is this like when rapgenius.com had a legal battle with google so they pushed their results to the 10th page?

Silenced? Can you no longer type in "naturalnews.com" or have the globalists also broken all of your fingers?

You don't realize that a good portion of internet users (mostly old folks) don't see the difference between Google Search and the address bar.

Is your brain broken? type "site:naturalnews.com" - 0 results.

Mike Adams sells software that helps spammers avoid spam filters, then washes his hands of it by blaming the people who fall for spam. Man of the people, my right foot.

Here is one.

Looks like they were acquired by another outfit recently.

Welcome to /r/conspiracy, where asking for sources earns you downvotes!

He makes claims like "lies of dangerous medicine" in order to sell his alternative products.

It's literally in the OP article.

Well, aside from the fact that there is no Mercury in any routine vaccination (except trace amounts in the influenza vaccine - well and truly below concerning levels and in the much less dangerous form of thimerosol), he also attempts to spread fear and misinformation about science-based medicine in order to appeal to the naturally suspicious.

He does it purely to sow distrust and fear to sell his alternative products. In any case you cannot deny the massive conflict of interest in running a news site that is based around criticising science based medicine, whilst simultaneously selling the items he proposes as an alternative on the very same website

Medical journals are peer reviewed. All modern medicine undergoes independent peer review at the research level before being approved by an independant organisation prior to being sold.

Regardless of the problems that exist with that system, it is still a far far more thorough vetting system than is utilised by NaturalNews or any other alternative medicine advocate site.

You're comparing apples to oranges

I "knock" him because he spreads pseudoscientific nonsense and claims it as truth. No amount of other good deeds can make up for the incredible danger of spreading anti-vaccine rhetoric, for example. That literally endangers lives

As I said, regardless of your problems with the pharmaceutical system it is far more thoroughly vetted than anything Adams posts.

What you're effectively saying is that a system specifically designed to ensure the safety and effectiveness of medical products, and one with numerous layers of independant peer review, is inferior to NaturalNews in terms of accountability and integrity because Adams seems like a good bloke.

That's fair enough, but to be frank how you see Mike as a person has absolutely no bearing on how legitimate the information he shares is.

"fact" that there is "no" mercury in "any" vaccination

except there is in flu vaccines, oh and also there's thimerosal (ethyl mercury) but don't worry it's safe!

plus there's WAY more in a can of tuna

Any med school freshman can tell you the difference in danger when ingesting a toxin vs. injecting it (not to mention it's combined with Polysorbate 80 which thins the blood-brain barrier and allows the virus and other vaccine adjuvants such as Aluminum to cross it more easily).

Sorry champ, that's a straw man.

First, I said there is no Mercury of any form in any regular vaccine but thimerosal, which is in trace amounts in the influenza vaccine. Not thimerosal AND Mercury as your post implies.

Injected or otherwise doesn't matter, that amount of Thimerosal in the influenza vaccine is totally harmless.

There is absolutely no glyophosphate in any vaccine. You are engaging in pure speculation with no supporting evidence

I guarantee you Mike Adams would ever tolerate any debate or questions as to whether the many overpriced alternative medicine cures he sells work.

When you're children or loved ones get sick, buy his "cures" if you think they all work, I'm going with modern medicine.

And so it begins!

https://encrypted.google.com/search?sclient=psy-ab&site=&source=hp&btnG=Search&q=natural+news&oq=&gs_l=&pbx=1

It worked fine for me but I use encrypted.google if I actually need their results which might not work the same. There's always startpage.com.

It's definitely blacklisted. I can't get to the site from google at all, not even clicking your link. It has been scrubbed from google.

Weird, this is why I don't normally trust them with internet searches though unless necessary. I use encrypted.google because my Govt. are snooping fucks and I don't want .co.uk results trying to sell me 2 pages of products before possibly giving me the results I need.

Happy cake day BTW.

Alex Jones also got blackballed:

Yesterday, InfoWars was blackballed by AdRoll.com, an online advertising distribution company. According to Alex Jones, the blacklisting by AdRoll will cost InfoWars $3 million in annual revenues, possibly causing InfoWars to abandon plans of opening a Washington D.C. bureau to cover the Trump administration with real news (instead of the fake news from CNN and elsewhere).

So there is a war going on right now to silence alt media and keep fake news propaganda going

I can't think why they'd be against an honest and open representation of the contents of the internet.

Encrypted.google.com is the same thing as google.com now. It was for testing HTTPS before that was the standard.

It's still possibly a different server/backend presumably as it has a different url, I wonder if it doesn't get the same updates as the main site. Definitely not an expert however so you may be right.
I just like that it doesn't automatically reroute me to the .co.uk domain.

It also doesn't have any of the animation stuff of regular google so something's still different there. https://encrypted.google.com/

never knew about that one, thanks.

Maybe I'll be using Bing if this is going to be the trend for google.

Weird, it doesn't for me, well we've certainly established that google is maddeningly inconsistent.

Seems people are seeing a different encrypted.google.com depending on location. USA appears to get the doodle laden standard front page, while you in UK get the beta server.

I'm OK with this, it's like going back 10 years to when google just worked.

i remember, clean and simple.

Cheers man, thanks!

As I said, it worked fine for me, maybe it's a regional thing? UK here.

With all we know about Google's impartiality, CIA affiliations and DARPA origins it's astonishing people still use them IMO. I'd consider buying one of their Nexus phones but only second-hand and then only to install Copperhead OS on.

Anyone who needs to persuade people their M.O. is don't be evil probably is evil. Post this to /NoCorporations too, they'd like this.

/r/altnewz r/DescentIntoTyranny r/evolutionReddit r/media_criticism r/propaganda
All of these would probably like this post. I recommend re-pasting per sub rather than crossposting as you can't be accused of brigading or vote manipulation then.

No probs, it's a good find.

Actually it works for me as well. Maybe it's just on your systems.

Working for me in the US.

I'm in the US and your link worked for me.

stop lying

You are getting results that link to naturalnews.com?

Whats your relationship to NN? You were the one posting many links to them daily before, right?

no, must be thinking of someone else then. weird NN was google banned. did they post anything cutting edge today?

Thanks for this. I have been using duckduckgo, but I will check it out. Google can eat a dick.

I stopped using duckduckgo when they joined up with Yahoo who are not to be trusted either. Startpage works quite well and they seem to have a good privacy policy.

No that's bad advice, Startpage is just a Google scraper. The results you get on Startpage are the exact same you get on google.

DuckDuckGo is an independent search engine that crawls the web themselves.

Startpage results are just as censored as google.

Startpage is just a Google scraper

Startpage doesn't seem to scrape as much of the blatant advertising spam that plagues google, it also seems to respect your privacy and doesn't treat you as a commodity.

Start Page is "Enhanced By Google".

Which means they use their results without actually sending Google the sensitive bits of your data. I think.

swe here, doesnt show up. WIERD. maybe some legal battle ?

They also run www.goodgopher.com, an alt-news search engine. Might be related too.

i dont understand. Did Natural News threaten to take down infowars? or what do you mean? sorry ive never heard of natural news until just now. who is mike?

ok but why would Google blacklist Mike for refusing to smear Alex? that seems like a long shot. there are plenty of sites smearing Alex already and plenty of sites that dont. i don't really see the correlation

yeah it's fishy no doubt I just don't see the correlation to what you're saying about Alex. how do you know that is the reason Google blacklisted the site? clearly you must agree it's kind of far fetches that would be enough reason to blacklist from google.

seems to me natural news hit the nail on something huge. i don't think it was alex Jones tho.. seems to big of a consequence

This is it for sure... NONE of all the other 200 "fake news" sites has been blacklisted... So far the only blacklisted sites were just piracy-related domains..

