Despite popular misconception, humans do not see a direct representation of external reality, but a translation formed by their eyes and mind.

29  2017-02-05 by astralrocker2001

33 comments

And we never see things in real time

Incredible. Do you know how much of a delay there is ?

Well, if you're looking at the stars in the sky at night then there is anywhere from a few years to a few hundred, or even thousand, years between the time that has passed since each of those stars shone the light at you that you are seeing at any moment in time. We all know that we're not seeing the light from those stars as the light is now, but we don't typically stop to realize that, for instance, Alpha Centauri, the third brightest star in the sky, just 4.37 light-years from Earth, while the farthest star we can see with our naked eye is V762 Cas in Cassiopeia at 16,308 light-years away. So if you can see both of them you're seeing something that happened a little over four years ago at the same time you are seeing something that happened 16,308 years ago.

Yep. One of those stars could be "dead" and we could never know for a long time

Wow, i got high as fuck a week or two ago and i was having this exact though. Thinking of the stars helped me realize how our perception is limited by the speed of light; if we could perceive energy faster than the speed of light, you would in theory be able to see the future (relative to everybody else who only perceives at the speed of light).

Even if you are looking at the wall in front of you, there is still a really small small delay there; you are limited in your perception by the speed of light.

This means that whatever is going to happen, could have ALREADY happened (in a really tiny period of time), but you haven't perceived it yet

I reckon, if this is all true, at some point, if you could perceive energy way faster than at the speed of light, you could probably perceive all that exists all at once. Maybe thats what death is

Do you remember what it was like before your parents conceived you? That's exactly what death is like.

Next time you see the lightning strikes in a thunderstorm, count the number of seconds it takes for the sound of the lightning strike to reach you. It's coming at you at approximately 1,126 feet per second. You can estimate how far away the lightning strike is. If there's no delay that you can perceive, well, check to see if you're still alive.

Theres nothing that I can remember before the age of probably 3-4 years old - but I was alive in those first 3 to 4 years; so i dont know if that proves what death is.

Maybe you only remember things once you've had your perception crushed down into your own little box of life. Meaning, when you are a child, you brain will accept anything that it is fed - it takes all of these things, blends them together, and that becomes your reality (you speak english, youre american, you live in whatever state ect).

What the hell would your brain/life/consciousness be like if you were just left alone and you developed your own unique language and perception of life/consciousness instead of having the world force their consciousness on you? I think we are squashing the brilliance out of ourselves and our children

I wrote "before you were conceived". Do you remember any of that?

No - but what what I'm saying is I also don't remember anything up until age 3 or 4 - lack of memory doesn't necessarily prove what death is

I listened to a lecture from a man who said when hitting a baseball for example, The Matrix makes the decision for you. That the experience is happening way to fast for a person to evaluate and decide about hitting a extremely fast moving object.

I guess this puts movies in a whole new perspective since they destroy your perception of reality even more.

Oh, I dunno. I have always thought of what I see as a direct representation of an external reality.

We can never prove that "External Reality" actually exists.

You're picking on an old guy who just finished his last bottle of tequila. I'm closing my eyes now.

I am your friend. I never pick on anyone, and seek only to expand your truth. Also you are not "old". You are an eternal being. Your Holographic Avatar projects the accepted belief in "aging". This limitation will not hold us back eventually. These can be difficult subjects. We are all in this together.

I have you marked as a friend, too. I am 68 but except when I look in the mirror to shave I don't even think about my age much at all. I get along very well and very easily with most people. I am one of those people, a philanthropist and software legend who is famous but not many people know it because my face is not all over the place. I enjoy life a great deal. Thanks for your comment.

It's not, it's an interpretation by your brain of the signals received by your frequency sensors. When you think about something, the same areas in your brain that get activated when you interact with said thing light up.

What you call reality is just recognition of patterns you've conditioned in your nervous system.

Not really adding to this constructively....sorry in advanced, but can't our "reflexes" perceive faster than our eyes can? I know there are tons of times I'm putting groceries away and something drops that my conscious mind doesn't know about..but I instinctively catch it. Does anyone know what that is? Are we talking the same thing? I've always been curious about what happens from the time we die to the time we "see" it. Could that be a quantum eternity or afterlife that we always here about?

The Matrix makes the decision and projects the outcome.

