THEORY: Scientology was an experiment by the government to create a modern religion. It didn't work, so they are letting it die (Going Clear doc., Leah Remini, etc.)
can you elaborate? i understand sociology to mean the study of social relationships/society and the various theories that are produced by different assemblages of information. the sociology i know is too meta to be direct worship of the state, it would describe worship of the state.
l ron hubbard was a close friend of robert heinliens until the whole scientology thing... there is a running conspiracy that these two writers along with arthur c clarke and isaac asimov were partnered with the government at the end of the second world war
Hubbard and Jack Parsons (THE founder of the Jet Propulsion Laboratory) were mentored together by Aleister Crowley- who is largely suspected as being an agent for the British Secret Service (mi5/6).
I like it. It's a comedy/horror/true crime podcast. They did one on 9/11 before, and the one they're doing on Hubbard has talked about things I'd never heard about before with him. Specifically Parsons and Crowley. I hadn't heard of Jack Parsons before that.
Not only that but they paired top of the field scientists with fiction writers to rough out the evolution of human society.. So security services, control over the various forms of art, control over the sciences, paired with international finance and our own governments..
You have science families- Like the Darwins, Galtons, Wells, Huxleys, etc who are supported by the society in publishing science and fiction to promote empire and social policies which would benefit the crown.
My theory is that at least every religion since 100 BC has been created by the elites to hide the truth of our ancient astronaut/alien history.
Observe the Mormon ties to Freemasonry and the number of Washington bigwigs with early Mormon ties. Also, FLDS ties to child trafficking and organized crime.
Constantine didn't convert to Christianity. He merely adapted it to serve the state, attached his own preferred format of paganism to it, and stripped it of its revolutionary aspects, replacing them with state-worship.
Islam
The Empire-building religion. Judaism rebranded. Christian was created to promote orthodoxy and social order, Islam on the otherhand was an improved form of social control in that it literally teaches submission to authority, as well as zealous nationalism, black and white legalistic morality, and instills the belief of supernatural and hypersexual rewards for those who give their lives in service to the kaliphate.
I would say it can be obvious in the presence of Organized religion, so long as one is able to step outside of their own cultural biases and beliefs, and examines the ancient myths and recent discovers of science and archaeology. Language is the real barrier to this realization. The ancient gods of Japan, Tibet, India, Greece, Canaan, Egypt, and the tribes of the Americas are one in the same. Through time, the different dialects of Earth diverged and thus the names of the "gods" did as well. The titans/nephilim/Si-te-cah were giants created by aliens to labor and serve their needs. They built the monoliths and ruled over ancient cultures like the Sumerians. Genesis is their origin story, not ours, as is the Egyptian creation myth. They were a flawed creation, not because they sinned, but because they had mistakenly been created with the ability to make choices. They were wiped out by mankind and other alien races, such as the Dogon/Dagin/Djinn/Dragons and the grays/Olympians/Eloid (who would later take their place as the rulers of Egypt, Greece, Ecuador, and China for a time).
uh what, why are you so certain about all
this? is there somewhere I can read more about this, have a link or something? I have a feeling what you are saying is true and I just need to know more.
That should be enough to get you started. I've done a lot of cross-cultural etymological and linguistic research myself, but haven't posted/published it yet.
Seeing the connections requires a great deal of study in several seemingly unrelated fields. My advice would be to learn as much as you can about as much as you can, particularly math, art, physics, paleolinguistics, ancient languages, and a broad survey of the entire history of world religion.
Definitely. But it was institutionalized as a means of homogenizing the warring cultures within an already existent empire. It became a tool of Imperialism concurrently to a degree, but this aspect would become much more intrinsic to the religion later on.
You're basically right. I would use the term "Churchianity" because most modern churches are barely different from the Roman Mithra cult, but actual Christian teaching is very different.
And I've never seen any credible evidence of "ancient astronaut/alien" stuff, unless you're using that as a code.
What I don't get is if religions are set up to control the masses then why do most huge celebrities have tattoos/ wear clothes symbolized the devil, demons, even some celebrities are straight up christians.
Not all religions are set up to control the masses. Most religions are actually set up for good reasons. Most religions are SUBVERTED to control the masses.
Membership in Scientology has significantly decreased, but they still have billions and billions in cash. They're like Japan or Germany, powerful post-industrial nations with a shrinking population that is growing older.
