Let me explain exactly how Trump is a Rothschild asset and has been for decades. How his advisers, policies, alternative media talking heads all emanate from the Cabal, via Rothschild financial influence. We'll begin with Alex Jones and make our way down.

829  2017-03-25 by elnegroik

How deep does Alex ever go? It's always muh globalists reptillians Bilderberg You think Alex doesn't know about neo Aristotlean elite bloodlines? The Vatican? Khazarian crypto Jews? Rothschilds Rockerfellers? Come on.

why is Alex Gatekeeping for CNP?

Well maybe because a little bit of research into them will take you from Rothschilds all the way to Trump.

Well first we can start with you see Jerome Corsi (Washington correspondent Infowars) is a member of CNP - council for national policy.

As is Bannon. Conway. Erik Prince of blackwater fame. Oliver North. Iran Contra. Cocaine running under Bush. So we see the same necons of Bush cabinet, behind Trump this time around. Breitbart was founded by the Mercer family..


The Mercer family are an old Rothschild proxy, very old money.
Its a rarely discussed but very relevant fact that Mercer was decisive in securing key positions for his long time family advisers - Kellyane Conway & Robert Bannon . In addition to working as assets on Mercer family projects, Mercer had Conway organise the spending for Cruz's failed campaign. . After which they changed their support to Trump. The Mercer Foundation also happens to be the #1 financier of CNP. You may have seen Rebekah Mercer named as part of Trumps transition team.


150 CNP members recently signed a draft of an executive order, to protect Religious Liberty .

If signed it would create wholesale exemptions from a range of nondiscrimination laws and regulations “for people and organizations who claim religious objections to same-sex marriage, premarital sex, abortion, and trans identity.”

After 8, years of liberal policies from Obama, the introduction of such a bill is designed to cause extreme unrest and division. As is always the case- when we fight each other, we remain blissfully unaware of the hidden hands.

So it becomes clear, not only is Trump controlled opposition, but the alternative media that support him, his advisers, shady conservative think tanks that produce his policy and the (sadbuttrue)worlds most recognisable conspiracy personality are all Rothschild/ Cabal entities. Alex has acknowledge his family worked in the CIA.


None of this new however. If you've been following Trumps cabinet picks, you might remember Wilbur Ross?. Working for Rothschild inc in 1990 Ross helped Trump avoid bankruptcy after the latter missed multiple bond payments on the struggling Taj Mahal. At the time it was known Trumps finances were unravelling and he'd been unable to secure finances until Rothschild Inc sent Ross to save the day.

When asked why he'd made a deal with Trump, Ross insisted that Trump was worth saving. "“The Trump name is still very much an asset,” he said.

The Rothschild were wise to deploy Mercer & Ross to assist Trump over the years, they certainly seem to have accquired a prime asset in Trump, no doubt. The President of the United States is fully under Rothschild/Cabal control. A traitor is in the White House.

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ITT: Santa Clause is my real father.

How is this going to be effected when Trump leaves office?

How do you mean?

Alex Jones exposed buildabear 20 years ago.

Edit - typos :/

Good post. Are you going to post this on C_S_T?

Yeah

What's c_s_t?

r/C_S_T

What does it stand for?

critical shower thoughts

Never look to some guru or star for the truth. Anyone who seeks to profit from the Truth has to twist it because Truth isn't always profitable to all parties.

In Alex Jones' case, 34 of his sponsors are connected to Jewish or Israeli interests. Not to mention his jewish exwife. So "Zionist" becomes "Globalist."

Has it ever occurred to you this is most likely the case for all media? The jews control everything at some level.

He passed himself off as an anti-establishment,independent media who was morally righteous. A lot of people bought that for a long time and are just starting to realize otherwise and some have known for a while now. He is a gatekeeper

He would definitely make more money if he got on the bash Trump bandwagon.

If Trump is Rothschild operative I've lost respect for them. Surely there is someone more competent to carry out a plan.

Someone comes out with actual rational criticism of trump that you don't have to be a brock cocksucker to believe, and you people still fuckin complain.

Pretty much criticising Trump. Some are too dense to understand.

Lol

Seriously. It's not enough to think trumps a scumbag. He has to be a russian scumbag. Because they know they have invested so hard in this Russian narrative that they will never be taken seriously again unless they sell the world on the Russia bit.

News flash. They were never going to be taken seriously again anyway.

yeah and all those trump campaign advisors and managers who worked for russians and have russian friendship awards are mere coincidences.

Never drink all the kool-aid man. That shot between your ears is free to use.

nice not refuting the point and just going straight to ad-hominem excellent deflecting, http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/03/connections-trump-putin-russia-ties-chart-flynn-page-manafort-sessions-214868 im sure this is all "circumstancial" nothing substantial like mildly weird sounding emails about pizza.

Deflection is the word of the day I see.

http://www.thesaurus.com its free

and ad-hominem attacks on grammar instead of actually talking about points like the article, do you learn this at alt-reich summer camp?

Useless eaters. Everywhere.

ad-hominem 2: electric boogaloo

you people

What do you mean you people?

The nerve of this guy, /u/BrapAllGood!

boop

haha, u got booped

Removed. Rule 10.

Serious? You da boss. Sorry

Zing! This one's fresh.

Alex jones is shutting down this week. I saw a petition somewhere earlier with 116k signatures. Dershowitz handed him court papers last night

Every discussion is useless because we live in a holographic universe

Then let us design our reality.

If Trump is actually a Rothschild's asset than the left should love him right?

Edit: I am going to proudly vote for Trump again in 2020; regardless of any "facts" that get posted on reddit or spewed on MSM.

The bigger point is that CFR/left and CNP/right represent a synthetic binary that is inauthentic (that's what I mean by synthetic). They are both funded by the same ppl and rather than advocate for relevant policy, they work in tandem to control a divided public. All the talking heads, money, propaganda is leveraged for this vital goal: keep ppl divided, so they're distracted from asking bigger questions.

Trump is actively trying to unite the country, honestly if you (or anyone) spent 2 hours researching Trumps bibliography on his actual life accomplishments it becomes apparent quick that the man genuinely cares about the average Joe. It's obvious to even the biggest Trump hater that Trump isn't actually racist. A racist doesn't get the Ellis Island Award...something you never read on CNN.

I voted for Trump and really liked some of what I saw. But folks should read this post and begin thinking about some of the points raised.

I had to stop reading at "Trumps grandfather dodged military service in Germany to come to America"

Aw man, that's just when it started getting goooood!

Yeah, forgive me for stop reading at the part where the author of the article wants me to think leaving Germany before they decided to invade Europe is a bad thing.

you are why partisan politics are so bad, people just vote for their team no matter what, politicians do whatever the hell they want because regardless people will keep voting them in.

lol you are a blind sheep follower. why are u even here. Stay in TD dude u will be more happy

What part of what I said was inaccurate?

Do you not know the History of WW1?

Do you even know the Rothschilds?

Yeah, they are the largest advocates of global government. They own over half of all assets on the planet and want to keep people poor and stupid.

I don't think it's a party thing, if it was, he would have wanted Bush.

I like Trump And I'm nowhere near a conservative.

Just like how the left loved George Bush when he was president?

You seem to like all the policies behind world government but hate the creators of it?

I never said I like the policies of world government. I simply provided a counter-example to your argument. You said the left should love him, but it's evident in the past that the left despises all conservative presidents, including people who we generally know as part of TPTB.

Granted, there is an even greater push against Trump, which is something we need to consider. It's worse than it's ever been before.

Shouldn't you wait to see how he conducts himself throughout his presidency before voting for him next election?

So far so good.

Gotta love a closed mind.

closed mind because I don't share your viewpoint? Okay.

Not at all based on dif viewpoint. Just your own words. "I am going to proudly vote for Trump again in 2020; regardless of any "facts",... etc.

You've already decided, 3.5 years in advance, what action you'll take. That's a closed mind. I'm not applying any positive or negative moral judgement on it. But, from your own words, that Is what you're doing.

facts was quoted as referencing to CNN/MSNBC sorry if that wasn't obvious.

By your own definition, anyone that voted for Hillary Clinton has a closed mind.

Sure, if you leave a lotta words out and skipped reading comprehension in school. By my definition, anyone who decided they'd vote for Hillary Clinton 3.5 years in advance has a closed mind.

I will never vote for a Democrat again in my life, to corrupt.

Thank you for strengthening my point.

Enjoy 8 years of Trump snowflake.

Do you think I care about a stranger on the internet calling me a snowflake? You couldn't have made me feel more vindicated if I payed you to prove me right. You failed reading comprehension, and when I pointed out how, all you could throw back was another post proving my OP was justified.

Trey Gowdy 2024?

Nah, but if Ryan recovers from this last few weeks, I could see him running.

Oh god if Paul Ryan was on the ticket I would never vote for him.

Agreed.

I don't get it. Why would they want to support someone that is blatantly anti-NWO and wants to disassemble the European Union which is the Rothschilds "dream" long term project?

http://yournewswire.com/lord-rothschild-demands-britain-say-in-europe/

And are also constantly peddling anti-Trump/anti-nationalistic propaganda?

https://twitter.com/lderothschild?lang=en

Get your facts and logical thinking out of here, this is a left wing circle jerk and you aren't invited.

Yeah this sub is literally r/politics2.0

Should probably put an /s for good measure

Or just makes this r/speculation

Reminds me of that dossier known as pissgate for a week

No. This is a group of independent thinkers who understand right/left is nonsense.

You're talk about a long-con while (((they))) are laughing about the meta-con. The bigger picture behind the synthetic right-left divide is the synthetic CFR-CNP divide, two groups funded by same ppl with the goal of keeping the public Balkanized by extreme policy positions (((they))) put forward, and therefore suppressed from uniting against their overlords, independent of silly policy distinctions.

What might unite us? I suggested this earlier as an idea.

De-centralized people hate the centralization of power, but in order to be powerful enough to defeat the centralization, we must for a time centralize ourselves.

Unlikely to happen as long as the government is educating its citizens.

We're centralizing right now

There are very two separate anti-establishment movements. 1 is anti-statist and 1 is not.

“If you don't have a plan, you become part of somebody else's plan.” ― Terence McKenna

Substituting the word "solution" for plan I think is how the specifics of this works. Because bringing up another saying that's quoted often: "Focus on the solution, not the problem".

People have bought into the notion that the "solution" is human beings are by nature "competitive". Thus the overwhelming and oppressive "war" mentality literally everywhere (this "war" mentality has permeated every single aspect of our global culture that I've had a chance to observe in my 40 years of existence - and this is what I've referred to in my numerous past posts referring to the "nightmare that is my domestic situation).

Not saying competition is "wrong". What I am saying is there's a choice of how to view the world. And how one views the world is what will be created. If one were to view the world as "cooperative" in place of "competitive" - then that is the world that person would inhabit.

Here's a little bit of Seth talking about this from Unknown Reality Vol 1 page 457:

"Your world view is your personalized interpretation of the physical universe. If that view is expansive, then you have far greater leeway in creating your experience."

Excellent comment. I think this would make a fine post over in /r/C_S_T if you're interested in having some interesting discussion with likeminded people and those who will respectfully challenge your ideas.

Wow. I wondered where the conspiracy forum went to. I guess it's over in CST. Thanks for the heads up.

HEHEEHEH

This post is a demoralization attempt. We already know alex jones is probably a limited hangout. Using him to loosely connect trump with the rothschilds is seriously low-energy.

This post is a wake up call to a sub that used to be able to see past the false dichotomy. I wrote a piece on rising Democrat star Tulsi Gabbard, calling her membership of CFR info question. If you continue in my post history past that post to before the election you'll see me stating that Trump had done a good job in calling attention to the bs media. I was very much willing to give him a chance till he gave me reason to do otherwise. Having done so since taking office, my stance has changed accordingly.

Dude, really? Lmao this sub has been shilled out since I got here lmao. This reaching the top so quickly is suspect but, I'm not gonna make any claims as to why.

Make your claims, but don't expect answers from me. Happy to discuss the merits of my argument, not keen on being derailed chasing ghosts.

You're not my real dad.

Ghost Dad. Great flick.

If you like puddin pops and rape, maybe..

Too soon.. too soon.

(Chappelle doesn't a great sketch on Cosby in his recent Netflix special..)

I know lol I saw it

"He saves. But he rapes. But he rapes more than he saves"

This is the 1st anti Trump Post Ive ever seen sticked or at the top of this sub in 6 months

I was about to say, /r/conspiracy was getting a lot of criticism before this for ignoring Trump related conspiracies. Can't really have it both ways. I've been here for a fair amount of time and I couldn't tell you how many different organizations have had "control" of the sub according to posters here.

Same. This place has been takin' hits of Right-Wing Smack for a while.

And good on you for calling attention to tulsi, I still don't see where you make a connection that trump is a rothschild asset.

And good on you for calling attention to tulsi, I still don't see where you make a connection that trump is a rothschild asset.

The connection is what's been laid out in the post. Rothschild - Mercer- CNP-Trump.

You may not agree that connection is evidence of anything suspect, but difficult to see how it can be denied outright.

can you debunk any of the claims..... i think it makes a ton of sense

Maybe it's even easier for destruction to flourish in an environment where the perception is TPTB are opposing the destruction team when in actuality they are part of it.

Hahaha. Come on! You don't actually believe this

I don't believe any President is a champion of the people unless you measure the "people" by wealth.

Psy Op.

His actions are backed up by his words though, also he's constantly lobbying for nationalistic candidates like le pen and wilder throughout the world. Seriously the guy gets his news from Breibart and nationalistic news sources. Saying he's somehow working for the globalist interest doesn't make sense.

Also Nigel Farage. The alliance is pretty strong with these two, not just exchanging kind words. Like you said, it doesn't make sense.

Were you aware of Mercers relationship with Farage?

Prominent rightwing journalist Andrew Breitbart, who founded the site but died in 2012, told Bannon that they had “to take back the culture”. And, arguably, they have, though American culture is only the start of it. In 2014, Bannon launched Breitbart London, telling the New York Times it was specifically timed ahead of the UK’s forthcoming election. It was, he said, the latest front “in our current cultural and political war”.

Cambridge Analytica worked for the Trump campaign and, so I’d read, the Leave campaign. When Mercer supported Cruz, Cambridge Analytica worked with Cruz. When Robert Mercer started supporting Trump, Cambridge Analytica came too. And where Mercer’s money is, Steve Bannon is usually close by: it was reported that until recently he had a seat on the board.

On its website, Cambridge Analytica makes the astonishing boast that it has psychological profiles based on 5,000 separate pieces of data on 220 million American voters – its USP is to use this data to understand people’s deepest emotions and then target them accordingly. The system, according to Albright, amounted to a “propaganda machine”.

Mercer controls companies that influenced both the leave campaign and us election. Two of the greatest political shocks in history. At the heart of each, the Rothschild proxy. This is not a coincidence.

Yes, I noticed, that leads me to believe he's one of the rare type of billionaires, a good billionaire

I'm willing to bet that there are some billionaires out there that might've been on board with the whole globalism thing. Then they realized "Wait a minute... I'm going to LOSE MONEY BECAUSE OF THIS?! NOPE." I mean, depending on where their money came/comes from it's very possible. I dunno.

Mercer fundds alot of this himself. He co-owns RenTec..the best hedge fund ever.

Thats why it is called a "Psy Op". It is not supposed to make sense. His purpose was to look legitimate for many years while herding people into the pen. Similar to what Chomsky and Howard Zinn did. Jones ultimate purpose is to cover the tracks of Israel.

That's only recently tho.. he used to tip into Israel pretty hard. But I mean.. honestly, good luck staying in the media, politics or ANYWHERE and try naming the Jew.

Jeff Rense and Henry Makow hold back nothing. They are not as big but telling the truth to try to actually save this world, needs to be more important than selling out to make the big money.

Oh, two people I abs probably most people here have never heard of? :/ great argument there, dude.

speak for yourself. both men have huge viewership.

But not as big as Alex Jones is the point, really.

Jeff Rense would have been. He had a nationwide a.m. radio show a few years ago. He did not hold back and said everything about the Satanic Khazars. This led to show getting shut down after a few months. Jones was allowed to get huge because he is "their guy".

You do know what happens when every country becomes nationalistic right?

TPTB made the most money ever during WWII.

Because those that rule over you play both sides in order to keep you thoroughly divided. They financed both sides of two world wars centrally located in Europe.

I don't think the EU is anything but a ploy to keep the monetary system under the thumb of the iron bank. But the dynamics of the monetary system are rapidly changing. The EU is crumbling while countries like Italy, Spain and Greece are selling off assets in order to stave off defaults.

The inevitability of an EU collapse was always part of the playbook. That money eventually had to go back to the banks.

It has been a 1 party system long before Trump, my friend.

Did you vote to sticky?

Any particular reason you ask?

So you aren't gonna answer?

You asked a question with a question?

Because you have been a mod for a week only.

What exactly are you wondering about? Please elaborate.

Im sure you are a smart person and can work it out, after all you mod a conspiracy forum

you should answer the question first

The answer would have never been given. Other mods asked for the votes to be anonymous. I'm not stepping on toes the first day on the job.

Which mods requested the anonymity?

The anonymous ones.

The inevitability of an EU collapse was always part of the playbook.

How do you distinguish between something that happens and was part of the playbook and something that happens and wasn't?

Bias and ego.

Those are my two go-to methods as well.

How do you explain that Trump is promoting the audit of the Fed?

Why would they want to support someone that is blatantly anti-NWO and wants to disassemble the European Union which is the Rothschilds "dream" long term project?

Because the rules of the game have changed. Strong EU and strong euro currency is not wished for anymore. Unless a miracle happens, the US dollar will soon end its life as "reserve currency," see the graphics here and read about the life-cycle of world reserve currencies here.

The reserve currency transition is a cycle that has typically lasted in history somewhere between 80 to 110 years. Officially, the US dollar has been the reserve currency for 68 years. However, the US dollar was used in trade much before, since the 1920s, in fact. That would put the US dollar closer to 90+ years as the reserve currency.

It has happened many times before. "They" cycle through countries about once every hundred years. When the debt is unbearably high, "they" crash the system and move on to the next country. Parasites.

Once again and slowly: unless an economic miracle happens, the US dollar is going to crash down. Trump might have been hired to do exactly that.

Ding, ding, ding...we have a winner.

Alex jones is a fucking shill

People have been talking about a dollar collapse for as long as I've lived.

You're missing the point:

The US dollar isn't the only currency.

The reason it's held it's value is because everybody else is diluting their currency too.

People have been talking about a dollar collapse for as long as I've lived.

And yet, exactly at this phase there is a Council for National Policy member Steve Bannon in the WH, the same Bannon who is obsessed with the theory of The Fourth Turning

This fact should concern every American.

In the book, authors William Strauss and Neil Howe theorize that the history of a people moves in 80-to-100 year cycles called "saecula." The idea goes back to the ancient Greeks, who believed that at a given saeculum's end, there would come "ekpyrosis," a cataclysmic event that destroys the old order and brings in a new one in a trial of fire.

This era of change is known as the Fourth Turning, and Bannon, like Strauss and Howe, believes we are in the midst of one right now.

According to the book, the last two Fourth Turnings that America experienced were the Civil War and the Reconstruction, and then the Great Depression and World War II. Before that, it was the Revolutionary War.

All these were marked by periods of dread and decay in which the American people were forced to unite to rebuild a new future, *but only after a massive conflict in which many lives were lost.** It all starts with a catalyst event, then there's a period of regeneracy, after that there is a defining climax in which a war for the old order is fought, and then finally there is a resolution in which a new world order is stabilized.*

This is where Bannon's obsession with this book should cause concern. He believes that, for the new world order to rise, there must be a massive reckoning. That we will soon reach our climax conflict. *In the White House, he has shown that he is willing to advise Trump to enact policies that will disrupt our current order to bring about what he perceives as a necessary new one.** He encourages breaking down political and economic alliances and turning away from traditional American principles to cause chaos.*

Bannon is prepping you. /s

Does it really have to be this way?

I think business insider jumped the shark and started pulling shit out of their ass with assumptions. Look at how they come up with that theory.

Where is proof that bannon is obsessed with that book. Author provides zero sources or proof, just flat out calls it as fact.

For example:

Steve Bannon Believes The Apocalypse Is Coming And War Is Inevitable

(...) Bannon, who’s now ensconced in the West Wing as President Donald Trump’s closest adviser, has been portrayed as Trump’s main ideas guy. But in interviews, speeches and writing — and especially in his embrace of Strauss and Howe — he has made clear that he is, first and foremost, an apocalypticist.

In Bannon’s view, we are in the midst of an existential war, and everything is a part of that conflict. Treaties must be torn up, enemies named, culture changed. Global conflagration, should it occur, would only prove the theory correct. For Bannon, the Fourth Turning has arrived. The Grey Champion, a messianic strongman figure, may have already emerged. The apocalypse is now.

“What we are witnessing,” Bannon told The Washington Post last month, “is the birth of a new political order.”

(...)

“This is the fourth great crisis in American history,” Bannon told an audience at the Liberty Restoration Foundation, a conservative nonprofit, in 2011. “We had the Revolution. We had the Civil War. We had the Great Depression and World War II. This is the great Fourth Turning in American history, and we’re going to be one thing on the other side.”

Major crises “happen in about 80- or 100-year cycles,” Bannon told a conference put on by the Republican women’s group Project GoPink that same year. “And somewhere over the next 10 or 20 years, we’re going to come through this crisis, and we’re either going to be the country that was bequeathed to us or it’s going to be something that’s completely or totally different.”

The “Judeo-Christian West is collapsing,” he went on. “It’s imploding. And it’s imploding on our watch. And the blowback of that is going to be tremendous.”

War is coming, Bannon has warned. In fact, it’s already here.

So wait, how is bannon working for rothschilds and the world cabal if he eagerly awaits for system to collapse . is he wchroedingers bannon?

how is bannon working for rothschilds and the world cabal if he eagerly awaits for establishment to collapse .

A better approach would be to ask WHY is the cabal (Rotshilds, whatever) waiting for the the system to collapse.

Read my first comment in this thread, the key quote is: "When the debt is unbearably high, "they" crash the system and move on to the next country. Parasites."

They are not tho. This Fourth Turning being a life or death struggle between the ruling class of bankers, corporate elites, and career politicians versus the working and opressed class

You are wrong. "the working and opressed class" is the last thing they care about.

