People trying to debunk 9/11...(still)
48 2017-02-28 by meat_for_the_beast
I see a surge in 9/11 posts and it reminded me of a post I made 2 years ago...
I see that 'debunkers' only have 4 or so elements to use in their rationale of how the Twin Towers came down...
- Impact of a plane hitting the building to weaken the structure (only for WTC1 & WTC2, not WTC7)
- A portion of jet fuel & office room material for fire combustion to weaken the structure
- Gravity to bring the building down
- Air Compression to blow out windows and other stuff on lower floors as it came down
Meanwhile, we have the following elements (with picture/video/eyewitness evidence) to infer a much more realistic reason as to how the Twin Towers came down...
- Explosions in the lower floors
- Squibs
- Ejecta
- Diagonal cuts
- Thermite residue
- Molten steel
- Molten concrete
- Pulverization
- Victims vaporized
- Free-fall speed
- Symmetric fall
These elements fit exactly with a controlled demolition... not a natural gravity collapse with the help from some jet fuel & office room materials.
As time goes by it gets more and more ridiculous that there has not been another investigation into this event... which again makes it more obvious it's a lie and they know it. That said, we finally have one group taking on the investigation
I recommend this link to see what I am talking about: September 11 - The New Pearl Harbor
19 comments
n/a solidstatemasterrace 2017-02-28
Broken Arrow (1996)
"They're designed to survive crashes intact. They can lie in a pool of burning jet fuel for five hours without any problem"
n/a seanzay 2017-02-28
The molten steel and molten concrete that was super hot for months just completely contradicts the official story...
n/a burn_reddit_burn 2017-02-28
This is what I always come back to. I recall seeing Peter Jennings report on it live, but have had a hard time finding documentation of it since. Any links would be appreciated.
n/a Tumdace 2017-02-28
I didn't realize we had so many structural engineers in this sub.
n/a Rubulisk 2017-02-28
Do not worry about the details for all the physical evidence that you may believe make the case, check out September Clues and then review how you think 9/11 happened.
n/a meat_for_the_beast 2017-02-28
I watched September Clues years ago when I first got into the whole 9/11 conspiracy. The 'no planes theory' is very controversial even on this sub... but there are definite issues with many of the video clips of the impacts.
The way the planes slide into the building like butter... no crumple, or slow down whatsoever... and how at one angle the nose of the plane seems to punch through another side entact is ridiculous. The discrepancies go on and on...
n/a The_Noble_Lie 2017-02-28
I can attest to the authenticity of the claim some of the footage is fake. It blew my mijd when I brought it into a scrubbable medium (anything will do, I used Blender video editing)
September Clues and Clues forum is filled with gems of analysis. Anyone ho hasnt given it a chance should head that way.
n/a perfect_pickles 2017-02-28
Falsus in Uno, Falsus in Omnibus
n/a Bendar071 2017-02-28
F=ma
n/a Rubulisk 2017-02-28
The reason that the no plane theories are so controversial, is that almost all of the initial 9/11 alternative theories immediately denied it or did not mention it. Loose Change, Alex Jones, The French Connection, 9/11 Psy-opera, etc... I still think it is the best explanation that I have seen to describe the event.
n/a perfect_pickles 2017-02-28
doesn't mean shit, its still the right approach to understanding 9/11 and how they got domestic traitors to go along with the fakery.
real planned domestic deaths would have turned away a lot of the perps.
n/a Rubulisk 2017-02-28
I am in agreement with you on this. I think people, even selfish and cowardly ones, would rather go along with this if they knew people were not really being killed in the event. It means less guilt and less loose ends that could lead back to unraveling the whole thing when family members/friends try to piece things together.
n/a srtor 2017-02-28
Why call this 9/11 conspiracy. The official narrative is the conspiracy. They painted the false picture and presented to the mass. That is the real conspiracy.
Digging for the truth, asking relevant questions cannot be conspiracy.
n/a pompitous_of_love 2017-02-28
Correct. Citizen investigators raise questions about the government conspiracy theory, and then get call "conspiracy theorist" as a pejorative. It's bizarro upside-down world stuff.
n/a AIsuicide 2017-02-28
Knee-jerk uninformed reaction to posts making it to front page. I checked alot of post/comment histories of the debunkers....never a single post or comment to this sub. I'm very new here, but I've been researching this for years. All in all this is still good traction, considering Alaska University final report comes out in.....May? Also..the advertising campaign is obviously a planned addition. I would expect them to ramp up efforts going into final stretch. This is going to go mainstream no matter what. Either by true curiosity by uninformed masses or outrage by close-minded debunkers. The conflict over the ad campaign will be impossible to ignore. Look for something on it as early as next week, specifically well planned debunking pieces. I guarantee they are already working on them.
n/a Sith_L0rD 2017-02-28
I am done with trying to convince people. Allot have accepted the lies because its easier to live with. Nobody cares about the truth anymore, we live in a world now were truth only matters to a certain extent. People are scared of the truth, nobody wants to believe there country murdered thousands of its citizens and lied to them.
n/a perfect_pickles 2017-02-28
murdered thousands of fake persona, prob about 500 real deaths, assorted collateral damage from the minor offices and workers of the WTC. people the elite don't care about.
the lies are real enough.
n/a illuminuti 2017-02-28
Did you know Trump predicted 9/11?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dYOY4S1x8BU
n/a perfect_pickles 2017-02-28
the faithers are reduced to recruiting redneck
morns'experts' from KET (Kentucky Educatin TV).ones a fake balcksmith that plays with metal and fire in a wood shp.
another is a woodcarver that lives in a trailer on 18 acres and carves owls !!!!!!
scraping the bottom of the barrel.
n/a perfect_pickles 2017-02-28
doesn't mean shit, its still the right approach to understanding 9/11 and how they got domestic traitors to go along with the fakery.
real planned domestic deaths would have turned away a lot of the perps.