I don't trust anything related to Wikileaks.

Though frankly I don't really trust much of anything these days.

Just here bc I want a gd flying saucer. Will trade dank weed.

Pretty much this all over. I'm still hoping there's secret Illuminati mantle-deep maglevs for rushing their operatives around the globe. That'd be great. If infrastructure like that exists, it's only a matter of time before they realize they can make more money nixing this crime shit and going legit.

Exactly! "Don't trust anyone" never included "unless they happen to be temporarily aligned against someone you dislike".

Interesting, I happen to have flying saucers. Just give me your credit card info, ssn, and your mothers maiden name and we can get this thing going.

let me go get my popcorn..

Funny I had a similar theory that I chose not to post because I know it would be a waste of time. EVERYTHING that was in this "drop" I and others have known for YEARS. I guess it's new to others, at least they are actually discussing it now. But youre right it's not groundbreaking.

It strikes me as odd that one of the big arguments is "No, see, Russia is good because America does the same stuff they do, which is bad!"

Strange logic. I'm not here to defend the fucking CIA, but are we really going to vilify them with this nothingburger while gleefully ignoring the antics of an old KGB operative toying with elections around the globe? Can we not, I don't know, examine and vilify BOTH?

"nothingburger"

Hillary is that you?

No, but she signs my payc-

OH! You almost got me!

you like "actual evidence"? please provide actual evidence that trump is a russian asset

CNN. check mate LOL

Don Lemon told me so and Don Lemon wouldn't lie

The amount of assumptions you have stated as if they were fact is laughable.

You're saying this seriously as you defend WikiLeaks? Tee hee.

They said nothing about wikileaks. You are jumping the gun.

I don't trust you. How much are they paying?

DTA.

Dude you're not in the middle if you think Assange is a rapist, or that it was the Russians who hacked us...You're far left!!! Is it me or did this post just make it shilly in here?

Right, the narrative fed to you by the 'Left' is nonsense from shills, but the narrative fed to you from the 'Right' is the ONE TRUE TRUTH.

Please clashlight, calling Assange a rapist or a Russian spy is rule number 1 in the shill playbook. You haven't redpilled anyone. You are trying to shove blue pills down our throats.

Mindlessly supporting him is rule number 1 in the shill playbook.

See how easy that is?

Wow, great use of deflection.

When in Rome,

Kek. I heard Davis d Brock bounces checks. Might want to rethink this career of yours.

There are few things that so clearly describe the age, world experience, and mentality of this sub as the dominant "if you disagree, you clearly do so on the internet for a living" mentality.

Okay touché. What do you do for a living?

I believe the entire government is complicate in corruption, pedophilia, and over all shady shit. I am not left or right. If what you say is the case what are we supposed to believe?

From CIA: "We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." it seems to be working...

That there are larger organizations at work here, and it's as foolish to trust Wikileaks/RT/Jones as it is to trust the MSM/CIA/Establishment.

So who do you/we trust with truthful information?

you said exactly what i was thinking when reading his shitpost. His boss is probably David Brock

No, my boss is Hil-

Oh, you. You almost got me.

not "far left" but "establishment center"

we on the true far left have been baying about the CIA/deep state/soft coup et al all along, and tbh are sick and tired of being confused with trump supporters because we don't trust anything that the CIA says and we fear global thermo nuclear more than the asshat in the whitehouse.

I don't trust the CIA; nor do I trust Wikileaks, Assange, or Russian psyops.

I know, I know, such a shill move!

Judging by some of the current submissions in New, it looks like the new ShareBlue script just came in.

Look at OP's history. LOL.

Pardon me for being disinclined to have a bunch of T_D nimrods pissing all over my real account for weeks because I redpilled them.

Where are the red pills? All I see in this thread is regurgitated talking points from CNN and David Brock.

All I see in this sub are regurgitated talking points from Infowars and RT.

See how easy that is?

Infowars and RT had a been track record of accuracy in 2016 than CNN.

Wrong.

It doesn't really work that way, you know.

Yeah they're known to be a reasonable lot who never engage in that sort of behavior.

Well he probably only got hired at Shareblue 4 days ago

As if. Soros personally pays everyone who disagrees with the T_D swarm, didn't you know? In cash, too, so I don't have to declare it!

This appears to be the answer to the question "How are the shills going to deal with this"?

They are directly attacking wikileaks and it's supporters .. Not just by seeding doubt but also trying to label us all as Trump supporters and Russian sympathizers.

That's a horrible tactic. These guys need to go back to spy school.

"The shills are going to fight us by calling us all shills, because they're shills!"

-person on internet with zero sense of self-awareness.

Says the guy telling everyone they are Trump supporters for reading about CIA hacking.

