Why David Seaman? Are you planning on using both magic and attention whores?

I'm just being a dick because I don't believe in this stuff. Don't worry about it.

I also have some shirty days. Sometimes when its warm I have sweater days.

Today though it's a shoe day.

You need Seaman to make the magic work.

Don't you know anything about spirit cooking.

Well played.

It's Sea-Man

As /u/no1113 pointed out:

Don't meditate for harm to come upon others. Doing so against even those that might deserve it (like pedophiles, for example) still is projecting negative energy upon another. You're literally meditating for negative energy to be put upon another when you do that and it makes you a beacon of darkness as you channel negative, dark energy through you when you think harmful thoughts upon another. This bounces the energy right back to you yourself and in the end creates more harm than good.

What should be done instead is to meditate toward the empowering of those who are harmed by the pedophiles. In other words, don't meditate for harm to come on to others. Meditate instead for strength to come upon those who need it the most in order to fend off anyone who might try to harm them. Uplift and strengthen everyone who stands to be a victim. Meditate toward giving light and power to everyone who might be harmed by pedophilia and its perpetrators. Meditate to empower all people, groups, etc, that have the ability to shut down pedophiles. Meditate to give them the power and the strength and the courage to do their jobs and capture and turn in and imprison all pedophiles and people engaged in such activity. Meditate to give communities aware of these things the power to stand up and put and end to this. Meditate to give all of us the power to stand up and put an end to this.

In the end, you achieve the same effect of shutting down the darkness, but you do it by empowering the light against it, and you don't end up bringing in the darkness into your own sphere by wishing negativity and harm upon another.

https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/5ubmht/synchronized_mass_meditationprayer_for_arrests_of/ddt736i/

Kids get napped when everyone is praying

...

Then do something else. No one's holding you here

Just a joke :)

Eastern time?

That's 9:11 am Mountain time, I don't know how I feel about that.../s

too many dots are connecting here

9/11 i believe is 'the sons' birthday in the bible. i think we were given wrong dates and were sad on his birthday and Xmas is a pagan holiday. If you check out our stars they tell the story and dates.

I believe that also. And the 9/11 attacks was mocking the birth date

CONFIRMED

/U/LOUD_VOLUME IS A PART OF THE CABAL SEEKING TO ASSIST SAUDI ARABIA IN A SECOND 9/11

BIG BIG BIG NEWS FOLKS.

I'm a level 99 wizard and will channel my chakratic powers to help with your highly important preying session.

Actually, god just told me that he's already preparing to act on pizzagate. He whispered it into my 4th ear.

I want some of that weed

Not in Trump's America.

Fine. I want some of those "golden showers" then.

The collective benefits of group meditation have been researched and verified by over 50 studies.

Meditation is good. I'm arguing that it does not have an effect on anything besides your own mental health.

This has been well proven and well documented.

citations please.

Also look into the collective unconsciousness or even the akashic records. It ties into all of this. Or you can be negative about it. :)

Again, proof please.

Russel Targ's banned TED talk discusses his experiments in esp abilities with the CIA over 26 recorded years of studies. The other "banned Ted talks" are similar like Rupert sheldrake's breakdown of the current scientific dogmas holding us back from further understanding the universe.

Targ's https://youtu.be/hBl0cwyn5GY Sheldrake's https://youtu.be/JKHUaNAxsTg

Your definition of well documented is a lot different than mine.

The CIA literally released 15 million documents detailing the experiments like a month ago.

Are you referring to the bullshit psychic remote mars crap?

There was a lot more than that pretty unbelievable story. There is enough to prove causation in many cases. Watch the videos I linked if you actually want to know something about the topic.

Hi! I watched them. Thanks for linking. I haven't gotten to listen to the ramblings of madmen all that often since I moved away from the city and thus don't encounter screaming homeless people anymore.

Can't tell which side of what you're saying is sarcasm, but there's a lot more on the subject, and even support from physicists if you do some research.

I did some research and found out that nobody actually did real research.

Oh okay sorry you feel that way. Are you studied in quantum physics at all? Go to r/holofractal.

Theories like string, holographic universe, etc, are at the absolute fringe of theoretical physics. There's a hell of a lot of math to support any given theory, but most of them are incompatible. So what do you do when you have 14 different theories to combine classical (big) and quantum (little) physics, all with equally strong math but no experimental evidence? You wait for technology to catch up and build big goddamn atom smashers to gather data.

TLDR you're in speculation territory.

Have you even studied physics? Scrödinger, the founder of quantum mechanics, said himself that "the total minds in the universe is one". The math and experiments have shown that particles are waves and waves are particles. It's all projected energy. Electrons are waves. Matter is excited, spinning packets of energy and that's proven. Empty space if full of an infinite energy, and that's proven. We already have big goddamn atom smashers that have detected a lot of this. You may want to catch up to the technology.

Schrodinger also believed he had proven the existence of god. Brilliant scientist, but there's no science to back his philosophies (that god exists, any of the consciousness stuff.)

particles are waves

Well, or strings. Lots of math to support point-particle, wave, string, etc.

Electrons are waves

Electrons exhibit probability-wave behaviors.

Matter is excited, spinning packets of energy and that's proven.

Has not been "proven." Not even popularly accepted.

Empty space is full of infinite energy

Speculated, theorized, many strong oppositional theories.

We've detected lots of this

We've detected none of this. We've gathered data and theorized upon it.

We can't continue to think linearly because the universe itself is not linear.

This sentence is meaningless.

Another Rupert Sheldrake lecture: the extended mind https://youtu.be/JnA8GUtXpXY

Sheldrake is not a scientist.

You don't need a PhD to do "science". All science is is experimentation and documentation of the method and results. He has used the scientific method in his research to show there is significance to the idea that the mind can influence "external" factors. (I put external in speech marks because in my opinion [belief maybe?] everything is connected [shoutout /r/holofractal] so getting technical about it there is no "external")

How about this: nobody can be able to replicate Sheldrake's experiments because they are constructed in a way to be immune to criticism. He doesn't do science. He's not a scientist.

I'm not saying he's a scientist. So you don't need to keep repeating that. I don't think you need scientists to say something before you decide to agree with it. Qualifications are certainly useful, but they're certainly not absolute. Sheldrake is a competent individual who's spent years researching material in regards to the nature of consciousness. From my own experience in life so far, and from reading and listening to Sheldrake, personally I can completely get behind his propositions.

Competent

Arguable.

years researching

We disagree on the definition of research.

If it's not science, you can't say it's truth, or real.

komali. Back down dude.

listen to Bill Murray

You're way too deep in this comment thread for anyone to care.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpgQSbwnWD0

I have been doing this every day. Be glad to keep doing it and focus harder tomorrow.

The official website for the meditation is MeditateChange.net if you are interesting in more information. Also, if your're interested. I've posted a more complete response somewhere in this thread.

With all do respect, I'm just going to try and focus any and all positive energy towards positive action during the allotted time tomorrow, BUT, that's not to say I don't appreciate the link. Thank you

Why don't you just have a cup of tea? It'll be equally as effective. Who are you praying to? The God that allowed the children to be raped in the first place?

Yes. He only stops kiddy diddling if enough people pray and Facebook Like posts about him.

https://lifeisalabyrinth.files.wordpress.com/2014/10/come-on-facebook-40-more-likes.jpg?w=645

ha! classic, however, not really the same idea as what's going on here

Riiiiight. Do you want to buy a bridge?

'No praying, just meditating on a better future and justice for all'

It literally says 'meditation/prayer' in your post. Which is it?

It's what ever you want it to be man. Whether or not you believe in a higher power or not I personally think a moment of reflection could be beneficial for everyone.

how about a moment to reflect on why this sub doesn't talk about presidential conspiracies when a certain party takes office?

