This is seriously depressing to me. If Israel had something to do with it, that would mean our "friendship" is a lie and we have been giving billions to the same country who murdered 3000 Americans. I hope it isn't true.
The holocausts' claim that 11,000,000 people (Jews + Goyim) died as a result of being gassed in a death camp is a false claim. The actual number I believe is somewhere between 300,000 to 500,000. Gas Chambers existed only to get rid of typhus carried by lice. Do you want to know more?
There is actually a lot of evidence that indicates most atrocity claims were fabricated and the official story is based mostly on these claims.
Why do you think 14 countries have made it illegal to question The Narrative, if it is able to stand up to criticism? At the very least, this shows lack of confidence in veracity of many of the official claims made.
Here are a couple of websites that post information contrary to the official narrative. Just view with an open mind.
6 million jews systematically murdered? that sounds far fetched to me, almost like the biggest conspiracy ever theorized! do you know how many nazi's and useful idiots it would take to kill 6 million jews? surely someone would talk!
either the nazis were all powerful and able to keep the holocaust a secret, and should have taken over the world by now, or the nazis were not all powerful and thus incapable of carrying out the holocaust.
(this either/or false dichotomy proposition is what i see passing as sound logic on this board lately)
No, there is not much hard evidence that the atrocity claims are false. You are free to believe what you want. But there is a ton of evidence to support the atrocities and the numbers killed in the Holocaust. You would have to throw out a ton of facts to believe otherwise.
the holocaust doesn't add up. 10 years ago i never heard anyone question the holocaust on the internets, but i did keep hearing people being slandered as "holocaust deniers", and every time i saw that allegation leveled against someone i would politely request more info on their so-called "holocaust denial", because the very concept of it was so puzzling to me. at first, nobody would ever oblige my requests to see actual examples of holocaust denials either by the person they were slandering or anyone else, but i kept asking and one day someone finally obliged and i started looking at holocaust denials, and before long i was pretty well convinced that the holocaust was just an other example in a very long history of atrocity propaganda. today, openly questioning the holocaust is pretty common in this sub, which to me is a very significant development, because to question the holocaust opens a person up to ridicule/persecution/harassment/d0xxing, etc
Ask yourself why there are no laws against criticising christians, or muslims or buddhists? Because the law as it stands is enough, yes.
So why does all these countries need specific laws to protect Jews?
Because we are all anti-semites? Or because they want to shut down anyone who questions the narrative?
I don't think it was a hoax, it was just exaggerated and they inflated the numbers to help advance zionism. They didn't even care about killing jews it was just an excuse to get slave labor.
There's loads of theories in regards to holocaust skepticism, revisionism and denial, but from my own research I agree with you, this explanation seems the most likely. 2nd Baron Lionel Walter Rothschild was a significant influence in the creation of Israel through his connections in British government. He's a good start into research on the topic. I surely don't doubt there were labour camps in Germany, but I do believe we've been lied in regards to the explanation of the deaths and the numbers, all so the Israel agenda could be pushed with actual momentum behind it - propaganda-fuelled public shock.
"6 million jews" were reported as being persecuted in many different contexts, times and places, long before the rise of Nazi's in Germany
"6 million jews" was apparently a very old meme that is significant in jewish culture/religion. some say that zionists believe that israel can't be born again as a nation until 6 million jews have been persecuted, which is why they had to have the holohoax just before the founding of the modern state of israel
It's not a hoax, it's a myth. There's a difference. Most people honestly believe the myth to be real. They don't think they are fooling anybody, they think they are presenting the truth when they regurgitate the Holocaust mythology, which was developed in the decades following WW2.
n. A traditional, typically ancient story dealing with supernatural beings, ancestors, or heroes that serves as a fundamental type in the worldview of a people, as by explaining aspects of the natural world or delineating the psychology, customs, or ideals of society: the myth of Eros and Psyche; a creation myth.
n. Such stories considered as a group: the realm of myth.
n. A popular belief or story that has become associated with a person, institution, or occurrence, especially one considered to illustrate a cultural ideal: a star whose fame turned her into a myth; the pioneer myth of suburbia.
hoax (hōks)►
n. An act intended to deceive or trick.
n. Something that has been established or accepted by fraudulent means.
v. To deceive or cheat by using a hoax.
i would say by these definitions that that holocaust was a hoax that became a myth
Well, given that three links on a public internet forum contain enough information to implicate the Mossad in 9/11 in a convincing manner, and that Eglin and Langley regularly scour through public internet forums for their own reasons, it seems very likely that whatever information you have, America has too.
Israel, Saudi Arabia, and the US comprise a triumvirate allied in the effort to destabilize the regimes of their Middle East enemies. Personally I think there's ample evidence to suggest that 9/11 was a joint effort. Zionists provided expertise on the ground, radical deep state neo-cons facilitated the operation, and the House of Saud provided the terrorists and money.
Oh yeah, I agree. But they still needed some Muslims for the legend building. No idea if they were in on it, or duped into thinking they were really carrying out the attack.
It is obvious to me that our government and institutions have been being blackmailed into committing war crimes, fraud and mass murder by the Israelis ever since 9/11. I'm really glad more people are finally recognizing it, it has been hellish to be accused as an 'anti-Semite' for simply telling the truth about these events.
This is seriously depressing to me. If Israel had something to do with it, that would mean our "friendship" is a lie and we have been giving billions to the same country who murdered 3000 Americans. I hope it isn't true.
