Donald trump

0  2017-03-05 by throogul

So I'm a Brit, trump plans to make income tax zero for people earning less than 25000 a year, wants to remove illegal immigrants, and actually communicates to his people in a familiar environment, How or why is he the worst president? Genuine question

http://www.moneytalksnews.com/how-the-trump-tax-plan-will-hit-you/

87 comments

He is going after ISIS, like he promised. The difference was he wasn't an idiot and didn't speak of how he would do it

he has bombed a country...and no laws have been passed changing our tax code

if you click the link to the Plan you get a 404 error. his plan exists but he has not enacted it yet, so our tax rates are still exactly the same as they were before.

Okay, but I just downloaded his plan no problem?

i know, i've seen this. i was saying that the link in the article you sent me is broken.

Oh fair, my bad!

Everyone gave Obama about 4 years & 10 trillion dollars before jumping down his throat about false promises of change and stuff, Trump hasn't been president two months and people are saying he's a liar piece of garbage who hasn't done any of the shit he said. Give him a shot at least, if you are an American who is rooting for your president to fail & slander him before he tries to succeed you are a problem. By the way more innocents killed(mostly by drones)under Obama than any other president ever so not sure if the bombing thing really has a leg to stand on.

? all i did was refute the two claims made in OP's post that were factually incorrect. even OP conceded that the bombing claim was false. where did i root for failure are call anyone liar or garbage?

don't hijack my comment to go an rant that's got nothing to do with me or what i said

You used those two reasons to answer OP's question that asked why he was the worst president, I responded to both your claims on why they are completely irrelevant. Not hijacking, leave that to the terrorists.

Sorry you give so much of a shit about reddit karma that means nothing or whatever, I was just using your post as an example of what a lot of people are doing. Also figured you were using those two things to answer his question "Why is trump the worst president?" Calm down nerd you'll totally get a bunch of karma on your next post and nobody hijacked ur comment & flew it into the twin towers, it's still there & just as good as it'd be with or without my addition.

it's like your reading my comments through wax paper....i didn't say a single word about reddit karma. i just got a notification of a response, and it was you ranting like mad about some shit i have never even said.

my post is NOT an example of "what a lot of people are doing", because nowhere in my comment did i namecall or wish failure upon the president, which are the things you listed.

you must've not read my post because it addressed both the things you said but alright

Trump can't change the tax laws and when the federal income tax for the working and middle classes is lowered at the federal level it is raised at the state level via sales taxes and higher fees for things like drivers licenses. They aren't tax cuts for the middle and working class, they are tax push downs.

Congress writes the tax laws.

Then why has written a tax plan?

It's a proposed plan. Not the final legislation

But that means he can change it, right?

Congress has all the power in that regard

Okay, they get the final say?

Yep

Are they elected?

Yeah?

Okay, sweet

They're elected in the same shady way as our presidents are. We the People don't actually have a say in the matter.

As the executive he has a certain authority to incentivise consideration of his proposals, like Obama did with obamacare. But, president can't make law.

The President can submit his budget ideas to Congress. He can't compel them to write the tax laws as he says, but he will sign off on theirs, Trumps support is the same as the group that selected that Congress.

The Republicans refused to even look at President Obama's.

Thank the maker they didn't bother with Obama's tax proposal or we would have even more taxpayer dollars going to Hamas and La Raza.

Sure, sure happy day to you as well.

I think he is only raising the floor for taxation by what would normally be done to keep up with inflation. Currently, you get the earned income tax credit at 20K a year.

Yeah you're probably right, I just can't understand how he can be considered the worst president, he hasn't done much yet. Seems extreme considering bush, bush, Reagan, Clinton and barry

A lot of it has to do with appearing coarse. People see a lot of the things he verbalizes as being beneath the dignity of the office.

Could you imagine one of the royals behaving this fashion without similar polarization? This is like living a real life King Ralph for some of us.

Aye, but maybe thats what america needs right now, something different Instead of the same old broken sysyem

A vote for Trump was always a vote for a wrench thrown in the works, not a vote for a mechanic.

Yeah man, exactly, let the wrench wreak havoc, people will always rebuild from the rubble

It's easier to take that attitude when you don't have kids.

