Come to the new r/conspiracy brother

Is there one? I NEEEED to get my conspiracy fix without all this partisan crap.

So interesting seeing your history knowing very well how partisan you are in your past comments.

Partisan for his side is cool.

You'll start to recognize who are regulars here too. There are quite a few people who comment a lot on new, gets pretty easy to identify who believes what and if they have some kind of agenda.

Yes sir, you are the real deal. Before we move for good to the other sub we should organize a shill list and just lay this place to waste. I think the mods over at the new place will make sure certain accounts cannot post.

Perhaps, we should build an easily trolled list as well. Gotta classify the gullible. Some people will believe literally anything that is posted without thinking.

Send me a PM of the new place if you don't mind.

please pm link to this new sub

What's this new place you speak of? Interesting.

Excellent concept. Share a list of shill accounts.

I have a large and ongoing RES tagged list to contribute.

The fringe stuff is always more believable as far as conspiracies go anyways.

The fringe stuff is where the truth is. If we start asking the right questions and start understanding who we are and where we are, we become very very dangerous.

There's a reason the rabbit hole only gets deeper and deeper

I personally find myself becoming more spiritual in nature the more questions I ask. There are truths that I refuse to believe have been forgotten

I think many, many of us would agree. Those truths have been forgotten by the masses, but once you see that the system is structurally built in order to mask those truths and maximize profit for the elites, you begin to see the truth. And while it ain't pretty, and it probably gets way uglier even, it's a happier feeling imo to know that based on all your research, completely separate topics often point to a singularity in spirit.

completely separate topics often point to a singularity in spirit.

yep.

I have also found this to be the case

The fringe stuff isnt compromised like anything political is. At least its honest

Love the username

right, I'm starting to get into all this a bit more. Fairly new to reddit and I'm a lurker, don't really like attempting to voice an opinion or thoughts here mainly due to shills etc etc and me honestly just starting to open my mind and actually learn some facts, trying to weed oud what i can determine as bs.

Anyway, I'd love to be in a place where i feel i can actually converse/debate things properly, so I'd love an invite to any of these other places / invite only subs etc. I just don't know who to contact about this.

Bring this attitude in your comments and you will easily spot the funky accounts. They will fixate on grammatical errors rather than refute the point itself, conduct ad hominem attacks, or use multiple accounts. If you are open-minded and patient, the liars reveal themselves

100%. Over the past few months its easier and easier to spot the obvious bs and coercing/pushing agendas.

Thats basically what's kept me lurking though, since finding this sub (and then others from posts in here) its been like a reset button on my life, everything i was taught etc I'm finding there is an ulterior motive as to why i was taught that bit of history the way someone decided it would be taught. I have so many questions, and to be honest just complete befuddlement at some things but I don't feel comfortable joining in with the torrent of bs you see wash through here every day :/

Now I'm a bit more "educated" in ways to find things out, understand what happens etc I'm definitely going to get a bit more vocal and pose questions / thoughts. :)

Yeah, RES is your best friend, too. Handy for tagging people.

RES?

https://redditenhancementsuite.com/

Browser add-on, basically, that makes browsing Reddit so much more enjoyable. I like the tag function that enables you to label users (so for example, I have a few titled "Monsanto Shill"). Don't know if the site has incorporated this feature yet, but RES is well worth it.

Wow I've only ever browsed on mobile. I need to get a computer again

They will fixate on grammatical errors

I'll point out grammatical errors, because poor grammar and spelling undermine otherwise interesting arguments.

Does that make me a "funky account?"

There's a difference between ad hominem attacks and critical examination.

Lol, fixate and grammatical issues? Are you new to Reddit?

You are describing a typical redditor commenter. They aren't shills but they are a waste of your time to debate. That's why I keep all of my Reddit communication one-way. I have my say, move onto the post. I debate my friends, families, associates, and people that actually matter.

Remember the tactics the left is using to infiltrate... they act like lurkers and try to befriend us pedes.

PLEASE BE EXTREMELY WEARY OF INTERACTIONS LIKE THIS AND DM'S!!!!!

I'm just gonna leave this here

XPost from r/the_donald:

http://i.magaimg.net/img/cya.jpg

If they're just moving from one side to another who even cares? They're still getting fucked. Both sides are working against their own personal wellbeing and future security.

Notice the use of the racial slur "redneck." Calling a white person a "redneck" is the same thing as calling a black person "the n word."

Yet anti-whites feel perfectly fine using racial slurs against their perceived enemies.

Youre right, I remember when those white slaves used to be lynched while people called them rednecks. You're pretty fucking dumb bro.

That was a really stupid post, bro. It is completely irrelevant to the topic at hand.

What do you mean? I'm telling you that rednecks is not as offensive as nigger. That's relevant or are you too dumb to put that together?

I'm telling you that it is. Are you too dumb to realize that? Apparently so. I see that is pretty much all you have, slurs and name-calling. You sound like a real winner.

How is it the same? Have white people been whipped and lynched and used as slaves while being called rednecks? Your argument is "im telling you that it is." How retarded do you have to be to think that makes a good case? Fucking retard hahaha

What does lynching, whipping, and slavery have to do with 2017 America? You are just trying to justify your own racist bigotry. Stop the hate dude.

Are you joking? The historical context of the word has absolutely everything to do with its contemporary meaning.

What do you mean racist bigotry? Do you think I'm black? Fuck off. My great grandfather was a Nazi naval officer. I'm probably more white than you.

Are you joking?

Do you think I'm black?

Who gives a shit? I assumed you were white but what difference does it make? It ain't me making this "black vs. white" - it's you.

Just because you great grandfather was a Nazi doesn't have anything to do with me or other white people. My great grandfather defeated the Nazis so you can stick those slurs where the sun don't shine, bub.

No I'm not joking. You don't think it matters that a word that was used to denigrate black people for hundreds of years while they were beaten, exploited and killed? It was heavily backed by institutional racism Don't worry, the upvotes from replying to your nonsense are really helping offset my bad karma. How many years have rednecks been exploited, abused and killed again?

No, it doesn't matter. It's pretty rude to use racial slurs like "the n word" or "redneck" and I suggest people stop using them.

YES OF COURSE. That isn't what I'm fucking arguing you piece of shit. I'M TELLING YOU REDNECK IS NOT EVEN CLOSE TO AS BAD AS THE N WORD. It's like redneck is like retard, its inappropriate but there are way fucking worse things out there.

Don't try and make white people out to be victims like black people. You're being a fucking ignorant redneck. Seriously join the KKK.

you piece of shit

Wipe that spittle off your lips, you fanatic. You are unhinged.

I like how you quote probably the least hurtful thing I said. So I'm a fanatic because you can't reply to my argument that nigger is worse than redneck?

You are only hurting yourself. I'm not offended by anything you said and you aren't making any sort of "argument" you're just spouting hatred.

Are you serious? Why the fuck would you think I'm trying to offend you? I'm trying to have a serious debate her you fucking redneck idiot. Tell me again how redneck is on the same level as nigger?

No you are not trying to have a "serious debate" - you are trying to justify your racism and use of racial slurs by saying "well that racial slur is worse!"

Stop the hate, you are unhinged.

My racism? Dude I literally only date white girls. If anything it could be said that I'm racist for ONLY dating white girls.

Oh I get it, you need your safe space ;) I thought SJWs were bad haha

You're wasting your time - this is what he does.

I know. He's a huge shill.

LOL you are hilarious.

I guess trolling makes you feel better about your life - people need someone to hate.

You're unhinged.

Boo.. hoo? I assume you're saying I'm unhinged so that you can say I'm not worth arguing with but in actuality it is because you really don't know how to properly debate. You're probably in high school and think you're smarter than everyone.

You're probably in high school and think you're smarter than everyone.

That was really telling. About you, not me.

Sweet reply? Seriously dude you're getting way too off-topic. Tell me again why redneck is as bad as nigger?

Just because you want to pretend two things are the same doesn't make it so.

Just because you post something trite on reddit doesn't make it true.

Rule 4

Should I start reporting the guy who is calling us racists?

Yes

https://static1.fjcdn.com/comments/4663760+_4611164807626dd17e48425bcb9723e8.jpg

Redneck isn't a racial slur. It's what you get when you're a white dude working outside without sub screen.

Calling a white person a "redneck" is the same thing as calling a black person "the n word."

I feel like the fact that you feel free to say one word and yet won't even spell out the other reallllly undermines your point.

I feel like the fact that you feel free to say one word and yet won't even spell out the other reallllly undermines your point.

The fact that people use the word "redneck" and other slurs freely, while that other word is never spelled out but is identified only by its first letter, makes the opposite point you hoped to.

Apparently using racial slurs for people perceived to be "white" is fine, while "The N Word" cannot be spoken, or even spelled out, like how Jews can't say or spell "God" - it has to be spelled "G-d" lest the universe becomes angry or something.

LOL this again? Buddy, you're not going to convince anyone that redneck is as bad as nigger. You don't believe that they were slaves, you don't believe they suffered systemic racism and for some reason you think whites have it as bad as blacks. This is coming completely from your insecurities as a white man and seeing your opportunities and privileges fade. The days where a white man is always chosen over a person of colour is fading. Just learn to adapt lol

You don't believe that they were slaves

It's a little early to be that drunk, isn't it?

How else could you justify saying that redneck is as bad as nigger? There is documented proof that they suffered under the hands of whites. When did whites suffer under the hands of blacks?

Completely agree, I understand why everyone is so "on it" with checking post history, linking alt accounts etc etc, because unfortunately that is the world we live in now.

(But honestly, nothing to hide here. I just love my cat and want to try and strive for a decent life lol :D)

I'm 100% for going though peoples post history... I hope they do mine! It's a great way to make people eat their words.

What's the deal all you butt hurt Libs.

It's a left-leaning sub shilled by leftist outlets. It only even approached centrist/right-leaning due to Hillary's massive field of corruption.

Hilary's emails have taken bombed over a thousand civilians so far. They must Be stopped.

Lol. The image shows people conspiring to troll racists. That's not a conspiracy that's a hilarious pass time.

Also, judge a comment or post by its content, not by its score! I've seen good comments get downvoted into oblivion because some shill put it to 0 or -1, then it's a pile on effect and before you know its buried.

I made a benign comment that received 22 downvotes in 3 minutes last week. Exactly this

I just went to look for it and couldn't find it. Am I missing it somehow?

Revoted to like 3 or something after the brigade died down

Took some digging, but I found it. It's currently at +18 but marked "controversial".

Seems like someone didn't like that OP making the case that Hillary Clinton is a corrupt hag because "who cares, she's not the president".

https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/639lmr/blackwater_founder_de_vos_held_secret_meeting_to/dfscs2u/

It was downvoted because it was another what about Hillary comment

Case in point:

• jews made up the holocaust

• jews did 9/11

• jews are root cause of global instability, cultural marxism, and the usury cabal misruling our economies

Let's see how well this post does.

I don't visit here often so I'm trying to get a feel for what the beliefs are.

Do you believe Jew's made up the holocaust, did 9/11 and are the cause of major world issues, or no?

Absolutely, check my post history. Western society needs to embrace counter-semitism if we're to solve the actual cause of our most pressing issues as a people.

Yeah, that stuff gets downvoted because it's completely ridiculous, and you're just a bigoted cunt, not because of shills.

Ever wondered why every single society in history has hated jews? Cultural Marxism comes from the Frankfurt School, which was ran by jews. German Revolution's major players against Germany were jews.

Ever wonder why you can't get laid? It's because you say stupid shit like that.

Redditor for 1 year. Comments to back 4 days.

Yikes, guy

I delete my posts after a while, in case someone irl manages to find my username. Check back in a few days, these will all be gone :)

Sure you do. Thats toooootally normal behavior.

You have a bought account and you scrubbed the comments.

Now you'll scrub again in a few days in order to create plausible deniability.

Never implied that it was normal behavior, It's just my way of maintaining my internet privacy without having to make a new account all the time. I can leave these posts up just for you if you'd like, I won't mind if someone I know irl finds out I've been disagreeing with the idea of the Jews being the cause of all the problems in the world.

Also, if there are indeed any shill companies interested in buying this account, feel free to PM me :)

What ideas are you afraid of people seeing?

How would somebody in your life "find" your account?

You know as well as I do that brand management firms don't approach you, you approach them. ;)

I don't really post anything I'd need to hide I guess, it's more just a matter of principal. Anyone looking over my shoulder could see my username, many of my friends are redditors so I wouldn't be surprised if they decided to check out my post history if they managed to find out my username.

Then why are you hiding shit? Why would you care about your friends checking your history?

Anyone reading your comments will see that you are contradicting yourself and making shit up on the spot.

You lost this one, buddy.

Lol where did I contradict myself? Would you care if I walked into your house and just started rummaging around? By your logic, you shouldn't care, as long as you have nothing to hide.

"I delete my posts in case someone in my life finds my account."

So you're hiding shit.

"I have nothing to hide"

So you're not hiding shit.

An internet webpage is a house, now? Sounds like a massive false equivalence.

Were you posting nudes, or what? Financial information? In what way is a reddit page anything like a house? Your home is private property. Maybe you can point me to some legislation where someone was convicted of breaking and entering into someone elses reddit comment history page lol

Please, keep replying, so everyone can see the wheels in your brain spinning out. XD

You're right, a house isn't a good example, as there are legal concepts surrounding it. But you understand the principal of the matter, don't you? Would you be okay with someone standing over your shoulder while surfing the internet, watching everything you do, even if it's nothing incriminating? If you support the concept of "nothing to hide", are you okay with the massive data collection on people being done by the NSA?

Lol how is someone looking through your comments equivalent to "someone standing over your shoulder while surfing the internet, watching everything you do"

Did you post all your fetishes and favorite jerk off vids on this account? Again, did you post private financial information? If it's all just innocuous opinions that your have no problem with your friends reading, whyd you delete it? I would have no problem with anyone I know reading my reddit posts.

Lol Wait now your friends are equivalent to the federal government? Your friends work for the NSA? You realize that if the NSA is doing data collection on you, it wouldn't matter even if you deleted your comments? So literally all you're doing, according to you, is hiding shit from your "irl friends" that you don't even need to hide.

My explanation makes more sense, so I'll go with that. =)

Way to avoid actually answering any of my questions. Clearly you don't want to admit that there's nothing wrong with me enjoying my own personal privacy, regardless of whether or not I'm "hiding" anything, so you simply try to deviate away from any of my actual points by arguing on technicalities surrounding them, rather than the actual point I'm making, which is pretty clear to anyone with half a brain, yourself included.

Way to avoid answering any of my questions. Guess you're a hypocrite in addition to being a liar. :)

Of course theres nothing wrong with enjoying privacy, however, in the context of this situation, your desire for "privacy" makes no sense. People want privacy in their homes so strangers can't watch them shit and fuck. So people can't watch them sleep. People want privacy for all their online browsing because they don't want strangers having access to their financial information or reading emails about their mistress or their erectile dysfunction.