Remember USS Liberty? A deliberate attack on a US military ship by Israel, with the intention of sinking the ship? Lyndon Johnson prevented any defense of the ship, did not retaliate, and the US is still giving billions a year to Israel. So why should it be any different if we find out that Israel did 9-11? The billions would still flow to Israel, because Jews run the US.
i had always assumed that the British were behind the Opium Wars, but it turns out it was the Rothschild's, the same group that is creating the opium epidemic in USA today
because if the people actually knew what was the real issue of 9/11 and the resultant war on terror, it would make kristallnacht look like a weekend at Disney Orlando.
If the American Public figures out that Israel was actually behind 9/11, there would be a fury in this Nation to remove the cancer like no other in history. In the future there would be a jew holiday to remember the slaughter when TheAmericanPublic realized its "only friend in the middle east" was its greatest enemy.
Gotcha.
I mean I hope Americans would do something if they found out. An American friend of mine seems to think that even if it became known, Americans wouldn't do anything :(.
Do you think the truth will ever come out about this? Do you talk about it irl? I would like to wake people around me up, but I have no idea how to go about it..
have you heard of a group called AIPAC? American Israel Public Affairs Commitee. If Americans became widely aware of Israeli and American Jew involvement along with non jew American Zionists, there would be massive bloodshed. I dont know if it will ever become widely known, but more people know every day.
because if the people actually knew what was the real issue of 9/11 and the resultant war on terror, it would make kristallnacht look like a weekend at Disney Orlando.
I think you're wrong. What happened after Israel attacked and tried to sink USS Liberty tells me that the revelation that Mossad planned and executed the 9-11 attacks would not affect the stream of money flowing from Washington to Israel. Jews control the United States. They control the politicians and the media.
Whoever had the technology to dustify those buildings.
There were three levels at play during this event:
Level 1: "Muslim patsies" and other low-level organizers
Level 2: US/Israeli/Saudi intelligence agencies with corrupt members of the US gov
Level 3: ? - The faction responsible for the financial high crimes of 9/11, for breaking the codes of practically every US government agency, and finally deploying exotic high technology as a display for everyone who's paying attention.
It's very likely that most operators in the Level 1 and 2 categories had no clue that a Level 3 was going to show their hand. In fact, I think the level 2 players (Cheney, etc) had a moment of panic when those towers disappeared and they realized they were no longer in control.
9/11 was much bigger than the work of one country. It was an occult mega ritual perpetrated by what appears to be a breakaway civilization.
something erupted up inside each of the two towers, smoke or dust shoots up above the roofline as each tower collapse, then theres the pyroclastic cloud that covers a square mile or two.
Thermate to weaken the connections and destroy the exterior, the multiple bigger bombs to destroy the core.
So it's not a pyroclastic cloud. You see people walking through it and out of it. The buildings weren't "dustified" but the concrete floors that fell onto each other were largely smashed to dust. Also, a neutron bomb is a type of fusion bomb, so we would expect fission and fusion byproducts detected in the invironment. Got any on those?
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The author of that book, S.K. Bain, worked for PNAC Founder William Kristol.
There certainly were occult ritual elements surrounding 9/11. But citing that book as your primary source is being awfully careless about the threat of disinformation, being two degrees from PNAC's founder.
In regards to the CIA - Dr Steve Pieczenik says the CIA was high-jacked by Israeli-firsters before 9/11 and that Bush was just a dumb leader who didn't have the slightest clue what was going on.
I believe that Bush Sr absolutely knew beforehand but I always wondered if "they" didn't technically tell Bush Jr so he could have plausible deniability since he would have to be so public afterwards.
Bush's reaction on 9/11 says this: he was informed that SOMETHING was going to happen that day and he needed to be out of town literally reading to children
But when he found out he was probobly scared because he knew he could get in trouble for the job because he had foreknowledge.
No, the actual reports that came out stating this as so? I am confused as what is everybody's problem is. I never said it was truth. Just that yes, reports have stated from well before 9/11 that Osama was planning an attack on us soil. that's the story is it not?
what is perhaps most curious about this particular PDB is that GWB specifically requested that it be created for him. this wasn't just an un-sollicited needle-in-a-haystack clue given to a clueless puppet who wasn't paying attention in meetings.
it would be hard to imagine how the Pentagon would have gone along with the FBI in being attacked on 9/11, unless the Pentagon really wanted to go along with it.
It's difficult to accept at first, but once you see the bigger picture and the influence and power Isreal has on the US, you will find that this is most likely the truth.
There are some pictures of them surrounded with boxes full of blasting caps. Since the buildings were destroyed in controlled demolitions, those pictures of boxes of blasting caps could be considered to be evidence. I would think it was if I was the investigator.
I will agree with you. There are some Jews who are not Zionists. But, but by far the majority of us are. Zionism comes in different flavors. We all don't agree on the same policies. We are very diverse.
We are in a conspiracy sub, talking about an enormously popular conspiracy theory. I'm interested to hear your thoughts on the conspiracy theories you believe are true.
To me it looks like you come to this sub to call people regard and Nazis. I don't see you engaging in any actual discussion. You willing to discuss conspiracy theories or do you have another agenda?
Listen to yourself. "Your kind"? I'm part of a "kind", now, that is different from you? What would that be? A "conspiracy theorist" or maybe "normal user"? Tell me about my kind.
What do you think should be done with this "kind" you're talking about?
They certainly were under Chertoff. Remember skeletor? That FEMA talk wasn't just talk. If we look who's running it now, I would say no. Definitely not.
That is true. I'm just perplexed as to why a Muslim country would agree to this when all the blame would be put on muslims. What did they get out of this?
