There is no LIBERAL or CONSERVATIVE media. There is just the MSM that is controlled by a few giant corporations that feed us garbage, and sell us to advertisers for profit.

428  2017-03-19 by FUCK_TPTB

I see a lot of comments and posts about CNN or FOX being either liberal or conservative. While there may be some instances in which one or the other will take a slight bias, in general, MSM feeds us garbage that TPTB want us to be fed. They capture our attention with attacking immigrants, blaming terrorists (our Governments are the real terrorists), talking about unimportant social issues like whether or not a trans person can use the bathroom, while ignoring certain corporation malpractices or even encouraging us to support certain corporations. Then we are fed with ads that fill our brains with even more garbage to feed into the consumerist society that is America. If you watch closely to CNN or FOX, you will realize that the underlying message is the same: Obedience. And they all discourage one thing: Civil Disobedience.

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They should all be charged with fake news. "Weapons of mass destruction"

Weapons of mind destruction.

Weapons of mass distraction

Weapons of mass instruction.

Really it is a weapon of mass manipulation, thanks Edward Bernays!

and don't forget you PAY to ingest all this crap.

i don't allow cable tv in my house. netflix and done.

Netflix is riddled with propaganda.

At least you can choose what plays on your screen.

Really? All of the MSM is fake news? ALL?

Not all, but a vast majority of it is propaganda and part of the government media complex.

Yup. News and facts you don't like, no matter where they come from, is fake.

Way to critically think genius!

the hardest thing to get is actual journalism these days.

"news" now means opinion. the bare bones who, what, when, where, how are almost impossible to disentangle, if you can even get them in the first place.

That disentangling you mentioned, that's called critical thinking for fuck sake!

That you find it

impossible

Doesn't surprise me at all. Are you not really embarrassed admitting that? How old are you?

Don't be a dick.

Well said

News reporters have always been opinionated and biased, this "fake news" and "real journalism" garbage is from the government trying to stop you from thinking critically and discussing anything damaging.

You could add Reddit down and up votes to this as well.

It's possible to watch cnn and fox and not become a brainwashed sheep.

Posts like these serve no purpose other than to undermine any truth in media, whilst you can argue media is flawed it is not entirely without merit.

Indeed the media is key to a functioning democracy. See Russias list of dead journalists to see what happens when only The State holds the keys.

Fascist narrative of fake news to manipulate sheep chumps and jerk-offs. There is no value in the big lies they shit on us if you are so stupid as to actually watch.

I had to delete and repost because I made a type in the title.

You had to delete because you are russian321

Isn't the power to ban anything except cnn/fox MSM the exact same thing as The State holding the keys?

Media = propaganda, if you don't watch the news you're uninformed, if you watch the news you're misinformed.

Oh wow, never mind bot.

Remember when you blocked me for pointing out your hypocrisy?

I have a lot of respect for James Corbett the Corbett report

His Federal Reserve documentary was suspiciously lacking in a certain 3-letter word.

Also, How Big Oil Conquered the World, good video, 70 mins, but the 3 letter word is hard to mention it seems. Or he's leaving that to the viewers to decide? Cuz he's also made videos on Israel unlike Alex Jones.

Or he doesn't think there is a massive jewish conspiracy?

Or he's just a disinformation agent. I'm sure he must have come across the word zionism and Jews more than once in his research.

He is a puppet too. A big one.

Eexactly, fox is hardly "conservative." If you really watch it's all acting, and its essentially a mockery.

Right now the message they are pushing is this:

Continue to try to discredit Trump, including making shit up i.e. not shaking hands with her

Their ultimate goal continues to be to impeach Trump, and they need "democrats" elected in 2018, but again remember, both sides have been infected, so it will be hard to know who is a true patriot.

Newspapers across the United States have also been purchase by Gannett/USA Today, and they do the same thing. Much less regional/local knews. Lots of pushed national opinion re: Trump is bad.

They are currently actively pushing civil disobedience, making urban communities less governable through "Grass roots" riots/pushing the media narrative of social unrest, trying to make the masses feel like impeaching Trump will save the world...

They are all corporate media, and big corporations want tax breaks and deregulations. This is the reason the MSM is conservative, and even on the supposedly liberal MSNBC, there are things you can get canned for reporting on things the PTB don't like.

https://trofire.com/2016/02/28/the-new-msnbc-perry-is-fired/

MSM is conservative, yet all of the major media outlets except for Fox News and WSJ openly supported Hillary.

  1. Hillary is conservative.

  2. The MSM is who got Trump elected.

1 is false (being right of socialists does not make her conservative). #2 has some truth to it, but only insofar as their obvious preference for Hillary added credibility to Trump's narrative that mainstream press organizations were working to get Hillary elected, meaning their more blatant than usual partisan bias may have inadvertently helped Trump.

TIL: a corporatist with strong ties to capitalist institutions Kirk Goldman Sachs is a "socialist". Why are people like you so afraid of reading the very basics about what socialism is? It would save you from making completely ignorant comments like claiming Clinton is a socialist

Hillary was the conservative candidate in 2016. She wanted to maintain the status quo, that's literally textbook conservatism. It was Trump that claimed that he wanted to bring change. Progressive-minded folks don't like the change he offered, but he was the one demanding change regardless.

Also, just because Clinton labels herself a "liberal" or a "progressive" doesn't mean that her views actually match the people who use those labels. Single payer universal healthcare has majority support, for example, but Clinton was practically bragging about how it would "never ever come to pass". She IS conservative, more so than the general population at least. She's described herself in private to donors as being "center-left to center-right". That "center-right" she's talking about, that's her conservatism.