Are you purposely obtuse? Read what i said again. I said its a struggle between working class and bankers.

Read what i said again. I said its a struggle between working class and bankers.

Oh wow. I get it now. Are you saying that the Bannon and Trump will take the evil bankers down, seize the Federal Reserve and issue interest-free currency to finance major infrastructure projects that will generate major wealth and benefit the working class? If so, I must apologize. I must have totally misunderstood Trump's policy. Stupid me.

Now you are just putting words in my mouth and ignoring everything I actually said

Now you are just putting words in my mouth and ignoring everything I actually said

You haven't said much. So how will the "life or death struggle between the ruling class of bankers, corporate elites, and career politicians versus the working and opressed class" happen, in your opinion?

I dont know. All this is speculation at this point. Bannon thinks we are going through one already though, and a trump presidency and brexit point in that direction also.

You don't know, but fortunately there are people who do know and have tangible, concrete ideas about how to make the world a better place.

If you look back you can see how George Washington won the revolution, or what JFK planned to do to improve the economy (both were assassinated, by the way).

Sadly, Bannon and his cabal masters only see chaos, destruction and wars as an outcome. The working class (if it survives at all) will get another lesson that it is destined to serve.

Sigh, here we go again. Is bannon working for establishment cabal all while wanting the establishment cabal to end? And this is bad because? You seriously defending the status quo becuase otherwise it will bring destruction to world? Let me check what sub we are on, im in disbelief

Time to get some facts straight.

Is bannon working for establishment cabal

Yes, he clearly is. He is a member of CNP that is funded by Rothschilds.

all while wanting the establishment cabal to end?

No, not at all.

You seriously defending the status quo

I am definitely not.

because otherwise it will bring destruction to world?

Bannon et al. are talking about the destruction, chaos and wars that are "inevitably" coming , they are implanting this idea into your mind, and I'm trying to warn you.

Ok. Seems a war of some sort is inevitable, last 3 turnings ended up with huge wars, but Rothschild s are still around in some form or another. In last turning they were chased out germany and look what happened shortly after

a war of some sort is inevitable

It seems they might have succeeded with the idea implanting in your case. Here my advice to you: if war, then let's fight them with their own weapons. Become wealthy. They are afraid of rich and influential middle/working calls that has time to think WHY is is governed by incompetent genocidal maniacs. How do you become wealthy? Demand that Trump takes the evil bankers down, seizes the Federal Reserve and issues interest-free currency to finance major infrastructure projects that will generate major wealth and benefit the working class. Problem solved. No real, destructive wars needed.

http://www.lifecourse.com/about/method/the-four-turnings.html

http://www.michaeljournal.org/articles/social-credit/item/the-history-of-banking-control-in-the-united-states

Last 3 great turnings coincided with rothschilds and their banking system being threatened.

Current 4th turning seems to fall in with a trump presidency.

Calls to audit the fed etc, rothschilds have to make a move. So bannon is either their inside man to trump, , or he is a double agent and wants current system to end while working through the establishment hoops

You are like a dog chasing its own tail. First you insist that there is no proof that Bannon is obsessed with the fourth turning theory, then you claim that his obsession (sic!) might be a hidden way to warn us, then you think he is a double agent, and eventually you liken Bannon to Robin Hood. Decide, mate. After you decide, demand concrete solutions from Bannon and POTUS! that lead to the better world for all of us.

Just pointing out inconsistencies in your claim.

You have pointed to nothing.

P.s isnt what you are proposing is exactly what Hitler did?

Seized banks, interest free currency, massive i frastructure projects and achieved near total employment.

That would sit well with half the cou try who alresdy accuse.trump of fascism among other things.

Hitler was controlled, he was a British agent. WW2 was a planned outcome.

Can you explain the Washington thing? Not many conspiracies over there?

GW set up the national banking system, enabling the federal government to finance large infrastructure projects (canals, roads etc.)

Ideologically, GW deceived fremasons by inventing "Illuminati" to make the revolution (and victory) possible.

I thought the upper echelon of free Mason was illuminati and they have the rest of the order working against what they think.

No, "Illuminati" was a deception by American revolutionaries to confused the freemasons. Freemasons thought that the Revolution is sanctioned, "allowed" to happen, they realized that they were deceived too late.

Basically, the expression "Illuminati" did not really exist before 1776.

The Illuminati was formed in 1776.

The cold war never ended. WWIII was conceived on 9/11, if there will be one. A third world war may cover a financial crash of the USD, like it did before. Hopefully WWIII will be aborted.

With the way the Federal Reserve private banking cartel is set up, the USD will eventually crash. Without the petrodollar system, the USD would have collapsed decades ago. The USD is the world reserve currency and effects the value of most, if not, all other currencies, especially fiat ones. Under the petrodollar system, many countries are forced to trade oil for USD. Leaders and governments that decide to use another, often gold backed currency, are taken out (Saddam Hussein, Gaddafi, etc.).

Global Elites like the Rothschilds have funded both sides of many western wars since Napoleon. After WWI, the Rockefellers and the Rothschilds created the League of Nations, a step into global governing. The same and other global elites financed the second world war (included papa HW Bush's papa, who has funded the Nazis in WWII).

After WWII, the Rockefellers and the Rothschilds created the United Nations. The Rockefellers and the Rothschilds are two of the families of "The Council of 13" (highest known, but others may be even above them) of the "Illuminati" - but for not getting labeled as a "nutter" - call them the global elites.

Anyway, there are people that profit from the war industry itself (Haliburton, Boeing, arms & ammunition manufacturers ect.).

Certain global elites started in oil and/or banking (such as the Rockefellers and Rothschilds), which remain as key avenues. Some families have also went into big pharma, biotech, MSM, federal politics, etc.

All wars are bankers wars. Most, if not all wars in the last or few centuries were just business opportunities and to expand powers of business and revenue (the fundamental basis of the global elites (see Confessions of an Economic Hitman by John Perkins, War is a Racket by Major General Smedley D Butler (the highest decorated general in US history (served 33 years and 4 months))), the Shock Doctrine by Naomi Klein, etc.).

The wars of the lest century and onward are at least for profit and natural resources like oil, minerals, gold (See Ukraine - most of their gold went missing after the western backed Neo Nazis took over the government) - but it does not end there - their thirst for power includes controlling forieng government puppets, central banks, and leverage over Russia, especial in those regions.

However, the people (Rockefellers, Rothschilds, other global elites) also control Russia (or at least the people above them control them both). One or some of the people that are running the IMF and/or World Bank also control the Russian powered BRICS banks.

The end goal of these global elites is rather cliche - they want total control over everything on this planet, like a psychopath. The end goal of most of these western global elites is to have a one world government and one world currency, all under their control.

These powers that be want total control over everything and everyone on this planet, just like how the original Illuminati had wanted to do before they were caught and diminished.

Were they truely executed or did they reimerged like a Phoenix from a satanic hellfire? The original Bavarian Illuminati had contingency plans for if they were discovered and stopped. By the way things are going, their contingency plans have prevailed.

However, and especially thanks to internet and instant communications, many people are awakening to the evils of certain big governments and big corporations that seem to be orchestrating the end goals of this original Illuminati group, weather they are the Illuminati, or just a new set of few individuals looking for absolute power over everything on this planet, even after they had accumulated vast amounts of wealth.

These global elite families, extended families, political puppets, etc. all want control over all monies, countries, and all aspects of us plebs on this planet full of sleeping giants that are just emerging from their deep slumber and are now awakening in much more and full force than ever before thanks to internet and instant communications.

People in your previous generation (if you are as young as me) may have thought masses were waking up big-time, but failed to do anything - they may just well see the greater humanity awake -right now or very soon.

Think of the experiment/story of the "100th monkey". After nuclear bombs were tested, years later some researchers decided to put a pack of monkeys on an island that had been nuked. They taught some of the monkeys to wash radioactive coconuts in water for cleansing, because the shells above radiation. Not many monkeys did at the beginning. The monkeys that did wash them taught others, slowly building up like a curve on a data graph. It took time to kick in, but by the time the 100th monkey started washing his coconut, all of the other monkeys of the population joined into what the dissenting monkeys were doing, by washing their coconuts!

We are in extraordinary times right now as humans on earth. Big things seem like they may be coming. Do not feel defeated and hopeless, although how difficult it may seem. By the looks of it, the anti-humanist global elites are shitting themselves right now as they are loosing power as the general populations are waking up to their bullshit!

A free and prosperous human race will endure without negative interference of these anti-humanist global elites ruining everything!

Live long and prosper brothers/sisters!

He does have Andrew Jackson portrait, above his desk and praises him multiple times. Compares his win to Jacksons

He does have Andrew Jackson portrait, above his desk and praises him multiple times. Compares his win to Jacksons

Jackson was a traitor.

To who, the bankers? He cut the govt down, destroyed the corrupt banking system in America, the only really bad thing he did was trail of tears killing many natives. That was the right move for America as a whole, and it made it much more powerful with all that good land and scaring natives from resistance for decades.

He cut the govt down, destroyed the corrupt banking system in America

Yes, precisely this. He destroyed both the second Bank which was financing the building of canals and railroads, and tariffs protecting the US industry. The British Empire gained influence again.

The second bank was a horrible thing. Please don't tell me you are trying to spin Interest carrying money as a positive thing. He destroyed the power of the banking institutions. The UK didn't get more powerful. Finance and banking lost grip of America for years because of him. Yes he ended the tariff of abominations in 1832,but that was something JQA wrote.

What's wrong with Hamiltonian type of bank?

I didn't say the UK, I said the British Empire. Yes, they are controling the US even now.

EDIT:

Just found this comment worth reading, what Lincoln did.

I use UK British Empire and England almost interchangeabley because really it's London bankers and the crown controlling.

They were known to be corrupt for one. Two interest bearing loans to govt in its own currency are ridiculous. Bankers love it though.

Yes, the Crown, if you will.

So the current, yuge US debt is somewhat better?

What? Jackson eliminated the debt completly. What does Hamilton banks have that the fed reserve doesnt that would stop Regan the bushes Clinton and Obama from running up the debt?

What does Hamilton banks have that the fed reserve doesnt

Owned by the nation, perhaps? As opposed to this?

The Hamilton banks were still extremely corrupt and they were leading to an American aristocracy

Let me try a magic trick... I'm going to close my eyes for a second, and yes! I cannot see it anymore. The US debt disappeared! We don't owe any money to the cabal anymore. Wow.

I'm confused what you are trying to say. Everyone here believes some crazy shit, but I think everyone here knows about the federal reserve being full of shit. Most us debt is owned by American citizens though.

I think everyone here knows about the federal reserve being full of shit

Agreed. Soon everyone knows that everyone knows that "he federal reserve being full of shit."

Most us debt is owned by American citizens though.

So the American citizens own more or less one big nothing, about $20T in debt plus some $100T+ unfunded liabilities to be precise, correct?

What are we going to do about it?

Nothing. We can never pay it back. It's pretty much impossible to do so. Most likely what trump is gonna do is inflate, and inflate away the debt. Mnuchin has already state he wants to move the debt back to 10 25 50 year, possibly 100 year instead of short term like which Clinton transitioned it over to. Fixed Intrest rates on the whole debt then inflate. He complains about others devaluing their currency and them ripping us off when they do that. He can't stop them. He's gonna do it himself. A decade of basically 0% interest with huge amounts of fiscal and monetary easing already has an inflation bubble. If the ultra rich tried to spend their money on tangibles we'd have a ton of inflation. My hope is he loves up to his admiration of Andrew Jackson means he will seize the Fed reserve once he gets control of the intelligence apparatus of the US.

So you need to slice and dice quotes?

Let's start them with a long prologue and tell them what to think and then make a rather innocuous quote seem scary.

Then add another quote from 6 years ago, something which most people on this sub believe and have believed, that America is in a crisis.

Then you slice and dice a bit more together and finalize with a non-quote.

If anyone wants to know about Bannon I suggest you watch Generation Zero. Instead of listening to people tell us what he thinks over and over its much better to get it from the horses mouth.

I suggest everyone here read that book because it's spot on. He's right. If you read it, its almost scary how prophetic it is...

Do you know what book is also prophetic? "The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion".

Yep, one of my favorites. My family and I read it over Shul

Order from chaos. Basic freemason ideology.

Those people are usually selling "gold". You get a certificate anyhow.

The next country is one that is way to xenophobic and will not allow foreigners to buy even half a company. They can't rob China blind like they did the west.

the next thing is going to be a combination of SDR & Blockchain currencys.

And blatantly pro-1st & 2nd amendment too, which is a good sign. That's why I don't buy the "he's one of them and he will lose" narrative on this sub during the election cycle - obviously Jeb was the controlled opposition. If they already had Jeb, why Trump ?

They had ¡JEB! Cruz and Rubio. I honestly thought it would end up being Clinton VS Bush.

"Oooooh I member Clinton n bush!"

and then they switched from Cruz to Trump

The real conspiracy is this sticky. The establishment hates Trump and are using CTR, the deep state, the neocons and Cold War like propaganda to attempt to take him down

Trump is the establishment. Who do you think his friends are? The Plumbers and Janitors who got suckered into voting for him or Larry Silverstein, Sheldon Adelson and Bibi Netanyahu.

If Trump was the establishment............he wouldn't have the establishment Republicans and Democrats on his ass trying to impeach him

Lets use our head here, Astralrocker.

Also, nobody got suckered into voting for him. Trump supporters voted for him because of what he promised in his campaign. Guess what? He's keeping to his promises more so than any President we've seen in modern history. He's not a career politician. He made promises and he's trying his hardest to keep them.

Trump's new Treasury Secretary, is a Skull and Bonesman.

once a bonesman, always a bonesman as they say. regardless, the guy has a point he's done more than any other president has done in the first couple of months.

He's keeping to his promises He made promises and he's trying his hardest to keep them.

Which is it?

uhhhhhh both?

derp

His budget for national defense is 560 billion. His number one priority is ensuring the military keeps getting money for wars.

Yes he's keeping his promises. It doesn't interfere with anything.

The real conspiracy is the other sticky...theAWAN brothers. This is a 4Ds post and people are so bad at reading between the lines they are falling for it

Trump is our first libertarian president who is being assaulted by both sides so he's made very strange (/bad in many cases) bedfellows like Gannon; also he needs to remove comedy and McCabe

Autocorrect made theBannon into Gannon and Thecomey into comedy FYI. Its a kindle

Somehow the autocorrect still works out. But it made me think of ganon from zelda.

Did you really just say Trump is a libertarian? Wow.

Meh..more like a charade to keep the goyim distracted.

How about the shameless Trump dickriders who damage control everything he does and spin it just like Hilbots do?

Oh, right

LMFAO CTR

I think you just undid their assertion that Trump isn't simply a politically inept but free agent

What the hell are you talking about. Trump is the most elitist, tied to the NWO president we have ever had.

Hegelian Dialectic. You have to control both opposing forces (thesis and antithesis) in order do control the result (the synthesis)

Wow nice work mods, have you finally been uncucked by /r/t_D?

These comments are so hilarious because when the liberals in here get there asses kicked this is all they cry

Can anyone see beyond the liberal/conservative trap? You fall for it everytime. That is how the elite control you. Try this: try to actually think as an "Independent Mind"

lol Jill stein 2020

they are all in on it. but jill is better than all of them.

Lol

I'm not sure you comprehend the situation. The American "democracy" is broken and has been for decades, and not because evil Russians decided to expose DNC corruption. Long before Trump arrived. "There is a traitor in the White House" is a meaningless statement. They are all traitors. For 100 years or more the West has killed Muslims by the millions and invaded their countries in the name of oil.

But it is a two party system. The choice doesn't matter, except that which causes the most chaos. More of the same won't fix anything. Not voting won't do much. Voting 3rd party is equally useless, because one of the two parties will win anyway. Thus the only practical choice is Trump, and after that whatever candidate that has the best chance of winning while upsetting the most amount of people.

A vote for Trump is a vote for unrest, for dissatisfaction, for saying we don't want more of the same. You might say he is the same, but I don't think millions of people would have marched in the streets against the president if Hillary had won.

This constitutes a sticky?

It is common knowledge that Alex Jones, along with every popular media figure, is not to be trusted. No one is blind to the influence CFR and CNP exert on Washington, either. I will be called a shill, told I am too stupid to make connections, creating straw mans, etc. however all OP has done here is make note of wealthy businesspeople engaging in business with other wealthy businesspeople before immediately concluding that Trump is controlled by muh Jews, which could be alluded to in a far less amateur manner (Kushner, Bannon & Breitbart's relationship to Israelis). Shit write-up, judging from your post history seems like you've been trying to get the shit you're throwing at the wall to stick for quite some time, friend.

This is literally just a gloried shit post, I don't know why the mods care to sticky this when I see the same shit on the new queue every day.

All these posts are literally just speculation, these people fail to see that there was a huge opposition against Trump. The global elites are pissed off.

Cynthia McKinney put it in good terms. It's the globalists vs the pilgrims. Both bad groups but the globalists have been doing their shit work for some time now and now it's time for balance.

I don't like trump but I'm very happy he's in office instead of Hillary.

It just makes the sub look even more fringe and less credible when posts like this are stickied, especially alongside fantastic posts such as that of the one on the Awann brothers.

Lol right? The whole Awann brothers scandal has everything to do with this opposition against trump. Idk maybe mods are trying to equal it out.

I can understand mods wanting to make this place seem like less of a r/t_d spinoff, however you can go about that without making everyone here look retarded.

speak for yourself "literally a nazi". no insult btw. it is actually your user name.

Wrong. It gives it more credibility. This sub may be the most important forum in the world right now. The mods here have brains, courage and honesty.

How does this a post making outlandish claims with no evidence provide this sub with credibility? This sub is important, but thats a stretch. The mods look stupid for stickying this, as do we as a result.

i disagree...

Alright. Can you provide some reasoning instead of downvoting every post that ruffles your feathers?

nope. you can do your own follow up research. it is all out there :)

You're even more useless than OP.

thanks. and have a great day :)

Please, explain what exactly you find useless?

I think it's a fairly coherent premise to follow. Circumstantial? Elements of it, sure. But as I've said repeatedly, I'm not a PI. Or a super spy. I've presented sources where possible to support a narrative.

Point by point if need be, happy to discuss further? Do you disagree with the Mercer Rothschild connection? Or the CNP Mercer connection? Trump Mercer?

I am not arguing the presence of the connections presented, however I believe that presenting them as evidence of the claims that you are making, in the manner in which you are ("traitor in the White House"), is grasping at straws. My problem isn't so much with the post as it is with the attention it is receiving - not only is the "evidence" weak, it is not substantial enough to even warrant a post if you intend on drawing the conclusion that you have.

Ok- please explain.

it is not substantial enough to even warrant a post if you intend on drawing the conclusion that you have.

I'm listening. How would you explain the connections and associations presented? You've accepted they're not in fact false, yes? Checked each source etc

"I believe Trumps relationship with These individuals to demonstrate his unsuitability for office on account of the undue influence Rothschild capital has on his him."

You've said you agree the sources are legitimate, so it's the narrative that raises your ire?

Well one of our new mods is here posting without the mod identifier I wonder if they voted to sticky? Not only voting to sticky but here defending the post somewhat incognito. No nothing unusual here at all.

I wondered about that.

We can interact as community members too, you know.

We typically try and only flair up when answering a question from a mod perspective or performing a moderator action.

At least that's how I understood it to work.

I'm not trying to start some big thing. Just pointing out an observable fact on a post that some of the users seem confused why there is a sticky.

I guess it's good to know that one of our mods thinks the EU is going to collapse under Trump and that is what TPTB had planned. I'll make a note.

I'm not trying to start some big thing. Just pointing out an observable fact on a post that some of the users seem confused why there is a sticky.

Conspiracy board begets conspiracy post that conspiracy mods think everyone should see and consume. Wonder all you want. But there's better things to wonder about IMO.

I guess it's good to know that one of our mods thinks the EU is going to collapse under Trump and that that is what TPTB had planned. I'll make a note.

Who? Which one said this? And who cares either way what someone thinks will happen in the future?

Balthanos. I don't know anything about them I just saw the name remembered they were a new mod and asked them if they voted to sticky. One of the other mods said they voted for it. I personally don't really care if it's stickied or not but some of the other users seemed to be concerned. Its good food for thought regardless of your political leanings.

post that conspiracy mods think everyone should see and consume

Mostly a lurker round these parts since I live on T_D but isn't this exactly the shit that as a conspiracy mod you should be against? Taking sides and telling people what to read?

Seriously, this is nothing but a bunch of circumstantial evidence tying in people related by only one degree of separation, this is amateurish, and Im not against it being posted, I'm hugely against it being promoted.

I think it reflects poorly on the mods here, and hey, if you guys personally think Alex Jones is compromised thats cool, but let the rest of us draw that conclusion on our own if we want.

This post NEEDS to be stickied. Here's to hoping many Trump bots will WAKE UP

I agree. Not a totally worthless post, wouldn't call it a shit post, but the Sticky surprises me.

Only reason I can think is because Jones threw PG under the bus and people want to show why the guy couldn't be trusted to begin with.

To be fair, he could be trying to save his ass. Don't wanna get Ben Swann'd. On the other hand, those concerned should investigate further than the pizza shop (foreign charities such as Elpida, Saudis, missing Yemenis, etc.), instead of crying every time they are told to calm down about a restaurant. I've always had a feeling the Comet aspect of pedogate was disinfo or that the bread crumbs were thrown in order to distract civilian investigators.

The guy has been covering for Israel Doing 911 right from the beginning. He has said on numerous occasions that the Illuminati is only the Vatican and German Death Cults. Never once does he mention the facts this world has been completely overtaken by Israel and Zionist Interests. Jones even says the saudis and chinese run hollywood. hahaha

Nowhere did I defend Alex Jones, I did the opposite actually. Israel's nefarious, underhanded actions are stranger to no one that posts here.

so what is the problem you are having then?

You, apparently.

For transparency it would pay to state you are extremely anti-trump, I for the record are pro. This post is lacking any evidence other than 'guilt by association' which is weak at best. I don't believe this sub should be Trump love fest but equally it shouldn't be hate fest for disenfranchised democrats. If any of your claims of Trump being under 'total control by the cabal/Rothschilds' where accurate the democrats would have produced recordings or actual evidence prior to the inauguration - they wouldn't still be clinging to the flailing Russia hacked Trump into the WH narrative.

