Is the Super Bowl rigged?
55 2017-02-06 by zanelyle18
So much money is wagered on the Super bowl, and 30 seconds of ad time cost 5 million dollars. With such massive amounts of money involved could the super bowl be fixed?
Or even as far as other major sport championships being controlled? The last NBA Final went to 7 games (More adds to be played) and The world series as well. Is there any proof of something like this being true? I'm sure i'm not the only one who has this on their mind.
153 comments
n/a btbeats 2017-02-06
i think it is. saints win right after Katrina? Peyton wins as he is readying for retirement? Weird to say the least
n/a zanelyle18 2017-02-06
right?
n/a agentf90 2017-02-06
Dwight Clark and "the catch" -- its so obvious! j/k
n/a slingbladerapture 2017-02-06
Don't talk about Peyton like that
n/a zanelyle18 2017-02-06
no doubt he's an incredible football player, just saying maybe he had some help on the last game of his career that happened to be the super bowl... he didn't have that great of a season as a QB.
n/a slingbladerapture 2017-02-06
He'll be back next season don't fool yourself
n/a mttl 2017-02-06
There is one specific camera angle of his last game where you can see the other team turn the ball over the ball on purpose
http://i.imgur.com/5XajqEL.png
n/a zanelyle18 2017-02-06
hahahahahaha
n/a combatjellyfish 2017-02-06
FUCK
n/a lroselg 2017-02-06
He got some help from a colossal pass rush and a befuddled Cam Newton.
n/a august_landmesser 2017-02-06
How is that a conspiracy? They one the Superbowl in 2010, Hurricane Katrina was in 2005.
n/a btbeats 2017-02-06
I'm sorry you're right. Katrina was in 2005 but the saints surprisingly did reach the NFC championship in 2006. In 2009 however, the saints signed a deal keeping the saints in New Orleans until 2025, then they won the championship in 2010
n/a zanelyle18 2017-02-06
Learn your facts before you come in here talking like that dude.
n/a magiclasso 2017-02-06
The saints won just after the cleanup was ok'ed and New Orleans was trying to bring back all the people who left. I remember lots of news surrounding N'Orleans with lots of it focused on showing how nice and fun the city was once again...the same season The Saints miraculously won the super bowl and have mostly sucked since then.
n/a JamesColesPardon 2017-02-06
Guess who had an amazing comeback win after 9/11?
n/a combatjellyfish 2017-02-06
Saudi Arabia?
n/a JamesColesPardon 2017-02-06
Good answer.
n/a Jayyysonnn 2017-02-06
Now that's funny...
n/a zanelyle18 2017-02-06
The patriots!
n/a Ambiguously_Ironic 2017-02-06
The CIAs opium traffickers?
n/a JamesColesPardon 2017-02-06
You're not wrong.
n/a the_write_eyedea 2017-02-06
Can't forget ray Lewis and the ravens with the help of some faulty lights.
n/a footehv2 2017-02-06
Reminds me of Kobe's INSANE last game where he didn't miss a single shot in the last quarter or something
n/a WooTs_67 2017-02-06
how could that be possibly rigged tho.
n/a TheCrickler 2017-02-06
Projections
n/a footehv2 2017-02-06
No idea but after watching it again, the defenders seemed to completely back off and let him play what he wanted. This is hard to prove and probably unlikely to be fixed
n/a freddythefuckingfish 2017-02-06
Ya that's just playing soft D and giving a legend his due
n/a TommyDuncan 2017-02-06
They let Kobe score because it was his last game and he's Kobe. It's not some common thing in the NBA. The Jazz just treated it like an all star game.
n/a Jayyysonnn 2017-02-06
It's not?? Do you watch NBA games? How bout when Steph Curry broke the single game point record? (Or was it 3 pointers? Honestly I don't remember which one) The other team stopped playing D for that too.. There are so many instances of the NBA being fishy. Just take off your denial goggles and google it.
n/a TommyDuncan 2017-02-06
I don't need to google it, I actually watch the NBA. The fact that you think it could have even been the single game point record tells me you probably don't.
The other team didn't stop playing D at all. The Pels weren't very good on defense last year but it's not like they were purposely letting him break the record. This was the shot to break the record lmao https://gyazo.com/877ef01b94af48a7c54bead81065265e
n/a Ambiguously_Ironic 2017-02-06
NBA players, especially a superstar like Kobe, are good enough that they'll hit almost every shot if you leave them open - especially once they get in the groove. All you'd need to do is play slightly loose defense and make sure that Kobe knows he doesn't really need to worry about his shots being blocked, and his skill will do the rest.