This is a website where you put up opinions or post links that are publicly viewable. The only reason for you to delete you comments here is if you are afraid of people reading your comments. So, either you are afraid of your friends seeing your opinions, or you scrubbed a newly acquired account of opinions that might have conflicted with the narrative you're preparing to push with this account.

Literally the only other person I've ever heard pull the "I delete my comments every once in a while" crap is another relatively young account, here on /r/conspiracy, who was blatantly pushing narratives.

I also find it funny that you say it's your way of maintaining privacy without having to make a new account "all the time" as if the 15 seconds it takes to make a new account was more burdensome than going through and deleting all your comments. Makes perfect sense!

One more thing. For a guy who is so detached from what he posts that he deletes his comments regularly, you sure seem to care a lot about your comments. I first saw this reply when I was about to walk out the door and couldn't respond, so I left the tab open. It said "3 hours ago" with no edit asterisk when I opened it back up. By the time I started writing this, there was an asterisk. So, you came back 3 hours later to this post to edit in a single comma. Haha, yes, that was the edit you made. You put a comma after 'point I'm making'.

Lol, man, you seem reaaallly concerned about your comments. Way more than the average reddit user. And the average reddit user doesn't claim to delete everything !!1! , either.

Interesting stuff you guys do.

You know you hold some fucked up views and opinions if you're scared someone irl will figure out your reddit name.

If they truly believed the shit their spewing they shouldn't be trying to hide it. It also says a lot about their integrity and character.

Anyone who doesn't stand up for what they believe in are a complete waste of time.

The only thing that would potentially be weird is if i posted any nsfw photos, which I don't have to worry about. And those could easily be purged while leaving everything else up.

Exactly. Either hes doing some really weird shit on reddit or its a bought account.

Your comments lack any sort of argument and are chalk full of ad hominem. Come on man.

If I need to spell out why blaming the Jews for all the bad things going on in the world is retarded, anyone I'd be tying to convince is too stupid to handle an actual argument.

You are acting too stupid to handle an argument in this comment chain

The type of person who thinks Jews should be forcibly removed from the US isn't going to be convinced by any argument from a random person in the internet, regardless of the logic behind the argument. I'm not going to waste my time formulating a proper argument in that scenario.

I doubt you could formulate a proper argument in any scenario

Eh, I could, but I'm lazy.

Yet you still come in here and tell everyone you could and then don't. Sounds like you just react angrily to the topic due to cognitive dissonance.

I mean, I've been pretty consistent with everything I've said, which is that I'm too lazy to write up an essay on why the Jews aren't an evil race of people trying to conquer the world, so I just resort to calling someone with that mindset a cunt. That's pretty much the complete opposite of cognitive dissonance, or do you not know the actual definition of that word and simply use to describe any sort of faulty logic?

You must be tired from all those gymnastics

You must be as lazy as I am, unable to form coherent arguments :)

I'm not the one making claims and then providing nothing to back them up. You have no argument besides how it makes you feel

How about I go ahead and make another claim without bothering to back it up: you're a cunt who doesn't understand the definition of cognitive dissonance.

You seem awfully aggressive. Almost like someone who is being confronted with a view that contradicts their beliefs.

Which beliefs are those

Jews aren't an evil race of people trying to conquer the world

That's your belief.

Reality isn't quite so nice

I'm not saying you're wrong about blaming the jews for everything, I 100% agree with you. The elite power structure is more than just the jews. I just think attacking someone, rather than their arguments is wrong. It creates division amongst us, which is exactly what TPTB want.

Rule 4

Lmao. Every single society? That's literally bullshit. Quantifiable bullshit. Maybe you guys are super young and so you don't know a lot of history, idk. But that shit is so ignorant lol.

Enlighten me and change my ways.

It's the zionists that are the root of all that is evil, not Jews in general. However, the holocaust does seem to have been grossly exaggerated, there is a huge amount of evidence regarding Israeli/Mossad involvement in 9/11 and the banking cabals that pretty much rule the world are for the most part owned by zionist Jews (rothschild etc). It's not being anti-semetic to ask questions of bad people - the fact that some bad people are Jewish is just the way it is. Fucks me off that the anti-semitism thing has become such an effective shield....

If you read ANY of Mein Kampf or The Protocols of the Elders of Zion you will quickly see the similarities they hold with our current world...

https://youtu.be/Dda-0Q_XUhk

Friendly reminder: look at who owns hollywood, the media, politicians, look at what universities are pushing, study the origins of the communist revolution in Russia, look at the media's treatment of mccarthy and look at the pro-soviet propaganda during the war period.

The Protocols have been completly debunked. The first time I read them I knew they were bullshit: https://skeptoid.com/episodes/4271

does it matter if they have been "debunked"

of course trillionaires would "debunk" them

so daft, aren't you?

it doesn't matter if they have been "debunked" its contents written over 100 years ago, present our current reality.

Neo-Nazi logic.

Besides if a trillionaire, pedophile or a Saint debunked the Protocols they are still debunked regardless of who debunked them. Do you actually know what the meaning of the word debunked means?

You blame everything on "Jews" and than say "but not all Jews please don't call me an anti Semite". So what do I call you? Moron?

he said zionist

Rule 4

Sry..

It's not the fucking "zionists". I'm in favour of strong counter-semitism, and I'd say I'm also a zionist - I don't want the gas chambers, I want the spectre of semitism confined to the country we created for them at enormous expense to ourselves.

So you're in favor of kicking people out of the US based on nothing more than their ethnic background. Got it.

Oh definitely, long list there. We had a ~90% European country 50 years ago. We need to get back there somehow, and I'd prefer peaceful ethnic cleansing over the alternative.

Lol 90% ok.

African Americans often have lived more generations in America than the average "European" American.

But good luck living in a world that will never go your way. Must be frustrating for you pls dont go on a shooting spray because you're triggered thx

Being "European" is cultural by the way. You're not born with it. Race is a social construct but I understand that you fell for propaganda it's ok!

Lol 90% ok.

85% in 1960. If you feel 90% is too absurd, that's fine, I'll take 85% as a compromise if you promise the 5% will be pure Chinamen and/or Japanese, no latinx or semites.

Being "European" is cultural by the way.

If a dog is born in a stable, it's still a dog. Race is real, no matter how hard the jews tell you to pretend otherwise.

Are you implying a person from Poland and a person from the Netherlands are part of the same cultural group?

This is pathetic dude. You are you and you're not part of some superior group where you belong to from birth.

Are you implying a person from Poland and a person from the Netherlands are part of the same cultural group?

No, I'm implying they and their descendants are both European, whereas someone with no European ancestors is not.

You are you and you're not part of some superior group where you belong to from birth.

When you bring "superiority" into it, the jews often treat it as though it were some inherent, abstract concept that can be refuted morally. When we speak of "racial superiority", we're talking about clear, objective measures such as time preference, agency, social trust, etc. I don't care if you have a moral aversion to the notion of superior and inferior peoples. The only morality is civilisation.

Dude there is just 1 human race so whatever you say just sounds incredibly stupid to me.

It's like a religious person trying to make me believe in god.

Wait, do people actually use this argument non-ironically? I thought bullshit like "human race" and "race is a social construct" were just racist caricatures of anti-racists. You can't honestly be this retarded?

I'd prefer peaceful ethnic cleansing over the alternative.

Not a condemnation of other alternatives, a fucking preference. Ever wonder why people call alt-righters pieces of shit? This comment right here is the perfect example.

You know what's funny about this? You are never going to get what you want. Welcome to the world, it changes, and people move. Cultures grow, and ethnic groups change. Fuck your pure blood thinking bullshit.

Not a condemnation of other alternatives, a fucking preference.

Speaking for myself, I would prefer to first establish a lawful pretext for peaceful ethnic cleansing, since any high-trust European society should value the rule of law and the submission to lawful authority. This is how our societies have always worked, best, when everyone knows their place, obeys their superiors and can expect obedience from their subordinates. If we throw that out to play race war, we're bound to end up as savage as the peoples we seek to cleanse.

Recently I found this and have been watching through it.

I'm keeping very open minded and to be honest this series does get a bit anti semitic and pushes the "facts" very hard. (I'm not in a position to say fact or not). Gotta remember theres always 2 sides to a story, and with alot of history you get told one / the victors side.

I'm only part way through and feel like its ripping everything in two in my life that I "understood", will watch it all this weekend.

Hope it is of some use. Even just from understanding how some people see things differently, or how bad religion in general is, or whatever you want to take away from it. https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLAumT9m96cNkYe7y-NZt0L1T7_wWbJLgL

It's going to be nigh impossible to get a feel for "what the beliefs are," as they are extremely varied. There's no general consensus here, just lots of discussion and sharing of information. It's important to use your own critical thinking skills and decide for yourself what you believe. Proof is important and of course always consider the source.

Lmao. Awesome.

B... But when a comment has gold, thats what I'm supposed to think and agree with! Gold can't be questioned!

Common ShareBlue tactic. Thinking guilding a comment means anything

to gild is to cover with a thin layer of metal

guild is a group of people

ShareBlue will downvote new posts to stop momentum on redpill posts and comments

I was once redpilled so hard I could see the inside of my own small intestine

Nope. A shill will keep you held just under the surface. Your doofus mouth will cause a pile on effect.

Beat it, pussy. You can only run your mouth on the internet because irl you're a bitch! Bahahaha

I've noticed this too

Well new is also cluttered with trash

Then go to rising.

Rising is like mini-hot :V

Back to square 1

Also, if you sort by "controversial" you will see all the posts related to Pres. Trump.

Whodathunkit

Yeah, there are a ton of conspiracys against Trump but every sincenT_D started brigading this subreddit they downvote anything that makes their god emperor look bad...

not disagreeing - but the subs mods are extremely strict about removing posts that point to another sub or order a brigade

lots of people in T_D browse here - that's a fact, but there is no organized brigade

they upvote/downvote based on their opinions rather than quality-of-the-content, but there is no organized brigade

Lol.

does anyone on reddit do otherwise?

...

I'm pretty sure 95% of the entite website does this. It'll look like a brigade to a passive observer, but there's (probably) nobody orchestrating it.

It doesn't even need to be orchestrated to happen in the first place.

The fact that you got down voted so hard is a perfect indication of this.

I thought the comment was pretty neutral too lol

Hahaha. No. Because ShareBlue continually posts garbage anti trump shit, normal r/conspiracy users fucking hate thay shit, so those posts become controversial due to calling out all the ShareBlue shills.

Normal conspiracy users (aka pre-election and t_d folks) also hate the pro trump spam posts here.

Just cause it may paint the god emperor in a bad light doesnt mean it shouldnt be posted here.

TD folks don't congregate here. Just normal, sane people that don't like ShareBlue shills dirtying up the subreddit and want HRC corruption oit.

BUTTERY MALES

Yeah. Your downvotes evidence how well you fit into the sub...

Just normal, sane people that don't like ShareBlue shills dirtying up the subreddit and want HRC corruption out

She's not the president. She lost. Her corruption is out. Meanwhile there are real conspiracies unfolding surrounding the actual president, but because he's your god/daddy/emperor you don't care. Sad.

TD folks don't congregate here. Just normal, sane people that don't like ShareBlue shills dirtying up the subreddit and want HRC corruption out

HOW DO YOU DO, FELLOW CONSPIRACY ENTHUSIASTS

tips tinfoil hat M'conspirator

I always upvote any post that is about a conspiracy that is not about politics. Even if I think the theory is stupid.

ShareBlue doesn't exist. Neither does Santa Claus.

Sorry to ruin your friday

Are you fucking blind?

shareblue.com

They routinely post and upvote links to their own domain and admit to what they're doing publicly. The problem is nobody cares.

You're arguing with one of them.

Lol

You know I made a post a few days ago about the chemical attack in Syria being a false flag coordinated by Trump and Putin to throw off the FBI and distract from any potential collusion with Russia but it got downvoted to hell.

I pointed out this was a possibility to a few people that asserted the tensions brought on by the attacks were evidence Trump wasn't working with Putin.

And Assad didn't even need to be in London the chemical attacks, maybe it was planned out by Putin to throw Assad under the bus and distract from the FBI investigation? Whatever it was, it merits discussion on a conspiracy sub.

I think there is plenty about Trump that is conspiracy worthy.

There obviously is. The biggest gold mine of our lifetimes. But we also can't force people who believed in him to open their mind to it, no matter how many of his advisors resign.

They're still posting that Russian interference is a hoax, even though Trump's SecState openly discussed it this week. Best not to waste the energy.

Honestly, I'm not particularly opposed to being friendlier with Russia. We get along with many nations. Why not them too?

A lot of what happened between us was mostly based on posturing and misunderstanding. I read War and Peace in the Nuclear age way back when I was in school. It explained a few things that made most of what happened after WWII make sense. We cut Russia out of most of the partnership we had with our other allies. It's no wonder that they joined us in the arms race.

Yeah, Stalin cutting a deal with Hitler was more than a bit shady but Stalin ruled from an old school perspective. He wasn't concerned about what Hitler did as long as Hitler didn't attack his country.

Yeah America really did fuck Russia after the war. I think that with what we know about the Earth and the universe today that we are all just humans on a big rock floating through space we should really try to work together as nations.

Ronald Reagan said pretty much that in a speech once. If there were an outside threat from a true alien race the people of Earth would find that they really aren't all that different and unite to fight the aliens.

Sure hope it doesn't come to that before we figure out how to get along.

Dr. Steve Greer says that a false flag alien invasion has been planned. YouTube him. Wild stuff.

When Steven Greer first came out with his incredible National Press Club briefing where all those military and professional people stood up and said I've seen extra terrestrial vehicles I really thought he was going to do something. Now it's what 16 years later and nada zilch nothing. All he does now is take people's money for appearances, seminars, and other more personalized retreats and activities. He's probably making 10 times what he was making as a doctor without all of the stress. He's commercialized everything and turned it into a weird cult like organization. He's the L Ron Hubbard of the UFO community.

"We've always been at war with Eurasia"

As soon as rex tillerson left russia putin arrested a ton of "political opponents".

Putin does this all the time, and every time I have to engage in an argument with someone who is either a shill, or who loves Trump and therefore Putin by extension, I just point to this.

They're arresting political opponents. Not terrorists. Not criminals. People who oppose Putin politically.

I mean, for fuck's sake. If you knew nothing else about Putin, that would be fucked up enough. Nevermind that the really obstinate opponents have a high rate of "accidental death".

This is fucked up. The fact we're normalizing it, that we have a President that just shrugs and tolerates it, as if that's simply OK in a world power with millions of people, is absurd.

Not knowing Russian political figures and what they might have done, yes it does sound really fucked up. However I do know some politicians in the USA that I would cheer for their arrest and trial. So...we need more info to make a decision.

