mandella effect

he wasnt so bad is the new narrative [well i agree FUCK that!]

This has nothing to do with Mandella effect wtf

actually i think it does

you know they are attempting to merge two realitities ...

so they have rewritten half of ours already ... so bush = good <--major mandella

........

8 dots connecting to what i wonder!

Take your pills

dont take any

Share them

sorry only thing i got to share is this spliff in my hand

pass it to the left

okie [puff puff] dokie .... ^^{^^^}

This has nothing to do with the Mandella effect. The Mandella effect is when people have different conceptions about factual history. This is revisionism. "Bush isn't that bad anymore because what we have is worse" is the narrative the media is trying to push.

The Mandella effect would be people believing Bush invaded Iraq because they had nuclear weapons.

well there is a mandella thread that explains better than i can that the merging of us and others from space require us to lose hsitory and it to merge since they ran different story lines

What the hell are you on about?

this is a real thing just a week oor two ago i was reading all about it

What the fuck are you talking about? Provide context? How are people supposed to know what you are talking about?

cuz they hang on this sub for more than one day?

you can use google

Again WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?

Cuz they had this sub for more than one day?

WHAT DOES THAT MEAN?

dont use caps the mods will be on your ass look for the link

WHAT LINK?

Why don't you just tell me what the fuck your talking about?

i added links to both my latest comments

chill dude and start reading

Thank you. Was that really that hard? I had no idea what the fuck you were talking about for the past half hour

and this is my fault how?

You have been talking about a link you read that you didn't show me, so how was I supposed to know what you were talking about?

google is broken and im boycotting....

happy weekend

Bush was a member of Skull and Bones. So was his dad and his grandad.

It's so secret i don't even know if it's real anymorez

Its not as secret as they'd like. I think the Skull and Bones rabbit hole is the most significant American based conspiracy out there.

Any legit sources? And please dont link to a youtube video with scary music.

Here is a YouTube video sans scary music.

https://youtu.be/L_YWFC1HY74

And...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFQD1bAsUlw

And

https://youtu.be/B03lvL3pVp8

The full interview is here. No visual, but the audio quality is much better.

Thank you

those damn leftist skull and bonessss oh wait

Grandad was a NAZI

Was he a Nazi, or were the Nazis an offshoot of the Order of Skull and Bones?

He was a NAZI.

It sounds like you've gone deeper than I have. Right now I'm focused on the order, but it has become apparent that they either compete with other secret entities or they are all compartments of a larger organization. Can you through me some direction on linking them to other orgs? The strongest I know is the Wundt influence and his connection to the Bavarian illuminati. Again, i'm not an expert and have only begun on one tentacle.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aLXvmZiEGWo

wow sounds like uve made up more shit than i have

Look for the Mason rights, knights of Columbus rights , Jesuits rights and the rights of the Templars .... They all have skull and bones imagery Alos the NAZI SS used skull and bones

I think you mean rites. It's interesting that you feel all of these are connected somehow. Care to elaborate?

All of them have a same theme and that Time waits for no one.... It's a way of saying there is no heven or hell your happiness is here on earth in the now. Live in the now experience evrithng don't let others take what is yours. The means justify the ends.. There is more to the rites that elaborate on this keep digging you will find the connectios .

the order of skull and bones goes back to the Templars

Nope.

The Skull and Bones is also referred to as 322.

322 represents the 322nd lodge of an unknown Germanic organization. That unknown Germanic organization is most likely the Illuminati.

They seem like the Templars because they plagiarized. Adam Weishaupt, who created the Illuminati, stole most of his Illuminati references from Freemasonry.

This is why Mormonism also looks like Freemasonry. Joseph Smith stole parts of Freemasonry for his own religion.

And why Ordo Templi Orientis looks like Freemasonry, as Aleister Crowley was a Freemason before starting his own organization.

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This is r/conspiracy there are no sources

Robbins, Alexandra. Secrets of the Tomb: Skull and Bones, the Ivy League, and the Hidden Paths of Power. Back Bay Books, 2003.

The Templars are the predecessors of the the Masons and Jesuits... And they are a bunch of sub fraternitis that comes from this main ones. The entire point of the bone and skulls metafor is that time does not wait for anybody your time is limited and you have take what you can.

The Templars are the predecessors of the the Masons and Jesuits...

Spiritually, not physically.

It's been well-documented that people joined Freemasonry, left, and then started their own group. They took plenty of Freemason concept with them, but ultimately their groups aren't Freemasonry.

The entire point of the bone and skulls metafor is that time does not wait for anybody your time is limited and you have take what you can. If you want proof of this just look at the piret flag.

Unless you're outing yourself as a bonesman (at which point I'll need proof so I can verify you), it's purely conjecture.

Study the Templars

I have, that's how I know Bonesmen aren't a part of the Freemasons.

and their prayers one of the thinks they talk about is Time and how time is short.

This is cherry-picking to fit your narrative.

Believe what you want to belive they are all tied together by the same belief. That Prometheus is the true god.

They're not tied by the same belief.

The Freemasonry members who left to create their own separate orders were low-level Masons. They didn't have all the knowledge (a majority of which is oral), so their orders will always never be the same.

OMG you really are a dushbag... The freemasons belive in Prometheus been the savior of humankind they believe that lucifer is Prometheus the one that saved us from enslavrment. The point of skull and bones is to say that there is no heven awaiting you...

OMG you really are a dushbag...

I rest my case.

What case? I am telling you what I have found researching on the internet. Do your own research dushbag ...

Or...if you've found research, and are mentioning in this sub, it is your duty to share it with all of us in a new text post.

Otherwise, the implication is that your research is shoddy, and best kept as head-cannon.

Duty??? Shit dude your account is 4 months old .... Once you contribute then talk...

Quality over quantity.

By questioning the timeframe of my account, you're purposefully looking to side-step, to deflect, having to deal with my arguments put forth.

So call me a shill if you want, it's obvious to everyone here that it's nothing more than projection on your part.

Yea, your comments where removed it's apprent they agree with me... Troll

Until people see the archived comments are realize that yes, you were attempting to shame me.

Get a life kid...

says the person who ordered my comments questioning him to be deleted...

What???

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Oh look at that .... A 4 month old account ... With a ton of fake carma .... Go fuck your self lusiferian

Ah, the good ole' Shill reply.

Really? I am the shill? I am not the one putting down sombody else's comments... In fact the job of a shill is to do exactly that .. tell me how much do they pay you ? 4 month old account...

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Thanks bud..

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Elaborate? All I said was "Ah, the good ole' Shill reply."

Which is true, since he's saying to me, "Oh look at that .... A 4 month old account ... With a ton of fake karma .... Go fuck your self lusiferian "

Notice how he congratulated you for erasing my reply? He wants to live in an echo chamber the second anyone questions his knowledge of things.

That isn't /r/Conspiracy, it's more fitting of /r/politics.

Stop calling people Shills and I'll stop deleting your comments.

It really is that simple.

He's calling me a shill and his comments are still up...

No, it's not. Also, removed. Rule 2.

Elaborate as to why what he said wasn't in violation of Rule 2?

Why remove the comments in our exchange? Isn't it best for impartial oversight should a lurker come by these comments?

Furthermore, how am I in violation of Rule 2 compared to him?

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OSB was a conception made to absorb American establishment. In terms of origins it is definitely an offshoot from the Nazi's. In fact the Nazi's seeded a great many industries in the US and are likely for the unseen corporation states which have consolidated most enterprises, including the US.

It terms of Nazi seeding its pretty much throughout American establishment. The most blatant I think is Von Braun, an actual SS Nazi party member who was the first man to head the American space program, NASA. No surprises there given the World establishment is quite fickle about technological control.

Von Braun's Wiki, one amongst many Nazi's who seeded the American framework.

Skull and Bones goes back to the 1800s. Its members were responsible for bankrolling in the Nazis before WWII. Both groups followed a philosophical view that the people belong to the state. That an individuals goal should not be for himself but for the state. That is why members of skull and bones funded the rise of the Bolsheviks and the Nazi. Both ideas follow a Hegelian world view that the state is gods march across the earth.

Skull and Bones seeded german industry before WWII an example is standard oil providing hitler with the means to make aviation fuel independently. There are a lot of different examples.

I'll have to dive back in again, didn't know the order went back that far. In my error I thought it was a more recent.

I'm just glad we're talking about them.

American businesses plus Skull and Bones created the Nazi party after WW1 as a pillar to stand against the soviet threat. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1Qt6a-vaNM&amp;t=8211s

If you go back even further there are links that show members of the skull and bones funded the rise of communism.

I don't think they care what form of government exists as long as it's authoritative.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1Qt6a-vaNM&amp;t=7858s

Fascist is probably the better term to use, Nazi invokes something more specific.

This

Prescott was worse than a Nazi

NAZI who believed in the ruel of one type of people and any other where subclass

Don't confuse Prescott with Nazi's - they are sweet and cuddly by comparison - Nazi's were a tool of Prescott's tribe

Like sharia-muslims then

Today's word of the day on my dictionary app was hydra. I found the meaning quite interesting.

I thought be was the one responsible for JFK's death.

The sins of the grandfather don't follow the son. always.

And Trump's Treasury Sec is a Skull and Bones and worked with Soros for years.

It's the plutocracy.

Trump proved he is willing to dupe the poor, to entertain us when he worked with Vince McMahon.

Trump is a businessman and there's one thing about businessmen, they all have a price. Someone bought Trump real quick and for a lot of money.

19.5%

It's one big club dude Hillary or Trump it's all the same .... If Hillary would had been president we would had her emails and the pedo shit if Trump it's all Russia. Somke and mirrors man smoke and mirrors

Trump is a part of the pedo shit. He hosted it at Mar A Lago.

He is BFF to Hilary

Seeing how H.W Bush is a world war 2 hero I really doubt that and even if it's truly clearly didn't stop he's son from fighting for he's country against them axis.

Mine was too. I'm not.

A rich and influential NAZI...

Yup, this Trump fasico is actually helping me on my end with telling people about other members of our government that are fraudulent and treasonous.

trump is just controlled opposition, you really think he is an enemy of the system?

I'm kind of torn on this one. My gut tells me he is controlled opposition. But if you look at how hard they are trying to bring him down it make you think he is the enemy of the system. They are throwing every trick they have at him and it hasn't worked. Had he been a career politician he would have crumbled under the "scandals" but it seems to be doing the opposite for him.

why is he after iran if he is anti system? he is just fighting for the jewish elite once more.

but i admit, i myself can never be sure. so many contradictions here when you try to figure it out

Yeah I don't even have a good argument either way. One day I'm positive he's anti system, the next day he's not.

Idk what to think. Only time will tell.

Same reason they go after all the Presidents and candidates.

I don't think Trump himself is sure what he wants to do. He's like a child whose easily manipulated and his attention span is low.

precisely how i fell too.... :/

He's a Russian puppet who probably brought some loyal GOP politicians into the Russian oligarchy fold. I gotta say, as a conspiracy sub, it's pretty disappointing. It's like going to a science sub and finding out they're discussing alchemy.

People here are bling and think progressive media agenda is some conspiracy, when they fail to realize it's just our progressively liberal culture. Apparently Obama is running a shadow government because he made sure people were briefed on trumps involvement with Putin and Russian cyber espionage.

You are way too reasonable. Get out of here!

So maybe the fact that trump is a highly unpopular president, and a shitty all around person is the reason for all the negative things you hear about him.

Only shills don't like Trump

Is this a serious comment?

I can't really tell. The only reason I'm questioning whether this might not be a sarcastic statement you've made is because of the subreddit I am reading it in.

I'm in a conspiracy subreddit and someone is saying the only possible reason I could dislike the President is if I am willing part of a conspiracy.