Who also was involved (essentially through Hubbard and slightly with Parsons) in instructing the CIA with mind control techniques which ultimately led to MK-Ultra and that continued fuckery. I'm not even going to get into the Roswell aspect and LRH being a SciFi author... The KGB also learned these techniques but that's why it's interesting from the "controlled army" aspect. I mean it's been "working" from what I can tell which is sad but from a general perspective, it's fucked that people are paying thousands of dollars to learn techniques I can look up online. I don't prescribe to those but I think I'm pretty "clear" and I've gotten there all on my own, everyone can.
For the Scientologists out there, you can handle yourself, you don't need levels. Work on yourself and do your damn research.
I kind of assumed it was BS religion stars created for the tax incentives, and they went out of their way to make is so ridiculous to keep the member numbers down.
Why the war on the IRS then (Scientologists called it a war and they did win it, check it ohtmlhttp://www.cs.cmu.edu/~dst/Cowen/essays/irs.html )? Interdepartmental battle?
can you elaborate? i understand sociology to mean the study of social relationships/society and the various theories that are produced by different assemblages of information. the sociology i know is too meta to be direct worship of the state, it would describe worship of the state.
Hubbard and Jack Parsons (THE founder of the Jet Propulsion Laboratory) were mentored together by Aleister Crowley- who is largely suspected as being an agent for the British Secret Service (mi5/6).
That should be enough to get you started. I've done a lot of cross-cultural etymological and linguistic research myself, but haven't posted/published it yet.
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n/a buzzlite 2017-03-15
Replaced with Sociology which is the direct worship of the state.
n/a kindbutterfly 2017-03-15
can you elaborate? i understand sociology to mean the study of social relationships/society and the various theories that are produced by different assemblages of information. the sociology i know is too meta to be direct worship of the state, it would describe worship of the state.
n/a HashtagDadJoke 2017-03-15
Flag porn. Idolatry of elected officials.
n/a gaslightlinux 2017-03-15
That's not what Sociology is.
n/a VolunteerShill 2017-03-15
This is great.
n/a moelottosoprano 2017-03-15
l ron hubbard was a close friend of robert heinliens until the whole scientology thing... there is a running conspiracy that these two writers along with arthur c clarke and isaac asimov were partnered with the government at the end of the second world war
n/a know_comment 2017-03-15
Hubbard and Jack Parsons (THE founder of the Jet Propulsion Laboratory) were mentored together by Aleister Crowley- who is largely suspected as being an agent for the British Secret Service (mi5/6).
In 1946 they performed the babalon working ritual together to summon the goddess babalon. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Babalon_Working
n/a FuckWork79587 2017-03-15
Do you listen to Last Podcast on the Left? They're doing a series on Hubbard right now and talk about Parsons and Crowley
n/a know_comment 2017-03-15
never heard it. I know that it's a frequent podcast suggestion on reddit, though. maybe I'll peep it.
n/a FuckWork79587 2017-03-15
I like it. It's a comedy/horror/true crime podcast. They did one on 9/11 before, and the one they're doing on Hubbard has talked about things I'd never heard about before with him. Specifically Parsons and Crowley. I hadn't heard of Jack Parsons before that.
n/a moelottosoprano 2017-03-15
Not only that but they paired top of the field scientists with fiction writers to rough out the evolution of human society.. So security services, control over the various forms of art, control over the sciences, paired with international finance and our own governments..
n/a know_comment 2017-03-15
Sure- that's kindof the concept behind the Royal Society as well (again, british intelligence)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_Society
You have science families- Like the Darwins, Galtons, Wells, Huxleys, etc who are supported by the society in publishing science and fiction to promote empire and social policies which would benefit the crown.
n/a OhDeerLordMan 2017-03-15
They certainly don't get along with the government on the public side.
n/a Beaustrodamus 2017-03-15
My theory is that at least every religion since 100 BC has been created by the elites to hide the truth of our ancient astronaut/alien history.
Observe the Mormon ties to Freemasonry and the number of Washington bigwigs with early Mormon ties. Also, FLDS ties to child trafficking and organized crime.
Constantine didn't convert to Christianity. He merely adapted it to serve the state, attached his own preferred format of paganism to it, and stripped it of its revolutionary aspects, replacing them with state-worship.