I'm not anti or pro anyone. I'm pro "us" if anything. Not whoevers selling wolf tickets this time around. Check my post history - you'll see me offer the same treatment to rising Democrat Tulsi Gabbard. My only concern is how legitimate the individual is to the people. Questionable alliances and acts deserve scrutiny and condemnation. If you go back to my post history you'll see I posted content stating I'd give trump the benefit of the doubt till I saw what he was about. I see what he's about, so my attitude has change accordingly.

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Removed. Rule 4.

Do I need to edit out "fucking idiot"? You're really going to censor my post?

Do I need to edit out "fucking idiot"?

You can make your point just fine without that.

You're really going to censor my post?

It sure looks like it, doesn't it?

Have fun on your lil power trip LOL

Holy shit wtf

So...about that comment on adding mods being a safe idea...oh no.

Wowww

Free speech means allowing speech you dislike. I never realized cussing was against the rules unless you're 10..?

You do not have free speech on this website or this subreddit.

What give you the impression you have this?

LOL..

Tool

Wow they are removing your post for that? WTF happened to the mods are they all shills now or just wannabe dictators?

u/JamesColesPardon = loser in real life.

Thats a fair response, thankyou for taking the time to articulate it. Too much of the time ppl respond emotionally and from unflinching partisan positions. Any discourse is better than throwing around insults. I keep an open mind in regards to whether or not Trump is the real deal. like if i'm shown the absolute provable in court evidence (with chain of custody) Im not going to be making excuses for him. At the same time I do feel like when broad accusations are made it is essential to question them.

Of course.

Your concerns on my potential bias are valid and understood. But consider it this way:

What would a president do who was really for the people?

Well he'd sign an executive order authorising the US government to issue usury free currency, as opposed to purchasing dollars from the corrupt Cabal operated federal reserve. It's really that simple.

Rather than pay 24-36% interest to Rothschild central bankers, Lincoln chose to do just that.

In 1972, the United States Treasury Department was asked to compute the amount of interest that would have been paid if that 400 million dollars would have been borrowed at interest instead of being issued by Abraham Lincoln. They did some computations, and a few weeks later, the United States Treasury Department said the United States Government saved 4 billion dollars in interest because Lincoln had created his own money

So why hasn't Trump done that? What's his excuse? The president of the United States is permitted by the constitution to issue executive orders that carry the full force of the law. If Trump was really for the people, he'd sign that order and watch the judicial review explain to the American people why they can't have debt free currency.

Without being grandiose at all, JFK and Lincoln were aware of the risks, but risks be damned as an honest man carrying the weight of millions with your authority. Rather than judge trump by the status quo, why not men who've enacted tangible change?

But what does he do instead? Cabinet filled with Goldman. CNP. Increase in military spending. Intensities furthered in M.E. Can American afford a $54B increase in military spending?

I hoped Trump would be legit. He doesn't seem to be. These associations aren't trivial and I'd definitely encouraged you conducting further ancillary research around any claims I've made. More than happy to speak on this further with you.

Peace

Word. I hated Trump about a year ago and I actually tried to argue for the same point this post is trying to make. The fact that the BBC actually aired a documentary on this topic, made me call bullshit. The BBC IS UNDOUBTEDLY Rothschild owned. So if they had some secret like ManTrumpian Candidate why the hell would they allow that to air on the BBC of all places? Lmao It kinda just sounds like a weak attempt to make people doubt Trump and other nationalist candidates legitimacy.

Hate trump yet posts in the Donald, like all the other people who hate trump

HATED**

Well said. Association, loose at that, is not any form of guilt. This post and the fact it's stickied is beyond dodgy.

As a devil's advocate position, why do you think they have direct and convincing evidence. According to OP rough theory, the chain of influence is something like Rothschilds->Mercers->CNP->Conway/Bannon et al.->Trump. Trump could even be largely unaware of this. Each link in the chain only needs to communicate broad policy goals, letting the lower ranks decide how to implement the details. Much of these conversations could be done in person, making intelligence difficult to produce and harder to publicize without revealing highly sensitive sources.

A level higher, why do you assume that the dems would want to deal a kill shot to Trump? From the merely two-party duopoly level, assuming that what democrats want individually is to be reelected, what's better than a scandalous Trump presidency? In four years, or maybe two, they get to run against Trump and all the down-ticket candidates running ads about Trump being a Russian puppet, and whatever else he does that's distasteful. As a Democratic congressman, I'd feel pretty good about my seat and my personal fortunes.

On a level higher than this, let's say the Rothschilds/cabal/whoever are largely playing both sides. Why would they out essentially themselves, especially when this Russia narrative is working so well for them? You have the bulk of the populace polarized against each other, and no one paying attention to the hidden hands pulling both sets of strings. Plus, the Russian bogeyman has seen a resurgence as the Islamist one was losing its sheen. As an agent of the cabal, I'd feel pretty good about the current situation.

Excellent work. Thank you for posting this :)

Why is this stickied? If the content of the post is quality it ought to get the attention it deserves on its own

I think the mods now vote on a topic that's sticky worthy, they happen to vote for this one this time.

We've always required a 3 mod consensus for stickys, and any user or mod can nominate a post (via modmail) for consideration.

Also, just for the record, simply having a post stickyed is not an endorsement of the content, nor a reflection of its validity; but rather a sign that the mods felt it was of high value to the community or reflected a standard of quality (with regards to its form, not content) which servers as an exemplar for posts going forward.

This post does not seem to match any of your stated criteria. In fact, it can't even get past 50 upvotes, certainly not a poor metric to factor into ones judgment in this situation, despite being among the first thing you read when coming to this sub.

This post contains no evidence to back up its claims, and slandering the current president is very popular on this site, although you do not see it often in this sub due to the influx of t_d users. One of the new mods shilling the thread doesn't sit well with me, either.

Stickying posts such as these makes this sub's users, as well as yourselves as moderators, look daft. Regardless of anyone's political affiliations, I contend that is something none of us want.

I'm not one to call account age into question, but it seems you've literally created this one just for this thread. Why would you do that?

He's literally a nazi

Can confirm

Well, at least you're honest scum.

And you're funk from a cannon. I won't say which cannon and and what it looks like though.

Getting your main account with argume ts with mods can be self defeating. I lurked here daily for a looong time, but this sticky made me post here because ive seen this same shot play out on other subs during the takeovers

And how did you get upvoted so fast? Dude this thread is crawling with fucking shills. All the top Voted comments are shills...Jesus they REALLY don't like this post

The upvotes for the top comment are more than the upvotes for my post. I refuse to believe the sub is that much in favour of Trump. That doesn't add up. Or maybe I'm wrong and this sub is just really pro trump.

If you look through the comments, they're riddled with fallacies. No attempts to speak to the concrete source backed associations made. Fair enough if you disagree with the narrative but nobody's even trying to argue against the premise in the post.

Why is that? Why don't they want to talk about Mercer & Rothschild influence in the White House? In Trumps (Americas) policy?

I agree completely with you man. I have been ALONE for months in saying that Shareblue has pro trump shills that push the trump agenda here to politicize this sub, seriously look at my post history, I've made tons of posts about it.

The cat is out of the bag and Jones and Trump are both fucking shills. I've been saying this since day one and people called me nuts. Now, we're starting to endorse these ideas, it's about time. Thanks for your post dude.

First you're marginalised

Yo. Shills (shareblue, ctr, or any other astroturfin' ngo) are posting "pro Trump" to muddy the waters and plant disinformation, it's all a part of their core agenda. "If you can't beat them, join them"-organized infiltration and subversion. Trump could also be playing the Rothschilds we just don't have all the confirmations to know whether he actually is a patriot thru n thru or would sell out his nation and the people just like the nwo cabalists. But anyhow, even if it's all the same, this is a game of compromises sometimes. If you can't take the heat get out, find a safe space and play dough. This fight for Truth Liberty Freedom & Justice is never straight and clear, you have to navigate the convoluted field to manifest momentum and position strategically.

I think it's a mistake to think that there is only one group pushing one agenda in this sub, and pushing the Trump agenda to politicize this sub could backfire for Shareblue much more easily than it could succeed.

There's definitely a pro-Trump narrative being pushed on this sub, but I don't think it's coming from Shareblue. I highly suspect that it is Cambridge Analytica (Trump's "CTR"), or someone working off of their database.

I'd argue that posts sourced and the thought behind them being laid out in this fashion is a decent example of how a post should look. No evidence? How about you look at what he posted and actually debunk it. But you make it clear what your real purpose was in coming to this thread and it wasn't to have a discussion on the topic of the post.

Well given the circumstances this clearly isn't a good look.

if i make a really good reptillian post will you sticky it?

Yeah, where's the transparency post telling us who voted to sticky this?

It's missing common sticky traits including: several posts praising OP's effort, calls to sticky it, and piles of up-votes.

We've decided to try and keep that stuff private in order to respect modmail.

I can say that I voted yes to sticky it, however. Do you feel better now?

Contrary to your assertion, this is not about my feelings or how I feel; it's about letting the community determine the merits of a post, which in this instance, didn't happen.

Mod transparency for stickies is a good thing when a precedent had seemingly been set already given the many instances of noting a post was nominated and voted on, rather than just slapping it up there, because someone can.

Contrary to your assertion, this is not about my feelings or how I feel; it's about letting the community determine the merits of a post, which in this instance, didn't happen.

Contrary to yours, we all don't agree with everyone unanimously (we are a team). This is how we agreed to do it going forward, but things here are fluid as you know.

Mod transparency for stickies is a good thing when a precedent had seemingly been set already given the many instances of noting a post was nominated and voted on,

Of which, you should note, we're 100% voluntary and posted by me, but that was then and this is now.

rather than just slapping it up there, because someone can.

This is not how it happens at all. Why would you speak of something you know so little about?

You are a very funny man. I appreciate you for your humour, even if it isn't your intent.

Why would you speak of something you know so little about?

I've learned to take how a situation appears into consideration, rather than simply the words spoken as explanation (people aren't always truthful), before reaching a conclusion.

AATA provided a fabulous response to someone else and should be stickied at the top of the comments. Why this particular post was selected to be an example of what you guys like to see here for self posts when the Awan post already serves as an amazing example, probably should've been noted.

Regardless, I'm not the only person to wonder why this post was stickied, so the passive anger directed at me for asking a simple question are of note. My experience with you has shown you like to have the last word (I've a feeling you'll go for scathing this time), so please have at it.

You are a very funny man. I appreciate you for your humour, even if it isn't your intent.

Everything I say is intended to be said exactly that wat.

I've learned to take how a situation appears into consideration,

Knowing full well appearances can be manipulated?

rather than simply the words spoken as explanation (people aren't always truthful), before reaching a conclusion.

This is good practice. But be wary of wordsmiths.

AATA provided a fabulous response to someone else and should be stickied at the top of the comments.

He can sticky his comment if he feels the need. That is well within his jurisdiction.

Why this particular post was selected to be an example of what you guys like to see here for self posts when the Awan post already serves as an amazing example, probably should've been noted.

So just let this post fade into Bolivia? I'd rather users see it for a day or two and consider those post (and exercise their conspiracy muscles by examining it in their own way).

Regardless, I'm not the only person to wonder why this post was stickied,

And you won't be the last. This sub has a large userbase.

so the passive anger directed at me for asking a simple question are of note.

You must have a huge notebook!

My experience with you has shown you like to have the last word (I've a feeling you'll go for scathing this time), so please have at it.

I have found you get more ants with honey that vinegar. Sorry to dissapppint.

I seldom use the word never, but you never disappoint.

lol I bet you know and are proud of it... you're kinda of a douche!

If reddit points meant anything it would be apparent who won this debate.

Luckily, they are only the measure of a couple of bucks currently.

If it's any consolation I'm downvoting you for free.

Likewise.

we're 100% voluntary

Prove it.

I can only imagine how crazy it must be to have to deal with some r/conspiracy folk as a mod.

My condolences and thanks for keeping objective.

Why are so many of the mods so god damn snarky now? It's a bit unnecessary.

Snark usually has some humour with its bite whereas this is just bait to argue and/or derail the unintended topic about why the post was stickied.

I'm amused by this one as the intent, and meaning, behind the words is always crystal clear; every response is like a lesson from the disinfo guide posted on the sidebar.

MRW the mods have shill like behavior

He's probly trying to make him mouth off so he has an excuse to ban him

Yep. Glad I'm not the only one to have that thought.

Have you also been banned from a subreddit for having a different opinion?

Not as of yet. knocks wood

It's easy go to politics or t_d and lost a lot of info on how both sides are the enemy dividing us. Guaranteed down votes and do it enough and you get banned I bet.

Just a power trip. They have no real power since we can keep making accounts and logging back in.

that's one of the worst mods here, too

Theyre compromised.

Sounds like the mods are in on the conspiracy. What are they deflecting attention from?

Based on the comments defending this being stickied along with prior sentiments expressed about this sub over on C_S_T, it's looking like the first of what will probably be many "experiments" in "improving" the sub based on the thoughts of a few and what they believe it should be.

Take a look here, here, and here for context.

Who suggested it? One of the newer mods?

I did ;)

Can you prove that?

Most has a valid point.

Maybe.

Do you think being intentionally deceiving towards questions about transparency will gain you trust?

Honestly what could I do to prove it? Screencaps can be manipulated.

I think my two years of service here are enough to float on trust while answering questions such as yours in a way that will allow you to arrive at your own conclusions satisfactorily.

while answering questions such as yours in a way that will allow you to arrive at your own conclusions satisfactorily.

Saying "maybe" to a yes or no question doesn't allow anyone at all to arrive at any conclusions.

It does if you think about it long enough.

Jesus, this is straight out of r/iamverysmart

This would be more funny than sad if you weren't a mod of an important subreddit.

Post screenshot, let others decide on its authenticity

I don't understand why it needs to be proved after an admission has been given.

Why does that matter.

This sub has had nothing but Pro Trump stickies for months. One Anti trump stocky and the donnies lose their shit.

Excuse me ? So anti-NWO, Hilliary, MSM and anti-big Pharm posts are considered PRO trump now ?

Im not gonna debate the stickies with you. This is the 1st anti Trump one ive ever seen. Keep your head in the sand though

What were the stickies and why were they "pro-Trump"?

I'm a Trump supporter dude I don't feel like playing this game. This sub has been very much pro trump as it pertains to stickies since before the election. Not all but this is the 1st anti trump stickies I've seen

So you're a Trump supporter?

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I've been vehemently anti trump. Hell, I've been anti-conspiracy-theory for most of my posts.

But I don't cotton well to mods of a conspiracy subreddit telling me what to think. I wasn't happy when it was being done to push a pro-trump agenda, and I'm not happy with this either.

In a place like this, mods forcing things down people's throats is the last thing I want to see. Balancing that agenda with the other side of the political spectrum doesn't improve much.

I'm not saying you're wrong, mind. It's pretty obvious that a lot more people whine when Trump is the one being bashed in the sticky.

Stickying a post bypasses voting. Every time a mod stickies something they are engaging in editorializing. They are saying, "My opinion is more important than the sum of all users' opinion."

I support the mods 100% here

Stop pushing anti-Trump hysteria with little evidence to back it up. Jesus.

Are you guys ShareBlue compromised as well?

I like you, but I am pretty sure this isn't how Rothchild assets get treated.

Mods of this sub get special pressure, like the Awan Brothers posts. Some outer influence may have then "vote" to stick it.

Yeah use those mods I instilled in your community to "vote" if this anti-Trump hysteria should get stickied.

What a fucking joke LOL.

This sub has been completely taken over by shills. They got into the mod team and have taken it over. Not all mods obviously, but this sub is lost.

seriously?

This sub has stickied the dumbest shit for months now but because it was pro trump no one gave a fuck...... well none of the people bitching now at least.

This is a quality fucking post and it is sourced. In terms of stickied posts this is one of the better ones in last 60 days.

Word

But it ain't MAGA i cant drink no beer n fuck my cousin to this!

No, but you can smoke some crack and rob your neighbor.

Nah that's for MINORITEES!

It's curious why there is such a recent wave of posts that are so offended that a conspiracy post made in a conspiracy sub is anti-trump, or anti-AJ. Random shouts of 'this sub is compromised', and the occasional mocking of mods that they are so inconsistent in their world-view - flipfloppers if you will on what deserves to be stickied. And how they all seem to ignore the fact that the conspiracy itself is interesting, instead attacking the content of the conspiracy. Funny how some of these accounts are only one or two days old.

'fo reals, yo. I was pleasantly surprised to see this one.

Koch brothers, Paul Ryan, DNC, RNC, NBC, ABC, Washington Times, Fox, Anti Defamation League, Cartels, CTR, Merkel, 95% of tech billionaires, Lindsay Graham, Warmonger John McCain, Hillary Clinton, 100% of globalist, FBI, CIA, NSA and the Deep State.

Incredible how many pieces of shit are trying to bring him down

He's doing it to himself my friend!

Only if you believe the bullshit blindly.

Trump has done nothing but repeatedly shoot himself in the foot. He acts as if he doesn't know what a president is supposed to do.

lol

Are you throwing your hands up in the air?

Americans don't surrender.

this is such a nice and fun /r/The_Donald raid and its totally not super obvious.

1st comment pro trump - 59 upvotes on a thread with 100 upvotes

2nd comment anti trump less than 10

3rd comment pro trump +30

4th comment anti trump high negatives

so whos the shills now?

Very interesting to see these raids unfold. Thanks for the comment.

Your inability to read anything but fake news makes you incompetent.

Your inability to read anything but fake news

Fake news? So the reversal on Trump's Muslim ban is fake news? Flynn's resignation is fake news? The failure of TrumpCare, after totally reversing himself on covering "everyone," is fake news? Are you that fucking stupid or just a useful idiot? Because you suck at politics.

makes you incompetent and invalidates your opinion.

Says the Trumptard apologist. Go back to worshiping your Orange Shit Gibbon.

Blindly believing in Trump's bullshit is completely fine though.

Who said I do it blindly? i hate his saudi shit, and sessions pot stuff. I do like the rest though. Keep on stereotyping though, ignorant ass.

You're ignorant

how about the latest FAKE NEWS in official media that trump handed out a printed fantasy bill to angela merkel?

Trump is bullshit. And he'll continue to be bullshit by breaking all of his 100-day promises. Keep following him blindly tho

Keep hating him blindly when he's done more so far than obama's sorry ass ever did.

Yeah, he went golfing 12x in 9 weeks. And outspent Obama's yearly vacation costs in under a month. While he ruled by Executive order and got repeatedly bitchslapped by the judiciary branch.

Obama only signed a $800 billion stimulus package while they dove into the beast that is healthcare reform, you know, back when people were sentenced to death because they had pre-existing conditions.

But that took them nearly a year to get through, they should've been ramming it through in <2 weeks so it could fail before even making it to the house floor. You know, like the Republicans/Trump did.

Looks like it's time to sit down bitch boy. You're punching well above your weight class.

Removed. Rule 10. Further violations may result in a ban.

But Obama was great huh? You're a fucking moron

Removed. Rule 4.

Haha, Trump is the personification of bullshit! What makes you think a billionaire who lives in a golden sky scraper with his NAME on it gives a flying fuck about you??

Newsflash

HE DOESN'T

Beggars belief how easily manipulated some are /smh

Betsy DeVos

Wilbur Ross

Rex Tillerson

Steve Mnuchin

Alex Puzder

Carl Icahn

Linda McMahon

The Mercer Family

and so many more

Trump has surrounded himself with Rothschild, Goldman Sachs, billionaires, and globalist CEOs.

I don't the McMahon wrestling family figures into some globalist conspiracy.

What a joke. Those are all his colleagues in the Satanic Establishment. It is all theater for the weak minded.

yes i know these are the things that you have been told from by your bosses to bring up and talk about non stop

Don't defend Trump. He's a terrible person and even more terrible president. You posted a great post, showing the leftist ties and leftist control, but by loving Trump you prove you are not objective.

Trump is as bad as anyone, he stole an old lady house to build a parking lot for his casino on that ground, only after expensive and long trial was she able to retain her home, in which she's lived her whole life of over 60 years.

He's a garbage person, he is an asshole, he is opportunistic pig, zero compassion, zero care for others!

He mocked a disabled reporter, he did, he made fun of him in his campaign in front of everyone. He did not attack him on his political positions which is absolutely fine, he attacked him on his misfortune, on his disability. That is a cruel and piece of trash thing to do.

He's treated his former wives with disdain and really poorly, he's been divorced 2 times, has had affairs while married several times. This is again just an asshole, piece of trash thing to do.

He's talked about his daughter Ivanka in such sexual terms, on Howard Stern over 4-5 different shows he's talked about her big tits, amazing ass, great body, model looks, on a TV interview for his campaign when asked what is the one love he shares with his daughter he said:"SEX". WTF? Which father says that about him and his daughter? WTF? That is sick.

And that is just his garbage, filthy, character from hell. His policies are even worse than he is. He is the worst of both world. He has the worst ideas of republicans and worst ideas of democrats.

Hi is a big government, big spender, big military, anti immigration republican. Worst of all worlds!

Man basically anyone who supports Trump are people who never knew of him before/knew of him in passing. He's been a corrupt, heartless asshole for years in NYC and the entire city hates him. He stiffed banks and contractors numerous times to the point where he had to turn to foreign institutions. He's lied, conned and cheated the system for years. But middle America doesn't know this because they don't give two shits about New York's elites. He's basically the poor man's version of a rich, successful businessman. He plates everything in gold and has the most garish sense of style I've ever seen. I mean have you see his apartment in NYC? It's basically almost satire. http://www.idesignarch.com/wp-content/uploads/Donald-Melania-Trump-Manhattan-Penthouse_1.jpg. It's like a cartoon character. But the truth is no self-respecting billionaire would be caught dead in an apartment like that. And there's hundreds of people richer, and more successful than Trump was.

He's been a corrupt, heartless asshole for years in NYC

... and Atlantic City, and Florida, and Las Vegas, and Scotland, and the list goes on and on.

At the same time, a lot of people who meet him personally have very nice things to say about him. He does seem ruthless in the business sense, though. I think Trump University seemed very scammy. I really can't pin down whether he is a good or bad person.