That's an absolutely bonkers thing to try to claim.

People here are blind and think progressive media agenda is some conspiracy, when they fail to realize it's just our progressively liberal culture.

Dumbest comment on this thread. Try explaining the media's coverage of Sanders with this "perspective" and keep a straight face.

Everything is relative. Fox News said Obama was a communist.

You're talking about news coverage. Different left/right of center corporations competing for profit. That doesn't change the fact that our culture has become more socially liberal. Sanders was ultimately seen as an ally of the Democrats even though he was an independent and continues to be. Sanders wasn't blinded by the Republican smear job, even though I'm sure Hillary wasn't his ideal type of politician.

Nope. Just talking about how they lied about his platform, his party, and his legitimate shot at the nomination.

Oh yeah, and calling California before polls even opened. Reporting on superdelegates. Fucking Nevada. Calling Iowa early. Honestly fuck you for even pretending they were fair to him.

You're blocked.

FYI, you sound like a little kid.

No need for personal insults. That's for children.

Dumbest comment on this thread. Try explaining the media's coverage of Sanders with this "perspective" while keeping a straight face.

Yup. Obvious shill is obvious.

Just blocked him/her/it

Lol a shill. Everyone who doesn't buy into the populist anti-establishment bullshit is a shill. Here's some more shilling: the only thing trump is good at is flamboyant marketing and he fleeced a bunch of suckers into thinking he's some kind outsider who's gonna drain the swamp. And Bernie shot himself in the foot with his populist rhetoric, and ruined his chance of pushing his agenda by unknowingly sabotaging Hilary.

Muhhh Russian spies. Shut the fuck up. Shitheel.

ififcanIhaveacoatplz to r/The_Donald

"Just our progressive culture" that is advancing obama and clinton propaganda! do me a favor and dont call that shit progressive ever again, moron.

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But if you look at how hard they are trying to bring him down it make you think he is the enemy of the system.

Yeah that's the point.

I thought the Wikileaks exposed the fact that the Clintons coerced their friend Trump into running, and basically called in media favors to have them prop him as well as Carson and Cruz up in the primaries so she would have an easy opponent. They were pleased as punch that somehow Trump won, and then it kind of got away from them. I feel Trump was probably so amazed that he won, that he is now carried away with it, and basically going off their script...that's why they are actively trying to destroy him...I mean, he is doing a good enough job at that himself, but removing him in favor of Pence seems like it will eventually be top priority for both parties.

That's my fear is that he is actual controlled opposition. My hope is that he is not. However, I do believe what ever the case is he is being used as managed opposition. I think many of his plans are antithetical to the plans for a NWO. That being said, with the way they are demonizing him, if he fails they (The PTHB, through MSM) will associate every anti NWO plan or policy with Trump. By destroying him and demonizing him they will also demonize and destroy any future anti NWO agendas.

"Oh come man you're sounding like that freak show who ran back in the early 2000s, yeah those ideas didn't work then and they don't work now."

If, as you believe, he is in fact controlled opposition, then why do they permit him to carry out some of the policies he has. I believe the answer to that is because they want all of those policies to be discredited by him and never taken seriously in the eyes of the public again.

That is a great thought. Because admittedly, I don't know what the fk to thing anymore... One day I sway to one direction, next day to the other....

This. Bush crime family. It's long suspected that bush senior was involved in killing JFK and Nancy Reagan believed that the bush family tried to have rondald assassinated. They almost succeeded. Then you have George bush senior going in front of the UN spouting off "new world order" policies.

Do I need to even go into how evil bush jr and Cheney are? They literally lit the Middle East on fire starting wars so the globalists can fuck up every country over there and rape their resources. Now they're flooding Europe with "refugees" or rapeugees. The bush family is one of three shadow government factions that rule this planet. They all report to the aristocratic families like rothchilds and do the bidding of people like Kissinger. The bush' family is a crime family .

You're absolutely right. I would just say that one of the issues is, is that so many people view the Bush's as acting on behalf of their family or their own interests. I believe that their motivations come from their ties to secret societies, such as, the Skull and Bones. Many people forget that John Kerry was also a member of that group. In the Bush V Kerry election we would have been fucked no matter what. John Kerry was a bonesmen who went on to be Sec of State for Obama and shouldn't be overlooked as an individual who towed the line for war and destruction in the middle east.

Steven Munchin (I think that's how you spell it) Trumps sec of treasury is also a member.

You are absolutely right too. The bush family implements the wishes of the globalists more specially members of secret societies like skull and bones which is why people like John Kerry are selected and placed in positions of power. They profit by implementing the globalist agenda. Look at the past few elections...either way we lose. With the exception of trump all the past presidential candidates have been controlled. Obama McCain. Obama Romney. Bush jr gore. Clinton dole. And look who they just tried to install Hillary Clinton...the ultimate puppet. You nailed it. The people at the top are all in a club and as George Carlin once said...you aint in it!

I never thought long distance or love based internet relationships could ever work....until this very moment.

Haaaa so funny! I'm afraid for you...I just found someone else who knows what I know.

I've only scratched the surface on this stuff and it's already feeling like the end scene of The Usual Suspects.

I know right. Just how far does this rabbit hole go? The good thing is...as we get more and more connected as a people these roaches can't hide like they used to.

Exactly, I think the PTHB have remained insulated from the people for so long they completely underestimated peoples tolerance for BS. The internet was a Pandora's box. They thought the could control narratives and build social profiles for everyone but then things like WikiLeaks happened as well as places like this. People using the internet to think, you know, could be bad for business.

Right. Which is why they are always trying to control the internet. They've setup systems of controls which monitor everything we do online, monitor our every thoughts and desires because of what we type into google and post on Facebook. They believe they can dominate us forever but there is one thing they can't control. Free will. They can't stop us from thinking for ourselves. To the ruling class, a well informed population doesn't help them in any way. In fact it hurts their efforts to try to control and manipulate things like public opinion, stock markets, social behaviors and just about every other aspect of our daily lives that they want to dominate. Just like the Magna Carta set forth freedom, and the US Revolution gave us independence from tyranny, we will reject their attempts of control and that is what scares them the most.

The good thing is, the more they try to tighten the noose, the more they are exposed and the more we will reject it. There are some of us who won't go willingly into the box cars. It's time we stood up and fought back with the power of the internet. I been in this fight for a long long time. My username checks out.

Upvote for Usual Suspects ref :) Keyser Soze was Skull & Bones!

So you legitimately believe that trump isn't manipulated lol. You had a lot of fair points until that very moment. He's not your knight in shining armor, he is the exact same thing but instead of pretty wrapping paper it is glitter duct tape. He has neo cons on his cabinet, he has Munchin, he is probably indebted to Russia in god knows what way -- he is controlled just as much as the rest of them.

Trump isn't controlled like the rest of them at least not yet. That is why they are fighting him so hard on every front. If he was owned they'd have him doing what he wants. Can't say much for the neo cons in his cabinet but I do know that his weasel Preibus has been stacking the cabinet with his people and not necessarily people good for Trump. Munchin? DO you mean Paul Manafort?

He's been pushing a classic neo con agenda but masking it as a nationalist agenda. Increase military spending, border control, tax breaks for corporations -- all focal points of neo cons. Mnuchin** is part of skull and bones society and is part of his cabinet. Carter Page, Manafort, Flynn and now Sessions have all had repeated contact with Russia. He is 100% bought and controlled, maybe not by your typical puppeteers but at this point who gives a fuck? They may not be Americans pulling the strings but every day it seems like Russia just may be.

Btw, it's Toe not tow when it comes to lines

Noted

I still don't know why this wasn't made more of an issue during Bush/Kerry election...it was literally voting for the same fucking guy. Both were "made" politicians...went to the same school, and were in the same secret society at basically the same fucking time...at least Obama had the illusion of not being part of this machine...

I think it goes to show how deep the tentacles go. People are outraged about media collusion now but that shit's been going on forever. They buried the story, there was only one guy who ever asked about it and their response were disturbing. They laughed it off.

but these guys are the baddies

*some of the baddies. Stop making this a 2 guy, good guy, bad guy paradigm.

Even Tony Blair is trying to worm his way back in over here in the not so great Britain.

This is the most retarded comment I've read all day.

Look what George W. Bush has done to help Africa, if he is bad, I like bad guys.

I thought Skull and Bones didn't tell anyone about their (presumed) goals?

Sometimes, when you overthrow the old baddies, the new ones are worse.

"Bush was a member of Skull and Bones. So was his dad and his grandad."

So was John Kerry. What's your point.

you ask why then answer it yourself?

I'm asking WHY NOW?

Same reason we're not going to hear much directly from Obama for a while. They keep the guy going out quiet while the guy coming in dismantles his system.

I figure it works like this so that the old president can't mount a counter-campaign against the new president. The old presidently shouldn't be out talking shit, because it would cause his loyal followers to suck at his teat and could cause issues and further divide the country.

I figure, now Trump's in, so Bush can run his mouth about stuff in a chill capacity. He's gone away for a while, and now when he comes back, people are more relaxed.

I totally made this up.

But Obama is clearly doing exacly that. Staying in DC to distrupt the current administration. He's not even being subtle about it... Eric Holder confirmed it proudly for fuck's sake! I agree though, from what I've seen of the refent Dubleyuh interviews, he's actually been moderately fair to Trump.

He's been on Vaca lmao

I think this is a rhetorical question...but he's currently selling a book of oil painting (i'm not trolling, it's true!) so he's plugging it on TV shows

Exactly. And I haven't seen anybody worshipping what he did as president, but more they understand what made him so electable in the first place. The whole, "someone you could have a beer with".

Which, I have to agree. Terrible president, probably a decent person...If he never had power.

I really liked him here

I predict the_donald and 4chan will link him to pedophilia within the next few months.

I predict the sky will turn purple.

I predict the streets will run red with the blood of pedophiles.

let's meme this into reality.

They'll find a couple triangles in his art and start foaming at the mouth.

I don't know man, have you seen his art? Something fishy is definitely going on. Certainly enough to demand an investigation.

Just look at this painting. There's a skull in that picture. You know who had skulls? The Nazis. Bush is the head of a secret organization of Nazis who work for mole people, confirmed.

WAKE UP SHEEEPLE

I also heard he has a spooky skeleton inside him.

big if true

He himself has killed many people with his own hands. Go see where he was working for many years and how many people he put to death personally. The man is a fucking genius who played the people to fight his daddies war. And he did it by playing the fool.

He himself has killed many people with his own hands. Go see where he was working for many years and how many people he put to death personally.

I have no idea q here to even start looking with this. So...since you made the claim, mind providing some legit sources?

He was executioner and chief. Literally the most simple Google search. And also if you know what you are talking about you already know this. Sorry I assume people's intelligence on a topic being discussed.

Great! So providing sources should be no problem for you?

Literally type George w bush executioner and chief. What is so difficult?

I'm obviously Google-retarded.

But since you seem well-versed in search the interwebs, can you just go ahead and directly link those sources for me? What is so difficult?

You mean his book?

There you go, how simple is that?

I've been asking you to source your argument...because you stated it very matter-of-factly and I'm interested to know more.

Instead of just citing where you're getting your knowledge (like a normal person who is confident in their opinion) you've chosen to tell me to Google it. Twice. And then you decided to be smug and link to Let Me Google That For You.

You're the one throwing around some pretty serious accusations, and that means that the burden of proof is on you. Based on your citations thus far, you appear to be basing your ideas on 5.1 million search results...which effectively implies the same thing as when Sarah Palin claimed to read all of the newspapers.

