Oh you mean the most reputable and trustworthy publishing agency wikileaks.org?
Your rule is little more than an excuse to censor people. I don't believe you're serious.
Why? So I satisfy your conformistic logic? I will not do that. Go and do that for us please, we will wait. Want to prove something? - I will not gather the resources for you. Please go do that yourself.
Meh... Wikileaks is a gatekeeper organization... The leaks are well timed and also scrubbed to hide the true criminality that exists within our "leadership."
I think that setting rules for the citation of media is a dangerous thing... goes back to the whole "fake news" campaign... who is the judge of real/fake news? I can tell you right now that I don't trust a system that will judge these things for me.
Mario, the MSM has outed themselves to anybody paying attention, particularly in the area of economics. We could start with their blatant cheerleading of the nonesuch "recovery" - by neglecting to inform readers of "seasonal adjustments" within GDP reporting. If you have ever read real estate articles, you might be aware of how they passed off false data from NAR (which has more greater fools paying for the privilege of living in smaller spaces). To me, though, the most eggregious example of MSM absolutely obfuscating truth is their "critiques" of ZIRP "stimulus" in our economy - particularly its effect on senior citizens, and those who live off of interest and fixed incomes. This group of people (and savers in general) have been eviscerated by ZIRP policy, with nary a peep from the MSM about its destructive effects.
Economic reporting has been the greatest redpill regarding the truth of MSM since 2007.
Sounds like a bad idea. People can downvote posts. We don't need more power tripping mods destroying our freedom to be stupid and learn from our mistakes. /r/conspiracy is valuable because we can post whatever we want and then vote on posts.
It used to be the case that if a mainstream article was posted here on /r/conspiracy, the comment section would reliably rip it apart and provide better context than any article could. Now we get bot comments and misdirection burying whatever sensible things real people come up with.
So in that sense, mainstream articles have a place on this sub; as a target for our criticism. However these days it's more likely to be held up and used to divide us. Fucking shills.
You know how Police Stations tag pedophiles to warn their citizens ? That is the type of tag I'm interested in. Once your cover is blown like in the CNN case, you should get a lifetime label.
I wouldn't object to a ban of the big players in msm. Fox, Cnn, NPR, ABC, NBC. I think they are often dangerous propaganda. And aside from that, I don't come here to get the stuff I can easily find on TV. That is opposite the reason I come here, their material is fundamentally inappropriate for this sub.
I personally support never reading fox cnn abc nbc, but I wouldn't ban things. NPR is different in that there is potential for the NPR to be a public resource. After all it's supposed to be accountable to citizens who fund it right?
Whoa scary communism! Public broadcasting!!! With reform, it can work.
NPR is my favorite radio station outside of election season, I have even maintained a membership in the past. They have unfortunately proved themselves to be willing participants in propaganda this year. So I consider them compromised in the same way as RT and will no longer continue to support them. I will also encourage any effort to defund them.
I was also surprised that Democracy Now covered all the weird Soros funded angles, and rarely if ever covers the fact that America has funded ISIS and al Qaida.
Amy Goodman is still trustworthy, but their funding model is lacking if they can't stand independent from their big name sponsors.
I think NPR is a thinly veiled agent of Soros now. And now I wonder how long that has been the case, and what else they slipped in before the relationship was so obvious. Because good propaganda is subtle. It is only obvious now because we have this divergent reality going on to discern the irregularities. What did I let them put in my mind before I was this suspicious of them?
I come here to read any and all articles. I don't want someone with an egenda choosing what im able to watch/read/listen.
Who do you think is worthy enough to spoenfeed us the right material? I dont trust anyone to do that. Thsts MY job to choose whats right and whats not.
I've posted this before, all forms of Media is compromised, to think otherwise would be naive and foolish, truth is a labyrinth in this reality. Random people who I personally don't know, telling me facts masquerading as truth, can take their Barnum act elsewhere. Their lie doesn't work anymore, they are fast approaching to reality 2.0, if you don't like this one, wait for what they have in store for you in the new one, I'll give 18 months max! That is why I personally pay no attention them, it's all diversion tactics, and done on purpose.
The only way I'd be cool with this is maybe a no links period change. Even then, I'd think it was crazy reckless if it was more than one day per week. Gotta try before you buy when it comes to a thing like that.
Why? So I satisfy your conformistic logic? I will not do that. Go and do that for us please, we will wait. Want to prove something? - I will not gather the resources for you. Please go do that yourself.
52 comments
n/a MarioSpeedwagon13 2017-03-30
Outed & proven by whom?
Be realistic.
n/a NOcomedy 2017-03-30
For starters... Wikileaks
n/a sweetholymosiah 2017-03-30
Oh you mean the most reputable and trustworthy publishing agency wikileaks.org?