They assisted, no doubt. SEE NORAD for more details. The very idea that we employ a national border protection defense with these guys and on the very day that we need them, somebody (Cheney) had them flying a over the country. Coincidence? I think not.
They want to see their competitors in the oil market like Iran and Iraq out of the picture. They want chaos in the rest of the Middle East so it's easier to control things at home.
Was the Middle east always a chaotic place? I don't know much about the region. I hear people say it was a nice place before Israel.. and that America didn't have any enemies there before we became "friends" with Israel.
Wellllll.....there's some truth to that, but even if you go back to Laurence of Arabia days, the West has been screwing around with their geography, border and politics.
Middle East has always been pretty chaotic. Israel has no doubt made it worse. But the Saudis are a big part of the problem and a big part of the conspiracy, no doubt.
The Arabs were tribal; always warring with one another. Lawrence of Arabia united the tribes to fight the Turks so that Palestine would be free of the Ottoman Empire.
Because they are close family friends with the Bush family and were willing to helpout. They didn't do much, the 'hijackers' were all patsies. The planes that hit the WTC buildings were computer controlled drones. No one was needed in the cockpit.
Just curious, how would you explain the calls of the people on board to their families? And what happened to the planes that have been documented to have left the airports?
How would you explain them?? Most of the calls were at altitudes and airspeeds that make cell phone calls impossible to this day. IMO the calls are not only one of the many smoking guns of 9/11, but also proof positive that the original planes were switched out with drones (presumably), and that the passengers were offloaded at some secure location. There a huge body of research that has been done on these calls--you should grab yourself a drink and google the crap out of it.
Here's a teaser for you: Barbara Olson, a well-know conservative TV commentator, supposedly made two calls to her husband, Theodore Olson, Solicitor General of the US, from American Airlines Flight 77 some time before it crashed into the Pentagon.
According to Theodore, during the calls she said that everyone had been herded to the back of the plane by four or five middle eastern men armed "with knives and cardboard cutters." He related this information to CNN via telephone late in the afternoon on 9/11, and is the sole source of the "boxcutter" detail of the whole story. Everyone knows the hijackers were armed with boxcutters, right? Well Barbara's husband is the only reason why we all know this.
Problem is she couldn't have made these calls. The 757 she was flying in was not, according to American Airlines, equipped with seat back phones, and the plane was too high and flying too fast for her to have used her cell phone at the time she supposedly contacted her husband.
So what are we supposed to believe? That the Solicitor General of the US just spontaneously made this story up to get his voice on the news? On the afternoon of his wife's sudden, unexpected death? That's crazy talk.
The way most researchers see it is that either Barbara made these calls after AA 77 was grounded, and Theodore is telling the truth, or, alternatively, Theodore was fed this story by the perpetrators and paid or coerced into disseminating it as such to news organizations.
As an aside, for your consideration, Theodore Olson was one the lawyers who represented Bush and Cheney in court during the contested presidential election of 2000.
Jews, Cryptojews, Zionists, Ashkenazi Jews, I don't know what the hell they are, but I sure recognize one when I see one most of the time. INB4 I'm on a list.
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Is jewish a race now? Can't a goy just throw out some conspiracys without being labeled anti-semetic? Why so sensitive, it's like you're waiting for people to say this stuff. Almost like there's something to hide.
/He said, imagining how this conversation would play out if discussed in a court of law.
Hard to say, but there is at least some fuckery with 9/11 and covering up/planned terror actions. If the US government and military command are involved, it isn't the first time terror actions against americans has been considered, but that was rejected by JFK
Mossad knew about it in advance. We can be sure about this, thanks to the Dancing Israelis. Either they didn't tell Washington, or the told and Washington ignored the warning. It seems probable that they had an agent, or agent, among the terrorists planning the operation. Were those agents actually masterminding the attack? Maybe. It seems like a complex operation for a dozen stupid Arabs, but it would not be beyond the technical expertise of Mossad.
this seemingly un-related video of a top-down progressive collapse controlled demolition demonstrates 2 very significant facts
1) you don't actually need to prepare the entire building, because the top will crush the bottom, contrary to what you may believe
2) because 1) is true, top-down progressive collapse is a tried-and-true method of controlled demolition, and would probably be the method of choice for the demolition of the towers, considering the alternatives are much more risky
Yes and yes. Not only that, it was themonuclear. (/r/nuclear911) Israel nuked NYC. Perhaps we should be grateful that the detonation was subterranean, not atmospheric, limiting the death toll to a few thousand cancer patients. But it lead to over a million dead Arabs, so I suppose the death toll was merely transferred geographically.
For sure. Our favorite propaganda outlet, the NYTimes, even ran a story trying to pass them off as "glacial potholes" -- as if you could build a 450,000,000 kg building on fill dirt!
That was always my theory from the beginning. Ever since I read about the video-taping israelis and the security company at the WTC and the students. I believe they were heavily involved and I also believe Saudi Arabia was involved since it was they who were evacuated and they who supplied the fake pilots. It was their charities and finances that backed the terrorist cell in the US.
Saudi Arabia and Israel had big motivations for wanting the middle-East broken up and they are both oil interested.
Conspiracy theory: The Republican Party Administration organised 9/11
The official line: The Republican Party administration was so incompetent that they allowed one of the biggest terrorism events to occur on their watch.
Without a question what happened: The Republican party, Racists, Nazis, the Right Wing, Conservatives and alt-right all profited from the fear of islamic terrorism and racism ever since that event. Straight to the bank.