You mean besides the deleting of fake news? The other reason could be because they punish fake news sides by deleting all the content of that page. After all 90% of it was fake news and it's cheaper to just delete it all instead of hiring people to check all 140000 pages.

Why does it matter ?

It's censorship .

CNN just lost a major lawsuit due to reporting fake news...maybe Google should censor them

Google takes down fake news pages and this one is considered to be one as most of it's news is just fake and made up.

So much medical quackery, even other quacks call it quackery.

Google doesn't like alternative facts as they are straight out lies. So all alternative fact news hopefully will get taken down.

It's a much larger conspiracy against Free Speech. Drudge went on Alex Jones last year and revealed from his Supreme Court sources that THEY we're moving against the First Amendment. Everything you are seeing with "fake news" and censoring websites like this is a part of that agenda.

all instances? their facebook still shows up

Gee, makes you wonder huh.....

Woah woah woah

Not a fan of the site, at all.

But I am a fan of intellectual freedom and free exchange of ideas.

Google is shit, I should really ditch them.

They just removed another fake news page, so what?

So go fuck yourself, that's what.

You should have been warned many time before this so this is your warning.

Rule #10: Don't attack other users.

You should probably spend more time trying to fix the obvious infiltration of your sub before it decends further into shill hell rather than all that effort protecting peoples feelings. You know you're like the only mod who whines about pizzagate posts right? You don't have much cred in your own sub for that fact alone dudebro.

Yes I know, you follow PizzaGate and everyone is a shill. I've heard it before, just don't call other users shills. Thanks.

Man I'm still waiting on my first shill check

Is it like ad revenue where it's based on comment views/votes or do I bill them my time by the hour?

Seriously getting paid to apply common sense and rational thinking to conversations would be sweet

I'm just here because - despite my concerns about US company deciding what to elide from search results - I'm delighted to see dangerous misinformation like NN get shut down. Kids, the elderly and the weak are dying as these charlatans make money from misinformation, and erode herd immunity with it. Instead of believing that corporation's and governments are capable of inhuman levels of competence, collaboration, and secrecy, consider that groups like NN visibly profit from selling all kinds of ineffective crap after undermining conventional medicine.

The irony is that you guys genuinely believe in what you are saying, and I respect that you are doing what you think is right. And it's a deeper irony that you probably think the same of anyone who believes in the scientifically proven findings of academia and medicine...

Do I get a shill check? Can you make it out to medicine sans frontiers, that'd be grand.

When did I attack other users?

You didn't...

Can you point out an example of them reporting something known to be false?

So this will get downvoted to hell here but, I'd highly question the validity of any place that continuously questions vaccines. I totally believe in a lot of the popular conspiracies and love reading about them and keeping an open mind, but I have an extremely hard when it comes to vaccines. I mean fuck, the guy that started the whole "vaccines cause autism" thing lost his medical license and had that article retracted because of how damaging it was. Studies are showing that signs of autism are apparent before the children are even born and definitely before they receive their first vaccines. Every Biology professor I've ever encountered has talked about how damaging that report was, how important vaccines are, and how it's just unfortunate people think vaccines can cause problems like that.

I thought the vaccine stuff was ridiculous once upon a time too... tbh I'm not well versed on the issue but the pushback from the purveyors of the official narrative is apparent. The fact that no rational discussion regarding the the arguments of both sides has been presented to a large audience is telling too. I think that while the vaccinations may be doing an important health service they may also have less desirable effects which may be able to be avoided.

In Germany if you get sick from vaccine the government will pay all your health care costs forever. But if you get sick because your parents didn't want to get you vaccinations the health insurance will kick you out at the age of 18. So the anti vaxxers that believe so much in not needing vacations fake them so they could claim that a child got sick because of a double faulty dose. If a physician is found to fake that he of course will lose his license.

Why do German anti vaxxers fake vacations if they believe they are not needed? Doesn't this already show that they are wrong?

So I'm just gonna agree to disagree. Being skeptical of something is totally within ones rights and I have no problem with it. The problem comes when people ignore facts just to keep pushing their opinion. Like the whole anti-vax thing started because of the supposed link to autism, but when that was debunked it just shifted to the vague "it might have undesirable effects" claims. While it's entirely possible, at that point it's just people wanting to be anti-vax and clinging to any possible reason against it. They aren't anti-vax for any real reason other than distrust, which is fine, but call it what it is. No reproducible results have shown that vaccines cause autism, and I haven't seen any showing that they are to blame for anything really. There is no rational discussion because the reason behind anti vaccines at this point isn't rational (I don't mean that as an insult). It isn't based on any science or study, it's fear based. Despite the science showing that it isn't really causing any issues, especially the initial one of autism that started the whole movement, people are still against it. You cannot have rational arguments against something when there is practically zero science supporting your claims, I'm sorry. It's like arguing that cigarettes aren't that bad because there is no discussion of their benefits. Or global warming is debatable because the anti-climate change people aren't getting enough air time. Meanwhile, vaccine-preventable diseases such as whooping cough have seen rises. I write this as peacefully as possible and am not trying to flame anyone or start anything overly negative <3

Actually he lost his license and the article got retracted because they found out that he took money from a lawyer that wanted to sue the pharma companies. So his article was not only biased but falsified and couldn't be reproduced.

These guys all do the conspiracy thing and don't try to disprove their own hypothesis, they instead try to prove it.

That's why they have so much backwards bullshit and get all insulted when there is a dissenting view to their bullshit. Seriously, one of the posts on the frontpage of this sub is

"Cabal on suicide watch"

Seriously.

After intense pharmaceutical lobbying, the NCVIA was passed in 1986, all liability from vaccine injury was removed from manufacturers. This means the government and the CDC became liable for paying out vaccine injuries. By 2000 there were so many vaccine-induced autism claims at the VICP they calculated that paying out a good portion of them would cost over a trillion dollars. The CDC was essentially duped by these corporations. Now they can never admit a connection between vaccines and autism because doing so would make the government insolvent.

The current head scientist of the CDC has already admitted that he was forced to present fraudulent data in a study to coverup a causal link between MMR vaccination and autism. Here is the legal statement made by his lawyer. There are also many recorded phonecalls with a fellow scientist, Brian Hooker, where he clearly states there is a causal link and he was forced to alter the data. This study, by the way, is the most cited study used by others to push the lie that there is no link. Thompson's confession invalidates a ton of now debunked studies. It was also the study used to push the omnibus bill to throw out all VICP court cases of vaccine induced ASD. This is despite the fact that the VICP had already paid out millions of dollars to individuals suffering brain damage from vaccines, resulting in an ASD diagnosis.

