How close is WW3?
19 2017-04-09 by 234234234111
I keep reading/hearing that experts claim we are closer to WW3 now than we were during the Cuban Missile Crisis.
Russia hot war confrontations in Ukraine and Syria. Build up near the Baltics.
China confrontations in South China Sea and North Korea.
Raised tensions, heightened rhetoric, complicated/esoteric alliance systems.
Is this it? What do people think?
44 comments
n/a The_Majestic_ 2017-04-09
Well Russia has a defensive pact with Syria which could trigger it. When you look at everything the deep state in the US is trying to do they want it bad.
n/a twofaceHill_16 2017-04-09
I don't think Russia will defend Syria if NATO, Turkey, Saudi Arabia are w/ USA..
If they can disprove the 'chemical sarin attack' than they might have more leverage.
And I'm still holding out hope for no new wars.. maybe North Korea if anything
n/a nitmotoli 2017-04-09
Turkey's status is unclear. While they are a member of NATO, two years ago NATO warned Turkey they would not defend Turkey if attacked by Russia. They're kind of pissed. Erdogan was been courting both NATO and Russia.
Turkey started that whole thing with the Netherlands the other week. What was it Erdogan said? Something like "Netherlands has 50,000 troops, while there are 400,000 Turks already living in the Netherlands." It was clearly a threat.
n/a Zerwe 2017-04-09
i think they should shove WW3 up their asses. but it looks kind of like it. honestly i tend to believe that it's going to happen like in the next five till ten years. i hope it takes ten years.
n/a Dissociatve 2017-04-09
Well it gets closer every day obviously
n/a nitmotoli 2017-04-09
Don't forget Erdogan. He is currently expanding Turkey by snatching up Syrian land. To his west lies Greece, which is barely even a country anymore. The guy is trying to rebuild the Ottoman Empire, imho.
Yemen is a proxy war with Iran. Iranians continue to challenge US warships.
20 million refugees have flooded Europe. That's a very big problem because Europe can't possibly employ all these people. People tend to get a little radical when they can't see a light at the end of the tunnel.
Realize, too--Over the past two years, the United States has dropped a bomb on Syria/Iraq once every 20 minutes, on average. For. Two. Whole. Years. These people don't hate us "for our freedom." They hate us because we killed half their family.
I agree that we are closer to WW3 than ever before. I'm half-convinced we've passed the point of no return. I very much hope I'm wrong.
n/a txp33 2017-04-09
I don't think Erdogen is part of the NWO he's gone off on his own script. The NATO nukes were removed from his country and he's purged all the opposition in his country.
n/a oelsen 2017-04-09
... or you don't want nukes on a hot ground, so to speak.
n/a txp33 2017-04-09
Yeah, that could be it. It's not really smart to have a nukes in a country where military coups are taking place.
n/a 432_Hz 2017-04-09
You can say what you want, but I think we have to thank Russia for its patience and cautious politics. The West has been provoking Russia for so many years to inflate a worldwide conflict but Putin remains sane. It seems that Putin is absolutely aware of the 'Plan For The New American Century', he knows what is reaction is expected from the globalists to bring Russia into war. As ridiculious it may sound for some of you, but Russia is our only hope right now.
n/a OwenWilsonSays 2017-04-09
x2
n/a 435435435 2017-04-09
Well said
n/a mastigia 2017-04-09
They will try to turn this around and say the Russian propaganda is working, but I think you are exactly right.
n/a bigs3 2017-04-09
Putin is a cold blooded, rational leader. He is playing chess on the world arena, the last thing he wants is to start WW3.
n/a Shinjifo 2017-04-09
Until he can garantee a win ;)
n/a snapchatmeyourgw 2017-04-09
Russia has 1 aircraft carrier the US has 12.
France has twice as many aircraft carriers as Russia does.... let that sink In
n/a Shinjifo 2017-04-09
Nukes man, nukes :p
n/a chickenshitmchammers 2017-04-09
Putin is no hero. He is a mason just like all the others. I think they're colluding.
n/a makeplayz 2017-04-09
Same
n/a TheClashofTitans 2017-04-09
I don't think there's going to be a WW3 at this moment, just the same old bullshit where some people from one corner of the world kill people from another corner of them world.
Which in turn leads to terrorism, both as blowback of state atrocities as well as the unintended consequences of backing militants, false-flags, etc.
As long as there's money to be made for the lobbyists and defense contractors, and as long as Israel feels it is not the sole hegemon in the middle-east region, there will continue to be war. Just not world war.
n/a WooTs_67 2017-04-09
I dont think WW3 will happen on the scale everyone thinks it will happen.
Same old shit will just continue to go on.
n/a Negrodamu5 2017-04-09
I think your overestimating the intelligence of the man with his finger on the button. All it takes is one wrong move and we're living in a post apocalyptic nuclear wasteland.
n/a WooTs_67 2017-04-09
Who would want that. Even the rich would not benifit from a dead planet
n/a Negrodamu5 2017-04-09
I totally agree. But Trump isn't capable of thinking that deeply or long term. He is all about posturing and power and North Korea is actually crazy. They have nothing to lose and if they think the U.S is moving in its game over. The situation in Syria is a whole different story.
n/a WooTs_67 2017-04-09
You've been watching too much CNN
Trump is not going to destroy the world. He is just going to continue what the US has been doing forever
n/a 435435435 2017-04-09
Yeah the would be fine
They have life set up planned in the deep underground military bunkers
n/a gymkhana86 2017-04-09
Your average red-blooded American, Syrian, Iraqi, Ukrainian, Russian, etc. don't want a WW3. There's nothing in it for them. The government is using it as a crutch to prop up the economy and to reappropriate resources such as oil and natural gas.