How about were a sub that likes to see shit through. We'll deal with Donald in due time if necessary.

You must be a real kick at get togethers

i'd prefer him to someone that just repeats the same shitty meme

Woohoo friend!

Good on you man, way to stay in control of your emotions. I know from experience how difficult it is when you're ridiculed by everyone for discussing things like this post. Laughter always comes first, then acceptance!

There's a dragon in my room. I have documented this fact. Haha, accept it.

That's awesome! How long has he been there? Does he only stay in your room or does he tend to stick by you? Have you named him or does he just kind of hangout?

Over 50+ studies have proven there is a dragon in your room!

You're fucking retarded.

No really, you're retarded.

Lol, no i just think you're retarded. All of what you believe is unscientific mystic bullshit. I have some eastern healing crystals id like to sell you.

Dude, are you even reading these?! All it proves is that there is a placebo effect. Stop your confirmation bias, retard.

The first one is fine, but the other "studies" are hilarious. Literally one click away, where I learn about TM-Sidha, I see this:

During TM-Sidhi Yogic Flying, at the moment of maximum global coherence in brain wave activity, the body lifts up.

Accompanied by a horribly photoshopped picture of meditating people flying. If it actually happened, I'd assume you could just take a real fucking picture.

Are you really comparing yourself to fucking gandhi because you're praying about a fake pizza pedophile conspiracy lmao

People are ignoring and laughing at you because this is patently ridiculous, not because you're some selfless prophet with secret knowledge.

Why dont you just pray that everyone believes it and makes the world better? Why keep such a powerful force to yourself when you could literally save the entire world by making everyone believe?

Google morphic resonance.

Oh cool, thanks for telling me about this new brand of psuedo-science I wasn't aware of! ^{.^}

Be sure to eat lots of chocolate. It's an octave of sun energy! And that's as much as EIGHT sun energies!

Meditation is good for you.

It is not magic and doesn't affect the world around you, except in how you perceive it.

http://m.news24.com/news24/MyNews24/Why-praying-is-a-useless-waste-of-time-energy-and-emotion-20150313

http://new.exchristian.net/2012/11/why-prayer-is-waste-of-time.html?m=1

http://southernskeptic.com/prayer-waste-time/

Random links do not proof make.

And all those link OP provided say meditation causes a placebo effect, in so many words.

You bothered to read them?! I saw the domains and skipped school.

A university founded by a YOGI lol.

Of course they are. They aren't scientifically controlled or peer reviewed studies, I once studied my cats, I found in 86 of these studies that they were horses.

It's been documented that group meditation can positively change the world, and has been proven through 50+ studies.

any links to those studies?

It's been documented that group meditation can positively change the world, and has been proven through 50+ studies

My goodness I love this subreddit.

shocking that this post doesn't have a "no proof" tag right?

http://www.worldpeacegroup.org/washington_crime_study.html

Read the study, not the domain.

And then Google morphic resonance.

Hah, well that study is easy to dismiss: Correlation != causation. Did you know there's a near 1 to 1 correlation between hanging suicides and US spending on science? Or that the number of people who drown in a pool is, by year, strongly correlated with the number of films that Nicholas Cage appeared in that year?

Nicholas cage does make me weak in the legs...

That "study" has about as much credibility as a pile of dog shit. You mean a group of people whose livelihoods depend on people believing their bullshit can make up numbers that confirm their bullshit works?

I read the entire study, and they clearly change their hypothesis in testing and conclusion. They predicted drops in crime -- not just violent crime -- but then dialed that back to just violent crime. And then they excluded robberies. So if I slice and dice the type of crime that HAPPENS to have a significant decrease during the measurement period, I can probably find an effect.

For example, they could say "25% property crime reduction" and restrict it to stolen cars and embezzlement, but it doesn't mean anything.

Unfortunately, I can't find detailed data on 1993 crime in DC, but in fact 1993 was the WORST year for violent crime in DC's history. How, exactly, does the overall trend massively increase when one of the most-violent months had such a reduction in crime?

It doesn't add up. If this effect were real, why wouldn't cities just hire a few hundred meditators at a fraction of the cost vs. law enforcement? This doesn't pass the sniff test.

Morphic resonance friend

It's been documented

No, it hasn't. You're wrong, and lying to yourself.

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. Those "studies" are not evidence.

objective evidence is anecdotal and thus irrelevant for people who deny validity of intuition and subjective experience.

A placebo effect effecting other people that didn't meditate?

Meditation can have positive individual effect, I never argued otherwise. Unlike mass meditation, this has been backed by research, with nice hard evidence like MRIs.

Science doesn't work like what you're suggesting - I don't have to prove you're wrong, you have to prove you're right.

I know what I know because a dragon in my room only tells me true things. You can't prove my dragon doesn't exist therefore you must be wrong.

It isn't disproven either so take your negativity and pessimism to another thread.

Neither has it been disproven that there's a dragon in my room.

If a cup of Tea work for you then drink a cup of tea. prayer dont work with me, but meditation always had positive effect on me.

Also if you dont whant to pray for a god that allow child to be raped, maybe its time to belive in one that dont allow it.

The official website for the meditation is MeditateChange.net if you are interesting in more information. Also, if your're interested. I've posted a more complete response somewhere in this thread.

Such a god clearly doesn't exist, because children get raped. Daily.

But who do those bad thing ? "God" or human ?

Humans, obviously, because there aren't gods. What kind of question is that?

What question is that? You say god dont exist because you see darkness. Human are the only thing to blame about darkness .

There are no god you are right, but the idea of god exist.

If free will exists then how will praying change anyone's actions?

Literally none of those prove causation. It's simple correlation, there are a million and one other variables that could result in the same outcome.

Not to mention none of those articles were about meditation to prevent specific crimes. So where did you make that leap from? It's like some people ready any old article and then take it 5 steps further to fill their beliefs.

I don't doubt the positive effects meditation can have on an individual but "busting a high level pedo ring" is not one of them.

You too.

I will wait until there is really evidence before jumping to conclusions.

A lot of people never have an urge to hurt children, or anyone really. And they don't feel like they lack free will because of it. God could have just created the world so that no one felt urges to hurt children. In that case, no one would feel like they were lacking in the freedom to hurt children because they would simply never have the urge or desire to hurt children.

Humans keep humans accountable. Nothing else.

Free will very well might not exist, though we have the illusion of it. I.e., if you could accurately simulate the trajectory of every electron after the big bang, you might be able to demonstrate that all of time is preordained by the event.

Irrelevant right now because the illusion, or reality, of free will is such that we are responsible for our actions.

And fucking mass prayer doesn't do shit to stop anything so it's not 'taking responsibility'.

Humans keep humans accountable. Nothing else.

Free will very well might not exist, though we have the illusion of it. I.e., if you could accurately simulate the trajectory of every electron after the big bang, you might be able to demonstrate that all of time is preordained by the event.

Irrelevant right now because the illusion, or reality, of free will is such that we are responsible for our actions.

And fucking mass prayer doesn't do shit to stop anything so it's not 'taking responsibility'.

The Buddhists have it right and are generally better off. They know how to exit this simulated universe prison.

Arguing with mentally challenged people are futile, they cannot be reasoned with, otherwise they wouldn't drown in delusions in the first place.

You cannot be serious.

Would you prefer that this God take away all ability to make free choices, and your life and everyone else's resemble a robot?

There's is no God.

Only zool.

Omnipotent, omnipresent god is not compatible with free will. Try again.

Everything is energy and energy is neither good nor bad but it came become good or bad depending on how it is used. Meditation and prayer are methods used to direct that energy in a certain direction.