I don't care about how he decorates his house, though I agree it is garish. I wouldn't respect some other billionaire more if he had some cool-ass house.

...and succeeding brilliantly.

Hm... what's the definition of Occam's Razor again?

There is a big hit on AJ going on right now - don't believe the hype

New mods added last week?

This week stickies attacking Alex Jones this week.

Not suspect at all(it is)

Dude fuck Alex jones we all know he's a limited hangout god damnit...

Between this and the forced apology to pizzaboy It seems like a coordinated attack.

I don't like it.

Jones has essentially been exposed. This whole charade was planned and timed accordingly to match up with the protest. Jones is on on this, is he being forced at gunpoint essentially or is he involved? Not sure.

Most of us here realize both Jones and Trump are sellouts by now. It's ok, big deal, we will move on without them...fuck

Jones has always warned against focusing the pedogate investigation around pedo ping pong pizza. He thinks like most pedogate examiners that the media are trying to focus the attention on one little pizza place rather than the Washington establishment.

However Saying that doesn't make Pizzaboy any less of a nonce.

Honestly this is a pretty shitty post.

The Person is obviously thinking to themselves "but why don't they hate Trump?" And so then they shove another shitty conspiracy to the sticky to make the sub another shitty politicized sub.

This is why I have issues with 'new mods'. You get a shitty new mod, or old mod, and there is no real process for shutting them the fuck up when they go about ruining a sub.

If this theory was legit, they would have been more explicit and lead in with the strongest bits of information. Instead they lead in with... a mix of 10~ hrs of YouTube and nothing specific. Typical.

The Person is obviously thinking to themselves "but why don't they hate Trump?"

My post was pretty impassive throughout.

And so then they *shove another shitty conspiracy *to the sticky to make the sub another shitty politicized sub.

Debate the argument I've presented on its points - you've just contradicted. That isn't the same thing

If this theory was legit, they would have been more explicit and lead in with the strongest bits of information. Instead they lead in with... a mix of 10~ hrs of YouTube and nothing specific. Typical.

All incorrect. There's sources for each claim. The YouTube video shows Alex jones shilling to hide the CNP.

Let's break it down further so you can just select:

A)the Mercer family are a Rothschild proxy? B)Wilbur Ross worked for Rothschild inc? C)Trump has been assisted on multiple occasions by the Rothschilds D)CNP is controlled by Mercer? E)CNP operates as conservative version of CFR?

If you agree with all of these, then what I've posted must be a plausible narrative.

If you don't, then let's hear it u/kybarnet ?

Infowars and Shareblue are convening to attack your post and discredit you. They upvoted the top few comments to give the illusion of community support. Most of us have ditched AJ as of yesterday and Trump a LONG time ago...

Why does everything you fucking say include 20 Question Marks?

What is your point, without interrupting yourself every second with a question mark?

Trump is controlled by Rothschilds.

Was that not clear from the post?

So it becomes clear, not only is Trump controlled opposition, but the alternative media that support him, his advisers, shady conservative think tanks that produce his policy and the (sad but true) worlds most recognizable conspiracy personality are all Rothschild/ Cabal entities.

Here's where it sort of breaks down. This is your main point, and yet you conclude opening with "thus it becomes clear". It's a very concentrated point that doesn't have much context. Is your point that Trump / Conservative independent media is funded by 'Rothschild's something' and NOT other or all media? It's a strange jump to essentially go through 5 series of inheritance chains of media succession without essentially include every powerful figure in the world or whatever. Is your assessment that Trump Media is the only thing controlled by Rothschild?...

If you had opened with your main point to start, it would have been a better post.

The Rothschild were wise to deploy Mercer & Ross to assist Trump over the years, they certainly seem to have acquired a prime asset in Trump, no doubt. The President of the United States is fully under Rothschild/Cabal control. A traitor is in the White House

Pretty emotional. "A Traitor" is a bit of a stretch. Under your definition, aren't there like 5,000,000 traitors in the US? The rest is all conjecture. "wise to deploy" a "prime asset" "no doubt" "under Rothschild / Cabal control"... It's a lot of filler without substance.

Lose the hysteria and you'll write more persuasively.

Why don't you actually try to focus on what the OP posted? Debate the content, none of you have even tried to do this?

Enjoying your little circle jerk? The illusion of community support with all those upvotes huh? You're full of it

What part of that post is " full of it"

New mods were added last week and they do have sticky attacking Alex Jones in coordination with him being forced to apologize to pizzaboy,might I add,and judging by this and other threads the community thinks that this suspect.

My post was a Pure statement of fact.

You're response on the other hand ...

Clarify why my 3 sentence postwith a couple of replies is a circlejerk?

You're the one who is full of it .

The only thing I agree with you on is the part about being with the mods which I'm sure you are.

Illusion of community support?

Do you think the up votes are fake?

I advise people to scroll down a little further so they can see that this is an Infowars and Donald bridge, there is evidence posted below before, as we were buried beneath all these massively upvoted comments....

For what it's worth, why don't you guys want to discuss the content in OP's post? Because it's too juicy I suspect...very well.

Good luck in your little campaign..

No wants to discuss the post because its same bullshit that share blue,ctr or whatever David brocks virgin vault dwellers are calling themselves these days,has been posting for months its the bollocks that the failing legacy media has been pushing all year.No one believes it and that is saying something when you consider that we regularly discuss the flat earth theory and fucking lizard people.

I'm not part of some organized brigade by r/the_Donald although I unashamedly post there I'm am in fact a conspiracy regular and I invite anyone who doesn't believe me to check my post history.

As for our little campaign, its going very well thank you,Trump is President and will be for the next 8 years. Its you guys that need the luck. Id wish it on you guys but I would be lying so I won't.

Nobody is buying this shit dude. AJ's time is up, he shit the bed...

Shill ass nigga

lul this is so blatantly bullshit propaganda brigaded if ive ever seen it. here you are bickering back and forth with no upvotes at the bottom of the thread and then your last shit post is at 6 upvotes and none of the others have anywhere near it while you say stupid shit like

David brocks virgin vault dwellers

admits to being a donald poster who for some reason became active in conspiracy right around the election HMMMMMMMMMMM

its so painfully obvious and you think you are so smart

My exact thought

New mods added last week?

Management does change from time to time.

This week stickies attacking Alex Jones this week.

What do you expect when Jones is a polarizing figure? A lot of people like him, and I get that, but I don't like him - never have.

My first exposure to him was in September 2011 and I perceived him as a modern day snake oil salesmen - I was interested in information, not the sales pitches for gold, or survivalist gear, or various medicines that he plugs.

Not suspect at all(it is)

I don't find it suspicious. Can you elaborate on why you find it "suspect"?

Because just yesterday Jones was forced to apologize to pizzaboy under threat of legal action today there is a post stickied by the mods attacking him after a recent mod change.

It seems coordinated.

It is - it's called cause and effect.

What Jones did is extremely polarizing, even under so-called legal threat, and it has alienated many former consumers of his who've made their displeasure known. That's cause and effect.

Its far to early to say if this has effected Alex's audience or credibility.

I dot think it will

Jones didn't invent pedogate.

He only barely covered it with great reluctance.

He was being called out for firing Joe Biggs after he reported it.

All his listeners are well aware of Jones stance on pizzagate.

Don't focus on Comet instead look at the coded language in Podesta's emails and the links to spirit cooking.

He thinks pedo ping pong pizza is a distraction.

To me, Alex has never had credibility. But there has been like with many other noteworthy instances an immediate backlash from this.

How can you tell what the backlash is like ?

All I see is a coordinated shill attack t discredit him.

His listeners are well informed and won't fall for it.

The people who dislike him and Brocks vault dwelling virgins will use it to attack him but if it went this it would be something else.

How can you tell what the backlash is like ?

I have access to the Internet & social media.

All I see is a coordinated shill attack t discredit him.

We see what we want to see.

His listeners are well informed and won't fall for it.

Apparently not, 'cause they can't see that he's just a snake oil salesmen.

The people who dislike him and Brocks vault dwelling virgins will use it to attack him but if it weren't this it would be something else.

I don't know what or who "Brock's vault dwelling virgins" is meant to be, but I've already pointed out several legitimate grievances against Jones. Do you remember his appearance on Piers Morgan? That's another grievance - he spent years lambasting the MSM but shows up on it and proceeds to make an ass out of himself and by transference, all CTs.

the only narrative here is why you constantly use the phrase

Brocks vault dwelling virgins

its almost like you got it from your boss and just copy paste shit and comment on every anti trump comment/thread...weird...

After Vault 7 dropped everyone was going on about how he was just proven right.

In regards to what? C.I.A. capabilities? Lots of people talk about that stuff though. That's not to say that Jones is never right, he does present real stuff but where he loses credibility is the business side of it to him - he scares people and then shills products to lessen their fear.

So the guy apologizes for pg and just should be left off the hook?

Especially when the top comments and replies call for this to be posted on /r/politics. yeah.

they could've tried a weeee bit harder.

Was the back pedaling on pizzagate legit? Seems odd if aj is genuine.

He was threatened to be sued for millions of dollars if he didn't retract and stop talking about it

Why would he risk millions when theres already millions of others who can spread the word about Pizzagate?

Alex Jones isn't the richest guy in the world. Losing millions would hurt him very badly and open him up to future lawsuits.

Or he has no evidence and realised he doesn't want to get sued for libel and defamation.

It woudlnt be.a conspiracy theory if there was eidence, then it would be an actual conspiracy

Yes that is true, but publicly slandering someone and defaming them with no evidence means you face consequences for it.

True. Saying that, even if you had evidence, you cannot afford court costs against the rich and powerful. Only other rich people can afford to sue, see how hulk had to get financial backing of peter thiel against gawker, despite being a millionaire himself. Powerful forces are at play here

The timing of his "apology" is what gave it away for me, that this was premeditated...

The leading alternative media figure comes out and says Pizzagate is fake, the DAY BEFORE the big protest? That was done by design...

Now, everyone can share his apology video with the headline that says,

"Alex Jones apologizes for spreading fake news Pizzagate story", and the shills have TONS OF AMMO against us now. It was all just this cleverly designed psy op to damage our investigation as much as possible, using Alex Jones by association.

Lmao. He retracted only his mentioning of comet ping pong pizza. He talked about pedogate for over an hour on his show Monday. Why are you spreading fake bullshit?

Why is AJ DISABLE comments on his video? AND likes? Big pussy move for someone who supposedly runs a site that is a "bastion of free speech"

The only time they delete comments is when they DONT want people discussion and downvoting how much of a controlled opposition shill jones is...

I used to LOVE Infowars when I was younger. Now I feel like such a dumbass for ever thinking this guy was legit.

It's over man, after he apologized for Pizzagate (the day before the fucking protest, intentional), Alex Jones is done. I know dozens of people who already unsubscribed and disliked his channel and are never turning back. This guy needs to be held accountable

Why are you protecting a bullshit artist who only spews half truths dude? Cmon man, wake the fuck up.

It does no good to use his viewers and listeners, lying to them for money, if someone turns around and sues him for all of it.

poor Alex.

What's going on? Can you elaborate for us out of the loop folk? Thanks.

alex you have mustard on your shirt.

It's stickied because it's good god damned content

Amen

Yar!

Maybe the mods are finally turning against Trump

Would be far better stickying this one which is currently being kept out of site by CTR.

Fuck off with that stuff dude...

You've been busted

U/Sagittariuscraig called an entire sub to brigade this post. That explains the abnormal voting patterns observed. New accounts that had never posted here before.

Why all the effort to derail this post? I've havent seen tactics like this since the election.

Guys we need to speak up! Whether you agree with what I said or not. People are conspiring to influence your opinion. Imagine for every upvote u/Sagittariuscraig brigaded, was an upvote? How would you perceive the content you'd just read? The goal is to alter your reality so you're unable to see the truth. Don't let them win.

It's a small sub and while I have no idea what his intention really was I don't think you have much to worry about from a small sub about the Mandela Effect.

A number of people from there do comment here, but this sub doesn't often talk about much other than Trump or those against him so he might have been calling the sub to promote the Mandela Effect here.

The Mandela Effect concept has been under heavy attack from just about everywhere to the point that even the original sub has become a troll infested swamp. The level of hate I see against it has been an eye opener. To some people it's worse than suggesting there wasn't a holocaust.

wtf? its still fucking brigading dude just cuz it has 2000 users...

why the fuck is this shit upvoted and where the fuck are the mods?

This post really should have twice as many up votes. The operatives of evil are out in force.

I 100% agree with you my friend!

sparks blunt and raises a fist in acknowledgment

Lies take a seat when truth makes a stand.

With the r/the_donald crossover going on this would be buried based on not shining a golden light on the god emperor.

came to ask the exact same question

Stop trying to manipulate this post. People can formulate their own conclusions with you conspiring again the original post. Go away shill.

I cant believe this shit still stickied

"Trojan Horse Trump" and all the fake opposition from politicians and the media are all part of an elaborate multi layered ongoing "Psy Op"...

Totally makes sense

WRONG

This is what we need. The energy is flowing here. This thread is rocking

I know right. It's tearing the community wall down and showing us how we are as divided as the society we live in. Just what they want, especially in a place that will dig as deep as this one.

It's nice to see an open minded post that questions the motives of Trump. /r/conspiracy when in it's hay day was always an open forum for people to throw out ideas without retribution. Ever since T_D invaded, this sub has gone to shit.

I agree completely. And for some reason I keep being downvoted? I didn't even clearly express my opinion on the OP's post. It's the hard truth: our community is divided. If people choose not to accept it, they are living life as closed-minded as the regular sheeple do.

Beware, comments below this line may cause cancer.

Ooh, intriguing! Is this comment intended to be controversial, thereby in its controversy establishing for the community an "acceptability waterline"?

I downvoted you, because I do not think that is helpful here with how manipulable comment scores are, but please do not take it personally. I found your comment fascinating and truly do not wish to discourage you.

Thanks! I stole it off someone who did it on here actually I think the idea is to down vote it to 0 and keep it at 0.

Agreed. They are all Roth$child pawns. So is Ron / Rand Paul, Bernie and Le Pen. Fuck Them ALL ! /s

I really doubt Ron Paul and Le Pen are Rothschild pawns.

See the sarcasm tag => /s

Not to mention Trump's great friend Larry Silverstein. Trump knows exactly what happened on 911. His son in law Jared Kushner (publisher of the new york observer) falls over himself doing articles that praise "Uncle Larry" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wEJ5EeJnXD0

This push to discredit infowars seems all too orchestrated. I realize Jones can be out there, but wtf is going on honestly?

He gets on Rogan and it breaks records and now there is a huge attack against him. Looks bad, tbh.

Like, oh if they can't convince us Jones is fake news bc he's a right wing nut, we will make it seem like he is paid for by Jew money or rothchilds and CIA?

Something strange is going on for sure.

jones has removed his best reporter kurt nimmo, he was the guy who actually questioned globalists. any researcher who questions Israel is persona non grata. jim fetzer and many more are never seen on the show again. people who used to work with jones but continue to openly question israel like the "Loose Change Group"/Luke Rudkowski or Jason Bermas are now non existent now to jones. this is only a very small sample of the people who have been booted by jones btw

yes, he is notorious for protecting Israel, like his buried interview with David Duke where he has to get his jewish producer on to shill for Israel to try and shut Duke up. Duke also falls short on naming sometimes and there are indication he is controlled opp, but Jones is most definitely controlled opp. doesn't discredit some of things he talks about, but people that trust him whole cloth are naive.

btw, being from CT, Sandy Hook Elementary is in Newtown, CT - not sure if you're just noting the change in emphasis, but there was some reason for that, mainly less words for recall.

by saying "newtown" people get confused and most new listeners do not know what he is talking about. he does the same by saying he was in nyc "protesting the iraq war" when the truth was it was a huge 911 rally. jones now pretends he never questioned 911. david duke said numerous times during that interview that they are "real jews" and "Not Khazars". he is controlled op as well

controlled opp everywhere...it's crazy how deep the rabbit hole goes

and only commenting on newtown/sandy hook from what i saw in local media outlets as it filled less space in headlines...didn't mean to infer anything by it. haven't listened to much infowars or AJ - what do you mean in your first 2 sentences? just for context/clarification

jones has distanced himself from the sandy hook investigation. in fact the only time he even mentions it he says "newtown". jones does not want the huge amount of new listeners knowing it actually means "sandy hook". they have no idea what he is even talking about. jones used to scream 911 was an "inside job" for years. he held an enormous rally in nyc that was attended by thousands. they all had "911 was inside job" tshirts. jones had a bullhorn and was screaming "investigate 911". "911 was an inside job". he even got in a huge argument with Geraldo Rivera who showed up with a camera crew. Jones now pretends this all never happened and when he rarely mentions it he says he was there "protesting the iraq war". this is once again to distance himself from the real subject and to keep his new listeners in the dark

Thanks for the explanation. Got it. Thoughts that what you meant. Yeah, he is always pulling up just short of the real conspiracies. Any outrage towards him is faux. Manufactured controversy. He's practically mainstream media now.

it is very sad. i think it was all part of the plan

Just amazing, to think of all the garbage information people are exposed to all the time.

He killed the TPP. Argument over.

hahaha. and trump then completely 100% supported a health care plan that would end health care for 24 million people, give a tax cut to the wealthy and actually raise premiums. hahaha!

Things are much more complicated than that. Like it or not the truth is that Trump is not a simpleton and doesn't think in simple strategies.

at the end of the day Trump does what they all do. that is to go along with the Elite Plan to completely subjugate mankind.

Which us why he stopped the tpp right? Lol...

Repeating red herrings don't make them any more relevant.

Who claimed that?

You, repeating the TPP red herring

No, you claimed it doesn't make it more relevant, no one's agreeing with you. So who, besides you claimed its a red herring?

You brought up the TPP. It is a red herring. I don't need other people to agree with me to make an observation. Is English not your first language?

So if you say something is a red herring, it just is. You are the authority on red herrings? Wow, what a privilege to meet you!

So if you say Trump isn't a part of the elite, he just isn't. You are the authority on the elite and TPTB? Wow, what a privilege to meet you!

But Im not making any claims. I'm stating FACTS. like, how he ended TPP. You are the one making claims, like how what I said is a red herring, which is my point.

Oh right, you just randomly pick comments in threads that contradict your "facts" and then reply to people who post an opposing viewpoint than your own.

But you're not making any claims or anything. Riiiight

I'm not making any claims. Like I said, I stated a fact and it is you who is making claims. Don't get so wound up because you are wrong :/ it's OK mate, learning experience for you :) I don't know why you say facts as 'facts', did Trump not end the TPP? LOL..

Your fact is a red herring. This is the 3rd or 4th time you've repeated it while continuously pretending you aren't trying to claim anything about the red herring that you keep tossing it out.

In other words, everyone reading this can see you are making claims. You just lack the conviction to stand by any of them

It's not a claim. It's a fact. If I claimed that fact was something.. Like, a red herring, that would be a claim(what you are doing). For someone who questioned whether English was my first language, you sure are struggling to comprehend.. Well, anything.

Ok, so he "killed" TPP (my understanding is that it will just come back in some other form anyway). This one thing doesn't suddenly mean he's doing everything he promised and certainly isn't enough to say he's anti-establishment, considering he also just 100% approved Keystone XL... so people's water in the midwest is now going to be in danger of contamination because it's good business for Donny Tinyhands... "but but, he killed TPP!" doesn't mean crap.

I love how you just struggle some hard to admit he stopped tpp. Even adding your own claim that it basically means nothing cuz xxxxxx. Grow up.

So, to you, stopping TPP is the only thing Donny Tinyhands has to do to be a good president in your eyes? WTF is this "grow up" bullshit? I responded to your insistence that the comment OP acknowledge he stopped the TPP then you get mad that I did... what is so magical about stopping the TPP? How is that the magical indicator of Trump's effectiveness/acceptability?

He killed the TPP. Argument over.

Right, such a great argument. Real dialogue happening here. Clearly nothing more needs to be considered/discussed, move along.

Who is donny tinyhands?

psy op

420D TRUMP CHESS! MAKA

This is r/conspiracy not r/cnn

cnn itself is a "conspiracy". try again.

I work in insurance, 24 million don't get aca subsidies, Medicare isnt cut, it's growth is slowed, and aca shoveled as many people into Medicare as the conservative Democrats would tolerate. That's where majority of people got their insurance that benefited from aca. so that many people wouldn't lose insurance, and it wouldn't raise premiums. Even Cbo who overestimated aca benefits stated 10%drop in premiums, of course this is just a bandaid because the adverse selection problem isn't solved. You have to go full 1 rate for everyone no choice, maybe a slight variance, or completly discrinitory on everything. You cannot say a market economy, yet you cannot discriminate based on preexisting conditions. Healthy people will not get it because they are subsiding others hugely, and if your health goes bad then get insurance. Group insurance doesn't have this problem, but single market does

Shill alert

Removed. Rule 10.

He's making his own version of TPP

Not likely. He would have made changes to the current version.

Just wait and see... You'll end up being disappointed with Trump in the end either way lol

Conspiracy is not to argue with people's opinions. It is to point to facts and you decide for yourself. It I wanted to debate, I'd go to a more immature sub.

Look at the facts then. Trump IS the establishment

I don't want to hear you're arguments. If you had any sense you'd respect people's opinion on this sub.

I'm not defending anyone who is on control of the government, especially not the president. I'm getting sick of these Trump fans saying Trump is going to be the Savior and is going to drain the swamp, because it's all a giant fucking Con

It's sad that this partisan bullshit is stickied. The shills own the sub now.

Knew this was a shill post the second I saw reptilians mentioned. He's never claimed that bullshit theory, and every time I ask for proof to prove otherwise I get edited clips from when he makes fun of it.

I was being facetious to demonstrate how full of BS Alex is. You still think he's legit ? I thought him being a shill was common knowledge at this point.

According to half of users here, "that is common knowledge," yet you get people like those who try to support him! There's obviously a huge supporter base the man has now, especially in this kind of community. Not sure why a post against Trump gets so much hate. I'll keep an open mind. Not saying I agree with everything you said, but also not saying I disagree. I'm impartial.

"Common knowledge". Ok.

He fucking markets his health products while saying some disaster is coming or they're poisoning whatever to make you think you need the product.

