Without a single doubt. Fake As Fuck.

How did all these people remain silent about the JFK assassination? Or 9/11? The NWO/Establishment has ways of silencing whistleblowers, and suppressing the reach of those who try to speak out.

There are whistleblowers to the Sandy Hook hoax. But they aren't given publicity in the Establishment media. Reportedly, several former Connecticut State Police spoke out about it being a hoax.

And if you go to the town to investigate it, people have been reported following and harassing investigators.

For op, I would watch we need to talk about Sandy Hook on YouTube.

And if you go to the town to investigate it, people have been reported following and harassing investigators.

"investigators"

Maybe people in Sandy Hook think you're all a bunch of terrible people and don't want you around? Have you considered that possible explanation?

Reportedly, several former Connecticut State Police spoke out about it being a hoax.

Who? Where? When?

You mean there were claims on the internet that unnamed Connecticut State Police spoke out.

By the way, there were officers from at least 10 federal, state, and local law enforcement agencies in the school that day.

How would you know if those kids were out there living their lives or not? They weren't the children of the crisis actors.

Yea, all those funerals had empty caskets. No viewings. The funeral was a made for your viewing pleasure feature film like the rest.

Sort of baffles me why peope keep asking how "so many people could keep this secret.." ever heard of the US intelligence community. They keep big secrets every day. Big, Big, elaborate secrets. Sandy Hook is a tiny event in comparison to the much bigger things that have gone on for ages. Compartmentalisation. Only a few people need to know what's really going on.

I think they're saying that these "families" of the dead kids were moved into the town around the same time and integrated with the population. All these people are actors (including the kids?) and all moved away shortly after. To me it seems like alot of moving parts and tough to keep under wraps.

"but it's asking me to believe that literally thousands of unconnected people (not people who are connected as the Intelligence community) are keeping this a secret."

Only a handful are keeping a fully informed secret. Newtown isn't a normal neighbourhood. The town itself and indeed the whole county of Fairfield has been a CIA training ground for decades. None of this would ever include informing an entire community, even if that community was entirely "normal". It's not like the citizens would be present for the event or get to walk up on it. They'd see it in the news like anyone else and that's it.

100% a hoax. No children died. They used fake IDs (names) for the children, and crisis actor parents.

Fake funderals. All closed casket. No proof that any child actually died. They used fake names for the children who supposedly died. The pictures of the children could have been 5 or 10 years old. So that the real child is now 13-18 years old.

Researchers have identified the children and their real names. For example, see here: https://fellowshipoftheminds.com/tag/lenie-urbina/

That doesn't answer OP's question.

Yeah, that doesn't explain shit.

Either all the neighbours and friends of these victims families are in on the conspiracy or it happened

There were a few open casket funerals and viewings. Jack Pinto is one for sure, I believe Jesse Lewis as well.

This guy knew a sibling and thought something was fishy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UcF0TdS-s3A

I tried to watch this, but a few minutes in realised it was just a long-winded ramble about nothing - this youtube guy needed to get to the point !

I have to agree that he's not exactly a natural orator.

The families all moved into Sandy hook within 3-4 months of another and left the same way. Looks like they were planted in over time. They neighbours are on film saying they didn't really know them but it's really sad. Think they just tricked everyone. Their kids through it was real, that stress being a parent and having that panic and seeing your child panicking is enough for them. The dead kids didn't exist in my opinion. There's also a picture of the supposed girl that died with Obama.

"younger sister" why do they look so much alike? "thats her younger sister" "oh ok im so sorry for your loss"

?! Siblings usually look alike, sometimes like twins. Not following you??

I've seen some people suggest that the town was used for re located woodsec/witness protection families. That's why some seemed to have fake id's and very little history.

I've never personally believed in it being a hoax but lately I've realised the more I learn the less I actually know.

I can only suggest you look at all the stories, evidence and theories available and come to your own conclusion.

Just be forewarned it's a very lonely path to travel down and you'll often be ostracized and shunned by others whenever you don't believe an official narrative and begin to ask questions.

but why go to so many elaborate steps when it would be so much easier to have an operative/patsy go kill a bunch of kids at a school?