Fake

It's not fake your peabrain just can't comprehend it.

http://theunseen.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/einstein-HLOA-708x404.jpg

Wrong

There's no evidence Einstein said that. So as /u/NoobHistorian said, wrong.

lol "here's a fake quote over a shitty meme to prove your peabrain wrong" get the fuck outta here

The quote might not be real but it doesn't change the fact that it holds truth. And yes you have a peabrain if you can't understand that.

If you have any questions I'll gladly answer

What are you smoking, and where can I get some?

r\holofractal ?

"If you want to find the secrets of the universe, think in terms of energy, frequency and vibration." -- Nikola Tesla

I'm pretty sure he was talking about electromagnetism, not some fantastical aether of consciousness that carries notions of morality and the will of people in sufficient numbers.

How can one truly know if there is an existence or no existence after human death in this universe or if there is a God or no god in this universe, unless they're psychic or something?

How can one know if this universe is a simulation or not? There's a 1 in 3 chance it is and we are coming closer to test this theory.

Also, IIRC, the Buddhists think that this universe is some sort of simulated prison and one of the ways to exit it is to properly meditate a lot and be a good person.

And perhaps the universe is a giant jelly bean and we just don't know it. You can theorise and speculate until your head falls off, but you should probably lay off misrepresenting the words of real scientists, and instead try to find credibility by actually proving that your ideas have merit.

Basic rundown on simulation theory:

[Camper Killer Commentary #10: "Is Reality Real?"(https://www.youtube.com/shared?ci=t2BGNM1VrI0)

Yes it can. Just as I can destroy a car. The energy that made up that car still exist, but you're not going to be driving anywhere.

Consciousnesses cannot be destroyed

I assumed your were making some point about souls or ghost or something.

"If you want to find the secrets of the universe, think in terms of energy, frequency and vibration." -- Nikola Tesla

I'm not a religious person at all, but I've been exploring spirituality.

Because why not, saying nothing exists is depressing and boring, and didn't make much sense.

There's no harm in a harmless peaceful group effort. It's easy, and something everybody can do, even at home. Even if it has no real world effect, it's sure as hell a nice thought. Positive thoughts have a stronger effect then most people would think.

Who cares if it's depressing? What matters is if it's true. It's depressing that there's dozens if not hundreds of women around the world being raped at this very moment, but that doesn't make it untrue.

But if you think positively about it then their attackers might stop.

How can one truly know if there is an existence or no existence after human death in this universe or if there is a God or no god in this universe, unless they're psychic or something?

How can one know if this universe is a simulation or not? There's a 1 in 3 chance it is and we are coming closer to test this theory.

Also, IIRC, the Buddhists think that this universe is some sort of simulated prison and one of the ways to exit it is to properly meditate a lot and be a good person.

While I can appreciate solipsism and, to some degree, associate myself with it and skepticism toward existence itself, I think that's it's pretty clear that those lines of thinking are most likely false. It's definitely a possibility that God exists, but there's honestly no reason to think that other than because people in the past said so. God is explained as a bridge for people of earlier eras to fill in frustrating gaps in their understanding, ie: "I don't understand lightning, it's probably some angry celestial being". Then that line of thinking just kept getting expanded into the huge network of ideas that it became today. That seems like a more logical solution. It can't prove anything, but it's a more likely scenario with regards to lining up with what we can observe.

I can't really speak to life being a simulation, except that it's probably a byproduct of obsession with technology and active imaginations. It just doesn't have enough evidence to be worthy of considering. For example, how do you know that the sewer system isn't actually a magical black hole that all of our water pours into? Have you followed something that you flushed all the way to the end of the pipe? Even if you did, how do you know that what you saw wasn't a decoy pipe to keep you from learning the truth?

I like to engage in conspiracy theories as a mental activity but even when dealing with the unlikely or the macabre, it doesn't make sense to probe deeply into or put much faith into any theory that doesn't have at least some piece of it grounded in observable realty.

If there is a God of the universe, it's probably a lese-fair god. Mediation might work? At least for benefit of self it does.

Basic rundown on simulation theory:

Camper Killer Commentary #10: "Is Reality Real?"

Prayer: Literally the least you can do.

How can one truly know if there is an existence or no existence after human death in this universe or if there is a God or no god in this universe, unless they're psychic or something?

How can one know if this universe is a simulation or not? There's a 1 in 3 chance it is and we are coming closer to test this theory.

Also, IIRC, the Buddhists think that this universe is some sort of simulated prison and one of the ways to exit it is to properly meditate a lot and be a good person.

I don't know where all this is coming from. I didn't say anything for or against the existence of a supreme power/deity.

All I was saying is that when someone needs help, or a life is in danger, or a dog is lost... whatever... throwing up a plea to your invisible sky daddy is literally the least you can do.

Right, actions should definitely also be taken.

If you don't think it's worthwhile then ignore it.

And God doesn't allow children to be raped. He gave us free will to experience life and for our immortal souls to evolve or devolve our choice. That's a wondrous gift but also a dangerous one as many choose to use their free will to harm others and deprive them of theirs.

If He didn't give us free will I never would have been abused as a child but I also never would have had the good experiences either. And the contrast of that horror vs joy would never have been as profound as it is.

Without free will we are just slaves. Freedom does have a price.

A whole lot of intolerant atheistic ass holes in this thread tbh

so trump and sessions re instituting federal private prisons, deciding to go after weed in legal states. Where's the winning?

It's winning™—a synthetic construct, like rich Corinthian leather, which shares no material qualities with its namesake.

Fun Fact: Gandhi was a pedophile who abused his neices and also a virulent racist.

The official website for the meditation is MeditateChange.net if you are interesting in more information. Also, if your're interested. I've posted a more complete response somewhere in this thread.

My thoughts too. Kind of sad, they came to the thread specifically to trash it. They see anything that might be spiritual and flock like vultures, lol.

I bet Christ would love your user name.

If I could change it I would, lol. I'm aware I can make a new account but, no.

There's a story for it. If I was made his "image" I'm sure he's got a sense of humor about it.

A hell of a lot of dumbass theists in what used to be the most cynical subreddit on this board.

Cynical doesn't mean blind to the reality of conscious energy. try again.

You're blind to the reality of reality.

What is reality?

I dunno why don't you ask the global web of conscious energy.

I did. It said tell komali to lick my balls.

I did, it told me not to feed the trolls.

How can one truly know if there is an existence or no existence after human death in this universe or if there is a God or no god in this universe, unless they're psychic or something?

How can one know if this universe is a simulation or not? There's a 1 in 3 chance it is and we are coming closer to test this theory.

Also, IIRC, the Buddhists think that this universe is some sort of simulated prison and one of the ways to exit it is to properly meditate a lot and be a good person.

William Blake is rolling in his grave :(

I'm not a religious man but I do believe in the power of thought and intention. I think this is a good idea.

Plus I'm one of those who look at a clock at 11:11 and 1:11 way more then one should randomly. So this is an interesting synchronicity.

The official website for the meditation is MeditateChange.net if you are interesting in more information. Also, if your're interested. I've posted a more complete response somewhere in this thread.

I've already started! We are going to end DC Pedicabs! Stupid bikes.

In on this

The official website for the meditation is MeditateChange.net if you are interesting in more information. Also, if your're interested. I've posted a more complete response somewhere in this thread.

Cool! I really liked the /r/massmeditations sub as an idea well.

Me too. "See" you guys tomorrow.

I'm down worth a try. Doesn't hurt and it's only 22 minutes.

I heard that the world was going to end in 2012 with the mayan calendar's end.

I'm religious. I believe in the power of prayer. Let's bring these dirty fuckers down

I'm religious too. Let's pray that God smite's these fucking assholes right in the cunt.