It's not an accusation I read about it in his autobiography. It's not a conspiracy theory it's his actual life as admitted by him. That's why I'm not entertaining you, it's public knowledge. The answer is in the link I sent you if you actually looked. Jesus what a moron.

Give me a link to where I can buy his autobiography, "George W. Bush Executioner and Chief" because I can't find it anywhere.

It's in his auto biography it's not the title. Lol Imbecile

Link to the autobiography?

Lol wow just wow. Does mummy still feed you? Cut up your food into tiny pieces?

I'm downvoting because your treating the internet like a salad bar, go look yourself you lazy entitled git.

Lol imbecile

Does mummy still feed you? Cut up your food into tiny pieces?

From the get go, all I've been asking from you is for you to cite your sources. What's so difficult about that? If he straight up admitted this in his autobiography, you would have immediately pointed out where in that book it could be found. That would have easily precluded any kind of dispute from anyone. But you can't even provide the book you claim to have this "public knowledge".

So far you've directed me to a search engine and then (after I pointed out how ludicrous it is that you're trying to cite over five million sources) you devolved to just calling me names and trying to be demeaning.

If you had a single iota of proof, you would have provided it by now.

It's public knowledge as in it's not hard to find. If it was some obscure fact I could understand but it's not, it's information that is readily available. You're either too lazy or too dumb so either way I couldn't care less.

Maybe I am the almighty idiot you've spent so much effort trying to convince me of. Or maybe you just have absolutely nothing to back up your own claims.

Considering how, by now, you could have easily told me the title of the autobiography with that admission so that I could educate myself with this easily accessible public knowledge, but haven't...the odds are that you're making shit up.

It's in the link, it's actually right there in front of your face when you click it. George W Bush worked as executioner and chief, how is this so difficult for you? I've provided you with the means. Educate yourself, ask yourself this, I you want to find out information do you look it up yourself or ask a stranger to do it for you? You could have read his life story by now. I do not facilitate this kind of lazy mentality.

I'll finally agree with you. You have nothing to prove the nonsense you're spouting off. Nothing whatsoever.

The yellow jester does not play, but gently pulls the strings

My favourite tarot card. But not applicable here. The point of the fool is he takes in the beauty and wonder of his surroundings whilst ignoring the dog biting at his ankles which is trying to warn him if his peril. I don't see how it goes with this topic at all other then dubya was a pretend fool.

Those that walk the fools path are often wizer than they appear.

He was probably forced to be president knowing who his dad is, and the people who work with his dad.

He's an alcoholic

Lol a decent person? What sub is this?

'member when Guccifer circulated bush paintings lifted off his server?

I wrote one of my final papers (as an undergrad art history major) on those paintings. Specifically his self portrait in the shower, comparing it to the famous Bar at the Folies-Bergere ... basically just did it to troll my favorite professor, but it's not an invalid comparison. Dubya is a promising artist.

That's pretty funny! I thought you were only kidding that he's a promising artist so I Googled his stuff. Its surprisingly good!

And his paintings aren't terrible!

his is a talented painter, which is something i never would have expected

he should do a show like bob Ross did. I'd watch the hell out of that. As long as he's cracking jokes and whatnot

I imagine it takes him/an avg person many days to do a painting, unlike Bob Ross who does them in 20 minutes

Ah, good point. Maybe a documentary then

He's also extremely intelligent, despite his what the media would have liked us to believe.

I'm not defending his presidency, but his caricature as a dumb aloof goof is pure fabrication.

No it can't be. He's in a secret society and it's all to demolish the image of Trump!!!!!!

i really doubt a POTUS needs to go on shitty talk shows to plug his book. but you know, whatever

Finally, sanity.

And the money go to the vets or something like that.

Its like when the boss steps in to do the work himself when things are falling apart. Bush has to get hands on now because his empire is crumbling. This is just one theory though.

Lol no, just another pawn.

It's an attack on Trump by the GOP establishment. Bush is going around calling Trump "racist" and the like.

The Bushes hate Trump for obvious reasons.

Also a way to get the mindless idiots on this site to repeat "Wow I didn't always agree with W but I never doubted that his heart was in the right place" and other similarly stupid shit.

The liberals where I work are all, "wtf I love war criminals now!"

Quote unquote "Liberal" here. Fuck George. Fuck 'em raw.

So is it an enemy of my enemy is my friend situation? Serious question. Because Trump is attacked by both sides of the isle, and has been ever since he decided to run. Perhaps that's all for show, but as someone in the middle I'm trying to understand what's going on in the quote-unquote liberal heads.

The reality is that the elites will allow people to play the 'liberal vs. conservative' game as long as it keeps them docile, divided, and manipulated.

Once the deep state begins to reveal itself (as we're seeing now), the labels are no longer useful (if they ever really were to begin with).

I think that it has been a tool to maintain docility and division in the past. I'm starting to see something much worse lately. I think there is a cold-civil war brewing. They will escalate the division in a last ditch effort to maintain their concealment.

I agree - I think the divide is evolving. The curtain is being dropped and they're not really pretending as much anymore.

you will see something akin to turkey in next 4 years

The great race war has been right around the corner for 50 years now.

we only really had 10 years of internet affecting presidential elections. you wait another 10 years before shit really starts kicking.

Fully agree.

this is a great comment, the paradigm is indeed flipping around to deep state vs people.

Nah, they are stronger than ever. Don't kid yourself. I used to think the same thing a long time ago and realized that only looking at conspiracy shit you get the confirmation bias echo chamber. Middle America is still blindly duped as ever before.

For the most part, Joe and Jane do not follow what's going on around the world beyond what pops up on Facebook or on the notification bar on their smart phones.

They might not even tolerate political discussion on FB because it adds more stress to their already stressful day at work.

They'll passively glance over headlines or switch the TV on to Network news when they want to feel "informed".

It was decided long ago which side of the political spectrum Joe and Jane fell on. Perhaps their father or mother watched Fox News and expressed their disdain for Democrat agendas? Maybe they come from immigrant families who's families were uninformed when it came to American politics; consequently, they gravitated towards liberal views because those around them claimed Republicans were racist and didn't embrace minorities?

And it's just a perpetual cycle that goes uncontested. An information bubble that people willfully create around themselves. They'll accept the narrative their side pushes as long as it doesn't create cognitive dissonance.

As a result, Joe and Jane will go out into the world with unhealthy political views that for the most part serve to drive division between the populace.

Uhh so as someone just educating myself on this topic, what are some reliable resources on this? I'd like to know more but don't exactly know where to look.

Yes. Also look past the Trump / Bernie factor. Look at the actual issues. We friends in that regard.

There is plenty of overlap, friend. Lots of people reject both the Bush and the Clinton crime families.

I agree with a lot of the Trump folks on none "liberal" issues. For instance I believe in universal healthcare but we'll never have it with a massive illegal immigration problem which we currently have. Putting America ahead of the world should be job of the President. Not globalism and corporate fascism we've been experiencing. The right to bare arms etc.

We don't have a massive illegal immigration problem. That is one of the bullshit stories to spread fear.

We do have a what appears to be a demographics problem for some. What those on the left don't realize, or don't respect, is that it's not necessarily a fear of immigrants (legal or otherwise) that the right wingers have, the fear is a loss of sovereignty, a loss of freedom-of-association, a loss of standard of living, loss of culture, traditions, and probably most importantly: a loss of social trust. We've already observed these effects first hand and how they've transformed the US from the 60s til now, and there is absolutely an argument to be made that much of it's due to demographic transformation. Elites and communistically minded people who see the masses as nothing more than mindless consumers, marketing indicators, in their strip-mall worldview, don't care about any of those things - they seek to deconstruct culture unless it's consumerist, along with destroying religion, tradition, and the social cohesion those things have brought, because it threatens their control and power. The only gods you need to worship are the almighty dollar and the myth of equality.

The reality is, if the US became (in the long term), a 90% Mexican country, how different would it be from what Mexican people built in Mexico? How different would it be from the cultures and governments of much of South and Central America, especially if the government is changed through democracy?

In short, it's the people that make a country, not its laws, not its land. Why not respect that?

The US has always had people that feel that way. 80 years ago it was the damn Germans, then the Italians, then god help us the Irish and Asians. Mexicans have been with us longer than most groups. Nobody can take us over and turn us into a different country. By the time they've been here for a few generations they are native Americans and will be bitching about whatever new group is moving in.

We already are a different country because of demographics. Not realizing this is both ignorant and disrespectful.

I agree that we are. That's my point. Our demographics have been constantly evolving for 200yrs. There is no single point in time that represents "American Ethnic Culture."

It's been majority white European, if you are against the sovereignty of white Europeans, in the US or abroad, you are the problem.

Who do I hate?

Okay so this is what I'm talking about. I didn't write that to divide myself from my fella liberal people. I was seeking common ground with a conservative.

I'm not going to debate about the percentage of illegal immigrates uses public services. The biggest problem with talking about this issue is racists and bigots have distorted and misused the facts leading to the mistrust of creditable sources.

No, you are allowed to hate them both, you are allowed to hate one individual without your feelings about someone else effected, Trump and Bush Jr. do not have to have reputations depending on each other.

Take me, for instance. I can't stand Trump and I absolutely despise Bush Jr. I want him in prison. Now that Bush Jr. is making appearances and appealing to my negative feelings for Trump, you know what this has done to my feelings for Bush Jr.?

This publicity has reminded me of his existence and keeps this criminal in the front of my mind. Im reminded how much of a piece of shit he is, as opposed to him laying low and drifting into obscurity.

Don't get me wrong, I forgive Bush Jr. for the wrongs he has done. I have to forgive him. He's merely human, and as a human myself I feel we all should forgive each other for the bad decisions, mistakes, and wrongs we choose to do. Forgiveness is the key to moving on, the key to approaching happiness within. But...

But that doesn't mean I don't want to see Bush Jr. locked up. I forgive him for what he did regarding 9/11 and many other ill deeds, however he still needs to face his retribution. Everyone is allowed to make mistakes, you just have to face the consequences. Every action has a reaction. If your action is killing hundreds (thousands?) of your own American citizens while also hamstringing the future generations.... well, then your consequences, your retribution will not be pretty.

Yeah he didn't even win the popular vote. He isn't 'legitimate' just like Trump.

Obama did a lot to help with that... Oh we targeted and killed an American citizen and his 16 year son in separate drone strikes? Good work Obama, those guys obviously had it coming!

Aerial strike on Doctors without Borders? More like Doctors without Limbs am I right?

Drone strike on a wedding party? Ha! Someone had to stand up and object to that union!

Fuck Bush, fuck Obama, and fuck the rest of the murderous assholes pushing for more war.

Right? And all the conservatives where I work are all, "I don't support war now!"

No it's not dude, it's an attempt to polish his image, so people think highly of him. They do this to all presidents. They give them a library, "paint" them in a positive image (pun intended, W is supposedly a sensitive painter in his spare time), and just generally try to make you look at them in a positive light, to forget about the horrible war crimes they've committed.

Yes it is, "dude." Bush is using the opportunity to attack Trump.

They don't see him as a threat. I'm sorry that you still see this guy as an establishment threat, but in afraid you're falling for the "false prophet" bait...

The establishment is very much comfortable with trump at the helm, I assure you..

The establishment isn't monolithic.

but im afraid you're falling for the "false prophet" bait...

That's because you're a typical progressive that can't understand there is more than two sides - "left right" or when you are pretending to be "objective" - "evil bad elites vs. good wonderful average workers."

Lol, progressive...

That's hilarious. I wouldn't dare label myself as part of that fictitious political football game you call left right politics...

They had eight years to "polish his appearance". Why do you think this coincides so perfectly with their attempt to undermine Trump?

Also, presidents are generally very quiet about their direct replacements.