Why are we assuming that killing would be the easier option. These people have been lying to us right for years, They have a good system in place

You think a conspiracy involving thousands of people is the "easier option" than just shooting the place up with one guy?

Also apparently their system is appalling, since they routinely leave the most obvious and stupid clues, such as using the same people in different hoaxes etc.

If we take as a fact (and it is an "if" the size of Africa) that a shadowy cabal organised this school shooting for some purpose, it is inconceivable that they would concoct such a labyrinthine and complex plot that would never appear as realistic as actually just committing the attack for real.

(yes yes, hand-wavy "they want us to know, they're rubbing our faces in it")

The families all moved into Sandy hook within 3-4 months of another and left the same way

This is completely wrong.

kek pizzagate

What? It's been "debunked" because Alex Jones succumbed to pressure from Alefantis and retracted what he said about Comet Ping Pong and Alefantis?

So elite pedo rings aren't real because of that?

Lmao

yes it's because alex jones of all people retracted what he said. lol

What is it then?

He said "kek" what more do you want? Evidence? Sheesh...

Yes.

The families of the "victims" were already actors, they made millions of dollars from charity, the AR-15 wielding attacker used a shotgun breaching round (you can't do that, if anyone isn't familiar with guns), there was a coverup that made it impossible to see records, and there is dash cam footage that is totally inconsistent with the narrative of the day.

There's a lot more to look into, but that's probably the big points.

Ok, so the dashcam wasnt as convincing to me only because it's just one static angle, the kids couldve gone all sorts of ways.

Sure, they could have. It's just really unlikely.

The closest thing to a smoking gun in the whole affair is the use of a breaching round. That, alone, almost demolishes the narrative. No shotgun was found at the scene, and the only shotgun was in his trunk away from the school, and showed no signs of being fired, nor did they find additional breaching rounds, IIRC.

I do find it amazing that there isnt a single picture of the violence.

Right, that's why I'm pretty comfortable saying "it didn't happen" unlike other events that just look like something odd is going on. The Columbine kids may have been put up to the attack, but they definitely shot people.

Even if it meant you and your family would be suicided? Because that is a real thing.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/the-sole-survivor-of-a-family-killing-spree-wonders-why-am-i-the-one-who-was-left/2016/11/21/13b70d1e-a117-11e6-8d63-3e0a660f1f04_story.html?tid=a_inl&utm_term=.76ec2142f94f

Honestly, if I was a Sandy Hook parent, I would at this point release the photos as it seems like a definitive way to prove that kids died there

If you were a Sandy Hook parent you would sue Alex Jones for millions of dollars for implying that it was fake, and be able to easily produce a mountain of evidence. That is a dead giveaway that nothing happened.

If you can explain the breaching round thing, I'd be grateful bc I dont know what that means.

There are frangible shotgun rounds that are designed for busting a lock without risking damage to people on the other sign. Somebody used one at Sandy Hook, even though the shooter only had an AR15 (which shoots 5.56/.223 rifle rounds).

There is no evidence of a breaching round being used. The hole and dust that hoaxers claim was caused by a shotgun breaching round could easily have been caused by the bullets Lanza used.

I thought I've read one of the police officers statements saying they dropped a shotgun shell while checking the rooms for survivors. I don't know if it's the same round you are talking about though.

There was breaching round fired inside the school. They found residue.

Sure, they could have. It's just really unlikely.

No, it isn't. The road that leads to the firehouse is behind the police car.

Because they don't want to change their mind when presented with evidence. Believing it is a hoax is part of their identity

Nothing has convinced me it's real. more the opposite. What's in those graves?

Someone made a video from one of the graveyards a while back, after which there were some alterations made - they came back and did an update. Didn't hear about any digging though - you need a warrant for that.

GPR would just detect a void and prove something is buried there. It wouldn't be able to tell you if there was an actual body in the casket. You'd have to dig for that.

If it wasn't fake they sure as hell went out of there way to make it look fake as fuck.

This is what I keep coming back to.

I think Sandy Hook was a "boy who called wolf" move. It was a hoax designed to be seen as a hoax to discredit all of the talk of 9/11 and Boston being False Flags on YouTube.

Except that Sandy Hook was a year before Boston.