Mossad wired the buildings and made sure airport security was mishandled
they know who is on which side by who asked for video footage of the WTC and airports. No one who knows whats up would dare ask for it, anyone who does is on a list that chertoff would have edged out of the agencies entirely.
oh, chertoff is mossad also. All those duel nationals are.
We live in a puppet country, much like airstrip one was part of oceania, the united states has been taken over from the top by israelis.
you are either working against this or you're a traitor
One way to think of this, which might be literally true, but at least serves as a good thought experiment, is the following:
There's no illuminati per se. Instead, the government as establishment created this CIA apparatus for supposedly good reasons but ignored the critics who worried about what it would lead to. Meanwhile, folks who were trying to help Israel managed to weasel into that apparatus and 9/11 happened.
It's not as if there's some master plan just stacks of abuses overlappingang layers of criminality.
Our freedom gives us wealth and power and that makes us an effective empire which can afford it. But the empire stuff is still bad.
If we ever fully embraced totalitarianism, our power would collapse. But we could still leverage our wealth into like first strike nukes. The USSR took 60 years to collapse.
Basically the whole group of wars that WE of the United States are fighting and paying for, are not because these people are our enemies, it's because they are Israel's enemies. All of the "Arab spring" revolts were created to destabilize any one that Israel doesn't like. Also the Syria gas bombing is fake so that we would have a reason to attack Assad for Israel's benefit
Well, given that three links on a public internet forum contain enough information to implicate the Mossad in 9/11 in a convincing manner, and that Eglin and Langley regularly scour through public internet forums for their own reasons, it seems very likely that whatever information you have, America has too.
Israel, Saudi Arabia, and the US comprise a triumvirate allied in the effort to destabilize the regimes of their Middle East enemies. Personally I think there's ample evidence to suggest that 9/11 was a joint effort. Zionists provided expertise on the ground, radical deep state neo-cons facilitated the operation, and the House of Saud provided the terrorists and money.
It is obvious to me that our government and institutions have been being blackmailed into committing war crimes, fraud and mass murder by the Israelis ever since 9/11. I'm really glad more people are finally recognizing it, it has been hellish to be accused as an 'anti-Semite' for simply telling the truth about these events.
The Arabs were tribal; always warring with one another. Lawrence of Arabia united the tribes to fight the Turks so that Palestine would be free of the Ottoman Empire.
I believe that Bush Sr absolutely knew beforehand but I always wondered if "they" didn't technically tell Bush Jr so he could have plausible deniability since he would have to be so public afterwards.
Bush's reaction on 9/11 says this: he was informed that SOMETHING was going to happen that day and he needed to be out of town literally reading to children
But when he found out he was probobly scared because he knew he could get in trouble for the job because he had foreknowledge.
This is seriously depressing to me. If Israel had something to do with it, that would mean our "friendship" is a lie and we have been giving billions to the same country who murdered 3000 Americans. I hope it isn't true.
Remember USS Liberty? A deliberate attack on a US military ship by Israel, with the intention of sinking the ship? Lyndon Johnson prevented any defense of the ship, did not retaliate, and the US is still giving billions a year to Israel. So why should it be any different if we find out that Israel did 9-11? The billions would still flow to Israel, because Jews run the US.
n. A traditional, typically ancient story dealing with supernatural beings, ancestors, or heroes that serves as a fundamental type in the worldview of a people, as by explaining aspects of the natural world or delineating the psychology, customs, or ideals of society: the myth of Eros and Psyche; a creation myth.
n. Such stories considered as a group: the realm of myth.
n. A popular belief or story that has become associated with a person, institution, or occurrence, especially one considered to illustrate a cultural ideal: a star whose fame turned her into a myth; the pioneer myth of suburbia.
hoax (hōks)►
n. An act intended to deceive or trick.
n. Something that has been established or accepted by fraudulent means.
v. To deceive or cheat by using a hoax.
i would say by these definitions that that holocaust was a hoax that became a myth
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n/a The_Veracity_Sector 2017-04-29
You might be interested in this:
http://21stcenturywire.com/2015/09/11/911-revisited-declassified-fbi-files-reveal-new-details-about-the-five-israelis/
Maybe this:
https://antizionistleague.files.wordpress.com/2014/02/children-in-israel-false-flag-911-wtc-twin-towers.jpg
And this:
https://electronicintifada.net/blogs/ali-abunimah/its-very-good-recalling-benjamin-netanyahus-words-day-911-attacks
n/a rockpaperdresses 2017-04-29
thanks
n/a The_Veracity_Sector 2017-04-29
No problem
n/a rockpaperdresses 2017-04-29
This is seriously depressing to me. If Israel had something to do with it, that would mean our "friendship" is a lie and we have been giving billions to the same country who murdered 3000 Americans. I hope it isn't true.
n/a The_Veracity_Sector 2017-04-29
Bingo. Keep seeking the truth you will find much much more about "our friends".
I'll just leave this here:
https://youtu.be/lEDPOPr7qiY
n/a orionquest2016 2017-04-29
Check out this Fox News report from back then
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LbkQddEDPs0
n/a 13lacula 2017-04-29
Yep. And the holocaust was a hoax too.
n/a rockpaperdresses 2017-04-29
Are you being serious.....
n/a 13lacula 2017-04-29
The holocausts' claim that 11,000,000 people (Jews + Goyim) died as a result of being gassed in a death camp is a false claim. The actual number I believe is somewhere between 300,000 to 500,000. Gas Chambers existed only to get rid of typhus carried by lice. Do you want to know more?
n/a permanent_denial 2017-04-29
They are actually walking back the "5 million goyim" claim. But the "holy 6 million" is still intact, so don't worry.
http://www.jta.org/2017/01/31/news-opinion/united-states/remember-the-11-million-why-an-inflated-victims-tally-irks-holocaust-historians
n/a outtanutmeds 2017-04-29
It's a good thing it wasn't Carl Sagan who counted how many Jews died. It would then have been "billions and billions".
n/a rockpaperdresses 2017-04-29
Sure.
n/a SpecOpsAlpha 2017-04-29
Gibt Ihnen schon tu fressen!