If you were trying to support a business model that allowed you to reach millions of people so you could warn them of the things that he does, would you be selling subscriptions to fucking Cosmopolitan, or health and survival products?

Why is this stickied? There is no original content or thought here.

Follow the money and you'll see why

Damn you Brock!

Only fools fall for these long form sales letters like clickhereyouidiot.com

Pardon? Is there a rebuttal in there to something I've claimed or do you just do a Donna Brazille and harp on about a source? What is it I've said exactly that you disagree with- happy to hear point by point if you have a genuine concern to voice?

As is always the case- when we fight each other, we remain blissfully unaware of the hidden hands.

Probably the most valuable take home in the entire post.

Trump isn't a Rothschild asset at all, the Rothschild's are furious about Trump getting into power.

What's going on is actually very simple, we have Gloablists Vs Zionists, the Globalists are the ones who prioritize setting up a UN world government funded by climate taxes - Rockefeller, Rothschild, Soros are key players, Hillary, Obama etc work for them. UN and EU is all part of this agenda.

The Zionists are the ones who prioritize Israel-first, protecting Israel and taking control of the countries surrounding them. As long as you leave these guys alone, they won't bother you, unless you are a neighbor. Some of the top ones aren't very visible, the the more visible players are Rupert Murdoch, Breitbart, Infowars, WikiLeaks, Trump, Brexit campaign etc.

These guys all used to work together, but now that the globalist plan is in it's advanced stages, Soros and Co had decided that a firm hand would be needed with Israel, as otherwise nobody would trust the world government if Israel could get away with whatever they wanted. The Zionists weren't happy with the way things were going, so they've now started to dismantle bit by bit the Globalist project for world government. That is what Brexit is about, that is what Trump is about, that is why Trump is not going along with the climate change agenda, as those taxes are to fund the Globalist world government. The Zionists have allied with nationalists, and they are fast gaining ground on the Globalists.

Of course, the Globalists know exactly who was trying to influence the US election using WikiLeaks etc, but nobody is allowed to say it, so instead they publicity blame Russia who actually had very little to do with it, though were pleased with the result.

This is an unusual moment when the Zionists are currently allied with most people on /conspiracy, everyone is needed onboard to defeat the Globalist project, it is like at the end of the film Avatar where all tribes around the planet had to unite to fight the most powerful and evil enemy of all.

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Fuck man - this guy is the real deal. This should be a post on its own - I would share this exact thing here and on r/politics - I tried to write a post sort of to the same sentiment of this, but I don't possess the historical knowledge and braun to make it so clear cut and definitive. Great post - thank you!

Basically, Trump follows the "globalist" agenda perfectly. You only have to stop calling it by the stupid name that was forced down your throat and realize what it really is: a corporate looting of wealth from the average person into the hands of the oligarchy operating under the cover of synthetic, contrived, artificial tension.

This.

Can't call it globalist. Does the nomenclature matter?

Can't call it globalist. Does the nomenclature matter?

Follows the globalist agenda as in stopping TPP, re-negotiating NAFTA and Building a giant wall?

Doesn't sound very globalist to me.

marry me?

I believe the Frankist and Jacobites preceded the events with Waterloo. That's a pillar of Kabbalistic Zionism. But, of course, Zionism doesn't have much to do with actual Judiasm.

great write up, man. i thought i knew some context and understood most everything is a front, but you laid it out perfectly. posts like yours make me feel a bit hopeless though /black pill lol

out of the available, electable options this election, i still feel Trump was the best option, but that doesn't mean he should receive blind devotion. anyways, thanks for continuing to make me question everything!

You must have poor knowledge of business; bankruptcy is very frequent in his context. It's used as a tool not a last resort.

It's the government that allows corporatist s to abuse it's power

The Rothschilds created Israel.. the Balfour declaration was written by a Rothschild . That lord Jacob rothschild interview that was on this sub last week he talks about Zionism and how they are a part of it ..

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goddamn shills

The Zionists are the ones who prioritize Israel-first, protecting Israel and taking control of the countries surrounding them. As long as you leave these guys alone, they won't bother you, unless you are a neighbor. Some of the top ones aren't very visible, the more visible players are Rupert Murdoch, Breitbart, Infowars, WikiLeaks, Trump, Brexit campaign etc.

Best laugh of the new year.

Seriously wtf? Is this a fucking joke??

Zionists AGAINST Globalism? They fucking created it.

Nice summary. I don't necessarily agree with you about how Israel fits in to this, but the rest is all spot on.

So, Hillary and Obama are globalists who allegedly work for Soros? Funny how no one can ever find proof of this.

Meanwhile, Trump gets all of his information from Rupert Murdoch, openly pals around with Nigel Farage and Marie Le Pen, and has a daughter who takes vacations in Croatia with Murdoch's ex-wife and Putin's girlfriend. Oh yeah, and he may have collaborated with Vladimir Putin and Julian Assange to leak the DNC's e-mails.

Man, for someone against globalism he sure has a lot of friends around the globe.

You want to believe your own theroy as it signifies HOPE.

Just as Trump signified HOPE for Millions of Americans.

Much more informed, published authors have already decoded the

"GREAT TRUMP DECEPTION"

Check it out on Guns and Butter on soundcloud. Shit blows your mind

I know people are split on this but don't we think Trump wouldn't have made it to where he is, if it wasn't for him being an asset?

Who upvotes this nonsense...

Oh yeah, probably the same bots and trolls that upvote the Russia deflection posts and derail conversations. This is the first anti trump post I've seen get stickied and it's 58% upvoted. Like that isn't suspect.

If you pay any attention to CFR you'd know Trump threatens the globalist project hence he is under seige. He's not bought- yet

Seems like trump is more a Rothschild asset than a foe, contrast to his stark anti-establishment, anti-globalist public outcry during his campaign. Opensecrets illustrates his campaign funders, although dark money was most definitely utilized, Hilary in actuality was given millions in US dollar from the Saudis, commercial banks, arms dealers and defense contractors. Why now is trump supporting the bankers and corporatist agenda?


I believe trump is a divide and conquer puppet. For he can create the needed resentment and outcry the globalist need. Disillusion the middle class; present false hope and intentionally have it fail while the elites scurry to cipher the last drop of oil before the environmental shift has commenced. The new world order is ripe with disillusion and controlled oppositions.


Trump is all of those things and more. HE IS THE COINTELPRO. He disillusions the middle class by siding with their worries only to reap what they suffer. He will never talk about the real enslavers of this world, if he did then we would know that he isn't a marionette.


These four years will provide the evidence needed for people to come to terms with the new world order. It will disillusion the middle class to willfully accept a new one world economic system that is controlled by the very same people that people here are against. We will accept it because it will seem appropriate and better for the greater good. But with unlimited power comes oppression.


The dems will introduce the Council on Foregin Relations member Tulsi Gabbard in 2020. This women is a controlled opposition. Of course she seems to side with reddit Conspiracy and our concerns regarding SYRIA and the NATO arming of terrorists but it's merely a PSYOP. Ask yourself why CNN continued to have her on, talking about how the U.S. Was funding ISIS? Why wasn't anyone else allowed to talk about this during the time of the weapon funneling? CNN cut off anyone who mentioned this, so why now? Please, don't fall for it anymore. Be villigant.

Glad to see the con isn't sticking with everyone. Gabbard is Obama MK2. They're already priming her for 2020.

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Nice, yup she seems like a controlled opposition. Thanks for the link. Too bad all the Bernie sanders supporters, Hilary supporters and progressives will water at the tongue for her.

If the Rothschilds were furious about him becoming president, how did he become president?

Do they have control over the votes or vote counting? Can you give me a link to info on that?

lol zionists are in favor of globalism. It strengthens their nation.

Two documents you should familiarize yourself with are. Balfour declaration and A Strategy for Israel in the nineteen eighties.

Zionists are the biggest globalists of all.... You joking me?!?

the Globalists are the ones who prioritize setting up a UN world government funded by climate taxes - Rockefeller, Rothschild, Soros are key players

Yep, anyone not aware of all the legal nonsense surrounding this stuff: The notion is to treat the world as being owned by those handful of super-trillionaires you mentioned, and then argue that any climate activity whatsoever harms the economic interests of the trillionaires, thus they have standing in courts. They use fake science model data in court to show that new startup X produces carbon, which negatively impacts the bottom line of those preexisting massive corporations. Thus they feel like they are owed damages by the startup, and to avoid throwing a legal case against every startup, they want to just institutionalize a carbon tax that will be levied against everyone and ultimately paid to those trillionaires.

They literally want you to pay rent just for living in 'their' world.

This isn't the first time superrich people have instituted such a scheme across multiple societies, it is just the first time climate has been used as an excuse. Normally there's some religious elements to it.

😢😭all of our lives and our grandparents lives and their grandparents.. time to break it up. No stone will be left unturned. All the roaches are scattering.

Yep. And that happens a lot! I wish we could have a conspiracy-con. Everybody brings their facts to the table and we try and reach a consensus. And not an Agenda 21 or Delphi method of consensus. It would help stop detractors.

Thank you for sharing!

Bannon, Paul Craig Roberts, the JBS and Breitbart I enjoy.

I hope we do not have another traitor in the WH like past Presidents. He's certainly surrounded by traitors.

this post isn't worth a sticky imo

Organized hit going on against Alex Jones right now

you think #pizzashit is? Lol

Things written in long form sales letter style are meant to convey you are more knowledgeable and have done more research than the reader. It's to create the perception of implied expertise in the mind of the reader.

People who work in marketing know, you just waved your hand, and told us these aren't the droids we're looking for.

Ah i see. So the sum total of this submission (and by association my entire posting history has been some marketing Jedi mind trick where I do what exactly? I present sources I haven't read to produce a premise that isn't mine to impress people I dont know?

So where does this leave us?

Of course, I know this is laughable. But anything I say to someone whose arrived at the conclusion you have, would only serve as testament to your hypothesis. •Aha! Classic long form defense manoeuvre!*

So then, it seems I must disagree with you and leave you to believe what you will.

You got to know when to hold em', know when to fold em' ...

Dude you're helping wake people up to reality, mega props to you.

Things written in long form sales letter style are meant to convey you are more knowledgeable and have done more research than the reader. It's to create the perception of implied expertise in the mind of the reader.

Comparative expertise. The post was not a magazine insert. In this forum, readers are able and welcome, should they so choose, to analyze that which is proffered, and to submit arguments in rebuttal.

Are they not?

People who work in marketing know, you just waved your hand, and told us these aren't the droids we're looking for.

SUCCESSFUL people who work in marketing know that most sales are NOT made by appealing to logic, reason, and thoughtful consideration, but to the baser instincts of emotion, impulse and appeals to the innate desire to be accepted as part of the "in-group" - the "cool people".

That's why SUCCESSFUL people who work in marketing can get away with selling worthless concoctions that are "guaranteed to make you lose 30 pounds in 30 days" or grow you an irresistible "TWELVE INCH PENIS!".

In modern marketing, logic smells, and bullshit sells... which is why you tried to counter OP's referenced argument with BULLSHIT.

AMIRITE?

I never used the word logic, you did, so good job making a point about something I never said.

Things written in long form sales letter style are meant to convey you are more knowledgeable and have done more research than the reader. It's to create the perception of implied expertise in the mind of the reader.

People who work in marketing know, you just waved your hand, and told us these aren't the droids we're looking for. '

No, but you used the word "fraud" or at least insinuated it. You have made zero effort to address the central point in my post- merely spoke to the tone of the argument. Rather than employ the same fallacy (or another) can you state what exactly it is that you disagree with?

No skirting, deflection etc.

The conclusions you reached were your own.

One does not debate with a marketing brochure.

And the 5000000 pizzagate bullshit circlejerks are any different? You people literally turn a blind eye to EVERYTHING that doesn't fit your narrative while you are doing the exact same thing. You're like some of your beloved gay bashing politicians who get caught with a trannie hooker in their bed.

Well that escalated quickly.

When I seen this anti Trump post stickied I had to double check to see what sub I was in.

Solid post man.

My support for Trump wanes everyday.

Thank you m, glad to see so much activity in response to it. Positive or negative it's all learning and I'm just as keen to have my view challenged as I am to challenge others.

Fighting through fallacies? Frustrating.

Ugh of course almost ALL of the comments are negative. Brainwashed people.....

Did you see Guided By the Beauty of Our Weapons, by Scott Alexander of Slate Star Codex? It's the current latest post. He talks about the rhetorical power of just showing up with an attempt at real persuasion. It's great.

I'm surprised OP didn't bring up Mnuchin. Now there's a real POS.

Missed him out. And Adnan Khasoggi. The rabbit hole is deep

I dunno anything solid about his background... But Mnuchin sets off my spidey-sense... he's dangerous according to my gut instinct... Gorsuch comes across as the polar opposite though... my gut tells me he is a good man.

Oh how nicely timed right after that Pizzagate apology, OH AND stickied, gimme a break. The post itself makes no sense at all 1/10

This . You can6 Degrees Kevin Bacon anyone . Trump is actually saying "audit the fed" out loud.

People forget his opposition is Hillary , literally a dangerous enemy of the American people, especially the middle class. 99% of Trump's policies benefit me and most of the middle class.

What policies has he actually passed that have benefited you?

99% of Trump's policies benefit me and most of the middle class.

Wow.

Well, as a member of the working class, they don't benefit me.

Why was Lynn Rothschild so angry with Podesta, calling him a loser. Hillary Clinton was obviously their preferred candidate (even if the Rothschilds backed both horses.) Trump is significantly less of an asset to them than HRC would have been.

Also this post does not deserve to be stickied.

Why did Nat Rothschild endorse Invaka Trump for president on his Twitter?

https://twitter.com/natrothschild1/status/760944501279985664?lang=en

Why is Trump's new Treasury Secretary, a Skull and Bonesman?

So not only is Trump an asset for Putin & the Kremlin, he's also an asset for the Rothschilds.

everyone is an asset of the rothschilds, everyone. everybody.

hopefully they got the sarcasm

Huh. I noticed this same post over on r/C_S_T ..

https://www.reddit.com/r/C_S_T/comments/61hgcq/let_me_explain_exactly_how_trump_is_a_rothschild/

What's interesting is that on both posts any comment which questions the validity of OP's assertions is being downvoted fairly heavily. Any comment which supports his assertions is upvoted.

Hmm. 🤔

Quite curious, no?

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This fucking sub sometimes.

I swear, it all matters on what time of day you check in.

But when shit like this is stickied, it makes you wonder.

So let me understand this thread.

  1. Trump works for Rothschild
  2. Rothschild uses MSM and CIA against Trump during his administration even though he works for Rothschild and we all know Rothschild has his fingers into the CIA and MSM
  3. Evil is currently fighting evil in order to divide and conquer itself in order to divide and conquer us based off what this post suggests.

None of it makes sense to me honestly. Trumps actions so far prove opposite of what Rothschild wants from my view point.

You're using completely WRONG logic

This is an awfully constructive argument, but anyway your point isn't coming across to me.

  1. Evil is currently fighting evil in order to divide and conquer itself in order to divide and conquer us based off what this post suggests.

Close. "Evil offers the illusion of fighting itself to create false divisions for us to rally behind"

Divide and Conquer is a good way, but a better way would be to say "the conqeuered stay conquered when divided"

By creating synthetic dialogues between both sides of the political spectrum (which they control CFR- Council Foreign Relations|CNP it matters not whose elected, as both sides inevitably enact policy that will achieve same outcomes. You saw before the election how Clinton camp conspired to elevate Trump as pied piper candidate to weaken the field? The media is easily manipulated as we know. Fuelling Trump angst at this point only serves to deepen the divisions the election fermented. More divisions - less unity. More confirmation bias to increase Trumps credibility "they're attacking him so he must be legit"

None of it makes sense to me honestly. Trumps actions so far prove opposite of what Rothschild wants from my view point.

How exactly? Has Trump signed an executive order to give the federal government the power to issue debt free currency? No.You're aware the Federal reserve is a cabal bank that sells Dollars to US government with interest? Lincoln saved America $400B during the short live experiment with the Greenbacks issued to fight the civil war. Rather than pay interest on loans from Central bankers (of which Rothschilds were amongst them) and cripple the people with debt, he had the conviction to do what was right. As did JFK.

Trump signals his alliances when he fills his cabinet with Goldman. Is surrounded by CNP. Propped up in alternative media by CNP ((Rothschild)) and raises military spending by $54B whilst Americans struggle. Can America afford a $54B increase in military spending?

I could enumerate a litany of things trump would do if he wasn't a continuation of the corruption that's passed for POTUS since JFK. Trump has not shown he's for the people, so I'm not for him.

That is some big hoops you are jumping to connect all that.

Contradiction. Please provide concrete rebuttals to anything I've said? This isn't how you have a grown up discussion.

Me: "My opinion, supported with supporting info to give an idea of how I arrived"

You: "that's farfetched"

See the difference?

Hillary vs trump. Angry people and divide and conquer. Trump hasnt signed.a specific currency order. The fed is a cabal. Bring in Lincoln. Then JFK. Then goldman sachs. Rothschild. The military connection.

What the fuck

Speak to the logic of what's been said and suggest how it could be otherwise. Merely repeating them incredulously, isn't the same as a real argument.

If you take a look across this post, you'll see me having iterations of this conversation with 15+ other people.

Still yet to hear an actual opinion unblemished by fallacy.

Try again? Happy to have a discussion on this.

Just be.more coherent when making points, you are jumping all over the place. Dilutes the argument.

Again. Nothing.

Again nothing what? I dont understand your argument, its all over place

He help veterans, boosted the economy, started paying off the debt, sign a executive order recently to start funding space colonization, you say he isn't for the people because he wants to defend the US. As you said divide and conquer this thread could also be said the same and be a false narrative to turn us against a man who is on our side. If he is working for Rothschild then why he is purposely helping America grow by helping it get higher wage jobs and his plan is to create 14.5 million more jobs in the US? As I said his actions contradict everything you suggest and what Rothschild wants unless they changed their mind.

Other things to note Trump mentioned about getting rid of the federal reserve. Also for Goldman Sachs unless we have more info you can't say he is working for Rothschild. The Republican party could am have forced him to have them like they forced Reagan to have Bush as his VP or these Goldmen Each individuals have turned or be convinced to help humanity than do what Rothschild wants and have went rogue against Rothschild.

Ok ..... soooo .... there is one group of globalists, tptb, to which you say Trump belongs, who are now fake fighting and leaking documents about themselves that reveal their nefarious activities to red-pill the crap out of the normie public about the deep state and CIA spying but then also providing a Russia narrative for leftists in an effort to start a war with Russia who they fake don't like but who must also be in on it since they fake-hacked the DNC and Hillary who fake-stole the primary from Bernie so they could fake-leak the emails to fake-WikiLeaks after which they fake-inspired 4chan to comb the emails for pedo-references leading them to suspect many of the globalists themselves as pedos (cuz why not) so then tptb could counter with the Russia collusion to fake-cover-up pedogate to go to fake-war with themselves because they have not "fully" conquered us already by owning literally every narrative and country in play, and at the same time hire a bunch of social media shills to fake-counteract the fake narrative which they created.

It all makes sense now.

So why are they fighting him tooth and nail? Why do they double down, triple down, quadruple down etc. etc. on their bullshit to try to destroy him? It doesn't make sense. When in history have they ever done this? Never. You're grasping at straws. David Brock and ShariaBlue, you will be destroyed, one way or another.

When in history have they ever done this?

In the 1930s, the Western press heavily criticized Hitler. The result was a war that made billions (trillions in todays dollars) for the war profiteers and central bankers. Note that I'm not saying Trump is Hitler—I find those arguments facile—I'm saying that wars and conflicts make huge sums of money for certain people, and that using the press to demonize a willing or unwilling agent can be hugely beneficial to that end.

How the fuck is this at the top with 61 upvotes

Read the mod comment

This sub is compromised

Really? Because of ONE anti trump post? is the donald reality the only possible one? I at least have somewhat of an open mind

Not because of that, but because it's topical on this week's agenda , and that is - Mercer. You can see a sudden influx on the topic from 5 days ago, and nobody can tell me it's accidental.

If you follow Trump's and anti-Trump posts, you can see the waves, the days they came in and the topics they bring.

It's not, as they say, organic.

Mercer theme was there like at least 2 months ago, at least.

I'm not saying OP is in on it, maybe he was just taken by the wave. Anyway, it's interesting topic, but these methods are tiresome.

You're right - to a degree.

I've been following Mercer since I saw him discussed in the sub yes. Didn't start digging into him in any depth until I saw the Religious Liberty bill gaining traction at start of March. The bill seemed so obviously at odds with Obamas policy it seemed a deliberate attempt to provoke an already divide populace. Strategies of division are Cabal calling cards, seeing the CNP at the heart of the bill should ring alarm bells when you dwell a bit on its financing.

Is what I've presented 100% bonafide fact? No, in my current station in life, I'd never possess the means verify that. What I've presented are associates in the public record of what appears to suggest nefarious intent. Disputing the premise on its merits, varies from outright denial the associations exists. The former is a discussion I'm happy to have, the latter? Not so much.

No. Saying that he is a Rothschild asset is wrong. This is probably the work of CTR. They're in deep.

We're getting a lot of complaints for this being a sticky, and I thought I'd share my reasons for voting for it to be stickied:

First, I think it represents a viewpoint that has not been adequately discussed on this sub. The MSM has been pumping out the message that Trump is in bed with Putin since the election, and so far I've seen no conclusive proof to that end. Yet this post specifically goes into details of members of Trump's administration that are members of CNP and closely associated with the Mercer family, notably Bannon and Conway. This is not speculation; this is in the public record.

So what does that have to do with anything? I wouldn't say that Trump is "owned" by CNP or the Rothschilds at this point, but I find it very important to examine who's influencing his administration at the policy and PR levels. Even if you are of the belief that Trump is genuine and wishes to drain the swamp, shouldn't you be concerned with what organizations have sway within his inner circle? Perhaps you should be even more concerned than an anti-Trumper, because such an organization could derail any meaningful reforms that Trump would want to enact as President.

I think it's important to view the world and the US political sphere in a nuanced and non-black-and-white manner. Political organizations and parties are not monolithic, and nor are their interests always at odds with each other. There are layers upon layers of deception built into the very system. One useful tool in peeling back these layers is to see who's affiliated with whom and how tightly. An affiliation does not in itself demonstrate shared goals or ideology, but it can inform it. This post lays out some affiliations that are not often discussed in either the pro-Trump or anti-Trump camps. And it should be of some concern even to the anti-Trumpers that the media is dwelling on the ephemeral Russia connection while ignoring CNP almost altogether.

