anything close to a middle ground. This election has completely killed political discourse in America.

He was propped up by the oligarchs

Another shillary quitting r/conspiracy claiming to be a lurker. What a loss.

No need to be angry. There are many here, including me, who have known all along that Trump is part of the elite. We have stated this, and we've received lots of upvotes. I've pointed out for months that the MSM used reverse psychology to market Trump as a working class hero.

But it's true that this sub has become infested with people from The_Donald, people whose vocabulary often consists of the word "cuck" and not much else.

It's a problem, but not a big one. Keep reporting on the facts. The shills will lose, eventually.

People are making a big mistake if they think this is an influx of the_donald. This is very much a coordinated effort, and it's not an organic one. Divide and conqueror, as someone else said. I've stopped coming here. And those legitimately looking for hidden truth should too. And most will, of their own accord. Many already have. I still jump on here to check if anything has changed, and each time I see it has further devolved. The dissolution has been staggeringly rapid.

But, but, what about Killary, the pizza and the emails?

Stop talking politics

REEEEEEEEEEEEEE

If Trump was "for real", he'd immediately kick out all five Goldman Sachs megabanksters from his own cabinet. Then he'd audit and shut down the Fed. Then he'd shut down the CIA and the rest of the military industrial complex. Then he'd cut all support and all ties to the terrorist state known as Israel, the state behind 9/11. This would include shutting down AIPAC and kicking out dual-citizen Israeli/American politicians from Congress.

The fact that Trump is doing the opposite of all of this, tells me precisely how "anti establishment" he is.

And putting the public lands in ten states on the auction block isn't helping, either

I think this too then I think... they would end him.

He can stay alive and get a lot of great stuff done putting everyone off balance. It's actually a brilliant power strategy. No one knows what ro expect and we all just keep getting rocked back onto our heels.

Is he doing an elaborate balancing act? Keeping just enuff TPTB on board to keep himself from being sunk while hey tackles other things one by one?

It's a brilliant CEO that puts his worst potential enemies on his own team and keeps them juggling while he starts making changes.

Interesting user name.

Trump knows America is ass broke and so far underwater in dept that it's lost sovereignty to the bankers. The US is in statutory management.

When taking over a set of books which are full of hidden ledgers and a lot in the red, he's going to hire 'money people' to sort out the books.

On the flip side, he's also used to extracting wealth, and knowing he's handing over the country to a new owner in a few years, there's bound to be a tendency to maximise personal wealth at the expense of the 'business'.

It could go either way.

Any sub that doesn't have censorship against trump supporters must be destroyed

My brother. There's still hundreds of thousands of us who see Trump for who he is: an establishment center piece. As long as we stay here, this sub is not dead. Your post on the front page is a prime example of the life this sub still has. It seems to me like you had just came from some sort of heated debate someone here on this sub before posting this.

I think you need to consider the possibility that you're debating against people who are literally paid to spout Trump nonsense. There could be thousands of them. They could easily make you feel as though you're the minority here. You're not.

Conspiracy fatigue is my reason. Just need a break.

Down vote and move on. You aren't required to read every thread.

it's only resting, it wants to go for a walk.

just because the sub is gamed, means you go home.. that's what they (you?) want.

I read about 5 lines. Good riddens.

It seems that now we have an opinion or fit in.

I've watched this sub change over the past 6 or 7 years. It's disgusting these days and I'll never understand how some of the smartest and equally paranoid people can validate DJT.

I like the fact that DJT is stirring shit up.

He may or may not be a puppet to TPTB but alot of shit that we conspirators have been complaining about is going to change now because of this election.

If Donald Trump brings about total ruination of our political scene then we can rebuild it.

If he doesn't ruin everything he might just fix some stuff.

Regardless of the outcome change is actually coming for once.

Unfortunately politics and conspiracies go hand-in-hand

And when that stuff is shared on the Internet people are going to have their opinions... unfortunately

I wish these type of posts would include some type of arguments supporting the conclusion that he is a part of the globalist agenda.