Now, that leads me to what ASD actually is. There is no blood test to diagnose ASD, nor is there a genetic test. An ASD diagnosis is purely behavioural. So what causes the behaviours seen in ASD patients? Widely speaking, brain damage. ASD is essentially a behavioural gauge for different levels of brain damage. Now, how does brain damage occur that causes ASD? In a variety of ways. What I'm trying to get at, is that ASD is such a broad set of behavioural characteristics, that a lot of different issues can be the cause. For instance, improper prenatal development of the cerebellum or early childhood cerebellum injury is stated to be one of the major factors in an ASD diagnosis. Now, encephalitic fever is an admitted side effect of many vaccines. I know this because my brother nearly died from an encephalitic fever caused by the MMR. Sometimes the brain swells up so much that it causes permanent brain damage. And guess what diagnosis is common after suffering brain damage? The effects of autism can be broadly defined as an impairment in the development of the brain, that is why autism doesn't suddenly manifest in adults, once the brain is developed a trigger cannot onset autism. And that is the reason why we see so much regressive autism now, a normally developing child with a predisposition can have a bad reaction to a vaccine, which will act as the environmental trigger for the onset of autism. Yes, they have found a certain gene that, when transcribed improperly, predisposes an individual to autism. Similar to many diseases, autism has a genetic factor that can become expressed through an environmental stressor. The claim that autism is purely genetic is absolutely bunk for a couple reasons: autistic people are much less likely to have children, so we wouldn't be seeing such an explosion in prevalence. Some of this increase in prevalence is definitely due to the change in diagnostic criteria for ASD, asperger's and autism used to be classified differently, now they are two parts of the same spectrum. I can see this accounting for a 2-fold, maybe even up to a 10-fold increases in prevalence, but we have seen a 400-fold increase in prevalence over 30 years. This is an epidemic, and purely genetic diseases don't cause epidemics.

So, what about environmental stressors? Thimerosal is a bit of a red herring. It is a potent neurotoxin, but it has always been more implicated in neurodevelopmental disorders like tics, I believe it was only a contributing factor to ASD, not the cause. Besides, it was the MMR that has always been the main culprit in ASD regression (TDAP to a lesser extent), and I don't think it has ever contained more than trace thimerosal. I don't think any one ingredient in vaccines directly cause the ASD, but I do think some of them synergise and work like a perfect storm. When companies began removing thimerosal from most scheduled vaccines, they compensated by upping the dose of aluminum. Aluminum is another bioaccumulative neurotoxin that has similar effects in the body as aluminum. If you didn't know, manufacturers often used to use live-virus vaccines. They worked well, but the problem with a live virus is the innoculated can often become a vector for transmission, also called shedding. So they began using dead or acellular virus vaccines, the problem is that sometimes the immune system won't recognize the dead virus as a threat. So, manufacturers added in aluminum, a potently toxic heavy metal that invokes an enormous immune response. This allowed the immune system to recognize the virus, but it had consequences.

"Aluminum causes an oxidative stress within brain tissue.[13] Since the elimination half-life of aluminum from the human brain is 7 years, this can result in cumulative damage via the element's interference with neurofilament axonal transport and neurofilament assembly." Blaylock et al suggest that the heterogeneous symptoms of autism spectrum disorders have a connection with dysregulation of glutamatergic neurotransmission in the brain along with enhancement of excitatory receptor function by proinflammatory immune cytokines as the underlying pathophysiological process."

Aluminum adjuvants are put in vaccines because they provoke an enormous immune response, and research suggests in some individuals they provoke a prolonged autoimmune response. Aluminum in the brain disrupts glutamatergic neurotransmission, and provokes a prolonged inflammatory response by immune cytokines, this is exactly what Blaylock et al describes as the physiological processes involved in autism.

So, similar to mercury, the neurodegenerative effects of aluminum are the same as what we see in autism. There's actually a lot more to this. Aluminum is used to essentially trick the body into recognizing a virus, sometimes this process works a little too well. There are many other adjuvents in vaccines: MSG, egg albumen, peanut oil substrate; aluminum can also trick the body into recognizing these as threats. It's a perfect explanation for the massive rise in allergies. For what is an allergy? An unnecessary immune response to a foreign substance. In fact, I believe this is an underlying cause of a whole host of autoimmune conditions on the rise such as asthma. Vaccines and the concept of autoimmunity are inextricably linked.

There's one last part to this: I'd like to point you to this study. Like Wakefield, many other researchers were noticing massive gastrointestinal inflammation in autistic patients. The study found that the body was essentially mounting a prolonged inflammatory assault against what it thought was measles, except measles wasn't there. Another instance of autoimmunity. This is what I mean when I say a perfect storm. In genetically predisposed individuals, a hyper-immune response will be mounted to vaccine strain measles virus. This prevents the gut from absorbing nutrients to send to the developing brain. Along with this, aluminum travels to the brain in a cumulative fashion (it's half-life is 7 years) and causes neurodegeneration. This is why we have so many reports of young children that start off with sensitivities to vaccines but they continue developing normally until they get the MMR, where the inflammatory response in the gut and the toxic load in the brain becomes too much for it to continually developing normally.

http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v542/n7641/full/nature21369.html

Essentially, you can identify the changes leading to autism by comparing brain development between the ages of 6 to 12 months. So essentially, autism has already started way before vaccines are given.

That's an interesting article. Please don't think that my post is trying to infer that all autism is caused by vaccines. I would say that a very low percentage of overall autism cases in a certain subset of genetically predisposed or hypersensitive individuals are caused by vaccines. Like, maybe even as low as 1 in 500 autism cases. That article only had a sample size of 100 individuals. Really, it is similar to the point I made about improper development of the cerebellum being another big predictor of autism.

The only study we need to put this issue to rest is a study on autism prevalence in vaccinated and unvaccinated populations, but the CDC refuses to do it.

The problem is that there's no consistent mechanism that would suggest that.

There have been a number of studies of this very thing. And thy've pretty consistently found no link at all.

eg: https://www.autismspeaks.org/science/science-news/no-mmr-autism-link-large-study-vaccinated-vs-unvaccinated-kids

A lot of studies are designed to get specific results, I'd have to see the study itself and assess conflicts of interest of the authors. One thing I can say is the study only started testing at 2 years of age. The Thompson study found increased risk was directly related to age of receipt of MMR and it was the younger kids (12-15 months) that were at increased risk. The fact that this study starts at 2 years when first MMR receipt is usually 12-15 months is the first red flag I see.

Studies say a lot of different things.

The dubious Verstraaten study, which was also doctored but still showed some highly questionable results

This study shows prenatal exposure to metals can play a risk. I've also seen other rat studies that show when a pregnant rat is injected with metals, 2-5x more end up in the fetal brain than the adult rat.

Another one showing a clear link to heavy metals, even correlating the severity of autism to heavy metal body burden

Not related to vaccines, but demonstrates that proximity to environmental mercury is a predictor of autism

Is there any way you can explain this study? Why are elevated measles antibodies consistently found in autistic children? What is the connection here?

Because there are other studies that further confirm this peculiarity, and go into detail. Autistic children produce a specific measles antibody, and they show autoimmunity to myelin sheathing, which is the coating protein on neurons.

You are absolutely right, though. Lots of large population cohort studies show no link between MMR and Autism, that is why I say the association must be rare. I've looked into some of them and more than a couple reference Destefano studies. Frank Destefano was the lead of Thompson's team and was the specific person to force Thompson to alter data and destroy the original data. If others are using Destefano's data in their studies I would immediately question the validity of that data.

The Thompson study showed a greater risk in vaccinations between 24 and 36 months not 12-15.

"The overall distribution of ages at MMR vaccination among children with autism was similar to that of matched control children"

"Similar proportions of case and control children had been vaccinated before 18 or before 24 months"

"More case (93.4%) than control children (90.6%) were vaccinated before 36 months"

Not that the study showed an increased risk, it showed that parents of case children more slightly more likely to have had their children vaccinated between 24 & 36 months.

This fits with the methodology shown.

