Russian involvement of The_Donald.

13  2017-03-30 by trialbytire

This may be old news to most of you but I uncovered some links between various subreddits that seem to connected in somehow between various subreddits. It's OC anyways.

First off, check out https://www.reddit.com/r/Le_Pen/ . You'll notice that most of the posts on have between 20-150 uptovtes, and <15 comments. Between the code writing, Graphics creation, Discord, and obvious use of bots it's obvious there is financial backing to this subreddit (whether by just political staffers or whatever). The Senate intelligence chief has warned of russian interference in the (french election)[http://www.france24.com/en/20170330-russia-actively-involved-french-election-warns-us-senate-intelligence-chief] Between the similarity to /r/The_Donald ( the name, subreddit aesthetics, and "meme bank",) and russian favoritism of Trump, I think it's probable that The_Donald was at least started, and helped brought to popularity, by Russia's propaganda team.

Thoughts?

Edit : This post articulates this much better Here

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is there evidence beyond the senate warning?

I'm looking, but haven't found much.

this is the senate warning...

is there anything concrete beyond the senate warning? A particular article... or a particular blog...

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Comment underneath that sums up my fealings about the whole matter perfectly.

not a conspiracy guy, just a connect the dots guy.

That's really what it is at this point. There's no conspiracy left. It's just a matter of connecting the dots between the 5 or 6 people we know were compromised (Flynn, Manafort, Kushner etc.) to all the people that they appointed/recruited.

That comment was posted as its own post here on /r/conspiracy, and of course it was predictably buried immediately with zero discussion on the substance of the post.

The comrades are afraid. We need to keep pushing till they crack.

Jesus, If anything I thought it would make for good discussion. You're right.

Get out of here you lying piece of shit. You don't even know what you're being used for, I hope

Don't you buy this line of shit for a minute

Schultz is riding the meme wave, it's far left commie garbage masquerading as young hip youths.

The Le Pen sub and the Geerts sub have lots of upvoted but fever comments often because it's Americans trying to support other right wing nationalists but can't participate due to the language barrier.

But sure blame it on Russia cause that's what Schiff said.

Are calling a prosecutor who brought down a major FBI agent, a garbage left commie?

Just want to clarify, because that sure says an awful lot.

Russian troll trying to deflect

This whole "leftist" thing makes people so easy to spot.

Propagandist paid to play a head game

I'm saying Schulz, a literal commie, is indeed a garbage far left commie.

Oh ok. This is a sub about conspiracies. Your party is trash too, just like the rest. Right wing fantasyland. Enjoy it.

Ah you're right, I'll take my non-conspiracies, like communism being in top five worst ideologies ever, somewhere else. Thanks brah

communism couldn't possibly fit in there, right now its:

republicans

nazis

fundamentalist christians

fascist bootlickers

racial supremacists

as the top five, republicans got to the top when they nominated trump, finally uniting the other 4 on the list.

Lol ok bro, I guess killing 100s of millions of people is cool as long as there's no racial component.

we start tallying the military actions of majority christian countries and we'll hit 100 million pretty quick bro.

where do you even get this 100s of millions figure anyway? Sounds pretty suspect, Mao and Stalin together might barely hit that figure.

Sorry but if you're gonna start citing the crusades, which ended like 800 years ago, then you should know that they were started in self defense.

If you're talking about something else then I'm not sure what Christianity has to do with it unless you're just a faggy atheist.

Take your tankie apologism to someone who cares.

Sorry but if you're gonna start citing the crusades, which ended like 800 years ago, then you should know that they were started in self defense.

there were a lot of crusades bro, and being that they were defined as movements of europeans going to jeruselum to fight, well that kinda shits on the whole self defense thing (as though that was even the justification for all of them) don't it? Its not self defense if you jump in front of a bullet fired in another direction is it?

unless you're just a faggy atheist.

yeah i am an atheist, you got a problem with that? And what exactly makes atheists faggy? Funny criticism coming from a person whose religion talks about loving a dude all the time. And do you have a problem with gays? Whats your damage?

tankie apologism

who the fuck are tankies?

whatever, as usual the demand for evidence christianity is the same is met by silence and shifted goal posts, as should be expected from someone so morally weak they can be lead to hatred and vitriol of others who's beliefs are basically the same, yet will think they are virtuous in doing so despite violating every directive of their (not truly respected) holy book.

and when more evidence is presented and the goal posts won't shift anymore you instead just go for ad hominem, apparently not forgiving everything christians do or not villifying the same things when muslims do them makes me "faggy"

thats how i know i've won. You have retreated to insults, and i choose to follow you know further. Contemplate the things i have written, and your errors of morality and logic, i do no t intend to respond further.