Just remember, there is nothing in this for you. Nothing.
n/a cholera_or_gonorrhea 2017-04-09
I agree with you. Plus, this generation has an "advantage" in that we've not seen peace since 9/11 and we are so sick of conflict already. We've been duped so many times about motives for going into new countries that it's just not working anymore. The tired, trotted out lines look like tired desperation; not a matter of urgent national security.
n/a gymkhana86 2017-04-09
I agree, however, I would say that our petty "conflicts" of today pale in comparison to real wars such as WW1/2. Today's men and women do not know war. I would say that most Americans have forgotten what true war looks like.
n/a cholera_or_gonorrhea 2017-04-09
Most Americans have not seen WWI and WWII so you're right... but I also think those kinds of wars are antiquated in the era of nukes, cyber warfare, and drones.
n/a Nutricidal 2017-04-09
It's a different type of war. One of occupation and survival. Americans did all right. A bit insane, but nothing wrong with that(adds a little spice). That said, generalities are always wrong. There's a lot of truth in what you say. But again, generalities.
n/a Waterdose 2017-04-09
We send professional soldiers to fight goat herders and farmers in foreign lands with little to no familiarity with the culture and traditions. The War on Terror only created more problems and suffering and it didn't solve a single thing regarding terrorism. At least with a global (non-nuclear) war, there would be an end to it and the winner would take all.
I like to think that WW3 will be the war that will end all wars and unify the planet as one. We would then be able to finally expand humanity outwards to space and focus on solving societal and economical issues, not creating more.
n/a mastigia 2017-04-09
It actually looks like it undermines our nstional security.
n/a No8145 2017-04-09
You're about 15 years late to the party. WW3 has been going on for a long time already. It's just a question of whether or not the big players will confront each other directly rather than by proxy.
n/a Nutricidal 2017-04-09
This guy gets it. There's been a shadow war with shadow governments. What makes you say 15 years?
n/a Mr_Hagbard_Celine 2017-04-09
A rough estimation starting with Operation Iraqi Freedom I reckon.
n/a ChillyWillster 2017-04-09
It can even be said that world war 1 never really ended.
n/a Mr_Hagbard_Celine 2017-04-09
It very well could. This reality is becoming a interesting place.
n/a n1ght_cab 2017-04-09
Baltics aint shit Im from here and it is just a show, no actual population support for border control with Russians. But our "politicians" got shit tons of loans from america and eu, we are supposed to not only play the ball but work minimal wages for ages
n/a 432_Hz 2017-04-09
Is that Lithuania?
n/a RPmatrix 2017-04-09
It's as close as 'we the people allow it'
The ONLY people who want war are those who make money out of it!
It really is that simple, and after WW2 there were a LOT of people who had made a shitload from "US Govt war contracts" and this group became known as the Military Industril Complex ,, becoz it was All the manufacturers of weapons.
Dwight Eisenhower tried to warn the people of the US of the dangers of "allowing these companies to continue" as they need war to make a Profit!
The LAST thing these guys want is Peace!
Until companies like Halliburton and Dyncorp, together with the Federal Reserve are dismantled this farcical "fearmongering" will continue
The biggest 'dangers' for a real 'hot' nuclear war are Israel and Iran and Pakistan and India
Not Russia or China, who know better than that
n/a cholera_or_gonorrhea 2017-04-09
What experts?
I don't know why everyone is getting a hard-on to generate this "happening" or end-of-times. I don't mean you, by the way... but if I dare venture into 4chan it's like we should all be living in the stone age by now because the world would have been blown to smithereens 5 times over. If a warship dare uses fuel it's decreed as a sign of imminent war.
Anyway, no, I'm inclined to agree that this is the sound of a dying regime (western power brokers) trying to lord over a dying economic model (oil).
n/a 234234234111 2017-04-09
Stephen Cohen is a Russia expert and he does a weekly interview on a podcast I listen to. He is the one who was saying this is worse than Cuban missile crisis. I think that is a strong view from the Russian perspective.
It is not really the view in the USA where they are trying to get us all cocked up for war.
n/a mastigia 2017-04-09
I think we are in it, and the US is about to be on the business end of a world that is sick of their shit. I live in the US, so I obviously have mixed feelings about this. But I really don't see how we get a global reset without euthanizing most of our government.
n/a Nutricidal 2017-04-09
What's that in the sky?
n/a Granite66 2017-04-09
Think today has parraels with Europe between 1935 to the outbreak of war. The war is going with everyone either trying to ignore or placate the aggressor in the hope it doesn't expand further.
No matter how good politicians can read or think they can read the situation or (worse) prove they can read the situation I think were bound for worse.
Most likely a Dr Strangelove situation with someone with access to the trigger of nuclear missiles. Real trouble is the rich and powerful don't care about the outcome. Been building bomb shelters for years cause they know it with the only matter being they make more money and they and theirs is safe.
n/a bijobini 2017-04-09
I don't know but having the US shoot missiles on Syria while Russian troops are on the ground seem like an "accident" waiting to happen...