Islam The Empire-building religion. Judaism rebranded. Christian was created to promote orthodoxy and social order, Islam on the otherhand was an improved form of social control in that it literally teaches submission to authority, as well as zealous nationalism, black and white legalistic morality, and instills the belief of supernatural and hypersexual rewards for those who give their lives in service to the kaliphate.
n/a kindbutterfly 2017-03-15
is it somehow obvious in the absence of organized religion? what am i missing?
n/a Beaustrodamus 2017-03-15
I would say it can be obvious in the presence of Organized religion, so long as one is able to step outside of their own cultural biases and beliefs, and examines the ancient myths and recent discovers of science and archaeology. Language is the real barrier to this realization. The ancient gods of Japan, Tibet, India, Greece, Canaan, Egypt, and the tribes of the Americas are one in the same. Through time, the different dialects of Earth diverged and thus the names of the "gods" did as well. The titans/nephilim/Si-te-cah were giants created by aliens to labor and serve their needs. They built the monoliths and ruled over ancient cultures like the Sumerians. Genesis is their origin story, not ours, as is the Egyptian creation myth. They were a flawed creation, not because they sinned, but because they had mistakenly been created with the ability to make choices. They were wiped out by mankind and other alien races, such as the Dogon/Dagin/Djinn/Dragons and the grays/Olympians/Eloid (who would later take their place as the rulers of Egypt, Greece, Ecuador, and China for a time).
n/a ramby270 2017-03-15
uh what, why are you so certain about all this? is there somewhere I can read more about this, have a link or something? I have a feeling what you are saying is true and I just need to know more.
n/a Beaustrodamus 2017-03-15
I'm still researching it and connecting the dots myself. I can provide some links though to material that might point you in the right direction.
Jesus, in Eastern religion https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kshitigarbha
THe book of Jubilees - the story of interbreeding between "angels" and humans, and the giants that were produced from this union. http://www.sacred-texts.com/bib/jub/jub18.htm
Susanoo - The Shinto accounts of the Western God known as Zeus http://www.godchecker.com/pantheon/japanese-mythology.php?deity=SUSANOO
r/holofractal is a great resource for understanding the connections between modern science, Kabbalah, archaeology, and sacred geometry. This video is a must see. https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=66&v=peYrSP8cke8
The Giza Pyramid - The Great Pyramid’s Subterranean Chamber Hydraulic Pulse Generator and Water Pump
http://sentinelkennels.com/Research_Article_V41.html
The CIA's Project Stargate files - Psychic Intelligence - They were able to analyze locations on Mars 1000s of years into the past using coordinated remote viewing https://www.cia.gov/library/readingroom/advanced-search-view?keyword=Stargate&label=&sm_field_document_number=&sm_field_original_classification=&dm_field_pub_date_op=%3D&dm_field_pub_date%5Bvalue%5D=&dm_field_pub_date%5Bmin%5D=&dm_field_pub_date%5Bmax%5D=&sm_field_content_type=&sm_field_case_number=
Vatican researcher assigned to do a literal translation of the Bible determines the Gods and Angels mentioned are aliens. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wc01No3LV70
That should be enough to get you started. I've done a lot of cross-cultural etymological and linguistic research myself, but haven't posted/published it yet.
n/a kindbutterfly 2017-03-15
none of that seems apparent in the absence of organized religion.
n/a Beaustrodamus 2017-03-15
Seeing the connections requires a great deal of study in several seemingly unrelated fields. My advice would be to learn as much as you can about as much as you can, particularly math, art, physics, paleolinguistics, ancient languages, and a broad survey of the entire history of world religion.
n/a ThatsPopetastic 2017-03-15
I would consider Christianity as the Empire Building religion as well.
n/a Beaustrodamus 2017-03-15
Definitely. But it was institutionalized as a means of homogenizing the warring cultures within an already existent empire. It became a tool of Imperialism concurrently to a degree, but this aspect would become much more intrinsic to the religion later on.
n/a HashtagDadJoke 2017-03-15
You're basically right. I would use the term "Churchianity" because most modern churches are barely different from the Roman Mithra cult, but actual Christian teaching is very different.
And I've never seen any credible evidence of "ancient astronaut/alien" stuff, unless you're using that as a code.
n/a be_c4reful 2017-03-15
Cool Idea!
n/a universalslab 2017-03-15
I think it is more likely that A Course in Miracles was invented by the government as a new religion. It has worked out moderately well.
n/a poolman677 2017-03-15
What I don't get is if religions are set up to control the masses then why do most huge celebrities have tattoos/ wear clothes symbolized the devil, demons, even some celebrities are straight up christians.
n/a Mageant 2017-03-15
It's about controlling all possible options. They would prefer people practice Satanism though.