Done correctly and in a way that doesn't hurt you - you meditate and pray for positivity. Saving kids, righting wrongs, healing families is all positive spin on what you said. Ultimately what you said might happen too, but to wish it might not be your ideal tact. :)

As /u/no1113 pointed out:

Don't meditate for harm to come upon others. Doing so against even those that might deserve it (like pedophiles, for example) still is projecting negative energy upon another. You're literally meditating for negative energy to be put upon another when you do that and it makes you a beacon of darkness as you channel negative, dark energy through you when you think harmful thoughts upon another. This bounces the energy right back to you yourself and in the end creates more harm than good.

What should be done instead is to meditate toward the empowering of those who are harmed by the pedophiles. In other words, don't meditate for harm to come on to others. Meditate instead for strength to come upon those who need it the most in order to fend off anyone who might try to harm them. Uplift and strengthen everyone who stands to be a victim. Meditate toward giving light and power to everyone who might be harmed by pedophilia and its perpetrators. Meditate to empower all people, groups, etc, that have the ability to shut down pedophiles. Meditate to give them the power and the strength and the courage to do their jobs and capture and turn in and imprison all pedophiles and people engaged in such activity. Meditate to give communities aware of these things the power to stand up and put and end to this. Meditate to give all of us the power to stand up and put an end to this.

In the end, you achieve the same effect of shutting down the darkness, but you do it by empowering the light against it, and you don't end up bringing in the darkness into your own sphere by wishing negativity and harm upon another.

https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/5ubmht/synchronized_mass_meditationprayer_for_arrests_of/ddt736i/

The official website for the meditation is MeditateChange.net if you are interesting in more information. Also, if your're interested. I've posted a more complete response somewhere in this thread.

Let God being these defiant people down. Effective prayer acknowledges that He holds all the power and we can do nothing without God.

Amen.

If both God and pizzagate are real, then PG only exists because God wants it to. Given this and everything I've ever heard about the guy, I struggle to see what exactly makes him worth worshiping.

When I was growing, I had a friend whose little sister died of cancer aged 3. The people at her funeral talking about how God was watching over her now killed my religion - where was 'He' when that kid was suffering?

Motivation via fear of eternal damnation just isn't enough, if anything it makes me want to go the other way.

If God is real, he's a giant dick worthy only of contempt.

He gave us free will so we can experience life and grow. And death as well.

Otherwise we are slaves.

I am sorry that your friend lost his sister and that it shattered your faith. It's hard as a kid to understand free will especially when adults seem to expect God to control things.

I believe He can work miracles through us but only when we give Him our faith and put ourselves in His hands. And of course we cannot expect to have Him enslave evil doers. They have free will also.

Think of it like a parent of children. We could enslave them at home and never let them out in danger and also never experience the joys of life. The good and the bad.

Our existence here is short and a test of if we will use our free will to love God or love ourselves. The end goal is that God have people to love and them to love God. Everything that happens is playing out towards that end goal and although people will do terrible things to each other, in the end they can be saved and comforted. Man is allowed to do what he pleases and it is God who will correct things after we all leave time and enter eternity.

if your god could do that, why hasn't he yet? does he like child rape?

Man kind is dark.

Also, the Old Testament says that. Jesus came to rewrite the book.

Nope, that's just what people say to try and justify believing in such fucked up insanity.

“For truly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, not an iota, not a dot, will pass the law until all is accomplished. Whoever then relaxes one of the least of these commandments and teaches men so, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but he who does them and teaches them shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.” — Matthew 5:18-19

“It is easier for Heaven and Earth to pass away than for the smallest part of the letter of the law to become invalid.” (Luke 16:17)

“Do not think that I have come to abolish the law or the prophets. I have come not to abolish but to fulfill. Amen, I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not the smallest part or the smallest part of a letter will pass from the law, until all things have taken place.” (Matthew 5:17)

“Did not Moses give you the law, and yet none of you keepeth the law” (John7:19)

Mmmk, and these are solely focused on the 10 commandments.

Right right

So if god is infallible, how did he make a mistake?

If prayer works, is there free will?

Come the fuck on

God doesn't make mistakes.

We are all broken.

I have no evidence that prayer works. I have faith that it does.

Just as I am free to believe you are free to not believe. I will not hold it against you. Rational conversation between those who have faith and those who don't is what we need more of.

"God doesn't make mistakes."

So what was the reason for the flood? Either a mistake was made so he needed to execute nearly every living creature.

Or executing nearly every living creature was a mistake.

No?

There is nothing rational about blindly putting faith in fairy tales

you're free to believe whatever you like, just like i can believe in santa

you probably wouldn't want someone leading the country if they spent their time writing letters to santa all year

I believe that a lot of the tales in the Old Testament are parables to teach lessons. I don't believe it all word for word. I'm a scientist. I believe in evolution. I don't believe evolution disproves a higher power.

I think the danger we fall in is lumping everyone together. When you hear someone believes in Jesus, you lump them into your group of kooky, faith blinded, illogical wackos.

Similarly, christians who believe lump all non-believers into morally unguided, pompous heathens.

There are shades of grey and I believe what works for you, works for you. I don't want to push my ways on you.

I don't believe evolution disproves a higher power.

But yet you're willing to believe in a certain higher power because it's the norm and the one in this current time period that's dominant in your culture

Why haven't you done studies on the thousands of religions to see which one might actually be true?

The bible is either of the word of god, or it isn't. If it's just the words from some guys wandering around in deserts, why is it any more valid than other fictional stories to teach lessons?

As long as you don't vote for people who want to push their beliefs on me, or make me live by their ways, it's whatever. But since you're a donald supporter, where's your outrage over him declaring he will get rid of the rule that keeps churches from pushing their political beliefs?

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There you go in your absolutes again.

Can't the Bible be stories to teach lessons and the word of God?

I believe in separation of church and state. It's what our country is founded on.

I'm not really big on Donald. He's our president and I want him to succeed but he's an idiot.

The best thing that will happen because of the Donald presidency is that more people will actually vote in the next election and hopefully we can fix the 2 party system. The world is too diverse to just fall into 2 categories, which is sort of my theme here.

The bible pushes absolutes. It literally says it is the only truth and the only god is god and either you obey or go to burn for eternity.

And I'm pushing absolutes?

I believe that it says perfection is unattainable.

Accept Christ, trust in him, love your fellow man and live as morally as you can and ask for forgiveness if you fail.

I'm a New Testament thinker. Treat others how you would want to be treated.

I don't think we're getting anywhere here. I'm pretty happy with my beliefs. They work for me. I hope your beliefs work for you and I think as long as we can accept each other and have conversations about it is important.

Amen.

I see a lot of vitriol and anger towards those with faith on this thread. And a lot of misunderstanding too.

Thanks for being a voice of compassion and faith. Maybe it will reach through some of their hostility.

Reddit and religion is like oil and water. Just gotta know your demo.

I have no evidence that prayer works.

Yay we win this debate. Don't talk anymore, you have nothing useful to say.

Religions =/= god and spirituality.

When was the last time mankind was not dark? Has God performed any miracles since then?

If so, then mankind's darkness does not account for His inaction.

If not, exactly how fluid is mankind's darkness, historically?

I don't know

Ok. How about this: Name one miracle that God performed in the last 2500 years; I will not dispute it.

He sent his son to die for your sins. No more miracles needed after that.

Except I see miracles everyday. I consider life a miracle.

A bit drunk now so you'll have to excuse the cockiness

Was mankind dark at-the-time-of or prior-to these miracles you've cited?

Yes. We are imperfect

So, God performs miracles even during and following times in which mankind is dark.

Therefore the answer "mankind is dark" does not answer the question, "if your God could [ perform a given miracle ], why hasn't he?"