"Because the recommended age of first MMR dose administration is 12 to 15 months, and 4 to 6 years for the second dose, relative risks (RRs) were estimated to compare ASD status in children receiving 1 dose of MMR at ages 2, 3, 4, and 5 years and 2 doses at age 5 years vs those who were unvaccinated at those ages (2-dose RRs at age 4 years would only include those children who received the second dose by their fourth birthday). Separate RRs were estimated for children with older siblings with and without ASD. Since no children were lost to follow-up before reaching age 5, unadjusted RRs were reported as cumulative incidence rate ratios by taking the ratio of the proportion of children who had an ASD diagnosis in an exposed group (either 1 MMR dose or 2 MMR doses) to the proportion of children who had an ASD diagnosis in the unvaccinated group at a given age."

I can explain that study by 1. it doesn't show them consistently found elevated in autistic children. It showed some autistic children had elevated antibodies in a population of 88. The best explanation is the comprehensive review including that study which shows there really is no causal link. http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1750946709000075

Finally, given that that structural changes in the brain resulting in autism are being formed between 6 to 12 months of age and that the MMR receipt is given after 12 months pretty much puts the nail in coffin between any links.

Good post. I'd only add that the information left out of the initial 2004 report was that African American males vaccinated before 36 months were at a slightly increased risk of autism. When Hooker published his now-redacted re-analysis, he said that African American males vaccinated before 36 months were 3.4 times more likely to have autism.

Adding to that, many experts slammed his re-analysis. Don't feel like summarizing so here's what one site said:

"Experts say Hooker’s study was fundamentally flawed. There’s no mention of how many children were included in his analysis –- an omission that Vanderbilt University biostatistician Bill Dupont called “extremely rare” –- and he failed to properly control for factors known to contribute to autism risk.

“All he did was one analysis and said there are no other variables that might be impacting this,” said Dr. Max Wiznitzer, a pediatric neurologist at UH Rainbow Babies & Children’s Hospital in Cleveland, Ohio. “You can’t just analyze data without asking questions.”

Experts said it’s also not clear how Hooker used the CDC data set, which was not designed for the type of statistical breakdown he performed, to draw his conclusions.

“The general rule of statistics is that the way you analyze the data needs to follow from the way data was collected,” Dupont said. “Hooker ignores [the CDC’s] study design entirely.”

Dupont said the data set wasn't ideal for either study because it didn't include when the children were diagnosed with autism. Some of the children could have been vaccinated after they developed autism –- a possibility that Dupont said would have prompted an overestimate of the risk of autism associated with the MMR vaccine."

Another important note is that Thompson says no matter what, he thinks vaccines save countless amounts of lives, that he would never suggest a parent avoid getting their child of any race vaccinated, and that the risks are vastly outweighed by the benefits. Not too invested in this topic at this point so gonna end here, but I'd just say that while there might be a link to vaccines and autism, I think that vaccine-induce autism has a very small chance of happening, and certainly not frequently enough to say to hell with vaccines. It probably would occur in someone predisposed to the disorder. Either way, hopefully research continues to be done and hopefully there will be more studies showing a possible link (as the ones you pointed to were from like '03 and '04).

I agree, I don't think vaccine induced autism happens that often, and there is a lot of study that would rule out vaccination being the major factor causing autism. The problem is: the absolute complete denial of a link whatsoever. And the crucifixion of anyone who suggests this link, no matter how rare it is. It is so blatantly anti-scientific.

These people are attacking Hooker, but Hooker was bound to the confines of the study itself. He wasn't controlling for confounding variables because they weren't there in the study. The attack on Hooker is extremely disingenuous. If you look more into it there are a lot of recorded phonecalls between Hooker and Thompson, everything Hooker found was exactly what Thompson was trying to point out. Thompson also released the original records for the study, which clearly show other members of the CDC forcing him to alter data points to get the statistical significance down. The fact that they saw the connection from the beginning and did everything in their power to cover it up.. it's an affront to science. It's absolutely disgusting. In the study itself, the white population also had an increased risk, but it fell just within the limit of not being statistically significant. There was another way of looking at the dataset and looking at "isolated autism," which I believe was autism cases without any other neurodevelopmental disorders, these isolated cases were extremely correlated to the MMR shot, like 700% odds ratio or more.

The CDC knows that the one study they must do to settle the debate for good is autism prevalence in vaccinated vs unvaccinated populations, but they refuse to do it.

I wanna give you gold, but reddit gold goes to Reddit Admins, and u/spez by proxy :(

(btw, F u u/spez)

but I have an extremely hard when it comes to vaccines

Yes, because you've been conditioned to accept them as the holy grail of immunology and to regard Jonas Salk as a saint. Vaccines are thus completely infallible and use of the word in a negative sense leads you to immediately discredit the user.

Yeah I'm just gonna stick with science on this one. Try to call it brainwashed or whatever you want, doesn't matter to me. I've been conditioned to believe facts, science, peer reviewed results, etc, not unprovable statements from people with practically no knowledge of what they're arguing about

Repeatedly advocating chelation therapy and what amounts to bleach enemas as treatment for autism. Propping up David "gravity is a toxin" Wolfe. Openly pushing preposterous panacea style "cures" for everything from obesity to cancer, all of which just happen to be available without prescription or side effects. Hilarious levels of self referencing articles - as in articles that literally link to themselves as a source reference. Et fuckin cetera.

Repeatedly advocating chelation therapy and what amounts to bleach enemas as treatment for autism. Propping up David "gravity is a toxin" Wolfe. Openly pushing preposterous panacea style "cures" for everything from obesity to cancer, all of which just happen to be available without prescription or side effects. Hilarious levels of self referencing articles - as in articles that literally link to themselves as a source reference. Et fuckin cetera.

What the fuck? Is that real? Jesus fucking Christ.

And anti vaccine, suggested scientists involved in genetic engineering be murdered, sells just about every sort of woo you can think of, including bullshit that's supposed to protect you from cell phones, wifi, EMF, etc. All sorts of water filtration scams, iodine for the Fukushima disaster years after it happened, even though the radioactive iodine it's supposed to protect from only has a half life of a few days.

He's one of the most prolific charlatans on the internet, and his YouTube channel(owned by Google) is doing just fine as of right now.

Remember people, just like Monsanto, the Pharmaceutical companies (with the hundreds of billions they've made peddling their poisons) have lots of paid shills gatekeeping around reddit Correcting The Record with their talking points and propaganda. All BS meant to confuse the free minded individual.

Not saying it's impossible but is there any actual evidence for this? CTR is documented. Anything documentation for industry internet shills?

Why are you protecting one of the most prolific charlatans in the United States?

Unfortunately, I had no problem finding one of his many marketing pages https://www.healthrangerstore.com/

Natural news and News Target are fake news, they're marketing websites.

People suffer needlessly, die, waste their hard earned money because of his fake news.

Stop worshiping that charlatan.

http://govtslaves.info/forbes-com-runs-hit-piece-against-independent-media-giant-naturalnews-com/

I think the real question here is why are you trolling this thread spreading MSM talking points?

His sales sites are still up, unfortunately. He's free to continue misleading, ripping people off, and selling sick people things that won't make them better.

You mean like the petrochemical companies do to dispute the science of climate change?

It doesn't matter what it says. People who want to see it should be able to read it.

And what is stopping you from typing in the URL and visiting the site directly? Google is a private service provider, if you dislike their policies, don't use them. It would be a different story if Google would be directly attacking them by ddos or similar.

Which just means they are not neutral

They are. It's not removed from the Internet. Google has no obligation to include it as a search result.

That shit deserves to be banned. Endangering peoples health is outside the bounds of free speech in my book.

You deserve to be decapitated. Endangering peoples God-given rights are outside the bounds of acceptability in my book. Off with your head.

