It's definitive proof that the NSA isn't the only one looking at who's doing what. It's definitive proof that the CIA is able to bypass ENCRYPTED CHAT TOOLS. It's definitive proof that the CIA (and other actors) are able to LISTEN TO YOUR TV. It's definitive proof that the CIA sees itself as something bigger and more powerful than the executive branch. IT's definitive proof that the CIA does what it wants when it wants to whom it wants.
But I guess maybe that shit isn't important to you?
Not bypass encrypted chat tools, the tools work, it the hacked phones that are the problem. And the software isn't on every phone. Just that they have the capability to infect.
Not just phones, but Windows machines, Apple machines, and the like. It's bigger than just "hacked phones," because they can hack whatever device they want when they want. The only barrier is a reason to do so.
Sounds more fun than dismantling the system that's been erected to keep us docile and compliant while the CIA and other government agencies run guns, drugs, and kill people.
Rhetoric like this is why people don't do anything. You sound like a nutter.
"See the truths..."
Seriously?
People aren't doing anything about it because most people are fighting too hard just to pay rent and buy food. Most of them would likely sign away their freedoms entirely if it won them a steady job, home, and food. People aren't brainwashed. They're desperate and impoverished. Saying anyone that doesn't care as much as you is brainwashed just alienates people.
Learn some tact and a little empathy, and you might find you win more allies.
I never said I was above brainwashing. There are plenty of things that I willfully hide from. There are plenty of things that are hidden from me (and the public at large). I am just as much a zombie as anyone. I have responsibilities that I put before other things.
I was originally being facetious, but it's true. So many people I know just don't care about anything more than finishing their shitty work day so they can get home and watch some good old TV.
You based a lot of judgment off of one simple line of text, and yet you tell me I'm lacking empathy?
We ARE brainwashed. All of us. We're totally submissive to keeping our little corner of the world alive and working.
The problem is, we're routinely being used and exploited for others' hedonistic gains.
Whatever man, I don't care what you think either way, but I'm not looking to attract followers. If I was, I'd use honey, not vinegar.
And I never said that you said that. Where are you making that up from?
I was originally being facetious, but it's true. So many people I know just don't care about anything more than finishing their shitty work day so they can get home and watch some good old TV.
And? So what? You say that like it's necessarily a bad thing. Not everyone wants to fight a revolution.
You based a lot of judgment off of one simple line of text, and yet you tell me I'm lacking empathy?
A single line of text can tell a lot, and it has nothing to do with having or lacking empathy. You're not spinning this around.
We ARE brainwashed. All of us. We're totally submissive to keeping our little corner of the world alive and working.
Not being aware and not caring are not the same thing. And not caring is not being brainwashed.
The problem is, we're routinely being used and exploited for others' hedonistic gains.
So? Just because that bothers you doesn't mean it bothers everyone else. And the fact that they aren't bothered doesn't equate to them being brainwashed. A person saying "I have only one life to live, and I'd rather not spend it on revolutionary causes" is an entirely reasonable way of thinking.
Whatever man, I don't care what you think either way, but I'm not looking to attract followers. If I was, I'd use honey, not vinegar.
If you're not looking to convince other people, then don't whine that they don't think like you do.
It's way too early to say that. It will be interesting to see how both the Trump administration and the international community respond to this... These tools would help to explain a lot of the problems they have faced thus far
Agreed. Also remember, this is just the initial Vault 7 release. There's more coming. This release is mainly laying the groundwork for subsequent leaks. Yesterday, if you told the average person that the CIA has tools to spy on you through your television, record your encrypted Iphone messages, drive your car off of an overpass, and leave fingerprints leading back to Putin, they'd think you're insane. Today it all sounds plausible.
This is definitely bigger than the shadowbroker leak. And also possibly bigger than the Snoden TAO leaks, technically. (not politically).
wikileaks is sitting not only on the full CIA confluence knowledge base, but also on the full source code. And apparently this stuff had already made the rounds.
Nope. Comprehension checks out just fine. I replied to a comment that's been deleted below about asking someone if they're insane for believing this is a big deal. But, thank you for noticing my intelligence.
Despite the fact that all the information I have seen so far is pretty much what everyone assumed has been going on since _NSAKEY, wikileaks needs a reputation polish with Assange out of the spotlight.
The only thing this release does it make the general public aware of, and therefore more comfortable with, the fact that they can spy on us. They probably should've already assumed this was happening, as most of us here already do, now they know it's happening, and you know what? Nobody gives a fuck or will do anything to stop them. This is about creating public apathy and therefore acceptance of this activity. Yeah, they're probably owned.