Do you have examples of "neo-nazis" you claim are populating this sub or any upvoted comments or posts in that nature?

"You ever think for a fucking moment that you are being played?"

Of course. Do you think you are the first person to raise this concern on this sub? I can't speak for anybody else but I am extremely concerned that there will a revelation or incident proving that he is just another puppet playing his role.

I would suggest that if you are genuinely concerned with this you try using other methods of argument than yelling at people to fuck off.

The possibility remains that you are right, however the fact remains that nothing so far has conclusively proven or even indicated that you are. If there was you would mention these things in your rant.

In my opinion posts like this that don't offer any new evidence or insights, but simply general conjecture based on nothing tangible while showering abuse at a group of people arguing a certain view-point, that is what is killing this sub.

Labeling those you disagree with as "neo-nazis" is contradictory to your stated desire for this to be a "safe-haven of free-thought".

And do you realize that writing "Peace" at the end of a hateful rant does not make it any less hateful. Especially if it's preceded by the words "Fuck all of you"

Wow what a shill

Good bye.

Donald Trump's campaign ran a very sophisticated social media operation that astroturfed lots of online communities in favor of Trump. They did this with the white supremacy community, they did with his conspiracy theorists, and with regular "conservatives." The posters on r/conspiracy don't want to admit this for 3 reasons:

1) Many of them are paid shills

2) They are dumb enough to actually believe that Donald is anti-establishment

or

3) They are scared to accept that the establishment is so smart and strong they can even infiltrate the conspiracy theory movement.

By installing the Donald, they have a useful puppet (Donald is clearly a narcissist doing whatever his advisors tell him) and they are killing the free-thought/conspiracy community because it has now completely discredited itself. Kills two birds with one stone. Brilliant.

Projection............Is that still a strategy? Please enlighten us to the pro-Trump organization that is paying "shills". Is that Media Matters? I heard they just put 40 million into anti-American "shills"? Does David Brock secretly support Trump? Now that would be a conspiracy.......

Please enlighten us to the pro-Trump organization that is paying "shills".

U.S. intelligence agencies believe that the Russian government is paying pro-Trump posters to post on sites like Reddit. I wouldn't be surprised if they are.

"Anonymous sources from US intelligence agenices believe"? ......must be true then. I was wrong. Thank you! Now I'm genuinely concerned.........literally shaking......

I think in the end this sub will pull through but trump is more of a conspiracy than a target of them. These people will learn one way or another.

no its become CRT anti trump circle jerk. most of us couldn't give a fuck about trump. he got in because Hillary is a career criminal

What did you expect?

That's what happens when 90% of large subreddits are controlled by liberal commenters and moderators... Users with right-side/conservative views are pushed into fringe subreddits where they are less likely to be harassed every time they open their mouth.

Of course it would be great if this sub would be split 50/50 left and right, but it won't happen until more people on the left become regulars.

Just watch whenever a post gets popular. You see a massive influx of left-side /r/all users rush in to upvote comments that fit their side. This is the balancing effect, that you desire, in action.

Don't blame individual users for this phenomenon, they have a right to their own opinions like you. Blame every single subreddit that is becoming increasingly political for the left. /r/pics is a good example.

Please... I've already reached my daily salt limit.

Reported this fake thread already. Here we are again. Has it really been 8 years? Feels like 2.

Mods, delete this fucking thread

Ugh... how the fuck did this one make it to the front page? Jeeeeesus... we're gonna have to go all /r/politics and start a megathread of these lame topics.

The main thing killing this sub is fear of "shills". I can't say a damn word in here without being accused of shilling.

Is Correct the Record or whatever shilling here? IDK, maybe. But even if they weren't the hysterical accusations of shilling have done plenty of damage.

Divide and conquer

I don't see how anyone can complain in a /conspiracy forum that the biggest Cabal candidate lost. Sure you may think Trump isn't clean either... but the Bushes and Clintons hate him. The MSM Corporate media hates him. That should tell you all you need to know.

