Religion?
1 2017-03-08 by INTELDracula
During my time of learning conspiracy and enlightening myself I have learned that most religion is to control us. I use to be a Christian and now I'm not sure what to believe about religion. What's your opinion or theory on how we were created, if there a God, and what happens after death. I am very curious about you guys opinion so I can research the information you provide me.
37 comments
n/a groac 2017-03-08
Of course they are fakes.
n/a HashtagDadJoke 2017-03-08
I find that probably 95% of atheists have not seriously considered the arguments that theists are making, and talk down their noses out of an extreme sense of pride at their own pseudo-intellectualism.
Try reading Plato, Aristotle, and Aquinas' defenses of the existence of God. Most atheists aren't even familiar with BASIC philosophy of religion such as this.
n/a groac 2017-03-08
We speak about religions why do you bring God in it????
n/a HashtagDadJoke 2017-03-08
Because he exists. And therefore religious thought is not worthless, even if most of the institutions are.
n/a Rockran 2017-03-08
Natural evolution
Negative
The same thing that happens before conception - Nothing.
n/a HashtagDadJoke 2017-03-08
And yet, here you are, a being with consciousness that can't be explained by chemical processes.
Why do thoughts pop into your head? Why do you dream? Why do humans engage in art and philosophy, something that monkeys don't do at all?
n/a Rockran 2017-03-08
Why not?
Animals - Not just monkeys, have dreams and are capable of engaging in complex thought.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cbSu2PXOTOc
n/a Balthanos 2017-03-08
I upvoted you for sharing your opinion.
n/a sciototrails 2017-03-08
Religion is the ancient understanding of nature. Science is the modern understanding of nature. Nature is best described with mathematics. Religion is your relationship with the universe. It is how you interpret it and interact with it. Nature is the existence we all share here in this universe no matter how we relate to it.
n/a Rockran 2017-03-08
I don't think saying that the Earth was made in 7 days is an understanding of anything.
n/a Ninjakick666 2017-03-08
Maaaaybe the Earth was spinning waaaaay slower back then... so a day could have been the equivalent of millenia.
n/a Rockran 2017-03-08
Then what made it speed up so much?
n/a Ninjakick666 2017-03-08
Got hit by a glancing blow from a large speeding comet!
n/a Rockran 2017-03-08
Where is the physical evidence of this impact?
n/a Ninjakick666 2017-03-08
Dude... it happened back before dinosaurs... there no impact proof left... but the moon is a chunk of the comet that broke off and didn't escape our gravity. Took a long time for both of us to turn round again.
n/a Rockran 2017-03-08
An impact capable of speeding up the day from a million years to a single day would leave an impression.
Don't you think?
n/a Ninjakick666 2017-03-08
Oh it did leave an impression... but that was like a billions of years ago... and Earth was still soft and goopy under the surface... so we kinda formed back into a sphere after a really really long time... but we aren't nearly as large as we used to be... we lost a good chunk of us that is hurtling thru the universe as bits of debris to this day... damn it must be so far away by now.
n/a Rockran 2017-03-08
Which religious text are you following? Because this can't be the Bible.
n/a Ninjakick666 2017-03-08
Well duh... 95% of the Bible isn't real.
n/a Rockran 2017-03-08
So what are you basing your arguments off of?
Imagination?
n/a Ninjakick666 2017-03-08
Yeah... Imagination... and some documentary that I don't really remember very well... but mostly my imagination.
n/a Rockran 2017-03-08
Well then thanks for letting me know I should ignore you henceforth.
n/a Ninjakick666 2017-03-08
What did you expect... you come in here saying the Bible isn't real... well no duh... it's obviously a storybook... historical fiction at best... might as well have some fun with it. Shoot off some theories... just enjoy it. Got any other obvious Bible falsehoods I can attempt to debunk with "speculative science" aka "imagination"?
n/a Rockran 2017-03-08
You came in here saying that maybe the earth was spinning slower waaaaaay back then.
How about you substantiate your claim?
n/a Ninjakick666 2017-03-08
I said "Maaaaaaybe"... Thats a big "maybe" if you didn't notice. It obviously wasn't spinning the exact same speed it is now... so it was either spinning slower or faster... or not spinning at all! 50/50 chance... pretty good odds.
We're on /r/conspiracy/ if you didn't notice... shit doesn't need to be true for people to say it... I'll forgive you though... your probably new here if yer posting "Zomg! The stuff in the Bible didn't really happen!"
n/a Rockran 2017-03-08
No.