For instance, suppose we're stopped at an intersection. The traffic light turns green, but I don't accelerate. You ask, "why aren't you going?". I respond, "because the engine is running".

The engine is running when I don't respond to the traffic light. The engine is running when I do, by driving through the intersection. The engine being on does not explain my inaction.

Mankind is dark when God doesn't perform miracles. Mankind is dark when God does perform miracles. Mankind being dark does not explain God's inaction.

You know what? Your logic is flawless. I've renounced my faith because of it. You've converted a believer to a non-believer. Nice work.

It does not follow that you must renounce your faith just because your answer to one religious question didn't seem to make sense.

So, playing along, if that's all it took to shake you so thoroughly, I can't really take credit for your profound lack of conviction.

Not playing along, however, it's disingenuous of you to jump at the opportunity to get on your high horse about having rational conversation and then short circuit our exchange with sarcastic deflection.

I get you. Mentioning that you're Christian on Reddit leads to a berating for 4 or 5 days where you just get worn out. You have come at the tail end of everything and I just don't feel like talking about it anymore.

The only point that I was trying to make is that when someone is labeled Christian by a non-believer, they're attributed qualities that not every believer has. We're not all nutso. I know people have had negative experiences with religion, but in my life it offers nothing but joy and hope.

Silly hypotheticals to help me find inconsistencies in my faith is everything I've been dealing with in the last 4 days. I'm just done defending.

I get you.

I'm not so sure you do. First treating me as though I'm trying to de-convert you, and then this post bringing up a whole array of things that don't seem to pertain to our exchange at all.

Silly hypotheticals

You cited miracles you see every day. These are not hypothetical.

You cited Jesus's sacrifice. This is not hypothetical.

You posed that God doesn't stop child rape because "mankind is dark". While this is hypothetical, it's not silly. It's the corollary to your decision to pray to stop child rapists, which seems a very serious matter to you.

berating for 4 or 5 days [...] to help me find inconsistencies in my faith is everything I've been dealing with in the last 4 days

I wasn't berating you. I was walking you through the flaw I saw in your reasoning.

If you think that's an inconsistency in your faith, as oppose to your reasoning or your expression thereof, that's on you.

The only point that I was trying to make [...]

No it wasn't. And the only point of yours I was calling into question, before you went hostile, was the relationship you posed between miracles and mankind's darkness.

they're attributed qualities that not every believer has

And I asked you specific questions to avoid doing just that.

I know people have had negative experiences with religion, but in my life it offers nothing but joy and hope.

I haven't disputed that.

I'm just done defending.

I didn't call into question your faith, so it's not your faith that I prompted you to defend.

I didn't attribute to you beliefs you don't have, so it's not your canon that I prompted you to defend.

I didn't berate you, so it's not your worth that I prompted you to defend.

I didn't label you anything, so it's not your label that I prompted you to defend.

I didn't pose that you're nutso, so it wasn't your sanity that I prompted you to defend.

I didn't pose that the religious experience is negative, so it wasn't your experience that I prompted you to defend.

I called into question the idea that God does not stop certain evils because mankind is dark. Important to note, I did not call into question God, miracles, or the fact that mankind is dark - only a very specific relationship you posed between them.

God's inclination to perform miracles is inversely correlated with mankind's ability to accurately record them.

you're the one telling people to pray to god to stop free will and stop rapes.....

But you just said we had free will

Which is it?

Again, if we all have free will then how will you meditating change my actions?

Spoiler: it won't.

You believe a large group of people meditating will somehow stop a pedo ring.

Implying that the meditation will somehow cause a change that would result in a different outcome than if no meditation had been done. If there is free will how could any meditation affect the outcomes of people's decisions?

But you have no influence over it?

No, you have the ability to influence yourself and others immediately around you. Me meditating will not change the thoughts of someone on the other side of the world.

I think you screwed up your time zones and have them backward. UTC time is earlier that EST time. Fix that please.

Thanks to the OP for reposting this.

Working with with Mageant (the OP of the original thread) I created MeditateChange.net to coordinate this event. We have a guided meditation video going up on the page in the next few hours.

If you have Facebook please follow the event here. It will help us track numbers. Like our page and follow (see first) to keep up with upcoming news and meditations.

We need your help. If you can, please spread the word far and wide. Facebook groups, Twitter, comment sections, other reddit subs, etc. If people can reach out to David Seaman and other influential social media people that'd be amazing. I'd love to try and get David Wilcock to pick us up.

Thank you friends. Let's make a difference :)

I'm still waiting for scientific evidence. These blogspot pages/you tube videos from fringe "scientists" don't prove anything other than people are fools.

Facepalming so hard.

By your logic China could essentially control the world by mass meditation as they have 1/6 of the population of the planet. They have the control and coordination of their population, something no other nation has.

The bullshit meter is off the charts on this!

Go find your own proof. Faith is beyond proof and if you want some that's your journey to make

That is a cop out answer. Simply believing something works does not make it so.

The Power of Prayer

"Are any of you suffering hardships? You should pray. Are any of you happy? You should sing praises. Are any of you sick? You should call for the elders of the church to come and pray over you, anointing you with oil in the name of the Lord. Such a prayer offered in faith will heal the sick, and the Lord will make you well. And if you have committed any sins, you will be forgiven.

Confess your sins to each other and pray for each other so that you may be healed. The earnest prayer of a righteous person has great power and produces wonderful results. Elijah was as human as we are, and yet when he prayed earnestly that no rain would fall, none fell for three and a half years! Then, when he prayed again, the sky sent down rain and the earth began to yield its crops.

My dear brothers and sisters, if someone among you wanders away from the truth and is brought back, you can be sure that whoever brings the sinner back from wandering will save that person from death and bring about the forgiveness of many sins.

Gracias.

There is an apparent plan for witches to use this day to counter us. Doing some form of mass ritual ahead of the prayer. I advise we start now. You don't have to be in deep meditation or kneeling prayer for over a day but keep your heart and mind focused on the things at hand and let good overcome evil.

Don't worry witches aren't real

http://www.witchvox.com/vn/vn_index/xgroups.html

My god.. they are real

but dont worry, everyone i know in the pagan communities are also against pedo's.

Do you seriously believe that those groups have magical powers?

Does wide-area olfactory offensiveness count as a magical power?

Beans are the magical fruit.

I believe in both good and evil spiritual power and i believe when it comes down to it this is a spiritual war.

If you really believe this then I hope that the Secret Service is trained in spiritual warfare since that seems to be a concern of yours and the others attending this event.

As nice as that would be, i'm sure its not necessary.

Well the topic here is "prayer and meditation", do you believe those have power? If you believe their is power in good intention, or the "light" would it not be fair to believe their could or would also be power in the "darkness"?

I am not saying I believe "witches" have power, but I certainly think it is possible some do. If you believe in certain sorts of evil doctrines like satanism, you are probably more likely to actually manifest those beliefs into actions in the real world. For instance some satanist believe their law is "Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law." To me that is a command to do whatever you want, where conscience and right and wrong are no where to be found. Now imagine this is your core belief system, imagine how you could do anything, and I mean anything and your "belief system" rationalizes it to being "ok" or what should be done. For instance, maybe a satanist has no real spiritual power, but if their belief system tells them, do whatever you want is our law, then maybe they could steal from you and have no conscience that it was wrong. I would not want to be neighbors with someone who has no conscience and their law is "do whatever you want."

Let me say I have no studied satanism too much, so I am just trying to give an example of how someone may not believe "witches" or anyone for that matter has some magical powers, their is also a real world power that happens when anyone starts to start to follow and sort of set of rules or beliefs.

Good god, there is no such thing as witches that can manipulate outcomes out of their control. This subreddit is looking like the town of Salem.

