They definitely believe. The CIA believes. The Vatican believes. The Jesuits believe. The Zionist believe. The Bilderbergs believe. The Royals believe. They are quite literally satanists and luciferians. Whether you understand what that means, I have no idea. But it's all very real.
I'm just saying for the perspective of a Muggle, it doesn't matter that they are practicing blood ritual and trauma mind control in the name of Moloch, or whatever the entity is they recognize. They is enough reason to suspect them of horrible things and to investigate them regardless.
there is plenty of evidence.. its under the guise of pizza gate..
the concept of them being satanists is just the same as a christian believing in christ as god but going to war for him; or muhammed.
the real thing to acknowledge is that very high up people are doing FUCKED OFF shit to the youth of the world.
Another thing to recognize is that beneath most of these stories is a root that is true to the ground it is planted in while it grows marshmallows for leaves and has a licorice trunk.
There is nothing inherently "bad" or "evil" about magick and the occult. Just like with technology, it can be used for "good" or "evil" depending on the practicioner. There is also nothing supernatural about magick...it's just a bunch of techniques for meditation/self-empowerment and psychology that people can potentially use to manipulate others or themselves in different ways.
I think a lot of people who are religious tend to believe in the supernatural, and thus they believe in the potential of "black magick" to control others or cause harm to others like voodoo dolls or something. These same people view ALL such practices as inherently evil since it conflicts with their own belief systems such as a monotheistic belief in a "god" who is inherently "good" and omnipotent and should be the only one in control of the fate of mankind.
TLDR: You're right, it's very silly. But I don't think it's entirely a disinfo campaign or anything. I think there are a lot of weak-minded individuals who strongly believe in it. There's an entire "doomsday prophecy"/hardcore religious sect to the conspiracy community who tend to focus more on the spiritual nature than the historical/factual aspect of conspiracies.
Have you ever studied or practiced magick yourself? Like I said, there's nothing supernatural about it. It may work for some people and not for others just like meditation or self-help books might work for some and not for others. We all function differently and can draw benefit from different techniques for self-improvement whether it being going to see a shrink or going to church each week and saying a prayer to "god". That's all magick is.
What's proof? Accepted scientific ideas are overturned almost daily. We can claim to understand very little of what we call reality... Rigid thinking hold you back from understanding that truth is not confined to our limited senses.
it doesn't matter if we believe it or not... THEY believe it.. so to THEM it matters... doesn't matter what we think about it... it's a factual element and belies their greater agenda of evil.
I believe you might be right, however, I think it's important to focus on what we know. If we know about organized ritual abuse (child trafficking etc.) whether or not it falls under the purview of "Occultism" or just "Sick Shit" should hardly matter.
So yes, the scientific approach to discovering the truth (especially concerning topics the TPTB don't want us to know) is certainly the best path forward.
Well right off the bat I can tell you that most these occult circles are a front for other things. For example, many (most?) satanists don't believe that satan does or ever did exist. Many people believe that this was confusion was beought about on purpose so that people associated satanism with devil worship. I would say mission accomplished.
They use him/her as a metaphor for free will, to be able to go down your own path and go againsts the system that was put in place by christianity and TPTB.
They believe that their own might and cunning should take precident over laws and regulations put there by others (kind of similar to what anarchists believe but with some fundamental differences).
Its much to big a subject to explain in a few paragraphs and its also off topic. What I am trying to get across is sometimes these things are not what they seem and that is, perhaps, intentional.
I was torn on this for a long time.. but I think the issue is that science and occult stuff are one and the same. It's just how you look at it. To us the science stuff they are aware of that we aren't seems paranormal. Who knows what crazy stuff they are aware of that we aren't.
I will give you a great example.. rumors of these elites drinking blood and childrens blood - now look at this
The reason there are all these legends becoming true is because we have had this secret knowledge for thousands of years from lost societies and we are just now decoding it... and we in the general population are way behind these elites...
You can say its a cover for organ harvesting and child fucking/drug running.
They've been long connected. Cults running guns and drugs for cia, cults collecting kids, cults of mkultra varieties, etc, etc.
I think it's a "club" thing and many buy into it for real. It binds partners and associates in shady dealings, and it provides cover for on the ground dealings. But indoctrination is still indoctrination so even an lsd/scopolamine expert of mkultra stock can start truly believing the shit, i mean young blood does keep you healthy, and sacrifice a kid and get some stem cells or organs and live. So satan kept him alive, he has that shit in his head, he starts playing along.