The candidates (and the parties who nominated them) switched political philosophies because the Obama administration was the status quo? Using that to claim she is conservative is a stretch, especially given her statements and voting record.

Single payer healthcare is a socialist policy proposal. Not explicitly supporting it does not make her conservative.

Soooo, why do they hate trump so much?

They love him. He gets great ratings. That is why they pushed him so hard in the election.

Lol no one pushed him. They used him maybe.

Because it sells ads.

Ok, what's your solution?

Break them up.

There are a few wonderful sources for alternative media in the US. The Intercept and Democracy Now! are two. Generally, I try to read news from several sources: a few mainstream, a few right leaning, and a few left leaning. That way you get a broad perspective on how a news story is beating treated. It sharpens your analytical skills and makes it easier to spot misleading information.

Account two days old and pushing the divisive shitshow that is DN. Go away shill.

Removed. Rule 10. First warning.

I had to stop paying attention to Democracy Now after they called pizzagate a "debunked conspiracy theory". I liked the way they covered the news, especially the things that no one else was covering like the DAPL protests, but I've heard that they're also funded by Soros. The way they cover material seems to be pretty good for the most part, but please keep in mind that they're not above the fray. Use multiple sources to get your news, since even something like Democracy Now that appears to be super legitimate might be artificially keeping things from you too.

Yeah there is, I would say Democracy Now, Thom Hartman, TYT, and etc are very liberal versus The Blaze, OANN, Newsmax, and etc which are very conservative.

Tyt definitely has its moments of exercising true liberalism, especially with its smaller shows/segments and interviews etc, but generally it does have a far more controlled narrative in regards to the main show presented by Cenk.

fwiw, cenk started life as a wharton grad republican

thom hartman is professional sheepdog--worked overtime during 2016

democracynow is "left" but prone to DNC bandwagging whenever the demarcation between team blue and team red are at a fevered pitch, which robs them of objectivity and nuance. this is going on right now.

the only true left media are counterpunch, jacobin, and the monthly review. the monthly review is the only unforgivingly materialist point of view, and thus is the most nuanced and objective, but also a little bit dense reading. (most people are materialists, they just don't know it). counterpunch has shown itself to be fighti g the hysteria better than jacobin.

no exceptions for leaving out, distorting, or getting wrong history and context.

examples:

https://mronline.org/2017/03/07/trumps-march-of-folly/

http://www.counterpunch.org/2017/03/17/not-the-end-of-the-world-trump-and-the-presidency-in-perspective/

https://www.jacobinmag.com/2017/03/trump-budget-cuts-military-defense-spending-immigration/

i have no idea about the conservative sites.

i still fall into the habit of using the terms right and left, but i'm trying to break that, and use more precise lables.

Aren't you the guy that just posted an anti-Trump post on here a few hours ago?

Garbage or truth that goes against your narrative?

The media is controlled by the CIA.

Dude, the CIA are not the puppet masters.

The social engineers handle stuff like the media narratives. They determine "what events are going to happen, when they're gonna happen, how it's gonna happen, how long Inbetween each specific event is carried out, with what "spin" will the narrative be portrayed to us, and what goals are to be achieved with this campaign.

All of that is decided by a group of the most brilliant minds on planet earth who have sold their souls to this oligarchy. They know how our minds think, they create this "artificial habitat" that we all reside in. They engineer our popular culture and our society through the media, hence the term,

"social engineers"

Media matters

Corporate media is full Mockingbird.

You must appear to represent all sides of the divide and conquer paradigm if your cast net is to scoop up a maximum catch.

Almost like they used the free market to create a false 'left' and 'right' to make a never ending profit?

Or they don't give a shit because no matter what they report on they'll make it profit. Theres no conspiracy, just capitalism.

capitalism IS a conspiracy lol

It's not a conspiracy though. Capitalism is an economic system that when analyzed explains perfectly well why the ruling class behave the way it does. It's not a secret that capitalists want to maximize their profits even if it is at our expense. It's not a secret that it is in the best interests of capitalists to control government because it gives them an advantage. It's not a secret that the money capitalists make is by taking surplus value from our surplus labour, therefore class warfare is as clear as can be. It's not a secret that it is in the best interests of capitalists to control information, largely through media ownership, so they can spread their ideology.

It all seems conspiratorial, but a simple understanding of how capitalism works makes all of this pretty evident and expected.

Capitalism is an economic system that when analyzed explains perfectly well why the ruling class behave the way it does.

I didn't say the system didn't explain their irrational behavior.

I said that it's a secret plan among a group of people to do something which is harmful. And profiting on war is harmful. Profiting from people being locked up in prison is harmful. Profiting from denying healthcare to sick people is harmful. Putting dollars ahead of people is harmful, and that's how capitalism works.

We agree, I'm just saying I don't think it's much of a secret

Dey all da same

When will people realise that they are the product for the media companies and the amount of advertising is promising how many of you will watch their shit?

The ads aren't the product. You are.

Www.noagendashow.com

Listen and learn.

And get us fighting amongst ourselves instead of those in power

RT is a pretty reliable news source free from political bias. It's not that there isn't a liberal and conservative media, it's that the two major parties are nearly identical.

War propaganda and statist propaganda.

No left v right. No democrat v republican. Only authoritarian vs libertarian. All of them think they should run our lives and our minds.

Have a look at on YouTube for Psywar.

If "You" want the truth follow the money.

Or he's just a disinformation agent. I'm sure he must have come across the word zionism and Jews more than once in his research.