Your rule is little more than an excuse to censor people. I don't believe you're serious.
n/a NOcomedy 2017-03-30
So you would rather get fisted with BS from CNN than trusting the leaks? What percentage would you ''guess'is true from Wikileaks? Be honest !
n/a sweetholymosiah 2017-03-30
well I misunderstood your comment I guess. You're suggesting wikileaks can be an arbiter and gatekeeper of truth? With that I would agree.
n/a NOcomedy 2017-03-30
Fuck yeah you would agree. That is why you are part of this sub I would guess. Cheers!
n/a LilMissGuided 2017-03-30
Go to cnn.com and tell us which article there is "fake news".
n/a NOcomedy 2017-03-30
Why? So I satisfy your conformistic logic? I will not do that. Go and do that for us please, we will wait. Want to prove something? - I will not gather the resources for you. Please go do that yourself.
n/a LilMissGuided 2017-03-30
You want to ban CNN yet every article I've viewed on their front page seems legitimate.
n/a NOcomedy 2017-03-30
Pay close attention to what you just said. SEEMS Exactly !!! I'm done
n/a LilMissGuided 2017-03-30
Lol
n/a NOcomedy 2017-03-30
Exactly! You can get back to r/funny now.
n/a LilMissGuided 2017-03-30
I thought you were done? Haha
Quick, I think thedailysheeple.com just published another BREAKING NEWS BOMBSHELL!
n/a KingJames19 2017-03-30
LOL get the fuck out
n/a User_Name13 2017-03-30
Removed, violation of rule 10, this is your final warning.
n/a GlenCompton 2017-03-30
The entire opinion section.
n/a LilMissGuided 2017-03-30
Yeah, opinion pieces are just... Opinions.
Like the stormfront opinion section has some pretty out there views on it.
Just because cnn or huffpo give some lefty lesbian a platform doesn't mean the rest of their editorial is worthless.
n/a GlenCompton 2017-03-30
I agree that stormfront makes a excellent comparison to the level of radical nonsense CNN pushes through their editorials.
But personally i am not going to sift through either of their trash heaps in the hopes of finding objective reporting.
n/a LilMissGuided 2017-03-30
So, better to let both through and let the votes decide, no?
n/a GlenCompton 2017-03-30
yes, I agree. I am not for filtering news sources at all.
Yesterday's over zealous propaganda is today's weapon against the media's own credibility.
n/a sweetholymosiah 2017-03-30
CNN is CIA garbage.
n/a FartOnToast 2017-03-30
You are a litte missguided. Hey just stating your username that is all.
n/a LilMissGuided 2017-03-30
Ty
n/a sweetholymosiah 2017-03-30
what?? no no, the Corporate News Network is ALL lies and disinfo. Don't corrupt your brain cells.
n/a passenger_pidgin 2017-03-30
Meh... Wikileaks is a gatekeeper organization... The leaks are well timed and also scrubbed to hide the true criminality that exists within our "leadership."
I think that setting rules for the citation of media is a dangerous thing... goes back to the whole "fake news" campaign... who is the judge of real/fake news? I can tell you right now that I don't trust a system that will judge these things for me.
Mario, the MSM has outed themselves to anybody paying attention, particularly in the area of economics. We could start with their blatant cheerleading of the nonesuch "recovery" - by neglecting to inform readers of "seasonal adjustments" within GDP reporting. If you have ever read real estate articles, you might be aware of how they passed off false data from NAR (which has more greater fools paying for the privilege of living in smaller spaces). To me, though, the most eggregious example of MSM absolutely obfuscating truth is their "critiques" of ZIRP "stimulus" in our economy - particularly its effect on senior citizens, and those who live off of interest and fixed incomes. This group of people (and savers in general) have been eviscerated by ZIRP policy, with nary a peep from the MSM about its destructive effects.
Economic reporting has been the greatest redpill regarding the truth of MSM since 2007.
n/a Balthanos 2017-03-30
The Ministry of Truth, of course. We have them on contract at Hogwarts.
n/a Nigel-Tufnel- 2017-03-30
I too am sick of truepundit, zerohedge, gateway pundit articles.... Natural news Russian-insider... The list goes on.
n/a NOcomedy 2017-03-30
I was thinking more like CNN, Fox News, CBS etc... Alternative news come as breath of fresh air...at least for me.
n/a sweetholymosiah 2017-03-30
hey zerohedge is good sometimes. I suppose you prefer the CIA outlets Washington Post and New York Times?
n/a NOcomedy 2017-03-30
according to your logic, wikileaks is CIA asset also.
n/a sweetholymosiah 2017-03-30
guh?
n/a nitmotilo 2017-03-30
What a trollish and argumentative thing to say.
n/a sweetholymosiah 2017-03-30
I ask humbly for your forgiveness sir. My passion is often mistaken for rudeness.
n/a nitmotilo 2017-03-30
Granted.
n/a sweetholymosiah 2017-03-30
Sounds like a bad idea. People can downvote posts. We don't need more power tripping mods destroying our freedom to be stupid and learn from our mistakes. /r/conspiracy is valuable because we can post whatever we want and then vote on posts.
n/a NOcomedy 2017-03-30
Still, how many times do you want/need to be lied to fucking stop reading and watching what they propagate you fucks!
n/a sweetholymosiah 2017-03-30
It used to be the case that if a mainstream article was posted here on /r/conspiracy, the comment section would reliably rip it apart and provide better context than any article could. Now we get bot comments and misdirection burying whatever sensible things real people come up with.