Firewood for sale! Come get it while it lasts

No reciepts needed!

I CC MEDIUM

FOUND THE WITCH. BURN HER!

This place really hurts my head sometimes

Witches? Holy shit are you guys actually serious?

Hey Sara Palin prayed against witches, it has to be real! /s.

https://boingboing.net/2017/02/23/a-spell-for-binding-donald-tru.html

Ignorant people trying to cast black magic spells for the first time. What could go wrong?

The worst that can happen is that they waste their time and nothing happens. Unless you're a nutter and actually believe in black magic.

All of us are powerful, spiritual beings with the ability to change reality. It's dangerous to dabble with "black magic" that you know nothing about. Especially if your goal is to hurt or restrict a person.

By the way, you're on a conspiracy forum where people routinely discuss aliens and lizard people. If you think a belief in black magic puts someone over the edge for being a "nutter", you may not like what you read here.

We definitely are beings with the ability to change the world around us, no doubt about that. But how anyone can believe in the supernatural, especially black magic, is beyond me. We live in the modern age now. People shouldn't still believe in pseudoscience and witches. At least aliens are plausible.

What could go wrong?

I guess they could knock over a candle or something and start a fire.

yea, they're serious. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4257216/Witches-gather-midnight-cast-spell-Donald-Trump.html

So a bunch of morons who believe in nonsense are wasting their time and energy casting spells on Donald trump. Big whoop.

You're free to ignore it

I'm just amazed that in these modern times, there are still people that believe in "witches" and "black magic". What are we, a third world country?

Pizzagate is the modern day equivalent of the Salem Witch Trials. Read up on Moral Panics, this has all the hallmarks.

Thank you for sharing this, we all need to do our part to fight back against this evil. I'll be praying for this great country and its people and I hope you all will join me!

Wouldn't miss it :u)

A friendly reminder: Not everyone who you might consider a witch is evil. There are many good, kindhearted wiccans and "white witches" out there who was these sick fucks brought to justice just as much as we do. Not everyone labeled a witch is working against us.

Im always curious that we might be onto something when the downvotes are SO noticeable just refreshing constantly.

Or maybe, people think this is stupid and wonder what happened to what used to be a cool subreddit.

"Look at all the downvotes! We must be onto something here!"

No, people just think you're being retarded.

No matter how many times you link this pile of crap, it won't make your delusion true. :)

Your only legitimate source doesn't support your claim.

Kek.

It's 80% upvoted currently. Yeah this post is just bombing!

Also, I love the "We are on to something if someone disagrees with me!" thought process. This is exactly what Mormons say to make them feel validated for their crazy religion.

Thanks! Might want to give a final small shoutout at r/holofractal or r/astralprojection or other spiritual subs.

That's a great idea.

Hi am the OP of that thread.

This is our website for the event:

http://meditatechange.net

You can also use this guided mediation (YT video) for the event:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5uf7WRUfA6E

Thanks for the suggestions! :)

I'm in! Months ago I came across a study that showed a 76℅ decrease of violence in war stricken areas where mass meditation was involved. There were a bunch of other studies as well, I'll try and find that article.

The power of the mind. Everything is vibration, what we think, say and do gives of a vibration. Love is high vibration, hate & fear are low vibration. The more we as a whole turn to love, the energy field around us starts to resonate to that. That explains this 'awakening' taking place right now, and explains the Earth's frequency rising, the Schumann Resonance. You may have feeling of something big going on, your body may feel different, your emotions. It's all a part of the planet waking up.

Absolutely! <3

That explains this 'awakening' taking place right now, and explains the Earth's frequency rising, the Schumann Resonance.

This is what Schumann resonances are.

They happen around literally anything with a large enough electromagnetic field, and have nothing to do with humans. They're not even limited to the Earth.

We have electromagnetic fields too.

Sure we do, virtually everything in existence does, it's one of the four fundamental forces/ The only things that don't have one exist on a subatomic scale. If something is made of atoms, it has at least some minute degree of an EM field.

But we don't have a closed planetary-sized spherical cavity, consisting of conducting lower and upper boundaries separated by an insulating medium, and that means no Schumann resonances.

If you wear some socks and drag your feet across a carpet, you'll have a larger EM field, because you'll be electrically charged. If you go touch a metal pole after that, your EM field will become small, because you won't be any more charged than your surroundings. That's how electromagnetic fields work.

What you happen to be thinking at the time doesn't play any role in the state of your EM field, you can go grab a compass and test it our for yourself right now. It's not going to change it's direction based on what you're thinking, but it will totally change if you build up an electric charge.

Vengeance is justice and I'm with you

Thank you for reminder!

I log onto /r/conspiracy and am being asked to pray? Isn't there anything more effective we could do?

There's a lot that's more immediately effective. And nobody is making you meditate, it's just something that takes a small amount of time and can be done by anybody anywhere.

Even if it has no immediate outcome, for some, it's soothing and if anything it's a nice thought haha.

haha

The elites use this power of mass meditation abd prayer all the time in their satanic rituals. Least we can do is give a theory its due process. Im in 100%

Bffft whatever. We'll all be meeting on the astral plane and joining good intention. Bully can go read some CIA leaks about astral projection and psychics and get caught up. His mockery is so out of date.

Prayer/meditation is the least we can do. That's why it's so easy and it makes it a great place to start. Anyone can join in and take part, regardless of what resources you have available to you.

We can sit down and during this time perhaps gain some insight on the more we can do to stop this.

That's my point. It's literally the least we can do.

No one is saying it's the most. It's the perfect place to start for most people.

This sub has become a fucking joke.

So go

Rather stay and mock the sheep.

What good does that do you? Do you feel better when you condone other people as not being up to par with your standards?

Just what the fuck do you think I have a reddit account for

Now now, we shouldn't make fun of the mentally ill.

What mentally ill? The only person mental here is you, generalizing a whole group of people based on the fact that their beliefs do not align with your false preconceived notions of cognitive dissonance.

What sheep? The only sheep I see is you, demeaning others for their free thought

TIL Salem Witch Trials were free thought

edgy shit dude

do you have terminal cancer? If you have terminal cancer and will be dying soon anyway, you could consider doing things that you might not ordinarily consider doing that would be extremely effective, but also completely illegal.

Yeah, if there are literally no other options, then might as pray. It still doesn't mean it would do anything.

I find that prayer has been the most powerful thing in my life.

Well placebos work if you believe what you're doing helps. But I just don't think praying has any effect on anybody except the person praying.

Even if that is true, what is the harm? Doesn't affect anyone besides me.

Of course, if it is not true, and God answers prayer, I am having influence in good for others.

Either way, I'll take it!

Great idea and I'm definitely in. Unfortunately some people on this thread don't understand consciousness and the benefits of meditation, especially in numbers. A golf ball sized consciousness will have a golf ball sized understanding of things. We'll wish for them too, to help them grow.

No evidence that group meditation does shit.

No evidence it doesn't?

I am raising three baby dragons in my room.

Well, I cannot prove you wrong! It must be true!

Uh oh, we got a badass over here.

No evidence it doesn't not?

Rabbit, meet endless hole of retardation.

Link some of them.

Why do you have the number 50+ and keep repeating it? Where did you first hear that there were fifty sources? I don't care about the shit sources you've linked all over, I wanna see the source that originally suggested there were 50+ to you, or all 50.