Mind sharing some matrix related reading material? Always been fascinated and was addicted to the philosophical aspect of the matrix, but am now seeing it may go much deeper. All of this stuff makes my head swim still thb

Thanks boss

We are all in this together :)

People would have the ability to create their own world, according to what they want to see and feel, if it weren't for deliberate control and suppression of these gifts.

Luckily, the Vampires that suck, are actually poisoning themselves, and ruining their future lives. The children they sacrifice will be too damaged to carry on their beliefs. The new dawn is forever dark for them, and good people will win this battle.

Thank you for your excellent comment. One day we will all be free and create Universes of True Beauty together...

Isn't external reality just matter and energy? Or maybe just data?

Matter does not exist. Energy does, but is actually created by "Thought".

What does 'exist' mean? :)

I contend that the reality we "see" is constructed in a way that's actually pretty analogous to how 3D scenery is generated on a computer; i.e., inside a virtual 3D space where objects are represented as a polygonal surface mesh. Our brains can manipulate these objects using mathematics very similar to how angular rotations/transformations are performed on a computer.

And, it does this incredibly rapidly. Just shift your vision from one place to the next – in that blink of an eye, your brain takes a stereoscopic image and extracts all the information it needs in order to build a 3D polygon map, with high-resolution textures, and then a ray-trace – or perhaps a shortcut calculation of surface normals – to create a convincing illuminated scene.

While that's impressive in my opinion, there's another aspect that makes it truly phenomenal. In my above example, you might have thought of a living room or other human environment. These are pretty simple in terms of the shapes that compose them, as we tend to favor simple, regularly shaped object – but, what about plants and other natural phenomena like rocks and clouds and smoke, etc.?

I think that as well as 'knowing' how to generate and rotate 3D objects mathematically, our brains know the 'god formula' that underlies every living creature and natural material phenomenon. And, it actually requires less energy/effort for our brains to create a 3D version of a complex plant than an artificial object. We only need a tiny amount of information about the plant to, almost instantly, map and render its features completely. If there weren't such a shortcut, taking a walk through the woods would be as mentally taxing as a stroll through Times Square, or even more so.

But, it's not. It's relaxing. And, that's because this whole reality, especially the natural world, contains a lot less information than it appears to. My evidence in support of this comes from my meditative practices while on high-potency psilocybin trips. When one takes about 3.5g (5+ is more ideal) or more of dried shrooms and lays in a completely dark room or with a blindfold on, a new reality is witnessed. Particularly after the peak of the experience, one can remain in a state where they're beholding another reality, but has much more agency over its content and can shape it simply by thinking about it. What I've discovered is that any new reality can be summoned in the blink of an eye, whether that's a land of white cubes stacked on top of one another (simple) or some lush alien planet like in Avatar or what have you. It's essentially instant. You can 'explode' realities into existence, and they all have a profound beauty to them. One can conjure artworks of the highest order, better than has ever been created in this reality by a painter, say, at a blistering rate – 3 per second, at least. If you want it to go faster, it just does.

In seeing these realities appear before my eyes, I notice them at the threshold being 'drawn' in a way that's like a 3D program. A wire mesh extends out first, then colors are filled in, and lastly, a ray-trace step adds that gorgeous finishing touch. An idea I had to try to get more insight into the 'god formula' I spoke of earlier, I set my intention to, instead of having each new scene simply drawn in its complete state, show myself what it would look like if the creation of these realities were to occur on earth due to natural processes in a kind of time lapse. What I saw was profound – instead of simply appearing, each place would start as a kind of desolate landscape, and then a million plants would spring up from the ground and actually grow just as you see in time lapse movies of plant growth. Doing this was just as effortless as conjuring the completed product. I remember there was about a 2s delay between asking to see that (as if something was pondering the request for a moment) and it unfurling in utter perfection in my mind's eye.

This is why I can't stand it when sophomoric bien pensants like Michio Kaku 'introduce' the idea that this reality might not be 'real', but rather some kind of VR simulation, perhaps a game created by ancient aliens or whatever. My response is – of course we are, you dunce! Of course we're 'living' in a 'virtual reality' – it's inside your head. That's where the VR game in which you 'live' is located. How he doesn't notice this I don't know. But, what chance do you think we have of determining whether or not 'real' reality is the real reality or a VR simulation from the perspective of a VR simulation of a reality that one has exactly zero purchase on the prospect of determining the realness of!?

I have seen this low poly dimension you have talked about on dmt and shrooms also. It is so weird to have someone articulate that.

Thanks boss

We are all in this together :)