Finally, a word on Alex Jones. I think it was a somewhat poor choice to begin the post with him, and he's a bit of a red herring in this discussion. Sure, if the CNP connection is valid and pertinent, then his refusal to discuss it at length makes him look culpable, but most people on this sub already have their mind made up about him one way or another. If he is disinfo, then we can expect ~90% of what he says to be true(ish), so him ignoring CNP does not necessarily give us any more than prima facie evidence anyway. My takeaway re: AJ is that we shouldn't rely on one source, even if they've had good results in the past. We need to be aware of their blind spots.

Thank you mods for the great work you do.

Post mod votes for sticky.

Where is that transparency you pride yourself on?

This is some weak as shit assumptions made by op for a sticky. People are right to be upset at mods, especially in light of recent aj events.

I told you I voted for this; if the other mods want to, they can as well.

How about mods let the votes decide the content and stop trying to shove your agenda down our throats, especially with shitposts like this?

For the most part we do. As for "shoving this down your throat," I don't think anyone forced you to click this link.

You certainly are forcing it to the top. What the fuck is wrong with you?

You spent all day on this thread. You must be interested. Wtf is wrong with you?

DAE all roads lead to rome guys????

First, I think it represents a viewpoint that has not been adequately discussed on this sub.

So your primary reason for stickying it has nothing to do with whether it is accurate information based on sound research, it is rather because it's "not adequately discussed."

You are an embarrassment.

It's a nuanced post that deserves a sticky. Haters gonna hate.

Mercer? The guy who got rocks throw at him? I thought that was staged.

Why was this stickied, There is no bread crumbs that tell it should have been stickied. What is this doing at the top.

It needs to be on the top so that all the Trump worshippers can get massively redpilled

Yah that's totally why brah. 'They' need to be redpilled

Have you even seen the matrix

Love your user name btw

You sure red pilled me man. Can you like tell me whats REALLY going on? Is Hillary really the good gal in all this?

Not sure if sarcastic or not, but Hillary was evil from the start. They're both shit

Same as what happened with wikileaks subreddit. Only takes a couple of popular mods to be seduced or threatened to start pushing the narrative.

Only ever comments on the Donald - wants to know why a post calling Donald into question is stickied. No attempt at a rebuttal, just attempts to cast doubt.

2 Only ever comments on the Donald - wants to know why a post calling Donald into question is stickied. No attempt at a rebuttal, just attempts to cast doubt.

Can the OP please explain what they mean by "neo Aristotlean elite bloodlines"?

Neo-Aristotelian (proper spelling) is a type of rhetorical criticism especially dealing with public speaking and/or single content rhetocial authorship.

Of course.

The Elite factions are divided into Humanist, who follow Platonic teachings & black Guelph- Aristotl

There are secret societies on both sides of the coin - as you may have noticed, the bad guys are winning.

Beyond that first broad level of division_between the knowledgeable and the credulous, the secret knowledge is distinguished by the division of elites into two irreconcilable factions. Beyond the sheep-pens of the believers in mythologies, there exist two fundamentally opposed views of what to do with the world, of what direction to adopt in steering the historical movement of the human species. One elite, the humanists, the Pla- tonic or Neoplatonic faction, is dedicated to steering the course of history away from rule through mythologies. The other, the /_ristotelians and their heirs, is corn- mitted to strengthening the rule by mythology, for the purpose of establishing a permanent, "feudal-like" utopia of obedient, simple-minded folk ruled by a ten- ured neo-Aristotelian oligarchy.

Elements of the the humanists (Neoplatonic) were the architects of the American revolution. Black Guelph (Neo Aristotelian) - are the oligarchical faction, that's ruled us since time immemorial. Their current centre is the British monarchy.

I'd highly recommend reading the article I linked. Larouche JR is a very unique source - check his bio out, very illuminating.

Wtaf? I've never seen that before, but after a quick read, it makes too much sense. My education is woefully lacking.

Thank you for the link.

Sure thing, glad it was of use to you. Be sure to pass the learnings.

Peace

Then, who are the platonist? I'm curious because from what I've seen the only thing that might wake people up against the Jewish problem might be a huge crisis. But is there actually an organization that is against them?

This is pure incinuation... Jerome Corsi is a Patriot. Give it up. You're done.

Patriot? Why join an unpatriotic Rockerfeller think tank? Refute the argument. There's concise enough links/ telling me I'm done, then contradicting what I've said, is lazy. I had a point- pick it apart and rebuke it my brother! Let's get to hashing.

Why spend half a day hashing in circles with you when I could be shitposting for the same amount of time and battling the lefty scum to further our America first agenda? Huh? I have no stomach for hashing, and I also have no stomach for lazy disinfo campaigns such as the weak attempt laid out above.

lefty scum

Trapped in the myth of duality. Can you see how limiting a perspective that is? Ok imagine the false dichotomy really does exist. You win...how exactly?By uniting with "right" to defeat "left"?

What is the goal? To vanquish your opponent? What then. These are your neighbours- surely it's more prudent to look past synthetic divisions to realise they are against - not us vs each other. These illusions have been designed to keep you looking here. But whilst you're focused on "the other side" - military spending just went up $54B.

Cabinet filled to bursting with Goldman. Increased intensities fighting CIA-ISIS in Middle East. Can America afford to continue in the same vein after 8 years of single digit growth?

These associations are present and cannot be ignored. If you disagree with the narrative I've presented, then that's another thing altogether. But don't say you're fine with Rothschild influence permeating so pervasively into the the presidency.

Well, you mentioned Trump without ejaculating on an American flag, that explains the brigading.

I think it's a good post. Very well sourced.

https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/61kbij/petition_to_remove_the_moderators_that_stickied/

I am no Alex Jones fan but this actually has nothing to do with Alex Jones. There is a clear organized hit taking place right now. They got AJ to denounce PG, Youtube got it trending in their top 25, simultaneously the sub is flooded with anti-AJ posts. Yes, this is such obvious organized CTR-style disinformation. Whenever you see someone screaming "CNP CNP" you know they are a CTR shill. The whole "CNP" nonsense was dreamed up by David Brock and his toxic disgusting hoards of paid shills that infect reddit and r/politics.

Now that infection has now spread into the moderation team of r/conspiracy

THE MODS RESPONSIBLE FOR VOTING STICKYING AND VOTING FORT THAT STICKY NEED TO IMMEDIATELY BE REMOVED FROM THIS SUB

These scum will bring down the last open discussion forum that is r/conspiracy. The last bastion for uncontrolled opposition to globalist world order. They have shown their true colors by taking part in the organized propaganda.

This is evidence they are getting their orders from somewhere outside the sub and that they are here to disrupt the narrative.

OUT OUT OUT with these mods

Name and Shame let's hear who they were

Alex Jones is a proven shill. Just watch his videos closely and you'll realize it soon. we do not need anyone defending him on this sub

Whose he shilling for besides trump? Because he's OK calling all the conspiracies out then adding crazy to them

This is some low quality for being stickied. The Mercer family, for one, has nothing to do with the Mercer family in the link. The Mercer family is the epitome of "new money." They were middle class at best before he became a hedge fund magnate. He'd gone to University of New Mexico, then worked as a drone for the government and then IBM.

Sorry, but incorrect. It's the same family.

Mercers father was Thomas Mercer. His father, a scientist whose research at Albuquerque’s Lovelace Foundation for Medical Education and Research was funded by Atomic Energy Commission.

Have you heard of the Baruch Plan? Tl:dr It was a proposal for One World Government delivered from US government to Stalin in 1946, created by Bernard Baruch & David Lilienthal (known Rothschild agent but more importantly - Head of The Atomic Energy Commission) Lord Viktor Rothschild had a keen focus on the plan as part of Israels "Peace Movement" and plans to secure nuclear capability.

This "Baruch Plan" was canvassed in the issues of 1946 and put to Stalin. By the end of that year, Stalin had rejected it, on the grounds that it required submission to Washington, and the Cold War had begun.

The Mercers and Rothschilds have been working together for some time. Follow the money and names.

This is such a flimsy association. You are making huge leaps in logic.

This is great information elnegroik, thank you for this. Your OP was among the most interesting so far in r/conspiracy for me. I didn't know about the CNP at all - or seen AJ covering up for it. This allows putting names on people and organizations, and drawing crucial lines around a picture that is otherwise quite clear.

Just search " TRUMP JEWS " on JewTube for confirmation.

Trumps a Rothschild yet Rothschilds donated heavily to Hillary and the deep state, which one can assume is controlled by the Elite of the elite like the Rothschilds, is actively trying to find ways to impeach Trump. The media worldwide is COMPLETELY against Trump yet Trump is a Rothschilds?

Okie Dokie. This theory is shit.

Yes, most of our politicians are corrupted individuals. Wholly bought out. This is news to you? You see Trumps attacks as testament to his credibility, yes? But you know from wikileaks how Trump was elevated as a pied piper candidate with Clinton supplied-media focus? There are factions within the elite. Clearly Hillary was the hot favourite, so most threw in with her. It seems the Rothschild hedged their bets with Trump (as they're known to do) and picked a winner. If anyone's playing 4d chess, it's them. Ross bailed Trump out in 1990. Mercer Family has been backing him for last couple years. Rothschild money and influence wherever you look. This post left out Roy Kohn. Epstein, as I wanted to keep it fairly simple. But those guys are pedophile blackmail artist who operate under Zionist orders (Rothschild/Cabal). Yet more troubling associations. At some point they stop being coincidences.

Sure. Hey where does Soros come in?

You forget that Goldman Sachs loves Trump. And Trump loves them, too. Otherwise he wouldn't had installed six of their bankers into his administration...

Looks like a few mods have that Shareblue money

Why cant we see which 3 mods voted to sticky this?

Oh fuck off. A thousand anti-clinton stickies and you can't handle one anti-Trump one?

I'd like to hear you refute the content if that's too much to ask.

We have much much better theories.

Have you ever watched any of George Webb's stuff lately by chance? Very interesting. The Tim Pool vids were eye opening as well.

Why did this get stickied though...

This shouldn't be stickied.

It's anti-Trump. Gotta get it out of the way asap.

Dark Money - Jane Mayer

you have to understand that BERBIE was not allowed forward and TRUMP was ! <---enuf said we are slaves no matter whichaway we tuurn arouund

more of us than them remember this and it only takes 10% to start CHANGE!

more of us than them remember this and it only takes 10% to start CHANGE!

I think we are well past that point.

100thmonkey

no we have not reached THAT point but these bastards are pushing us hard.... those that dont peaceful revolution will leave only violence in their wake!

Finally an actual conspiracy thread in this sub that isn't being promoted by Trumpists and Russian bots.

This sub is completely compromised and owned by Sharia Blue.

I could say the same for you and TD- but then I'd miss the opportunity to have q constructive debate on 2 opposing positions. Each would emerge from the conversation enlightened on the others perspective, perhaps even enough to have challenge d them to change.

Instead anyone jay that disagrees with you must be a paid poster from The Cold Chai Shake Camp

If your willing to a constructive conversation just ask.

Ok - my post raised a point. One you disagreed with to the extent you suspect it may be the work of astroturfers. Having now assured you that it's not (well as best as I can by saying it's not) - I'm keen to understand what aspects you disagreed with

Let's break it down further so you can just select:

A)the Mercer family are a Rothschild proxy? B)Wilbur Ross worked for Rothschild inc? C)Trump has been assisted on multiple occasions by the Rothschilds D)CNP is controlled by Mercer? E)CNP operates as conservative version of CFR?

If you agree with all of these, then what I've posted must be a plausible narrative.

If you don't, then let's hear it.

Your post itself I don't disagree or agree with. Your initial In my original post I said that the sub was compromised, not that you were a paid shill or bot. (although I can see how you could misconstrue it as that) What I was trying to say was that the mods are bought out or are being used. Although I admit I don't browse conspiracy a whole lot I have never seen a sticky post that takes a political side. The fact that the mostly impartial mods would promote yourself struck me as odd.

The fact that the mostly impartial mods would promote yourself struck me as odd.

Ok. I see. This might help allay concerns that I'm somehow in cahoots with the mods. They took down another 7 after that. Take a look through the comments to see people saying the exact things you'll read across this post:

The mods are compromised

Although I admit I don't browse conspiracy a whole lot I have never seen a sticky post that takes a political side.

Me neither, and I'm on here a lot. I had no idea the post would be tagged until it was. Having observed the sub over the last year, my guess is the mods took a decision to swing the sub back towards its origins after it began to look like the _Donald2. Was tagging my (admittedly very decisive) post the best way to accomplish that? In some ways. Something Of this ilk needed to happen- were a community of free thinkers- loyal to each other - not the throne. But at the same time I understand how so many have bought into trump. Hope is a powerful thing and can be manipulated by those who'd seek to quell a rising tide. I understand why some may have been offended to find a partisan community taking sides. Difficult decision either way, never going to please everyone. In that instance, one must stay true to their character and act from their conscience. Which they seem to have done.

Neo-aristotelian bloodline here, can confirm, Alex Jones is our shill, that's why he never talks about us.

Please discuss:

Ok - my post raised a point. One you disagreed with to the extent you suspect it may be the work of astroturfers. Having now assured you that it's not (well as best as I can by saying it's not) - I'm keen to understand what aspects you disagreed with

Let's break it down further so you can just select:

A)the Mercer family are a Rothschild proxy? B)Wilbur Ross worked for Rothschild inc? C)Trump has been assisted on multiple occasions by the Rothschilds through their agents D)CNP is controlled by Mercer? E)CNP operates as conservative version of CFR?

If you agree with all of these, then what I've posted must be a plausible narrative.

If you don't, then let's hear it.

While you missed the China connection, this does explain Obama care light fiasco. Well done.

One thing is that the rothschilds use both the left and the right to do its bidding. It uses both Hillary and Trump to do its bidding. It's neither pro hillary or pro trump.

Wake up from dreamland.

Well aware they are "Pro them". This post was about Trump. Didn't need to include Hillary to make my point.

..Thanks for the top up nonetheless, I guess.

Because God forbid he would remain unbiased when you're trying to skew things against one side and not the other, huh?

OP is nothing but a Misinformation Shill...so obvious, hope others aren't fooled by this nonsense.

Contradiction -

Please refute the central points

Trump is controlled by Rothschilds

Let's break it down further:

A)the Mercer family are a Rothschild proxy? B)Wilbur Ross worked for Rothschild inc? C)Trump has been assisted on multiple occasions by the Rothschilds through their agents D)CNP is controlled by Mercer? E)CNP operates as conservative version of CFR?

If you agree with all of these, then what I've posted must be a plausible narrative.

If you don't, then let's hear it.

I have no need to refute. If you had a brain, you could see just what Trump and Alex Jones have done for the people's movement for quite sometime now, it negates whatever fallacies you are digging up. You can try to connect them however to whomever. Let me guess, not only are they controlled by the Rothschilds but Putin too right? I bet if given enough time, anyone in the world can be connected to the Rothschilds, you do realize they own or are affiliated with 90% of all the companies in the world. I am not naïve to rule anything out, however, if Trump and Jones are who they say they are, you are doing them and everyone else a disservice spreading this propaganda nonsense.

No he's not. I agree with you're point in that essentially trump and aj are good guys. Still, his points remain. You refuted nothing.

Removed. Rule 10.

Efforts to refute this issue are not worth my time.

Oh god. This amateur post is a sticky. That just changed my whole opinion on who and what type of people run this sub. Laughable.

First thought met the first comment. Hillarity ensues.

Why the fuck is this stickied????? This is garbage. The sources do not check out.

CIA is posing as conspiracy theorists now. Someone in the office was like "hey let's try speaking their language, that'll work."

Go and fuck yourself OP. We know.

Removed. Rule 10.

The sources don't check out, they don't entail the conclusions inferred, and the whole notion is internally logically inconsistent for it would imply that the Rothschilds are at war with the Rothschilds.

By stickying this, the mods are demonstrating that they are either incompetent or compromised.

The sources don't check out, they don't entail the conclusions inferred,

Contradiction. Please cite.

and the whole notion is internally logically inconsistent for it would imply that the Rothschilds are at war with the Rothschilds.

Yes, that's what they do. Both sides of the fence, every time. That's how you don't lose. Clinton is CFR through and through. Chairman? Rockerfeller. All goes back to the top. Pay attention.

But China wins under Hillary and the US does under Trump. Check out Corbett's China NWO episode. I'll take Trump over Soros and China any day. This is flat earth territory from my pov.

Have you seen Corbett's videos about Trump? He's no fan of him either. For the record, I still think I prefer Trump to Clinton on the whole, yet I don't think that means we should assume he has the average American's best interests at heart, nor that there aren't those in his inner circle with nefarious motives.

Yep, the OP just described those behind the obamacare fiasco. The corporate powers are still trying to do what they do.

False.

Your sources do not entail the conclusions you claim they do. You are adding your own spin onto the sources.

You also miss the point. It is logically inconsistent for it would imply that the Rothschilds are literally trying to destroy the Rothschilds.

You are wrong to suggest it's a case of "playing both sides." That has happened historically but in this case your unfounded claims imply that they are literally trying to destroy themselves.

You should be ashamed of yourself for abusing this entire sub by stickying this to the top. You are either hopelessly confused or deceitful, in either case you are not justified in forcing your own opinions on everybody here rather than letting it rise organically.

Your sources do not entail the conclusions you claim they do. You are adding your own spin onto the sources.

How so? Detail, each point you disagree with. Arbitrary dismissals are lazy. You can do better.

You also miss the point. It is logically inconsistent for it would imply that the Rothschilds are literally trying to destroy the Rothschilds.

That's how it appears to those unwitting of the scam. You, for example.

You should be ashamed of yourself for abusing this entire sub by stickying this to the top. You are either hopelessly confused or deceitful, in either case you are not justified in forcing your own opinions on everybody here rather than letting it rise organically.

So you think I'm a mod?

False again.

Here's an example:

"As is Bannon. Conway. Erik Prince of blackwater fame. Oliver North. Iran Contra. Cocaine running under Bush. So we see the same necons of Bush cabinet, behind Trump this time around. Breitbart was founded by the Mercer family.."

You lazily rattle off incomplete sentences and then the sources to which you link don't even provide justification for whatever it is you're trying to assert.

Another example: you say Alex Jones is "gatekeeping for CNP," and as a source you link to an entire YouTube video which shows nothing of the sort.

You are lazily asserting things and refusing to provide any precise detail.

Attempts to popularize the notion that Trump is a Rothschild or an insider working for Soros cannot work in principle, since we are exposed to literally hundreds of articles per day constituting attacks on him by that very establishment.

So, try something else.

You cannot just speak loose conspiracy theorist-lingo and expect it to fool anyone. You are incompetent because you don't realize most of the population has a fundamental distrust of anything reported by the media now.

IF you really want to discredit Trump, you should have the media start supporting whatever he does.

As for trying it online, you are in an even worse situation. Most of the people, particularly on this sub and others, will pick apart the claims and analyze for truth or falsity.

I don't care if you're a mod or not. You are hopelessly confused and incompetent, whoever you are.

Your adoration for Trump is what compels you to post in thedonald. It also prevents you from seeing sense.

I didn't bring it up till now despite know the whole time we've been going back and forth you were operating from a position of deep bias.

It was always going to be difficult to convince people who follow personalities over reason.

However,I'm a sucker for a challenge. Maybe we ru again in a couple of months, eh?

Peace

You run away now that the facts are brought up. Predictable. You dodge the issues and completely avoid attention to detail.

You're now forced to play pseudo-psychiatrist and speculate that any disagreement with you must be wrong because it originates with a person's political persuasion.

You would rather not have a discussion about what is true or false, because you keep losing on those grounds.

None of your posts contain the slightest bit of reason. They are all poorly worded assertions with a series of hyperlinks that do nothing to support them. Be gone, shill.

Seen several instances of him acting like this, end game resulting in "LOL you posted in The_Donald." Seems to have a very arrogant standpoint implying bias whilst possibly not recognising his own biases, or the fact that it was stickied and forced upon us.

By no means is this a good write up, some of the points are of interest in their own merit but this piecemeal attempt at creating a narrative didn't really work.

Stickied for 20 hours and not over 100 points 🤔

Funny that, right?

Elgin Airforce were busy today. The Donald, god knows who else.

Judging the content by its upvotes means you're you're very much in the sauce.

you let your perception be influenced by voting bots and brigades.

150 CNP members recently signed a draft of an executive order, to protect Religious Liberty .

If signed it would create wholesale exemptions from a range of nondiscrimination laws and regulations “for people and organizations who claim religious objections to same-sex marriage, premarital sex, abortion, and trans identity.”

THIS is already happening and it's NEIL GORSUCH doing it.

It's almost as if it wasn't as thought provoking as the mods thought it would be.

but the community loves this high quality post so much! /s

There is an agenda to make people think that Trump is a Globalist, when in reality he is not, he is not working for the, the Globalists and Zionists use to work together but now they have had a big split, Trump is working for the Zionists. There is nobody else capable of dismantling the Globalist NWO project, only the Zionists have the power to do battle with the Globalists like this, while I normally speak out against the actions of the Zionists, on this occasion I'm happy to cheer them on, at least on the short term.

But don't they all share the same Babylonian NWO goals at the end of the day?

OP is a paid shill pushing anti vaccine and pro Zionist agenda for 2 years. Their comment history is amusing to navigate, gives you an idea of what narratives their employers want introduced and disrupted. Have a 👀 when you get a sec u/ruleten

oh believe me I already did

It's totally like upvotes are a real thing on r/conspiracy.

/s

Let me explain exactly how Reddit is a propaganda tool of TPTB....

xactlee.

715 points in 5 days... heh... who thought this was a good sticky?

if only it didn't start off with a 15 min video....

Day 5 and it's still here? WTF?!

This sticky makes the whole sub look ridiculous, when in reality most of the real users here think it's a shitpost and want it gone.

It's almost as if it's stickied to damage this subs credibility right off the bat when new people land here.

Good luck, this whole sub has been compromised by T_D who will say you're wrong and twist the narrative to their favor. Let the down votes begin

Lol

How 'bout that new moderation on r/conspiracy

It's bizarre. I like some and dislike others. It's a conspiracy!