I'm just speculating of course.
n/a B12awley 2017-02-06
How can you fix that catch by Edelman, or James White's knee not being down by an inch on his score at the end of the fourth? I see what you're saying, but it's hard to blow the game on purpose and let it look like it was that close.
n/a zanelyle18 2017-02-06
it's not that every play in the game is rehearsed. It's just the outcome that is rigged.
n/a Demty 2017-02-06
Osbolutely sir. If two have the same conclusion it must be true. I think jesus said that shyt.
n/a Demty 2017-02-06
I agree but they are professionals. They can make it look good 99.9 percent of the time. I believe the game was rigged if you don't believe me watch the second to last play in OT the falcons dude clearly could of intercepted the throw. Pats were clearly the favorite. Brady will likely retire. NFL needed pats to win. It's losing popularity. Pats game prices have risen insane amounts and they will continue to rise. It's a show. Sit back and relax and ignore the man behind the curtain.
n/a coolstuffthatiscool 2017-02-06
Why wouldn't a single NFL player ever admit this? Thousands of players have played in the super bowl by now, many of them I imagine with a bad relationship to the NFL... And yet.....
n/a Demty 2017-02-06
Not everyone is in on It. You have a team of people maybe 5 or 10 and they can change the outcome.
n/a coolstuffthatiscool 2017-02-06
Once or twice, possible. Every year? There's just no reason.
n/a Demty 2017-02-06
There's reason. And it's about $ and keeping the NFL interesting.
n/a coolstuffthatiscool 2017-02-06
Yeah no sports team has ever surprised anyone before.
n/a Demty 2017-02-06
The blue pill tastes better doesn't it.
n/a coolstuffthatiscool 2017-02-06
At least it doesn't smell like fish
n/a DawnPendraig 2017-02-06
NDAs and massive financial penalties will keep most people quiet
n/a [deleted] 2017-02-06
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n/a Ambiguously_Ironic 2017-02-06
There isn't anything illegal about the NFL rigging games. The NFL provides "entertainment", and that's all it's required to provide - this has been shown in court.
n/a westendforlife 2017-02-06
Brady isn't retiring
n/a ChiefSittingBulls 2017-02-06
No one wanted the Pats to win, though. They were favorited to win because they're a great team, but everyone hates them.
n/a JamesColesPardon 2017-02-06
Great catch.
n/a murphy212 2017-02-06
Italian soccer was rigged for years, nobody said anything. Not all players need to be in on it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_Italian_football_scandal
n/a eBaggy7 2017-02-06
Not saying I agree entirely, but Trump predicted a win by 8 points
It is not a stretch by any means, in my opinion.
n/a cakeboy1995 2017-02-06
I understand an election being fixed as so much happens behind the scenes. But how could you possibly fix something so out in the open with so many moving parts?
n/a Demty 2017-02-06
Professional actors.
n/a Majnum 2017-02-06
You don't have to bribe/force all the team with just one or two players that commit a mistake at the appropriate moment you could made it
n/a shoziku 2017-02-06
Because the games and players are delicate. A fumble, interception, penalty etc can affect morale and momentum. There have been many games in history where the losing side says "we made a few mistakes" or "referees made bad calls".
n/a WarSanchez 2017-02-06
You can try to force games with calls and bribing players, but shit like Julian Edelman's catch today prove any game is a toss up.
In case you didn't see it: https://www.youtube.com/shared?ci=hfXDr7p2Hok
That catch was pivotal to helping the Pats comeback.
n/a zanelyle18 2017-02-06
Yeah i saw the catch and someone else said that but it's not that every play and every catch in the game is rehearsed and the game works like a theater play. just the outcome is what is fixed. The falcons came out on fire and the patriots were flat on their feet then after halftime the tables blatantly turn like black and white. i don't know it's just a suggestion. Maybe Lady gaga really gets the Pats going
n/a Demty 2017-02-06
It's rigged. And they did a damn good job faking it but not good enough.
n/a rabman123 2017-02-06
You must have no idea how psychological factors play into any sports game. On a stage where everything is on the line? You think players should be immune to mistakes when they know over 100 million people are scrutinizing their every move?