This isn't a sub for spouting nonsense. You will get slapped with the hand of truth here.
n/a Ninjakick666 2017-03-08
https://spaceplace.nasa.gov/review/dr-marc-earth/earth-rotation.html
n/a Rockran 2017-03-08
Right, but that's seperate to what you were proposing.
n/a Ninjakick666 2017-03-08
When am I gonna get slapped? Do you know a guy that is gonna do it?
n/a sciototrails 2017-03-08
Right, at the time some religious texts were written we did not understand the universe we live in as well as we do now. Sorry I did not state that better.
n/a KiA423469420 2017-03-08
I don't know about death, but it seems pretty clear that only the chaos paths have anything to offer in terms of individual empowerment. Satanists get at least that much right - they're on one of the chaos paths.
n/a HashtagDadJoke 2017-03-08
I prefer Eris if we're doing the chaos deity thing, but to each his own.
n/a KiA423469420 2017-03-08
Same. The doctrinal mandate to heresy really made me think.
n/a Ninjakick666 2017-03-08
God made man... But he used the monkey to do it
Apes in the plan... We're all here to prove it
I can walk like an ape... Talk like an ape... Do what monkey do
God made man... But a monkey supplied the glue
n/a HashtagDadJoke 2017-03-08
Religion? Bad.
But Christianity is true. There's a ton of intentional misinformation piled on top to confuse everyone, which is why we celebrate the birth of the nature god on winter solstice.
But if you read the actual Bible on its own, and take the time to understand it in its historical context, it's a profound book.
Proverbs is a good place to go to take a fresh look.
n/a krulos 2017-03-08
Anyone that tells you they know the answer to these questions is full of it.
n/a Alien323 2017-03-08
I'm with you on that. I used to be a Christian and all it did was set boundaries for my freedom of thought and bring trauma. If anything, my "beliefs" are eclectic- I'll believe it when I see it, so the things I have witnessed and have made an impact on myself, no matter which religion, have shaped my mindset. But I've felt the most free because there's zero rules or regulations getting rid of the church. The Christian church ruined my childhood and it's destroying my family before my eyes, so yeah it's not for me.
n/a g76nyc 2017-03-08
You're asking one of the most important questions you may ever contemplate.
I believe there are Universal and Spiritual Laws that apply to all beings throughout the cosmayas. Our body/vessel is temporary but our consciousness is eternal. Reincarnation is real. Most of us have temporal amnesia when we reincarnate. The purpose of which is for us to have an easier time learning new lessons, with the goal of spiritual ascension.
Universal and Spiritual Laws:
Universal Law of Nature Universal Law of Symmetry Universal Law of Light, Sound & Vibration Universal Law of Movements and Balance Universal Law of Innocence, Truth & Family Universal Law of Change Universal Law of Life Universal Law of Perception Universal Law of Free Will Universal Law of Judgement Universal Law of Unification & Unity Universal Law of Love
Spiritual Strength of Health & Happiness Spiritual Law of Man Spiritual Law of Equality Spiritual Freedom of Man Spiritual Law of Choice Spiritual Law of Karma Spiritual Growth of Man Spiritual Law of Healing Spiritual Law of Protection Spiritual Protection of Family Spiritual Law of Future Sight
There is an ultimate creator.
Om Shanti /|\
Peace to you, and all physical and metaphysical beings in the Universe.
May all your Positive Wishes and Intentions come True and may your Sentient Awareness bring you Magical Life Experiences every day! πππβ¨π«πππΌπ
Namaste Satori, KenshΕ, Daigo Eternal Emissary of Light
n/a alieninception25 2017-03-08
im agnostic use to be christian but i think alot of religion stems from alien contact im serious i mean how would people have reacted to it back in the day hell ask yourself how people would react to it today lol and we are alot smarter than our ancestors so yeah now what happens when we die well i honestly dont know but if a loving God does exist hell doesnt exist i mean think about it
n/a HashtagDadJoke 2017-03-08
I find that probably 95% of atheists have not seriously considered the arguments that theists are making, and talk down their noses out of an extreme sense of pride at their own pseudo-intellectualism.
Try reading Plato, Aristotle, and Aquinas' defenses of the existence of God. Most atheists aren't even familiar with BASIC philosophy of religion such as this.