FINALLY Josephine notices Olaf!

I have never understood why exactly people believe Trump is on the side of the people. For one his very rhetoric and many past actions in the business world show a clear lack of compassion and empathy - which is a telltale sign of a sociopath /psychopath. That alone should be enough to question Trump 's legitimacy (I personally do not trust people who visibly lack compassion), but even without that it just seems crazy to me that someone that is not an inside man could somehow become the US president - one of the most powerful public positions on this planet! (When the voting can be so easily rigged in a variety of ways)

His actions, even now, are pointing to him obviously not being on the side of the populace - his appointments of Wall Street insiders and members of the elite to government positions should say enough about his true intentions. And don't even get me started on Jones...the most fearmongering individual in the "truth" movement....

I do still feel however that Trump 's movement has inadvertently awakened many people, so in a way good has been done, especially if some of those that have seen beyond the veil look deeper and see past the divisions incited by his campaign (especially left / right when it comes to politics) .

The way to fight the elites is fundamentally compassion and empathy. If the people are not divided, afraid and pitted against each other in hate and anger they will become free at last.

Strange that nowhere is Sheldon Adelson mentioned. He is a much more destructive force in subverting the American Political process. More so than Mercer and has Adelson has been doing it for a long time.

He's not that influential or rich enough to be on the level of roths/rockers. Mercer is part of the top and Adelson does not have that same level of influence even to Mercers. He's like a D list celeb.

Sheldon Adelson is the 3rd richest person in the US and has been a force for evil for years now. What are you talking about?

Mercer is not worth near that much. I don't understan why you guys are buying the propaganda about Mercer being a puppetmaster. It is a MSM invention and creation. Its not an organic thought. It is all part of the MSM narrative. http://www.cnbc.com/2014/11/07/robert-mercer-the-most-important-political-money-man-youve-never-heard-of.html

This is all one person's speculation. That's like me following Hillary on Twitter and being associated with her establishment for it.

Dude, following someone on twitter is enough for folks here to claim you are part of a pedo-satanic-death-cult.

You obviously don't listen to Alex very often. It sort of puts gaping holes in your entire theory.

Dude, calm down. That doesn't make any sense. Everyone isn't a Rothschild plant just because he's the POTUS. Against ALL odds by the way. He wasn't supposed to win. If he WAS as you say, there would not be so much resistance to him. Absolutely stupid levels of opposition.

Bush. So we see the same necons of Bush cabinet, behind Trump this time around.

Where in the hell did Tillerson's name come from? Didn't it seem really out of left field?

He was pushed by Condi and Gates

Where in the hell did Tillerson's name come from?

It didn't?

???

He stacked his cabinet almost exclusively with donors (DeVos and Munchin) and campaign loyalists (Sessions, Bannon, Flynn). Considering Secretary of State is the biggest, isn't it odd he gave it to someone he had basically no connection to.

???

He stacked his cabinet almost exclusively with donors (DeVos and Munchin) and campaign loyalists (Sessions, Bannon, Flynn). Considering Secretary of State is the biggest, isn't it odd he gave it to someone he had basically no connection to.

Your a moron, trump has always been anti corruption and never needed help from politicians. this is more cnn and hillary propaganda, this is just like the fake news Russia bullshit.

you libtards are just mad and sad that shillary didnt win. keep crying and get back in line u crying libs

Quick question, can you tell me how old you are?

Bernie is not a communist. On the American political spectrum he's left center, in Europe he's centrist: https://www.politicalcompass.org/images/usprimaries2016.png

(Ignore Trump on this scale for now, since he keeps flip flopping and lying, it's hard to tell where on the spectrum he really is, only time will tell if he's a NEOcon or more centrist)

The "Bernie's a commie" is political bullshit from the corporate media (INCLUDING CNN). It's like calling Trump a fascist. Even that's not true. But he's definitely been corrupt before, hence his ties to the mafia, gaming the system financially and dodging tax, and other real controversies. He's even flip flopped on drug prices (therefore he's now kissing big pharma's ass). It's a joke to claim he's "always been anti-corruption". Come on. I give Trump the benefit of the doubt for now but to claim he's squeeky clean is ridiculous. He has his own agendas. Unfortunately they also might include the zionist one since he's friendly with Breitbart and Netanyahu and kissing Israel's ass all the time at everyone else's expense.

You need to question everything before solidifying your opinion on politics. You just assumed the media was telling the truth about Bernie being a "communist" and you didn't fact check it yourself from a variety of sources. You need to be more careful.

Trump's only a lesser evil compared to Clinton and that's not impressive at all. Bernie and Jill Stein are the real anti-establishment. Why was Bernie ignored while zionist Trump given over $2 billion worth of free advertising from the corporate media (CNN, FOX NEWS, MSNBC, etc.) ? The establishment preferred Hillary but Trump isn't exactly a wrench in their plan. Bernie would actually have rocked the boat.

If you want your taxes to go to things that ACTUALLY benefit you like universal health care, affordable or free college, better infrastructure, etc. instead of wars in the middle east for the bankers, then you should have voted Bernie. But the DNC rigged the primaries. The democrats AND republicans are both right wing authoritarians. The bankers who want an NWO one world government are fascist wannabes. This current NEOlib/NEOcon system is just a few steps away from fascism. Moving leftward is not a bad idea considering capitalism is fucking up without adequate socialism.

It's a ratio remember and right now, the balance has tipped so far to the capitalism side that millions are in poverty, homeless, struggling, etc. If you let the red scare bullshit you into getting scared of all leftism, then you're a lost cause and easily manipulated. Obamacare isn't even left wing, it's privatized, meaning it's RIGHT WING. Insurance companies and big pharma benefit from that. And we had idiot right wingers (especially republican worshippers) claiming Obama was a socialist! LOOOOL. Obama is a NEOlib like Clinton. NEOlib/NEOcon, it's the same globalist right wing authoritarian bullshit that screws over the workers. I highly recommend not getting confused with political labels (until you learn basic political science from multiple sources and judge fr yourself) and instead just read his policies and ask around the Bernie sub for answers to any questions you have.

Trump's Treasury Secretary, Steven Mnuchin, is a Skull and Bonesman.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=utD_8cRBXbM

I can see where you're trying to go with this but it would never hold up in court. Circumstantial at best. Trumps a rich business in America - of course he's gonna know other rich people. Heck, some might even help him out in hard times - trump had assets to make that money back and more. Now look at him - POTIS MaGa! That bet paid off didn't it?!

Hey touché. Alex Jones claims are something I took scorn on in this post too. But hey your right keep an open mind, might just be a shift of power to another oppressive power structure so we need people like you and posts like this. I mean this really is an Important conspiracy to investigate if we are going to be conspiracy theorists. Touché.

Trump is ZOG.

So is the Daily Stormer and all those faggots...

This is fucking moronic garbage. Why is this stickied?

Mods getting that $$

Retard, you think because some Mercer is mentioned in conjunction with Rothschilds, it's the SAME Mercer?

All the upvotes for you, my friend <3

I like this, because It recently crossed my mind that the bankers would be less lucrative with a one world government than with two -- with two, they make money with the wars. If the goal is to have two governments, it's more easy to manage and profitable - dived the whole world.

ELI5 the thread comments please? Trump is a Rothschilds controlled opposition and top comment is a Rothschilds shill? Or are the mods Soros shills?

Your post boils down to "I don't like these rich people who funded ideologies I don't agree with, therefore Trump is a traitor."

Maybe the mods left this up so we can all see how shitty their best is?

A "traitor" is always in the whitehouse if this is your criteria.

Its not over yet. Consider a conspiracy theory to explain a debunking of a conspiracy theory. How about the truth as a distraction from the truth of the real distraction. This isn't amateur hour. Step aside kiddies. Distractiongate! Debunkgate! Do your research!

So all the new mods getting added last week was just share blue taking over the sub?

Why is it ok to hate trump on Reddit but the second you post anything supporting the guy you're banned? Liberals are exposing themselves on their own, you claim to be about personal rights and freedoms yet you deny people of their right to free speech. The hypocrisy from the left is ridiculous as is the utter irrational hatred and bigotry of those on the right using this election / presidency as a soap box.

Wasn't convinced honestly.

I See Sharia blue has taken over this sub as well, sad day.

Bunch of trump tools have infected this sub. Never seen so many supposedly subversive and counterculture conspiracy folk suck a billionaire power brokers dick.

Read through the comments - I've been engaging people who have actual arguments. They tend to not say anything - literally every one else are randomers from t_D who are upset because they thought this was their sub and can't understand why anyone would be suspicious of him. Try and find a comment where they speak to the meat to the argument - feel free to post it in a message to me and I'll be happy to adresss it.

Not holding my breath. Nobody wants to talk about the actual post - I wonder why?

I've talked with you. I would warn you about drawing conclusions. IMO, you've shown that a corporate entity exist, and is still pushing a corporate agenda. Obamacare light is the proof. But that's not the same as controlled opposition.

Also, what did Trump do? He sold the plan, yes, but he stabbed Paul Ryan in the back as well. Also of note is the plan failed. All in all though, love the post. The cognitive dissonance of the donald are like the liberal tears they lap up.

but he stabbed Paul Ryan in the back as well.

Well there goes your credibility

Did you watch judge Jeanine calling for his resignation? Did you get Trump's tweet telling everyone to watch it? Did I have to spell it out for you?

I'll reply again. Bored as fuck and I'm digging this post. So now thanks to my (and yours) genius, we have a spotlight on their shenanigans. Popcorn in the ready.

As for the mods... was this a setup to take down the Trumpster, or a great sticky by great mods? I sincerely don't know. I'm impressed.

Unsticky this shit NOW. Fucking puke.

Trump gonna save us, lol.I've been hearing this for months now. Loads of people for years telling me about how evil the government is and here they all are telling me now the government is good cause Trump. There ain't no hope from this guy he's just spinning the same old shit a different way. Alex Jones blindly following him is gonna get bitten hard on the ass when it become clear he's just another mouth piece.

Great post. Thanks for makeing it sticky.

Isn't it only trumps 3rd month in office?

As a 'left wing' Green Party, Bernie Sanders supporting foreign libertarian socialist type person, this whole post is both redundant and unclear. Redundant in that people are already aware he is a billionaire president, and shares the interests of the richest people on the planet. Unclear in that you're making massive leaps of logic. Simply being super rich, corrupt, in bed with fossil fuel industries, etc does not make him completely in control of a Cabal, or a specific rich family. Maybe he is, but you've certainly not supported that allegation with this stickied post.

This post reminds me of a certain Democratic Party strategy, where allegations are made without proof, thereby weakening the legitimacy of any critique itself.
IMO if this were not stickied we would not be here talking about it. No revelations at all. Perhaps I'm being too harsh, considering how many t_d supporters show up here.
The question should be: Why is it a problem that the richest trillionaires are still in charge of the government? The debate should be ideological, that is where real change can occur.

Whoa buddy, massive leaps of logic and blatantly unfounded allegations are this subreddits M.O.

neo Aristotlean elite bloodlines

Please explain the connections between Aristotle and these presumed "bloodlines."

We'll wait.

If you've yet to come across these ideas before you'd benefit from further investigation of the linked volume and videos. Its helpful to note that this conspiracy didn't originate with Plato/Aristotle, but rather goes back to the dawn of Man's consciousness and those powers who would seek to subjugate the masses. See William Cooper's Mystery Babylon Series

Larouche - Secrets Known Only To The Inner Elites

Neither of those links are anything more than fiction.

It's just fiction.

Which part exactly?

Edit -

Wait, dont worry about it. I answered your question:

Please explain the connections between Aristotle and these presumed "bloodlines."

We'll wait.

So there really is no connection, except a fictional connection based on the mostly false idea that one particular faction is somewhat influenced by neo-Aristotlean ideas.

So there really is no connection,

except a fictional connection

based on the mostly false idea

that one particular faction

is somewhat influenced by neo-Aristotlean ideas.

Glad you can finally see the connection. Feel free to fire any more questions over.

All fictional. These "secret societies" do not exist, and their connections to various strains of philosophy are mostly tenuous, at best.

Nice work you actually did your own research. I'm not gonna jump on this but it's making me think

Interesting post. Not worth stickying.

😂

Edit: u have to click the emoji

What a load of crap pinning this to the top here. Unbelievable takeover taking place. Reddit, Digg, what is the difference? And notice the shitty upvotes?

just our friends correcting the record here (please don't ban me)

They would be mass banning if they wanted to. It is more important to them to TRY to control the narrative. They don't want us to move somewhere else. (And we are partly responsible for not.) But they are slowly bleeding out and running out of time.

Of course, I touched on the subject further down the post:

The Elite factions are divided into Humanist, who follow Platonic teachings & black Guelph/Mystery Babylon - Aristotle ](http://wlym.com/archive/campaigner/7806.pdf)

There are secret societies ((mystery schools)) on both sides of the coin - as you may have noticed, the bad guys ie- Oligarchy - are winning. There are however, lesser discussed factions who have worked for millennia to instil humanist policies, through application of the Platonic method. Understanding their mythology, will help to illuminate how they contrast and how these beliefs manifest:

Beyond that first broad level of division_between the knowledgeable and the credulous, the secret knowledge is distinguished by the division of elites into two irreconcilable factions. Beyond the sheep-pens of the believers in mythologies, there exist two fundamentally opposed views of what to do with the world, of what direction to adopt in steering the historical movement of the human species. One elite, the humanists, the Platonic or Neoplatonic faction, is dedicated to steering the course of history away from rule through mythologies. The other, the Aristotelians and their heirs, is corn- mitted to strengthening the rule by mythology, for the purpose of establishing a permanent, "feudal-like" utopia of obedient, simple-minded folk ruled by a tenured neo-Aristotelian oligarchy.

The humanists (Neoplatonic) were the architects of the American revolution. Black Guelph (Neo Aristotelian/Mystery Babylon) - are the oligarchical faction, that's ruled us since time immemorial. Their current centre is the British monarchy.

During most of the past 2,500 years, oligarchs have been identified by their support for the philosophical writings of Aristotle and their rejection of the epistemology of Plato. Aristotle asserted that slavery is a necessary institution, because some are born to rule and others to be ruled. He also reduced the question of human knowledge to the crudest sense certainty and perception of "facts." Aristotle's formalism is a means of killing human creativity, and therefore represents absolute evil. This evil is expressed by the bestialist view of the oligarchs that human beings are the same as animals.

Larouche is a good start. , have you seen Bill Coopers Mystery Babylon? I linked it in the other post.

Unsticky this shit NOW

Why is this ridiculousness still stickied? Thanks for sharing the blue OP!

How much are the mods being paid to keep up?

WHY THE FLYING FUCK IS THIS SHIT STICKIED.

r/conspiracy is compromised.

Why is this shitty post is still stickied?

Agreed. The only thing good about this post is we see where the mods want to drive the bus...

This is sickening.

Wow. What has happened to this sub?

Mod$

Unbelievable.

Great post. It's important to bring this issue to light. The fact that Trump is not our almighty saviour, and he is no more than a puppet just like the Clintons.

TIL Trump dickriders are as shameless and delusional as Hilbots

Brought to you by the Israeli NSA of "news" & social media, Mati Kochavi. I guaran-damn-tee it.

Oh ye leaders of sheep. Since when has the /r/conspiracy mods gone so far out of their way to try and influence public discourse of an event? I don't remember a single stickied post in the 8 years of Obama, how he was a stooge to the Rothchilds, but now you try and be the shepard's of thought. Not surprised.

You just have selective memory.

https://web-beta.archive.org/web/20140123195345/http://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/

Bare in mind stickies have only been a thing on reddit since 2014ish, iirc.

Not surprised that it has been turned up since the dog and pony show they called an election. This place has always been under the gun but now it seems largely controlled. If its not part of this shitshow about Trump being this or that, then it is garbage post after garbage post.

The system is still broken! All they have done is kept the initiative. When we all sit here and talk about this garbage......AND listen to our mods like they can do no wrong, we are falling into the same old trap. The same old game.

All of the elite are owned, no exceptions. Does it really matter? It would be impossible to purge all the corruption. The best we can hope for is putting people in offices that aren't shit heads.

Can you provide another source linking the American Mercer family to the mercer line of Rothschild? I followed your links and I didn't see an explicit connection. How do we know they are from the same family?

Why is this garbage still on the front page? Starting to become an eyesore

The AIDS that killed our faggot mods is back.

What is going on here? What is this sticky for? This is just a regular post, not an announcement of the sub. Are the mods agenda pushing now?

Russia is anti Rothschilde and I think Trump would rather roll with them.

hello, fellow millipedes! the post: the game

Are there any news sources that can be trusted?

Sure.

  • The Mercer/Rothschild connection seems tenuous at this point.

Sorry, but incorrect. It's the same family.

Rothschilds Bank- The Best Club in London - original source.

Mercers father was Thomas Mercer. His father, a scientist whose research at Albuquerque’s Lovelace Foundation for Medical Education and Research was funded in full by Atomic Energy Commission

Have you heard of the Baruch Plan *? Tl:dr It was a proposal for One World Government (penned by Zionists) delivered from US government to Stalin in 1946, created by *Bernard Baruch** & David Lilienthal (known Rothschild agent but more importantly - Head of The Atomic Energy Commission) Lord Viktor Rothschild ** had a keen focus on the plan as part of Israels "Peace Movement" and plans to secure **nuclear capability

This "Baruch Plan" was canvassed in the issues of 1946 and put to Stalin. By the end of that year, Stalin had rejected it, on the grounds that it required submission to Washington, and the Cold War had begun.

The Mercers and Rothschilds have been working together for some time. Follow the money and names.

You should post this to conspiracy fact! /s

why is this stickied??

This subreddit is such a disaster. So much misinformation.

Time to unsub. Bye bye

This is shit. Make r/conspiracy great again!

Why is this shit thread sticked?

Looks like the shills have taken over /r/conspiracy as well.

You want to know how I know Trump isn't a globalist? Every globalist in the world is attacking him and is trying to destroy him.

The day that conspiracy became propaganda.

You might want to look into the meaning of the phrase, "controlled opposition."

you might want to stop being a globalist shill before its too late

You seriously think Trump isn't connected?

That's naïve.

With such a sweepingly broad statement there is no correct response.

Arguing with shills is an exercise in futility.

Arguing with shills is an exercise in futility

Agreed.

Rule 10. Only warning.

OP, the main reason why I believe you, is because most of what I've seen Trump implement, is a ridiculously exaggerated version of standard Republican policy. If you look at his actions, you can very clearly tell that none of the noise about him being a supposed maverick or outsider are actually true.

There's a guy with a lot of money and extreme political leanings. He finances politicians who implement the policies he likes. He funds a major think tank that articulates and disperses his agenda. He's the financial backing to a platform that's come to be synonymous with the movement he essentially created. His two advisers work closely across a number of family projects.

This is all before Trump.

Mercer was backing Cruz initially, but threw in with Trump after Cruz's dismal primary run. Everything you see from that point is Mercer. Breitbart became Trumps personal news network. Cambridge Analytics, Mercers election influencing analytics firm, joined Bannon and Conway to work on Trumps campaign. Bye Ted! Only $13.5M lost on his campaign. Small change in the long run.. and short run I guess. During the election revelation of the corrupt dealings of the Clinton Foundation was a considerable discomfort for her campaign. Widely viewed documentary "Clinton Cash", detailed numerous conflicts of interest between the Clintons family foundation and their government service. The organisation that produced it "Government Accountability Institute" was funded by Bannon with Mercer finances.Bear in mind the book was released while Mercer was still backing Cruz. It wasn't till the support switched to Trump that the documentary was premiered at the Cannes film festival.

Trumps run to the White House: policies, smear campaigns, advisers, platform- were in place long before he was. He's essentially a front for Robert Mercer, is he not? Think about this: if Mercer has enough sway over Trump to place his family assets in charge of his campaign: why would you believe any of Trumps cabinets picks were his?

Does Mercer just fall back at this point? Having literally done everything behind the scenes to support a successful Presidential campaign, he just hands the keys to Donald and lets him get on with it? How plausible does that seem.

There's a guy with a lot of money and extreme political leanings. He finances politicians who implement the policies he likes. He funds a major think tank that articulates and disperses his agenda. He's the financial backing to a platform that's come to be synonymous with the movement he essentially created. His two advisers work closely across a number of family projects.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A99s7wbsk04

Sorry, I couldn't resist. This just reminds me too much of Soros. How many more Victor von Doom impersonators are there out there, that nobody has ever heard of, I wonder?

I just pointed out to another poster the gulf in policy on Israel between breitbart, the nyt ilk, and the Trump administration. No offense, but your theory fails. Another alternative is that Cruz was the last chance to take out the Trump wild card. That theory, my theory, holds up just fine.

If this is true then all humanity is fucked. There is no hope because you'd have to be brainless to think the Clinton's were any better. If this is true and Trump doesn't really want to help America then basically the masses are caught in a war of elite psychopaths trying to control the world of their greedy selves. If this is true then we have all been conned and manipulated by even probably the same groups that supported Clinton. Basically there's absolutely nothing anyone could do.

Some people saw Trump as their last hope to save humanity from so corruption. Some people believe the elites have not only monopolized all media to try to control the minds of the masses, but are now paying people and organizations to go on websites like Reddit to make fake posts full anti trump propaganda.

People are mostly pretty set in their beliefs. I hate to admit it, but I am one of those people that find it extremely difficult to trust MSM and Reddit nowadays. If Trump and Alex Jones really are evil and working with the elites... that's a hard thought to process or bring to light in my mind and probably many of my fellow conspiracy theorists. Mainly because of this is true then like I said in my first paragraph. We are all fucked. There is no good side. There is no one in a significant position of power to help save the planet from corruption. If this was true the what's the point of caring anymore?

Frankly, this post gives no solutions. If Trump is evil and corrupt, are you suggesting Hillary was a better choice? You're not going to convince any real people on this sub this is true.

Your post, if true, only truly says one thing to me. We're all fucked so stop giving a shit about anything and have fun. Enjoy life. While we still have it.

(take your calm pills) Keep in mind their legislation was defeated by the freedom caucus(Rand is a god). Besides, we use to be talking fema camps. Simple corporatism doesn't seem so bad. Get active, the works not done.

