I think you are right. There is more to this than just our government being jerks. This effects everyone in the world that uses these products.

The EFFECTS will AFFECT everyone.

That's quite an effective way to get the message across.

FX effects affect my affect.

I'm seriously considering ditching all "smart" tech. I'd still have a computer but that'd be it. Dumb tv, dumb fridge, dumb vacuum, dumb electric meter, dumb phone, dumb car, navigate using maps. It's all more trouble than it's worth. Is life now any easier than in the early 2000s? I feel like I'm constantly fighting to sync everything. It never works right. Looking at how all this came about so suddenly I'm beginning to wonder how organic it was. It seems possible that it's all part of a vast control grid they've be incrementally implementing. Sort of already knew all this tho. Hopefully there'll be something new in future leaks.

Whatever is going on it's clearly not about fighting terrorism.

sucks that these assholes have to get in the way of progress and QoL improvement just because they want to play global police cops

That's why we can't have nice things.

I already have a dumb everything except a smart phone. And I just got a smart phone a year ago. Nothing wrong with the simple life, I prefer it actually.

Yes, all US software are suspect at this point. Unfortunately.

And while we're talking about utility/productivity applications, it is quite possible that games are used to spy as well. Not everyone uses say, MS office at home, but games? Hell, after a hard day's work. You bet.

If anything they probably mine the shit out of your gaming profile. Especially in the RPG realm where, in some major titles, youre given the option between good and evil.

I used to play knight online where you could choose between humans or orcs

The humans were always conformist fags who had strict clans, and the orcs were mostly turkish and english players just playing to fuck around.

It would be interesting if the intelligence communities look into this.

Yeah, let no good data go to waste.

And when you choose good you're marked down as a dissenter.

Let's not forget your upvote/downvote histories on Reddit, etc. Think of thousands of little opinions adding up to a nice little profile they have on you now.

They probably have it as data and can be pulled up if you become a obstruction. But to think they have profiles on all of use they use and see from time to time is pretending that is pebs are individually important.

It's mostly for advertisers, probably. We let them know exactly what we like and dislike, to serve us relevant ads. Likes/upvoting serves no other purpose in my mind, and I wish platforms would do away with it. I don't think I should see comments based on popularilty contests, and I always, always expand posts under the threshold (I wonder if that can be automated?).

As for law enforcement, NSA, DHS, et al, I certainly believe "liking" behavior is tracked, because suspicious liking/voting activity could tip them off, it's like the Thought Police, or even Minority Report stuff. Reddit, facebook, they are all complicit giving it all up, otherwise they smile snd shrug when handed those NSLs.

i disagree. each real user is a coherent set of data. The more reliable sets of data you can feed into your predictive analysis algorithm, the smarter and more accurate it will be.

If they can then seed false information into the population and track the spread and effectiveness of it, and tailor the arguments down to the community, or down to the individual... we're talking mass mind control. MSM basically already does it, but as we're seeing, the internet is a disruptive force to the propagandists. If they could develop a tool that was everywhere in social media, it would be extremely useful to them. They're not going to have an actual person assigned to some random redditor. There's super computers learning how people talk and think and spread ideas.

(at least I would assume that's the case)

Good point about super computers. We as a nation applaud and cheer when new super computers are built and shown off because SCIENCE!, yet these are the very machines that are helping TPTB mind fuck us into submission.

/u/AngelComa/upvoted will show you everything you have ever upvoted...

You can only access your own profile to view your personal history, but I'm sure a user with the right permissions can view it.

they do, but its all automated algorithmically, so it doesn't take extra work to do it microscopically for every person

Yup. Between Gmail, YouTube, Netflix and Reddit the govt knows about 95% of my infotainment consumption and opinions/hobbies. At least I haven't had Facebook for a few years...

That just means you're more suspicious to them.

Meh

Why? It's a waste. Gaming decisions are like real life decisions at all. I do stuff in games that I would never do in real life because it's fake.

True

I'd also be curious if anyone did some auditing on the Linux side too. Would be curious to see the top 10 popular distros as they download, and how they compare to compiled versions with source code that's been thoroughly examined. Also do comparison with different download source maintainers, just to see if there's any odd stuff going on.

Of course even if OS is clean in it's starting state, once you run updates and install anything or adding packages, there's a chance that device security could go out the window.

They have backdoors into the hardware according to Snowden.