You would want your kids growing up under the Clinton foundation?

Better than dying under Trump.

Last I checked, he wanted to 'make America great again' any reason to assume you'll die?

What he wants and what he is capable of doing are two entirely different things.

The man has demonstrated adequately to me he doesn't have the chops to take on the deep state and he doesn't have the good sense not to rile them. All he can do is make things worse.

I keep hearing of this deep state. Do you mean congress? Illuminati? Because I've seen that thrown around a lot suddenly, and either trump is the monster or its this deep state, in which case literally anybody would be screwed

They're both monsters, its just a question of how they eat children.

The deep state are the unelected policy makers in various parts of government who have access to leverage over the elected officials. Generally these people are in the military, intelligence, and finance departments.

Chances are, the people manipulating the "deep state" actions are, at this point, not attached to the government or public accountability because it has been operating since Hoover or before, depending on whether or not you go in for deep conspiracy theory.

Now we're talking, trump isn't shit, its these clowns we should be targeting! Thanks for your comments BTW! Very insightful

You guys got a deep state too! MI6 MI5 etc

Both are corrupt. Just different magnitudes of corrupt.

I would be more than happy if Pence takes over Trump.

And you know what about pence? Did you even know he existed before trump? (You don't have to answer that)

I know vehemently disagree with Pence but at least he is sane

He really hasn't done a thing to determine his sanity yet

330 am twitter rampages is not sane nor presidential

I meant pence lol

He hasn't gone on 330 am twitter rampages

Lol a man can't express himself?

I wish I could get up as early as Donald does everyday.

Plus he is a businesses man. Not a slob off the block

He's a real estate salesman.

That's it.

And America is crippled by debt, so...

And?

Let a successful business man try instead of more slimy politicians. Politicians have only made things worse

Have you ever bought a house?

Nah I'm just a lowly sltudent right now, but my friend has, why do you ask?

Because I was curious if you ever met a real estate salesman before.

I have, but have you met a politician?)

Yes.

Big difference, huh?

He's a great guy who has done a lot for us.

Who is?

Russ Feingold

He supported the GI bill? Did he also support the wars that required this bill?

No, go look him up

And would you trust your real estate agent to know how run a country of 330 million people?

If he was running a business with millions of employees already? Sure! More qualified than politician who hasn't been in charge p

Biggest number of employees I have found for the Trump Organization is 34,000.

That's not even an Adele concert full of people

Completely fair, but thats just one business, and also 'It's not the most straightforward calculation. His company, The Trump Organization, is private, so it does not have to disclose information publicly about how much money it makes or how many people it employs'

Speak to a salesman, you'll probably leave with a house or something, speak to a politician and you'll leave with?...

A 911 GI Bill

Lol what? OK I'll just go contact my local MP yeah? Sure I'll get far...

Do what the 911 GI Bill is?

I just did some jewgling and I'm not sure what your point is? Did a single politician create this bill after a conversation with one person?

Several politicians worked together to create a bill that allowed a military veteran like me to go to college for free and rent free.

That's genuinely great. But trump could do this, he's president, I'm not sure of your point? A single politician still can't do a thing

so you pick out one thing that seems to be good and ignore everything else, sure, that works..

Even Hilter did something good too.. not to compare Trump to Hilter, but even Hilter did something good.

Its been two months. What could he possibly have done to top bush, Bush, clinton, Reagan, Nixon, obama...

HE MADE ARNOLD QUIT SOMETHING

NO ONE MAKES ARNOLD QUIT...

JUST DEMONSTRATING HIS POWAHH!

too early to tell

That's what I thought too, people are very knee-jerkish with this, IT COULD HAVE BEEN A CLINTON PEOPLE

He is going to do alot of good there is just a hugh mess over here left from the last three presidents mostly obama

It's a proposed plan. Not the final legislation

Yep

Nah I'm just a lowly sltudent right now, but my friend has, why do you ask?

I meant pence lol

Russ Feingold

The President can submit his budget ideas to Congress. He can't compel them to write the tax laws as he says, but he will sign off on theirs, Trumps support is the same as the group that selected that Congress.

The Republicans refused to even look at President Obama's.