They kind of sort of are here already. I use that evasive language loosely.

Like an eBay seller rating cor a Mods approval? Thats a cool idea. But I feel like shills, and bots could skew the numbers pretty easily.

GameFAQs has/had something called "meta-moderation" where users can sift thru the marked messages and see what action was taken, then agree or disagree with the action of the anonymized moderator... this data is used to form an approval rating of the various moderators for purposes of admin feedback.

They kinda do, they make stickied threads asking for new mods and people comment in those threads.

But a pure poll would just get trolled.

Ya my thoughts exactly, if threads can be juk'd than so can mods.

We meet a fully democratic election to determine who our mods are. #makeconspiracygreatagain!!!!!!

OP that is a strange request for a sub that has daily complaints about how full of shills, bots and paid posters.

The voting would be as manipulated as the sub currently is.

I don't think it would improve the sub.

I think the astroturffing that would occur with participant voting would be no more transparent than what is now in place.

I think it would also lead to outside subs trying to take over. Looking at you, T_D.

They haven't already?

Politics is putting up a pretty good fight.

It was transparent when the takeover took place a month or two ago and everyone who pointed it out was banned.

my thoughts exactly.

"Hey, let's get some shills in there as moderators" (as if the ones we have aren't totally sold out anyway).

As much as we'd feel better about having elected the mods in, this guy has a point. What would be FAR more beneficial is full transparency of all actions taken by moderators with a log in a blockchain to prevent any tampering/editing. In addition to that, seeing how many downvotes and upvotes posts have received is crucial, as well as other metrics such as how much a user account upvotes and downvotes (much like Voat). Any botnets mass upvoting or downvoting would be VERY easily discovered by scripts analyzing which accounts doing what. THAT is how you kill the bullshit on reddit. But you won't see that here because it would be far too hard for 'they' to play their games.

tl;dr You can't get rid of bad people, but by allowing daylight everywhere makes their job orders of magnitude more difficult to do and get away with.

seeing how many downvotes and upvotes posts have received is crucial, as well as other metrics such as how much a user account upvotes and downvotes (much like Voat)

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...wouldn't that open it up to be taken over by someone requesting to be mod?

Yes. Globalhealth is still listed as a mod and has full control over the sub.

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I like typing my opinion, and would never feel comfortable managing others opinions and that is what modding a sub would be, so, thanks and no.

I wouldn't care.

But if you pissed off others by request 'its a banning'-

Exactly.

They already stickied a post with the past 2 months asking for suggestions to fill 3 slots. No one really did that, but more so used the thread to complain and bicker.

I've been here a fair while, and I've seen a good overview on moderator actions in this sub.

They aren't perfect, by all means, but they have hard TOS rules by reddit admins to abide by.

They have a tough job, and I don't envy the tough decisions they have to make, but they are alright in my book.

It's a fine line to tread between transparency, and a site like reddit that doesn't have a constitution. It's not America in here. We are at the mercy of administrators of a corporation.

Instead of complaining, why not show some examples of their 'censorship' and unfair mod actions?

Or better yet, why not contribute something positive?

We aren't at the mercy of the administrators of a corporation, but the owner of a corporation. Ironically, this sounds exactly like the US under the Federal Reserve, with or without de jure "constitution".

How about no mods at all ? No mods no censorship . What is the point of having moderators anyway ?

What is the point of having moderators anyway ?

For one thing, to remove malicious posts with personal information. Posts of this type would surely blanket the sub quickly, with the purpose of destroying it, if it were not for enforcement of strict rules around this and other issues.

1. You can't have a modless subreddit, reddit doesn't allow for it. There has to be a top mod and the top mod always has final control.

2. Unless it were actively moderated the sub would get deleted for TOS violations.

Maybe one or two. Would be interesting to see how the process would go at very least.

We really don't have too many mod issues here. Typically nothing gets deleted and I only see comments removed if someone is being a crazy fuckhead. The best kind of mods are the mods we don't have to think about, and honestly they never cross my mind.

Absolutely not.

I'm not sure how I would now some anonymous user would make a better mod than another. If a sub's rules are enforced fairly by the current mods, and they seem to be here, then I don't care who picks them. Not a job I would want, and God bless any user who has volunteered for the job, or accepted it from another mod. So, for me...everything is just fine, and thanks to the current mods.

Are you sad that an attempt to dox an Antifa guy and assign him to an alleged crime got shut down? What's your anon code on /pol?

Lol

I'd love to mod this place

I think the mods do a great job with this subreddit personally.

Im starting a conspiracy theory as to why you are suggesting this.

How are they chosen? Didn't a mod leave some time ago because they were weirded out by some land deal & power struggle & McDonalds or something? Um...CIA?

Lol what? Link?

Idk this was early last year or late 2015

Do you remember when /u/sarahconnor (I think I spelled that right) turned himself into the FBI?

I do NOT. Link?

Msn, that was over a year ago. I'm pretty sure he deleted everything before he turned himself in. You could ask some of the older mods. I think /u/sovereignman may have been around then. I'm not sure. I only pay attention to mods when things go wrong, which isn't too often I don't think.

Of course when SC left it was kind of a big deal so mods may be touchy about it. I don't know. I'm not familiar with the mod intrigue, if there is any. Also that was when I was using my alternate account before I decided to switch to this one to see if I could mess with my karma for shiggles.

Hmmm. Thx

Their shouldn't even be mods. All mods are cancer.

They are. They sticky posts and users can request why they should be a mod then the most up voted get offered the position.

yup...I was voted in this way...OP seems to have his curls in an uproar.

No, this community has been brigaded over and over again.

I strongly oppose any change in the community what so ever.

That's what shareblue and trump brigade want. An I evening of the scales.

Haven't we proven that voting doesn't fucking work?

what do you mean?

He probably referred to the US elections.

questions of "hey, who are these users?"

You're going to get those questions regardless.

And the sticky on this subject several weeks back was asking for additional nominations.

I vote me. because I'm the best..... /s

If voting works, how come the present day USA ?

For the most part I think the mods here do a good job. Not 100% of the time to be sure, but mostly. It wasn't always like that tho. A few short months ago it was a different story.

Also, there is no way they can please everyone all the time. It's not even possible.

So when they don't do a 'good job' what are your suggestions? It seems your suggestion is to ignore it. Which gives leeway to make detrimental decisions without any consequences. I don't agree to that.

What really can be done, ya know? Any system in which we use will be open to corruption to be sure. The best we can do is mitigate it. In my mind, the best we can do is just assume they're doing their jobs and hope hope for the best.

So whoever has the most bots, gets to choose the mods ?:)

Don't you think we all as a collective should be the mods?

Not gonna happen, all you can hope for is that if you post good, informed content, it will be upvoted and be made visible.

Oh, and that the mods won't delete it of course.

Nope... cause the "community" on reddit ain't really too bright and aren't known for making good decisions. Plus... brigading... if you wanna moderate a sub go make one... but don't spam it here.