Nope... this stuff is very useful... We've all known what they have been doing... but what we know now is how they are doing it... the ample amounts of documentation are gonna wreck a decade of CIA coding work overnight... all their work just got trashed... these exploits will be patched and the CIA will have to start all over again... Year Zero.
LoL at the demonizations of agencies who are doing what they are suppose to be doing, finding clever ways to get info and kill people, no different than the military or any other country in history. Get a medal if you can assassinate a hundred people and 5 civilians with a drone, get demonized and the world falls apart if you're a cia computer nerd competing with Russia and China to be the first ones to figure out how to hack a car when every other cyberwarfare equiped gov is doing the exact same thing.
This Wikileaks is designed to further break down American trust in government, the ultimate goal is Russia's unmolested territory expansion
Nope. Comprehension checks out just fine. I replied to a comment that's been deleted below about asking someone if they're insane for believing this is a big deal. But, thank you for noticing my intelligence.
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n/a andywarhaul 2017-03-07
Primer
n/a Noxton 2017-03-07
How?
It's definitive proof that the NSA isn't the only one looking at who's doing what. It's definitive proof that the CIA is able to bypass ENCRYPTED CHAT TOOLS. It's definitive proof that the CIA (and other actors) are able to LISTEN TO YOUR TV. It's definitive proof that the CIA sees itself as something bigger and more powerful than the executive branch. IT's definitive proof that the CIA does what it wants when it wants to whom it wants.
But I guess maybe that shit isn't important to you?
n/a AFuckYou 2017-03-07
Not bypass encrypted chat tools, the tools work, it the hacked phones that are the problem. And the software isn't on every phone. Just that they have the capability to infect.
n/a Noxton 2017-03-07
Not just phones, but Windows machines, Apple machines, and the like. It's bigger than just "hacked phones," because they can hack whatever device they want when they want. The only barrier is a reason to do so.
Not sure how that refutes what I said.
n/a Rayfloyd 2017-03-07
Don't forget Smart TVs
n/a nisaaru 2017-03-07
Did you expect anything less?
n/a Noxton 2017-03-07
Not even a little bit less. I expect more.
n/a Glassclose 2017-03-07
You're wrong, Right now, it was revealed that ALL phones are 'hacked' by the CIA.
n/a dissdigg 2017-03-07
Why it's not important: It will change absolutely nothing.
n/a Noxton 2017-03-07
Yes, because the populace has been effectively brainwashed into not looking behind the curtain to see the truths.
You're right. It's over.
n/a dissdigg 2017-03-07
Just give me hot pockets and the next season of Game of Thrones.
n/a Noxton 2017-03-07
Sounds more fun than dismantling the system that's been erected to keep us docile and compliant while the CIA and other government agencies run guns, drugs, and kill people.
n/a nologicjustpathos 2017-03-07
Rhetoric like this is why people don't do anything. You sound like a nutter.
"See the truths..."
Seriously?
People aren't doing anything about it because most people are fighting too hard just to pay rent and buy food. Most of them would likely sign away their freedoms entirely if it won them a steady job, home, and food. People aren't brainwashed. They're desperate and impoverished. Saying anyone that doesn't care as much as you is brainwashed just alienates people.
Learn some tact and a little empathy, and you might find you win more allies.
n/a Noxton 2017-03-07
I never said I was above brainwashing. There are plenty of things that I willfully hide from. There are plenty of things that are hidden from me (and the public at large). I am just as much a zombie as anyone. I have responsibilities that I put before other things.
I was originally being facetious, but it's true. So many people I know just don't care about anything more than finishing their shitty work day so they can get home and watch some good old TV.
You based a lot of judgment off of one simple line of text, and yet you tell me I'm lacking empathy?
We ARE brainwashed. All of us. We're totally submissive to keeping our little corner of the world alive and working.
The problem is, we're routinely being used and exploited for others' hedonistic gains.
Whatever man, I don't care what you think either way, but I'm not looking to attract followers. If I was, I'd use honey, not vinegar.
n/a nologicjustpathos 2017-03-07
And I never said that you said that. Where are you making that up from?
And? So what? You say that like it's necessarily a bad thing. Not everyone wants to fight a revolution.
A single line of text can tell a lot, and it has nothing to do with having or lacking empathy. You're not spinning this around.
Not being aware and not caring are not the same thing. And not caring is not being brainwashed.