If Hillary had won, this forum would just be anti-Hillary. Same difference. We just see her as a non-player at this point. There is still work to do. No one should feel the need to defend Trump's every move, but if you want to cheerlead the Cabal narrative, do it somewhere else.

Furthermore, don't call people brainwashed and go on promoting ALT-RIGHT this and that... I'm a lifelong liberal, twice voted Obama... support Trump... and also now think labels are nonsense and are used as tools to divide.

The top post is a rant, enough said.

Someone is jealous that we aren't talking about conspiracy related topics yet claim to be taken?

Its become r/The_Donald's little play pen where they are trying to bury stuff in this thread.

Thank you for correcting the record

The man has put the CEO of an alt-right publication in charge of the military and nobody here is talking about that.

Not surprising to see that a new post, basically calling this post a shill, was created by a member of The_Donald. 🤔

Brook's money at work. Lets only talk about t_d and not mention Brook's shills.

Angry, emotional self post based on your feelings with exactly zero evidence of anything that you're saying being true. No commentary on any recent events (no TPP is a big one).

Insulting everyone that doesn't agree with you and telling them to fuck off... bold strategy...

Instead of a subreddit where people are free to share their opinions no matter what they are you want to censor it to match your views.

I don't think you'll be missed.

yup. t_d and CTR have fucked this place up good. We held out for a long time though....but look at Reddit, at what it has become. It was inevitable.

This sub is far from dead. Its been making it to the front page a lot lately.

I think some of you people don't know how to not click on things you don't want to read? See something stupid? Downvote and move on.

What the fuck are you talking about? Please don't let the door hit you on the way out.

David Brock shill trying to divvy up the subreddit

I agree that trump is not a good guy, and in many ways he could be worse than any leader before him. He's clearly on the side of Zionists, and he may very likely be a pedo himself. The whole system needs removing and power should go to thepeople. Make the internet president of something.

I agree that trump is not a good guy, and in many ways he could be worse than any leader before him. He's clearly on the side of Zionists, and he may very likely be a pedo himself. The whole system needs removing and power should go to thepeople. Make the internet president of something.

I agree that trump is not a good guy, and in many ways he could be worse than any leader before him. He's clearly on the side of Zionists, and he may very likely be a pedo himself. The whole system needs removing and power should go to thepeople. Make the internet president of something.

Not dead yet but definetly dying due to left wing brigade parties such as /r/politics, /r/enoughtrumpspam, /r/impeach_Trump, /r/Trumpgret, /r/shitThe_DonaldSays, /r/fuckthealtright, /r/taxmarch, /r/the_schulz, /r/Trumpnicknames, /r/againsthatesubreddits (ironic), /r/the_cheeto etc, etc.

Fuck you.

TLDR some people miss being outcasts when conspiracy was fringe. As more people wake up, it becomes less fringe.

Any objective person can look at the front page of this sub and see three factions...one pro HIllary, one pro Trump and a much larger one pro neither. Posts like this are partof an effort to dissuade people from posting so thanks, and don't let the door hit you in the ass. As a lurker you never contributed to the discussion anyway, and the things you rail about you could have fought againt...but instead you left it to the rest of us...so, leave it to the rest of us.

I am confused by all these post shitting on the current state of this sub who have only posted here a couple times, and only over the last month or two.

Maybe they are lurkers, but idk...

There are a lot of these lately.

Rule 10) Posts that attack this sub, users or mods thereof, will be removed. Accusing another user of being a troll or shill can be viewed as an attack, depending on context. Repeat offenders are subject to a ban.

There is, of course, the "Reddit Conspiracy" that prevents any kind of balanced discussion of important issues and topics that has driven many to post here what they can't post elsewhere because of that.

There is also the not so small fact that politics itself plays a major role in virtually all of the most important conspiracies that refuse to die as long as real truth about them remains unknown.

And politics also largest player in trying to suppress and keep those truths buried. So in manner of speaking these posts are relevant as are the reasons why they are being so vigorously repressed and buried. Simply more artifacts for us politely consider and mull over for whatever scraps of truth they may contain that can't be spoken of elsewhere.