Do you think that the Bushes fear Trump, and who/what he represents?

The GOP hates Trump because he is not one of them and he's ruining the "Jeb Strategy" of turning America from an Anglo nation to a Latino nation.

I'm not sure Bush "fears" Trump so much. No, Trump isn't going to do anything about 9/11 for instance. But Trump likely has the goods on Bush Jr. the way Clinton had the goods on Bush Sr.

But they are most certainly rivals. The Bush family basically is the GOP establishment - Romney for instance is a Bush family loyalist. Trump is not the GOP establishment, he has his own network.

So they have this rivalry. But at the same time, a lot of Critical Thinkers / Citizen Investigators are backing Trump's presidency, for whatever reason. The Bushes see who is surrounding Trump and giving him support, and may worry that they will be influential enough to kick off an American Spring.

/theory.

There are some reasons to support Trump. Best chance to stop the mass immigration. I doubt he'll start a war with Russia (Clinton almost certainly would have.)

But Trump's not going to be prosecuting any corruption or taking down any pedo rings or investigating 9/11 or anything like that.

he's ruining the "Jeb Strategy" of turning America from an Anglo nation to a Latino nation

I hope you realize that the only strategy for Latinos is basically using them as pawns like AAs have been historically used.

That is your opinion I suppose. I believe that Black people and Latinos are fully human and are capable of acting in their own interests.

Who's saying anyone isn't fully human? Lol. The ruling class has always used groups as political pawns. Blacks, latinos, gays, "soccer moms", etc.

which ruling class?

The Bushes Clintons and Obama all have more common goals and a vested interest in the current party structure than trump and far more than the average American. They are in an elite club together. They don't like the new member. It may be just personal dislike though.

I take it as a good sign that the neocon dynasty of the past 30 years is on life support and Trump will not be continuing their agenda.

Instead Trump is going to start spouting his own Russian propaganda!

Hope not. I don't think the neocon agenda was ever really in America's best interests.

Oh shit, I think you nailed it.

Since you used quotation marks do you have a direct quote of him calling trump "racist"?

He can't quote that which does not exist accept in his own mind.

No it's not you buncha dumb fuck twats. He's selling a book of his paintings. It's promotion for a book.

Good fucking god. You guys are so fucking stupid.

^Ignore this shitbird.^

EnoughTrumpSpam and TopMindsOfReddit.

Yeah that must be it, kid. Cause they definitely didn't completely hate him from 2003-2009. He magically redeemed himself since then, yeah.

How does calling Trump a racist sell books?

Maybe Trump shouldn't be racist if he doesn't want to be called racist.

Maybe you shouldn't be racist if you don't want to be called racist.

Maybe you shouldn't be racist if you don't want to be called racist.

Rule 10

Ironic then that Kanye called Bush out for racism and he's down with Trump.

I just said the same thing in a thread that I got downvoted like crazy for pointing it out. It's insane.

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That is a good question. The Bush family are trillionaires. Perhaps they are trying to regain control of the narrative before everything they have stolen is stolen back.

https://mindcontrolblackassassins.com/tag/johnny-gosch/

stolen back?? By what exactly? Stolen back by massive trump tax cuts which only benefit the wealthy?

What I am alluding to is the Anderson Trust. It was set up with $1.2 T in 1946 with precious metals captured from the Japanese. The money should have ended up in the US Treasury, but it ended up with private banking instead. I am willing they did not pay taxes on it, either. The CIA was started in 1947 with money from this trust.

http://www.romeroinstitute.org/docs/RotR%20flow%20chart-02.png

https://youtu.be/jU3FcEdCl0w?list=PLVza7sesLJh5ZR8exn0lKoCjC3ayShvdd

I wondered the same thing.

All the satanists and their blackmailed victims are banding together as the pedophile tsunami threatens to hit. Ellen DeGeneres is a monster. Don't kid yourself.

If you support that Fucking orange cheeto in office, you have absolutely no room to talk. Not saying you do, just saying...

yawn

You spelled The President of The United States of America wrong.

Yeah that Fucking pile of smegma

Congratulations, you occupy the same echelon of space as the people who referred to President Obama as Brillo head or monkey.

Quite the elite group of thinkers.

Lol no. Trump doesn't deserve to be compared to Obama.

Now you're not even addressing what I said.

More proof of your limited brain power. Keep it up racist.

Lol ohhhhhh so now I'm the racist? Hahahahahaha

Yes. Jesus fuck can you not read? You apply the same type derogatory terms to Trump that people did to Obama. You're quite literally the dumbest type of person.

Something is new and you don't agree with it and instead of addressing it like someone with a base level of intellect, you call it names and think you're smart. You're a lost child and its hilarious.

Lol first of all, I'm not a racist, I hate everyone equally.

Second of all, you're not worth trying to explain myself. You're a nobody, buddy.

Third of all, Fuck you.

Simpletons can't defend themselves, you fit into every stereotype perfectly. When challenged you lash out because you can't articulate the slow thoughts that pass through your head.

Oh, and only pussies use throwaways. Scared, slow pussies.

Hahahaha you're official review of some stranger on the Internet is quite entertaining. Keep going I have all night!!!!!! Hahahahaha(grabs popcorn)

As far as I'm aware, referring to someone with a shitty spray tan as being orange and calling them a pile of smegma doesn't have anything to do with race.

Keep it up racist.

That's a stupid fucking statement in the context of what he said.

He's making a derogatory statement based on nothing other than their looks alone. So it's actually on par with racist remarks. There are no universal racist terms for whites people, but keep thinking these types of insults aren't a substitute for that.

Making fun of someone's shitty spray tan is in no way, shape, or form on par with racism. That equivalency is one of the silliest tithings I've ever heard.

Yeah. After 8 years of "Bush's fault" they suddenly throw him around as validation for their failing party.

"The enemy of my enemy is my friend."

Also friends with Pedophiles, Satanists, ISIS, Murder, Lawlessness, Corruption, Terrorism, Sedition, Treason, Election Rigging, Election Fraud, Illegal Immigration, Bush, Fake News, Wall Street, War, Censorship, Rape, Racism, TPP, CIA, Collusion, Vandalism, Anarchy, WW3, Paid Protests, and propaganda...

just thinking out loud: how much would it cost for me to buy your 7-year-old account?

edit: shit, I thought this was a PM

Bullshit you thought it was a pm. Only a retard wouldn't be able to tell the difference. Take your shitty bait somewhere else.

oh shit, you dropped this:

whoosh

>shitty bait

Can you read?

It's not shitty bait if he gets you to waste your time to reply

Terrible attempt at trolling.

Well it was really only 6 years of "it's Bush's fault" then it turned into a 2 year victory lap after unemployment "went down" and hundreds of thousands of jobs were "saved or created".

Yes. God bless all the temporary non skilled low wage jobs going to people far too qualified for the position. Liberal lowered standards at their finest.

Liberally you mean, right? Both sides of the political spectrum have leaders who implemented very creative interpretations of economic recovery statistics.

Another trick they used to lower unemployment was to say if you had been unemployed for more than a year that you were no longer part of the workforce so you shouldn't be counted.

Now it's all Trumpers fault.

No one is doing that.

Americans are generally very, very stupid people. They don't care about history, won't take the time to read important things about our world, and are easily persuaded to care about pop culture, sports and celebrities instead. I gave up all hope a few years ago. It would take the younger generation realizing how screwed they are to change things, and they are too manipulated to care.

If you're there, move out while you still can.

Quite the overgeneralization there. Get the fuck out of America you fucking peasant. Writing shit like this, you are what's wrong with America. Move the fuck out, that's what it will take to make America great again.

People are generally very stupid people. I mean shit. If the Americans are generally stupid. The Country that is responsible for 80% of the worlds patents from 1890 onward. Then the worlds fucked.

Either have a little faith or have a little courage to opt out of this raw deal you've been given.

Why? Because it's the moment to whitewash everyone via comparing him/her to Trump. To aggrandize His Orange Highness' stupid acts and decisions and minimize and plain blot out from collective memory others' past and current crimes. Oh that shitty Trump, closing the border and treating humans as cattle... while those that manufactured the crises and stoked the popular revolts and backed the coups that brought down Libya and attacked Syria, causing a wave of refugees to wash all over the world, ah, those are sanctified, considered heroes, best POTUS ever, or victims of russian hackers.

Yes, it seems the cuddly version of George Bush is being rammed down our throats lately. You know something nefarious is going on when they start parading this septuagenarian lizard around... many good theories here, who the hell knows.

Welcome to the silent coup ^{silent coup silent coup silent coup.}

All of the people suddenly acting like W. wasn't so bad just to try and make Trump look worse by comparison are pathetic.

Suddenly Bush was just so statesman-like, has a real big heart, and really meant well but just had bad advisors leading him astray.

He was the fucking President, not some 17 year old getting wrapped up in a street gang. The wars and all the cronyism and tax cuts for the rich and just general incompetence were on him.

I dislike Trump as much as anyone and wouldn't be surprised if he managed to fuck things up even worse than W. given 8 years, but he hasn't done nearly as much harm yet. Bush has a long record of being a sack of shit at this point, but suddenly a bunch of "liberals" on reddit want to act like it's 2000 and he's just the goofy guy you want to have a beer with.

Relatedly, about the only thing I like about Trump was during the primaries when he just shit all over the Bush family legacy.

Bush was the worst president of my lifetime, bar none.

War criminal. Trump is likely to follow suit. Remember this quote?

"I would bomb the shit out of them, and take the oil"

https://youtu.be/ySdhGyqGCZk

Trump says a lot of bullshit. It's very doubtful that Trump will be more of a warmonger than Obama and Bush. It's not in his political interests.

Acknowledges political candidate lies a lot and says bullshit, continues to defend him

There you go again! You think discussing reality is "defending" a politician.

Trump is a liar and a bullshit artists. It's not in his political interests to start wars at the levels Bush and Obama did.

You really can't even grasp that can you?

And your vote is just as valuable as mine. That's why democracy doesn't work.

Explain what you mean when you say it's not in his political interests.

Trump is entirely serious about the solutions to the problems he made up. He's going to do them if they are a big problem or not.

He's got a lot of good ideas. He just has so many more bad ones.

People are defending Trump because "oh look a president that's doing what he said he'd do" when his first orders came out.

Same people say Trump is a liar and think he just said some things to get votes and not follow through.

Can't have it both ways and be correct.

The problem isn't the voting. It's that anyone born here can be president.

Yeah it is, the republicans hate Iran with a passion.

So does Chuck Schumer and Diane Feinstein.

You may want to get your read comprehension tested.

Do you read the news?

Why would he add $54B to the military budget if he's so peaceful?

His political agenda is to add to his wealth and power.

Why would he add $54B to the military budget if he's so peaceful?

Military Keynesianism.

"Aka I'm retarded don't listen to me."

-/u/jacks1000

/u/absolutego thanks for showing every how ignorant you are of politics and economics.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_Keynesianism

Rule 4. Warning.

Lmfao. Get the fuck outta here. The dude is hoping for a reason to launch a nuke. He can't fucking wait to bomb a grip of people.

You're projecting

That's not how that word works.

Obama didn't start wars though. Bush and Cheeney did, Obama just continued their legacy.

ISIS is not a country

Bush was the worst president of my lifetime, bar none.

I approve of this comment.

Things have lightened up for me quite a bit since then, but I swear I'll never forget the terrifying, depressing darkness of the Bush presidency.

People have such a short memory. The Orwellian hell that the nation was thrown into after 9/11 will have lasting effects for decades.

You know what was darker than Bush's reign? Obama's! He expanded Bush's programs after running on their removal!

You've got a good point.

Obama was objectively worse.
He could have undone a great deal of what W. did.
Gitmo isn't even closed.