OP is a 4 day-old account with zero comment karma.

Pardon me for being disinclined to have a bunch of T_D nimrods pissing all over my real account for weeks because I redpilled them.

what is this "redpill" you speak of? can i see said redpill?

I don't imagine you can, no.

I have never seen you around here before . Are you sure you're in the right sub ?

I'm looking for people interested in the truth, so probably not.

Well , you know where the door is , don't let the door hit ya where the good lord split ya on your way out

Cowardice is unbecoming the conspiracy community.

so are 5 day old accounts spewing nonsense

I can't imagine why someone would make a fresh account before daring to speak against the T_D swarm.

Always interested in the truth, what do you have?

As much shit as you talk clashlight, I'm kinda surprised that you are willing to go online knowing how easy it is to dox someone's personal info. You showed how easily it is to just create a fake account so you don't have to deal with negative karma from pissed of T_D subscribers. How easy it would be to create a throw away account to dox a (redacted) y/o living in (redacted) being paid (redacted) yet still trying to live and act like a boss despite how shitty your life really is.

The emails begin the evidence trail themselves given wikileaks impeccable accuracy rate.

However, your post is significantly lacking in evidence. And, since you asked, politics is the forum you're looking for.

"impeccable accuracy rate"

Show me a single ounce of evidence that ANYTHING Wikileaks has leaked has been falsified. Go ahead, we're waiting.

You don't prove negatives, you prove assertions. You know, like all those assertions wikileaks has made on behalf of Vlad and never, ever supported or been proven right about.

Chelsea Manning went to jail over the video she leaked to WikiLeaks.

DNC employees lost their jobs over the content revealed in the DNC emails.

Stop claiming that content from WikiLeaks was "never, ever supported or been proven right about." This is blatantly wrong.

Thank you for posting this, OP. It gives us a window into the cognitive dissonance that were up against here.

you lost me at the rapist part. You buy that MSM line?

So let's get this straight:

posts a bunch of lies

Shillin' like villian. You obviously know nothing about Assange, wikileaks, or really the US government ... OR you are one of those little CIA nerd programmer contractors that contributed to the internal CIA wiki I've enjoyed reading today and don't want to lose your project.

The CIA is definitely paying me to change the narrative by throwing cold water on a circlejerk on some subreddit, yes.

Or, sometimes people will disagree with you without being paid by someone to do so. This is a silly concept, I know.

Companies are paid by the CIA and the employees are paid by their company. I doubt there are solo contractors out there directly paid by the CIA for astroturfing.

You don't seem competent enough to be a solo paid contractor. You probably would be some entry level prole at a government contracting firm, if at all.

I really enjoy the mental image of vast levels of bureaucracy all distilled down to some guy in a cubicle with chin in hand arguing with nimrods like you on a meaningless subreddit. Meanwhile, the boogeyman du-jour that you've been told to fear/hate cackles in his golden office.

Am I a nimrod due to your fabricated world view or due to this small bit of conversational banter?

I know it seems really funny to you. Imagine how the rest of us feel that you've decided to talk to us. Most "normies" come here because they think we are easy targets to bully. What it really comes down to is their low self esteem and desire to feel superior to something besides single cell organisms.

So I'm not going to berate you as your self image is most likely already irreparable.

Mostly due to your lack of intelligence, experience, and rationality.

So let me get this straight: I came here to "bully" you, you being the swarm of T_D kids who gang up on any dissenting voice 30-to-one and label anyone who disagrees with you as a mindless shill?

By all means, attack me personally if that's where you need to go. I know you don't have any facts or integrity to rely on.

See, that's the joke.

You do have a fabricated reality. I've nothing to do with Trump or T_D. But don't let that stop you from dressing me up as your personal whore to berate.

Smoochies.

Oh, that's not the joke.

I've definitely been laughing. Maybe you should re-evaluate this conversation.

I suggest you re-evaluate more than just these few examples of me posterizing you. Have a good night.

Dream of me.

Do you have a man bun? Nothing against them, just curious

gotta be quicker than that

Neat. Love to see your proof of Assange being a rapist. God damn. Why are you so fucking dumb?

The Middle? middle of Hillary's ass cheeks? Middle of your shift at ShartBlue?

There is no actual evidence contained in anything this website has released.

That's factually untrue. You should read more before you decide to form an incorrect opinion.

What is it that your beloved Russian asset likes to say? "Wrong."

Isn't that cute.

Okay touché. What do you do for a living?

Wikileaks has a perfect record. The leaks were interesting and confirm a lot of conspiracies. But its stupid to try and make this a whole CIA evil thing. Every top agency in the world uses these tactics. Are they supposed to just sit back while China and Russia are also leaving exploits in product software to control the masses? People cannot be stupid enough to actually think that the US is the only guilty party in this.