Free speech isn't all encompassing, nor is it a god given right. It's a human right.

You're both wrong. It's a natural right neither necessarily handed down by god or dependent on a man made system. If a person believes god made everything then he would think god made natural rights as well and I see problem with that but God is not required. And they are a philosophical concept and not a legal one. Your right to life persists even if a government attempts to deny you that right.

Free speech, as well as other forms of freedom, exist until someone uses their power over others to end them. That's why we choose to protect them. We should protect people from those who would use their freedom to remove the freedom of others. We should not allow authority the power to squash freedom for other reasons. It is a slippery slope of misplaced trust in authority. If they feel so concerned, let them exercise their freedom of speech to warn us, not to bully us or shut us up.

So speaking "outside the bounds of acceptability" = decapitation.

Sounds less like MAGA and more like ISIS

Removed. Rule 4.

Hundreds of them. Easily. They are a hive of misinformation and rubbish published to enable them to sell ineffective 'supplements'.

Here is one way to find some critiques of some of their work: http://rbutr.com/rbutr/WebsiteServlet?requestType=browse&amp;tagId=181983

I'm sure Google will be forthcoming with thousands more examples.

The "so what" goes hand in hand with anytime Facebook controls the stories you see on your feed and really any manipulation of information.

Yes today it was a garbage website, but tomorrow it might not be. This is the danger of monopolies, because this extends beyond your desktop. It's your phone, tablet, etc. How many people are really going to give up using Google, especially in cases of it being natively installed on their phone?

Once upon a time you didn't have to take off your shoes and belt to get on an airplane, now you have to have a full body xray scan and potential anal probe.

Hegelian dialect... Problem/Reaction/Solution. Escalate in small steps so people are less likely to dissent to change.

You're lucky we don't still castrate retards.

That's not the point at all. It's about the idea that Google, which has contracts with the government, can censor websites based on ideas (even if those ideas are shit)

What's next ? InfoWars? Brietbart? Fox?

The point is that Google doesn't do what the government does but what they believe is right. And in this case they removed fake news.

And it seems you just acknowledged that Infowars and Breitbart is fake news.

Mike Adams has his own search engine, and if you're truly a "fan of intellectual freedom and ideas", you should have intense hatred for Mike Adams.

I guarantee you he wouldn't allow any dissent whatsoever on any online forums he's involved with.

He would NEVER debate an expert in medicine publicly. He would NEVER publicly debate authorities he trashes on his sites.

Yeah he's a cunt.

Intense hatred is for wicked-hearted scum.. and shills like you.

I care that he rips people off. You either play a part in it yourself, or also waste your money on the tons of crap he sells.

I use Duckduckgo.com

But I am a fan of intellectual freedom and free exchange of ideas.

I am as well, but we should also recognize how the free exchange of ideas can be used to subvert the very ideals it is trying to uphold. When people lack adequate access to good sources of information they're vulnerable to group-think and external manipulation. Both of these are apparent in sites like Natural News, that is knowingly and purposely spreading misinformation and pseudoscience.

What have you done to bring the truth to light. It's easy to troll reddit and criticize those who've taken proactive action. People like you make me sick.

Look through my post history and you'll see my consistent efforts to do exactly that. Just because a counter-narrative exists doesn't make the status quo opinion a "lie" and the counter-opinion the "real truth." The real world is more complex than that.

The truth on vaccines is that their benefits are tangible, measurable, and have a solid scientific and medical foundation. There may be issues around the monetization and distribution of those vaccines, but the OVERWHELMING weight of evidence is in favour of their efficacy. People pushing a counter-narrative based on anti-establishment distrust and faulty science are causing a real, measurable harm to the safety of our communities. I know that might be hard for someone emotionally invested in the counter-narrative to accept, but people with the requisite medical knowledge to form truly reasoned and informed opinions on this issue have (independent of pressure by big pharmaceutical companies) looked at this stuff and determined it's legitimacy.

When I Google "natural news" I'm just finding massive amounts of articles discrediting naturalnews and its founder.

Because he did stats buffing and the system killed it.

FYI, it came up for me when I googled it.

I am. West coast.

How do I send you a screenshot on my phone? It came up right away for me.

Shit, I shared it to the main part by accident. Yikes, well, it's in new.

It's not working for me either.

Am somewhere in Asia right now, just checked. google gives me that shady natural.news site. The fuck is this shit?

site:naturalnews.com"

0 results on google UK

No it didn't. But you already knew that.

Natural.news is not affiliated with naturalnews.com

The .com variation has been removed completely

Didn't come up for me in Illinois.

I live in Illinois. Google search for "naturalnews.com" did not show naturalnews.com. Natural.news is not the same site. DuckDuckGo search for "natural news" yielded naturalnews.com. It was at the top of the list.

I am not endorsing naturalnews.com, but I know that putting trust for this type of censorship in the hands of search engines like Google is a horrible mistake. It can easily lead to censorship of dissent.

Why are we so prone to misplaced trust in authority? What is wrong with our species? Is it a deficiency in perceiving, understanding or appreciating nuance? It seems that all it takes is a clown or one extreme to convince us to sell our future to corruptible authority to ameliorate it.

Yup, anyone can verify by searching for "site:naturalnews.com" - 0 results

"inurl:naturalnews.com" - nothing from naturalnews.com

The domain and all results have been censored.

Honestly, I've seen Natural News, and I really think that if there's one single alternative media site that should be scrubbed from Google for being a bogus and full of shit website, that site would be Natural News.

I don't have anything specific against them aside from what I already said, which is my view that the site is definitely totally bogus and full of shit about everything. Just to clarify, I am no stranger to conspiracy, I'm not a dismissive type of dude, and I personally entertain some of the most radical possibilities out there, but every time I've seen Natural News, it's been absolutely blatant hogwash, lowest common denominator sorts articles that I would pretty much expect any sensible person to be able to identify immediately on sight. This isn't meant to be an insult to you or anyone else, and I'm sorry it sounds so harsh, but there's really no other way I know how to communicate the severity of what I am talking about.

Sure Natural News had a fairly sensational to e but if you dig into the issues it pretty much nails it. No offence but most people do not set aside enough time to understand that western medicine is a giant scandal, especially not doctors. I am telling you this as a fact. The thing is you have an exaggerated sense of western medicine being uncontroversial, well established fact and yet it is blatantly pseudo-scientific because it is corrupted by a lobby and is behilden to money. The same allegation can be levelled at science in general. Science and medicine could be so much better than the corrupt shit we see today.

Sensationalist like calling this a "book burning"? You can still access the site as much as you wish, I fail to see how this is censorship. Perhaps a little greasy on Google's part, but not censorship and certainly not a "book burning".

The system stopped his stats buffing.

You fail to see how censoring an entire website and hundreds of thousands of links is censorship?

Such illogic does not compute.

because it is corrupted by a lobby and is behilden to money.

Natural News is a marketing site for products Mike Adams sells, it's not at all a "news site".

Any "news" on his site is designed to steer folks to the products he sells and make them relevant.

He's a modern day snake oil salesman, nothing more.

BTW, conspiracy theorists, I found this on Google, so much for this post and supposed censoring.

The ads are becoming self aware.

Can you be anymore obvious a shill. You are going to sit here and lie and say it's not happening. You are pathetic.

search "site:naturalnews.com" - 0 results.

I have no doubt someone like Mike Adams would pay people to defend him.

He probably didn't pay his Google advertising bill.

Hey man, do me a favor. Go look up pictures of people who have smallpox.