No - these people are not even being accused of specific crimes. They are arrested because they are politically opposed to Putin. That's their crime. And there's no trial, that's not what's happening here.

It's as if Trump suddenly had all the Democrats arrested in Congress - or Obama had had all the Republicans arrested - and then locked away, with no mention of their actual crimes and no real trial.

No, no we don't.

These are innocent people man!

Their only crime is belonging to the wrong political party!

This would be like donald trump arresting every democrat in congress, putin is a dangerous and evil person and he needs to be stopped just as much as north korea and kim do!!!

The issue is you need to point out the right conspiracy. There was a clear mutual goal between Putin and Trump of destroying establishment politics, yes. However there really isn't a clear connection between Putin and Trump right now and the more time goes on, the more obvious it seems that most of Wikileaks was whistleblowers and not Russian hackers. So not an obvious angle there. But Jared Kushner and Chabad Lubavitch? Big ties, yes! Steve Mnuchin and Skull and Bones? You bet! The Supreme Court judge he picked was a Jesuit, Paul Manafort has Ukrainian ties, but which one is it that has him compromised then?

That's where I stop reading further for most conspiracies about him. There are lots of little bits of powerful deep state elements in his cabinet, but before pointing fingers the issue is making a clear narrative that follows any individual path. Trump, Bannon, Steve Piecnezik (at least earlier in the campaign?) and Cambridge Analytica are evidently experts at thriving in dis-iniformation environments, like Putin. That makes it way too hard to pin down who owns who.

At this rate, we will be seeing articles like this against Trump and Putin, alleging they work for Chabad Lubavitch, and this one saying Putin is the enemy of the Khazarian Mafia - which one is it?

It was a goldmine either way the election had gone

Want to hear my theory? Israel wants a conflict in that region, with hopefully a break down in relations with Iran. They'd love it if Trump engaged in a nice simmering conflict with Syria. He was praised and cosseted after that missile strike after a cold honeymoon.

That thread got down voted because it is not good content. There are people on this sub, that provide real information to support conspiracy. That thread reeks of alt-right propaganda as well as compromise of other sorts.

It is simply not enough to state, "why would Assad do that, what does he have to benefit?" There is plenty of concrete evidence to suggest someone with the last name Assad would gas their own people, up to and including he has already done it before.

Well, I see where people would downvote your post just because it's speculation with a couple articles. People are quick to dismiss CNN, so it's hard to get them as a source people believe. I think with your posts, some people didn't agree with it and downvoted and it just didn't go anywhere. I doubt it was Trump shills looking to counter any bad news being conspired against Trump.

It's pretty disgusting that citing CNN articles gets you downvoted but using Sputnik and Russia Today as sources get you upvotes to the front page here.

I don't think any of them should be sources. Doesn't matter if it is fox, CNN, msnbc, rt, breitbart, they are all biased to their side and will turn stories to push their narrative. It's not about reporting facts anymore.

Um. Okay? What sources should be used then?

Associated Press, Reuters, there are sources that aren't as blatantly bullshit as Russia Today and HuffPo.

Do the research and find out, why do you have to be told where to look for information?

Translation: I have no idea, I just like to shit on things for being broken and offer no solutions, now go fuck yourself.

Re-translation for people who's panties aren't in a bunch: Look for the primary sources attached to any news article to verify things yourself, stop using any source thats misrepresenting things too often

Would that have been too hard to say the first time instead of being a complete dick for no reason? You throw out every well-known source that you don't personally believe should be used because of bias, and I'm the asshole for asking what you think should be used?

Whatever, have a good weekend.

I'm a different person than the other guy

Dammit, sorry.

And thanks.

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If you completely ignore the last line I wrote, sure.

whoa he should be president!

Yes, I am just shitting on things and I know nothing about it. I stopped watching MSM over 10 years ago because it was so flawed. I turned to other media sources, more independent sources. The point of my post was to get you to make up your own mind and find your own sources so YOU know what is what, instead of me telling you to go here and listen to this person or that person, think for yourself and find your material. That is all I am saying. If you want to think that is me telling you to fuck off, then by all means, but think for your self and think outside of the box.

As I keep saying, check out AllSides and Media Bias/Fact Check.

I hadn't heard of either before, thanks. AllSides looks like a really good way to get out of my echo chamber and better understand the other side.

My concern with Allsides is, that there isn't one left wing view nor is there only one right wing view. As a progressive, there are many things I don't agree with fellow democrats about

Nothing's perfect, but these two sites are the best attempts I've seen of categorizing news outlets in a useful way. Media Bias seems to do their own cataloging. AllSides has a voting system. You can go on there and vote.

While reality is much more nuanced than a simple left or right spectrum, there is definitely still some use for these services.

There are people, including plenty in this sub, who have their perspective skewed by extremist media. To them, centrist publications appear to be extremist on the other side. For instance, people who read Breitbart think NPR is leftist propaganda. It's clearly not. Any centrist can see that. However, without a unbiased group to point to that does their best effort to categorize these things, there is nothing to point to to back you up when you say it's centrist.

A hilarious example of this is that the NYT is characterized as "left-wing" on Syria.

LOL

I appreciate the intent of a site like AllSites, but I agree with you that you need to drill down a lot more to truly get to an all-sided perspective.

you are not considering international perspective of various stripes.

Good point.

That's why I don't trust any sources about current events except for the screaming inside my head. #MAGA

Don't forget Yournewswire.com, a website that routinely makes it to the front page despite the fact that its owner was an intern for David Icke and it posts articles about Justin Bieber being a lizard person.

But the serious truthseekers here only want to seek the truth.

Well, I see where people would downvote your post just because it's speculation with a couple articles

And that's different than any other post that makes it to that top? This is a sub about conspiracies

Yes, and go through the posts and how many are from CNN? Many many times has CNN been talked about with their collusion with the DNC? There is a trust level that you should have with any news source. Yes, this sub is about conspiracies, they are not about pushing a conspiracy based on something CNN has reported.

"CNN talked about it so it can't be an actual conspiracy" sure is a good way to arbitrarily dismiss an idea someone doesn't personally like

And did I say that or are you just making what I said into your words to make me out to be something I am not. Whatever you want to do or believe, it's your life, go do it!

I'm not "making you into" anything, just pointing out the flaw in your reasoning

And I'm pointing out that you quoted me with something I never said.

Break down for me how the comment I was paraphrasing could mean anything else

Because it is possible for CNN to report on a conspiracy, they just won't be the ones to break the story.

That is not what you said before, so that does not dispute my paraphrase

Cool glad you think so.

70% like it. I wouldn't really call that downvoted to hell

It's got upvotes since I have posted the link in my original comment but it was sitting at like 0 points when I initially posted.

This is one possibility for sure.

Tulsi Gabbard was sanctioned for requesting an investigation into the gas attack before engaging in military conflict.

Well russia has been asking for a investigation into it and saying its a false flag. If it was a false flag, why would they do that?

There will no 'investigation', you watch.

There will be, but it will be so far down the line to likely be inconclusive. The people who play these games learned far on "Iraq has WMDs": there can't be enough evidence available to disprove. It's much easier to stage an attack than it is to produce a production facility.

Or maybe people think the Russian connection is retarded and don't want to hear more.

This is a conspiracy sub right?

There are several FBI investigations going on but that connection is retarded and Pizzagate which we have no proof of yet is not retarded?

Yeah governments totally haven't covered up for pedophiles before and the FBI never does anything questionable.

It is not T_D brigading. They don't organize and tell people to come here. Why do you see their influence then? They were already here. They were here before T_D existed. You should be able to determine this if you have eyes and are capable of processing the information they receive.

In a more rigorous sense, look at the similarity use this calculator to find T_D's similarity to subreddits. You should not be surprised by the score you see.

They came here during the election campaign, and were using a google extension hack to ensure that all that all the pizzagate hysteria posts and Clinton were at the top and anything that exposed Trump was downvoted and buried.

Dude, I have been on this sub for years and was on the Donald since the start. I have never see a post telling people to go to a sub, the opposite actually. The moderators told the Donald subreddit to not even bring up the politics subreddit or you could be banned from Reddit for overpowering a sub. I can't agree with what you said because these group raids don't happen there. Now, it is possible that people were on here before the Donald, like the previous post states, and if there was a large group of users, then you will see certain posts move up. Pizzagate was a big thing that is still developing and IS a conspiracy and really came out when Podesta's emails were released. That. Ring said, pizzagate isn't something that the Donald subreddit came up with, nor do they claim to be the ones that broke it.

The greasemonkey script was propagated on /pol/ IIRC.

This dude has to be an anti-Donald shill. Absolute clown making up wild claims with 0 proof. Sounds familiar right?

Sounds like a lot of far left I have talked to.

Exactly. Spewing straight bs as usual

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What they were doing was asking for upvotes to get the post to /r/all and the mod was stickying the post. They also used this extension to automatically upvote all posts and comments in t_d which is how so many of their posts got to /r/all so fast (within a few minutes of each other) and why they had so many comment upvotes within each post in such a short space of time.

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Ok, so your cross post is from 9 months ago, and like I said the mods brought it to the attention of users and get banned now for brigading. Do you have a source that pizzagate is all just some thing made up by 4chan? Because I have seen tons of evidence not on 4chan by independent investigators and show some crazy coincidences. If you don't want to believe in pizzagate that fine, but you can't deny kids are being kidnapped and killed based on the arrests we have seen recently. I don't care if shills want to downvote me, but the Donald does not opening brigade subs like some other subs have done to the Donald. I've been on Reddit long enough to see how this shit works and people will branch out from their subs to defend their ideas on other subs. Because a guy posts a screen shot on Reddit about 4 comments and the names are blocked out but his, you are going to blame the subreddit for people looking st the post history and seeing where the post came from? Do we just eliminate post history for other people to see?

kids are being kidnapped and killed based on the arrests we have seen recently

Can you elaborate on that, please? I've not been paying much attention recently.

that was invented on 4chan, moved to t_d, then to conspiracy. This happened during the vote brigading by t_d

As a person who thinks Trump is pathetic, I think other guy is right in this instance. You can argue it was happening previously, but the OP is about current practice.

It stands to reason that because the majority of users here support Trump, they're going to downvote Russia connection storylines. Just as it stands to reason that politics users like me will downvote a Brietbart submission.

There's no reason for a scheme when one side or other have the numbers. And Trump has the numbers here.

There just doesn't seem to be any need for manipulation when a couple hundred people one way or the other decide the fate of posts here.

(Same reason I've argued it's ridiculous that anyone would care to invest money in manipulating this sub. The return on investment is just minuscule if it's free...preposterous if it's any spend at all. Yes, this is a contest, but it's just a small contest among users, most of whom already have their minds made up about everything.)

Hahaha what a WILD accusation. You have 0 proof of that, I frequent T_D and ive been a part of this sub since before the election started, not ONCE have I ever heard of any "google ext. hack" fuck off shill.

You have no sense of proportion if you think some IRC chats which are so invisible that most T_D users would have no idea about them caused the demographics of this subreddit to change so dramatically. That is very lazy reasoning. A hand-waving explanation. The massive overlap between the subreddits can't be explained away like that.

If anything, this sub is more liberal now because Trump won and so it is now more permissible for the left to talk about the evil government. But all conspiracy theory communities overwhelmingly support Trump. The users here have always had the same tendencies as T_D. They have always overwhelmingly had the same style of rhetoric, reasoning, and beliefs and it is completely natural that so many gravitate towards Trump and T_D.

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Until its actively advertised on the sub, it hasnt done shit. I know its the same as the "russians hacked muh election" bullshit. Its a way of trying to silence people because you dislike what they say

All posts which have these "google extension hack" never get any traction

They don't promote brigading in the sub because it's against Reddit rules. They organize on places like discord.

Is there any proof of that or are you just assuming theyre brigading? There are POTUS supporters all over this sub, the only ones brigading are the Hillbots and anti-truth shills. Not trying to be rude or anything im genuinely curious.

On the flipside, if we wanted to anti-Trump articles, conspiracy or otherwise, there's r/politics and the rest of Reddit

I do think r/conspiracy should not be ruined by playing political favorities, but I'm already beginning to see alot of anti-Trump comments being upvoted here anyway. But to each his own

I'm a trump fan but I'm pretty okay with that. Now that it's not an election I'm happy to see conspiracies from all sides of the isle, since an anti-trump agenda doesn't exactly have a clear goal (versus anti-trump articles being posted explicitly to help clinton win, before november). And the pro-trump spin is always around the corner at t_d

On the flipside, if we wanted to read anti-Trump articles, conspiracy or otherwise, there's r/politics and the rest of Reddit. If there were more here, fine... it would just be that I wouldn't be able to tell what subreddit I'm on if the pendulum swung into the other direction too far

Okay, but this is not meant to be an anti-/r/politics sub or the sub that is the opposite of the rest of Reddit or whatever. This is a conspiracy sub. Whether or not its posting similar things to any other sub is completely unrelated, as long as its posting about conspiracies.

Trump supporters honestly seem to want this as a "safe space", arguing that if people don't want to be part of their Trump safe space, they have the rest of Reddit. That's not what /r/conspiracy is.

Yep, just like your post... rofl you're delusional.

Huh?

Fucking zombie Jesus...it's like a different sub...

It's fucking mind blowing. False flag attacks, firing up the war train to save his presidency, endless connections to Russia, internal fighting.

The Trump presidency is this subs wet dream.

Yeah but... LIBRULS

and

HERE MALES

No. More like HRC and CNN colluding to rig the primaries, DNC not lifting a finger to help a Berner Congressmen, and the elite pedophile ring involving Hillary and Jerry Epstein.

Those are a bigger conspiracy than starting wars, the biggest political scandal in world history, and the inner workings of easily the worst presidency in U.S.??? Oh and Trump's complete 180 on many of his campaign positions. Oh and Russia influencing our elections and having social media teams.

There is no pedo ring and certainly not one involving Hillary. But Trump is well connected to a known pedo. So I guess we'll include "an elite pedophile network involving Trump and Epstein".

After all, "yet another “Jane Doe” filed a suit in New York accusing Epstein and Donald Trump of raping her at a series of sex parties when she was only 13."

I could be mistaken but pretty sure no one has accused Hillary of raping them. Guess it's time for you to dismiss all the pedo stuff since it directly implicates Trump.

Lol 2016. Grasping at straws. Pathetic and embarassing attempt at spreading disinfo.

So you're actively stating Hillary is involved in a pedo ring but simultaneously denying Trump is when he is literally mentioned in court documents as raping a 13 yr old along with a pedo you just mentioned?

That's your position? That's some incredible mental gymnastics. You must be the star of the mental gymnastics Olympic team.

You're disagreeing with him. You must be one of those Shareblue shills they can't shut up about.

Dude If mental gymnastics was an Olympic sport, Trump supporters would always get the gold medal. Probably silver and bronze too.