Hardware still needs certain software hooks to do certain things. If the MBR or some other stuff is different, it's going to hang or not act as expected. (Firmware may pass the command, but the software wont respond to it.) However for purposes of keylogging or passing some other rudimentary data back, I could see that definitely happening.

once you run updates

From the repository that is maintained by your distribution of choice

install anything or adding packages

Usually the same, most software is handled through a package manager. Sometimes you get a non-official Tarball / package but usually they are directly maintained by the software developers in that case.

But considering that everything on GNU/Linux is OSS combined with the fact that the Vault 7 leak confirmed many 0-day Exploits being hoarded, I'm sure there are some various GNU/Linux exploits.

They could hold this stuff for years until it needs to be used, or use an exploit sparingly on certain target machines which could go undetected for years... See this article.

So many mirrors though. I could see a few being subject to tampering. If there were anybody up to something, that's where it may show up.

Not to mention all the accounting software which, like Office 365, automatically tracks data to the cloud. Hard to use Quickbooks and embezzle/launder money these days. Gotta go old school for that shizzle

Who's to say these companies have a choice though? The agency is very powerful.

who doesn't like some good'ole mutual back-scratching?

Kinect? Has a camera always on. Or whatever he PlayStation version of it is

No I don't feel so lonely and pathetic for having such a high percentage in Freecell.

CIA: It's not that high.

http://i.imgur.com/96xqY2z.jpg

OMG so the sentinels in No Man's Sky are the CIA??? I knew it!!!

They removed battery access to it too so you cannot completely confirm that it is turned off without unscrewing the device. I have been saying this since 2012.

All major tech companies are in on it.

Well, they are funded by the CIA to the large extent and they are not allowed to continue operating unless they comply with NSL. Digital canaries are also criminalized.

Is NSL an abbreviation for National Security Letter? The companies that play ball get the hook up. The ones that have things like ethics dont survive.

Yes.

Reddit lost their canary awhile back. Hi CIA!

Hi CIA

Hey, wut up? Are you still beating your wife?

Oh, nevermind. That was Chad.

Hey Space Cowboy!

Oh, hey Maurice.

Only sometimes, Gangster of Love.

Only sometimes, Gangster of Love.

Software development is a pain and random vulnerabilities happen all the time anyway. They're not rushing to add backdoors. That said, various TLA's do lean on tech companies and some give in more easily than others (MicroSoft).

Software development is hard, but exploiting software in a meaningful way is even harder. It's one thing to get Internet Explorer to crash; that's miles away from turning a crash into an exploit that can be used.

Not all. There are a lot of good guys out there. I work for a major security company and we do crazy shit out of patriotic duty on a regular basis.

You're correct on that.

That is fantastic. My concern is when the establishment considers people like your to be the enemy.

Crazy shit like giving up exploits for the CIA?

They already know 0 days for all the major operating systems. It doesn't even matter if the tech companies are in on it. If you want to be secure you need to build your own new operating system on your own hardware.

Its still a raw deal. People give away a lot for mere convenience.

I think things will change. We need more operating systems, more cryptography, more networks, all researched independently. It will be harder to play our favorite video games but we can gain security. If people wanted to they could make it very very difficult for agencies to hack them, but that isn't going to happen so long as people all use just 3 operating systems.

build your own new operating system

Also some things to consider:

1) Linux and Unix are likely exploitable, so good luck making your own kernel

2) If you make your OS, it could possibly be less secure, and will likely still be possible to break into if they wanted

3) Also since it's your own OS, there is no programs that exist for it. Even if you can port them somehow, good luck with there being no exploits in them. I'd sandbox everything if possible and limit their Internet connectivity.

4) (U)EFI aand BIOS are also weak points.

I am not trying to imply at all it would be easy. If you made your own OS it would def have vulnerabilities but they would not necessarily be known, and unless you are already a suspect they probably are not going to spend time researching one guy's random operating system for vulnerabilities.

Yeah. It would be easier to exploit, but at least you know they weren't any backdoors and they were 0days.

Plus if they bother to hack your OS, you've must have really pissed off the government.

Can we talk about how these products are all assembled int China

That is also an issue. Software can be hacked but if you've got security issues literally built into you hardware youre going to have a bad time.

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/16/us/politics/china-phones-software-security.html

Like this? I guess in China it's normal to have these back doors but these certain phones were sent to US and all sorts of data was being collected.