Also they are not entirely in control of the main religions.
n/a Orangutan 2017-03-15
Divide & Conquer?
n/a HashtagDadJoke 2017-03-15
Not all religions are set up to control the masses. Most religions are actually set up for good reasons. Most religions are SUBVERTED to control the masses.
n/a mtnrddt 2017-03-15
Fun idea, but I don't think so. If that was the case, wouldn't they have achieved tax exempt status long before Hubbard died?
n/a jkess04 2017-03-15
who says they are letting Scientology die. Are their numbers getting smaller or something?
n/a gaslightlinux 2017-03-15
Membership in Scientology has significantly decreased, but they still have billions and billions in cash. They're like Japan or Germany, powerful post-industrial nations with a shrinking population that is growing older.
n/a nut_conspiracy_nut 2017-03-15
Or the mother of fools is always pregnant.
n/a TheMagicMarkerMan 2017-03-15
No it wasn't. It was created by L Ron Hubbard, a fuckin lunatic, conman who didn't want to pay taxes and wrote shitty science fiction.
n/a HashtagDadJoke 2017-03-15
Weird how he was friends with Crowley, who was a British Intelligence agent...
n/a sozcaps 2017-03-15
Which suggests what?
n/a HashtagDadJoke 2017-03-15
Entirely possible. Hubbard was friends with Crowley, who was a British intelligence agent.
n/a lalalola89 2017-03-15
Who also was involved (essentially through Hubbard and slightly with Parsons) in instructing the CIA with mind control techniques which ultimately led to MK-Ultra and that continued fuckery. I'm not even going to get into the Roswell aspect and LRH being a SciFi author... The KGB also learned these techniques but that's why it's interesting from the "controlled army" aspect. I mean it's been "working" from what I can tell which is sad but from a general perspective, it's fucked that people are paying thousands of dollars to learn techniques I can look up online. I don't prescribe to those but I think I'm pretty "clear" and I've gotten there all on my own, everyone can.
For the Scientologists out there, you can handle yourself, you don't need levels. Work on yourself and do your damn research.
n/a orionquest2016 2017-03-15
I kind of assumed it was BS religion stars created for the tax incentives, and they went out of their way to make is so ridiculous to keep the member numbers down.
n/a anthrolooksee 2017-03-15
Oh, I like this theory! Good thinking!
n/a freewillli 2017-03-15
I doubt that the US government is competent enough to social engineer a religion.
n/a swampbear 2017-03-15
Why the war on the IRS then (Scientologists called it a war and they did win it, check it ohtmlhttp://www.cs.cmu.edu/~dst/Cowen/essays/irs.html )? Interdepartmental battle?
n/a kindbutterfly 2017-03-15
can you elaborate? i understand sociology to mean the study of social relationships/society and the various theories that are produced by different assemblages of information. the sociology i know is too meta to be direct worship of the state, it would describe worship of the state.
n/a know_comment 2017-03-15
Hubbard and Jack Parsons (THE founder of the Jet Propulsion Laboratory) were mentored together by Aleister Crowley- who is largely suspected as being an agent for the British Secret Service (mi5/6).
In 1946 they performed the babalon working ritual together to summon the goddess babalon. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Babalon_Working
n/a Beaustrodamus 2017-03-15
I'm still researching it and connecting the dots myself. I can provide some links though to material that might point you in the right direction.
Jesus, in Eastern religion https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kshitigarbha
THe book of Jubilees - the story of interbreeding between "angels" and humans, and the giants that were produced from this union. http://www.sacred-texts.com/bib/jub/jub18.htm
Susanoo - The Shinto accounts of the Western God known as Zeus http://www.godchecker.com/pantheon/japanese-mythology.php?deity=SUSANOO
r/holofractal is a great resource for understanding the connections between modern science, Kabbalah, archaeology, and sacred geometry. This video is a must see. https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=66&v=peYrSP8cke8
The Giza Pyramid - The Great Pyramid’s Subterranean Chamber Hydraulic Pulse Generator and Water Pump
http://sentinelkennels.com/Research_Article_V41.html
The CIA's Project Stargate files - Psychic Intelligence - They were able to analyze locations on Mars 1000s of years into the past using coordinated remote viewing https://www.cia.gov/library/readingroom/advanced-search-view?keyword=Stargate&label=&sm_field_document_number=&sm_field_original_classification=&dm_field_pub_date_op=%3D&dm_field_pub_date%5Bvalue%5D=&dm_field_pub_date%5Bmin%5D=&dm_field_pub_date%5Bmax%5D=&sm_field_content_type=&sm_field_case_number=
Vatican researcher assigned to do a literal translation of the Bible determines the Gods and Angels mentioned are aliens. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wc01No3LV70
That should be enough to get you started. I've done a lot of cross-cultural etymological and linguistic research myself, but haven't posted/published it yet.
n/a VolunteerShill 2017-03-15
This is great.
n/a HashtagDadJoke 2017-03-15
Weird how he was friends with Crowley, who was a British Intelligence agent...