And just think about it for a second. Imagine the amount of players that would have to be in on it. Imagine the number of coaches in on it, general managers, owners, offensive and defensive coordinators, etc. Literally hundreds of people at the very least, and thats just at the present moment. Football has been huge business for decades.
Why has not a single player, coach, gm, owner, ref, or anyone else EVER come out and proclaim that the nfl is rigged?
You will probably say, "oh, they just got paid off, the money is too big!" think about this. if a player is so good, so talented, and has worked his ass off to the point where he is influential enough to be let in on "the scheme," you dont think there is a chance that he would come out and tell the truth? I'm talking about the hundreds if not thousands of great players who have lived off competition their entire lives, and have fought tooth and nail to get to the top.
not a SINGLE one of them has said anything about your apparent, systematic scheming.
I think it is plausible that individual refs are paid off for certain matches, but the thought of a league with everyone being in on it is just plain stupid.
n/a YoureAllRobots 2017-02-06
Yeah, I used to say the same thing about the WWF when I was 10. Grow up, kid.
n/a rabman123 2017-02-06
I assume you meant the WWE, lol. the obvious difference is that even the biggest stars openly acknowledge it is fake. Everything about it screams fake, and nobody in the organization cares to even try and make it seem real.
Here is john cena shamelessly admitting it is fake to the whole world https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdNe2I8TPZA
Here is The Edge, a WWE superstar at one time, telling a man to examine himself for actually thinking the WWE is real. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1dUO4AQE9GY
n/a YoureAllRobots 2017-02-06
I can tell you are young, this is a newer phenomenon than you think.
n/a rabman123 2017-02-06
Once again you say nothing to actually combat my point about the NFL. I may be young, but im finding it very hard to respect you or your opinion, since you just seem to be clinging onto a belief without having any real evidence or argument to counteract my own.
And by the way, its not a new thing buddy. professional wrestling was openly known to be fake since the mid 80's. you may just be a dumbass. check out "genre conventions in the link below. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Professional_wrestling
n/a YoureAllRobots 2017-02-06
I was around before the mid 80's. You want to know who you are to me? You are this guy.
n/a rabman123 2017-02-06
Once again, no argument, lmao.
I was genuinely curious about what other baseless conspiracies you might believe, so I checked out your comment history.
Turns out your are just a butt hurt falcons fan. And you're telling other people to grow up, lmao.
n/a YoureAllRobots 2017-02-06
Not so much butthurt as awakened. You can insult me, it doesn't make it any less true. Have fun with your raging case of whatever the fuck it is that you have.
n/a OutaTime76 2017-02-06
I could tell he was young when he tried to correct you on WWE. The wrestling industry wasn't always open about being predetermined. They only started to do that in the late 80's to get out of legislation when they were paying hefty taxes in Connecticut for being a 'real sport'.
Prior to that, a big portion of viewers still bought into it all being real. But you can argue that even Vince McMahon himself still tried to preserve kayfabe into the late 90's, if the curtain call is any indication.
n/a YoureAllRobots 2017-02-06
Absolutely, and they were right to do all of it. Even Vince selling it in the 90's worked to a T, just like the NFL is doing now. The problem is they are still lying to people about this being a sport, when it really is scripted sports entertainment.
n/a richmilton 2017-02-06
The refs control the game. It's their job to make it a close game to not lose viewers and please the advertisers and fans. This Super Bowl was on its way to be a blowout for sure. The last thing the NFL needed was a blowout. The refs did what they could to make it close. Then it was anybody's game at that point. We all know holding calls control the game... it kills a drive 78% of the time. And what about the lack of a call when a team gets away with holding on a key play? Football is rigged.
n/a ArDariusStewart13 2017-02-06
Then why was Superbowl 48 a blowout? You sound like some retard who just joined a cult. Do you have a brain?
n/a IndecentLongExposure 2017-02-06
Brady is not retiring anytime soon and the NFL hates the Patriots.
n/a btbeats 2017-02-06
I definitely don't think that individual plays are rigged; plays of pure athleticism are still on display. But as a whole, I do suspect that it's rigged. I think that "they" (idk who) wanted to allow a patriots comeback (and ideally an overtime for extra advertisements), though it would be unlikely that each play is rehearsed
n/a Jayyysonnn 2017-02-06
No doubt an amazing play.. but that was just ONE PLAY! It was 28 to 3, and Atlanta was dominating into the 3rd, but all of a sudden they can't put up any more points for the rest of the game? Way too many things had to happen for a Pats victory. It's just common sense that something wasn't right.. Also, there's just no way every super bowl is gonna be a close/exciting game like it's been the past few years without some manipulation
n/a Toadman623 2017-02-06
And if the catch wasn't made, would there have been a flag? Next play? Crazy plays happen all the time. One play isn't a good example if you're trying to make a point
n/a coolstuffthatiscool 2017-02-06
It's not boxing. Too many players too committed to winning
n/a zanelyle18 2017-02-06
The amount of money involved is insane. Basically incomprehensible. "It is wildly unknown how much money could be made if betting was legal but the American Gaming Association estimates that $400 billion is spent each year and 99 percent of it is illegal,” said Skoff. It appears it's only a matter of time before professional sports gets its piece of the action."
n/a coolstuffthatiscool 2017-02-06
Why would the NFL rig it, and how could they, given they don't have a piece of the betting action and most of the betting is done on a spread, not on win/loss
n/a zanelyle18 2017-02-06
because they too get a piece of the pie. or maybe they aren't even involved it could be very under cover who really knows ?
n/a coolstuffthatiscool 2017-02-06
I mean, it is cool to have a sense of things or speculate but very little of what you're saying makes sense or stands up to scrutiny. This is a pretty silly minor thing I don't know is why it has me so engaged but I think, outside of individual players or refs being paid off, scripting, directing or shaping the outcome of a football game is crazy and unnecessary. People watch and bet regardless of who wins and there are way too many people involved for it to remain quiet.
n/a MrDeeds_ 2017-02-06
The need to create entertainment. Entertainment is the key to everything because the TV contracts what supply most of their revenue. It's all about the ratings ($$$) when it's time to renegotiate their TV deals.
n/a server_busy 2017-02-06
Did you see the graphic announcing the final outcome of the game with 12 minutes left on the clock?
n/a zanelyle18 2017-02-06
i didn't, can you somehow link it or find it? I'd really like to see that.
n/a server_busy 2017-02-06
https://i.imgur.com/FMDGIVi.jpg
n/a amg1n3 2017-02-06
....lol, context is everything. that is the beginning of OVERTIME. its explaining that patriots will win the superbowl by scoring a touchdown, aka sudden death.
n/a server_busy 2017-02-06
It wasn't the beginning of overtime - the OT period had begun. Yes it's sudden death. But it hadn't happened yet. That is the point
n/a amg1n3 2017-02-06
fine, it wasnt the beginning. its still simply explaining sudden death.
n/a TheMillenniumMan 2017-02-06
Joe Buck even mentioned it while the graphic was up.
n/a skindoe 2017-02-06
Umm that was just to show everyone the overtime rules which most people don't know especially since it's different in regular vs post-season and in NFL vs college... I'm all for the idea that it might be rigged but that isn't any evidence.
n/a westendforlife 2017-02-06
Only an idiot would take that graphic as more than just telling the viewing audience what would happen if the Pats scored a TD there.
n/a Buffy_B 2017-02-06
That's the overtime screenshot... see "OT" means overtime in the corner.
n/a Hole_Smeller 2017-02-06
They werent announcing the winner. In OT the first touchdown wins, but if it's a field goal, the other team gets 1 possession to try to win...with a touchdown.
The superbowl, attracts people who may not know the OT rules and they put the graphic there for info.
n/a NotUrFweindGuy 2017-02-06
Did you even watch the game or football for that matter or do you just like the halftime show and commercials
n/a agentf90 2017-02-06
I wondered the same thing when it was 28-3 at half and then suddenly 28-28 at end of regulation.
Seems like it could very well be manipulated. How they pull it off though I'm not sure. Players would have to be in on it.
n/a zanelyle18 2017-02-06
of course the players are in on it, the losing team would be paid a large sum of money to maybe not play as hard or throw a bad pass. something like that. Suppose a incredibly rich man has 200 million bet on the game. Wouldn't it be worth it for him to give the Falcons 50 million to lose?
n/a agentf90 2017-02-06
I don't think 50million would cover it though. Its not like the already rich players would just roll over for 500k
n/a zanelyle18 2017-02-06
true it was just a number, there's much more money involved im sure.
n/a agentf90 2017-02-06
yeh. i hear you but it would take no insignicant amount of money. to rig it. I am guessing its not as black and white and there is some sort of compensation bonus for when games are close.