You have provided an interesting response to u/elnegroik' s post. I'll answer and point you in a direction. I'll reply to you in a few hours.

Check this out: https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/5rnio2/high_level_insider_an_explanation_of_the_anon_and/

It will take some time to go through but you'll find new ideas as well as solutions.

Thanks for the great link!

You're welcome. Have you read all the threads?

To be honest no, but I read through a lot of the summaries. Lately I'm sad to admit I've stopped caring about politics and world news. I was too caught up in it for the election. I'm in a state of mind now where I just wanna relax and enjoy life for a bit while I'm still young.

To be honest no, but I read through a lot of the summaries. Lately I'm sad to admit I've stopped caring about politics and world news. I was too caught up in it for the election. I'm in a state of mind now where I just wanna relax and enjoy life for a bit while I'm still young.

Mkay dude. I hope you have good time enjoying yourself! :D

Thanks dude.

"Divide and conquer"

Probably the most popular activity on the planet right now.

The conquered stay conquered when divided

No. The Rothschild are afraid the Left still deliberately raise their debt to no return. This will lead to civil uproar and an overthrow of the (deep-) government, I.e. CIA, FBI, World Bank, and the remaining private companies whom own this country.

If Trump and Jones are puppets it is surely a sign that their plan is in serious danger. Both have exposed and done way too much that is counterproductive to their plans. They would have to be very desperate and worried to push anyone like those two.

Holy crap, what is going on with this sub?

Why is this shilly shit stickied??????????????

eddit at it again

Reptilians? Youre confusing David Icke with Alex Jones. Disinfo thread

this is great troll you almost had me there.

Why the fuck is this stickied? Fuckin mods.

Mods sticking this stretch of a conspiracy theory is showing where their agenda lies.

Wow, a Trump conspiracy on /r/conspiracy. Never thought I'd see the day

I appreciate you looking into this, and yes, I post on the_donald and am a Trump supporter, but I am not the kind who is deaf-eared to any criticism.

However, I honestly do not think this is enough evidence to make such a sweeping claim.

I am a conspiracy theorist before I am a Trump supporter but I have yet to see anything truly stand up to scrutiny that says he is co-opted by TPTB.

Be interested to any further proof, but a loose connection between a few disparate organisations is not comprehensive proof.

Did you get Massi's reply to Trump? Sorry to say this, but to a certain extent, Trump is a glorified sales person. Love the guy and the revolution, but corporatism is still a thing.

but a loose connection between a few disparate organisations is not comprehensive proof

Why do you think the connection "between a few disparate organisations" is loose? Have you read the links, have you looked up some more?

There's a guy with a lot of money and extreme political leanings. He finances politicians who implement the policies he likes. He funds a major think tank that articulates and disperses his agenda. He's the financial backing to a platform that's come to be synonymous with the movement he essentially created. His two advisers work closely across a number of family projects.

This is all before Trump.

Mercer was backing Cruz initially, but threw in with Trump after the formers dismal primary run. Everything you see from that point is Mercer. Breitbart became Trumps personal news network. Cambridge Analytics, Mercers election influencing analytics firm, joined Bannon and Conway to work on Trumps campaign. Bye Ted! Only $13.5M lost on his campaign. Small change in the long run.. and short run I guess. During the election revelation of Clinton Foundation's corrupt dealings was a source of considerable discomfort for her campaign. Widely viewed documentary "Clinton Cash", detailed numerous conflicts of interest between the Clintons family foundation and their government service. The organisation that produced it "Government Accountability Institute" was funded by Bannon with Mercer finances.Bear in mind the book was released while Mercer was still backing Cruz. It wasn't till the support switched to Trump that the documentary was premiered at the Cannes film festival. Mercer attended on his yacht - SeaOwl

Trumps run to the White House: policies, smear campaigns, advisers, platform- were in place long before he was. He's essentially a front for Robert Mercer, is he not? Think about this: if Mercer has enough sway over Trump to place his family assets in charge of his campaign: why would you believe any of Trumps cabinets picks were his?

Does Mercer just fall back at this point? Having literally done everything behind the scenes to support a successful Presidential campaign, he just hands the keys to Donald and lets him get on with it? How plausible does that seem.

Everything you've read is independently verifiable. Your request for "proof" is illogical as you know it can never be fulfilled. Your decision to support Trump was made with the same "proof" that's been presented in the post -media sources, why isn't that enough now? Both sides are owned, that's always been the case. Trump is no different.

Trump is a preemptive strike by the establishment to stem the growing flow of anti globalism in the western world

This place has been shilled

Eeeyup. The logic here is: "LOOK AT THIS FAMILY WEVE NEVER PAID ATTENTION TO BEFORE! HOW SKETCHY IS THAT? EDUCATE YOURSELF DRUMPFKIN!"

Lawd. Please tell me ShareBlue isn't college degree required.

why is this still stickied.

Why is this sticked

No. I believe in ask those things. I just think Alex Jones is a egomaniac trying to cash in on gullible people's fears.

7 days a cuck

So this is stickied to give the appearance that is an anti-Trump conspiracy narrative. But this is nonsense, yes Robert Mercer funded brietbart news from the beginning as well as the investigative journalists that outed Hillary. He also is apparently maybe acquainted with a Rothschild but he was a software programmers that wrote and got rich off a candlesticking type stock price prediction software. All the connections between him and Trump are well known, him and his daughter were he first to take full advantage of citizens united and pretty much bought this election. There's your conspiracy, and the funny thing is that the links you provided prove it.

why do we have pathetic mods like this? just go back to CTR

You knows it's getting bad when Anit Donald trump is getting stickied, are you guys woke now?

A very interesting read here. My viewpoint of Trump, as someone who voted for him, is mixed because of sources such as these. I always try to keep an open mind as a conservative, so I will have to wait and see what else Trump does before I officially denounce him as a Rothschild puppet. With him coming out against the Freedom Caucus with the slimeball Paul Ryan, I'm starting to have my doubts.

You are fucking stupid.

Holy crap this shit was finally unstickied. I wonder narrative elnegroik will try to push next.

Your tears only serve to hydrate me anon. Weep on.

The only one upset here is you lol. Otherwise why did you unsticky it?

I made a video stating exactly why trump is in Syria. 100% Rothschilds

https://youtu.be/-b3AHBxLdmw

You made that?? Good job. Well presented.

I often scroll the comments before replying.

The fact that most of these comments are attacking OP without a single argument makes me think he's having good points.

Character assassination is always a good policy when there's no chance for an intelligent rebuttal...

Get your facts and logical thinking out of here, this is a left wing circle jerk and you aren't invited.

Lol right? The whole Awann brothers scandal has everything to do with this opposition against trump. Idk maybe mods are trying to equal it out.

You're talk about a long-con while (((they))) are laughing about the meta-con. The bigger picture behind the synthetic right-left divide is the synthetic CFR-CNP divide, two groups funded by same ppl with the goal of keeping the public Balkanized by extreme policy positions (((they))) put forward, and therefore suppressed from uniting against their overlords, independent of silly policy distinctions.

What might unite us? I suggested this earlier as an idea.

This post is a demoralization attempt. We already know alex jones is probably a limited hangout. Using him to loosely connect trump with the rothschilds is seriously low-energy.

Maybe it's even easier for destruction to flourish in an environment where the perception is TPTB are opposing the destruction team when in actuality they are part of it.

Wrong. It gives it more credibility. This sub may be the most important forum in the world right now. The mods here have brains, courage and honesty.

Psy Op.

Alright. Can you provide some reasoning instead of downvoting every post that ruffles your feathers?

Because those that rule over you play both sides in order to keep you thoroughly divided. They financed both sides of two world wars centrally located in Europe.

I don't think the EU is anything but a ploy to keep the monetary system under the thumb of the iron bank. But the dynamics of the monetary system are rapidly changing. The EU is crumbling while countries like Italy, Spain and Greece are selling off assets in order to stave off defaults.

The inevitability of an EU collapse was always part of the playbook. That money eventually had to go back to the banks.

Why would they want to support someone that is blatantly anti-NWO and wants to disassemble the European Union which is the Rothschilds "dream" long term project?

Because the rules of the game have changed. Strong EU and strong euro currency is not wished for anymore. Unless a miracle happens, the US dollar will soon end its life as "reserve currency," see the graphics here and read about the life-cycle of world reserve currencies here.

The reserve currency transition is a cycle that has typically lasted in history somewhere between 80 to 110 years. Officially, the US dollar has been the reserve currency for 68 years. However, the US dollar was used in trade much before, since the 1920s, in fact. That would put the US dollar closer to 90+ years as the reserve currency.

It has happened many times before. "They" cycle through countries about once every hundred years. When the debt is unbearably high, "they" crash the system and move on to the next country. Parasites.

Once again and slowly: unless an economic miracle happens, the US dollar is going to crash down. Trump might have been hired to do exactly that.

Well one of our new mods is here posting without the mod identifier I wonder if they voted to sticky? Not only voting to sticky but here defending the post somewhat incognito. No nothing unusual here at all.

And blatantly pro-1st & 2nd amendment too, which is a good sign. That's why I don't buy the "he's one of them and he will lose" narrative on this sub during the election cycle - obviously Jeb was the controlled opposition. If they already had Jeb, why Trump ?

You asked a question with a question?

I wondered about that.

The real conspiracy is this sticky. The establishment hates Trump and are using CTR, the deep state, the neocons and Cold War like propaganda to attempt to take him down

We can interact as community members too, you know.

We typically try and only flair up when answering a question from a mod perspective or performing a moderator action.

At least that's how I understood it to work.

speak for yourself "literally a nazi". no insult btw. it is actually your user name.

Which us why he stopped the tpp right? Lol...

Serious? You da boss. Sorry

It's not a claim. It's a fact. If I claimed that fact was something.. Like, a red herring, that would be a claim(what you are doing). For someone who questioned whether English was my first language, you sure are struggling to comprehend.. Well, anything.

I know lol I saw it

Dude fuck Alex jones we all know he's a limited hangout god damnit...

Ok- please explain.

it is not substantial enough to even warrant a post if you intend on drawing the conclusion that you have.

I'm listening. How would you explain the connections and associations presented? You've accepted they're not in fact false, yes? Checked each source etc

"I believe Trumps relationship with These individuals to demonstrate his unsuitability for office on account of the undue influence Rothschild capital has on his him."

You've said you agree the sources are legitimate, so it's the narrative that raises your ire?

Jones has essentially been exposed. This whole charade was planned and timed accordingly to match up with the protest. Jones is on on this, is he being forced at gunpoint essentially or is he involved? Not sure.

Most of us here realize both Jones and Trump are sellouts by now. It's ok, big deal, we will move on without them...fuck

Honestly this is a pretty shitty post.

The Person is obviously thinking to themselves "but why don't they hate Trump?" And so then they shove another shitty conspiracy to the sticky to make the sub another shitty politicized sub.

This is why I have issues with 'new mods'. You get a shitty new mod, or old mod, and there is no real process for shutting them the fuck up when they go about ruining a sub.

If this theory was legit, they would have been more explicit and lead in with the strongest bits of information. Instead they lead in with... a mix of 10~ hrs of YouTube and nothing specific. Typical.

Enjoying your little circle jerk? The illusion of community support with all those upvotes huh? You're full of it

I think you just undid their assertion that Trump isn't simply a politically inept but free agent

Things written in long form sales letter style are meant to convey you are more knowledgeable and have done more research than the reader. It's to create the perception of implied expertise in the mind of the reader.

People who work in marketing know, you just waved your hand, and told us these aren't the droids we're looking for. '

No, but you used the word "fraud" or at least insinuated it. You have made zero effort to address the central point in my post- merely spoke to the tone of the argument. Rather than employ the same fallacy (or another) can you state what exactly it is that you disagree with?

No skirting, deflection etc.

I never said I like the policies of world government. I simply provided a counter-example to your argument. You said the left should love him, but it's evident in the past that the left despises all conservative presidents, including people who we generally know as part of TPTB.

Granted, there is an even greater push against Trump, which is something we need to consider. It's worse than it's ever been before.

Removed. Rule 10.

Why did Nat Rothschild endorse Invaka Trump for president on his Twitter?

https://twitter.com/natrothschild1/status/760944501279985664?lang=en

Why is Trump's new Treasury Secretary, a Skull and Bonesman?

My exact thought

New mods added last week?

Management does change from time to time.

This week stickies attacking Alex Jones this week.

What do you expect when Jones is a polarizing figure? A lot of people like him, and I get that, but I don't like him - never have.

My first exposure to him was in September 2011 and I perceived him as a modern day snake oil salesmen - I was interested in information, not the sales pitches for gold, or survivalist gear, or various medicines that he plugs.

Not suspect at all(it is)

I don't find it suspicious. Can you elaborate on why you find it "suspect"?

I thought the upper echelon of free Mason was illuminati and they have the rest of the order working against what they think.

I told you I voted for this; if the other mods want to, they can as well.

What the hell are you talking about. Trump is the most elitist, tied to the NWO president we have ever had.

I don't believe any President is a champion of the people unless you measure the "people" by wealth.

So the guy apologizes for pg and just should be left off the hook?

Keep hating him blindly when he's done more so far than obama's sorry ass ever did.

Hegelian Dialectic. You have to control both opposing forces (thesis and antithesis) in order do control the result (the synthesis)

If it's any consolation I'm downvoting you for free.

He's been a corrupt, heartless asshole for years in NYC

... and Atlantic City, and Florida, and Las Vegas, and Scotland, and the list goes on and on.

But Obama was great huh? You're a fucking moron

Jon Mcaine lmfao

Jews you mean? We aren't dumb.

YOUR nation, YOUR culture. I'm not fucking involved with that shitty mindset one bit. You own it, you go down when it falls into oblivion soon enough. You can't halt progress forever.

What do people age quickly in russia where you live?? Maybe it's because your bullshit leader putin makes things so bad you only live to be 40. Fuck your gov, you and the rest of your people are awesome and i feel bad for ya.

THIS IS GOLDEN AHAHAHA

Democrats have strategically done their best to keep as many black people in poverty as possible. Intentionally breaking up families, promoting/condoning and CREATING "thug culture", incentivizing young girls to have kids with no father. The democrats never stopped being the racist KKK party, they just got sneaker about it.

When Trump won and the first policy outline he released was "New Deal for Black America", reading it and seeing that he was planning on addressing damn near every sneaky bullshit that the democrats have put in place since the 60s (Fuck LBJ), I honestly teared up. I felt like such a pussy but, knowing that he saw the problems, intended on trying to fix them and would inevitably catch hell and be labeled a "racist" for even trying. I.e Forcing banks to stop denying black people business loans.

Hell, he's already given 5x more money to historical black colleges than our previous president.

Wall beginning soon: http://www.northcrane.com/2017/01/04/it-begins-donald-trump-notifies-border-patrol-to-prepare-for-wall-construction/

We never supported Ryancare it's all fake news by the left to make it look like Trump was defeated: http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/03/27/alabama-republican-rep-mo-brooks-introduces-one-line-bill-to-repeal-obamacare/

Travel ban happening soon: http://www.lifezette.com/polizette/13-states-rally-support-trump-travel-ban/

And yesterday Sessions laid out the penalties for sanctuary cities, so another promise about to be fulfilled, the US can only take so much winning, bro!! MAGA!

Hard finding good people he trusts in the centre of a swamp.

That would make a little more sense.

That's fine and all, but why the hell should anyone trust you over him? You provided no supporting information, no sources, nothing but your own opinion and rhetorical questions meant to mock the other person's position. All this does is muddy the waters for others and leaves them not sure who to believe.

That is what I meant when I said provide the knowledge that they are missing. Don't just argue for the sake of arguing.

if only half of the stuff about trump is real, but also half of the stuff about clinton, then you should still be a trump supporter over her.

Practically speaking, just look at where most of the wealth in the Western word is concentrated, particularly the US. Nearly all the media in the world is owned by Jews. Rothschild family alone owns nearly every central bank in the world. The US will send $38 billion in military aid to Israel over the next 10 years. Zionists exert their power way beyond Israeli borders. Israel holds significant power over US foreign policy. It also enforces legal crackdown on Israel-protesters in Western countries.

Source: https://theintercept.com/2016/02/16/greatest-threat-to-free-speech-in-the-west-criminalizing-activism-against-israeli-occupation/

Also the book The Globalization of Israel: McWorld in Tel-Aviv, Jihad in Jerusalem.

For more theoretical readings, look at Marx ("On the Jewish Quesion"), Spinoza (Tractatus Theologico-Politicus).

Educate yourself if you claim to be a fan of conspiracies...

MEET ROBERT MERCER, THE MYSTERIOUS BILLIONAIRE BENEFACTOR OF BREITBART

http://www.newsweek.com/2016/12/02/robert-mercer-trump-donor-bannon-pac-523366.html

Turn on the news, it's a huge split, it's all out war at the top

Podesta/Soros/"the machine", etc. etc. etc. Your main mistake is thinking that there isn't a warring faction of oligarchs on the right that now have their own compliant puppet in the White House.

While dealings with Russians seems like petty incompetent corruption from the Trump camp, he is beholden to the Heritage Foundation, the Zionists, Saudi Arabia, the military industrial complex, the bankers, big pharma, big oil, etc. All this is clear from just looking at his actions in his first 100 days in office.

Even if the Soros Deep State is out to get him so the left can finally install sharia law in the US (xenophobia worked wonders for him during the 2016 elections), Trump is an incompetent swindler beholden to his own set of handlers. The Russia thing is juicier because he could even be under blackmail from a Russian Honey Trap.

None of these things are ever going to happen or by the time they do, it'll be too late anyway.

Especially when the top comments and replies call for this to be posted on /r/politics. yeah.

they could've tried a weeee bit harder.

Unsticky this shit NOW

How much are the mods being paid to keep up?

Remove this thread of you ACTUALLY care.

How about pulling out of the TPP? That is a big one for me. In general, replacing multinational trade agreements with bilateral agreements is a massive change in the status quo.

How many full time employees does it take for you to get 14 upvotes? You have got to have reddit pumping your upvote totals. There is no way 200 of you guys are sitting in a building just upvoting each other on this sub.

Trump is the closest thing you'll ever have to a third party candidate. Republicans fought his election bid just as fervently as the Democrats.

Lmao. He retracted only his mentioning of comet ping pong pizza. He talked about pedogate for over an hour on his show Monday. Why are you spreading fake bullshit?

Guaranteed this is cointelpro and is used to poison the well. Dont think anyone in real life could be this stupid

I am almost positive this is exactly what we're seeing. Weak attempt though. You would think they'd be better at it.

Damn you Brock!

I wish there was a "climate tax," assuming he actually means a carbon tax.

What's sad is that he's already giving Trump the credit for repealing a nonexistent tax. Mission accomplished?

That post wasn't informative at all...

Yeh. Another sub bites the dust.

THIS

THIS

And I know DR was 101 but kind of funny how he happened to die just now.

And what percent of those are successful and what percent of the GDP do those make up?

it is very sad. i think it was all part of the plan

Shit is getting suspect in here.

HIGHLY!

How did Obama "fuck up the health care industry" and how has Trump tried to fix it?

All I see is a shitty failed replacement plan he co-authored that pretty much embodied all the fake lies the paid corporate shill politicians said about Obamacare and Trump pointing fingers at Ryan for taking all the blame when people realised how shit it was.

Wait - Obama "fucked up the healthcare industry" AND he also didn't make it worse than it was before? You can't have it both ways. Sounds like you just don't like Obama because feelings.

...I think he's being sarcastic....

If they have an anti-Trump agenda they are doing a really shitty job. LOL

He's bringing back jobs to the US

dude......cmon now

however, insulting people like myself, does not further your cause

i don't care and I don't have a cause. it's not my job to joyously sing/teach things to you with sugar and sprinkles like mary poppins or something.

Mercer

Educate yourself

http://www.npr.org/2017/03/22/521083950/inside-the-wealthy-family-that-has-been-funding-steve-bannon-s-plan-for-years

And eventually, it ended up with their being a piece in The Wall Street Journal where Magerman spoke out about what Bob Mercer thinks politically. And it had been very hard for people outside of the firm to know what Bob Mercer's agenda was and why he was getting so involved in politics. And Magerman kind of spilled the beans.

He said that Mercer wanted to shrink the government to the size of a pinhead and that he doesn't think that - he basically has a philosophy, according to Magerman, that values people on the basis of what they earn. He doesn't think human beings have intrinsic value. He thinks that if you are a schoolteacher and you earn 2 million times less than Mercer earns, then you're 2 million times less valuable than Mercer is. And he believes that if you are on welfare, you have negative value. And what Magerman said was, and he's not talking about economically. He means as a human being.

Removed. Rule 4.

Nice 23 day old account my man. Funny how you all come out of the woodwork trying to sow dissent and mistrust whenever new mods are added. Do you have any evidence for any of your assertions, or even arguments supporting them? Or are you just trying to stir shit?

Did you get Massi's reply to Trump? Sorry to say this, but to a certain extent, Trump is a glorified sales person. Love the guy and the revolution, but corporatism is still a thing.

Do you think I care about a stranger on the internet calling me a snowflake? You couldn't have made me feel more vindicated if I payed you to prove me right. You failed reading comprehension, and when I pointed out how, all you could throw back was another post proving my OP was justified.

All of those things link to trump too. Why people ignore this I will never know.

He says he will bring back manufacturing jobs, and maybe that's true to an extent. But we're still going to have a lot of stuff made overseas.

Also, where does the money for climate taxes go? I am not trying to argue, I just have a question.

Many people in Obama's cabinet were "suggested"by CitiBank, weren't they?

Who knows if you can trust Trump? He gives the CIA more drone powers, yet they seem opposed to him. It's a very foggy situation!

At the same time, a lot of people who meet him personally have very nice things to say about him. He does seem ruthless in the business sense, though. I think Trump University seemed very scammy. I really can't pin down whether he is a good or bad person.

I don't care about how he decorates his house, though I agree it is garish. I wouldn't respect some other billionaire more if he had some cool-ass house.

Trey Gowdy 2024?

but a loose connection between a few disparate organisations is not comprehensive proof

Why do you think the connection "between a few disparate organisations" is loose? Have you read the links, have you looked up some more?

oh believe me I already did

Your tears only serve to hydrate me anon. Weep on.

Do you know what book is also prophetic? "The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion".