Yeah, but why Satanism?
34 2017-02-19 by open_ur_mind
I'm fairly new to this sub (under a year since my first visit), and this stuff really intrigues me (CT stuff in general.) I realize that this sub is inundated with Pizzagate shit, but I have a problem stemming from the Pizza/Satanism stuff. Some of the most influential people in our gov't and throughout the world practice this, so there must be some truth to it, correct? What is gained from the Satanism angle associated with this? I find it hard to believe that they just practice it for fun, but maybe that's all it is. Just bored rich sociopaths? Then why all the symbolism and nods to Satanism if it's just a for-funsy thing?
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n/a MemeAmericaGreat 2017-02-19
You need to explore your own personal spiritual beliefs first, so you've got some perspective on the war between Good & Evil.
May I suggest you read this wonderful little book written back in the 20th Century. It did wonders for how I thought;
n/a islandofdelight 2017-02-19
Yes it is real. They are not just bored.
This is a cosmic situation. Light and dark. You don't need to be religious to understand it but you do need to be spiritually minded. We are talking about dimensional realities beyond our common 'senses'.... ET's and Inter-dimensional beings, both positive and negative. We have been manipulated by negative forces for thousands of years and this is allowed to happen because of free will... because we allow this to happen.
These satanists are slaves to parasitic entities. The act of blood ritual and traumatic abuse is an energetic exchange for them. Most of these people are driven by uncontrollable urge, but the higher ups understand the larger context of hidden history.
We are expanding our consciousness to better understand all of this. The first step is letting go of some words and definitions as we know them... Quantum Physics is the science of Spirituality. ETs and IDs are angels and demons... Keep digging and more will be revealed as your consciousness is ready for it.
n/a Hamsterarcher 2017-02-19
+1 on this post. If your new to conspiracies thou, you might find this a bit over the top ect. but all roads lead to this theory, even i didnt believe it at first but the more you looks the more everything make sense. If you trust the universe, it will show you whats correct and whats not. Happy exploring.
n/a Batoutofhellsinki 2017-02-19
And if it's not pure flat out Judea Christian satanic it's a form of esoteric ritual practice. I. E. Thelema, rosecrucian cross, golden dawn, free masons, etc
n/a catapult91 2017-02-19
Alex Jones hits on this on the Joe rogan podcast as well if anyone is interested
n/a open_ur_mind 2017-02-19
So then I have to ask, where does the slippery slope end? One thing begets another, and so forth. So they practice Satanism why? To collude with these "beings" or spirits? What is THEIR motive? It's a slope that never ends, it seems.
n/a islandofdelight 2017-02-19
Short answer, greed and control... which are aspects of the lower dimensions, through the polarity of free will. There are negative groups with empires of worlds under their dominion, while the inhabitants are unaware or mislead. They see us as tools to, a workforce, a food supply.
n/a Novusod 2017-02-19
I agree with everything you said though I wish people wouldn't call it "Satanism." Satan is controlled opposition or more precisely if there is a Satan then that implies there is a God. Nothing has fostered the belief in God more than belief in Satan and hell and demons. Satan is the "sheep dog" that keeps the sheep corralled on the farm. They are all controlled opposition. God and Satan are working together on the same team to keep humanity down in the muck.
http://i.imgur.com/d4tPwgY.jpg (Satanic farce)
http://i.imgur.com/NatxDcH.jpg (Controlled opposition)
There are NO Gods. Are that exists are bunch of parasitic control freaks who like to pretend to be God and force humans to worship them. Our reality is completely upside down. Humans are the Gods of the this planet. We don't need these control freaks BUT they need us to co-create their reality.
People need to stop giving their power away and take their sovereignty back from the parasites. Humanity get off your knees and fight.
n/a islandofdelight 2017-02-19
True 'satan' is a red herring... The word satan is actually a title meaning 'to stand against'. Its only a tool in the false religion control system... The so-called gods of Abrahamic-Mesopotamian religion/mythology (including the Old Testament) were extraterrestrial. And although many of these contributed to our current genetic physical makeup, they are not to be worshipped.
The God that Jesus and other ascended maters speak of is the Source of All... the Universe, the greater field of consciousness and everything in it, which Jesus embodied as 'oneness' or absolute love. The negative groups co-opted these divine truths to make a system of fear, separation and moral contradiction.