Obama was objectively worse.

What's your criteria? Because based on any standard I would consider important I don't know how that statement is possible.

I'd say Bush is worse but Obama sure tried hard to get the number one spot.

THIS. Obama was everything against what he said he was for. He was a big upraised middle finger to the honest activists against peace and surveillance. Obama was the globalists saying to the left's activist base, "You dance on our string! You attack our opponents, and we don't even have to pursue your agenda! We just have to pretend for a few months in the election!"

Trump is doing his best to give tax cuts to the rich, kill net neutrality, waste funds on a literally wall that doesn't do anything,etc.

Behind the scenes Trump is doing shit much worse than Bush. He's also considering military intervention in North Korea.

People that believe Trump is worse than Bush,2$3!

Bush didn't kill millions. He's actually a hero in Africa due to his administration's initiative to save lives by countering HIV.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/President's_Emergency_Plan_for_AIDS_Relief

That said he was a terrible President but he didn't kill millions .

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Yupp. Really fucking uncomfortable reading threads that always mention "say what you want about Dubya, he always seemed genuine! He's a guy you'd have a beer with!"

Uh, no, how about you go drink beer with him in a jail cell.

If any of you guys happen to have an opportunity to see this guy, please chant "WE KNOW ABOUT 9/11" at him.

He's enjoying his "I'm not the worst president" tour.

Suck it America. You are a bunch of faggots. Im sick of this country.

you have to at least appreciate that the hypocrisy has faded if you genuinely like obama and clinton, you should love bush

This, right here, is why I rage at liberals these days (17 years ago, I thought of myself on the so-called political left largely because of this scumbag). And I already know the GOP is 100% captured by Neocon lunatics, but liberals try to tell me that the DNC isn't...the evidence says otherwise. They're mostly just too ignorant, naive, or flat out dishonest to say what kind of ideology they're endorsing.

You know something nefarious is going on in the first place.

I don't like it either, but one thing to consider is that audiences in talk shows are only cheering because of a person that gets the crowd in high spirits. Anyways, even that tactic is shitty, but showbiz.

Shadow Council; High Dungeon

He is prolly about to get called out for some kind of shiddy african medicine vaccination shotshow.

So when the Obamas and Bushes and Clintons show up together united against Trump, it wouldn't appear awkward as f##k.

Maybe he's doing it because he just published a book of paintings of veterans and he wants people to check it out?

Seriously. The answer to this person's question is so simple. Tilting at windmills here.

Dulcinea will take notice soon, I'm sure.

I just want to add I think his art is fantastic.

Had to google it, but yeah, he's a lot better painter than I expected. I'm really digging this one especially.

Is that... is that real? That is awesome

It's his guilt.

Monsters are not capable of guilt

It's a family portrait.

Remember when Laura bush ran that stop sign and killed that teen?

Pepperidge farms remembers.

I bring this up all the time. She fucking MURDERED SOMEONE. Her husband became president and she didn't even go to trial - paid out the family and daddy bush swept that shit under the rug.

FUCK THOSE LIZARD CUNTS

Ted Kennedy did the same thing, except he was drunk when he killed someone. No charges, trial or jail.

Shhhhhhhh.... Go night night now.

Thank God America got rid of the monarchy and is a land of freedom and equality now

Kennedy left a girl to drown, went home, slept, sobered up, then went to the police station the next day and was allowed to type out his own police report.

If the family of the teen accepted the pay out and didn't press charges she wouldn't be in trouble in civil court. If public court didn't press charges it's because they couldn't say she violated the law.

Not murder. More like homicide. Still, very bad.

That's not murder. It was a traffic accident and she was only 17. At least get the facts right

She fucking MURDERED SOMEONE. Her husband became president and she didn't even go to trial - paid out the family and daddy bush swept that shit under the rug.

Holy fuck you're a moron. She was in that car crash in 1963 when she was 17. She didn't meet George Bush until 1977.

In no situation is a car accident murder. In order for it to be murder it would have to not be an accident. Car accident =/= murder. It was in the 60s, when she was 17 years old, and well before she ever met G. W. Bush. Your fundamental lack of understanding about the situation is alarming since you seem to have taken a strong stance based off of misinformation.

Rectum, hell! Damn near killed'em!

I guess it's real? This is the only picture of it I could find. I'd like to find a full, finished version.

are you joking? it's an obvious shop. if you really want to know it's a picture from 2007.

".S. President George W. Bush helps paint a mural along side City Year volunteers, as part of a community service activity in honor of Martin Luther King day at Cardozo High School January 15, 2007 in Washington, DC. (Photo by Kevin Dietsch-Pool/Getty Images)"

It is a fake picture. The painting is by someone else. Photoshopped.

Photoshopped. The joke is he's a murderer.

He paints dogs and cats IRL

Also himself naked in a bath.

Lol

Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse? Yikes...

Yeah, but it's pretty badass.

Spoiler: America is the pale horse.

We ride at midnight.

I only ride when the narwhal bacons.

So you will be a little late

I haven't heard that tern in a long time

mmmm... narwhal bacon

After this election?

Ha, no. Now you're the grey horse who drank a gallon of LSD.

Sweet. Lucky ne

Love this

A very accurate rendition at that I may add:

And I saw when the Lamb opened one of the seals, and I heard, as it were the noise of thunder, one of the four beasts saying, Come and see.

And I saw, and behold a white horse: and he that sat on him had a bow; and a crown was given unto him: and he went forth conquering, and to conquer.

And when he had opened the second seal, I heard the second beast say, Come and see.

And there went out another horse that was red: and power was given to him that sat thereon to take peace from the earth, and that they should kill one another: and there was given unto him a great sword.

And when he had opened the third seal, I heard the third beast say, Come and see. And I beheld, and lo a black horse; and he that sat on him had a pair of balances in his hand.

And I heard a voice in the midst of the four beasts say, A measure of wheat for a penny, and three measures of barley for a penny; and see thou hurt not the oil and the wine.

And when he had opened the fourth seal, I heard the voice of the fourth beast say, Come and see.

And I looked, and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat on him was Death, and Hell followed with him. And power was given unto them over the fourth part of the earth, to kill with sword, and with hunger, and with death, and with the beasts of the earth.

♃♂♀☿

Cheney, Rumsfeld, Ashcroft, Wolfowitz?

I think he's trying to tell us something

I think he's trying to tell us something

That can't be real..it's way over the top he'd be so scary to our faces like that...right? Someone please tell me this is fake so I can sleep tonight

why do they have human teeth! that's terrifying

He's painting the literal end of days. Of course they're going to be terrifying. What did you expect, my little ponies?

Hitler and Churchill were also painters.

So what?

Nothing in particular just didn't find it surprising he arts at a moderate skill level.

Well that's just hideous.

To each his own.

It's Jake from State farm at 2 in the morning!

Holy shit he's a better artist than he was a politician lol.

I know right?

That ain't saying much tho is it?

I mean, you could argue that Hitler was as well.

Damn, I always likened him to Claudius of Rome. Didnt think he was as brain dead as everyone tried to make it seem.

I had a feeling there was something going on in there. He may not be an intellectual genius, but he's creative. He's got his own style and for someone who only started painting in the past couple years, he's doing pretty well.

Lol people don't realize that is fake

Photoshopped. He did not paint that.

Well damn. I kind of liked it.

Then go tell the artist you liked it. I'm sure he'll appreciate it.

http://godcharon.deviantart.com/

Oh shit, thank you for the link!

The number of people that think this is real speaks to the credibility of this sub.

Underrated comment right here

Ah, so he didn't paint that one? That's kind of disappointing. I was hoping he was going through his goth phase.

Jesus! There is something a little too on the nose about GWB painting a picture of the four horsemen of the apocalypse.

Lets just put a happy little horseman, just right here, tucked in nice.

There are no mistakes, just happy apocalypses.

It's impressive how much emotion is in his paintings. Have you seen the ghost of the Iraqi child?

There's a few of the ghost child. There's even one of him holding a dead Iraqi child. That man has some demons. I mean, of course he would. I liked that he's dealing with them.

Holy shit yea. I never thought I'd say this but George Dubya contributed something cool to the world.

You know there are certain countries and even potential States within the Republic that he cannot go to, or he will face war crimes. I'm not making this up, a lot of living Presidents are limited to what Nations they can visit because of past wars/conflicts.

If you aren't making this up...you need to provide a reputable source.

Doesn't matter, he's a criminal and responsible for millions of deaths

and responsible for millions of deaths

Need a reputable source on that. Last time I checked...it was only in the thousands.

Sounds like you're only counting one side.

"George Bush was a painter, who only used the colour red"

Since trump started to run you can literally track how much more positively people were posting about Bush, remember the trump inauguration? Bush was so cute and nice with his raincoat that Reddit has a nice circle jerk about the good old bush. This is the guy who literally killed thousands of Muslims but hes a cute old grandpa now apparently. This is not about his book, Bush has been working on his image lately because people are starting to forget what he is and what he did.

This is not about his book, Bush has been working on his image lately because people are starting to forget what he is and what he did.

He is doing this for his book. It's like...a totally normal thing for people to do when they have a new book out.

Yeah as much as I dislike him he is a good artist.

I don't like him either, but his portraits are of veterans are very striking. There isn't much he can do anymore to make up for his actions but I do recognize he does seem to understand his responsibility.

Good for pointing that out, but remember that according to OP we're all mindless drones with no capability for complex thought or emotion, and people are either good or bad, no inbetween and no other options.

"Hey this guys in part responsible for leading the nation into multi trillion dollar war where hundreds of thousands of civilians died along with American troops BUT HE MAKES COOL PAINTINGS SO IT'S TOTALLY OKAY GUYS!"

Wow, the point of my post went so far over you're head it's now leaving the galaxy. Impressive.

No I totally understand you and your complex thoughts. You see things in greyscale, and because George Bush is someone you'd like to get a beer with you can forget that he played a part in the tragedy that was and is the Iraq war. I get your point about 'inbetween' but did you ever stop to consider whats the halfway point on a scale that goes from -100000 and 100?

I'd still take him back over Trump anyday.

That's just foolish.

...why? Bush did fucking terrible things that killed millions, all Trump's done so far is say a lot of dumb shit and hold up a few hundred people at an airport.

The logic is strong in you. Keep at it and youll bring sense to many

I think the poster above yours directing his comment at the clueless who dont understand about George and his Masonic buddies and not the people who are awake.

lmao no, you and your shades of gray are fucking disgusting. George Bush -- neither good nor bad but a complex person huh? Sounds like you're a fucking moron who has somehow managed to not have a clue about Bush

It's such a same humans can only hold one opinion about any given topic.

tell me, what are your differing opinions in the context of this post?

Hitler painted too. Tell us all about how complex people can talk about the good in Hitler.

What did Hitler do that was good?

Highways.

There's the answer to your confusion!

What confusion. Hitler was a flaming genocidal scumbag.

George Bush was responsible for the deaths of at least a million people, the aiming and displacement of millions of people.

Hitler was an unapologetic fascist. GW Bush may have thought he was doing the fight thing, but was a small man faced with a great problem.

I don't see confusion there. All I see are people saying "wow. Isn't that cool?" when they should be saying "That's nice. Fuck off."

You seem confused that "complex people" can say good about Hitler. What? You thought that everyone in Germany thought he was a maniac that was off his rocker, and that no one thought he was doing some good for his country? I've got some bad news for you, buddy... It turns out that people are complex!

Cant forget Volkswagen!

Thank you, exactly why he is going on tv to promote it. No conspiracy here.