(give them something to chew on)
--- a common joke said by those pouring in the Zyklon-B on the Juden
n/a 13lacula 2017-04-29
? Pls explain
n/a SpecOpsAlpha 2017-04-29
Sadists ran the death camp (totenslager) and chuckled while gassing the Jews.
n/a EnoughNoLibsSpam 2017-04-29
the atrocities were real in his mind, if not in fact
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herman_Rosenblat
n/a permanent_denial 2017-04-29
There is actually a lot of evidence that indicates most atrocity claims were fabricated and the official story is based mostly on these claims.
Why do you think 14 countries have made it illegal to question The Narrative, if it is able to stand up to criticism? At the very least, this shows lack of confidence in veracity of many of the official claims made.
Here are a couple of websites that post information contrary to the official narrative. Just view with an open mind.
http://www.holohoax101.org
https://holocaustdeprogrammingcourse.com
Here are a couple forums for debating the Holocaust, you can read through the threads and learn the arguments for both sides.
https://forum.codoh.com
https://rodoh.info/forum/viewforum.php?f=13
Good luck with your investigation!
n/a rockpaperdresses 2017-04-29
Thanks...
It sounds far-fetched to me but I will give it a read later....
n/a EnoughNoLibsSpam 2017-04-29
6 million jews systematically murdered? that sounds far fetched to me, almost like the biggest conspiracy ever theorized! do you know how many nazi's and useful idiots it would take to kill 6 million jews? surely someone would talk!
either the nazis were all powerful and able to keep the holocaust a secret, and should have taken over the world by now, or the nazis were not all powerful and thus incapable of carrying out the holocaust.
(this either/or false dichotomy proposition is what i see passing as sound logic on this board lately)
n/a ZombieRightsActivist 2017-04-29
No, there is not much hard evidence that the atrocity claims are false. You are free to believe what you want. But there is a ton of evidence to support the atrocities and the numbers killed in the Holocaust. You would have to throw out a ton of facts to believe otherwise.
n/a EnoughNoLibsSpam 2017-04-29
the holocaust doesn't add up. 10 years ago i never heard anyone question the holocaust on the internets, but i did keep hearing people being slandered as "holocaust deniers", and every time i saw that allegation leveled against someone i would politely request more info on their so-called "holocaust denial", because the very concept of it was so puzzling to me. at first, nobody would ever oblige my requests to see actual examples of holocaust denials either by the person they were slandering or anyone else, but i kept asking and one day someone finally obliged and i started looking at holocaust denials, and before long i was pretty well convinced that the holocaust was just an other example in a very long history of atrocity propaganda. today, openly questioning the holocaust is pretty common in this sub, which to me is a very significant development, because to question the holocaust opens a person up to ridicule/persecution/harassment/d0xxing, etc
n/a permanent_denial 2017-04-29
Hard evidence like what, as in to support the atrocity claims?
n/a usernamenn 2017-04-29
Ask yourself why there are no laws against criticising christians, or muslims or buddhists? Because the law as it stands is enough, yes. So why does all these countries need specific laws to protect Jews?
Because we are all anti-semites? Or because they want to shut down anyone who questions the narrative?
n/a FootballJedi 2017-04-29
I don't think it was a hoax, it was just exaggerated and they inflated the numbers to help advance zionism. They didn't even care about killing jews it was just an excuse to get slave labor.
n/a 13lacula 2017-04-29
Holohoax as the made up 6M number crossed with the lack of gas chambers. You take those two things and what you're left with is what exactly?
n/a Ieuan1996 2017-04-29
There's loads of theories in regards to holocaust skepticism, revisionism and denial, but from my own research I agree with you, this explanation seems the most likely. 2nd Baron Lionel Walter Rothschild was a significant influence in the creation of Israel through his connections in British government. He's a good start into research on the topic. I surely don't doubt there were labour camps in Germany, but I do believe we've been lied in regards to the explanation of the deaths and the numbers, all so the Israel agenda could be pushed with actual momentum behind it - propaganda-fuelled public shock.
n/a EnoughNoLibsSpam 2017-04-29
"atrocity propaganda"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nayirah_(testimony)
n/a EnoughNoLibsSpam 2017-04-29
"6 million jews" were reported as being persecuted in many different contexts, times and places, long before the rise of Nazi's in Germany
"6 million jews" was apparently a very old meme that is significant in jewish culture/religion. some say that zionists believe that israel can't be born again as a nation until 6 million jews have been persecuted, which is why they had to have the holohoax just before the founding of the modern state of israel
n/a ring-ring-ring 2017-04-29
It's not a hoax, it's a myth. There's a difference. Most people honestly believe the myth to be real. They don't think they are fooling anybody, they think they are presenting the truth when they regurgitate the Holocaust mythology, which was developed in the decades following WW2.
n/a EnoughNoLibsSpam 2017-04-29
lets define terms:
myth (mĭth)►
n. A traditional, typically ancient story dealing with supernatural beings, ancestors, or heroes that serves as a fundamental type in the worldview of a people, as by explaining aspects of the natural world or delineating the psychology, customs, or ideals of society: the myth of Eros and Psyche; a creation myth.