All satanism and luciferianism relates to manipulation by demons/archons (or negative ETs) and a larger system that has been coordinated by a plasma-based being called 'Lucifer' (Yaldaboath in Gnostic teachings). The Cabal-Illuminati groups recognize various individual demons by name, and a few negative ET groups as well.
n/a Novusod 2017-02-19
I can always tell who the REALLY woke people when they start talking about the Archons. Lucifer is not Yaldaboath, Yahweh is.
The God of Abraham in the old Testament is Yaldaboath. That is the sacred truth a lot of people can't handle. The big 3 religions Judaism, Christianity, and Islam all worship a plasma parasite called Yaldaboath or in the Gnostic teachings we simply call him the Demiurge. He is not a creator. He is the destroyer of worlds and a parasite. He is the God of plagues, the God of horrors, and the God of death yet humans worship this control freak. This worship must end if humans are ever to fully awaken to their true potential.
I do not really like the term ascended master either as it is a term created by the New age deception. New age is just another religion trying to trick humans into giving up their power and make us worship "THEM." The source is not a god. The source is just a source from which all consciousness emanates. In essence YOU yes YOU are the source. The source is not to be worshiped and neither are the ascended masters to be worshiped either for the are NO masters. No soul is inherently better than another soul for all souls are fractals of the same source.
n/a islandofdelight 2017-02-19
It also has to be noted that some of these names have been reused multiple times by this 'entity' or others. There were more than one 'RAs' for example... the archetype of Satan was most likely based on the Sirian Set (egypt)/Hadad (sumeria) before later being co-opted by Yaldaboath.
You're right about all the major religions worshipping this being, as it's the one one left, playing all the parts. It took over as Yahweh after those groups left the planet... This is actually what we're referring to as Yaldaboath - http://www.sciencealert.com/australian-student-confirms-that-giant-plasma-tubes-are-floating-above-earth
In my understanding, one (or the first) of the Yahwehs was Enlil of the Anunnaki (7th density Sirian-Orions)... Enlil was also Zeus. And it was in their lineage, the house of Anu, that we have most of the Mesopotamian gods, a few Egyptian ones but not all... There were ETs that allowed themselves to be seen as gods, and the ones to whom it happened reluctantly (like the positive oriented Sirian or Pleiadians).
So I think we're in agreement, except for the labels. For what it's worth, my knowledge comes from a Pleiadian perspective. I am Pleiadian starseed myself.
n/a xenmate 2017-02-19
I'm surprised you have the balls to go on reddit again after your "prediction". Must be feeling pretty stupid right about now eh?
n/a Lookingfortheanswer1 2017-02-19
Do you know of any good sources to learn more or people who have this knowledge?
n/a islandofdelight 2017-02-19
I think using many sources is best. Everybody has a piece of the truth. For a general understanding of Satanism, I'd look at Mark Passio's work. Or Michael Tsarion... Ancient History: Graham Hancock... Scientific/spiritualism: Nassim Haramein, Greg Bradden... greater cosmic issues: The Law of One... and by extension the recent work of David Wilcock and Corey Goode.
n/a Lookingfortheanswer1 2017-02-19
What do you think of Svali?
n/a islandofdelight 2017-02-19
Not familiar with her... just looked and found some interesting stuff. Will check it out, thanks!
n/a Lookingfortheanswer1 2017-02-19
No problem!
n/a Eric_Es 2017-02-19
This helped me grasp a bit more:
http://riverbankoftruth.com/2014/03/23/the-final-trick-by-greg-calise/
n/a Z-to-the-A 2017-02-19
I believe the show Stranger Things on Netflix is a great red pill show that reminded me of this
n/a PlayStationVRShill 2017-02-19
IMO, it's not real.
People DO flipping love ritualistic stuff though.
Don't confuse leVey and Lucifarian satanists either.
LeVey is like mean atheist wiccians. Lucifarian is Christians who then decide to worship Satan. These are very rare.
While pedophelia is real, I'm 95 percent sure the occult stuff is a "dog whistle" IM NOT saying that NO high rankings are I to this, just that it's very overblown.