Rule 10) Posts that attack this sub, users or mods thereof, will be removed. Accusing another user of being a troll or shill can be viewed as an attack, depending on context. Repeat offenders are subject to a ban.

You're wrong. This only shows how alive this sub is. It is changing with the times and staying relevant. Right now, Trump/pizza/Antarctica/Israel/Soros conspiracies are more relevant than ever. We all know Trump cannot be trusted, but he's more of an anti-hero than a villain. Unfortunately, he's the only person on our side who has a fighting chance. We'd all be happy to put our support behind Bernie, Tulsi, or Rand but they just aren't in a position where they can effect as much change as Trump. So. fuck you.

Long time lurker you have only been on Reddit for a year how can you make that judgment after only a short time spent on this sub and it was during the most fucked up presidential race in history. Yes this sub has problems but still way better than most of the other subs.

Is there somewhere we can exile to while we let CTR fight T_D like the dumbasses they all are?

You leave and the terrorists have won.

LOL. JK.

But yeah, if you are a bona fide searcher for the truth, you're giving up too easily. If you are a shill, buh bye.

Bye douche. Don't let the door hit your ass on the way oit

Fuck you too. Is Trump the real deal? I doubt it. Does he have the political establishment, the media, CEOs and globalists shitting their pants and soing everything in their power to break him? Hell yeah. He's a dream come true for the anti-globalists who inhabit this sub.

No it isn't. Lurk somewhere else.

Congrats, you're either CTR, or you fell for their game, and let them win. Nobody that frequents this sub is that mentally weak that they can't handle another opinion. Nice try though

Wow.. https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/5r7hp7/psa_posts_saying_this_sub_is_dead_or_some/dd58jgi/?context=3

Just stop already.

I think it's just you.

This sub is not pro t_d it just doesn't fall into the hysteria of joining with the establishment and legacy media in non-stop alarmism.

One thing this sub does is help cultivate skills of discernment,

Goodbye, please follow through with your promise to leave, and don't just post these stupid posts.

Nah, it ain't dead. This shit will blow over after a bit. Wait and see.

I 100% agree with you. Haven't been on r/conspiracy much in the past few weeks and I'm amazed at how this transformed into a mini r/theDonald sub with a bunch of hateful alt-rights. Super disappointing.

It's not that we think he's our friend.

We're still on the "thank fuck it wasn't Hillary" high...

Same old script. Come on now, can't you see it's no use to corrupt this sub with your CIA talking points?

Don't let the door hit you on the way out.

No its not.

Couldn't agree more.

Black and white thinking like this is killing the sub, not 'the donald' or people who like or support trump. Those who legitimately support trump have thought about this very likely much more than OP has, and can elucidate their reasoning for supporting trump, whereas those who cry about excessive trump posts here can only complain in a simple way

KEK

More like it's become an r/politics echo chamber. There are more of you supposed "lurkers" from r/politics spouting the CTR narrative than there are "pro-Trump stories" you're always claiming are filling up the sub. Far more.

Op's on the right track but, Leftists, liberals, socialists, right wing, alt right, Trump supporters, Republicans, Dems, most of the time these are just words, words that are designed.to be used as tools to segregate people and turn them against Rach other. By defining someone's differences so strongly in opposition to someone else's you create conflict inside a group that would normally work together, and divided you will be continually conquered, Untill everyone focuses on what unites them over what divides them. The 1% they're the enemy, they are the only ones who profit from causing a "war" between two sides, they've been doing it for generations.. I know its hard but even the racists can be thought of as victims, they're stupid and ignorant yes, but theyr'e are easily brainwashed, so they live in a bubble where no one can get through and tell them its wrong because they've been shown for years negative stereotypes through every available source of media all whilst their community is blighted with drugs, unemployment and crime caused by the actions of the people pointing out who should be blamed for all their problems. They don't even know that they've been manipulated, and that their anger and hate is the very thing that politicians have become adept at monetizing.

Yesterday, this sub was infected with Anti-Real...