But you're right, i dont think its been used solely for religion or evil, but a co-opted tool for the type of stuff these people have always done. Hell, the OSS used crowley, as did other intelligence agencies. It's just another arm of a beast grown too big.
the satanist connection is extremely well documented and accepted. It takes very little research to find this info so I find it hard to believe that anyone who has put a little time into research would call it crazy...so me think you might not be sincere - peace :)
Ive read for hours on it. It's well documented well source, and even if you go through all of it, don't you stop for a second and think what if this is just disinformation, so that when I bring it up to those who aren't conspiracy theorist, they will think I'm insane.
Dude - I totally understand that it is unreasonable nonsense. This is not the realm of normal people, IMO. But, it doesn't matter how hard it is for me to accept, or you. The fact is, they believe it. Accept that. Michael Aquino is a real person. Crowley, real. etc we are surrounded by nonsense :)
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n/a islandofdelight 2017-02-19
You don't have to believe it to understand that they do.
n/a MeTheImaginaryWizard 2017-02-19
What you are doing is speculation.
n/a islandofdelight 2017-02-19
They definitely believe. The CIA believes. The Vatican believes. The Jesuits believe. The Zionist believe. The Bilderbergs believe. The Royals believe. They are quite literally satanists and luciferians. Whether you understand what that means, I have no idea. But it's all very real.
I'm just saying for the perspective of a Muggle, it doesn't matter that they are practicing blood ritual and trauma mind control in the name of Moloch, or whatever the entity is they recognize. They is enough reason to suspect them of horrible things and to investigate them regardless.
n/a MeTheImaginaryWizard 2017-02-19
Please support your claims with evidence.
n/a douchetun 2017-02-19
there is plenty of evidence.. its under the guise of pizza gate..
the concept of them being satanists is just the same as a christian believing in christ as god but going to war for him; or muhammed.
the real thing to acknowledge is that very high up people are doing FUCKED OFF shit to the youth of the world.
Another thing to recognize is that beneath most of these stories is a root that is true to the ground it is planted in while it grows marshmallows for leaves and has a licorice trunk.
n/a danjenator 2017-02-19
Wait, wait, wait... The Zionist are Satanists? How? I mean, how does THAT logical step work? I'm genuinely want to know more about how you got here.
n/a sipofsoma 2017-02-19
There is nothing inherently "bad" or "evil" about magick and the occult. Just like with technology, it can be used for "good" or "evil" depending on the practicioner. There is also nothing supernatural about magick...it's just a bunch of techniques for meditation/self-empowerment and psychology that people can potentially use to manipulate others or themselves in different ways.
I think a lot of people who are religious tend to believe in the supernatural, and thus they believe in the potential of "black magick" to control others or cause harm to others like voodoo dolls or something. These same people view ALL such practices as inherently evil since it conflicts with their own belief systems such as a monotheistic belief in a "god" who is inherently "good" and omnipotent and should be the only one in control of the fate of mankind.
TLDR: You're right, it's very silly. But I don't think it's entirely a disinfo campaign or anything. I think there are a lot of weak-minded individuals who strongly believe in it. There's an entire "doomsday prophecy"/hardcore religious sect to the conspiracy community who tend to focus more on the spiritual nature than the historical/factual aspect of conspiracies.
n/a MeTheImaginaryWizard 2017-02-19
Except there is no proof that any of those things exist.
n/a sipofsoma 2017-02-19
What things are you referring to? Sorry, I just didnt understand what you were trying to say.
n/a Zieldar 2017-02-19
No proof of magic / the occult working
n/a sipofsoma 2017-02-19
Have you ever studied or practiced magick yourself? Like I said, there's nothing supernatural about it. It may work for some people and not for others just like meditation or self-help books might work for some and not for others. We all function differently and can draw benefit from different techniques for self-improvement whether it being going to see a shrink or going to church each week and saying a prayer to "god". That's all magick is.
n/a ViviREbirth 2017-02-19
You could say the same about any religion, it doesn't stop other people believing it.
n/a islandofdelight 2017-02-19
What's proof? Accepted scientific ideas are overturned almost daily. We can claim to understand very little of what we call reality... Rigid thinking hold you back from understanding that truth is not confined to our limited senses.
n/a MeTheImaginaryWizard 2017-02-19
There is a difference between naivety and the scientific thought process.
n/a _______--_--_______ 2017-02-19
it doesn't matter if we believe it or not... THEY believe it.. so to THEM it matters... doesn't matter what we think about it... it's a factual element and belies their greater agenda of evil.
n/a BR8888 2017-02-19
Hit the nail on the head. Know thy enemy.
n/a _______--_--_______ 2017-02-19
n/a wavecollapse 2017-02-19
I believe you might be right, however, I think it's important to focus on what we know. If we know about organized ritual abuse (child trafficking etc.) whether or not it falls under the purview of "Occultism" or just "Sick Shit" should hardly matter.