Why don't you question the fact that your article doesn't give you a list of those 50 studies? Anybody can throw a webpage up, dude. Do you ever wonder why you have hopped on this train of thought, and whether that makes you vulnerable to other sorts of uncited trains of controversial thought?

jesus this sub is such a fucking joke

we have a president actively trying to tell our intel agencies to kill investigations that make him look bad

and you all want to meditate for pizzagate

I thought this was a piss take until I started scrolling through some of the other comments. Fucking hell.

check out the even worse thread from 8 days ago

I guess I shouldn't be too surprised. What kind of conspiracy subreddit would this be if it wasn't full of crazy people?

the crazy used to be balanced out by rational comments who would point out the absurdity in the posts. it was at least entertaining seeing the funny crazy shit. Now the crazy shit runs the country along with alex jones

Do you mind posting a few studies?

I like how your only reliable source doesn't back your claim

Believe in what you want to believe in, but it seems what you believe in absolutely does not exist.

Reality has a reality bias.

Wow are just astroturfing this thread, huh? I still have yet to see a link to one of these 50+ mystery studies, by the way. I'm sure they're all from only the most reputable of sources.

Each of your sources have either been debunked or can be safely ignored by the simple rule of "correlation does not equal causation."

Dude, you're a sheep.

424 current upvotes and 80% upvoted at the time of this posting. Yeah that's major pushback, I hope you guys can recover from that!

Buddha used mediation for self inquiry not superstition.

Could you post some of those studies?

Hey man don't let these guys get you down. Shills or not, they're just being jerks. If they think it's dumb, they're more than welcome to simply scroll past your post

Didn't religion already win? I feel like this is the step after which I call the "Enviable decline until irrelevance"

Can you post some of these studies and how meditation was directly responsible for the results?

The amount of ignorant comments suggests there are people here wanting to disrupt ths community. As always it is revolting and pathetic.

50+ studies on it verifying not only that it works but that it's true as well.

Show me a study that says meditation will lead to the arrest of pedophiles.

Correlation is not causation.

I'll tune in next week to see if Podesta and Clinton are in prison.

I used to like this sub because the people here were both cynical and considerate of the many various anti-mainstream sources. Now it's a mouthpiece for the most mainstream and biased source of news that has ever existed - the US government.

yup. there was plenty of wacky shit, but sensible people would usually comment and point out the absurdity

now it's just the complete opposite of what it claims to be

Yup typical top comment attacking the sub. It's almost like you need to get other hobbies/jobs.

did you say that to OP for this joke of a post?

Lol at the ad hominem attacks. Can you explain why this post is a joke?

It's not ad hominem if he's attacking the post lmfao

K

Because mass meditation doesn't work and because only obnoxious insane hippies believe it does.

pray the gay transgender away

Your comment can be taken two ways. I'm not even sure which way you're intending, especially in this sub.

Pretty sad that this got almost 80 points.

Setting this down. For this I will be returning to the metaphorical dark room, of where all is formless and void, save for the presence of God booming before my miniscule near-nothingness in the emptiness of oblivion, yet a quiet one that shall not be intruded on by anyone. Terrifying, but I am safe in this confinement. The environment is specifically tailored for me to confront the terrors.

All my thoughts towards the Beltway Elite are sadistic and barbaric in nature, an eye for an eye, but deep down I know that it will not help, as they're stronger than me. I have no power in my own actions to do anything myself but pray, and so I shall. I pray that work shall be done that I cannot do myself. I'm too angry. And for this I pray that what I can do to help be done to prevent further abominations from occurring. I pray that this isn't just another ruse. I pray there is still true hope to be found and less delusion, true positivity, no McSpirituality, no McChrists misleading, no McChurches splattering their septic semantics unto my temple, and no Godhacking.

This better work.

r/im14andthisisdeep

What, did I say something stupid? What ideas am I supposed to be outgrowing then?

You write like what 14 year olds think is edgy. It's fucking cringey.

Tell me how I'm supposed to write then, since you seem to be such a connoisseur of how 14 year olds write.

The things that you did in that post, do the opposite of.

Ehh, I might do it again. Maybe I can sound like an edgy 15 year old next time around, so keep your eyes peeled. =)

Don't worry dude these asshats are trying to disempower you. Either ignore them or realize the faults in their words. Clearly a subset of users in this post cannot fathom or critically anazlyse consciousness and meditation.

oh god...this is the most passive agressive thing ever

good cause, but prayer is bullshit

You are embarrassing yourself by linking to pseudoscientific nonsense.

11:11.

I have seen that time, AM or PM, somewhere every day for a few years now...ever since my father told me about the haunted house we had lived in when I was 3-years-old.

Non-Mobile link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/11:11_(numerology)

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Hey everyone! This retard believes in numerology! Why do you believe all of this nonsense?

When i was in my early 20s i explored all of this nonsense and even believed it for a long while, until i dug deep enough to smell the bullshit.

This is wonderful, Thank you! From the bottom of my heart, thank you.

Funny how this coincides with the anti-Trump midnight tonight. http://www.elle.com/culture/career-politics/news/a43285/casting-spell-donald-trump/

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=22Tj_l4PcPs

You meant to say, funny how this is only 12 hours after the anti-Trump "witches" spell! (P.S low-level binding spells on an individual basis isn't exactly the most effective for long term results :D )

Its best to do the visualization with as much detail as humanly possible like its a movie.

Lol, that's awesome.

Yes sir, you too.

Laughs maniacally

How much is Putin paying you to post bullshit?

You know it's going to be difficult for you people to get this high again once the White house starts its crackdown, so enjoy your meditation while you can.

I see you're getting some push-back OP but I don't care. I'll pray with you. You said it yourself,

Even if it has no real world effect, it's sure as hell a nice thought. Positive thoughts have a stronger effect then most people would think.

so that's why I'll pray with you

So in other words just do whatever I had planned already?

I'll bring the crystals.

I understand that pedophilia is a problem with high society and politicians throughout the world, and particularly in British elite circles.

But with regard to pizzagate, if that's even real, why doesn't Trump do anything about it?

Top priority https://youtu.be/yXe_fN14RVI

Pray to the Father in the name of the Son and He will hear you. Ask Him to open the vials of the children's cries for Him to help and answer them today. Pray intercessory prayers for the children who will be saved. Do not pray in anger, pray with a heart filled with righteous indignation.

I hope you guys don't turn into a cult

I'm pretty sure this is what happens after you turn into a cult.

I know, right.

Prayer: The most nothing you can do to feel like you're doing something.

If it worked i'm not wasting my prayer on that... i'm praying for a few million bucks instead.

Meditation is proven to affect things. Shills just don't want us uniting our consciousness. The real conspiracy is people think we are just dumb animal isntead of powerful beings.

Reality is consciousness. I'm glad this is being suggested. Count me in!

This is hilarious!!!! "Guys if we think really hard we can change the physical world!"

And watch the next day there will be a big arrest and they will think it was their "thinking really hard" that did it....

Why would it matter if the meditation was the cause? I honestly really dislike people like you lol..

Because it wouldnt be. It would be people who work hard and deserve the credit.

Its like when someone posts a picture of a dying baby on social media and says "dont scroll down without saying amen" sorry but that does nothing. Know what saves that baby? Money and amazing doctors. Lets stop kidding ourselves. Change happens with us. With our actions.

I'm saying why would it matter whether it was "meditation" or hard working people? The goal is to end the trafficking ring. It doesn't matter how it get's solved, as long as it's solved.

And if these "hard working people" care so much, why don't they do an actually investigation?

Pray? Seriously? This will be about as useful as hitting like on Facebook to feed a starving child. As a non US citizen watching this fuckery unfold I'm dumbfounded by the fact there's no protests. Trump isn't gonna do shit, corruption has infected the highest levels of law enforcement. Might be time to take a leaf out of South Korea's book.

Even if this could work--which is can't--wouldn't a better prayer be that the people who involved in pedophila come to understand the harm they're doing and stop doing that harm?