Just like we had a bioterrorism cold war, a nuclear cold war, so to will we have a cyberwar. It's inevitable and trying to moralize the position of the CIA is beyond idiotic. They'd be stupid not to compete.

My main question with these leaks is why release this now. The timing is super suspect. What are we being distracted from.

I agree with you on just about everything, but I'm nowhere near agreeing with wikileaks having a "perfect" record.

The timing thing, though, that I agree with. There's a flurry of shit happening across the globe and it was nigh-impossible to follow already, now we have this cluttering every real-news/conspiracy channel with "HEY GUYS THE CIA SPIES ON PEOPLE".

So where should we be looking? If our attention is diverted by this then what are we being diverted from?

That's a very good pair of questions, and probably what this sub should be focused on instead of a front page that's 99% Vault7 nonsense.

I like it. I think you're spot on. Go ahead and take me to the end game now. Are we going to start building gulags in Montana or do you think we'll be replacing Michelle's nutrition guidelines with vodka first?

I think we'll just be on of a long chain of destabilized western democracies that suddenly don't have the inclination/ability to stop a certain country from acquiring a few new territories.

Are we talking about places where they have lots of Russians or Finland? Finland would be pretty entertaining honestly.

Why not both?

I also think they're a little spooked by China and were worried by Germany's increasing power over the EU.

And how do you think the reaction will look when Russian decides Finland oil is rightfully theirs?

The EU's power is anything but increasing.

That's why I said they were concerned; I don't think the EU is particularly troublesome to anyone but the EU right now. I won't discount them pulling a 180, but for the time being they're off the board.

I think Russia has proved and is proving that their psyops are extremely effective. Should they get hungry for Finland, I doubt it would start with a column of tanks. There'd be a false flag or two, some wikileaks stuff, and a massive amount of deflection and distraction smokescreening it. They'd probably try to destabilize them from within for a while first(maybe they already are?) too.

I don't think they'll try for that, at least not for some time - but I bet there are some plans drawn up somewhere. Their efficacy at playing most of the globe is, objectively, really impressive and may have even surprised them. Who knows where that will push them.

So what's the first milestone of your theory? At which point will you happily know you outsmarted the lame opinion of a bunch of Internet losers? How about the opposite? Is there an event that could cause you to change your perspective?

I'm not in this to "win", and I'm not looking for validation or vindication. The conspiracy community is one of the final lines of defense for real, raw truth unimpeded by partisan politics and the like.

My theory that Russia has been toying with the western world to destabilize them seems flushed out by the recent American election, no?

I can't tell you at what time I'll go "you know what, Alex Jones, Assange, and all the rest were right-on after all!". If that's where things take me, that's where they take me. This is bigger than being worried about who eats crow or who gets to be smug.

This is bigger than being worried about who eats crow or who gets to be smug.

I agree and perhaps I could have phrased it better. What is the first milestone that will indicate to you that you're really on the right path? Is there any particular thing that might turn you off the Trump=Russia path?

I certainly welcome any new evidence/leaks on Trump+Russia. The well has been dry, and for a lot of us, it looks pretty desperate. I'm looking at it through the same lens as any injustice that involves humans fucking over other humans.

This means that sources can't name 'unnamed' and all compiled with authors that display various levels of mental illness due to perceived injustices but not a whole lot of facts.

There is a whole lot of evidence for internal destabilization though.

Weakening of western democracies or a trend in them toward isolationism/nationalism. That already seems to be underway, no? I think the smattering of dead Russian dignitaries is worth looking into, too. There's been a lot of smoke there for a long time - so while I'm not particularly taken by the recent flurry of media/political attention to it, I think there's blood in the water from SOMETHING.

If I saw Trump do something that either directly or indirectly stymied Russian interests, I'd certainly take note. If wikileaks published something harmful to that side, I'd take note(but wouldn't believe it instantly any more than I believe this Vault7 stuff instantly). My point isn't "no, no, the CIA and pals are really good guys and it's the OTHER guys who are bad", it's "they're all bad and even if there may be a factional struggle happening, they're all still enemies of free people".

It's a limited hangout. Assange would obviously never be allowed to feature in the media, if he were not totally controlled.

And yes, RussiaToday is indeed part of the mainstream media...

Thanks for being willing to debunk the 'Assange is genuine opposition' narrative.

As for your comments about Putin, the rabbit hole goes deeper. The original Putin was a resister, but he was killed and replaced in 2010.

Wikileaks are leading us like cattle to the slaughterhouse. Ales Jones is a shill (as shown by his association with Trump) but at least he acknowledges the global genocide agenda.

