Do you believe all this excitement of going to Mars ( a barren planet) is just a decoy because other non published missions to other planets are already happening in secreŧ?
I think when people talk about a secret space program on here, they are not talking about rockets. I thought they were mainly talking about conspiracy theories about reversed engineered alien tech, or perhaps tech the government has traded for with aliens. Maybe even FTL capable stuff like Stargate.
I would love it so much if the gov told us we have FLT capable ships and can go to other star systems. I would love to travel to another world, right after we revolt and kill everyone in the government who lied to us about this for years.
In theory it could be done. All the satellite launches could be part/supply missions and the ISS could be a secret fabrication facility.
But I would ask what planet and why? Venus has cool science, but it is a barren wasteland that is incredibly hot. Mercury is too close to the sun. Jupiter and it's moons are crazy far and would require engines that don't (officially) exist. Even if you want to go with the secret planet on the other side of the sun (that is totally not a lens flair guys), the transfer time would be way more than a trip to just Mars.
A secret mission could be done, but I'm not sure why it would need to be. Other than just secret military stuff or a near earth object situation (like the movies).
If we're entertaining the idea of a SSP, it seems silly to quote facts from the SSP fronts about planets. We (me and you), really have no idea what planets may or may not be of interest, and we definitely can't act like we know they are too hot, too cold, etc., etc.
Yes. I have one, and I do from time to time. I'm not saying the ISS is a secret fabrication center. However, from an engineering standpoint it would be possible to build another craft in secret using satellite missions as cover. Possibly having sections of the ISS repurposed for the new craft.
I don't for one second believe this is the case, but if I needed run a secret mission thats how I would do it. Like if the government wanted to keep a doomsday astroid hidden until they had a plan in place. I'm pulling that straight from the plot of Deep Impact.
The ISS is a science station with some of the coolest engineering in the world.
No. I believe we went to Mars, we went to the Moon , and I believe in the Round Earth Theory. We have not gone to other planets because they are far away.
Once I saw the Mars Rover landing press conference, I just knew it was a farce. It's almost as bad as the first moon landing press conference. These guys are just actors.
I think "we've" already been there, I don't understand the hype. Because it may be a desolate planet, on the surface, anyway. Also, I'm thinking, it's a 'one-way ticket' to go there. There's no Earth to Mars transit system.
"A Dutch start-up named Mars One is hoping to send a select group of brave astronauts on a one-way trip to the Red Planet in the year 2023 with the aim of establishing a permanent human colony.
If all proceeds as planned, Mars One would launch four astronauts on the interplanetary voyage in 2022, landing the team on the surface of Mars in 2023, after which they would begin constructing the colony. Every two years, a team of four additional astronauts would arrive to reinforce the existing colony."
If I had found something very interesting in space, I would do it in secret (if I was in charge), cancel everything space related and only work on that but that could create suspicion. Instead I would send something to a planet that wont tell us much (Mars), then I would make give some money to movie producers to give the public a movie about Mars once every year. Then hint on the possibility that a human mission to Mars was coming in the next 10 years. Saying that was our next goal.
The real mission would be flying in FTL ufo tech spaceships to other systems and continue to talk with other civilizations in secret.
I would love it so much if the gov told us we have FLT capable ships and can go to other star systems. I would love to travel to another world, right after we revolt and kill everyone in the government who lied to us about this for years.
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n/a BaconChapstick 2017-04-26
No.
Don't you think we would see rockets leaving our planet? Launching a rocket isn't exactly something you can reasonably keep a secret.
n/a ClimateMaster 2017-04-26
I think when people talk about a secret space program on here, they are not talking about rockets. I thought they were mainly talking about conspiracy theories about reversed engineered alien tech, or perhaps tech the government has traded for with aliens. Maybe even FTL capable stuff like Stargate.
n/a CallMeDende 2017-04-26
^ This is what I was talking about and it wouldn't surprise me if it was actually the case.
n/a ClimateMaster 2017-04-26
I would love it so much if the gov told us we have FLT capable ships and can go to other star systems. I would love to travel to another world, right after we revolt and kill everyone in the government who lied to us about this for years.
n/a liamhogan 2017-04-26
You should watch 'Ascension' which was a mini series on Syfy network. You can probably find watchable episodes with a simple google search.
n/a ClimateMaster 2017-04-26
I saw that, I kinda liked it. it wasn't what I was expecting.
n/a liamhogan 2017-04-26
Yeah definitely caught me off guard as well, but it was certainly a fresh narrative
n/a CallMeDende 2017-04-26
Well if our government has really been secretly working on UFO type technology then Rockets are 100% out of the picture.
n/a ZachAttackPewPew 2017-04-26
In theory it could be done. All the satellite launches could be part/supply missions and the ISS could be a secret fabrication facility.