So? Just because that bothers you doesn't mean it bothers everyone else. And the fact that they aren't bothered doesn't equate to them being brainwashed. A person saying "I have only one life to live, and I'd rather not spend it on revolutionary causes" is an entirely reasonable way of thinking.
If you're not looking to convince other people, then don't whine that they don't think like you do.
n/a Noxton 2017-03-07
K, thanks, man.
n/a oneinfinitecreator 2017-03-07
It's way too early to say that. It will be interesting to see how both the Trump administration and the international community respond to this... These tools would help to explain a lot of the problems they have faced thus far
n/a DavidBernheart 2017-03-07
Agreed. Also remember, this is just the initial Vault 7 release. There's more coming. This release is mainly laying the groundwork for subsequent leaks. Yesterday, if you told the average person that the CIA has tools to spy on you through your television, record your encrypted Iphone messages, drive your car off of an overpass, and leave fingerprints leading back to Putin, they'd think you're insane. Today it all sounds plausible.
n/a reini_urban 2017-03-07
This is definitely bigger than the shadowbroker leak. And also possibly bigger than the Snoden TAO leaks, technically. (not politically).
wikileaks is sitting not only on the full CIA confluence knowledge base, but also on the full source code. And apparently this stuff had already made the rounds.
n/a sciencesez 2017-03-07
No, I would not ask if you were insane. I'd ask what rock you've been hiding under.
n/a DavidBernheart 2017-03-07
Your reading comprehension needs a little tune-up, Smart Guy.
n/a sciencesez 2017-03-07
Nope. Comprehension checks out just fine. I replied to a comment that's been deleted below about asking someone if they're insane for believing this is a big deal. But, thank you for noticing my intelligence.
n/a DavidBernheart 2017-03-07
Hmmm. This whole thread disappeared for a while. I guess when it returned your comment appeared as a response to mine.
n/a binauralbeatz 2017-03-07
Wikileaks is controlled opposition.
n/a teknomonk 2017-03-07
Only fools
n/a VirulentThoughts 2017-03-07
They're going to call you a shill.
Despite the fact that all the information I have seen so far is pretty much what everyone assumed has been going on since _NSAKEY, wikileaks needs a reputation polish with Assange out of the spotlight.
n/a Burkey 2017-03-07
So everyones "Assumptions" is better than actual proof? Do you see how dumb what you're saying is?
n/a dissdigg 2017-03-07
The only thing this release does it make the general public aware of, and therefore more comfortable with, the fact that they can spy on us. They probably should've already assumed this was happening, as most of us here already do, now they know it's happening, and you know what? Nobody gives a fuck or will do anything to stop them. This is about creating public apathy and therefore acceptance of this activity. Yeah, they're probably owned.
n/a Ninjakick666 2017-03-07
Nope... this stuff is very useful... We've all known what they have been doing... but what we know now is how they are doing it... the ample amounts of documentation are gonna wreck a decade of CIA coding work overnight... all their work just got trashed... these exploits will be patched and the CIA will have to start all over again... Year Zero.
n/a KiA423469420 2017-03-07
This release shows that the Russian narrative was CIA fakery. That's not shit. The infosec community will be buzzing over it. That's not shit, either.
n/a Telenerd 2017-03-07
The infoaec community was well aware of every single attack ve tor mentioned so far.
n/a Pdelic1 2017-03-07
https://i.4cdn.org/pol/1488902524335.jpg
n/a reini_urban 2017-03-07
Anyone else is getting? Your IP or IP range is blocked from accessing 4chan.
I never posted anything on 4chan.
n/a redditeditard 2017-03-07
This is only Part One?
n/a MrNeverwhere 2017-03-07
LoL at the demonizations of agencies who are doing what they are suppose to be doing, finding clever ways to get info and kill people, no different than the military or any other country in history. Get a medal if you can assassinate a hundred people and 5 civilians with a drone, get demonized and the world falls apart if you're a cia computer nerd competing with Russia and China to be the first ones to figure out how to hack a car when every other cyberwarfare equiped gov is doing the exact same thing.
This Wikileaks is designed to further break down American trust in government, the ultimate goal is Russia's unmolested territory expansion
n/a make_mind_free2go 2017-03-07
no, i think this is just the 'tip' of the iceberg. (bracing for crash)
n/a Noxton 2017-03-07
Not even a little bit less. I expect more.
n/a sciencesez 2017-03-07
Nope. Comprehension checks out just fine. I replied to a comment that's been deleted below about asking someone if they're insane for believing this is a big deal. But, thank you for noticing my intelligence.