I'm an anti theist. Believe whatever you want, I don't care. I'm against religion as an institution, though.
n/a 1oracle8 2017-02-19
The occult stuff is not a dog whistle. What is interesting is chances are you have participated in a satanic ritual yourself and not even known it. This shit gets passed down for thousands of years. http://humansarefree.com/2015/04/saturn-worshiping-cult-of-el.html
n/a PlayStationVRShill 2017-02-19
I think you're fools. That was a bunch of random factoids and shitty ads. I mean, fuck dude , evil days of the week?
The symbology thing is also ignoring the mathematic principles behind a lot of art,lightly touched on by the divine cube. Oh, I mean evil cube. I plead the scully on that one.
n/a 1oracle8 2017-02-19
Saturday is the sixth day of the week. Saturn has a hexagon on its pole, coincidence?
n/a PlayStationVRShill 2017-02-19
Kinda. I'm not denying it's called Saturday after old pagan stuff.
n/a 1oracle8 2017-02-19
Walton Hannah stated in his book Darkness Visible that the interpretation that Jabulon was a name for God reportedly disturbed Albert Pike, the Sovereign Grand Commander of the Southern Jurisdiction of the Scottish Rite, who, when he first heard the name, called it a "mongrel word" partly composed of an "appellation of the Devil".[15] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jahbulon
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n/a PlayStationVRShill 2017-02-19
I really do appreciate your efforts, however, I don't believe in magic words.
I do recognize that the human mind is capable of at least minor manefiststions, and that rituals are the easiest route for some.
I do not believe in Satan. I could maybe be a deist, but I firmly believe lovecraft had that one right, in that those things are unnameable, beyond humanity's normal perceptions. Hence my oppisition to religion, with its charlatans and con men, claiming to have touched the divine, while merely driving their own agendas and coffers.
Those claiming absolutes, be it knowledge, paths to salvation, or even simple power are forever the enemies of goodness and progress. I'm not saying there's always multiple right answers, just that those who would block them are no friends to mankind.
n/a 1oracle8 2017-02-19
I would say I am with you on that. I think we should join forces against religion, charlatans, con men and secret societies who merely drive there own agenda at the expense of the rest of us.
n/a PlayStationVRShill 2017-02-19
It used to be the focus of this sub.
Apologies for this sidetrack tangent that occurred whilst In This reply box. More of an audience/community one, than a directed personal post.
Honestly, there needs to be a shift to a non pizza specific, NON "conspiracy" sub for the pedophillia problem. As far as news of busts, etc are concerned. Even though I don't think I ever visited the sub, PG should have been migrated, NOT destroyed.
That made it a genuine, PC, liability, image , TYPICAL conspiracy. While I think there's LOTS of disinfo and false flags on that specific topic, I'm all for actual pedo rings being shut down. However, I do differentiate between "statutory " type issues and prepubescent ones. I'm not saying it's ok for adults to bang teens, just that things like that and regular prostiution stings really need to not be linked to the depravity of buggering children. Cover ups are entirely valid here, but fighting pedos needs to be out from the shadows and legitimized, not linked to young flat inside out earth shooting the towers with chemtrails under the orders of satanic alien lizards.
I know people have tried, but I want to assure others that even some skeptics don't like the coverup aspects, and DO want justice and security for the victims. But the focus needs to be the children, not the symbology and occult speculation.
Stick to facts, don't assume motives, etc, and then go for traction.
n/a g3374r2d2 2017-02-19
The occult stuff is real. I don't even understand how this is arguable. Look online any occasions of people into occult practices and doing evil things. Just because we aren't sure if their intentions actually work doesn't mean it isn't real and isn't an influence.
It's the oldest trick in the book. They use your own skepticism and doubt to remain in obscurity so they can keep existing.
n/a PlayStationVRShill 2017-02-19
Occult does not equal evil, for one. Wiccians aren't tricked satanic worshippers of any nonsense like that. I DID acknowledge that there are some Lucifarian satanists. Along with others who will seek power by any means.
I've know plenty of pagans, and many other weird belief holders. The only one that ever frightened me was some Christian voodoo lady. And she was just off he rails to begin with.
While I'm sure actuall really evil people would not disclose this to a normal person, I've been in positions where it likely could have been brought up. I don't know a single Lucifarian satanist, beyond some dumb kids tagging pentagrams, etc.
Most real evil is done by insanity and lack of empathy, coupled with zealotizm. Yes, there's been cases of human sacrifice, etc, but it's damm rare, unless you anti justify it by saying other atrocities were FOR those reasons. But HATE is the reason, not demons, etc.
n/a g3374r2d2 2017-02-19
Then why is the art of advertisement hidden knowledge from the public?
Symbols invoke emotion. It's all about emotion and I suggest everyone re-examine their definitions of things. Doubt seems to hold a cover over us. We are emotionally effected and it is witchcraft regardless of your 21st century adapted desensitivity.
n/a PlayStationVRShill 2017-02-19
It's not hidden from the public, ya'll just don't study it. The best art is because of math, not evil. Now, if you think math and numbers are evil, at least you're consistent..?
Brain hacking? Possibly real. Witchcraft? Hippy dippie bullshit.
n/a g3374r2d2 2017-02-19
You lost me.
n/a benjamindees 2017-02-19
They are not. They want you to think they are, though. Easy to find lots of them when you know how to recognize them.
n/a Hamsterarcher 2017-02-19
The satanism angle comes from back when secret societies first started. anyone who tried to prove anything with science not following the bible or its teaching was a heretic and was punished and slain. The secret societies started members shared information that they had found and read in olds books, especially facts they had found out about the universe and our existence. Aleister Crowley wrote a book about occultism, satanism and lots of dark thinks which i believe was information passed down from the earliest societies. Theres defiantly a good vs evil vibe on mother earth, and i think they believe by doing evil and following the teachings they can reap its rewards. From what our 2000 years on earth have told us is that they people have actually been top of the food chain too. maybe they're onto something with the good vs evil thing? But im starting to believe we have broken the mold and humanity before greed is on the rise. The awakening/turning point in humanities existence.
n/a chrisplusplus 2017-02-19
You actually believe this?
n/a Hamsterarcher 2017-02-19
Hell no, im well aware the earth is billions of years old. i was just giving the years we have tidy records to look back on in our history thats available and see the reoccurring theme of 1% wealthy 99% poor, proberly goes back alot alot longer than that thou.
n/a TonyBeFunny 2017-02-19
Yeah bro everyone knows that the devil created dinosaur fossils to test man's faith. /s
n/a mastigia 2017-02-19
I think cultish activities become appealing to those bored by wealth and power. See Scientology. And who starts cults? Psychopaths. I'm sure if we could see it all it would make sense how it all goes together. The problem is we only get bits and pieces out of context.
And it isn't Satan, it's Moloch. The dark god that literally demands you sacrifice children to it.
n/a tricky2303 2017-02-19
What if Satanism has been hijacked by top elites where they use advance technology to control it's cult of evil and make them think that these energies or entities are real so they do the evil they top elites want and use the rapes and sacrifices as blackmail or in other words no way out , when really they are drugged and technology is used to control and brainwash these lower level elites
n/a open_ur_mind 2017-02-19
I feel like the pedo blackmail would be sufficient to keep them in line. If a world leader is stood at the foot of a shadow gov't, would the shadow gov't need some extra dark energy/forces to drive the point home that they better fall in line?
n/a SecretAgentZero 2017-02-19
I'm totally with you. I was a devout atheist....and I guess still am, but going down this rabbit hole has me believing in the unbelievable. I based my atheism on my research of history, but now ive come to realize how much of the history we've been taught or able to learn is a whole lot of disinformation. So when I learned that these elites are actually satanists, I'm like wtf. What am I missing? I'm sure none of us know the actual truth yet, but the truth is unbelievable. My understanding thus far is that our ancient history is far more complex then we've been led to believe and that these groups of elites have passed down secrets, rituals and traditions that carry a lot of knowledge, technology, etc. to each other. I heard Alex Jones podcast with Joe Rogan and did a bunch of research in the CIA document archive. I truly believe that we could be interdimensional beings and this world we live in is a ruse. There is not a God like we've been lead to believe but a higher level of consciousness. So if it doesn't matter if we're bad or good to get to "heaven", then the elites must have a separate set of morals and goals which we don't have the privilege to understand or become aware of. However, if all this is true then we're pretty much fucked. We'll be used as pawns until we're no longer useful and our society will be reset with the elites in power. (and most of the population wiped out). I don't even know if I can make sense to anyone else, or myself for that matter. All this is very deep, does it matter that we all become aware? Is there anything we can do to retain a comfortable and productive way of life? I don't know any answers. All I know is that my lifelong search for truth and understanding of existence has been shaken and I no longer feel like I have a grasp on anything. I'm even seeking out and valuing information in the bible! It's like there are documents available to us where we can find answers, but have we been too conditioned to be able to truly grasp a whole new world history? I hope I make sense to someone.
n/a Mickey_oNeal 2017-02-19
Same situation. Thought religion was created for social engineering purposes, then you find out these elites believe in Moloch, What?
n/a IceDagger316 2017-02-19
The religions that you know of are created for that purpose.
Their religion, the one that has a name that we don't know...that's theirs. And it's not available to you or I. And if you question the reality of whatever their religion is, you have to ask yourself:
Many of these rich powerful elite blue bloods supposedly believe in this entity (or entities) that supposedly grant them wealth and power in exchange for certain things...and they are very wealthy and very powerful, so...
Is it possible that this thing they worship is real?
n/a Mickey_oNeal 2017-02-19
Has to be, right?
n/a Eric_Es 2017-02-19
This helped me grasp a bit more:
http://riverbankoftruth.com/2014/03/23/the-final-trick-by-greg-calise/
n/a AFuckYou 2017-02-19
Why satanism? You'd have to ask them your self.
Wikileaks has a Hillary email to Rothschild saying she has to sacrifice a chicken to Murloc. The elites very regularly have blood letting, souls cooking, satanic ritual parties.
So you ask why satanism, as if we made it up. Dude, we just read the shit and talk about it. Their the ones actually doing it.
n/a open_ur_mind 2017-02-19
I think you missed my point. I am not saying anyone made up anything, I am asking for opinions on why satanism is correlated with this global pedo ring. There are no logical reasons that I can see from a non-ET perspective. If some shadow gov't wanted to keep their thumb on top of world leaders, the pedo blackmail shit would be sufficient, so the satanism has me extremely intrigued. I just wanted to hear what other people thought on this specific aspect of it.
n/a AFuckYou 2017-02-19
Edited. Thanks for the response
n/a chrisplusplus 2017-02-19
Can you provide source of this email in wikileaks?
n/a AFuckYou 2017-02-19
I mixed it up.
here is an article that discusses it
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FYI boys are often referred to as chickens.
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Here is sacrificing a chicken to molock
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Hillary close ties to Rothschild, penance, and talking about the plans of tony Blair. With a normal citizen, by no means a politician, celebrity, or whatever. They own the world
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discussion about meeting with a Rothschilds
n/a Lookingfortheanswer1 2017-02-19
The way I look at it is that nothing we think we understand is the way we were taught to view things. From what I have found science and magic are the same thing.. there is a scientific base to many things we think of as superstition etc. It's much more complex than that but that gives you an idea of how to look at it all.
n/a Eric_Es 2017-02-19
I posted this as a reply to a comment above.
This one's for you OP.
n/a EternalDisciple 2017-02-19
they say that if you could see yourself with a much higher definition in the mirror you ll never want to see your reflection, maybe it isnt true, but maybe it is why people cant see the fact that the elite are a hyper condensed reflection of the behavior of humanity as a whole, stupid and violent and god and ets have nothing to do with it
n/a FalseFlagsAllAround 2017-02-19
They get gifts in the form of dark demons helping them achieve goals and influence people . Just one aspect .
n/a Nutricidal 2017-02-19
I played around in my youth. I found the darkness that I was looking for was with me all along, and that God and Satan are but two sides of the same coin.
Me and Satan get along fine now. He knows his place.
n/a Damo3000 2017-02-19
Ephesians 6:12 "for we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places"
n/a PlayStationVRShill 2017-02-19
It's not hidden from the public, ya'll just don't study it. The best art is because of math, not evil. Now, if you think math and numbers are evil, at least you're consistent..?
Brain hacking? Possibly real. Witchcraft? Hippy dippie bullshit.
n/a islandofdelight 2017-02-19
Short answer, greed and control... which are aspects of the lower dimensions, through the polarity of free will. There are negative groups with empires of worlds under their dominion, while the inhabitants are unaware or mislead. They see us as tools to, a workforce, a food supply.
n/a Mickey_oNeal 2017-02-19
Has to be, right?