So in that sense, mainstream articles have a place on this sub; as a target for our criticism. However these days it's more likely to be held up and used to divide us. Fucking shills.
n/a NOcomedy 2017-03-30
This is a very solid point. We can tag articles (FNOW Fake News Outlet Warning) instead.
n/a sweetholymosiah 2017-03-30
how about "Corporate Bullshit"?
n/a NOcomedy 2017-03-30
You know how Police Stations tag pedophiles to warn their citizens ? That is the type of tag I'm interested in. Once your cover is blown like in the CNN case, you should get a lifetime label.
n/a mastigia 2017-03-30
I wouldn't object to a ban of the big players in msm. Fox, Cnn, NPR, ABC, NBC. I think they are often dangerous propaganda. And aside from that, I don't come here to get the stuff I can easily find on TV. That is opposite the reason I come here, their material is fundamentally inappropriate for this sub.
n/a sweetholymosiah 2017-03-30
I personally support never reading fox cnn abc nbc, but I wouldn't ban things. NPR is different in that there is potential for the NPR to be a public resource. After all it's supposed to be accountable to citizens who fund it right?
Whoa scary communism! Public broadcasting!!! With reform, it can work.
n/a mastigia 2017-03-30
NPR is my favorite radio station outside of election season, I have even maintained a membership in the past. They have unfortunately proved themselves to be willing participants in propaganda this year. So I consider them compromised in the same way as RT and will no longer continue to support them. I will also encourage any effort to defund them.
n/a sweetholymosiah 2017-03-30
I was also surprised that Democracy Now covered all the weird Soros funded angles, and rarely if ever covers the fact that America has funded ISIS and al Qaida.
Amy Goodman is still trustworthy, but their funding model is lacking if they can't stand independent from their big name sponsors.
n/a mastigia 2017-03-30
I think NPR is a thinly veiled agent of Soros now. And now I wonder how long that has been the case, and what else they slipped in before the relationship was so obvious. Because good propaganda is subtle. It is only obvious now because we have this divergent reality going on to discern the irregularities. What did I let them put in my mind before I was this suspicious of them?
n/a Dude_wtf_seriously 2017-03-30
I come here to read any and all articles. I don't want someone with an egenda choosing what im able to watch/read/listen.
Who do you think is worthy enough to spoenfeed us the right material? I dont trust anyone to do that. Thsts MY job to choose whats right and whats not.
n/a 1eyedwill 2017-03-30
Exactly my thoughts. I'll be the filter of what goes into my head, not some internet person who is looking out 'for my best interests".
Goto New and start using those vote buttons, this is the way to fight the BS.
n/a SugarsuiT 2017-03-30
bad idea.
n/a 1eyedwill 2017-03-30
No more rules, thanks.
n/a Lo0seR 2017-03-30
I've posted this before, all forms of Media is compromised, to think otherwise would be naive and foolish, truth is a labyrinth in this reality. Random people who I personally don't know, telling me facts masquerading as truth, can take their Barnum act elsewhere. Their lie doesn't work anymore, they are fast approaching to reality 2.0, if you don't like this one, wait for what they have in store for you in the new one, I'll give 18 months max! That is why I personally pay no attention them, it's all diversion tactics, and done on purpose.
n/a soonerchad 2017-03-30
Stupid idea. Very stupid.
n/a KiA423469420 2017-03-30
The only way I'd be cool with this is maybe a no links period change. Even then, I'd think it was crazy reckless if it was more than one day per week. Gotta try before you buy when it comes to a thing like that.
n/a NOcomedy 2017-03-30
For starters... Wikileaks
n/a NOcomedy 2017-03-30
I was thinking more like CNN, Fox News, CBS etc... Alternative news come as breath of fresh air...at least for me.
n/a sweetholymosiah 2017-03-30
hey zerohedge is good sometimes. I suppose you prefer the CIA outlets Washington Post and New York Times?
n/a Balthanos 2017-03-30
The Ministry of Truth, of course. We have them on contract at Hogwarts.
n/a NOcomedy 2017-03-30
Why? So I satisfy your conformistic logic? I will not do that. Go and do that for us please, we will wait. Want to prove something? - I will not gather the resources for you. Please go do that yourself.
n/a GlenCompton 2017-03-30
The entire opinion section.
n/a LilMissGuided 2017-03-30
Yeah, opinion pieces are just... Opinions.
Like the stormfront opinion section has some pretty out there views on it.
Just because cnn or huffpo give some lefty lesbian a platform doesn't mean the rest of their editorial is worthless.
n/a nitmotilo 2017-03-30
Granted.
n/a sweetholymosiah 2017-03-30
what?? no no, the Corporate News Network is ALL lies and disinfo. Don't corrupt your brain cells.