ie: if you lose a game that by 8 points of less you get $xx bonus. if you win a game by less than 8 points you get $yy bonus.
n/a zanelyle18 2017-02-06
that's an interesting take on it man
n/a agentf90 2017-02-06
it would be much easier to implement and also doesn't sound so barbaric to just blatantly bribe an athlete to take a dive....after all its just good business right? closer games === more viewers === more advertising.
n/a Sneum 2017-02-06
Theater for the masses.
n/a magiclasso 2017-02-06
The players are not intelligent enough to be in on it. The coaches are though and they conspire to loosen coverage or just run the proper counter plays.
Every super bowl game has a few moments where defense just stops doing its job. All a coach would have to do is tell a line man or a corner 'dont cover X closely on this drive'. Afterwards they just claim 'whoops I made a mistake' and the stupid fans eat it up. In reality if it wasnt rigged, for the salary those coaches are making, the team would find a more capable strategist.
n/a Ambiguously_Ironic 2017-02-06
All you would need to do is control the refs. They can decide the outcome, or at least guide it, almost singlehandedly. For insurance, maybe you bribe one of the coaches or coordinators from each team, or a couple of the most important players. Honestly, it wouldn't be very difficult.
n/a Aunti_Flip 2017-02-06
Yeah, so are horse races, and gambling. The crazy life makes much money for swindlers.
n/a DBCoopers 2017-02-06
Duh. Of course.
n/a zanelyle18 2017-02-06
It really doesn't seem that far fetched at all.
n/a friedjumboshrimp 2017-02-06
Simple- it's how the penalties are called. On crucial plays penalties can be ignored or called. Look at the final touchdown, there was clearly a holding call by a Patriots player allowing the runner to score. It was not called and it wasn't questioned.
n/a zanelyle18 2017-02-06
so do you think that the refs would be payed off then?
n/a friedjumboshrimp 2017-02-06
Of course.
n/a CrimsonBarberry 2017-02-06
There's actually a term for just that, "Crooked Zebras".
n/a JoRo_ 2017-02-06
The only one you can be absolutely sure was rigged was the Kings vs the lakers 2002 game 6. You should check it out
n/a thefistpenguin 2017-02-06
Or just payed their regular salary with threats. Gangsters dont pay people off.
n/a Demty 2017-02-06
Your damn right. They showed it once.
n/a DPerman1983 2017-02-06
I think Aikman even called it a good block.
n/a _Pm_Me_Your_Boobs_ 2017-02-06
There's literally a penalty on every single play of the game though. Not one play goes by that the o-line doesn't hold. It's always completely up to the ref's judgement. It's just like faceoffs in hockey, 90% of the time you won't win if you don't cheat.
n/a Ambiguously_Ironic 2017-02-06
That's kind of the point. This is why it would be so easy to rig, because they could call a penalty on any play they choose to or they could ignore the penalty.
n/a _Pm_Me_Your_Boobs_ 2017-02-06
Definitely. I agree.
n/a IanPhlegming 2017-02-06
You really need to read "The Fix Is In" by Brian Tuohy.
n/a zanelyle18 2017-02-06
i'll look into that.
n/a elguapo4twenty 2017-02-06
Iv read read it. Can cofirm... you really do need to ready it
n/a elguapo4twenty 2017-02-06
Iv read it. Can confirm, you do need read it.
n/a PTDancer 2017-02-06
There's a great podcast on The Higherside Chats about this.
n/a jakedaily 2017-02-06
Especially that Seahawks vs Patriots game in 2015. Why would anyone pass a ball at a 1 yard line? I definitely would be surprised if it wasn't rigged
n/a august_landmesser 2017-02-06
Are you fucking kidding me? Come on dude, you are better than this.
n/a andredawson 2017-02-06
I read a theory that it is and they use time travel, which in my mind would be a necessary ingredient.
n/a NotUrFweindGuy 2017-02-06
Ok last year the Panthers just got lucky with that 15-1 season the South divisions both AFC and NFC are known for being not very good look at the panthers this year
Falcons just pulled a newbie move by trying to go for a TD instead of running up the middle and getting a field goal they wanted to put the game out of reach not just be slightly ahead in points
n/a Jayyysonnn 2017-02-06
A historic first super bowl for Atlanta, fails in comparison to.. 1) Brady becoming the "best" ever.. 2) Staging the biggest comeback ever.. 3) First Overtime SB 4) merchandise sales from a Pats victory, will no doubt generate way more $ than an Atlanta win..