But I would ask what planet and why? Venus has cool science, but it is a barren wasteland that is incredibly hot. Mercury is too close to the sun. Jupiter and it's moons are crazy far and would require engines that don't (officially) exist. Even if you want to go with the secret planet on the other side of the sun (that is totally not a lens flair guys), the transfer time would be way more than a trip to just Mars.
A secret mission could be done, but I'm not sure why it would need to be. Other than just secret military stuff or a near earth object situation (like the movies).
n/a ckreon 2017-04-26
If we're entertaining the idea of a SSP, it seems silly to quote facts from the SSP fronts about planets. We (me and you), really have no idea what planets may or may not be of interest, and we definitely can't act like we know they are too hot, too cold, etc., etc.
n/a OniExpress 2017-04-26
You realize you can get a telescope and look at the ISS, right? Ain't no "secret fabrication" happening there.
n/a ZachAttackPewPew 2017-04-26
Yes. I have one, and I do from time to time. I'm not saying the ISS is a secret fabrication center. However, from an engineering standpoint it would be possible to build another craft in secret using satellite missions as cover. Possibly having sections of the ISS repurposed for the new craft.
I don't for one second believe this is the case, but if I needed run a secret mission thats how I would do it. Like if the government wanted to keep a doomsday astroid hidden until they had a plan in place. I'm pulling that straight from the plot of Deep Impact.
The ISS is a science station with some of the coolest engineering in the world.
n/a Prgjdsaewweoidsm 2017-04-26
They're definitely up to something. And it's not a useless mission to a barren planet just to say we did it.
n/a groman28 2017-04-26
What other planet would they go to? Aside from Earth, Mars is the least barren one out there.
n/a dsannes 2017-04-26
Im not excited to whip off to another planet. not interested. although, if you wanna go, ill try to make it a little better for you.
the other planets groups we do junk/business/stuff with... that's a big factor for those involved. for the rest, its not a thing.
n/a outtanutmeds 2017-04-26
No. I believe we went to Mars, we went to the Moon , and I believe in the Round Earth Theory. We have not gone to other planets because they are far away.
n/a blueroadmetal 2017-04-26
We are not going to Mars. Elon Musk needs to show us that a trip to our own moon is possible! First things first.
n/a Chokaholic 2017-04-26
Once I saw the Mars Rover landing press conference, I just knew it was a farce. It's almost as bad as the first moon landing press conference. These guys are just actors.
https://youtu.be/qGT-I7HpAWw
n/a Marks161718 2017-04-26
Many people don't believe the Appollo missions landed on the moon.
n/a choosiestchoicechose 2017-04-26
I think "we've" already been there, I don't understand the hype. Because it may be a desolate planet, on the surface, anyway. Also, I'm thinking, it's a 'one-way ticket' to go there. There's no Earth to Mars transit system.
"A Dutch start-up named Mars One is hoping to send a select group of brave astronauts on a one-way trip to the Red Planet in the year 2023 with the aim of establishing a permanent human colony.
If all proceeds as planned, Mars One would launch four astronauts on the interplanetary voyage in 2022, landing the team on the surface of Mars in 2023, after which they would begin constructing the colony. Every two years, a team of four additional astronauts would arrive to reinforce the existing colony."
http://abcnews.go.com/International/dutch-company-offering-trip-mars/story?id=18832412
n/a liamhogan 2017-04-26
I'm guessing you've already watched syfy's mini series 'ascension' ?
n/a fullstoriestotell 2017-04-26
Is that the plot?
n/a liamhogan 2017-04-26
Not quite but it involves a super far fetched government plan regarding deep space travel
n/a evenglow 2017-04-26
OP, what is your opinion?
n/a fullstoriestotell 2017-04-26
If I had found something very interesting in space, I would do it in secret (if I was in charge), cancel everything space related and only work on that but that could create suspicion. Instead I would send something to a planet that wont tell us much (Mars), then I would make give some money to movie producers to give the public a movie about Mars once every year. Then hint on the possibility that a human mission to Mars was coming in the next 10 years. Saying that was our next goal.
The real mission would be flying in FTL ufo tech spaceships to other systems and continue to talk with other civilizations in secret.
n/a evenglow 2017-04-26
Wait. How old are you? Not trying to be mean, just have to ask.
n/a fullstoriestotell 2017-04-26
I really dont believe that could be true though. Nobody is conspiring to hide anything. Actually I am very excited about Mars.
n/a ClimateMaster 2017-04-26
I would love it so much if the gov told us we have FLT capable ships and can go to other star systems. I would love to travel to another world, right after we revolt and kill everyone in the government who lied to us about this for years.