What's scares me is my electronic harassment (like DEW torture) followed me from US to Iran, and there's a lot of 'gangstalkers' here as well :/

What is the belief on that? Do you believe your phone is being used as a medium to expose you to higher levels of radiation? Or is it a type subtle frequency?

I'm not 100% certain how the tech works, I think it's not through phones but WiFi and satellites. And covertly implanted chips or maybe even nano particles from chemtrails to direct where the technology is used, there's like an electronic control grid with waves around earth controlled by an artificial intelligence. It monitors my body 24/7 and uses different technologies when I'm doing certain things, like it'll wait till I'm having a hard time to stack harassment types...

I'm almost certain I was covertly implanted, I had my brain and heart targeted severely once, I have a scar between my eyebrows that I don't know where it came from and a few years ago I heard someone in my room and they used a device near my head made me hear loud digital tones, I think they were activating my chip.

Damn, that sounds like a nightmare. Hopefully some light gets shed on all the nefarious shit that goes on.

When the owners and Boards of Directors of these companies are approached by some of the masterminds behind the security state apparatus and told what is wanted of them and that they will quietly reimbursed by the government itself through the contracts they are getting or will be getting or won't ever be getting if they don't comply, how do you think they'd respond?

That's a good point. I would even go as far as to say some of these tech guys, when they reach a certain level of influence, are introduced into a grander scheme for civilization that's been in the works. Bill Gates is always droning on about vaccines and shit like that. They get exposed to these larger ideas through groups like bilderberg and others.

I target tech because they are the upjumps of the era, they're the "new money," where oil, lumber, banking, and others represent the "old money."

Hi yes. I've been here for over a year.

https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/47igd0/i_believe_apple_when_they_say_theyre_not_going_to/

Yup...

A lot of redditors quote GC and it's a good quote but I always think about MJ singing "all I want to say is that they don't really care about us".

That's the key. That's the one revelation that all the blue pilled mfers need to accept. How would you do things differently, who would you support, what change would you want, if you knew and acted upon this simple truth:

They don't care about us.

This is where a lot of their start up capital comes from. I don't trust any of them.

Think globally. The Samsung corporation offices were raided as part of an investigation into public corporation for Samsung providing 2.8 million euros ($3.1 million) to a company co-owned by the mysterious unelected advisor Choi Soon-si. Coincidentally, Samsung TVs are exploited by ICs as part of project weeping angel. This is potentially a very unethical case of backscratching between two very large and powerful entities and is very troubling.

Don't forget that Samsung has a weapons division. I think they even do tanks. I doubt their TVs are simply "exploited," surely they're voluntarily letting their customers be exploited.

Surprised they chose Samsung, a company that wouldn't even be able to make a mousetrap correctly.

Shows how smart they are.

The ones that don't play ball have poor endings. You could be rich and famous or you could end up in prison like the qualcomm guy.

Any of you heard of a company called PTech.

http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/012005_ptech_pt1.shtml

http://fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/012705_ptech_pt2.shtml

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LIUgxMC8PwM

The YouTube video is from Corbett Report and it talks of this company and its major role in 9/11. Very good bit of info.

I'm not absolving anyone, and I don't trust these companies one bit, but I also remember how the NSA worked these guys into cooperating in the past by showing them some scary stuff, alleging foreign threats, and then requesting backdoors, etc.

Are there any companies that are free of all this spying shit?.. My fridge sure as hell doesn't have a screen or a microphone on it (which I think is ridiculous to buy in the first place).. And my older Samsung tv (semi smart tv, no voice command capabilities) is nearing its end and may need to be replaced in the next year or so.. Where does a person go to get a basic ass, quality Tv that isn't recording you and the woman banging on the couch?..

I don't get why wikileaks would even allow that poll to share the leaks with tech companies. Assange knows first hand what google is. He already learned that lesson like 6 years ago.

is not*

With all the talk of spying through video games... I personally challenge John Brennan to a Pokebattle. I EV and IV train, but... I guess he already knew that...

We all fucking data sheep and the big tech companies are making BILLIONS culling the herd!

Remember the big "tech meeting" Obama had with the big tech boys a month after Snowden revealed PRISM and other surveillance programs that required their participation. That meeting was all about mitigating these companies legal exposure and creating a new false narrative that allowed them to claim no or very limited knowledge.