Sandy hook was my red pill. Sloppy sniper playing 2 roles in 1 false flag. Sloppy sloppy shit. They even fucked up on tv saying he shot them all with an automatic assault rifle and there was shells everywhere and their wounds were 100% assault rifle wounds then they filmed them pulling the rifle out of the guys boot after the whole incident. Clown forgot to take it in with him.

Sandy hook was my red pill. Sloppy sniper playing 2 roles in 1 false flag.

That's a funny video. He has 2 different rifles, no magazines for either, and like 8 pistol magazines.

His armor is a different design than the other guys he came with, he's wearing women's sunglasses. I mean, it's just a mess.

They trotted some guy out from a nearby office that allegedly is the guy, and apparently there are some records from him before that. But it's real shaky.

i was on a swat team at my state prison, im also a vet. I worked with the STATE hostage rescue swat team and trained with a few of their guys. very high speed. There is no way in hell an fbi tactical member would ever in a million years be that frumpy, with the wrong vest(being worn wrong btw, the flap should be tucked in) the gear is different, they would NEVER carry their weapon in such a careless manner, etc.. etc. him ducking the abc cameras. hilarious.

I'm not even in law enforcement, I'm just a responsible gun owner and I know better than to do that. It's a huge red flag.

Sloppy sniper playing 2 roles in 1 false flag.

Sorry, but William Aldenberg is a real FBI agent and he doesn't look all that much David Wheeler without the helmet on.

• https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQiNyJ_hwZY
• https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kvP9dKw7_y8
• http://sandyhookanalysis.blogspot.com/2015/12/sandy-hook-david-wheeler-plays-fbi.html

then they filmed them pulling the rifle out of the guys boot after the whole incident.

The gun pulled out of the trunk was a semi-automatic shotgun (Saiga-12), not an AR-15. The people on /r/guns identified it as such the day of the shooting.

Look at how much money was funneled into that town. Not only to rebuild the school but moneys given directly to the victims' families by the federal government. Upwards of $50MM distributed to those affected.

The lack of any footage of the event has always bothered me. Our media will happily show "sarin gassed" children on national television but yet we cannot even see a dead soldier or any kind of victims of terrorist attacks in our own country! I am not extremely knowledgeable about sandy hook.

But Sloppy sniper and this other video of the kids and parents being interviewed and then literally walking around the camera man to go for a second go around always cast suspicion on the case. Plus making it illegal to question the authenticity while simultaneously sealing all records about the case, like death certificates, autopsy reports, and other important data like that is double suspicious.

Right? You think out of mercy they would just release some autopsy information showing that the victims died of gunshot wounds and that would shut up a major portion of the critics in my opinion.

Plus if these families are suffering it would be more humane to just stop withholding the information and just put the matter to bed so they can move on with their lives. See you around my friend.

careful what you ask for. if they're butt hurt enough over the fact that we're on to them, they'll suddenly come out with a bunch of gory fake pictures with lots of ketchup to shut us up.

True it is, but that hasn't stopped them from publishing fake pictures on a regular basis. They cater to the lowest common denominator. and just trust they'll see all of us as the crazy ones.

Right? You think out of mercy they would just release some autopsy information showing that the victims died of gunshot wounds and that would shut up a major portion of the critics in my opinion.

Let's be real here. That wouldn't do anything to reduce the amount of critics and skeptics. People still believe the earth is flat and reject any evidence that proves otherwise.

It's illegal to question the authenticity? What do you mean?

Actually I cannot find the source of this claim so I might of been talking out of my ass. But a man was arrested for making 4 calls to Sandy Hook Elementary and asking about the incident. All he said was that it was a hoax and he was arrested for harrassment. Although they could not actually say what part of it was actually harassment. Many people have been arrested for questioning it, but I don't think it is actually illegal to do so. So I am sorry for being misleading.

https://downtrend.com/71superb/man-arrested-for-calling-sandy-hook-shooting-a-hoax

If you slash your own tires, and if Bill tells you he saw Dave do it, Dave's gonna be in big trouble.

But if you slash your own tires and Bill tells you he saw Dave do it, Bill's gonna be in bih trouble.

So everyone thinks they know, but they don't. The children never existed, they are already adults or teenagers, the pictures presented to us were from when they were younger, no one questioned it, it is likely they were bought out.