n. Such stories considered as a group: the realm of myth.
n. A popular belief or story that has become associated with a person, institution, or occurrence, especially one considered to illustrate a cultural ideal: a star whose fame turned her into a myth; the pioneer myth of suburbia.
hoax (hōks)►
n. An act intended to deceive or trick.
n. Something that has been established or accepted by fraudulent means.
v. To deceive or cheat by using a hoax.
i would say by these definitions that that holocaust was a hoax that became a myth
n/a unruly_mattress 2017-04-29
Well, given that three links on a public internet forum contain enough information to implicate the Mossad in 9/11 in a convincing manner, and that Eglin and Langley regularly scour through public internet forums for their own reasons, it seems very likely that whatever information you have, America has too.
n/a jayomu 2017-04-29
They have more information than us. They won't destory their own plan.
n/a unruly_mattress 2017-04-29
Yes.
n/a usernamenn 2017-04-29
The 'friendship' is real. It's just not between israehell and the US citizens.
n/a William_Harzia 2017-04-29
Israel, Saudi Arabia, and the US comprise a triumvirate allied in the effort to destabilize the regimes of their Middle East enemies. Personally I think there's ample evidence to suggest that 9/11 was a joint effort. Zionists provided expertise on the ground, radical deep state neo-cons facilitated the operation, and the House of Saud provided the terrorists and money.
n/a rockpaperdresses 2017-04-29
SO the 19 hijackers weren't made up but from Saudi?
n/a Sister_Lauren 2017-04-29
The 'terrorists' were patsies. The planes that hit the WTC buildings were drones.
n/a William_Harzia 2017-04-29
Oh yeah, I agree. But they still needed some Muslims for the legend building. No idea if they were in on it, or duped into thinking they were really carrying out the attack.
n/a EnoughNoLibsSpam 2017-04-29
Bin Laden says he wasn't behind attacks
http://edition.cnn.com/2001/US/09/16/inv.binladen.denial/index.html
n/a William_Harzia 2017-04-29
not sure what your point is.
n/a Sister_Lauren 2017-04-29
I call it blackmail.
It is obvious to me that our government and institutions have been being blackmailed into committing war crimes, fraud and mass murder by the Israelis ever since 9/11. I'm really glad more people are finally recognizing it, it has been hellish to be accused as an 'anti-Semite' for simply telling the truth about these events.
n/a EnoughNoLibsSpam 2017-04-29
pizzagate = blackmail politicians by any means necessary
n/a ring-ring-ring 2017-04-29
Remember USS Liberty? A deliberate attack on a US military ship by Israel, with the intention of sinking the ship? Lyndon Johnson prevented any defense of the ship, did not retaliate, and the US is still giving billions a year to Israel. So why should it be any different if we find out that Israel did 9-11? The billions would still flow to Israel, because Jews run the US.
n/a rockpaperdresses 2017-04-29
Yes I know abou the liberty :(
n/a slamdotswf 2017-04-29
And why would they deliberately attack a US boat during a war with Egypt, Jordan, and Syria?
n/a EnoughNoLibsSpam 2017-04-29
the ole "pearl harbor" routine?
n/a slamdotswf 2017-04-29
A surprise attack to demoralize us which instead called us to action which eventually lead to the nuclear bombing of two populous cities?
n/a EnoughNoLibsSpam 2017-04-29
a false flag to instigate the US into entering WW2
n/a slamdotswf 2017-04-29
WHAT
n/a EnoughNoLibsSpam 2017-04-29
pearl harbor was a false flag
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NuaKHhNBTNA
n/a slamdotswf 2017-04-29
never go full retard
n/a EnoughNoLibsSpam 2017-04-29
never let the facts get in the way of your opinions, ok?
https://np.reddit.com/search?q=PNAC+pearl+harbor
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=PNAC+new+pearl+harbor
n/a slamdotswf 2017-04-29
lol
n/a downisupp 2017-04-29
probably had something to do whit it.. but not the main architect of it
n/a rockpaperdresses 2017-04-29
Who was the main architect?
n/a AntiHasbaraUnit 2017-04-29
who benefitted the most from the incident?
n/a rockpaperdresses 2017-04-29
Israel/Saudi Arabia? I was just wondering why he said they weren't the main architechts.
n/a downisupp 2017-04-29
who was the main power behind the creation of Saudi and Israel?:)
n/a downisupp 2017-04-29
who did george washington fight against?:)
n/a downisupp 2017-04-29
what superpower was forgotten after ww1?:)
n/a atheists4jesus 2017-04-29
The British
n/a downisupp 2017-04-29
bingo!
n/a EnoughNoLibsSpam 2017-04-29
i had always assumed that the British were behind the Opium Wars, but it turns out it was the Rothschild's, the same group that is creating the opium epidemic in USA today
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opium_Wars
n/a rockpaperdresses 2017-04-29
No idea. Who?
n/a AntiHasbaraUnit 2017-04-29
there is a great interest by a select group in keeping this info, this very discussion, an almost forbidden subject.
n/a rockpaperdresses 2017-04-29
Why?
n/a AntiHasbaraUnit 2017-04-29
because if the people actually knew what was the real issue of 9/11 and the resultant war on terror, it would make kristallnacht look like a weekend at Disney Orlando.
n/a rockpaperdresses 2017-04-29
English is not my first language so I didn't get this comment. Explain...
n/a AntiHasbaraUnit 2017-04-29
If the American Public figures out that Israel was actually behind 9/11, there would be a fury in this Nation to remove the cancer like no other in history. In the future there would be a jew holiday to remember the slaughter when TheAmericanPublic realized its "only friend in the middle east" was its greatest enemy.
n/a rockpaperdresses 2017-04-29
Gotcha. I mean I hope Americans would do something if they found out. An American friend of mine seems to think that even if it became known, Americans wouldn't do anything :(.