The conspiracy is George Bush didn't paint those paintings. Seriously? I never once heard of him even picking up a paintbrush, and now all of a sudden he's the Martha-fucking Stewart of bullshit apocalypse paintings, making books on it and shit because obviously the president's horseshit perception of art is somehow worth the shit canvas he's shitting on?

Watch them "donate" the painting valued at 30 million to some bullshit corrupt foundation for children peddling and pocket the tax deduction. God damn scam artists

There are numerous articles about him taking up painting after his presidency.

UK bloke here so maybe my experience isn't worth much. I've been seeming him everywhere recently and had no idea about his book of paintings.

I thought that all of a sudden everyone on the left began to think he's super cool for being friends with a black woman.

Same exact experience here in NZ

Sweden too

Nothing happens in Sweden

Nothing officially happens in Sweden.

Not consenting to rape is racist.

What have you seen him on that didn't announce his new book?

Well I don't watch Ellen if that's what you're asking.

News have picked up what he's said about being president (and used it as a negative against trump), without mentioning his books. If you actually saw the primary source of him talking youd know why he was saying it, but reddit/people who care about politics are not the target audience for those shows. And of course no one bothers to actually check sources either.

I'm from Oregon. That is all.

Protip: msm is literally entertainment brainwash. Stop it. Reddit included. Wake up

No one on the left thinks he's cool. You're confusing pro-corporate establishment liberals with the left.

No I'm pretty certain the left are the folks who voted for the pro-corporate neocon last election.

Do you not think that the timing of that is insanely suspect, though? Like, he just happened to decide to publish this book at the perfect time to go on national tv and undermine the guy who made the entire Bush family his bitch?

A much better time would have been to do it during the election process if his goal was to undermine trump. In fact, he probably waited until the election was over to publish.

Sure, but this is politics. He still wants Republicans to like him, and attacking the Republican candidate on the campaign trail would have ruined any political future the Bush family would ever have.

Sometimes a spade is just a spade. He's got a book, he's touring for his book. There's plenty of other ways he could go after Trump.

I'm not saying he isn't. I'm just saying that is suspicious. And he's a Bush. And political dynasties are Machiavellian as fuck. It would be right up Bush's alley to do something like that. It's subtle and provides a convenient excuse. The thing you have to remember about government is that nothing is "just" anything. There's always a power play or a setting up of dominos happening.

He's like the negative-hitler, failing at politics and becoming a decent artist.

And Trump is a businessman Hitler?

You can certainly make the argument he was not a great president, but if a politician is a two term president (and however many term governor) he hasn't really "failed" at politics.

I don't measure a politicians success by how long they held office. Most politicians are successful by that measure.

True, but he held one of the highest, if not the highest, position a politician can get in to.

OP is a cuck confirmed

Lets just look at this objectively. Bush gets ample air time for his portrait book. So he comes in and does a bunch of interviews. The interviews consist of 10% talking about his paintings, and then 90% unrelated subjects like:

• How the media isn't the enemy
• Putin has always been a bad guy
• Concerned about Trump. Needs to be investigated
• He's somehow atoned because he paints now
• He's super duper friends with Michelle Obama now
• Loves black people

Lets stop pretending the amount of exposure he's getting is about his paintings and not about other motives. Whether good or bad.

Eh. I don't think any former president can be interviewed right now and not have Trump be mentioned

Eh. I don't think any former president can be interviewed right now and not have Trump be mentioned

That's the trick.....Bush being interviewed for his "legitimate" painting skill. (LOL as I type that)

BUT, no "real" TV journalist could possibly pass up the chance to talk politics. So, nice paintings.....What about Trump?

Yes. Bush has been planning this for years. The plan: learn to paint and publish a book. Get on talk shows. Use that to talk shit about Trump and undermine civic society. /s

You should see the plan's for the Bush sculpture tour. Literally, code named "Maplethorpe Hitler Cheney".....World Domination is at stake.

Honestly, I believe Trump to be mostly irrelevant in these 'hitpieces', I also believe him to be playing ball for the other side. Trump is a perfect scapegoat to push the Putin is bad media is good narrative.

Yeah, pretty much every time I see a celebrity go onto a talk show, they spend about 10% of the time plugging their newest thing and 90% of the time talking and joking about other things. He's clearly trying to endear himself to a wider audience with all the newly centrist ideas. Even if he doesn't really hold the positions he's touting, I still see it as a way to boost his book sales.

The guy doesn't really need to boost book sales though. I mean, from a financial point of view. The politicking and rewriting of history are the more valuable things.

You're absolutely right about not needing to increase book sales for personal gain. Because the proceeds are going to help veterans, not into his pockets. The fact that he's out there plugging the book so hard is even more respectable knowing that fact. Not saying that makes him more respectable as a person, but this particular action is a respectable one.

That actually makes it even more about politicking and rewriting history as he could just donate his own money quietly.

Fair point.

How is he rewriting history? He's not a historian. He is literally making history. His past doesn't go away. But that doesn't take away his future. I probably sound like a bush apologist but for the record I did not like his presidency at all. That being said I don't think what he's doing right now is out of the norm.

This is how interviews work. The interviewer gives the interviewee a free plug. Except it's not. Because the interviewer gets to use a significant amount of time to ask other questions about the person. As I'm typing this I can't believe I have to explain this. This is literally the format for interviews.

I still see it as a way to boost his book sales

I don't believe that is an important factor for whoever put him up to this. It seems to be mainly about two things.

• Putin bad
• Media good

This post is the first I've heard that he has a new book.

Veterans

Does no one see the irony of a war criminal profiting from soldiers portraits?

Except he is not making profit of it, the money is going to aid veterans. Maybe try not to make assumptions next time.

You mean veterans that wouldn't need aid if it weren't for him.

That may be, but he is not making money of the portraits which is what you said. Stop trying to change your original argument when you are wrong.

It's called moving the goalpost and it's the Trumpsters' most recent favorite tactic.

So anybody that doesn't suddenly do a 180 and love Divya I'd a "trumpster"? Fuck of ShareBlue.

Now you're putting words in my mouth. A person moved the goalpost, I said that Trumpsters have been doing that a lot recently. I didn't say that person was a Trumpster.

Woosh

Lol the original argument was that a war criminal was profiting from his victims. You really need to think a bit. I can't believe people like you and whoever originally replied to me.

The topic is about George w bush selling a book of his paintings of soldiers; that a great number of them wouldn't exist, if not for him. Weather or not he's directly getting paid is not the point. He and his father, and many other American presidents are war criminals. The fact that he chose to do art of lives he was directly involved in destroying is beyond fucked up. And you people "defending" him need to reevaluate your morals.

Except that he's not profiting. He's donating the proceeds to veterans.

I have yet to see any source on this.

Bush will donate the net author proceeds from the new book to the George W. Bush Presidential Center, a non-profit that helps post-9/11 veterans transitions to civilian life

https://www.google.com/amp/amp.timeinc.net/time/money/4683817/george-bush-amazon-number-one/%3Fsource%3Ddam

net

Also. Financial gain isn't the only way to profit.

He is probably profiting in emotional support from People because of this.

HE STARTED A WAR UNDER FALSE PRETENSES. AND NOW HE'S GAINING SUPPORT BECAUSE OF PAINTINGS HE CREATED THE SITUATION FOR. STOP DEFENDING HIM.

That's definitely a valid perspective.

Yeah. I got a lil worked up over it. I apologize. It's just frustrating to see support for him when these facts are out there.

Like all the people who assume Laura Welch intentionally killed someone in a traffic incident and it all got swept under the rug. The only law she violated was running a stop sign

Oh who told you this? The war criminal?

Even so. Don't you think that's like John Wayne gacy selling paintings of his victims for "charity"? It's fucked up. I can't believe people are defending this. This is why we can't have nice things.

Also. Show me some proof of him not profiting from it? Even if he's not directly profiting from "paintings of veterans"; that he helped create, it is promoting him as some sort of "awe what a nice guy".

Haha the shills on this sub have become the sub. Too heavy handed though

Right?! Like regular things do happen too lol

Yup. His publisher was like let's do this shit now! This Trump guy is making you look like a fukn gem. We're ready to go to print if you're ready to go on a tour.

And we are supposed to ignore his crimes because of paintings?

Thank you for this response. I love George W. Bush, in his interviews he was very kind, caring, and compassionate towards the vets, something they need a lot more from all of us.

The veterans that haunt his dreams through his unrelenting guilt for his crimes.

He was beyond a persona non grata on shows like Ellen, though.

It was set up with private banking instead.

He's a war criminal who knowingly lied to the public in order to start a war.

Anyone who supports him is an embarrassment to the human race.

How did he convince Tony Bliar? Even to the point of having David Kelly suicided.

I've read Tony Blair's autobiography, and Alastair Campbell's diaries (he was a very close aide to Tony Blair) and it still doesn't make sense.

The only factor that would explain Blair's role is something irrational like religion.

would you believe sexual blackmail? what happened at Camp David exactly?

Agree, 100%. As a UK person, I remember the debates, protests etc before the war. As a 19yr old, I had a very black and white view of the world in that Saddam = Bad etc and was vocal in support. What has transpired is that Blair, at best, was conned and thought they were playing God, and at the worst, tied the UK into this through greed and power.

Selling paintings about war victim soldiers... Does no one understand the sick irony here?

Exactly, war victims that wouldn't exist if it weren't for him and his cronies

He's not making a profit off of them. The proceeds go to veterans' charities.

Oh wow. Such a Good Guy!

Well at least he's doing something good to the people he hurt. Not saying it in anyway makes up for it, but at least he's not making money off their suffering

And the word of a war criminal is enough for you?

It's absolutely fucking insane.
I know a lot of these people are of recent generations and were just kids during the Bush presidency but where the fuck are the tens-of-millions of people who were adults at the time? Where are the people who witnessed his war crimes & treasonous acts? Did they get their fucking memories wiped?

Somewhat unrelated but I had the privilege to meet him last week at a book signing at MacDill AFB in Tampa. He's definitely not a reptilian like you all claim and he seemed perfectly nice in the conversation I had with him. I do believe that George Bush was simply a pawn under Cheney as he always seemed a bit... Clueless. Just my two cents, take it the way you like from a person who has actually met the man and doesn't claim to know him after reading a couple news articles.

He was the fucking president for 8 years. We know him quite well.

I once stepped on a pile of dog shit. I had to go home and hose off my shoes. I now pay more attention, am more attentive as to where I place my feet. Paying attention is good.

up is down left is right

The downest down is withing the uppest up. The leftest left is within the rightest right.

• chinese tao man

That's exactly what I've been saying too, he should be rotting in fucking prison and people are here actually paying any sort of attention to what he has to say. Unbelievable.

He's on television because he's promoting his new book.

Bang on. No massive conspiracy here, just self promotion to sell books.

"just" a book of war victims portraits that wouldn't exist had he not put them in that situation

Also, the proceeds go to help veterans. It's not even like he's making a profit here.

Yet he didn't help them with benefits or not sending them to a war we didn't want. Do you know how many if them have committed suicide because of his actions? But he will give them the proceeds of a book. He could give them 10x and feel nothing. This is propaganda to normalize the horrible politicians we get.

That's a completely valid viewpoint.

Are you blind?

Saw a documentary advertised on a thread the other day called 'The Century of the Self' (2002). It has three hour long parts but your question is definitely answered in the first.

Trump is the best thing that could have happened to Bush's legacy. You can't write a better ending to a story as outrageous as this.

He released a book. He is promoting it. Such evil.