1) They were self defense as a response to Muslim incursion in Europe, and retaking Jerusalem was a bonus never capitalized on

2) it makes you faggy cause I can smell your gross neckbeard brand of atheism through my phone

3) I'm not even a Christian

4) declaring you've 'won' (as if that's even possible in an internet "debate") doesn't actually make you the winner. It makes you a loser, in more than 1 way

Anyone with a brain knows t_d and the Russians are butt buddies but you're not going to convince anyone here who doesn't already see the obvious.

What little power those t_d shills have they're still using to influence smaller more conservative subs to keep the narrative they've been pushing alive.

You'd have better luck making up a random conspiracy about Hillary on the spot.. and pushing that.

Anyone with a brain knows t_d and the Russians are butt buddies

This is a reddit fantasy without even a shred of proof

This is a reddit fantasy without even a shred of proof

I feel the requirements are..

  1. you've used reddit in the last year.
  2. you can do some basic critical thinking.
  3. you're kind of normal.

Following those 3 rules, I think it's impossible not to see the massive amount of bots and Russian propaganda flowing like the Mississippi out of t_d.

Following those 3 rules, I think it's impossible not to see the massive amount of bots and Russian propaganda flowing like the Mississippi out of t_d.

Examples of the Russian propaganda that's impossible not to see please.

uh, did you miss the fucking election?

They might as well have given Russia their own offices at t_d.

Are you a real person?

No i'm the greatest bot ever created by George Soros.

Well lets converse like normal people then. What do you have other then the idea planted in your head that shows anything you are saying?

10/16

https://heatst.com/world/how-russias-twitter-bots-and-trolls-work-with-donald-trump-campaign-accounts/

People been onto the obvious Pro Russian/Donald Trump bot thing for awhile..

You linked a article with absolutely no proof and not even a mention of T_D. Yeah some pro Trump tweets come out of Russia, most likely because he doesn't demonize them nor want a war with them unlike the other presidential runner. I want to be reasonable with you because its the only way to make headway. You are being mislead by a huge political machine, be wary.

You are being mislead by a huge political machine, be wary.

So instead trust the dude in the gold tower and his massive arsenal of billionaires and Russians who've proven they don't give a fuck about the american public..

Yeah I'll stick with investigating Trump/Russia for their obvious ties.

Yeah I'll stick with investigating Trump/Russia for their obvious ties.

Thats the thing bro, you are not investigating shit you are just regurgitating what they feed you. If you actually did investigating like you said you would have proof and wouldn't have to google "Trump Russian bots" to find you evidence of something you whole heartrendingly believe. I am not asking you to believe the man in the ivory tower, I am simply asking you to follow actual hard evidence and follow sources and go down that rabbit hole to see the source of this information you are getting.

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He said 'normal people'. Can you express an independent opinion?

What do you think, as a living breathing American citizen who's sitting in a chair helping fascism put its boot down on his own country? I mean as an individual man with something very valuable to lose.

No, he isn't. He's not

So if you're kind of normal and can do basic critical thinking, it's impossible not to see, but you can't give any examples... weird.

There's TWO investigations in congress over it, and one at the FBI..

Willful ignorance doesn't even begin describe the desperation.. It's like reality doesn't even exist.

So the fact that lots of people on the internet post about Flat Earth, and investigate it, means it's proven too? And if you don't agree with it, are you also exercising wilful ignorance?

Cause I'm just asking you for some proof, and you seem to have none.

Holy balls that's one of the dumbest comparisons i've ever seen made.

Random internet people investigating conspiracy theories.. and the government, investigating events that happened and are verifiable through documents and testimony are not even close to the same thing.

The fact that you tried to walk down that road, is fucking hysterical, holy shit.

Random internet people investigating conspiracy theories.. and the government, investigating events that happened and are verifiable through documents and testimony are not even close to the same thing.