Measles. Rubella.

Look at the pandemic of 1918 ffs.

stop with the go look up horrible photos of diseases you're never going to get business. We get it, you like vaccines. No we dont need to see pustules on babies.

stop with the go look up horrible photos of diseases you're never going to get business. We get it, you like vaccines. No we dont need to see pustules on babies.

Yeah. It's terrible, and when people forget how horrible that is and do not vaccinate they risk it coming back.

No, vaccines arent what keep my family healthy. Sanitation, eating healthy and spending time in the sun do wonders.

The thing is you have an exaggerated sense of western medicine being uncontroversial, well established fact and yet it is blatantly pseudo-scientific because it is corrupted by a lobby and is behilden to money

Give specific examples. I wanna hear you back this (ridiculous) claim up. Because I'm betting you can't.

Western medicine follows evidence-based treatment protocols. Meaning all their treatments have been evaluated through the scientific method, and have undergone at least some scrutiny in scientific journals. Eastern medicine on the other hand is based on made-up concepts that have no actual basis in anatomy, physiology, or pharmacology.

The sub has firmly established everything I said. Editors of the top medical journals have admitted the dubious quality of upto 50% of scientific published, peer reviewed papers. I personally don't care if you believe me.

I'd love to see a source for that. "Some guy on the internet" doesn't really scream "credible" to me

Well ok angry, biased troll on a mission. Against my better judgement https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1420798/#__ffn_sectitle

LOL! a worshipper of the religion of science.

You need to learn more about how biomedical literature is made and the controversy of p values in the scientific medical community.

Just because people misunderstand p values, and hold them up as the gold standard of the validity of a study, does not give you evidence to discredit the medical establishment as a whole.

And I'm curious as to what your suggested alternative is? Do you honestly believe chi and meridians, and other such nonsense are the actual truth? Like those have some sort of evidence backing them up?

Just because people misunderstand p values, and hold them up as the gold standard of the validity of a study, does not give you evidence to discredit the medical establishment as a whole.

Of course not. Which is not something I have nor will I do. I know as much about external validity and Type II errors as anyone, sadly.

And I'm curious as to what your suggested alternative is?

I see no fault in trying anything that a patient wishes too, as long as their are properly educated and are informed.

Do you honestly believe chi and meridians, and other such nonsense are the actual truth?

It's interesting you lump these together.

Like those have some sort of evidence backing them up?

Besides thousands of years of study and application? Just because it isn't on the front page of the New England Journal doesn't mean it's ineffective.

Yep, natural news fits the 'fake news' title 100%.

I didn't want to use the term just because they're such loaded buzz words. But damn it was a struggle the whole time lol

The thing with the health ones is that promoting that shit is going to get people and their families sick.

the antivaccination thing is one thing I find gross-- go google smallpox images. Also throw in some Mumps. Measles. Rubella.

Go look at the horror children used to suffer through. Polio is largely gone in the US. It is largely gone in the WORLD except for india as far as I know. There were kids who were PARALYZED that don't have to worry about that.

Anyone who is against vaccines is frankly gross and anything that pushes that garbage deserves to go.

You're like those people that try to win an argument to ban guns by raising up pictures of dead kids screaming "Look at that! So shocking! So disgusting!".

Polio died out because the standard of living went up, along with hygiene and nutrition.

Most major outbreaks of one of the others like mumps, measles, and rubella almost always include an overwhelming amount of affected individuals that were already vaccinated and up to date on their shots.

I trust vaccines. I don't trust giant, global pharmaceutical companies that have been caught over and over killing people for profit, lying about it, and never getting punished.

Polio died out because the standard of living went up, along with hygiene and nutrition.

There has been a concentrated effort to eradicate polio ala smallpox through vaccination. Vaccination is much more effective at lowering disease.

Most major outbreaks of one of the others like mumps, measles, and rubella almost always include an overwhelming amount of affected individuals that were already vaccinated and up to date on their shots.

Vaccines aren't 100% effective. Nothing ever is. I also now want to look into the data of when the largest antivaccine push started and the cases of stuff like that.

significant pockets of people not vaccinating could cause the percentage to drop below the amount needed for herd immunity, which significantly breaks the system down, and possibly makes it nigh useless.

I trust vaccines.

Hey me too does it show?

I don't trust giant, global pharmaceutical companies that have been caught over and over killing people for profit, lying about it, and never getting punished.

They sure don't. I don't think they make much of a profit on vaccines. Considering the first vaccines were done with cow pox pustules... it for sure works.

The real money is in a bunch of drugs thta they have no idea how they work but they just seem to "work" Neurontin is one. Shit doesn't do fuckall.

It's fine that you trust the pharmaceutical companies, others don't.

Ahh the alternate indirect shill approach in full display! The "moderate" shill, of course still in full support of 1984 censorship.

Ah, there he is, it's the guy who gets really offended because he can't figure out Natural News is a complete full of shit website! And who is he beneath the mask? What a shock, it's that same paranoid mental illness guy who thinks everyone around him is being paid to post and disagree with him! Not to mention, it's the same guy who can't get a handle on the situation even when my non-shill post history is freely available and stretches back for years! Well I guess that makes sense, because of course, it's also the same guy who can't even read, because my post specifically said that websites should not be banned for any reason. Hey puppy puppy, how do you even know about 1984 since you definitely never even read the book? Did Natural Newsy poo tell you about it?

That stupid site is responsible for thousands of bored housewives to be Anti-Vaxxers. It's a piece of crap and should be scrubbed

Does NOT work from Canada, and it seems not from the US as well, but it works from the UK?

Can someone confirm? if someone can piggyback or proxy from different countries to check which google sites is it banned from (if it geolocal filtered).

Tried a France IP, same result. All naturalnews.com listings have been removed and filtered.

Wow, thanks for sharing. Now go over innoculate your baby.

Humor.

Is it?

It's a coping method.

Never heard of them before this. They just got a subscriber.

Holy crap, though I'm not familiar with this site this seems outrageous to me, how can google just 'decide' to scrub a whole site like this? And for what reason?

I feel like I've gone down a couple more level in the rabbit hole.

I'm wondering what justification google has for doing this? Also is there precedence for this kind of wiping of records and if so how and why has it happened in the past?

This site is a hazard to public health and if you cant see that go google smallpox and tell me if you want that to come back

This site is a hazard to public health

Thanks for being so obvious. It makes it easier to identify you guys.

don't get all bent out of shape because I have a strong opinion that differs from yours. You're on the conspiracy sub, so get used to differing opinions.

You don't have to vaccinate your kids buddy; but if anyone here on /r/conspiracy wants to actually look into some information about vaccines, I suggest you google the following on google images with safesearch off.

Safesearch off now: *hemorrhagic smallpox *smallpox *mumps *measles *rubella *iron lung *polio

stupidity and ignorance is not the same as "an opinion that differs from yours", shill.

http://www.dissolvingillusions.com/ for anyone who wants to actually read instead of just being driven away from the discussion via shock imagery.

Fair point, it becomes easy to resort to lazier arguments when things generally go like this

stupidity and ignorance is not the same as "an opinion that differs from yours", shill.

No one wants to read here right now. The people that do disagree show up. But like I said, fair point resorting to that is a lazy argument.

They've been censoring thousands of sites. Half the web has been removed from Google over the past couple years. Now they are so emboldened that they are openly censoring huge sites like NaturalNews.

Google has been taking a lot of stuff down lately...not just these guys.

Many searches for Hillary Clinton during the campaign were suppressed if they were negative in tone. Ex. "Hillary Clinton criminal". Not for everyone, but a lot of users were reporting different results for various topics regarding politics during the election.