HW is dying so GW is stepping up

But Trump likely has the goods on Bush Sr. But they are attempting to merge since they ran different story lines.

the public has to see him as relatable so that they'll be unable never comprehend his roll in the 9/11 attacks

bingo

MISSION ACCOMPLISHED

I know everyone loves to joke about that, hell, even Bush was making fun of it on Kimmel the other day. But it was part of the agreement he made with allied nations for the invasion of Iraq. About a dozen countries wouldn't donate men, money, or material until they knew that the Iraqi army was no longer an effective fighting force. So the commander of CENTCOM, General Franks, recommended Bush to go on TV with the Mission Accomplished Banner and all that, so they could start Phase 3 of the operation, using more international money and local resources.

He probably is getting ready to publish a book.

We should petition Trump to extradite Bush to serve time for war crimes. He was already found guilty.

He is selling a book and figures now is a good time to get round the talk shows

Because he is a neo-conservative, not a conservative.

The Bushes are part of the problem and everyone knows it - that's why the Libs are buddies with him.

Anything to stop the march away from the New World Order and the status quo.

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Free pdf

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Was kind of surprised they dusted that idiot off and now he's making the rounds. His presidency was a 8-year nightmare, and his credibility has been gone for some time. The whole thing is comical, but if he could fuck right off to whatever hole he slithered out of, that'd be great.

you have to admit that next to Trump he sounds like the voice of reason.

You have to go back.

I'm in no way advocating that Bush is by any means a "good or decent guy". He probably did more harm than we could ever know, and I fully agree that he has a special place in hell.

I was just commenting on the rhetoric that he delivers - put that next to Trump, he seems a likable guy.

I also think that Trump is a moron that has no spine and has his wheels turned by someone else. Bush definitely knew the evils he was perpetuating, Trump is just a moron with no knowledge or acknowledgement of the bad things that he is doing and will do.

Just shut up.

I think he's just trying to push his painting book.

the American ppl deserve Trump/Clinton

Meanwhile, the stooge shills on /r/conspiracy ignore and distract from anything about Trump.

Also huge irony about Orwellian propaganda from the people supporting the president that says only what he says is true is actually true, instead of objective facts.

Ignorance is strength. Just one more pillar and we have the Orwellian trinity complete!

Why are we not allowed to talk shit about the worst president in recent history?

Noone is stopping you from talking about Trump.

Sure because that's exactly what I said, you sure got me.

I think this will be their biggest blunder yet. I was in esist and started to say how incredibe it was I was getting downvoted in a liberal sub for calling Bush essentially a monster. Some people actually respond Ed saying the downvotes opened their eyes to this tactic.

Saw him on ellen this week. When asked about trump he brought up assasinations. Just dropped it in casually

They are so desperate to stop the direction of thought and discovery and discussion that they have celebs and 'news reporters' sacrificing their own careers to try to change our minds. I Dont get it... The truth ALWAYS comes out...

This is the rest of our lives. Get used to it,

Do you begin to see, then, what kind of world we are creating? It is the exact opposite of the stupid hedonistic Utopias that the old reformers imagined. A world of fear and treachery is torment, a world of trampling and being trampled upon, a world which will grow not less but more merciless as it refines itself. Progress in our world will be progress towards more pain. The old civilizations claimed that they were founded on love or justice. Ours is founded upon hatred. In our world there will be no emotions except fear, rage, triumph, and self-abasement. Everything else we shall destroy everything. Already we are breaking down the habits of thought which have survived from before the Revolution. We have cut the links between child and parent, and between man and man, and between man and woman. No one dares trust a wife or a child or a friend any longer. But in the future there will be no wives and no friends. Children will be taken from their mothers at birth, as one takes eggs from a hen. The sex instinct will be eradicated. Procreation will be an annual formality like the renewal of a ration card. We shall abolish the orgasm. Our neurologists are at work upon it now. There will be no loyalty, except loyalty towards the Party. There will be no love, except the love of Big Brother.

If human equality is to be forever averted—if the High, as we have called them, are to keep their places permanently—then the prevailing mental condition must be controlled insanity.

It's his come back tour. George W. He's so hot right now

He's promoting a book,

This is our future.

If human equality is to be forever averted—if the High, as we have called them, are to keep their places permanently—then the prevailing mental condition must be controlled insanity.

Promoting a book = insanity. Good to know.

You missed the title of the post, didn't you? Bush was the "enemy," he started the Iraq War, he began the process of tearing apart the Middle East, now he's a media darling and being applauded by the masses as he promotes a book of soldiers wounded in his folly.

Think you missed the title if you're going to quote "enemy" and have it be nowhere in the title. Also the question is "why" is bush on television suddenly. The answer is he is promoting a book. He's a "media darling" in the sense that he is a former President so anything he does will be able to gain a sizable amount of press if they so desire. This isn't Orwellian simply because he is hitting the talk show circuit to promote a book where the profits are supposed to go to a non profit that helps veterans. There are things to get worked up about, this isn't one of them.

And he's promoting his paintings of injured Iraq vets. Sick if you ask me

Not as sick as parading a widow in front of the nation for sympathy points.

Yeah, the democrats would never do something like that...

I wouldn't agree with what Trump did, normally. But the fake news (that didn't make a peep when 33 servicemen, including 15 Navy seals, died under a single Obama approved operation) was going absolutely batshit over a molehill mountain.

Trump fires back. And in this case, public response says he slam dunked it.

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1)I'm not saying that the democrats using the Gold Star family is right. I'm saying that a sitting President parading a widow in front of the nation as political shield while saying crap like "[The Generals] lost Ryan" is such a fucking sign of cowardice. He claims to be for the troops, but can't acknowledge failures. It was his call, and it went badly.

2) That wasn't within Obama's first month in office.

3) This is the same public that we're claiming are mindless zombies who accept everything that is presented in media as Truth, right? If the "fake news" reports that the public likes a speech, did they really like it?

Why is he even allowed to be on TV shows and all that? Shouldn't he be in prison?!

He's promoting his book you fucking dipshit. Hate him for his misdeeds, fine, but this isn't Orwellian. Get your head out of your ass. He's just trying to gain relevancy to sell copies.

Rule 4

Because if he doesn't get Trump destroyed the Downing Street Memo will go mainstream

This isnt going to stop. Why do you think the child trafficking thing isnt blowing up? The few businesses that own all the media are engaging in it along with all of their Sabbatean buddies. Literally sacrificing kids for their blood

It was really hard to figure in how he could actually be the painter type. Maybe he was placed on a throne by a system we are too far removed from to fully understand.

His book just came out. It's normal to go on talk shows when your book comes out.

We're at an extremely dangerous moment in our country's history. There are no more brakes on 24/7 propaganda and these Hillit/anti-Trumpers are willfully oblivious to what they're playing with. And through social media this ignorant mass has become weaponized by a handful of global oligarchs, banks, and multinationals to foment a coup (which is happening now thanks to Obama) or nuclear war. My advice is, do whatever you've always wanted to now, because it's going to get a whole lot worse

lol @ people thinking social media has weaponized anyone to do anything. Share this post and you to will help cure cancer!

People think Trump must be REALLY REALLY terrible for our country for someone as bad as George W Bush to speak out.

He probably has a book coming out or something.

The Fake News & the Neo-Cons think that they can use Bush to turn the Republican voters on trump.

Little do they know trump's supporters would hang both Bush and Obama. I prefer spilling the beans on 9/11 , and chucking the two & their Administrations into the NYC general prison population. The Prisoners would be so angry over the truth they would produce a throne of bones .

He wrote a book. Well, painted. I think.

Bush is a Republican, but he's also a globalist. Obama spent 8 years publicly shitting all over him and his presidency (while also continuing many of his policies...), but Dubya said nothing. In fact, in interviews he slobbers all over Michelle Obama.

Yet a month in to Trump's presidency, he's all over the media attacking him (despite being in the "same party" as the new president).

The real dichotomy isn't Republican vs. Democrat. It's globalist/totalitarian vs. nationalist/libertarian. The masks have slipped off.

Nationalist =/= libertarian. There's a lot wrong with your post, but that one is all that I have time for right now.

Yes! Call these shills out for their fake news! Fuck em all. Long Live Trump!

I'm sorry, I thought this was a conspiracy sub, when exactly did it become a cuck session for Trump?

I didn't say they were. Totalitarian != globalist either.

You pairing two completely unrelated topics seems to suggest that you believe globalism and totalitarianism are synonymous and nationalism and libertarianism are equatable. If you acknowledge that they are unrelated, then you are being grossly misrepresentative of what each of these individual topics are simply for the sake of blowing Trump. Not surprising, but still worth mentioning.

You're not very smart.

Not surprising, but still worth mentioning.

You're not very smart if you don't understand what a slash means in writing. Here is a definition to refresh your memory, or perhaps to inform you because clearly you have no idea how it is even used:

Slash /slaSH/

Noun 2. an oblique stroke (/) in print or writing, used between alternatives (e.g., and/or )

There's also a great deal of middle room between Nationalist and Nibertarian as well as globalist and totalitarians. A slash is used between things that are synonymous, e.g. you are an idoiot/moron.

you are an idoiot

I lol'd.

Nibertarian

That one got me to. However you are still are misusing the terms.

Stay classy liberal left.

dude sees an opportunity to whitewash the shit out of his legacy and is taking it. as gore vidal succinctly said, we live in the united states of amnesia.

Exactly what i was thinking... Main stream Media is turning up the volume of their propaganda machine.

Isnt this sub right wing? Shouldnt you guys be circlejerking over him.

https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/5xct4v/why_the_fuck_is_george_bush_suddenly_going_on/dehn37l/?context=3

Neat. Thanks.

Its because its finally ok for him to reappear now that there's a republican back in office and he's not such a huge laughing stock now that trump is fuckin shit up

Trump is not fucking anything up, just fixing things. The media is making it seem like he is, and you've fallen for it. Sad!

The media is horse shit that rich people pay for to keep us subjugated but that doesn't mean trump is doing things right.

You won't like this.

Yes, I don't like fake news

You can do your own research. It's all checkable.

Wrong! You are fake news.

Yes, supporting for-profit prisons and escalating the war on drugs is really gonna fix things. Very anti-establishment of him.

Thank you for making this post, it sickens and also frightens me to see people worshiping this war criminal...

Oh Dubya can take a joke and laugh at himself, what a redeeming quality... I guess that makes up for murdering hundreds of thousands of people over a lie so you can have profits and power.

because the people are sedated by their admiration of mighty wizard of OZ, or any old dickface looming above the crowd with smoke and pyrotechnics, look at professonal wrestling and rock concerts. also the same reason the majority of this kind of criminal are running around freely having a rapefest with world and we're standing knee-deep blood guts and waste applauding and crying like bitches aka idol worship

Bush is fucking pumped! Now he won't be considered the worst president of all time. Trump was chosen by the media to be worst president ever before he even took office.

The Democratic Party overwhelmingly voted in favor of the worst things that came out of the Bush years. PATRIOT, two wars, "enhanced interrogation" techniques, etc. Of course they brought Bush out of retirement to help them. They are trying to erode moderate Republican support as they gear up for the next election.

Um, he has a book coming out?

i agree with his recent comments

I was thinking about this to, and the not thing I thought of was this could be opening things up for a Obama return to pop culture and media. So dangle bush out there for something like a book then roll out Obama for a big propaganda push.

I was told by the rest of Reddit that this was a right wing sub...

Why the fuck is the previous Republican president no longer ashamed to show his face in public? This Orwellian propoganda needs to start because former figureheads should never be allowed opinions. A few triggering pictures and interviews and suddenly the alt-right forgef about Trump's promised on the campaign trail crimes against humanity.

This isn't the first time he's shown his face in public. He currently isn't in exile or anything.

Can we find authors besides Orwell and Kafka to support our cliche comments, please.

If he can't be on tv then Obama can't either

he is promoting his shitty "art" book. that looks like 7 year old could have done.