Today this sub is dead...

Protect yourself from Anti-Real...

All the best stuff is in the “controversial” tab

Quality shitpost right here

328 comments. Thank you for bringing it to light again!! The sub needed this little boost and we all appreciate the atte tion greatly and thanks to this post, many folks that never spoke up before have now signed on as active members of r/conspiracy. This post did more to bring the sub back to life than we could have by posting conspiracies. So thank you. Now lets get to exposing the insane corruption around HRC and DT and make sure niether ever have a place in govt again!

The conspiracy is that EVERYONE in media and Politics was looking down on him, was denying his ability to run for Republicans then won then was scoffed at at being president and won that too. He came with a promise and multiple at that and is now actually DOING THEM. Me being from New York, never liked him, but as I do research on his person I have found his economic understanding was absolutely good enough and even better for fact at getting things done here in America.. our industrial revolution was a huge success due to business men and not politicians.. I have to with my mind and heart belive he will do better for Americans first and foremost amd every one else second.

LOL so mad. What a little bitch.

Sorry but is this an example of meta...

A conspiracy theory about the conspiracy sub

Fuck the amount of meta in this post...

• Conspiracy that this is just a mini "the_donald" in the conspiracy sub
• Supposed Pro Trump sub upvotes the shit out of a anti trump post

Conspiracy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

What better way to take over the world then use the conspiracy nuts as a think-tank?

Fuck you too ! Out!Out!Out!

You say that but TD banned me. As much as they want to muck about here, their doing so is only evidence that this sub isn't dead at all.

This is why amateur conspiracy theorist should never have a say here.

Are there professional conspiracy theorists?

They sometimes throw a "mods are compromised" accusation in there, too.

It's astounding how many people in this sub have fallen for the very tactics that used to be discussed here before the election.

Doesn't make him right. If I say "you always argue" , and you retort "no I don't!". You haven't proved my point. Much as I want to claim victory.

Yeah, that injection of 40 mil into the new CTR is really showing on reddit. I'd bet that media matters leak is half the reason this guy is saying this sub is dead.

If you weren't so wilfully ignorant about the world outside your own borders you might actually learn something. Let me rephrase it for your little indoctrinated pea-brain. Tony was Trump lite and he did not last a full term. He was replaced with Malcolm who is pushing much the same agenda (for Goldman-Sachs), but puts a friendlier face on things.

I'm sorry, did you take me making fun of you being a pussy as being angry?

No, no, no...my appologies. I'm just stating a basic fact about you being a little crybaby who likes to hide in places where others can't make fun of you.

Your braiwashing level: trump supporter.

I got my comment removed calling out OP post history yet if you read rule 10 you cant attack this sub yet this post itself is an attack on this sub. Mod JamesColesPardon reeks of ctr!

Yeah you definitely aren't reading any posts by real /r/conspiracy regulars. We are being manipulated you know.

To believe one must be pro Clinton to be anti Trump is a lazy exercise in mental gymnastics

Calling him a shill is disrespectful to shills ok. I said CTR.

These dummies will ban you for that.

just watch those people get fucked over you cant save them anyway

I completely understand the difference my young friend. Keep telling yourself that people who are effective at projecting are always ignorant

I will, because they are, and I'm not very young.

You don't know the mods, you just decided that you want them to play gatekeeper for... what reason?

I honestly think the pollsters didn't do it on purpose per-se.

Sorry, but we have the Podesta leaks where that EXACT purpose was all planned out. You're not fooling anyone.

Ya sorry shillshillverstain the cuck. Does that suit you?

If you have people working full time, you can make it appear as if the user base supports some idea or another.

Like "Trump is good, Putin is friend"?

lack of experience first and foremost

Lack of experience is being a one term senator.

they admitted they oversampled minority demographics

Yes, for their internal polls and it happened in 2008, do you not pay any attention to the shit you're told? The way this sub just blindly accepts whatever suits their preconceived notions is fucking astounding considering this is a conspiracy sub. You people were played like a fiddle and you wear it like a badge of pride.