IMO since all of those things happened, it was clearly a shameless rigging, and it really bums me out. It's a slap in the face to every fan that spent their hard earned money on ridiculously expensive tix, and merch..
n/a NotUrFweindGuy 2017-02-06
To be fair they did lose a few defensive players in the game I mean they had a fair chance to and half time adjustments is what Bill does best you guys can keep thinking the way you do but I don't see it my dad only noticed one call that didn't get noticed but it was a holding in the trenches and that kind of shit happens all the time you'd be surprised how much holding isn't called or else there would be a penalty on every play
n/a shoziku 2017-02-06
And in my conspiracy mind I think the Patriots having so many wins is meant to reinforce patriotism and symbolically being on the winning side. It's a morale booster for those who are proud to be Americans.
n/a richmilton 2017-02-06
This
n/a smokeysandwich 2017-02-06
What if the opposing coaches headsets are actually in communication with each other and they could go as far as to orchestrate the course of a game via coordinating their playbooks
n/a ballanswerthrowaway 2017-02-06
Except that there are live mics pretty much everywhere on the sidelines and even on the field. Just go watch the countless NFL network re-caps and documentaries of previous games/seasons/superbowls.
n/a yaosio 2017-02-06
Yes, the many hundreds of people involved with every Superbowl are sworn to secrecy. There are tens of thousands of people keeping their lips sealed about it. It's the best kept secret by people incapable of keeping their mouths shut, which is part of the conspiracy.
n/a elguapo4twenty 2017-02-06
"We need to tell 1,000s of people who are on a need-to-know basis our complete conspiracy from top to bottom and tell them all to be sure not to tell anyone about it." -said no conspirator ever
n/a Juan__Lennon 2017-02-06
After that alleged "power outage" that swung the Superbowl years back, that became perfectly clear. If it's on zionist TV, it most certainly is rigged
n/a E9er 2017-02-06
all major sports are rigged even the olympics! why always usa russia and china win most metals... you gotta be EXTREMELY naive or just don't want to believe the obvious... these games are not for our amusement these are businesses! these are people's work from the ref to players to owners! everyone is doing it for the money! if you can milk the hell out of it to make more money why wouldn't you? they do! that's why they're business men and are rich... the leagues easily tell their refs what calls to make to help a specific team win and bam... the players if they don't like it too bad! if they like it good. either way the game has been won b4 it started... look at brady's deflated ball cheat we gone ignore that and sweep it under the rug.. ok fine... when you win a super bowl or a major accomplishment you are happy beyond life... if you see brady after the game ends he doesn't looks ecstatic over joyful he just won... he has a bland face of guilt like what have i done... then he get on the floor to cry and make it credible... pfff b.s brady is the biggest cheater of all time!!! all you ignorants sucking him blindly can believe him but he a cheater in my book
n/a rabman123 2017-02-06
Just think about it for a second. Imagine the amount of players that would have to be in on it. Imagine the number of coaches in on it, general managers, owners, offensive and defensive coordinators, etc. Literally hundreds of people at the very least, and thats just at the present moment. Football has been huge business for decades.
Why has not a single player, coach, gm, owner, ref, or anyone else EVER come out and proclaim that the nfl is rigged?
You will probably say, "oh, they just got paid off, the money is too big!" think about this. if a player is so good, so talented, and has worked his ass off to the point where he is influential enough to be let in on "the scheme," you dont think there is a chance that he would come out and tell the truth? I'm talking about the hundreds if not thousands of great players who have lived off competition their entire lives, and have fought tooth and nail to get to the top.
not a SINGLE one of them has said anything about your apparent, systematic scheming.