Wis the worst thing to happen to us since ronnie raygun. Bush's entire family should be dumped in Pyongyang so hta fat midget canuse them as target practice. It's what they deserve

hell yeah dude, bush is a war criminal. how is this motherfucker acting like he gives about anything but his wallet?

Why is it that you think he is to blame? Haven't we already arrived at the conclusion that a group of rich guys are running things? I can understand if you want to attack the things that happened during his tenure but the man himself cannot is more than likely not to blame. Same with Obama...Same with Trump. Figureheads do have secondary psychological functions of course.

Get over yourself, you stupid queer op

Orwellian Propaganda, or he is promoting his book paintings

He can really do whatever he wants

I'm sorry if this makes me sound dumb but what makes me wonder is if maybe he's being coerced....well okay, blackmailed. I liked him back when he was president (granted, I was 8 when he started and 16 when he left) but is there something solid here that I never saw? I knew he wasn't a perfect president but this? I can't....I dunno....😔

His family is evil. You should watch a few youtube vids about their deep history of evilness

When you sign book deals you also sign on to PR gigs. Just how shit goes for maximizing profit. But i'm just a pedo vampire from an alternative universe of the 4th dimension. Blahhhhh

If you understand how our modern day capitalism works then you're in on this and every other conspiracy /s

Frankly I think that people are harder on Bush than they should be. The 9/11 memes are heartless and he is undeserving of the toxicity he gets.

He brought us the Patriot Act and Sept 11th attacks. He deserves every bit of criticism he gets and more.

His administration fabricated evidence to illegally invade Iraq. That is not a question any more. That isn't even a conspiracy theory. It is fact at th9is point. People are just as hard on him as they should be. Maybe even too soft on him.

Because, compared to Trump.

because trump has even the left missing bush. simple as that

This is not Orwellian and such misuse of the term dilutes and muddies the actual meaning.

The talk show was more about his Warrior project than his oil paintings.. UnAmerican fucks.

He's doing it because his family is being run out of town. They've been running America since they killed Kennedy but no more. They're not going to go down without a fight.

The talk show circuit is usually how people promote things they are trying to sell. Like a book. This isn't a conspiracy just because you don't understand how capitalism works.

I think what OP is saying is that there's a concerted effort to paint Bush in a positive light right now, even beyond the talk shows he's on. I've seen a bunch of memes humanizing him, with comments saying how Bush really wasn't that bad of a guy and how people would grab a beer with him and how he seems really genuine.

People were saying those same things while he was in office, none of this is new.

9/11

Bush wouldn't attack Obama, but is too happy to be rolled out to bash Trump.

I called this thread (to myself) back in January. I saw people loving him over his little rain jacket fumble at the Trump inauguration, saying that at the end of the day they consider him just a cute old man.

I wanted to throw up.

I liked him as a president. I didn't complain about Obama either, but he had no fucking balls.

Because suddenly he's not the worst President in US History

They could be trying to turn the old right-wingers against Trump.

The question should be, "Isn't there anyone else who thinks it is irritating to see this mass murderer being the nice guy on television?"

Trump being even more of an idiot than him doesn't make Dubya cute. His blatant ignorance might have been endearing when he wasn't responsible for thousands and thousands of deaths. Even ISIS is mostly his fault.

Trump wants to imprison obama and hillary but never says shit about bush who did way worse. Starting to think he just wants to divide and make his base think dems are "un American enemies"

After the don ppl miss him

This post just made me lose faith in this sub. How can you not tell it's about his paintings?

People can do both bad things you disagree with and good things you agree with.

All the top comments are mocking the idea that anything sinister might be going on. Great conspiracy sub you guys have.

Donald Trump is just making it so easy to slam dunk on him. He's on the wrong side of virtually every issue so he's giving evil goons like George Bush an opportunity to improve their image just by taking a slightly less fascist stance on virtually anything.

Yeah! We should be focusing on trumps crimes on humanity.

He talks negatively about Trump, which automatically makes you a good person to the media.

Get out of here OP, he's a former president, just released a book of portraits and is coming back into the spotlight after avoiding much of it during the campaign. No conspiracy here freak, put your armadillo helmet back on and keep on moving nerd.

He seems to be speaking from the heart, not like a puppet. And he is trying to slow Trump so I am all for it. Maybe he's promoting his book but it doesn't seem like his primary role. I think he screwed us in the past but maybe he is with us now.

But he paints now!

Member berries are a hell of a drug

It's an appeal to conservatives. Presumably they'll be convinced that Trump is an embarrassing failure if even GW Bush thinks so.

You sound like you have the political sophistication of a gnat

Bush has PR people. They see that Agent Orange is more hated than pretty much anybody thought he would be, as an elected President. Perfect time to resurface and resist...to sell some shit and clean up his image.

A lot of millennials were too young to really get what was going on during his presidency. It's history to them. A lot of older people never really learned about any of it, and they only view his failed presidency through the eyes of the economic downturn. One of the defining objectives of the Afghanistan and Iraq wars was that most people didn't have to think about it day to day, even when it was going badly.

If you are here on r/conspiracy because you believe that the government planned 9/11, Iraq was a trillions dollar handout to private companies, Afghanistan was about oil, Gitmo was just about being evil, the Bush admin had a direct propaganda line to Fox News, Dick Cheney was the actual president, etc....

You are in a distinct minority of the population.

"I'm better than Trump!"

He's selling a book, you fucking maniac.

Ellen Degeneres is part of the propaganda game.

She gets paid to have these politicians on her show. Big circle jerk with Hillary Clinton, now Dubya to promote his new book.

I feel like I'm the only one on the planet who doesn't like Ellen (because her show is just about advertising and kids dancing)...

Same with Obama. Except that he is doing it for 8 years.

You got to understand the internet demographic. There are more commentors and social media consumers who have no idea or bleak remembrance what Bush did during his time. All they remember was Obama and his sweet pictures. This demographic does not go into details, just say it like they see it. Obama was a mess yet they call "the best Presidents" lol

He's promoting his book.....that he probably didn't write

I really dont think he was the mastermind of "the war on terror". He was more of a pawn or it's poster child.

Regardless, it's not an excuse for his actions.

He has the opportunity to no longer be regarded as the most inept president in the public memory. I think he's just embracing that and enjoying not being hated as much anymore.

I dunno Obama and Bush are neck and neck in that race. If the press had treated Obama like they treated Bush, not to mention Trump, his administration would have been a joke. Many legacy media outlets ran with the story that Obamas whitehouse was scandal free.

ShareBlue, in here fucking deep lol

They forget because they are stupid, even mindless. It's that clear. GWB is an insane idiot, and Dick Cheney and Donald Rumsfeld are evil geniuses, and a few years aren't going to change that. But 95% of them are too stupid to realize that because they are flat-out idiots.

Dude, he paints puppies now! How could he be bad?

So, what you're saying is that you've forgotten how the propaganda driven elitist state is operated?

And you think it's ever going to stop?

Please, my sides can only take so much...

A former president going on talk shows is not "Orwellian."

just saw more clips of him on GMA and on Ellen. They were talking about how cute he is and showing pics of him hugging Michelle Obama/their relationship. how can everyone be this blind? he "randomly" starts making rounds on all of these shows?! come on

George Bush does a LOT for veterans. I appreciate him as a person.

Promoting himself ?? Idk

Amazing that we have such a shit show in the whitehouse right now that the Bushs' look good in comparison. What a fucking embarrassment this administration is.

They'll find a couple triangles in his art is fantastic.

The deep state is outing itself

his advisor to him: look, doubleu, people are starting to find out you and your buddies were behind 911, it would be wise to start a media campaign to stop the mob from bringing you to justice,

doubleu: but I AM justice!

advisor: not anymore buddy, not anymore...

Kek, they hate Trump so much they decided to normalize the Bushes. First the Super Bowl coin flip, now this.

People are stupid and have shirt attention spans. Just like any "protest" a lot of people actually follow through with dies out in a few days or weeks. Presidents are puppet celebrities, plain and simple.

This guy perputrated and covered up 9/11/01, shredded the constitution with the gestopo like patriot act and started wars that killed a million innocents. A war criminal and regular criminal who became president when his father and brother fixed the florida count and the supreme court. Really belongs on the gallows, worst person and one of the dumbest ever to be president. Arrest him!

I dunno op. Bill Clinton showed up one in a while when bush was in office if my memory serves.

This question needs to be asked more. All these people I know who hated bush are now posting pictures of him and the poncho and how cute he is

Yeah, the same man who advocated CIA black sites and championed water boarding and got us into a war in Iraq on false pretenses. I remember the Bush/Hitler puppets burned in protests and the media railing on him constantly.

But now he's all gravy and Trump is the bad guy.

I appreciate your candor.

It just made me hate him. I'll never purchase a thing he sells.

He is selling a book isnt he? Thats why most guests are invited to talk shows, to sell a movie, book, etc.

The left have no shame.

The Deep State is going at it full force now. They're desperate.

Reminds me of the Biden memes. "If we make them adorable no one will notice they're really monsters!" And it works most of the time.

Shills everywhere

Most celebrities making their rounds are on a PR circuit to plug their film/book/music.

........

WHAT LINK?

Why don't you just tell me what the fuck your talking about?

I never thought long distance or love based internet relationships could ever work....until this very moment.

The Templars are the predecessors of the the Masons and Jesuits... And they are a bunch of sub fraternitis that comes from this main ones. The entire point of the bone and skulls metafor is that time does not wait for anybody your time is limited and you have take what you can.

The media is horse shit that rich people pay for to keep us subjugated but that doesn't mean trump is doing things right.

The great race war has been right around the corner for 50 years now.

So you legitimately believe that trump isn't manipulated lol. You had a lot of fair points until that very moment. He's not your knight in shining armor, he is the exact same thing but instead of pretty wrapping paper it is glitter duct tape. He has neo cons on his cabinet, he has Munchin, he is probably indebted to Russia in god knows what way -- he is controlled just as much as the rest of them.

You won't like this.

Wrong! You are fake news.

Yeah, the democrats would never do something like that...

I wouldn't agree with what Trump did, normally. But the fake news (that didn't make a peep when 33 servicemen, including 15 Navy seals, died under a single Obama approved operation) was going absolutely batshit over a molehill mountain.

Trump fires back. And in this case, public response says he slam dunked it.

Yes, supporting for-profit prisons and escalating the war on drugs is really gonna fix things. Very anti-establishment of him.

He was executioner and chief. Literally the most simple Google search. And also if you know what you are talking about you already know this. Sorry I assume people's intelligence on a topic being discussed.

My favourite tarot card. But not applicable here. The point of the fool is he takes in the beauty and wonder of his surroundings whilst ignoring the dog biting at his ankles which is trying to warn him if his peril. I don't see how it goes with this topic at all other then dubya was a pretend fool.

Not consenting to rape is racist.

Sometimes a spade is just a spade. He's got a book, he's touring for his book. There's plenty of other ways he could go after Trump.

Literally type George w bush executioner and chief. What is so difficult?

Sounds like you're only counting one side.

Those that walk the fools path are often wizer than they appear.

We already are a different country because of demographics. Not realizing this is both ignorant and disrespectful.

Quality over quantity.

By questioning the timeframe of my account, you're purposefully looking to side-step, to deflect, having to deal with my arguments put forth.

So call me a shill if you want, it's obvious to everyone here that it's nothing more than projection on your part.

Rule 4

I agree that we are. That's my point. Our demographics have been constantly evolving for 200yrs. There is no single point in time that represents "American Ethnic Culture."

Fully agree.

That is a great thought. Because admittedly, I don't know what the fk to thing anymore... One day I sway to one direction, next day to the other....

You're not very smart.

Not surprising, but still worth mentioning.