Those kids are probably working atm, or in college.

ha I just saw that propaganda piece on there today for the first time and laughed/shook my head. Netflix does this from time to time drops a prop piece.

Fake news.

Okay so it's fake, but why?

That's what I don't understand. So it was an attempt to increase gun control legislation? Weird.

Are there any other fake shootings like this? I don't browse here much.

I can't believe all of these comments. Why does everyone think this was a hoax when all the others mass shootings are considered "real"? I'm from CT and one of the victims (student teacher) was a very close friend of a friend who is now gone and her family has to deal with that loss every day. So what you're all saying is this was just a very dramatic drawn out ploy to raise money? The minds of all you guys are so morbid and warped it's actually sickening.

Idk. This was never one I totally bought into. There are some odd facts around the case but idk. I have very intelligent friends with post graduate degrees who believe this one hardcore though so I'm definitely open to the idea.

P1zz@ga+e ritual sacrifices perhaps :o

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What was the end game? Gun control? Money? Or something else?

What was the end game? Gun control? Money? Or something else?

I don't know much about it, but one thing that has made me suspicious, is that more than one person has said, "There was a guy who used to be a conspiracy theorist until he lost his child at Sandy Hook. He is so devastated that people think his child isn't actually dead."

No it wasn't and you're disgusting for thinking so.

Excellent response. (God forbid that you should entertain a thought that is contrary to an official narrative!)

https://youtu.be/NPdFoEE4_A0

Guys i have been following Sandy Hook since it happened, i remember the day like it was last week, i was so sad to hear about these kids deaths, tears were comming down my face The more i watched the more things seemed out of place, i believe it was 100% staged, there is just more evidence pointing to it being fake than not.

I watched the live news broadcast all day and night, never were 500 plus kids shown evacuating the school, and if there were all those other kids, why have we not heard from other families, we just hear from the slain kids families.

Where the heck is Ryan Lanza and his dad after all these years? Where are the friends and family to these people? Why was all the ambulances blocked in by cop cars and other vehicles? WHY IN GODS GREEN EARTH DID THE POLICE BRING OUT SNACKS AND DRINKS AND SET THEM ON HIS HOOD IN THE SCHOOL PARKING LOT? I have 2 kids that go to school and their school is super clean, WHY is there mold and water stains on the walls of the school? Why did a lady's kid appear on the news as one of the slain kids when her kid was sitting right next to her? Then a day later they switched the kid when her mom wrote on facebook that her kid is alive and well and that this was freaking her out?

So your telling me that my kid goes to school, gets shot, and i never ever get to see the body again? They just hand back the clothes? Sure ok.

You guys the story of newtown is JACKED, i have not even mentioned all the mainstream oddities like in other posts, i do not want to believe that our government would do these acts but sadly ever since Kennedy and 9 11 i do not think we live in a truthful world, out of all of this you know who i feel sorry for? I feel sorry for US, the people who are being labled as consparicy idiots when all we want are these simple questions to be answered. After all, our kids are being raised under this government and it effects our daily lives, sadly i come to believe we are just pawns in a disgusting game of Chess.

Stay True to your hearts people, love your family and love your neighbor, we are all in this together, lets show our kids we have still have a backbone and values, cuz you think its bad now? Wait untill we leave our kids with all this mess, we won't be there to help like we are now.

And if you go to the town to investigate it, people have been reported following and harassing investigators.

For op, I would watch we need to talk about Sandy Hook on YouTube.

but why go to so many elaborate steps when it would be so much easier to have an operative/patsy go kill a bunch of kids at a school?

The families all moved into Sandy hook within 3-4 months of another and left the same way

This is completely wrong.

Reportedly, several former Connecticut State Police spoke out about it being a hoax.

Who? Where? When?

You mean there were claims on the internet that unnamed Connecticut State Police spoke out.

By the way, there were officers from at least 10 federal, state, and local law enforcement agencies in the school that day.

And if you go to the town to investigate it, people have been reported following and harassing investigators.

"investigators"

Maybe people in Sandy Hook think you're all a bunch of terrible people and don't want you around? Have you considered that possible explanation?

I tried to watch this, but a few minutes in realised it was just a long-winded ramble about nothing - this youtube guy needed to get to the point !