Do you think the truth will ever come out about this? Do you talk about it irl? I would like to wake people around me up, but I have no idea how to go about it..
n/a AntiHasbaraUnit 2017-04-29
if it became widely known, the jews in the USA would start using that right of return.
n/a rockpaperdresses 2017-04-29
Didn't answer my questions but thats alright lol..
n/a AntiHasbaraUnit 2017-04-29
have you heard of a group called AIPAC? American Israel Public Affairs Commitee. If Americans became widely aware of Israeli and American Jew involvement along with non jew American Zionists, there would be massive bloodshed. I dont know if it will ever become widely known, but more people know every day.
n/a rockpaperdresses 2017-04-29
Yes I know about AIPAC....
n/a AntiHasbaraUnit 2017-04-29
thats the greatest impediment to the American People finding out, that and the constant accusations of hate speech.
n/a ring-ring-ring 2017-04-29
I think you're wrong. What happened after Israel attacked and tried to sink USS Liberty tells me that the revelation that Mossad planned and executed the 9-11 attacks would not affect the stream of money flowing from Washington to Israel. Jews control the United States. They control the politicians and the media.
n/a downisupp 2017-04-29
yeepp..we live in dangerous times boy.
n/a perfect_pickles 2017-04-29
not Saudi, they are not that stupid.
they finance the Taliban, ISIS and similar shite, thats their limit to how stupid they want to go.
the 28 pages shows Saudi financing assorted naughty stuff here in the USA, but it does not show them doing 9/11. no smoking gun as far as I can see.
inside job with help from fanatics from abroad.
n/a EnoughNoLibsSpam 2017-04-29
WeAreCHANGE confront Joe Biden about Pakistan ISI meeting on 9/11
https://youtu.be/mLqtwtZWNas?t=17s
n/a Master-Chief-Kief 2017-04-29
Israel.
n/a AntiHasbaraUnit 2017-04-29
yes.
n/a Formaggio_svizzero 2017-04-29
Obviously Kyle Brofslovski
n/a rockpaperdresses 2017-04-29
I don't get this comment
n/a DrBadTouch22 2017-04-29
Because he's Jewish I presume
n/a axolotl_peyotl 2017-04-29
Whoever had the technology to dustify those buildings.
There were three levels at play during this event:
Level 1: "Muslim patsies" and other low-level organizers
Level 2: US/Israeli/Saudi intelligence agencies with corrupt members of the US gov
Level 3: ? - The faction responsible for the financial high crimes of 9/11, for breaking the codes of practically every US government agency, and finally deploying exotic high technology as a display for everyone who's paying attention.
It's very likely that most operators in the Level 1 and 2 categories had no clue that a Level 3 was going to show their hand. In fact, I think the level 2 players (Cheney, etc) had a moment of panic when those towers disappeared and they realized they were no longer in control.
9/11 was much bigger than the work of one country. It was an occult mega ritual perpetrated by what appears to be a breakaway civilization.
n/a joseph177 2017-04-29
Dustify? You still on the Judy Wood stuff?
n/a axolotl_peyotl 2017-04-29
No, I'm on to the truth.
This comment is a summary of a recent book by Joseph Farrell.
n/a perfect_pickles 2017-04-29
its some variation on backpack neutron !! bombs,
something erupted up inside each of the two towers, smoke or dust shoots up above the roofline as each tower collapse, then theres the pyroclastic cloud that covers a square mile or two.
Thermate to weaken the connections and destroy the exterior, the multiple bigger bombs to destroy the core.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pyroclastic_flow#/media/File:Pyroclastic_flows_at_Mayon_Volcano.jpg
n/a dks42 2017-04-29
So it's not a pyroclastic cloud. You see people walking through it and out of it. The buildings weren't "dustified" but the concrete floors that fell onto each other were largely smashed to dust. Also, a neutron bomb is a type of fusion bomb, so we would expect fission and fusion byproducts detected in the invironment. Got any on those?
n/a rockpaperdresses 2017-04-29
Why would Saudi Arabia get involved? What would they get out of it?
n/a axolotl_peyotl 2017-04-29
9/11 as occult ritual
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n/a leftistpatriot 2017-04-29
The author of that book, S.K. Bain, worked for PNAC Founder William Kristol.
There certainly were occult ritual elements surrounding 9/11. But citing that book as your primary source is being awfully careless about the threat of disinformation, being two degrees from PNAC's founder.
n/a axolotl_peyotl 2017-04-29
He's quite open about that connection though and it's a fairly central theme of his first book...it's how he was exposed to these circles apparently.
n/a KickedinTheDick 2017-04-29
Yeah. If you do your research it wont surprise you
Listen to Mystery Babylon if you seek more information on the beginnings and forms of this occultism
n/a StrizzMatik 2017-04-29
Mass Luciferian sacrifice. They do these to confer power to their agendas and deeds.
n/a Geralt23 2017-04-29
Who are the people who rule Saudi Arabia? Who are the Saudis?
n/a rockpaperdresses 2017-04-29
I don't know. Thats why I'm asking questions.