People need to realize that this is much more than just spying, it is creating business and a future of dependency for these corporations. Just look at the evolution of these technologies throughout the years, the average person cannot go a single day without using a smart phone, gps, google, some type of purchasing app, a food app, even transportation apps. Literally everything we do is made easier and more convenient, but with this convenience we are also becoming dependent. People will not want to go back to being self reliant after this. Read a map? no way, use an encyclopedia? no way. Drive without a link to my phone? no way. We literally don't even need to leave our homes anymore, we can do everything online. Work, shop, interact, etc. It is about developing a need for people to be linked, it is about removing the human control and evolving people into something that is inseparable from this technology.

I think you're giving the government too much credit

Think about military software

wouldn't it be crazy to find out that the software they used to create terrorist profiles is the same software we use on facebook

The only company I would give some credit too is Microsoft who released the new Geneva Convention for software statement. They at least seem interested in fixing exploits and prevention.

they might just be trying to get a head of the negative PR whiplash.

A club of literal satanists.

This shouldn't be shocking...

Your social networkindg and digital data are all filtered through the nsa.

There is likely a point system with several areas of modulation all conducted manually by an advanced filtering algorithm. Look up sleeping pills, depression, and suicide... Might find a rewarding 100.00 gift card in the. Mail. Look up anarchy cookbook and various nefarious topics such as rambo and guns and ammunition, maybe catch a tail...

The point is that the data is all being filtered. Like it or not, ever since the www went global they have been implimenting baby sitting program launguage. These algorithms sift through every keylogger on your machine and deposit all keystrokes to the data centers for mass storage.
They are building digital fingerprints, (not to catch you in real time) but to have control of national security. So in the event an attack occurs that they can backtrack the root elements attempting to find a culprit. Or even better use the filtering system to stop attacks in real time...

Grocery store purchases tell them who is buying ziplock baggies and cold medicine in masse. They know who is buying which medications and abusing the medical systems. The point is to catch the wirst of the worst, not to be condused with all criminals. I don't think there is a single marijuana growhouse that can't be detected by satellite by example. (let alone flir)-

Any criminal dumb enough to not take basic precautions to concealing their crimes is an idiot- period.

They know who is peddling pot or abusing meth. They even allow some networks to operate for years and decades if the individuals are not troublesome or abusing their communities. Factually they could likely stop all drug deals globally overnight. (cartel level), but if they did stop the heroin and cocaine trade there would be international chaos- Imo that is exactly why poppy production and assisted cocaine ops take place. Its not so much being conducted by the government. Its aimply being mitigated to keep the people happy... Take away the things they like and they will get smart or dumb, but the once compliant or otherwise blissfully unaware will take notice realquick.

They use data to shift key players into roles. They use it to remove the abusers and take control of the leaders of all markets and governments.

They will useblocal cable companies to mailmen as infiltrators, phone lines as intel providers... Your isp data, web searches, likes, dislikes, social networks, friends and foes, emails etc to profile you. Its common sense-

This is my very real advice. The word privacy is a false reality in todays world.

There is no isp free tor net that the intel communities can't seize. There is no vpns that allows you to go unmonitored without leaving a fingerprint of aome sort... There aren't hacks and exploits that can't be reverse engineered. There used to be, but there isnt anymore- digital privacy is extinct...

Basically: Dont be a psycho, Don't be a dissident, Don't be an agressor, Don't be a conflicting person to the status quo, and your free to be free.

If your a drug dealer stay ethical, Don't tote guns and ride high. (you will be demoted). Don't be an arms dealer and sell to our enemies lest you mind not being seen as one. Don't insult your communities and make yourself the subject of sore debate, lest you intend to feel your sore word in actions.

Essentially don't be a dumb cunt-

They aren't trying to invade your privacy, they are looking out for your best interest.

Here is a fun fact... There are 11 satellites (operated by the military) that control all gps in our nation. From your car to your cell phone. Pedometer to your isp. Your laptops ipads phones ect. All being actively monitored and filtered for suspicious and irregular patterns. They can use predpol to predict where you will be. Where you are going. What you are doing. They can place officers in strategic locations ahead of time, having full narratives of your intended actions prior to your making them and essentially set you up with a credible 'period' in which a finding can be assessed. Never having mentioned these tools at all. Dont believe me??? http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2016/09/can-predictive-policing-prevent-crime-it-happens

Its simple. You have set programs in your google search history. Not your browser history but your google history. Every location your cellphone went over several years shows a slight pattern. Say every sunday you and jill meet for a beer. Lately its been detected youve been a threat to society. Your on isis forums and learning about middle eastern oppression. Now you always pick up a six pack to share with jill. Since its her one day off a week and she works at 10am everyday you always leave after drinks.