I think it is plausible that individual refs are paid off for certain matches, but the thought of a league with everyone being in on it is just plain stupid.
n/a skoalbrother 2017-02-06
Nah patriots are a well prepared team that has been there before
n/a wormholeracer 2017-02-06
CHEATED BEFORE. with official corroboration and suppression of penalty.
n/a daddie_o 2017-02-06
It's not just the superbowl. Check out this post on the obvious nature of scripted sports is scripted. Be sure to follow the first two links to his comments in other posts.
n/a Maximusplatypus 2017-02-06
If you know anything about sports and watched Brady's performance, and how absolutely razor thin his margins were, you'd see it's not rigged..no freakin way. Also the deflection catch made by Edelman. There's just no way to fake any of that.
n/a compwiz1202 2017-02-06
If I didn't believe it before, I definitely believe it now.
n/a zanelyle18 2017-02-06
it doesn't seem that far fetched
n/a illset 2017-02-06
Like the symbolism of the Patriot and the Falcon?
n/a kingofthemonsters 2017-02-06
Who would the falcon be?
n/a galvezz 2017-02-06
The face of Tom Brady after one play was so fake , he is really bad in acting. Yesterday I realized this game was rigged, there is no way a team can change so much from first half to second. Most of professional sports are rigged, peraphs all of them.
n/a richmilton 2017-02-06
Of course it's fixed. Vegas makes $BILLIONS on these games. Anybody thar thinks the NFL is not fixed is retarded. I stopped watching years ago. Refs can call holding on virtually any play to kill a drive. It's WHEN they make a holding call and NOT when they make a call that matters. It's rigged. The NFL shares 70 to 75 percent of its $10+ billion-a-year income including television/broadcast/internet rights and licensing. Ticket sales are split 66 percent for the home team and the other 34 percent shared equally among all franchises. Only luxury boxes sales (which explains the "need" for new stadiums), local advertising & sponsorships, and official pro shop sales are not shared. No other league shares as much of its income as the NFL.
n/a zanelyle18 2017-02-06
this is the best answer i've seen man, thank you
n/a greenmachine8885 2017-02-06
I was trying to explain this to someone earlier but didn't have the articulation to put it like this. A system like the NFL controls a huge amount of the population. If it gets stale, they lose money. In order to maximize profits, it would be a horrible business decision to leave outcomes to the players. Much better to create tension, drama, escalation and climactic resolution. Make deflategate a big deal. Get people angry, emotionally invested. Give them a huge underdog story with a triumphant punchline, and watch them empty out their pockets to you. It's the biggest soap opera in history.
n/a richmilton 2017-02-06
Exactly! It's nice to see somebody else gets it! I use to be a huge football. I still watch the games, it's in my genes... Dad played, uncles, grandfather, etc. It killed me when I realized playoff games and some regular season games are rigged. This pass SB was so obviously fixed I had to laugh. All it takes is one ref and/or one player to fix the outcome of almost any game. Sad. But true.
n/a Manof_theFuture 2017-02-06
Is there any source on that. I would really like to use this in future debates.
n/a Ambiguously_Ironic 2017-02-06
Here. This website has a ton of other good information too.
http://www.thefixisin.net/theproof.html
n/a SapioPariah 2017-02-06
So the official call holding on Matthews, yet on the same play they ignore a blatant facemask by the Patriots defender.
http://www.sbnation.com/2017/2/5/14518320/super-bowl-2017-penalty-atlanta-falcons-facemask-new-england-patriots
n/a hellomiggy 2017-02-06
Which franchise is going to shell out the big number to "win" that championship.
You also have had multiple captains on the field that can easily audible the play.
n/a wormholeracer 2017-02-06
It goes beyond money. All conspiracy theories need to be thoroughly tested against one simple question. What is the point? Some possibilities...
The Super Bowl is a mass hypnosis event. It is definitely blatantly attempting to influence a giant audience of people that don't even like or follow football otherwise. This much is obvious.
Someone like Tom Brady is now a modern day demi-god. He can be employed to distract, influence, or criticize. This win solidified him as the actual Captain America.
The symbolism runs wide and deep if not obvious. Patriots are a symbol, red white and blue, and a very white team beating a team from the "blackest american city."
So, what is the point of rigging the superbowl? Control? Suppression? Distraction? Racism? Elitism? Sports heroism and fanaticism has long been the "circus" of choice. What other entertainment avenues command such hundreds of billions of city tax payer money to facilitate?
How about this? What was the point of the Roman Coliseum? Wonder if those events were fixed? Football is Professional Wrestling for the intellectual average and socially complicit American masses. Yes, it could definitely be rigged.
n/a richmilton 2017-02-06
$$$ is the ONLY reason. You can say control or power over the people, But that still comes down to $$$
n/a apaulo13 2017-02-06
Yes lol, how often does a team named the patriots seem to win the superbowl
n/a wormholeracer 2017-02-06
If you don't think football is rigged watch what happens to the Lions every time they are in a playoff game, Seahawks notwithstanding. :)
n/a zanelyle18 2017-02-06
lions are my team baby! we don't get to watch very many play off games
n/a wormholeracer 2017-02-06
2011 was the worst against Saints, remember? How ABOUT THIS SHIT?