Oh! Hey can you please, please show me these documents that have verified this?

Lol. Despite your aggressive commentary, I'm amused that you think bullshit doesn't stink if it comes from the government. You might be in the wrong sub?

https://www.intelligence.senate.gov/sites/default/files/documents/ICA_2017_01.pdf

Can't wait to hear you rebut the factual, confirmed report on Russia interference.

Honestly, if you think bullshit stinks when it comes from the government, but we should trust a 70 year old racist billionaire that lives in a gold tower.. you're just as dumb as anyone blinding trusting the government.

Can you please tell me which pages might contain the proof to substantiate your claims?

Lol RT removed "Russia" from their logo? The horror!!!

You gave yourself away there. Why must you people look at everything in black and white? Who in their right mind would 'trust' either one of the 2016 candidates, and based on what?

Can you please refer me to the pages/paragraphs that might contain the proof to substantiate your outrageous Russia claims? (Lol, RT removed "Russia" from their logo? The horror!!)

And we're going to pretend that the device-hacking, journalist-killing intelligence community would never ever lie to little old you

Which one, the one the Democrats threw and then made up the Russian hackers to cover up? What else did you do besides scheme, you evil bastards?

People have opinions that differ from mine. They must be Russian.

BASIC CRITICAL THINKING!?

Holy haggard old Jesus Christ in heaven you duplicitous lying little fucker you

You're right, the Donald as a subreddit is mostly these same propagandizing fucks playing a 'look how evil and stupid I am' head game

That subreddit is propaganda just like every word you've written there is propaganda. The Donald doesn't have real supporters in there, that's you same fucking Muppets playing the same manipulative brainwashing head games you've been playing for months. You disgusting fucks, you're tearing your own country apart and you're so witless you don't even know it

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Congrats, you are regurgitating the fears instilled deep inside you by the powers that be.

I think Iceland 'hacked' our election, and my evidence is as strong as yours.

I think Iceland 'hacked' our election, and my evidence is as strong as yours.

elaborate. what evidence do you have? there's the senate talking about russia, flynn and others with russian connections resigning or recusing themselves, russian operatives with mysterious deaths, etc. etc.

Omg the senate talked about it?? Must be true, they never lie. As soon as Jon McCain mentions something that goes along with my narrative, it totally confirms it!

Must be true, they never lie.

err, why would they lie so blatantly? and i don't think the sarcasm is helpful.

They are politiciana. It's their job to lie

elaborate. what evidence do you have?

None!

Like I said, my evidence is as strong as yours.

i mean none! doesn't seem as strong as everything else i stated does it?

he couldn't type anymore after "none!" because he stuck his fingers in his ears, closed his eyes and started shouting la la la la la, as is the custom of the trump cultist who must actually confront the evidence tying him to russia.

theres a big "it doesn't look like anything to me" dance and then eventually they just say russia is great and its not so bad if they influence us. And then they accuse clinton of being controlled by saudi arabia or isreal alternately, and saying thats so terrible we need to investigate that, adn also because of that what trump did is fine and you should ignore it.

It's stronger! Because it's honest.

You're just spitting out random things from the news related to Russia. Care to explain how anything you've listed above proves Russian involvement in the election?

Or did you know Podesta is "connected" to Russia as well? Maybe he hacked the election...

why else would flynn quit? or sessions recuse himself from probes?

You have no evidence you haven't made up.

you think people would resign, recuse, or act shadily if there weren't some substance to the reports?

I've been watching people act shadily for months now.

the senate talking about russia

You need to completely start over in learning what constitutes "evidence."

the world is shades of grey. to think otherwise is foolish or naivete.

You have no evidence either, you jackboot idiot. You've been making it up, over and over, for months and months, turning the block around and trying to shove it through the hole like a retarded child.

No one will believe you by now. You've blown it, that seems to be all you amateur Nazis are good at.

you think people would resign, recuse, or act shadily if there weren't some substance to the reports?

retarded child

amateur Nazis

do you really think this sort of language is conducive to this subreddit? or any sort of discussion? i've been perfectly pleasant, why do you insult me this way?

Who do you intrude on our discussions this way?