You forgot about the participation medals.

Remember a few months ago all the rape/sexual harassment accusations against Trump? Remember how every single one of them was proven false? Remember how people connected the accusers to the DNC?

Remember a few months ago all the rape/sexual harassment accusations against Trump? Remember how every single one of them was proven false?

That sounds an awful lot like all of the accusations made against Hilary Clinton for decades and yet people continue to talk about how corrupt she is, when they can't point to even one crime she's ever been charged with and convicted of.

Gonna need sources. Some of them are still in the courts.

Yes, the DNC scandal should be bigger than Russia. The DNC is at least as guilty of the same crimes and that is only using public evidence.

Yes, the DNC scandal should be bigger than Russia. The DNC is at least as guilty of the same crimes and that is only using public evidence.

More importantly, if you're not advocating resolution on yesterday's crimes, why even bother with today's or tomorrow's? If Hillary won't be held accountable, at that point, what difference does it make? The effort itself to forget about Hillary and pivot to Trump seems like an act from CTR or similar.

This is exactly what my problem is with Russia and Clinton.

They are all big conspiracies. Also what President hasnt done a 180 on their campaign promises. They all feed us what we want to hear then once in office they change their mind, or "I can't get you x because the other side is blocking me" well then don't promise us x. But so many people fall for the same shit over and over.

As for influencing elections. We do the same shit, so hate to say it but we got a taste of our own medicine if they did. Pay backs are a bitch

Then Hillary may not have her name tied directly to Epstein like her husband(who has flwon in his plane and been to the island just like trump and many other rich and famous people) but she and huma abedin did show interested in laura silsby Who tried to take kids out of Haiti without following proper protocols. I know that as kidnapping, and thats not cool. I believe there are other connections to her and Hillary but I can't find them.

As far as the whole situation goes, no one is perfect and all presidential candidates make promises they cant keep. The Clinton's and trump are not innocent in any way.

I hope none of this, literally, blows up in our faces. Its a shit show of a situation here.

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I don't care if we do the same shit. No American should. I support the United States above all else. I want American interests furthered. I want America to remain THE works superpower.

If you don't, you're a shitty American or you aren't American.

The rest of your comment was more justification for an anti American agenda or defense of absurd viewpoints.

There is a pedo ring, and Hillary is certainly involved. Bill Clinton personally went to Haiti to get a child trafficker off the hook.

Got proof for that last claim? Pretty sure you might have a slight case of the fake news

And guess who else. That's right, Donald Trump. Weird how that never gets mentioned. It's almost like it's a big political thing. But what kind of scumbag accuses their political adversaries of being a pedo? That's right, Trump supporters.

Well, it sure looks like Trump has decided to cover for them even if he wasn't initially involved.

He's accused of raping a 13 yr old with Epstein. Among other things. He's more than involved, he's a perpetrator. But you'd never know that from the PG nuts.

Link?

yet another “Jane Doe” filed a suit in New York accusing Epstein and Donald Trump of raping her at a series of sex parties when she was only 13."

yet another

That suit was dropped, if I recall correctly. Still, I wouldn't put it past him.

There's more than one. He was also accused of raping a 12 yr old. There's also witnesses.

There's wayyyyyy more validity to that than pg.

And there's plenty of other sexual assault allegations against Trump, so take your pick. And before anyone says it's women looking for a payout, there's lots of rich men that haven't been accused dozens of times of sexual assault.

The rapist and pedo people support but have no problem accusing others based on a pizza logo when it's politically convenient.

More.

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CPP is a pedo haven, whatever Trump has done.

CPP?

Comet Pizza and Pasta.

But no evidence of that. See you'll gladly accept anything that suggests that but easily dismiss lawsuits filed against Trump, with multiple accusers and witnesses.

Incredible.

Mountains upon mountains of evidence, vs. Some sketchy lawsuits that have all been dropped, and an accuser who admitted they were paid to slander Trump. I mean, voat has been digging for months now, and we've found dozens of connections to CPP, pedophilia, and the Clintons, but not many links to Trump. That's not to say he's innocent, just that the evidence isn't there. Also, there have been more pedos arrested in Trumps first three months than in Obama's entire 8 years.

Source that she admitted to being paid?

I mean, voat has been digging for months now, and we've found dozens of connections to CPP, pedophilia, and the Clintons, but not many links to Trump.

No. Go ahead and link them. Besides a logo and some incredible mental gymnastics deciphering emails there is nothing.

But go ahead, you'll be the first to provide me with the mountains of evidence connecting Hillary to pedophilia.

That's not to say he's innocent, just that the evidence isn't there. Also, there have been more pedos arrested in Trumps first three months than in Obama's entire 8 years.

Source on more pedos arrested under Trump than Obama? I mean is actually a pedo so that would be weird.

I don't have time to dig it up right now, but it's on the archived pizzagate sub if you want to dig a bit.

I'm not a Trump supporter, btw. If he's guilty then hang him. What I am is a voater who has followed pizzagate from day one, and I have yet to see much evidence involving Trump. He was in Epstein's black book, but never flew on the Loli express.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-02-16/feds-make-record-gains-human-trafficking-global-networks-broken

I'm trying to be amicable here but you're making it hard. Yet again, a pg theorist uses absolutely no common sense.

I could tell you weren't, which is why this is weird.

This article doesn't back up that claim. It's absurd to think in 3 months there's been more pedo arrests than in the past 8 years. It's even more absurd to think Trump had anything to do with that. Local law enforcement is not receiving directions from the White House.

It's even more absurd to do easily dismiss claims that Trump is a pedo and sexual predator when there have been actual accusations against him. You gleefully accept the entire pg narrative but then immediately dismiss claims against Trump. It defies any bit of common sense. Trump was very close to Epstein, which is your smoking gun against Clinton.

Once again: I'm not a Trump supporter.

And that's weird because you're so quick to dismiss more damning allegations against him while accepting ridiculous connections between Hillary and pg.

Did you know that Bill Clinton flew on the loli express more than twenty times? Or that Jeffrey Epatein considers himself the cofounder of the Clinton Foundatipn? Yes, maybe Trump has some ties to Pedogate (although I haven't personally seen much evidence of that). The Clintons are smack in the middle of it.

First off, it's Lolita Express. I don't give a fuck about the Clintons. Trump is the president. Maybe try focusing on him...

Did you know Trump is just as close to Epstein as the Clintons? But don't take my word for it, take Trump's:

“I’ve known Jeff for fifteen years. Terrific guy,” Trump told New York Magazine for a 2002 profile of Epstein. “He’s a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side. No doubt about it — Jeffrey enjoys his social life.”

That was 15 years ago. So Trump's known him for 30 years. Then there's accusations of rape by a 12 and 13 year old.

But you don't mention that. Because you're a hypocrite. You don't care about reality. You use pedo accusations as a political tool. It's appalling and disgusting. But that's what you do.

I'm not a believer in Hillary & Co being involved in pedophilia, but you can't say there are not pedo rings for the rich and elite. It's all over. Hollywood, England. Employees of DynCorp were caught having sex with, and trafficking, young girls in Bosnia.

You yourself mentions Epstein, that is evidence right there.

He clearly didn't say those groups exist. He said those groups very much exist, and our president was raping young girls before the white house

Yeah I'm sure there are. People are sick. But when it's used as a way to discredit your political opponents, by calling them pedos, it's absolutely disgusting. Not only are you prohibiting progress on ending child trafficking and pedo crimes, you're just a huge piece of shit.

Hillary has been accused of molesting an individual actually.

Source?

https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/65c6vl/please_dont_only_browse_hot_but_keep_an_eye_on/dg9mppp/

Hahahahah

Well played.

No, it was the Lizard People all along! And They don't molest the kids, They eat them, on pizzas!

Hey... you do know that cold blooded creatures prefer warmer climates, right?

🍕

Didn't WikiLeaks publish extensive proof that the whole Russia thing was fabricated?

Doesn't Wikileaks have extensive connections to Russia, going back years? When's the last time they released something detrimental to Russia?

A little common sense goes a long way.

err do you have any links to the leaks that show the proof?

No. They had evidence that indicates the CIA can make some attacks look a like they were done by a different country (but doesn't specifically apply to the DNC hack according to what netsec people are saying), which Wikikeaks talked up in their summary, and has been twisted in a game of chinese whispers.

Always ShareBlue posting propaganda and trying to spread disinfo in this sub.

exactly! we need to see those new posts, people need to read them and then do nothing about the issues they contain as well!

Yea, because they're all fake news garbage.

Knights of New!

Be mindful of bullshit too though, scrolling through the new section is a lot of Nazi/Alt-Right garbage in there. No doubt the "let's turn /r/conspiracy into a Nazi hotbed and discredit them kek" is still on going on. There was good stuff down there though, divide and conquer between left vs right ideals is still taking place.

Be mindful of bullshit too, like people using slurs like "Nazi" to describe people who are not left wing. For instance, "Alt Right" describes everyone from Donald Trump to Gavin McInnes to Trump voters in their 20s. Leftists of course believe that Trump = Hitler and that half of Americans are "Nazis."

So watch out for left wing cranks trying to divide and conquer between left vs. right.

No such thing man, both sides will harm you equally. To totalitarian collectivist, they see no differences, they provide only the illusion of them.

a lot of Nazi/Alt-Right garbage in there

You just did that. You just used the smear word "Nazi" in order to demean virtually half the population of America. It's YOU that is trying to "divide and conquer between left vs. right."

Sort, but the alt-right is not half the population, not even close.

Trump isn't "literaly Hitler" either nor are the Alt Right "Naaazis." Only morons believe that.

I agree.

Nope he's just using that to refer to the actual nazi/alt right posts that show up on /new.

How are you reading past this?

if he get offended by something that simple then he must be covering something up

There are no "actual nazis" and "Alt Right" has nothing to do with "nazis."

That is a loon talking point from the same people who say "Trump is just like HITLER OMG!"

It's fucking stupid.

Lol there are actual nazis wtf are you talking about? Alt right also exists. The fucking alt right are the ones who called themselves alt right. Jesus Christ you are dense.

I've been referencing them as two separate groups. But you're so triggered that in your outrage you start screaming your standard punchlines.

Are you saying that all leftist believe that Trump=Hitler?

The vast majority of them certainly do.

They're also all Commies too right?

/s

Do you see what you're doing, you are being a hypocrite.

Seriously, when do we get to form organized street groups to fight each other along our political lines like pre-1933. (Leftists attacking non-violent people doesn't count)

when do we get to form organized street groups to fight each other along our political lines like pre-1933.

Good lord there you go again - you have Hitler Moon Bases on your brain. It isn't 1933 - nor 1917. Trump is not "literally Hitler" and his voters are not "Naaazis."

Get a grip.

We had actual commies in the street in full black being responded to by American flag defenders equipping themselves for defense against their attacks. (I'm on the Trump train btw - I'm not calling Trump supporters Nazis, you are.)

The reason I draw the comparison is because YOU mentioned something about Hitler and that triggers me because I love talking about Hitler and Nazis [You can read my history if you want to pull on that string]. This recent period of political conflict leading up the election of our glorious God Emperor DOES have comparisons to the political environment in Germany pre-1933 with just how polarized and seemingly violent is was getting (maybe I just saw a lot of media of Leftists beating on "NAZI TRUMP SUPPORTERS"), you're literally eating your own here - we think the same thoughts.

That doesn't mean I'm calling all Trump supporters Nazis, or all Shillary supporters Communists. That just means I like history.

I'm not calling Trump supporters "Nazis."

our glorious God Emperor

Trump is neither Hitler nor a "God Emperor" - all that stuff is stupid.

We're on the internet, I'm allowed to be as stupid as I want on here. If you want legitimate discourse on subjects, go stick your head up your ass :)

Holy shit, a trump supporter i can agree with. Thanks for being REASONABLE! We need more people on BOTH sides willing to work with each other, and not just discrediting every idea they have because "THEYRE COMMIES!" or "THEYRE NAZIS!"

What hard evidence do you have that the vast majority of leftwingers believe that Trump=Hitler?

Have you even read /r/politics lately?

Give an example.

But like... Actual evidence? You know.. not just how you perceive it

http://imgur.com/gallery/3mLydMU

That's horse crap. You can't take crap you see in posts and translate that into all the "leftists" in the US. It's the same statement as crap like all Trump supporters are racist just because some of them are.

Could I get a PM to the new sub?

Me too!

It's not a new sub. He's saying to sort the posts on this sub by "new". It's auto sorted by hot.

This should be stickied to the main page.

Rising, top of the hour too

Good posts like "White Genocide", or "Society is training our children to hate white people", or "Kushner is a ZIONEST JEW"?

Those good posts? Thank god for shills then.

So you are FOR White Genocide?

It's ok to call Trump a Russian agent but it's not ok to call Kushner and Israeli agent?

You are ok with society teaching children to hate white people?

I'm against actual white genocide. I'm also against neo nazis pushing bullshit agendas about "Non whites are outbreeding us and that's bad". Like non whites are some vermin horde from a shitty sci fi. And I'm against seven random pictures of student presentations being used as proof that society hates white people.

Your antipathy towards people you perceive as "white" comes through loud and clear. It's only people you perceive as "white" that you smear with labels like "neo nazi."

The hate is all coming from you, clearly. Stop the hate, dude.

It's only people you perceive as "white" that you smear with labels like "neo nazi."

Silly me. Obviously it's the jews and black people who are the neo nazis.

/s

I'm white BTW. You gonna screech about how I'm a globalist who hates himself? Just because I know it's racist as fuck to invent conspiracies about non whites outbreeding us. I repeat myself. Non whites are not some shitty hivemind of insects from a sci fi novel. It's super fucking racist to talk about them that way.

I wouldn't bother. This guy has practice.

You are clearly very confused, but shrieking "Naaazi" and "Trump is Hitler" just makes you look like a loon.

Non whites are not some shitty hivemind of insects from a sci fi novel. It's super fucking racist to talk about them that way.

Then why are you? No one else was. What is the matter with you?

Is "white supremacist" a slut?

Back in 1960s Alabama, "white supremacist" was not a slur, it was a description.

In 2017 America, "white supremacist" is just a slur.

In 2017 America, "white supremacist" is just a slur.

Even when it's used to describe someone who thinks white people are superior to black people...?

when it's used to describe someone who thinks white people are superior to non-white people...?

Who are these people? They only exist in your head. The reality is you use that slur to describe most white people and especially people who vote the way you don't want them to.

Youre right. He made up white supremacy and the KKK.

The "KKK?" You are kidding right?

Oh shit you're right, its made up by black people which is why they always wear hoods. Of course it was only made to make white people look bad /s

Are you high?

Nah, I'm just being you. You know, everything is strictly a conspiracy against white people right?

You are projecting your own racial hostility on to me. Stop the hate dude.

