It's a bit crazy how so many people in this sub will try to defend war. My recent anti war posts have been getting heavily downvoted by pro Trump bots now that he's shown who he really is: a pro Zionist, pro war, and not for the people. Someone who they thought he wasn't.

33  2017-02-28 by russian321

It's really sad to see people change their minds on these subjects now their so called "God-Emperor" has shown his true disgusting greedy self, no different from previous presidents. If you can't change your views when exposed to the truth, then I'm sorry for you.

Edit: sorry my English is not that good, it is not my mother tongue

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Please explain in detail exactly how Trump has shown he is pro-war and not for the people

thank you

For starters, stop watching FAKE news

This isn't an answer to his/her simple question. Seriously. He's done nothing to give you the impression you have.

Building up the military isn't pro-war.. it's pro defense. It's also pro-jobs. It puts people to work. It's FOR THE PEOPLE.

not to mention that peace through superior firepower is proven to work.

Continuing the war on Islamic Terrorists is a GOOD thing.. and we DO need to be winning that one. Or would you rather have them win?

I'm still not seeing how he's "pro-war" and "not for the people"

Respond to the wrong guy? I agree with most of what you're saying.

Fucking hell, you don't belong here.

Build the wall! Jobs for everyone! Let's gerrymander walls all over the US, FUCK IT

Our military is already built up lol, we don't need more shit.

Increasing spending for military by 54 billion. Bought 8 billion worth of war planes from Lockheed in the first couple weeks. Says we need to be winning wars... Come on how many more things need to be put together with puzzle pieces. Don't worry folks, we're saving billions with planes! MAGA! Don't worry about the crumbling infrastructure, the Flint water situation, the raid that killed a group of children. We got GREAT intel, the best, just relax we're going to take care of everyone. Just give us all your tax dollars we're billionaires we know what to do!

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/27/us/politics/trump-budget-military.html https://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2017-02-03/u-s-said-to-plan-announcement-of-8-2-billion-f-35-contract

Graphic: first raid in Yemen killed an American girl and other children. https://twitter.com/BasemAlabsi/status/825685862444826625 https://twitter.com/BasemAlabsi/status/825685440049061888

Agreed. Same thing happening to me. I'm being called a shill for having friends in Yemen who keep me up to date on the raids/bombs who also sends pictures. I'm just an American who is tired of constant war. People are fucking brainwashed. Fuck Bush, Obama, Trump, and every other president who lied to the public. Hope and change, making america great again are all fucking lies.

Exactly

I've literally seen these both accounts jerk each other off. Are you people the same?

What world do you live in?

Remember, its not left or right but more up and down. Please be nice to the people you might depend on for your survival in the near future. Also look up what the dyras were, they're ancient patterns of creation and destruction and well it seems a pattern we keep getting into.

remember paid opposition

This is the correct answer. There's a ton of pro-military/pro-war astroturf on reddit, and a very sizable population of useful idiots.

thank you

i am striving to learn about plato

big thinker

[i understand pathagarus more]

Plato might be over rated imo-other than the Socratic dialogues ofcourse

is that the cave reference?

pythagaus rocks!

All I know about Pythagoras's was that he loved geometry and numbers to a religious extent.

Plato was very influential, and his allegory of the cave is interesting-but imo a newer, more empiricle philosophy better describes our reality. Also, if we were to implement something like he prescribes in The Republic, it would be close to tyranny.

imo a newer, more empiricle philosophy

pleas expound [ty]

if we were to implement something like he prescribes in The Republic, it would be close to tyranny.

please also expound TY so much knowledge is power

Not saying you're wrong but it would be lovely to have a source.

people in this sub

Why "other" yourself?

I would be more skeptical about a conspiracy group having a monolithic opinion myself.

Please name a war Trump started. If you cant then shut the fuck up until he does start a war.

Why should anyone wait for it to get that far.?

Because he may have a damn good reason for it.

Nope

Many Trump supporters were also Bush supporters. Happy to criticize Obama the warrior, but never questioned the Republicans who lied to start the second Iraq war. It's painful to watch.

http://rightwingnews.com/quotes/if-the-bush-administration-lied-about-wmd-so-did-these-people-version-3-0/

All the quotes in this link can be verified and are part of the public record... if anyone lied, it was ESTABLISHMENT POLITICIANS.

I support Trump because he's not part of the DC establishment.

he's not part of the DC establishment.

He made the chair of the RNC his chief of staff and you don't think he's part of the DC establishment?

"Keep your friends close but your enemies closer."

"Drain the swamp"

And many Trump supports thought Bush was a disgrace to the presidency and in many ways worse than Obama, they spoke out boldly against the Iraq war, and rejected the false duality of republican/democrat left/right partisanism. What's your point

Agreed. I voted for the loser thinking he was different but I was wrong. Of course, I don't regret it because Hillary was guaranteed to be 5x worse than him but it does suck! We have to hold the guy accountable. That doesn't mean creating fake Russian conspiracy theories about and wanting him to fail though.

He's only trying to keep his campaign promises.

Like Mexico paying for the wall?

We obviously need peace not war but war is the racket TPTB use to make money.

Why do we keep falling into the same patterns? It's like we want to extinct ourselves. =(

Blame on the others, huh ? PPl downvoted it cuz the logic and conclusion was comical.

It's you. You spam this thread with garbage. Don't expect a warm welcome?

A strong military is a deterrent for war. The DNC and MSM are pushing us to fight with Russia and Trump is against this, the only time Trump has called for any action is against ISIS. This thread is trash.

Some people like war because "Murica" and "supporting the troops".

People cite ISIS and Islamic terrorism as a need for an increased military, when ISIS and Islamic terrorism is created and propped up precisely because the government wants a forever war they can use. You're just playing into their hand.

There's 0 evidence of "pro-Trump" bots on here. You are full of shit.

The anti-Trump bots, however are fucking obvious to anyone who knows about bots.

You understand that the majority of voters did not vote for him?

Exactly

"Keep your friends close but your enemies closer."