So yes, the scientific approach to discovering the truth (especially concerning topics the TPTB don't want us to know) is certainly the best path forward.
n/a ViviREbirth 2017-02-19
Well right off the bat I can tell you that most these occult circles are a front for other things. For example, many (most?) satanists don't believe that satan does or ever did exist. Many people believe that this was confusion was beought about on purpose so that people associated satanism with devil worship. I would say mission accomplished.
They use him/her as a metaphor for free will, to be able to go down your own path and go againsts the system that was put in place by christianity and TPTB.
They believe that their own might and cunning should take precident over laws and regulations put there by others (kind of similar to what anarchists believe but with some fundamental differences).
Its much to big a subject to explain in a few paragraphs and its also off topic. What I am trying to get across is sometimes these things are not what they seem and that is, perhaps, intentional.
n/a Edogawa1983 2017-02-19
if they want to believe about a cosmic zombie that will one day come back and take revenge on the Jews, whatever, that's their freedom.
n/a Tetragramatron 2017-02-19
Yeah, like anyone would believe that
n/a Lookingfortheanswer1 2017-02-19
I was torn on this for a long time.. but I think the issue is that science and occult stuff are one and the same. It's just how you look at it. To us the science stuff they are aware of that we aren't seems paranormal. Who knows what crazy stuff they are aware of that we aren't.
I will give you a great example.. rumors of these elites drinking blood and childrens blood - now look at this
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3939242/Do-teenageers-hold-ey-fountain-youth-Blood-human-teens-anti-aging-effects-old-mice.html
The reason there are all these legends becoming true is because we have had this secret knowledge for thousands of years from lost societies and we are just now decoding it... and we in the general population are way behind these elites...
n/a homogenized 2017-02-19
You can say its a cover for organ harvesting and child fucking/drug running.
They've been long connected. Cults running guns and drugs for cia, cults collecting kids, cults of mkultra varieties, etc, etc.
I think it's a "club" thing and many buy into it for real. It binds partners and associates in shady dealings, and it provides cover for on the ground dealings. But indoctrination is still indoctrination so even an lsd/scopolamine expert of mkultra stock can start truly believing the shit, i mean young blood does keep you healthy, and sacrifice a kid and get some stem cells or organs and live. So satan kept him alive, he has that shit in his head, he starts playing along.
But you're right, i dont think its been used solely for religion or evil, but a co-opted tool for the type of stuff these people have always done. Hell, the OSS used crowley, as did other intelligence agencies. It's just another arm of a beast grown too big.
n/a kekbringsthelight 2017-02-19
feels like a phish post to gauge response
n/a dylan522p 2017-02-19
What do you mean?
n/a kekbringsthelight 2017-02-19
the satanist connection is extremely well documented and accepted. It takes very little research to find this info so I find it hard to believe that anyone who has put a little time into research would call it crazy...so me think you might not be sincere - peace :)
n/a dylan522p 2017-02-19
Ive read for hours on it. It's well documented well source, and even if you go through all of it, don't you stop for a second and think what if this is just disinformation, so that when I bring it up to those who aren't conspiracy theorist, they will think I'm insane.
n/a kekbringsthelight 2017-02-19
Dude - I totally understand that it is unreasonable nonsense. This is not the realm of normal people, IMO. But, it doesn't matter how hard it is for me to accept, or you. The fact is, they believe it. Accept that. Michael Aquino is a real person. Crowley, real. etc we are surrounded by nonsense :)
n/a Ashitcunt 2017-02-19
I with ya
n/a Pipe13omb 2017-02-19
Aleister Crowley would probably be a good place to start if you don't believe this occult/satanist shit.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aleister_Crowley
n/a chronikfunk 2017-02-19
What with all the owls, Epstein's island with shrines to Minerva, and the bohemian grove? I think there's something there?
n/a Tetragramatron 2017-02-19
Yeah, like anyone would believe that