Who are these people? They only exist in your head.

White Nationalists only exist in my head...?

The reality is you use that slur to describe most white people and especially people who vote the way you don't want them to.

Not at all. I'm white and I'm not a white supremacist, nor is my Republican step-dad, my Democrat mother, nor any of my white friends.

You said "white supremacists" - now you are saying "white nationalist." Next you'll be saying "NAZI TRUMP=HITLER AmeriKKKa"

You sound unhinged.

You said "white supremacists" - now you are saying "white nationalist."

White Nationalism is the politically correct term for white supremacism.

You sound unhinged.

Oh ok.

I see you are just making shit up off the top of your head now.

I see you are just making shit up off the top of your head now.

Not an argument.

Please keep acting retarded so I can argue with you and get more karma.

I got all the karma I need.

Yeah its pretty easy when bots upvote you. I wish liberals used bots more. I'd probably get way more karma.

You are high aren't you?

Yeah it's called Sharia Blue!!!!!!!!!! And The Clinton News Network!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!! Remember to MAGA America The Great today komrad! /s

Heaven forbid, you can't be against ALL genocide regardless of race...you must be FOR at least ONE of them! /s

How about everyone stops killing everyone...any chance we could try that?

What is white genocide?

Literally, it's the genocide of white people.

What I am refering to is a neo nazi concept that the blacks and arabs are raping "our women" and outbreeding us. Like they're some vermin horde from a sci fi universe.

What do you mean by "our women"?

I dunno ask people like /u/jacks1000.

The eradication of white male dominance through American, German, etc governing through slow globalisation and the teaching of its tenets. Main tactics are subliminal replacement of "white" mainstream content with ethnic counterparts and the immediate labeling of anyone who speaks about it as racist.

If you don't want to be called racist, don't insist mainstream culture needs to be white and that any inclusion of non white culture is meant to kill off the "white race".

Super fucking simple.

You're not good at straw man arguments just so you know. Acknowledging the crusade against whites is not racist nor does it constitute an anti-ethnic agenda. It means you see the very real globalist agenda against whites. Simple.

Explain to me why it's bad for culture to be "not white". Go on. Tell me why it's bad for other races to be represented in culture, or to dominate it. Why is it good for cuture to be white, but not good for it to be black?

Muh IQ differences! /s

It's good for culture to be anything it wants. It's the people who want it to be "not white" who we are talking about.

Kind of ironic saying there is a crusade against whites when whites created the original Crusade. But I'm guessing white people slaughtering anyone a different shade of skin color in the name of their god is ok with you.

Your words I guess. I know I sure as hell never said them.

Who pushes the same things for years? How can anyone genuinely feel such a sense of persecution that they're in a perpetual state of defence & outrage? For years??

How can anyone genuinely feel such a sense of persecution that they're in a perpetual state of defence & outrage? For years??

Wait, this thread is about Christians now?

Lol, what reality do you live in? The white kids near me are doing just fine. It's true they don't run around screaming racial slurs and "faggot" like the good old days, but what can you do?

Have you ever actually met a white kid who hated himself because he was white? I'm surrounded by liberal guilt and I've still never seen one in the wild.

Proven false flags against /r/conspiracy to make everyone here seem racist.

We already know for a fact that several "trolls" have been caught trying to make this sub seem racist. How many out there get away with it every day?

You have two examples. Neither of which can explain why comments like this get upvoted or why that entire thread is full of people screeching about the evil jews.

To be clear, I am not saying that there is no antisemitism or racism in this subreddit. All I'm saying is that it's massively exaggerated, and that racists are on many other subreddits.

One of those examples was a single troll who posted tons of racist stuff all over Reddit over a long period of time. A single troll can do massive amounts of damage. It also seems to me that it would be pretty difficult to prove that a user is a troll, given that they are at least slightly careful. We are lucky to even know about these two. Therefore, there must be tons of other trolls who do this, likely upvoting themselves, and never getting caught.

False flag comments.

Stop pretending like it's impossible or even unlikely that ShareBlue shills and trolls routinely upvote brigade racist and other bullshit in attempts to discredit this sub.

do you think jews are pretty cool?

You don't really understand why zionism is a big deal to the conspiracy theory community?

Such bullshit, I remember back in the day when articles from the daily stormer, a stormfront publication, and if you ask who is stormfront, they're the Aryan Nation's web presence, anyway their articles appeared in this sub every day, especially the ones that covered the topics /u/tsiru12 cited. There isn't a false flag that stuff was legit, the sentiment echoed on the sub was legit, and mods were replaced for it.

I don't think the userbase is anyway near as bad as it was back then but I still see the same topics pop up rather frequently, they just normally never reach the front page anymore.

There isn't a false flag that stuff was legit

See the links I posted. This is proven.

As for whether or not there are some real racists here, of course there are because there are many of them in real life. The amount of them has been exaggerated through false flags, however, and this is a fact.

So are you saying that one idiot being caught doing this, which is pretty much the same as the idiot who burnt down the Synagogues to impress or get back at a girl or other examples, says that there are none on this sub? No attempts to recruit here or push agendas?

I will say though /r/uncensorednews is probably where most of them went to that and /r/The_Donald, both of which are fertile grounds for recruitment.

Nobody is saying there are zero racists here. I'm showing you that there are trolls out there who like to exaggerate how many racists are in this sub. There are entire subreddits dedicated to "proving" that this subreddit is racist. Don't you think the worst posts are those users who desperately want to make this place seem racist?

Lol what sub tries to prove this place is racist?

Don't you think the worst posts are those users who desperately want to make this place seem racist?

No the worst posts are the ones that are actually racist like any of that white genocide bullshit and anything along those lines, the blatantly anti-Semitic posts are a close second to those for obvious reasons.

The second worst posts are all of the concern troll posts that pop up every day from /r/The_Donald users or people sucked into it these posts are like "c'mon guys we can't let the shills divide us" "well who are the shills?" "anyone that doesn't think like OP does"

And then there are the ones that make a point to shit on the Trump campaign/Russian collusion conspiracy yet anything against Hillary is fine like "Hillary Clinton eats babies for longevity" yet you mention anything about Trump "nah man you're just accepting the mainstream media's narrative" sure okay dude.

Overall I haven't bitched about racism in this sub since a few years back, this place has come a long way since then, but they still pop in here or there from shitholes like /r/uncensorednews and /r/The_Donald and /r/TheRedPill but there is always going to be overlap, just like there is overlap with /r/politics and r/news and /r/worldnews. Regardless though I think racists are ignorant pieces of shit and I have no problem with them being called out on it when they actually pop their heads up, but I do have a problem with people generalizing people because of their subs or political leanings and using terms like "shill" or "racist" merely because they have a different viewpoint than the person tossing those labels at them.

/r/isrconspiracyracist/

/r/TopMindsOfReddit

/r/Conspiratard

There are a bunch more.

/r/conspiratard

I frequent there as well, there is so much conspiracy satire on that sub and over the top asshats like Alex Jones are a good laugh, but unless the video or post they're joking on is actually racist they usually don't just bring up this sub and say anything about this sub being racist. Just saying.

Other than that no this place is not full to the brim with racists, that's apparently Voat, same with Pedo's apparently as well, but there are a sizable percentage who obviously are and quite a few subs who cater to them, and I'm sure there is actually recruitment happening, as they would be foolish not to harness that negative energy if that is their goal.

The link proved one person was hoaxing, I don't believe that it disqualifies all other claims, that's like saying that one dick spray painting swastikas who was Jewish or whatever was caught and it was a hoax so all other swastika grafitti is a hoax or false flag, that's just ludicrous. Another example is how false rape allegations make it harder on actual rape victims because each fake subsequently makes it harder to prove a true traumatizing event.

Again, I'm not saying there aren't racists here. There obviously are some real ones here.

A bunch of the links to /r/conspiracy in some of these subs I mentioned were written by this troll. Do you realize how many posts and how many usernames he had? And that's just what we know about. Imagine if there were a couple more trolls like him (which there probably are). That would account for a pretty significant portion of the "racist" stuff on this sub.

It's a fluke that we even found out about this guy. Read up on the back story and everything. Why would there not be more trolls like that? It's called black propaganda--posting comments supposedly written by one group that were actually written by another group to discredit.

Haha downvotes for truth. Fuck you ShareBlue.

Wasn't too long ago there was a picture of Hitler linking to a documentary about Holocaust denial on the side bar.

How does that disprove what I'm saying? I never said there were zero racists in here. Racists are everywhere, so there will obviously be some here and in other subs.

You are talking about how people see /r/conspiracy and said there are several trolls that have been caught trying to make the sub seem racist correct?. I'm not trying to prove or disprove that at all. In fact my point was that regardless of people trying to make this sub seem racist the mods have done stuff that makes this sub seem racist. Hence my point about a picture of Hitler with a link about a Holocaust denial documentary.

Complaining about trolls is fine, and I'd say warranted, but when the mods do something like what I mentioned they aren't exactly helping the image of this sub.

I doubt the majority of the people here are glad that the mods did that. The mods don't represent this community. They are only the people who happen to have control over the moderation here, nothing more. If there was a better sub without these mods and a lot of traffic, we would go there instead, but this is what we have to deal with for now. Not that I'm saying you did this, but going around pretending that the actions of at least 1 mod discredits this sub and deems it to be "a racist subreddit" is retarded.

I doubt the majority of the people here are glad that the mods did that.

That was hard to tell at the time.

The mods don't represent this community.

Yes they do. Especially at the time that Hitler pic went up. There was crazy shit going on with the mods, including Flytape's infamous podcast. All of that reflected on the community and still does. Every sub's moderators represent their community.

They are only the people who happen to have control over the moderation here, nothing more.

And as such they can make up rules they want, they can sticky threads, notate threads as unverified, delete threads, remove comments, ban users, make their own comments, and do whatever they want essentially. They are a part of the community, not separate from it.

If there was a better sub without these mods and a lot of traffic, we would go there instead, but this is what we have to deal with for now.

Don't know where this came from in the conversation, but I don't disagree. I would love to see a conspiracy subreddit that has a large number of users and isn't boiling over with political partisanship.

Not that I'm saying you did this, but going around pretending that the actions of at least 1 mod discredits this sub and deems it to be "a racist subreddit" is retarded.

I'm not saying that one mod or one event determines if a sub is racist or not. So I'll have to restate my point. This sub has done things in the past, all on it's own and separate from its users or trolls, that makes it look racist. The Hitler pic and documentary was just an example.

I've seen a lot of people make this claim and it's such an obvious low blow to discredit everything else in here.

This is a very weird statement and has nothing to do with what I'm saying. I'm not trying to discredit anything, I'm just simply stating that I don't think it is just trolls that are to blame for this sub getting certain reputations from time to time.

how do you personally feel about the jews? seems the people that complain about false flags making the sub seem racist want to be racist but not dismissed as racist...

So I am not allowed to even discuss this without being called antisemitic? How did that bullshit comment even get upvoted?

Just a question

This place has a ton over over lap with T_D its pretty fucking racist here. Also antisemitic as fuck

Uhh, good old shill...

FACT: whites are being killed by non-whites at a higher rate than whites kill non-whites

FACT: whites are breeding significantly less compared to nonwhites

FACT: white males (the seed) are killing themselves at high rates

FACT: refugees consist of grown males

FACT: advertisements, shows, etc, portray the black male as being more efficient, attractive and generally desirable.

FACT: white females are significantly more likely to be raped by a black male than black females are to be raped by a white male

FACT: we live in a world of emotions and irrationality, evidence and reason (the male strengths) is being repudiated

FACT: whites are being killed by non-whites at a higher rate than whites kill non-whites

No they aren't.

FACT: whites are breeding significantly less compared to nonwhites

The fact that you think this is an issue speaks volumes about you. Why the fuck does it matter if white people aren't the majority in the world? Or even in America?

FACT: white males (the seed) are killing themselves at the HIGHEST rates

So whites are genociding themselves? And what the fuck does the seed even mean? Are you calling them breeders? You're still stuck on the population growth shit? Jesus dude. That's just creepy.

FACT: refugees consist of grown males

Random fact. Misleading as well.

FACT: advertisements, shows, etc, portray the black male as being more efficient, attractive and generally desirable.

No they don't. Where the hell is this pathetic persecution complex coming from?

FACT: white females are significantly more likely to be raped by a black male than black females are to be raped by a white male

Congratulations. It took you six tries to get to an actual issue. But it only applies to America, so really it doesn't count. Regardless, what's that have to do with white genocide?

FACT: we live in a world of emotions and irrationality, evidence and reason (the male strengths) is being repudiated

Oh going full sexist already huh? I guess that above point is more about "your women" being taken from you, right?

FACT: universities train females to reject white males, but oppressed blacks/Hispanics, etc, are okay.

And yup. There it is. The damn negroes are stealing your white women.

Freak.

At least you're obvious with your agenda. I agree with several things in his post. It's easy to play your bullshit "anything pro white is racist" card but the truth is that there is an overwhelming anti-white sentiment that is taught and reinforced in school and society.

The black on white women rape fact is not only in America. But why would your statement that it is only in America be worth anything anyways? Is America not important? I'd say not to someone promoting the agenda OP was speaking out against. So in that context your reply makes sense.

I get it. You think America doesn't matter and white people should shut the fuck up and anyone who says anything against that is a crazy racist idiot who should be disregarded.

Just fyi, I see you.

I'm white you fucktard. This is exactly why I'm calling y'all racist. OP is paranoid that non whites are stealing his women. And you're defending him and accusing me of being anti white, all because I'm against a racist piece of shit screeching about non whites stealing his women.

Being white doesn't mean you can't be anti white. In fact, self loathing appears to be a huge part of the requirements for your type.

I'm a conspirational Cynthia McKinney-loving brown person, tell me how you think I shouldn't have a single baby!

I'm a Slavic gypsy with a Cuban wife and my best friend in the world is korean. My best man at my wedding was Jamaican. Tell me again how you think you know anything?

So you don't want that best man to reproduce? You can reproduce yourself despite adding to the very problem you claim is happening? So many contradictions and logic flaws here.

Are you intentionally this dense? I have no problem at all with anyone reproducing. I have a problem with people who work towards the elimination of any race, in this case white.

And those people are?

Not a single valid rebuttal.

"No they aren't."

does not refute statistics

Hahaha this shit is so ridiculous.

FACT: you're a bigoted racist misogynistic asshole. You just said it.

FACT: you know nothing, Jon snow. Go learn some more shit about how the world works without your racist colored glasses. Go make friends. Maybe talking to other real people will help you in life.

Just what a globalist would say

/s

FACT: you need to get out more

universities train females to reject white males, but oppressed blacks/Hispanics, etc, are okay.

I love how these posts always end with the obvious "girls don't like me" motive. Maybe you should try being a likeable person instead of being a raging asshole. Another thought, have you ever thought about going gay? I mean apparently women aren't your thing.