Oh I remember this one. Is this the site suggestions conspiracy? I tested it out for each candidate and they were pretty much equal for me.

DuckDuckGo.com slowly becomes a more reliable search engine than google.

It's also much better for privacy.

There's issues with it since its sale. Plus it piggybacks off of Google in the first place, making it redundant.

Any others?

No, it's not a scraper. You are thinking of Startpage or disconnect.me

When it comes to crawling, there's DuckDuckGo, Google, Yahoo, Bing and not much else.

Google said they were going to push back against bullshit - maybe it's begun. Wouldn't be surprising since NaturalNews is as BS as it gets. Take this story about "left wing media goons" threatening him. They gave him a thumb drive of "opposition research" to use to take-down Alex Jones - note, the left doesn't really give a hoot about Jones, except scornfully - so what does he do? Destroys the thumbdrive (aka evidence) then proceeds to sing the praises of his own heroism before advertising his trump.news real news site that wont be silenced.

lol

So he destroyed the evidence he had that someone gave him a thumb drive?

Natural news is pretty terrible honestly. So many articles like "nuclear war next week" and "the world ends April 15th." I find the hyper-Christian conspiracy theory blogs pretty much hot air. I am still opposed to Google being the end all be all of what's real and fake. A better solution would be a simple footnote stating routinely untrue stories shared thru this website. I still enjoy reading the crazy articles because 1 out of 20 have some truth to it.

Nuclear facilities in the US at risk of disaster this week

http://www.naturalnews.com/032850_nuclear_disaster.html

A lot of people in this thread saying that a lot of their content is fake and made up. Anyone care to provide an example?

Loads of examples here if you're interested.

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/NaturalNews#cite_note-4

They're like the antithesis to mainstream media. By far the largest monetary supporter of the MSM is the pharmaceutical industry. The MSM has become largely a platform to sell pharmaceutical drugs through commercials, "news" segments, and fear mongering. They won't touch topics like medical error, pharmaceutical deaths and vaccine whistleblowers. Naturalnews is completely funded by the natural health industry, they promote supplements and nutrition based health. They definitely sensationalize these natural cures, but they are good for reporting medical/pharmaceutical corruption that you will never hear from the MSM.

All "news" has an agenda, it say naturalnews and the MSM are both beholden to monetary interests and are equally as fake.

False equivalence, fam. Pitting two commercials against each other doesn't make them fake. The best products are the ones that actually work.

HOLY SHIT! 😳

Don't forget, WE had natural news banned as well. It was a morning routine here where people, i believe OP was one, would post a dozen or so naturalnews links in a 5 minute period and flood the new list.

I am unsure when we/reddit/thissub unbanned them but in any case, I find NaturalNews usually a crappy source that I look down on. Is there anyone that finds them reputable?

Who's WE? You aren't a moderator.

The shills were trying to get NaturalNews banned because they hate it. It'd be unfortunate if r/conspiracy mods were easily influenced by shills as such. Natural News is a great site. Mike Adams got some balls to publish the truth like he does and put his name on it. Don't see you doing that....

Two month old account lecturing the 3 year old account on what shills have been doing in this sub.

That makes sense.

Holy shit! It's totally wiped from Google's index!

And there are no media pieces about it yet in the news section. Google is either going to claim it was a mistake, or they're going to say it was a punishment for breaking an indexing rule- but this is insane.

I'm not a fan of that site, but the idea of a site without illegal content being totally purged from the index is crazy.

Google may temporarily or permanently remove sites from its index and search results if it believes it is obligated to do so by law, if the sites do not meet Google's quality guidelines, or for other reasons, such as if the sites detract from users' ability to locate relevant information. We cannot comment on the individual reasons a page may be removed. However, certain actions such as cloaking, writing text in such a way that it can be seen by search engines but not by users, or setting up pages/links with the sole purpose of fooling search engines may result in removal from our index.

That's actually probably the reason for it.

Dammit. Really gotta get off google now. I dunno where to go though? Duckduck? Bing? What is good & complete?

2nd for duckduckgo

3rd for duckduckgo. No complaints after a week or so.

Well they certainly didn't block their website from being accessed but they did block remove natural news from appearing in their search results. And it's a damn good thing they did.

The bullshit NN peddles actually kills people - from preventing treatment of Vitamin A deficiency in the African interior to convincing parents not to take their meningitis-riddled children to the ER because muh pharma resulting in their deaths. They're a cancerous pseudoscience site and should never appear in search results for biotechnology news, medical science, or health inquiries

preventing treatment of Vitamin A deficiency in the African interior

Please explain.

Well they certainly didn't block their website from being accessed but they did block natural news from appearing in their search results.

Uhhh what do you think google does?

I like a good theory just as much if not more than your normal disenfranchised white American mail but with NaturalNews I just can't.

Click any head line then follow the sources. He uses himself Mike Adams, or his own sites as sources all the time.

He also flat out makes stuff up!

I have a pet theory I am keeping to myself and every once in a while naturalnews would post somewhat along the lines. I would think see! My far fetched idea might be right so I would follow the sources. Every time I was disappointed. Over and over

He created and defines fake new!

Yeah "the health ranger" is an incompetent wombat. Has zero depth or experience in health or ag science but thinks if he buys some lab equipment and screeches about muh pharma, he's suddenly a relevant authority

Who cares if what he posts is fake or not. This is about censorship

There needs to be an anti-trust suit against Google. Their size and their interventions into the marketplace both physical and intellectual is to big and the risk too high for malfeasance. Brake Google into a thousand pieces.

He just posted this video a few days ago saying he was being threatened to attack Alex Jones or he himself would be attacked...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Sv2oZHPng0

Yeah this needs to be up voted. It in turn just gives credibility to Alex Jones. Which is fucking insane.

I don't know about "new tactic" but I agree that is some fishy shit.

Everyone who knows what is happening should have see this coming. Anything that isn't deemed "official" will be turned into mulch.

I don't like natural news, everything I've ever seen posted from them has been bullshit.

I still don't like the idea of a massive corporation censoring like this though. People should be able to see the bullshit themselves to decide it's bullshit, otherwise we're just trusting this corporation to be honest when they definitely have no incentive to be.

Natural News is horrendous. They just tweeted about how a woman "beat cancer through juicing" and if you Google her name name one of the first hits is her obituary from 8 months ago. She died of... cancer.

There were many sites that reported this story. http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2016/02/08/stomach-cancer-patient-natasha-grindley-clean-eating-helped-her-fight-disease_n_9185472.html

I suppose google should remove them too?

Also, apparently she was given 2 weeks and lived more than 2 years. Doesn't sound so horrible.

She's been dead for over 6 months. He tweeted TODAY that she beat cancer.

We can't draw the conclusion that what she did wasn't helpful if we include the information that she did indeed live beyond expectations.

However, I imagine these are tweets randomly selected possibly through some automation. We can label much criticism for not monitoring current status of stories, but it seems unlikely in this instance we should assume this was actually tweeted inspite of knowing she has passed.

Has naturalnews.com been diving into particularly controversial topics lately? I just wonder about the timing.

Also, STREISAND EFFECT!!!

I get natural.news

google is basically a huge nsa program...it's freaking sad.

also, this is a good reason why the military and industrial complex corporate capitalism we see in america today is shit

A virtual book-burning. I wonder if the Kindle Fire will earn its name.

Google is CIA, and they have an agenda.

I hope another search engine comes in and takes that business.