I don't remember ever wanting to know what manipulative dollar-store totalitarians thought about anything, far less having the information I have access to dominated by it, and certainly if the people paying you had anything worthwhile to say they'd say it themselves, rather than pay armies of invasive idiots to flip tables over in the public space and disrupt conversations about topics they don't approve of.

Why do you intrude on our discussions this way?

who is this our? i've been talking to you for the past few comments and if i recall correctly you're the one who chose to respond to me when i was talking to someone else.

I don't remember ever wanting to know what dollar-store totalitarians thought about anything, far less having the information I have access to dominated by their opinion, and certainly if the people paying you had anything worthwhile to say they'd say it themselves, rather than pay armies of invasive idiots to flip tables over in the public space and disrupt conversations about topics they don't approve of.

err, you're accusing me of being a dollar-store totalitarian?

you have information, spill it, don't go on rambling invectives

rule 10 insists that you don't call people shills.

Rule 10 can sit on it and spin

it's clear to me you're not here for conducive discussion. please delete your comments and leave us alone.

ooh I like that. definitely the pirate party of Iceland!

Russia's "troll armies" are pretty well documented. To say they don't exist is willful ignorance.

The US has "troll armies" too. I didn't say they don't exist.

Are you suggesting that Russian shills overpowered the entire US election campaign/process?

Yeah 1,000 Russian shills compromised the 230 Million eligible voters and Hilary's 1.2 billion dollars in campaign spending. /s

Hillary Clinton sabotaged herself by throwing a qualifying election.

100% agree. I know that's the reason I didn't vote for her.

Not saying the US doesn't, or that you said otherwise. You say he is "regurgitating the fears instilled deep inside you by the powers that be." Which he is not doing.

Yes, that's exactly what he's doing, that's exactly why it takes six million of you to convince anyone, because sheer repetition has to take the place of simple, easily remembered, easily retained...truth.

Don't exist? It's difficult to be heard over them

From where I'm sitting I only see one troll army you idiot

Then show us proof

There are many articles on this topic. This is an article from 2003 (and the oldest I can find).

A Russian youth group was also involved in 2010/11.

Here is one last article from someone who interviewed for one of the jobs.

If you want to learn more, it is quite easy as there is a ton of information out about this.

Exactly. It's propaganda, it's a head game.

Listening to the hearings today, this seems extremely plausible. They were literally hired to smack talk Clinton, and target voters on the fence. They targeted common blue states as well.

I'm sure it'll all be on the front page of this sub momentarily.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/russian-trolls-hilary-clinton-fake-news-election-democrat-mark-warner-intelligence-committee-a7657641.html

Don't come in here selling your fascist jackboot lies to these people with your American mass media propatrash. What's gotten into you? Do you even know what you're helping those seditious fucks do?

Aww, did this strike a nerve? Sad!

What strikes my nerve is the fact that fascism is already here, and you pug-nosed boot-humpers are helping it.

The_Donald here. AMA.

This is the one the fifth post today about Russian shills. Agenda anyone?

I forget the guy's name who started TD, but he was Doxxed (and in the US). I think he was also legit white nationalist, or at least had some seriously noxious posts on altright.

Gotta love HRC trying to blame paid Russian trolls instead of giving credit to /pol/ for the Great Meme War of 2016

I'm not saying it's all of it. I'm saying it helped it.

I'm sure it, if real since there's still no evidence, was offset by the paid American trolls financed by Soros and run by David Brock who, by the way, are still active and trying to push this muh Russia narrative.

Thats one of the things that kind of blows a hole it it. The HRC stuff seemed so poorly planned.

Hillary Clinton lost because the Democrats wouldn't know how to follow the law if you strapped them to it and kicked it down a hill

I agree, and I voted for Trump. It is my belief that a good part of the pro-Trump sentiment seen in many popular memes was propagated by Russia. In other words, the "Great Meme War" was a Russian proxy war.

There is no Russia. Russia has never been an issue. That's a fucking lie made up to cover the fact that the stinking fucking useless parasitical Democrats made up to cover the fact that they defrauded a national election and faced no consequences for it.

Da komrade!

You can't automatically excuse the republicans just because theyre on your side. US politics is corrupt all the way through and the narrative is always controlled by one side. I think russia picked their horse and supported him in every way possible. Hey I voted for Trump, but it was a vote for chaos. I think the Russians would also appreciate some American chaos so its not outside of the realm of possibility that they support him too.