No one is saying those are good posts, other than you and a fringe minority of Internet racists (who can be found on literally any forum or website), posts that are more often than not downvoted by most who come here.

The point OP was trying to make, is the frequency of quality content inexplicably downvoted and buried before most here even have a chance to see it, content from both mainstream and independent sources, ranging from proven to plausible conspiracies, or at minimum conspiracies the majority here would be interested in researching if not support.

<_>

If you for some reason ever visit politics echo chamber, sort comments by controversial

One of my favorite things to do. So much stupidity there.

No. So much truth there. Sorting by controversial lets users see the downvoting and censorship ShareBlue and it's shills perpetuate. It's disgusting. ShareBlue and it's members need to die.

If by truth you mean incredible mental gymnastics and pure stupidity then sure.

Amazing you'll call for fellow Americans to die for sharing a different opinion but god forbid you think anyone involved in treasonous activities to influence our Democracy spend a second in jail.

Amazing you'll call for fellow Americans to die for sharing a different opinion

Traitors sharing Paid propaganda

but god forbid you think anyone involved in treasonous activities to influence our Democracy spend a second in jail.

HRC, CNN, and those that colluded to corrupt and rig the primaries do need go go to jail.

But not Page, Flynn, Sessions, Manafort. Oh no, can't have people you support politically going to jail for actual treason.

No doubt, you're the mental gymnastics champion.

CLINTON NEWS PIZZA PEDO CRIMINAL SHILL NETWORK!!!1

Rule 4. Cut that shit out.

? Who did I attack or call a shill? I'm also talking about r/politics?

Announcing that a group people "need to die" imparts an unhinged je ne sais quoi to /r/conspiracy that we could do without.

... Saying traitors that spread propaganda, obfuscate the truth, actively contribute to the corruption in the US, and prevent the removal of said corruption 'need to die' is against the rules?

Saying evil and bad people need to die isn't something new or 'hurtful'.

Is saying pedophiles need to die bad? What about saying murders need to die? What about "those that protect pedophiles need to die"?

who is protecting pedos?

anyone who doesnt believe pizzagate?

I don't think trump needs to die just because he protects Epstein. There are plenty of other reasons...one rhymes with reason, in fact.

Absolutely. Need to backup those brave souls who fight the current ShareBlue takeover of r/politics.

You were at +10 30 min ago. We see ShareBlue has crawled out to this thread to prevent more redpill'ing

No it hit the front page. (That's why I'm here, downvoting and snarking ...)

Someone needs to create this thread every 2 weeks to keep us on point!

While I like the gist of this one, those 'daily reminder' threads are filler that push actual news off the front page, especially news that goes against the grain of the interests of certain states and parties

Why do all the Donald supporters have recent accounts? Whether it's OP, or any of the racists in this thread, they all have accounts at most a couple months old. Anyone complaining of "shills" on a new account is projecting, as far as I'm concerned.

It is almost every single one. The timing coincides perfectly with the spike in t_d subs. It is very odd and my favorite theory is it's Russia gearing up for the damning media reports of the last few months.

t_d is the most popular sub on reddit with 280 million page views a day.

280 million page views a day.

the bots are hard at work I see

they got less than 90k russian hits per day

VS almost double of that iirc on /r/redacted

it really amuses me that sickle and hammer style socialists are the ones crying about russian bots and shit

i'm a socialist but fuck authoritarianism and the modern left lol

Yeah, because state actors would never take the trivially easy step of obscuring the country of origin for their bot nets and paid trolls.

oh you mean like the CIA hackers with the ability to do whatever they want and make it look like WHOever they want? lmfao you're a joke

Yes, I do mean like that. Russia can also do this. Its not hard. Im not sure what is a joke about me for stating this clear and obvious fact.

the russia narrative has been bullshit from day one

The fact that you're sure without a full investigation is awfully suspicious.

suspicious of what? you think i'm russian or something? lol

No, suspicious that you're a partisan who has already made up their mind.

i'm not partisan

i don't identify with any party in current american politics

i just don't see any merit to the russia thing whatsoever. everything i've read so far leads me to believe it's a witch hunt being led by the dems. mccain called rand paul an agent of putin for fuck's sake lol it's mccarthyism in 2017

i don't identify with any party in current american politics

I'm sure you don't.

i don't. go look through my post history. i was for bernie. did not vote hillary. certainly not a trump supporter, but i also think it's ridiculous to call anyone you disagree with a nazi or a fascist. i literally have created a sub describing my socialist beliefs because they don't fit in with any part i currently know of.

this thing that liberals do where they assume the positions of anyone they disagree with is just so annoying and played out lol

you can't just decide people's beliefs for them

uh huh

literally ask me what i believe on any subject and you'll find it's consistent with my post history and my actual beliefs

All the hardest trump supporters on this sub (im intentionally not calling them shills, that word is poison) claim to not be trump supporters. Its better for them. Makes them more credible.

"i dont even like donald trump, but even I can see that he is the smartest man who ever lived"

Also claiming to be a bernie supporter furthers the divide on the left, pitting sanders supporters against mainstream dems, allowing someone as unpopular as trump to get even more traction.

You could be legit. but if I had a pro trump agenda Id use the same script you just used.

look at my history

also i certainly don't think he's the smartest person who ever lived

youd be banned from t_d for that kind of talk

have been since the primaries thanks

Is McCain a dem? Is Comey? Are the Senate and House who are both running investigations dem controlled?

not sure what comey is. obviously mccain isn't. but the ENTIRE liberal media is pushing this narrative and dem senators have basically called for the entire admin to step down based on tenuous at best connections

am i in /r/conspiracy or /r/politics lmfao

am i in /r/conspiracy or /r/politics lmfao

You are expecting conspiracies to be evaluated purely along partisan lines here?

no i'm expecting this sub to not function exactly like the hive mind in /r/politics

Got your head up your ass, I see.

if that's what you want to call it, sure. no ones getting impeached though, i promise you that.

People said the same about Bill Clinton.

Ever heard of a proxy?

you ever heard you're a dumbass

Projection

you could have just conceded that hiding your point of origin is easily available to anyone who wants to.

obviously everyone knows what a proxy is

to just accuse 280m views of being russian bots is fucking retarded lol

280m views is precisely why it's suspicious.

Removed. Rule 4.

That's because everyone is laughing on what they post there.

Knowns bots rule that sub. Something something social media teams by the Kremlin.

Politics before country.

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People who believe that TD users are Russian bots are fucking retarded.

But we know that to be true.

No, you don't "know" jack shit. There's zero evidence of that.

We've seen the reddit logs, only a small percentage of TD users are Russian

So let me get this straight. You do not think there are any Russian bots working to further the Russian agenda. None?

Prove it.

I asked a question...

I don't think there's any credible evidence of Russian bots in TD.

I think it's a stupid fucking fantasy invented by corrupt democrats to divert attention from their crimes which are about to be exposed.

I look at TD every day, and I've never seen a post in any awkward broken english. Russians in there would be obvious.

If you want to say there are bots in there, then fucking prove it.

So let me get this straight. You do not think there are any Russian bots working to further the Russian agenda. None?

Once again I invite you to enlighten me to the details of this bot epidemic you believe in.

I asked you a question that you refuse to answer...

You do not think Russia is using bots? You do not think Russia is using them to influence social media? At all, to any degree? That's your opinion?

I'm sure every major government, corporate entity, whoever else is rich enough is using some form of media manipulation.

But this hysteria about "russian bots" in this sub upvoting positive posts about Trump is stupid. TD is one of the top 5 most popular subs on this site.

So where's your evidence? Are you going to post something credible or are you too busy fellating David Brock?

So you concede Russia utilizes bots on social media. But it's insane to you to think they're using bots on one of the most widely used social media websites in the world? Because "I've never seen broken English posts that looks like it from Russia and I'm on t_d everyday!"

So where's your evidence? Are you going to post something credible or are you too busy fellating David Brock?

When he testified before the Senate Intelligence Committee last week, former FBI agent Clint Watts described how Russians used armies of Twitter bots to spread fake news using accounts that seem to be Midwestern swing-voter Republicans.

No man, don't you see? that's not how it works. He knows everything because it's so obvious to him, and if you disagree you are a retard... It's called being a 12 year old on the internet.

This article proves nothing and says nothing. Former FBI agent with no current intel giving his opinion on the matter.

Still doesn't prove that TD is bots.

How about a Russian internet propaganda employee suing? WARNING! WILL TRIGGER T_D SNOWFLAKES

But there's no way they're on Reddit, right?

omg This is the end of Trump!

Nah actually once again you post a link to something completely insubstantial.

There's more proof of pizza gate than any of the weak sauce you keep posting.

She literally sued in Russian court and won.

Sometimes reality isn't what you want it to be. But just because you deny it doesn't mean it's not true. Sorry, that's life.

Uh this article did not say anyone won. It says she didn't show up to court and trial was postponed.

Jesus. That was 2015. It's 2017. That means things have since progressed through the courts. She won. In Russian court.

Yes, the entire Russian internet propaganda machine was exposed in Russian court. Don't listen to the FBI, CIA, Congress, British, French, or any other NATO ally. Listen to the Russians.

Now what? The Russians are lying too? Literally everyone except t_d is lying.

But noooooooo way they would ever do any of this on Reddit. Nope, Reddit is off limits!!;;!!:;;;!!!!!!!!;

Wake up kid.

So why did you link to this article instead of one about the supposed "win"? I'm not seeing anything else about this court case. And it still doesn't prove that TD is Russian bots.

Can you prove definitively that The_Donald is being botted? Or is it all more of this weak sauce beating around the bush?

A Russian court has ordered a secretive pro-Putin “propaganda factory” to pay symbolic damages to an employee who sued them in a bid to expose the workings of the Kremlin’s online trolls.

“I am very happy with this victory. I achieved my aim, which was to bring the internet trolls out of the shade,” said Savchuk, 34.

I never beated around the bush. I guess I didn't realize this isn't common sense. I thought it was common knowledge. I forgot people live in a hive mind cult where none of this is allowed.

And again, we know there are thousands and thousands of Russian propaganda teams working the internet, which even you can now admit. Which websites weren't specified.

I now realize you have absolutely no common sense but Reddit and the most pro Russia sub is completely off limits to the Russian internet propaganda teams, right? Keep putting politics before your country. Russia before America.

Stick to video games kid, let the adults handle politics.

Jesus you're so far up your own asshole no wonder you live in a fairy tale.

The fairy tell you kept saying doesn't exist but I then provided proof that it does?

How about the fairy tale you live in? Are you on the Russian internet propaganda team? The only questions you should be asking now is if you yourself fell victim to this Russian propaganda and if you still are. It appears so.

Politics before country. Russia before America. Sad.

What proof? So PR propaganda exists in Russia. So what?

Your belief is that there is no way that the Donald subreddit can be this active. It has to be bots. So you're assuming that just because the Russians do exactly as Americans do with PR and all the Bullshit that therefore all Trump supporters must be Russian trolls.

That is a gravely unfounded assumption.

all the Bullshit that therefore all Trump supporters must be Russian trolls.

That is a gravely unfounded assumption.

Yes it is. Can't believe I'm agreeing with an America hating Trump supporter. But I never said that all Trump supporters are Russian trolls.

Let's go back to my comment....

So let me get this straight. You do not think there are any Russian bots working to further the Russian agenda. None?

Again. We know this to be true. And now you do too. You're welcome.

Country before politics. America before Russia. You should try that version some time.

Well if you're assuming that being pro Trump is automatically pro Putin then you're fucking retarded.

Removed. Rule 4.

He asked for proof of a statement. Not a question. Quit playing shitty politics.

Lol I provided it. But I was getting to a point. The point being not even the dumbest t_d subscribers think Russia doesn't use any bots. Which he also agreed with. Yet it's unfathomable that there are any bots on Reddit.

Injecting a little common sense can go a long way.

You're a liar. You provided info that pertains to twitter. You stated that Russian Bots are in T_D. Then rationalize it by saying, well they wete on Twitter so of course they are on T_D. He asked for PROOF you cant supply it. Dont make the statement, its shitty political pushing and is the heart of what we hate about you people. Proof or stfu.

Yes my point was Russia is using bots. I said:

You do not think Russia is using bots? You do not think Russia is using them to influence social media? At all, to any degree? That's your opinion?

I then provided a source saying Russia is using tons of bots.

It's just common sense. Russia is using bots on Twitter. But for some reason they stop at Twitter? That's what you think? They would use bots only on Twitter and no other social media platform?

Man you say one bad thing about Russia and you Russia lovers lose your mind. Sad. Americans more loyal to Russia than America. Sad.

So jumping to conclusions is common sense. Thats the dumbest shit ive ever heard. Japanese used to rape chinese woman so naturally the rape north Korean woman, just common sense. No fither proof needed, case closed.

So it's an absurd to accept that Russia is using a significant number of bots to push propaganda on Twitter and other social media websites and that is likely to include Reddit as well?

That's just a bridge Russia can't or won't cross? That's your opinion?

Opinion? I thought we were talking about REAL shit! How the fuck does that have anything to do with opinions? Either its true or its not, burden of proof is on the accuser. I assume you have none or you could havf just ended the conversation moron.

So you refuse to answer the question?

What fucking question? Proof is not a question. Provide proof of the ahit you spew.

Hahahahahhahahah, I actually triggered you so bad you created a post about it. HahahHahhahahahha. Amazing.

I realize you're from t_d so I'll talk slower.

We know Russia has been highly involved in internet propaganda for years. They have massive teams spreading fake news, using fake accounts, and utilizing bots.

Still with me? If needed I can use Google translate to translate this into Russian.

Soooooooo, they've devoted so much energy into influencing people on the internet but there's no way there's any of this going on on Reddit, right?

That's your position? Even for a t_d user that's flat out retarded. Again, it's just common sense.

Weird how someone that makes posts asserting anti Trump fake accounts are flooding Reddit, without any proof, can't imagine Russia is also using Reddit to spread their propaganda.

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So the proof is what? You talk alot but dont say shit. A link to the proof would suffice.

SNOWFLAKE TRIGGER WARNING Sorry man, your little circle jerk on t_d is propaganda...

Let me know if I need to translate this into Russian.

Sure, translate to russian Komrad

Russian are da greetest

But all that says is that they were pro Putin? What does that have to do with the Donald?

There are thousands of Russians paid to influence people on social media. But for some reason they don't use Reddit?

Stick to video games kid, let the adults handle politics.

I don't think many people here doubt that the Russian government uses bots on social media, including Reddit. I'd expect every national government to employ bots on social media, provided they possess the necessary knowledge and resources.

What raises people's eyebrows is how a foreign government's efforts to influence American public opinion is being widely promoted as some sort of an emerging and unprecedented threat, given the freedoms of speech and of the press that have existed since the ratification of the Bill of Rights. Propaganda is nothing new, and we don't mind its existence as long as other arguments and viewpoints are freely accessible. This is why I really don't mind the Marxist propaganda that for years has been creeping more and more into the content of left-leaning broadcasts and publications.