I hope Alex Jones sues Google to get this going.

No idea what it was; but its purged yes

Good. And I hope it stays blacklisted forever. NaturalNews is responsible for death and serious illness all over the country. They advocate for dangerous, debunked, mind-numbingly stupid "medical treatments", and shun established science. They prey on the gullible. They are the scum of the Earth.

Links to examples instead of witch-hunting pls. The number of comments that write off the entire site for a couple of suspect articles (which never seemed to be sourced) is suspicious.

It's the old "well I'm against censorship BUT in this case it's ok" shill routine.

Why Did Google Penalize NaturalNews.com in February 2017?

Tried it here .. scrubbed from the internet. Holy crap, that's some Chinese style censorship right there. Health has a real problem with news reporting. They won't call out pharma on really anything. Why? Because of direct to consumer advertising. Many of these 'news' organizations are literally on the payroll of pharma. They won't publish stories that could damage their sponsors. This is why alternative health news site whether you agree with them or not, are more important than ever.

How's is his site down and info wars isnt

StreisandEffect.jpg

Trump's great firewall of google, here we come

NaturalNews and Mike Adams are one of the only sources of real information and unbiased truth. They've single-handledly blown the lid off the heavy metal contamination in all the protein powders. They consistently publish truth.

Google is the enemy people wake up. They are fingerprinting your computer and tracking your entire online life through their front services like Recaptcha, jquery and AJAX. They are censoring half the world wide web, removing thousands of pages on a daily basis (like Natural News or anyone else who speaks against The System) as they work with the Globalist counterparts to bring the final control grind into fruition.

recaptcha

Don't even get me started on that goddamn bullshit. I bet they record your response times so even if you're using a proxy (which causes CloudFront ReCaptcha blocks everywhere) they can still tell who you are. And they started it all off with the innocent-sounding cover of "digitizing all the books ever" which turned into "identifying the addresses on every house ever" and pretty soon will probably be "match the names of each famous politician with their faces" and then "match the names of your friends with their faces"...

Please do not think on your own. Let us tell you what to think. It is for your own good. Sounds like a bad movie.

Why you using Google?

"Adbanced" search on specific sire natiralnews.com finds zilch:
https://www.google.com/search?as_q=Vitamin&amp;as_epq=&amp;as_oq=&amp;as_eq=&amp;as_nlo=&amp;as_nhi=&amp;lr=&amp;cr=&amp;as_qdr=all&amp;as_sitesearch=Naturalnews.com&amp;as_occt=any&amp;safe=images&amp;as_filetype=&amp;as_rights=

Stop using Google. That's your problem right there.

It's very obvious to prove this censorship. You can easily prove this to your friends. Ask them to do a Google search with

site:naturalnews.com

It turns up no results.

Even people who disagree with the content of the website should agree that Google, as the standard on search engines, should not be doing this.

This is an interview with Mike Adams of Naturalnews. He comes across as very intelligent and passionate. I've never found much value on his over commercial and sensationalist site however, but what google did sets up a slippery slope for all of the internet.

https://blog.bulletproof.com/mike-adams-330/

Yeah, it didn;t show up for me. all I got was Natural.news...

Also interesting, on Mike's Health Ranger website, the link to Naturalnews.com doesn't exist anymore.

It's not just in the USA. No results for site:natrualnews.com in [Ss]outhern Europe.

I can't say I really knew about natural news before but to be completely deindexed from Google means there must have been something "they" didn't want you to see on there.

Even in Googles new rampage to get rid of fake news it was only removing the websites from their ad sense program and in the case of holocaust denier websites pushing their rankings down.

Google isn't a government company. It's a private company so they can sensor what ever they want no matter if we like it or not. Don't like it don't use google.

It is censorship that same as Facebook censors it's news feeds.

Google has no requirement to protect our first amend rights. It is censoring NaturalNews because they feel they need to in order to protect their brand.

My point in OP was it's no loss since truly is fake news.

I live in Illinois. Google search for "naturalnews.com" did not show naturalnews.com. Natural.news is not the same site. DuckDuckGo search for "natural news" yielded naturalnews.com. It was at the top of the list.

I am not endorsing naturalnews.com, but I know that putting trust for this type of censorship in the hands of search engines like Google is a horrible mistake. It can easily lead to censorship of dissent.

Why are we so prone to misplaced trust in authority? What is wrong with our species? Is it a deficiency in perceiving, understanding or appreciating nuance? It seems that all it takes is a clown or one extreme to convince us to sell our future to corruptible authority to ameliorate it.

http://searchengineland.com/natural-news-not-banned-google-fake-news-269998

nothing to see here, your tinfoil hat must have fell off

No, Google Didn't Remove NaturalNews.com Because Of Fake News.

What matters is Google took censorship into their own hands and purged information like this, which sets a scary and dangerous precedent.

Nope. Turns out NN was abusing the whole google webmaster thing and got banned for it.

That's actually probably the reason for it.

In Germany if you get sick from vaccine the government will pay all your health care costs forever. But if you get sick because your parents didn't want to get you vaccinations the health insurance will kick you out at the age of 18. So the anti vaxxers that believe so much in not needing vacations fake them so they could claim that a child got sick because of a double faulty dose. If a physician is found to fake that he of course will lose his license.

Why do German anti vaxxers fake vacations if they believe they are not needed? Doesn't this already show that they are wrong?

So I'm just gonna agree to disagree. Being skeptical of something is totally within ones rights and I have no problem with it. The problem comes when people ignore facts just to keep pushing their opinion. Like the whole anti-vax thing started because of the supposed link to autism, but when that was debunked it just shifted to the vague "it might have undesirable effects" claims. While it's entirely possible, at that point it's just people wanting to be anti-vax and clinging to any possible reason against it. They aren't anti-vax for any real reason other than distrust, which is fine, but call it what it is. No reproducible results have shown that vaccines cause autism, and I haven't seen any showing that they are to blame for anything really. There is no rational discussion because the reason behind anti vaccines at this point isn't rational (I don't mean that as an insult). It isn't based on any science or study, it's fear based. Despite the science showing that it isn't really causing any issues, especially the initial one of autism that started the whole movement, people are still against it. You cannot have rational arguments against something when there is practically zero science supporting your claims, I'm sorry. It's like arguing that cigarettes aren't that bad because there is no discussion of their benefits. Or global warming is debatable because the anti-climate change people aren't getting enough air time. Meanwhile, vaccine-preventable diseases such as whooping cough have seen rises. I write this as peacefully as possible and am not trying to flame anyone or start anything overly negative <3

This site is a hazard to public health and if you cant see that go google smallpox and tell me if you want that to come back

False equivalence, fam. Pitting two commercials against each other doesn't make them fake. The best products are the ones that actually work.

Who's WE? You aren't a moderator.

The shills were trying to get NaturalNews banned because they hate it. It'd be unfortunate if r/conspiracy mods were easily influenced by shills as such. Natural News is a great site. Mike Adams got some balls to publish the truth like he does and put his name on it. Don't see you doing that....

They've been censoring thousands of sites. Half the web has been removed from Google over the past couple years. Now they are so emboldened that they are openly censoring huge sites like NaturalNews.

Once upon a time you didn't have to take off your shoes and belt to get on an airplane, now you have to have a full body xray scan and potential anal probe.

Hegelian dialect... Problem/Reaction/Solution. Escalate in small steps so people are less likely to dissent to change.

No, it's not a scraper. You are thinking of Startpage or disconnect.me

When it comes to crawling, there's DuckDuckGo, Google, Yahoo, Bing and not much else.