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/01/08/league-admits-errors-on-lions-saints-fumble/
“Referee Tony Corrente ruled the play was a fumble and a recovery by Detroit,” the league said in a statement emailed Sunday night to PFT. “However, during the play and before Detroit recovered the fumble, another official blew the whistle believing it was an incomplete pass. Because the ruling on the field was a fumble, and the whistle came before the recovery, the play is dead because of the inadvertent whistle and the Saints should have retained possession of the ball. New Orleans would then have had the choice to put the ball in play at the spot where possession was lost or to replay the down. Inadvertent whistles are not reviewable.” << Neither are shattered knee caps or dreams.
n/a spariley 2017-02-06
The Patriots were finished, toasted and roasted. But this is the NFL, part of the entertainment industry, and here miracle comebacks are all part of the show. Because if this game was real, why did the Falcons do any of the following?
Up 28-3, they only called running plays five more times for the remainder of the game.
Up by 16 in the fourth quarter, averaging 6+ yards a carry (when they did run the ball), and after running on the first two downs to make it 3rd-and-1, Matt Ryan fades back not for a quick strike pass, but a long pass play. He stands statuesque in the pocket and is promptly blindsided, sacked, and fumbles.
Then when up only 8 and after a spectacular catch by Julio Jones (which may have been an attempted interception on Ryan's part given the stupidity of the throw in the first place), the Falcons had the ball on the Patriots' 22-yard line with three minutes left in the game. They were three runs and a field goal attempt away from sealing the team's first-ever Super Bowl championship. So what do they do? First down is a run (good start) for -1 yards. Still right there for a field goal. Second down is a pass (!), yet Ryan is sacked (doesn't bother to throw the ball away). Still, a long field goal attempt is possible. So on third down, the Falcons attempt another pass. This leads to an offensive holding call which makes it 3rd-and-33 and knocks out the possibility of any field goal attempt. The second attempt at third down is a complete bust, and well...you know how it ended from there.
Even Marshawn Lynch--you remember, the guy the Seahawks should've given the ball to when their Super Bowl vs. the Patriots was on the line--managed to say of these moves:
Follow Shawn Lynch ✔ @MoneyLynch I kno y I didn't get the ball now. Yes Lawd!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 10:31 PM - 5 Feb 2017 19,795 19,795 Retweets 26,008 26,008 likes So twice now the Patriots won a Super Bowl not because their opponents weren out-coached, but because they did the dumb thing: pass when anyone with a brain would hand the ball off. Funny, too, that the refs were very hands off in the playoffs, and from outward appearance, stayed that way in the Super Bowl (13 penalties for the game--only 4 of which were called against the Patriots). Yet it's not necessarily what's called, but when it's flagged that really matters. Like that previously mentioned holding call late in the 4th quarter against the Falcons. A backbreaker if ever there was one. Or like when in the second quarter as the Patriots were being pummeled the refs handed Brady and Co. three straight first downs on 3rd down because of "defensive holding." These calls were clearly made to keep that drive alive and keep the Patriots in contention.
And what about the non-calls? The plays that should've been flagged but magically were not? Such as the game-tying 2-point conversion attempt. Might there have been a big of premature blocking/interference on the Patriots on that play? Sure, they flagged the Falcons for being offsides, but an off-setting call would have put pressure back on the Patriots. But why ruin a good thing, right?
I could break this game down further, but why bother? You (probably) saw it for yourself. Plenty of football fans on Twitter seemed to think the game was a bit shady, that it might have been too much of a production. But it made for great TV--and the Super Bowl is the most watched TV production now, year in and year out. Plus, the Super Bowl's wild finish silenced all those naysayers who criticized the NFL's ratings and their "boring" playoffs leading up to this point. The league ended it's season with a true bang, one that will ring out over its remaining history (however long that may be). What more do fans want? What more entertainment can the league provide?
Remember, it's only a game. The meaning placed upon it is up to you, and you alone.
http://www.thefixisin.net/nfl2016.html
n/a agentf90 2017-02-06
Dwight Clark and "the catch" -- its so obvious! j/k