So it's not that more Americans are increasingly becoming pro-Russia and anti-American. Rather, many Americans see the utter disregard for basic constitutional freedoms coming from the people fear-mongering over Russian influence, and they see that domestic agenda as the more immediate threat to America.

What Constitutional abuses are coming from people fear mongering over Russian influence? I'm very concerned about Russia, so much so I wrote my Congressman. I also swore an oath to the Constitution. You won't ever find me promoting violations of the Constitution.

It is an emerging and unprecedented threat. The modern internet hasn't been around very long. Social media is brand new to most people. Pretty sure the 60 & 70 yr olds don't know the difference between fake news articles and real ones.

We literally have a president attacking the free press, one of the most crucial protections in the Bill of Rights, and you're saying people fear mongering over Russian influence over Russian influence are disregarding basic Constitutional freedoms? What the fucking fuck?

Pretty sure the 60 & 70 yr olds don't know the difference between fake news articles and real ones.

It's precisely this paternalistic perspective that people view as the more immediate threat to the American way of life. We have to label or maybe even restrict access to certain articles because these 60 and 70 year olds are too dumb to know what's real or fake.

Our governing agenda is objectively in the vast majority of country's best interests. Why don't these racist inbred idiots realize that they are voting against their interests?!

The 2nd Amendment is way too broad as currently interpreted. People who feel the need to arm themselves for protection are just being irrational.

We literally have a president attacking the free press

The president isn't allowed to criticize news organizations who constantly cover him in a negative light? Are they in danger of being shut down? Do presidents normally keep quiet and refrain from any retaliation in the face of constant criticism? I'll be the first to cry foul if Trump does indeed try to limit the voice of news media critics, but I don't see that happening.

We have to label or maybe even restrict access to certain articles because these 60 and 70 year olds are too dumb to know what's real or fake.

This is the exact stance of team Trump. He is the one who started blasting "fake news".

You know, when Trump tweeted "It is not "freedom of the press" when newspapers and others are allowed to say and write whatever they want even if it is completely false!"

At this point, everyone is critical of Trump. His presidency has been a complete joke.

The 5th Amendment is way too broad as currently interpreted. People should not be allowed to get abortions, regardless of due process.

I'll be the first to cry foul if Trump does indeed try to limit the voice of news media critics, but I don't see that happening.

Yeah man, calling the media the enemy of the American people..... Trump is absolutely not attacking free press. Not at all.

Isn't it amazing how you can be so hypocritical trying to deliver points attacking America but the people you support are doing the exact same thing you're criticizing? The cognitive dissonance is astounding.

He is the one who started blasting "fake news".

False. It began as a way to describe published stories that were completely false (which are not new), and then legacy news organizations decided to run with the term, seeing it as an opportunity to attack the credibility of smaller independent platforms. It was only after this that Trump and others turned the tables on legacy news organizations and used it to attack their own biased reporting.

You know, when Trump tweeted "It is not "freedom of the press" when newspapers and others are allowed to say and write whatever they want even if it is completely false!"

He's not totally wrong. If a news outlet knowingly publishes a completely false story about him, or publishes a false story while exercising "a reckless disregard for the truth," a court could find enough evidence of actual malice and hold them at fault.

The 5th Amendment is way too broad as currently interpreted. People should not be allowed to get abortions, regardless of due process.

I agree with Roe v. Wade, but the government is not explicitly prohibited from restricting access to abortions in the Bill of Rights or anywhere else in the constitution.

Yeah man, calling the media the enemy of the American people..... Trump is absolutely not attacking free press. Not at all.

Again, this does nothing to stop journalists from attacking him. Public trust in the mainstream press was in decline long before Trump called them fake news. Maybe, like their own criticism of Trump, Trump's criticism isn't entirely unwarranted?

Isn't it amazing how you can be so hypocritical trying to deliver points attacking America but the people you support are doing the exact same thing you're criticizing? The cognitive dissonance is astounding.

I was a strongly critical of the Bush administration (whose reputation you may have noticed is enjoying some rehabilitation in the mainstream press lately) before I was strongly critical of Democrats, for the same reasons: blatant disregard for the constitution. I'm well aware that this isn't a situation of one side being staunch defenders of the constitution and the other being habitual violators. It's a continuous analysis, and right now I view the Democrats and Neoconservatives opposing Trump as a bigger threat in comparison to Trump. They are the bigger threat to basic freedoms due to their paternalistic presumption of knowing voters' interests better than the voters themselves.

False.

You're missing the point. I didn't mean he literally invented it, I have no idea how it originated. But it took off with him. I did look it and confirmed it took off with Trump. But spin it however you want

Which directly contradicts "It's precisely this paternalistic perspective that people view as the more immediate threat to the American way of life. We have to label or maybe even restrict access to certain articles because these 60 and 70 year olds are too dumb to know what's real or fake."

He's not totally wrong. If a news outlet knowingly publishes a completely false story about him, or publishes a false story while exercising "a reckless disregard for the truth,"

Trump is attacking the media for everything. If they report the criminal investigations into him he attacks them. If they report his blatant lies, he attacks them.

But somehow you're justifying exactly what you just said was a big deal. When Trump does it's okay.

I agree with Roe v. Wade, but the government is not explicitly prohibited from restricting access to abortions in the Bill of Rights or anywhere else in the constitution.

And they're only explicitly prohibited from infringing on our right to bear arms in "a well regulated militia" but that's not how the Constitution works is it? There's explicit and implicit government powers and limits. Nice try though.

And it's actually Planned Parenthood v. Casey that allows abortion.

Again, this does nothing to stop journalists from attacking him.

blatant disregard for the constitution. I'm well aware that this isn't a situation of one side being staunch defenders of the constitution and the other being habitual violators. It's a continuous analysis, and right now I view the Democrats and Neoconservatives opposing Trump as a bigger threat in comparison to Trump. They are the bigger threat to basic freedoms due to their paternalistic presumption of knowing voters' interests better than the voters themselves.

You mean like Trump's blatant disregard for the Emoluments clause? Ohhhhhhh, not so important now, huh?

You previously said "utter disregard for basic Constitutional freedoms" but completely ignore Trump's rampant and blatant attacks on them. He's doing nothing different than past presidents to curb them while flaming hatred for he press like nothing we've ever seen before. You're simultaneously blasting the establishment for "utter disregard for basic Constitutional freedoms" but justifying Trump's "utter disregard for basic Constitutional freedoms".

Again, one of the clearest displays of cognitive dissonance I've seen in a long time. It's hypocrisy, plain and simple.

And they're only explicitly prohibited from infringing on our right to bear arms in "a well regulated militia" but that's not how the Constitution works is it? There's explicit and implicit government powers and limits. Nice try though.

Not according to the majority opinion in Heller.

And it's actually Planned Parenthood v. Casey that allows abortion.

This statement isn't even a matter of interpretation. It's factually incorrect. Casey (1992) elaborated on the framework for analyzing laws that regulate abortion practices, but abortion was clearly allowed before 1992. Roe v. Wade (1973) established that outright prohibition of abortion violated the substantive due process right to privacy.

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Not according to the majority opinion in Heller.

I'm quite aware, that was my entire point.

This statement isn't even a matter of interpretation. It's factually incorrect. Casey (1992) elaborated on the framework for analyzing laws that regulate abortion practices, but abortion was clearly allowed before 1992. Roe v. Wade (1973) established that outright prohibition of abortion violated the substantive due process right to privacy.

Yes, abortion is allowed as specified in Casey. That's literally what I said.

Lol you changed the subject real quick when you realized your defense of Trump was incredibly hypocritical. This isn't t_d bud, you aren't arguing with high schoolers and Russians.

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You "corrected" me by claiming that Casey is the case that allows abortion rather than Roe v. Wade. For your sake I'm going to doubt you are being sincere.

Furthermore, your belief that Casey "allows abortion" shows that you don't actually know what the constitution and the Supreme Court are addressing. They are addressing whether or not certain actions or restrictions implemented by the government are within the scope of government authority. They do not determine what private persons are allowed to do. There is no case that allows abortion. The cases dealing with abortion address whether certain government restrictions on abortion are allowed under the constitution.

We can keep going, but I'd recommend against it. Mixing condescension with demonstrated ignorance tends to do a number on your credibility.

There is no case that allows abortion.

Lol, yes each of these cases allowed abortion to occur. Before you could not get an abortion. After you could. Are you really this dense?

The cases dealing with abortion address whether certain government restrictions on abortion are allowed under the constitution.

Yes, and current standards are determined by Casey. Like a said.

We can keep going, but I'd recommend against it. Mixing condescension with demonstrated ignorance tends to do a number on your credibility.

Or you know, you could stop deflecting and get back to your cognitive dissonance. You were a hypocrite then you were wrong and wrong again and again. But you're still a hypocrite when it's politically convenient.

Before you could not get an abortion. After you could. Are you really this dense?

[Yes, I'm the one who is dense:]

"Before the U.S. Supreme Court decision Roe v. Wade legalized abortion nationwide in 1973, it was already legal in several states, but the decision imposed a uniform framework for state legislation on the subject."

You are tenacious though, I'll give you that.

I see some democrats committing crimes. The most frequent and heinous offenders, however, tend to have an R next to their name.

I see some democrats committing crimes. The most frequent and heinous offenders, however, tend to have an R next to their name.

To be honest, there really is zero evidence of Russian bots... Unles you have something to prove otherwise. I'm not a fan of the T_D. But I see this claim all over the place but no one backs it up.

The FBI would disagree. We know Russia is actively influencing elections around the world. We know they have social media teams. We know they spread fake news and push a pro Russian agenda online.

To think they don't try to influence Reddit is just naive.

Again, without evidence or source you are just like T_D and all their claims with no source. What is worth if we can't source/prove anything.

When he testified before the Senate Intelligence Committee last week, former FBI agent Clint Watts described how Russians used armies of Twitter bots to spread fake news using accounts that seem to be Midwestern swing-voter Republicans.

Pretty sure t_d doesn't use the FBI and NPR when making claims.

And we actually have proof that the US partakes in these exact type of actions with recent leaks! So even if the Russian claims are true, why is it ok the US does it?

Because I'm American and I want American interests furthered around the world. I want our allies to be protected from their adversaries. I want stability and democracy in the world. I want America's agenda above all others.

I don't want Russia's agenda infiltrating my country.

We've seen a period of great wealth and stability around the world since Russia flamed out and America became the sole superpower. I want that to continue.

I can't imagine how any country loving American wouldn't want that.

Still no source or proof provided.

We've seen a period of great wealth and stability around the world since Russia flamed out and America became the sole superpower. I want that to continue.

While this may be true for those in privileged life styles. The average college graduate debt amount has never been higher. While the average college graduate employment rate is declining. All the while health insurance cost is on the rise, no matter which political party is the president. So while in the 50's and 60's and arguably the 70's you could afford a house mortgage, a car loan and a family of 4 on the average national salary. That no longer can be said for the same for our current date.

No one can possibly blame Russia for that. So if your reasons for blaming Russian is truly based on keeping the US "great and wealthy", maybe start pointing blame some where else, cause Russia isn't causing the next crash equivalent to the housing crash of 2008, which will be student loans.

Sorry for the run-on sentences.

Source was FBI agent as reported by NPR.

Wealth and stability across the world. Not just the U.S. And we can thank the U.S. for that. Worldwide conflict is down, combat related deaths are dramatically lower.

Just think about what you're​ complaining about. Education and healthcare. Not food, safety, wars. I'd say that's fine with me.

But you're deflecting. Your original rebuttal was "well the U.S. does it". Yes, we do. And that's great. Doesn't mean it's acceptable when a foreign adversarial country does it to us. Especially one like Russia.

I don't want Russia's agenda infiltrating my country.

What would be your solution?

The same policies we've had for decades. Strong NATO, bipartisan approach to Russia. It's not rocket science.

You seemed to suggest that Russia's agenda was becoming more negotiable as far as Americans are concerned, despite the same policies that we've had for decades, and that this unprecedented infiltration of Russian talking points had to be countered in some novel fashion.

13000 upvotes. 13 comments, 3 by OP. seems to be SOP over there, even on the lowest effort posts

I believe in this theory, esp since they get VERY active whenever news that is bad for trump or russia or collusion comes out. Especially with BS filler posts that push anything off the front page that has to do with the above topics.

I do too. I was skeptical for awhile, although kept an eye on the Russian connections since they were reported last summer. But if you've been following this whole thing, there's so many connections. So many things align perfectly.

If it's all nothing I'll be beyond stunned.

A vast majority of Trump/Russia defenders I engage with on Reddit are eerily similar. Same account age, same history, similar comments, always reach a point they can't refute and ignore.

I'm assuming it's because there are groups of users out there who target and harass specific users, following them around Reddit, sending them PM's, etc. If they know what your account is, they can easily find where you are posting and either downvote your stuff, post replies to discredit you, or both.

If people make an extra account or two, it takes a while for those harassing users to find you. That's why I made this account and a couple others, and I'm going to do it again when they target me again. I like to "spread out" my stuff on Reddit so that I don't appear to be a "power user" who is a real pain in their ass. They think I'm just some random dude who posts on Reddit once a week, and therefore I don't seem to be a problem for them.

You guys both sound like trolls though just gaslighting us all like we're stupid worrying about shills. You know who creates multiple reddit accounts? TROLLS especially the douchey alt-right type. I remember a time on this website before 2013 when trolls didn't have an agenda and were just doing it for the lols, but the more corporate this site has become the more its attracted the wrong type of toxic people on here. If you don't like challenging viewpoints go visit /pol over at the hacker 4chan. Leave us true conspiracy theorists the fuck alone.

Maybe but I definitely know that your a troll.

My parents told me not to feed the trolls so I say good day to you sir!

You probably pee sitting down.

Really? Why the fuck do you call me a trump supporter? I fucking hate ignorant people like you.

https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/5ufclb/am_i_the_only_one_that_thinks_subs_like_rpics_are/

It is pretty clear who you support.

You already admit you have multiple accounts to hide your intentions, do you think people are so stupid to not see right through you?

So you just shill for Russia, or what?

Sounds like /r/trumpregret to me.

Why the fuck would anyone even deny being a trump supporter

Because even before the first 100 days are over, he has shown himself to be the most ignorant, incompetent, narcissistic, person to ever hold that office.

Why are you defending him?

No, I'm not going to shut up.

I'll tell you why you are defending him, it's because you support him.

Go search for something meaningful to do, seriously.

Says the guy who spends countless hours researching pizzagate. It's funny how you hate the very thing you are, but seem incapable of realizing it.

Just like this post. You are complaining about shills "keeping the good posts" from the front page, not realizing you are a shilling yourself.