The Republicans? I'm a Bernie voter, but I have no problem with the guy next to me who voted Republican.

Now I do have a problem with Mitt Romney. I have a problem with Mitch McConnell. I also have a problem with Skippy 'I'm Up To Some Evil Shit' Podesta, Debbie 'Fuck You, Democracy' Wassermann and Hillary "FUCK YOU MOOK" Clinton.

Russia is a fairytale. Isn't true, never was, the best you've got there is last night's hastily cobbled science fair project courtesy of the Super Intelligent Community and their script kiddie toys.

Russia is as real as anything else in the world. Sure, their role in American politics may be overblown, but you can't rule it out completely, they have as much at stake as anyone else and they also have the (lack of) integrity to do something about it.

Okay, I'll ease off at that, that's the most compromise I've seen out of a Trump hater for months. We don't agree, but I respect the willingness to cede so I'll do the same

I'm a frequenter of T_D and I can confirm I live in Putin's basement.

Yo they are all Russians.

There was a week where their bots malfunctioned and their flair showed their true country of origin and all the bots' syntax got all fucked up and reverted to the strict translation from Russian. (they called each-other comrade)

The fuckin' Russians Hacked Podesta too, they made him rape and eat kids for a few decades just so they could expose him before he made it back to the White House for a third time.

Same thing happens on twitter, in extremely similar fashion

There are no Russians. Russians didn't hack the DNC, they didn't hack the election, and the only real link that exists between Vladimir Putin and Donald Trump was a very ill-advised exchange of mutual respect while Trump was still a primary candidate.

The fascists trying to crush free speech in this country right now are using the Russians as their Eastasia. Don't buy a fucking word of it, not for a minute, the CIA is known to have the ability to spoof state actors - which means any actor - with the malware thay've spent your taxpayer money putting together.

the Propaganda and Disinformation Act - again, taxpayer money - has been paying the salaries of thousands of propagandists who have spent assiduous months using the tactic of repeating something over and over until you accept it as true, although it was never true in the first place.

There are no Russian hackers, not of the consequence these fascist bait for firing squads have been leading you to believe.

It's very true that fascism is finally trying to put its stinking fucking boot down in this country. But those aren't the Russians, those are the people talking about the Russians.

Don't give them a fucking inch.

Global Engagement Center

..just reading into this.. holy shit..

Isn't there something similar to Correct The Record (CTR) that trump utilized?

I feel like if there was one, in the U.S, it would have made it's way around (just like how everyone knows CTR).

Check this post out though, it's VERY interesting. https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/62dtlw/russian_hired_1000_people_to_create_anticlinton/dflqyxh/

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I saw a TIL on Reddit about it. Not sure the legitimacy of it or how I can find it now though

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This is a reddit fantasy without even a shred of proof

I feel the requirements are..

  1. you've used reddit in the last year.
  2. you can do some basic critical thinking.
  3. you're kind of normal.

Following those 3 rules, I think it's impossible not to see the massive amount of bots and Russian propaganda flowing like the Mississippi out of t_d.

uh, did you miss the fucking election?

They might as well have given Russia their own offices at t_d.

You linked a article with absolutely no proof and not even a mention of T_D. Yeah some pro Trump tweets come out of Russia, most likely because he doesn't demonize them nor want a war with them unlike the other presidential runner. I want to be reasonable with you because its the only way to make headway. You are being mislead by a huge political machine, be wary.

Aww, did this strike a nerve? Sad!

You're right, the Donald as a subreddit is mostly these same propagandizing fucks playing a 'look how evil and stupid I am' head game

He said 'normal people'. Can you express an independent opinion?

What do you think, as a living breathing American citizen who's sitting in a chair helping fascism put its boot down on his own country? I mean as an individual man with something very valuable to lose.

I've been watching people act shadily for months now.

Da komrade!

You can't automatically excuse the republicans just because theyre on your side. US politics is corrupt all the way through and the narrative is always controlled by one side. I think russia picked their horse and supported him in every way possible. Hey I voted for Trump, but it was a vote for chaos. I think the Russians would also appreciate some American chaos so its not outside of the realm of possibility that they support him too.