As a buddhist practitioner, I know from personal experience and the experience of others that meditation can have profound effects on individuals. Indeed, it can have effects beyond the individual doing the meditating. This one was one of the Buddha's primary teachings. But the effects don't come from sending out vibes or messages or anything, they come from turning the meditator into a better person, who then interacts with people in the world in a better way.

It doesn't seem like the effect of this can be verified. Indeed, it seems worse than that--because a prayer to "arrest pedophiles" is so generic that if any pedophiles are arrested, you can go back and attribute it to the prayer. Why not something more specific, like "arrests Podesta" or something, if he's one of the people you really want to see arrested?

Because prayer works, y'all

You know what I find really interesting about threads like these? The massive amounts of conspiracy theorist who are so adamantly against anything spiritual, when the two are actually very closely connected. They mock us the same way normies mock conspiracy theorists and claim that spiritually inclined people are gullible and unintelligent, do they not see the hypocrisy? Open your mind to the possibilities of our incredible universe that we know next to NOTHING about . To say that we were infants in the scope of our cosmic evolution would be an understatement.

Spot on

You're spiritual? So you're saying you believe in a magic sky daddy that grants your every wish? haha magic sky daddy. U think prayer works bc sky daddy. you are dumb haha sky daddy u are idiot.

Jk let's fucking do this!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

friendly reminder : remember to breathe!

while this won't do any harm to the effects to put these fuckers behind bars...i feel like a mass protests/marches in all cities across the U.S. would be much better.... you really think meditating is going to get the government to put their friends and peers in prison....maybe, maybe not...all i know is i want some of the crack you're smoking...

As I was naming my Alarm for tomorrow at 11am, I started thinking about the prayer tomorrow. As my eyes are being opened more and more to the reality of chilld abuse, rape, and sexual exploitation for children in our world today I become more and more full of hate. Hate for these people who would ever harm a child, hate for the a society that would let this happen, just hate flows through me sometimes, through my mind, even my veins. I think that is normal actually but not healthy!

I think we should at minimum try to balance our hatred of these individuals with our equally passionate love, care and compassion for the children. When Pedogate first started breaking online I was fairly furious inside, I didnt know how to deal with this reality. My own life was actually suffering because I was so bothered by it.

For example I went to the gym and just was so pissed inside over pedogate I just started talking shit to other men while working out. Eventually I got asked to leave the gym that night, by police, and a couple days later received a letter saying I was no longer allowed to be a member there. Hatred was flowing through me, and I was cracking. I wish I had been a bit more wise, learning to balance the hatred with peacefulness, love and care. The random citizen was not my enemy so why would I let evil get 2 birds with one stone; stealing my peaceful and good nature because I was upset over other's evil deeds?

There is a Bible verse that says "For it is a shame even to speak of those things which are done by them in secret." "Them" is referring to the previous verse: "And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them." As a matter of fact the more I read those verses and their different translations I realize I do not understand them fully, but certainly see how they could relate to the "darkness" of these pedophiles and how speaking/knowing about their deeds feels as if it has tainted me myself inside, it has effected me negatively in some ways, but positively in other ways.

So as I was setting up the title for my Alarm for the Prayer/Meditation tomorrow at 11:11, I was pondering all this. I was going to name it something like "Prayer against Pedophiles" but that was when I realized I need to try to balance all this hatred inside of me for the evil pedophiles with an even more zealous love, care and respect for the victims. So tomorrow I will pray briefly for justice to come upon the pedophiles heads, but I will spend more time praying for the children, that they will be brought into safety, into normal loving arms, and to a place where they can be healed and protected. That place only comes about when we create it. So I apologize now to my neighbors who I have been mean to on occasion. I am troubled inside, but now realize I must try to be the creator of the peaceful safe place for them.

We've put together a guided meditation video on the official website for tomorrow's meditation. It might be a good addition to the prayers that you are already planning.

MeditateChange.net

Regarding the anger, I can totally relate. The key for me was to continue down the rabbithole and not get bogged down by the negativity and instead be inspired by the wonder that is the search for truth. I experienced an accelerated awakening last year and was guided to create [RealityGateway.com](realitygateway.com/reality-guide/) to act as a roadmap for others on the awakening journey.

If you have any questions, or ever want to chat about the stuff on the site. Don't hesitate to message me :)

God bless ya

Pray to be saved in front of someone firing a gun at you and see how that works out.

Aum hari aum <3

Approx 6 hours

You need Seaman to make the magic work.

Don't you know anything about spirit cooking.

'No praying, just meditating on a better future and justice for all'

It literally says 'meditation/prayer' in your post. Which is it?

I believe that also. And the 9/11 attacks was mocking the birth date

Absolutely! <3

Good on you man, way to stay in control of your emotions. I know from experience how difficult it is when you're ridiculed by everyone for discussing things like this post. Laughter always comes first, then acceptance!

That explains this 'awakening' taking place right now, and explains the Earth's frequency rising, the Schumann Resonance.

This is what Schumann resonances are.

They happen around literally anything with a large enough electromagnetic field, and have nothing to do with humans. They're not even limited to the Earth.

I thought this was a piss take until I started scrolling through some of the other comments. Fucking hell.

I used to like this sub because the people here were both cynical and considerate of the many various anti-mainstream sources. Now it's a mouthpiece for the most mainstream and biased source of news that has ever existed - the US government.

No evidence it doesn't?

You're fucking retarded.

Yup typical top comment attacking the sub. It's almost like you need to get other hobbies/jobs.

Again, if we all have free will then how will you meditating change my actions?

Spoiler: it won't.

objective evidence is anecdotal and thus irrelevant for people who deny validity of intuition and subjective experience.

pray the gay transgender away

Reddit and religion is like oil and water. Just gotta know your demo.

I'm not saying he's a scientist. So you don't need to keep repeating that. I don't think you need scientists to say something before you decide to agree with it. Qualifications are certainly useful, but they're certainly not absolute. Sheldrake is a competent individual who's spent years researching material in regards to the nature of consciousness. From my own experience in life so far, and from reading and listening to Sheldrake, personally I can completely get behind his propositions.

Why dont you just pray that everyone believes it and makes the world better? Why keep such a powerful force to yourself when you could literally save the entire world by making everyone believe?

Pretty sad that this got almost 80 points.

K

As /u/no1113 pointed out:

Don't meditate for harm to come upon others. Doing so against even those that might deserve it (like pedophiles, for example) still is projecting negative energy upon another. You're literally meditating for negative energy to be put upon another when you do that and it makes you a beacon of darkness as you channel negative, dark energy through you when you think harmful thoughts upon another. This bounces the energy right back to you yourself and in the end creates more harm than good.

What should be done instead is to meditate toward the empowering of those who are harmed by the pedophiles. In other words, don't meditate for harm to come on to others. Meditate instead for strength to come upon those who need it the most in order to fend off anyone who might try to harm them. Uplift and strengthen everyone who stands to be a victim. Meditate toward giving light and power to everyone who might be harmed by pedophilia and its perpetrators. Meditate to empower all people, groups, etc, that have the ability to shut down pedophiles. Meditate to give them the power and the strength and the courage to do their jobs and capture and turn in and imprison all pedophiles and people engaged in such activity. Meditate to give communities aware of these things the power to stand up and put and end to this. Meditate to give all of us the power to stand up and put an end to this.

In the end, you achieve the same effect of shutting down the darkness, but you do it by empowering the light against it, and you don't end up bringing in the darkness into your own sphere by wishing negativity and harm upon another.

https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/5ubmht/synchronized_mass_meditationprayer_for_arrests_of/ddt736i/

A placebo effect effecting other people that didn't meditate?

You know what? Your logic is flawless. I've renounced my faith because of it. You've converted a believer to a non-believer. Nice work.

Right, actions should definitely also be taken.