Aww, relying on insults now that I've completely torn you apart? That's cute.

Oh, please enlighten me then, what is this forum all about, and what great understanding do you have that I'm lacking?

Removed. Rule 4.

Why hasn't he locked Hillary up? He got his supporters foaming with rage about how she is a traitor to the United States... and now he's letting her walk free...

What gives?

of course he wasnt what he said he was. He sold you the lie. A lot of people saw it. Most of the country in fact. But you were too high energy, weren't tired of winning. You thought the manhattan billionaire gave a shit about the common man because he said he did. itd be hilarious if it wasnt so fucking tragic

Those don't make it clear that he supports Trump. That last link is something I have noticed on my own. I distrust both R/D as a good tin-foil hat model would.

One of the most common trends I've noticed in this sub over the past year is that most of the 'shill' accusations are coming from new accounts.

Not just this community. cough Foundations of Geopolitics cough

Well, the problem is that non-discord sowers eat the shill stuff up. It's an incredibly cliché phenomenon where certain people will latch onto any theory--no matter how ridiculous--that discredits the proponents of opinions they disagree with. It's doubly hilarious in a sub that purports to be filled with "critical thinkers." And it's triply hilarious because the shill accusers constantly warn that we should be wary of shills and their "forum sliding" techniques. Which, of course, is exactly what a shill would want to happen.

Even if there were an army of "Shareblue" shills on this sub, the best response to them--and the only way to truly avoid forumsliding--would be to argue with them using facts and substance. If they make a point, counter it. If they start just engaging in ad hominens, ignore them as you would anyone else who did that.

You can say the same for Share Blue and Correct the Records accounts though.

Yes. They also think that being the first to accuse the other of 'shill like behavior' automatically gives them a shield against being called out.

It's embarassing really. Fuck ShareBlue and anyone associated. All need to die.

They also think that being the first to accuse the other of 'shill like behavior' automatically gives them a shield against being called out.

Are you talking about the Trump shills or Share Blue here, or both?

Fuck ShareBlue and anyone associated needs to die.

Is this an old enough account for you, shill?

Donald supporter here; 6 gorillion years

;) /s

They make new accounts to boost the_donald subscriber numbers and to use multiple accounts for "high energy" upvotes.

They were all banned from various subs for going trump-tard on people.

I personally burn mine around 50k karma. I just abandon them and pick right up with a new one.

A lot of reasons. 1stly is many idiots totally disregard anything you daily based on whether or not you've posted there. 2nd is a lot of 4channers make new or alternate accounts. 3rd you get banned from subs for either posting once ever or commenting.

Would have been nice to see this awhile ago...

Man, the racist bullshit in this topic is insane.

1 comment: "We're all racists and hateful, fuck this community!"

Getting real tired of this astroturfing shit

we've got conspiracies in our conspiracies. i love it!

Considering that this post itself is on "hot", I think you may be a shill. Can't trust you

Trust no one.

Trust, but verify.

Not even yourself

Especially not yourself! Have you even met you? Your a proven liar.

In case anyone wanted to read actual information about shills, here ya go.

You could just link to T_D

More like all of Politics, world news, the newest trump hate sub and BPT.

it's the new safeword, everytime someone disagrees with you just shout "SHILL" and you won't ever have to reconsider your views

I should have known that such a sub existed.

I've been here long enough to know that Reddit has pretty much everything one might think of and lots of shit that most wouldn't imagine.

This needs to be on the sidebar. I'm not just saying that should be the case. The mods literally need to add a disclaimer on the sidebar to do this. Doing so will likely help counteract the brigading and conspicuous influx of users with an agenda who attempt to bury posts containing certain keywords for example, which happens here on a regular if not daily basis unfortunately.

OP is a shill.

Yes. Combat ShareBlue/CTR routine vote brigades to bring news to light.

Astroturfers who defend pedophiles deserve death. Keep at it ShareBlue. You time is nearing.

Party time? It was in Illinois... dems taking shit back for the good of the people. (All people, even those dastardly darkies...)

What a meta conspiracy conspiracy.

Reads title

Clicks 'New'

"The earth is flat!"

Clicks 'Hot'

Oh no, sometimes there is garbage, better put the blinders back on and read you peer-approved garbage

Feel better?

Condescend much?

I feel like you may be projecting a bit.

Wait, this sub understands the earth is flat, right?

Nope.

It's a psyop.

"Do you want to become a spy for MI5?"

aaaand that's why I don't browse new

Not everyone that disagrees with you is a shill.

Not everyone calling someone a shill simply disagrees with them.

Good thing I never said that, then.

It was certainly implied.

Just because you inferred it doesn't mean I implied it.

Yeah, it's pretty clear that "Not everyone who disagrees with you is a shill" implies that you think OP is calling people shills only because he disagrees with them. Do you even understand what you say, or do you just spew out words?

There's this weird little thing called "some"

Play nice or no updoots

There's other this weird little thing called "context"

And "reading comprehension"

So you just spew out words, then? Got it. Peace.

Check into that whole reading comprehension thing lol

Jesus christ.

What about him?

This whole "pretending to be obvious so I can maintain the illusion of high ground despite the obvious fact I lost the argument" tactic of yours really seems to be working out

Just browsing /all (aka "hot") lands you in an echo chamber of the lowest common denominator. Cute pics and factoids.

A meta conspiracy

Wtf is a shill everybody uses the word but I have to see a cogent definition

I think the most generalized definition is someone who pushes a narrative that they may not actually believe in for money.

Most realistic definition is, "someone who disagrees with me on the internet."

No those are nazis.

That's a fact.

IE. Russians pretending to be patriotic Americans.

Look into the Russian "Internet Research Agency" They literally pay people to sit at a computer all day and talk shit about hillary, support pizzagate, and shape western opinion and by extension ALL opinion.

Look up ShareBlue and media matters as well. They are known to do the same thing

On ShareBlue: https://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/23/us/politics/hillary-clinton-media-david-brock.html

Read: https://cryptome.org/2012/07/gent-forum-spies.htm

A shill, also called a plant or a stooge, is a person who publicly helps or gives credibility to a person or organization without disclosing that they have a close relationship with the person or organization. Shills can carry out their operations in the areas of media, journalism, marketing, confidence games, or other business areas. A shill may also act to discredit opponents or critics of the person or organization in which they have a vested interest through character assassination or other means.

Anyone who disagrees with donald trump is not a real human being with an opinion according to this sub and T_D

I'm a bot, bleep, bloop. Someone has linked to this thread from another place on reddit:

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here's a good post /r/polandballparas

This sub has been taken over by Russian shills and pizzagate morons.

Who you talkin to bro?

The real content is in controversial.

Its pretty hard to filter through the "new" garbage on any sub. I'd rather filter through the "hot"garbage.

Thank you I was beginning to notice that

Cuckservatives are patrolling now? Thought this sub was meant for everyone. Guess not. It turned out to be another safe place for cuckservatives now.

We should start a thread of best new post. Agree, good stuff gets buried.

In the spirit of this thread, I posted about my thoughts on the true power structure just a minute ago 😉

Shill Killa

https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/62l0j6/is_there_a_reason_the_rconspiracy_twitter_account/

How many more anti donald trump posts do we need? I supported donald trump in the election that doesnt mean I agree with everything he does but I'm not a shill. I feel like there are more anti trump propaganda on here these days. When the election was going on it was dominated by anti hillary propaganda. I feel like you guys are a little paranoid and are anti(insert whoever is in power at the time). I understand that power corrupts but you guys look for conspiracies in everything.

What would be the point of shilling for donald? He has already won and your approval no longer matters. You guys are just paranoid.

This sub is being brigaded, and not by T_D. Notice how it's very common in many subs to claim that T_D is brigading all the while pretty much every upvoted post is actually Anti-Trump stuff. i.e WorldNews/News/Politics, etc. It's a deflection tactic.

So we should all just bend over and hail the great leader? His team registering as literal russian agents after being found out is anti-trump propaganda? The secret back channel that trump had blackwater set up was propaganda?

Lets not forget the russian responsible for the Steele dosier was fucking murdered after it came out.

you guys look for conspiracies in everything.

Do you not know what sub you're in?

If this were true, wouldn't this post have been downvoted into oblivion by the shills?

Brah, even Mercer doesn't pay enough for me to spend time in /new.

It's how they ruined r/ politics and started branching out into allaw the subs. I'm just hoping this isn't easy to do and theres still someplace shill free on the interwebs.

Honestly after being a member for a good amount of time , I do this on all subs . It's good for the community

Shills? That sounds stupid, stop it.

What we have here are people pushing political agendas and see this place as an easy target.

Downvote them, tag them, call them out..

Things are like this because you, as a user, are failing to keep your sub clean.

Shut up sock puppet

Just have this a shot she authy I did find a couple good posts, new is mostly shit.

ok I'll set lasers to new

Anyone who claims they have all those answers other than insiders in a half dozen intelligence communities is lying.

The point is not that we know the answers. The point is that there is far more than enough for Democrats and Republicans alike to welcome honest investigation and truth, no matter what it is.

But of course that's not what we're seeing. We see Republican legislators who spent millions on "they said it was a video" Benghazi investigations...but saying today that leaking is all that really matters.

We see hardline Republican commenters, who loved leaks and leakers six months ago, covering their ears and humming, as every day this looks worse and worse.

If there was nothing to this, Republicans would've already trotted out Carter, Manafort, Kushner, et al, to testify and make Dems look awful. That's not what we've seen for the past weeks. We've seen insincere looking people in front of cameras explaining why there's nothing to see here, and no investigation is needed.

My own opinion is the same as yours: Trump himself probably wasn't personally involved before the fact. And even if he was it'll never be evidenced. But his incompetence, as if not already proven, and his part in covering all this up afterward, is going to come out. All just my opinions, and anyone who claims certainty on either side is either lying or obfuscating.

I love you guys. Keep up the good fight

this place is getting brigaded by anti trump shills.

idc if you don't like trump, but this is not a sub for negative news about his administration. "trump has more executive orders than obama" is a fact not a conspiracy.

the mods need to do something about this

If that's true why hasn't this post been buried?

Then go to rising.

Ever wonder why you can't get laid? It's because you say stupid shit like that.

Lmao. Every single society? That's literally bullshit. Quantifiable bullshit. Maybe you guys are super young and so you don't know a lot of history, idk. But that shit is so ignorant lol.

If you don't want to be called racist, don't insist mainstream culture needs to be white and that any inclusion of non white culture is meant to kill off the "white race".

Super fucking simple.

Trump isn't "literaly Hitler" either nor are the Alt Right "Naaazis." Only morons believe that.

You're not good at straw man arguments just so you know. Acknowledging the crusade against whites is not racist nor does it constitute an anti-ethnic agenda. It means you see the very real globalist agenda against whites. Simple.

You must be tired from all those gymnastics

You must be as lazy as I am, unable to form coherent arguments :)

Got proof for that last claim? Pretty sure you might have a slight case of the fake news

t_d is the most popular sub on reddit with 280 million page views a day.

I think there is plenty about Trump that is conspiracy worthy.

People who believe that TD users are Russian bots are fucking retarded.

Should I start reporting the guy who is calling us racists?

Go search for something meaningful to do, seriously.

Says the guy who spends countless hours researching pizzagate. It's funny how you hate the very thing you are, but seem incapable of realizing it.

Just like this post. You are complaining about shills "keeping the good posts" from the front page, not realizing you are a shilling yourself.

It's pretty disgusting that citing CNN articles gets you downvoted but using Sputnik and Russia Today as sources get you upvotes to the front page here.

Lol 90% ok.

African Americans often have lived more generations in America than the average "European" American.

But good luck living in a world that will never go your way. Must be frustrating for you pls dont go on a shooting spray because you're triggered thx

Being "European" is cultural by the way. You're not born with it. Race is a social construct but I understand that you fell for propaganda it's ok!

And guess who else. That's right, Donald Trump. Weird how that never gets mentioned. It's almost like it's a big political thing. But what kind of scumbag accuses their political adversaries of being a pedo? That's right, Trump supporters.

It was downvoted because it was another what about Hillary comment

I'd prefer peaceful ethnic cleansing over the alternative.

Not a condemnation of other alternatives, a fucking preference. Ever wonder why people call alt-righters pieces of shit? This comment right here is the perfect example.

You know what's funny about this? You are never going to get what you want. Welcome to the world, it changes, and people move. Cultures grow, and ethnic groups change. Fuck your pure blood thinking bullshit.

Play nice or no updoots

I believe in this theory, esp since they get VERY active whenever news that is bad for trump or russia or collusion comes out. Especially with BS filler posts that push anything off the front page that has to do with the above topics.

Well, I see where people would downvote your post just because it's speculation with a couple articles

And that's different than any other post that makes it to that top? This is a sub about conspiracies

There's other this weird little thing called "context"

I feel like you may be projecting a bit.

Hilary's emails have taken bombed over a thousand civilians so far. They must Be stopped.

CPP?

First off, it's Lolita Express. I don't give a fuck about the Clintons. Trump is the president. Maybe try focusing on him...

Did you know Trump is just as close to Epstein as the Clintons? But don't take my word for it, take Trump's:

“I’ve known Jeff for fifteen years. Terrific guy,” Trump told New York Magazine for a 2002 profile of Epstein. “He’s a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side. No doubt about it — Jeffrey enjoys his social life.”

That was 15 years ago. So Trump's known him for 30 years. Then there's accusations of rape by a 12 and 13 year old.

But you don't mention that. Because you're a hypocrite. You don't care about reality. You use pedo accusations as a political tool. It's appalling and disgusting. But that's what you do.

What fucking question? Proof is not a question. Provide proof of the ahit you spew.

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So the proof is what? You talk alot but dont say shit. A link to the proof would suffice.

There are thousands of Russians paid to influence people on social media. But for some reason they don't use Reddit?

Stick to video games kid, let the adults handle politics.

She literally sued in Russian court and won.

Sometimes reality isn't what you want it to be. But just because you deny it doesn't mean it's not true. Sorry, that's life.

So why did you link to this article instead of one about the supposed "win"? I'm not seeing anything else about this court case. And it still doesn't prove that TD is Russian bots.

Can you prove definitively that The_Donald is being botted? Or is it all more of this weak sauce beating around the bush?

There is no case that allows abortion.

Lol, yes each of these cases allowed abortion to occur. Before you could not get an abortion. After you could. Are you really this dense?

The cases dealing with abortion address whether certain government restrictions on abortion are allowed under the constitution.

Yes, and current standards are determined by Casey. Like a said.

We can keep going, but I'd recommend against it. Mixing condescension with demonstrated ignorance tends to do a number on your credibility.

Or you know, you could stop deflecting and get back to your cognitive dissonance. You were a hypocrite then you were wrong and wrong again and again. But you're still a hypocrite when it's politically convenient.