Assange would have you believe that the only purpose of the elite is to simply control elections and spy on people. Why would they even need to spy on us? It's not as if we pose any threat...

See, this I like. I never heard the bit about Putin being replaced. I'll do some digging into that, thanks.

There should be no bigger warning bell than when some person or group targets "the left" or "the right" as a whole yet never targets the other side. This is pure textbook control, and it kills me to see the conspiracy theorist community fall for it so easily.

Yeah, Hillary and the CIA and friends are a real big problem up to no end of spooky stuff. But how in the world can anyone believe that, label themselves a 'truther', and then straight-faced defend people like Assange or Trump?

It's sad. At the end of the day people just want someone to entertain them and/or lead them.

I don't really see any distinction between 'truthers' and 'normal people'. Normal people follow the mainstream media and truthers follow the alternative media. Both controlled by the illuminati.

If you want to learn more about Putin's death then this blog by Matt Marriott is a great starting point.

Vladimir Putin and family murdered and replaced by impostors

The role of Assange is to distract from what Matt Marriott refers to as the Big Bang, the final act of Illuminati theater...

Yeah, I've always gotten a chuckle out of the idea that something like WikiLeaks or Infowars, despite being extremely public and 'disruptive', would somehow be immune to being compromised.

The logic never matches up. "The bad guys kill anyone who exposes the truth! Except uh, not Alex Jones or Assange because um, mumblemumblesomethingsomething"

Manufactured combat among the 'truther' community is probably even easier than among 'normal' people. Most people that these guys would call 'normies' don't exactly trust the media either, and tend to vote/side based on gut instincts and feelings. This crowd? They roll over for whomever is yelling at them the loudest.

And yeah I'm definitely interested, I'll start reading up on that now. Thank you!

Matt Marriott has over 100 articles, dating back to 1999. He covers all the usual topics, including a general overview of who the Illuminati actually are, and why they do what they do.

Young-Kyoon, a user here and follower of his, has compiled an encyclopaedia of his works.

The conspiracy movement is smaller than most are willing to admit. Video games are a niche hobby, yet the online gaming community is easily 100 times larger than the so-called truthers...

Manufactured combat among the 'truther' community is probably even easier than among 'normal' people.

Yes. Their best tool to achieve this is to stifle independent theories by saying 'this idea discredits the truth movement' and to give the impression that their are hundreds of shills commenting/voting in forums like this.

I've heard the name before; clearly I should probably have read him a little more thoroughly.

You've really restored some faith for me; this is just the sort of thing I was hoping to find.

And I agree; the sudden way in which this forum took a blatant 'side' and began to march in lockstep should absolutely terrify people. If places like this become compromised(or simply muddled into irrelevance) than where the hell can we congregate?

And I agree; the sudden way in which this forum took a blatant 'side' and began to march in lockstep should absolutely terrify people.

It's just a natural aspect of human nature, we find safety in the crowd. It's the reason why the elitists force us into cities and group events, so that we can be trained to associate conformity with harmony.

If you are interested in the more sciencey kind of conspiracies, then Aaron Dover's channel is a great place to start.

Thanks again for this post, it's good to see that some people have not lost their capability for reasoning.

Will do! Thanks for being a light in the murk.

4 day old account, lmao. Go back to watching CNN

Attack the account age because you can't refute the assertion. Go back to T_D.

im one of the left leaning users on this sub, and even if i think trump isn't the godsend a lot of people on this sub are making him out to be(i voted jill...refused to vote for 'the lesser of two evils') the information is important.. yeah, it might be biased.. but still important.

Donna Brazile was fired over Wikileaks, and your beloved Hillary lost the presidential election, that not real enough for you?

"impeccable accuracy rate"

No, but she signs my payc-

OH! You almost got me!

There are few things that so clearly describe the age, world experience, and mentality of this sub as the dominant "if you disagree, you clearly do so on the internet for a living" mentality.

Yeah, I've always gotten a chuckle out of the idea that something like WikiLeaks or Infowars, despite being extremely public and 'disruptive', would somehow be immune to being compromised.

The logic never matches up. "The bad guys kill anyone who exposes the truth! Except uh, not Alex Jones or Assange because um, mumblemumblesomethingsomething"

Manufactured combat among the 'truther' community is probably even easier than among 'normal' people. Most people that these guys would call 'normies' don't exactly trust the media either, and tend to vote/side based on gut instincts and feelings. This crowd? They roll over for whomever is yelling at them the loudest.

And yeah I'm definitely interested, I'll start reading up on that now. Thank you!

That's a very good pair of questions, and probably what this sub should be focused on instead of a front page that's 99% Vault7 nonsense.

So who do you/we trust with truthful information?