Was that random speed trap a speed trap? Or were you maybe flagged as a dissident that needed 'perspective'?

Note the level of agencies buying into this very software from 2014 - present. https://www.google.com/amp/s/miamiherald.relaymedia.com/amp/news/local/community/miami-dade/article19256145.html

(predpol is 'predictive policing).

Its design is used on whole community aspect ratios to single perp identification patterns. It can assess when a perp will be active or dormant. Vulnderable or begrudgingly, and its higly accurate hence the huge amounts of leo outfits hopping on board...

So again- johnnylaw can be a bit overwhelming but its not designed to attack your privacy. (which isnt real).

They are keeping entire communities in check by essentially weeding out the most volatile agents and aggressors of our rights and property...

I know the basis of 'violations' it appears to maintain. I know the fundamentals aren't physically appealing. Yet seriously these systems are fully designed to maintain society by monitoring the most critical aspects of its decay.

Humans aren't perfect. Law understands this; Legal experts understand this;

Yet the more you strive to be a thorn in the governments side the more likely you are to meet these experts in person. Don't be an idiot or a massive criminal and truly you will have 0 problems. 0

Challenge the operating integrity of our most highly skilled legal enforcers, and suffer the consequences of its full integrity and authority.

I can only assure you that they don't care about the little things-

Don't do major crimes and dont get sentenced major time- The point is thst your not supposed to know their full integrity and reach, because if you did thier systems would be useless.

So expect that you have no such thing as privacy. Respect that you have civic responsibility, and reject the elements in life that put then into the positions of monitoring you more thourally in the first place...

Not exactly rocket science being a good person now is it?

This all apologetic nonsense. As Americans, we have a Constitutional right to privacy. The "big crime" here isn't a crime being perpetrated by those being spied upon, it is being perpetrated by those whom are doing the spying. It is not done in our best interests, it is a mechanism to commoditize and control the general population. It is absolutely abhorrent, and the people behind it should be publicly hanged.

While traditionally I agree-

There is a vast amount of unhealthy americans that truly need babysitters- There are non americans that come here that need babysitters-

Its a filtering algorithm. I dont see thst as being very abusive unless you abuse the laws yourself- To me if your angry that your own actions cost you your freedoms, its not exactly rocket science that a punishment would follow said actions.

I really just mean to say that while its not a perfect system. Its easily understandable how it was inherited, and adopted. Crafted and executed. So anyone "leaking it" isn't really telling us anything we didn't already know.

I am not worried about it generally due to it not really affecting me. Most non criminals really don't care? I mean it could be worse and they clearly could be utilizing these systens to completely overstep their boundaries. Generally I am thankful for the alphabet soup agencies services.

I mean they do a huge amount of good for us too; So its only common sense that they need a small amount of our trust for them to operate. Not like they are getting much appreciation; Meanwhile they collectively are the very reason why our nation is so strong. Without the intelligence communities think cuban missile crisis being undiscovered, sadam ruling the saudis, and hrc as president ...

Public Relations firms are what run the show (or, more accurately, how the show is run).

The problem is that they don't have a choice.

The gubment can kill off any company/corporation that does not cooperate. Most of them had unconstitutional gag orders placed on them, and some of them probably still remain.

The CIA disburses all of this stuff down the chain to dodge FOIA requests. Private companies are not subject to FOIA's, thats why the major burden of intelligence gathering is the hands of private companies.

I remember Assange saying Wikileaks would be working with the major tech companies on helping fix these backdoors. If the tech companies are doing it on purpose I assume Assange would know this. Is this all one big psy-op?!?

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I used to play knight online where you could choose between humans or orcs

The humans were always conformist fags who had strict clans, and the orcs were mostly turkish and english players just playing to fuck around.

It would be interesting if the intelligence communities look into this.

And when you choose good you're marked down as a dissenter.

Let's not forget your upvote/downvote histories on Reddit, etc. Think of thousands of little opinions adding up to a nice little profile they have on you now.

Why? It's a waste. Gaming decisions are like real life decisions at all. I do stuff in games that I would never do in real life because it's fake.