n/a StrizzMatik 2017-04-29
Benjamin Netanyahu and the Likud Party
n/a The_Veracity_Sector 2017-04-29
And this:
https://youtu.be/3aKj6uJ5Mt4
n/a AntiHasbaraUnit 2017-04-29
you might find this very interesting https://youtu.be/LbkQddEDPs0
n/a AntiHasbaraUnit 2017-04-29
heres a bit more curious info https://youtu.be/2XHm56O2NTI
along with
https://youtu.be/EGEpRivGeX4
n/a blacknite76 2017-04-29
UPPED if u up then comment thanks to check bot/mod editing
n/a TryhardPantiesON 2017-04-29
Mossad and CIA did 9/11. Believe it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrTjPGy2k_U
n/a Tundramountain 2017-04-29
In regards to the CIA - Dr Steve Pieczenik says the CIA was high-jacked by Israeli-firsters before 9/11 and that Bush was just a dumb leader who didn't have the slightest clue what was going on.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zs46g7YcrFM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zs46g7YcrFM
n/a TexasNova 2017-04-29
I believe that Bush Sr absolutely knew beforehand but I always wondered if "they" didn't technically tell Bush Jr so he could have plausible deniability since he would have to be so public afterwards.
n/a cucklestien 2017-04-29
Bush's reaction on 9/11 says this: he was informed that SOMETHING was going to happen that day and he needed to be out of town literally reading to children
But when he found out he was probobly scared because he knew he could get in trouble for the job because he had foreknowledge.
n/a WooTs_67 2017-04-29
What I think was going through Bush's head when they told him.
"Holy fuck they actually did it"
n/a barberererer 2017-04-29
so the memes were right and it is the jews
n/a RedditIsSoCucked 2017-04-29
If by memes, you mean the [manifesto where Israel's suppporters called for the need gor a Peal Harbor like attack on the US to justify destroying Arab states.], then yes. (http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/pdf/RebuildingAmericasDefenses.pdf)
n/a superfake123 2017-04-29
wtf is that pdf? tldr plz?
n/a evilwhiteman0107 2017-04-29
Look up Project for a New American Century on google -- that will tell you all you need to know.
n/a Iamamansass 2017-04-29
Which is absolute bullshit. 1. His daddy 2. He isn't dumb 3. Everyone in the intelligence community knew about Osama and plans with planes.
n/a pencilvester_C137 2017-04-29
Osama, you say?
n/a Iamamansass 2017-04-29
yes that's what the intelligence communities say...
n/a TeslasMuse 2017-04-29
Are those the same guys who said Russia hacked the election?
n/a Iamamansass 2017-04-29
No, the actual reports that came out stating this as so? I am confused as what is everybody's problem is. I never said it was truth. Just that yes, reports have stated from well before 9/11 that Osama was planning an attack on us soil. that's the story is it not?
n/a TeslasMuse 2017-04-29
Yes, it's great fiction
n/a Iamamansass 2017-04-29
Okay, great. Still doesn't change one thing I typed.
n/a EnoughNoLibsSpam 2017-04-29
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bin_Ladin_Determined_To_Strike_in_US
what is perhaps most curious about this particular PDB is that GWB specifically requested that it be created for him. this wasn't just an un-sollicited needle-in-a-haystack clue given to a clueless puppet who wasn't paying attention in meetings.
n/a blacknite76 2017-04-29
n/a JUSTIN_HERGINA 2017-04-29
Is that why the CIA/FBI etc ignored FBI agents warning that suspicious Arabs were training at flying schools in Florida?
n/a MrMongrelCares 2017-04-29
hijacked
n/a cucklestien 2017-04-29
can I throw DoD (at least private contractors) in as well?
They were the ones able to switch out airplanes.
n/a leftistpatriot 2017-04-29
Funny how this subreddit keeps whitewashing the FBI role:
http://www.historycommons.org/entity.jsp?entity=vulgar_betrayal
Agents were blocked at the highest levels. Was Louis Freeh Mossad or CIA? Or is there an invisible network within all intelligence agencies across all countries, loyal to no single country?
n/a EnoughNoLibsSpam 2017-04-29
it would be hard to imagine how the Pentagon would have gone along with the FBI in being attacked on 9/11, unless the Pentagon really wanted to go along with it.
n/a anti_h3ro 2017-04-29
Is It wrong of me to read your comment in the voice of Naruto?
n/a mrevil_tx 2017-04-29
This...
It's difficult to accept at first, but once you see the bigger picture and the influence and power Isreal has on the US, you will find that this is most likely the truth.
n/a grandmacaesar 2017-04-29
The b thing, five dancing israelis, dominick suter, urban moving systems. September 11 was good for israel.
n/a rockpaperdresses 2017-04-29
The b thing?
n/a grandmacaesar 2017-04-29
The b thing.
n/a LyingBloodyLiar 2017-04-29
What does this prove? That it is easy to get thru security?
n/a perfect_pickles 2017-04-29
that a team had access to the inner workings of at least one tower.
n/a Sister_Lauren 2017-04-29
There are some pictures of them surrounded with boxes full of blasting caps. Since the buildings were destroyed in controlled demolitions, those pictures of boxes of blasting caps could be considered to be evidence. I would think it was if I was the investigator.
n/a rockpaperdresses 2017-04-29
There hasn't been an investigation into this :(
n/a twsmith 2017-04-29
No, there are photos of them surrounded by boxes labeled with the part number of electrical fuse holders.
This was also a year and a half before 9/11.
n/a Aintnojusticejustus 2017-04-29
Good for the zionists. I doubt the working class of isreal benefited from it. Zionism is not Judaism, if it was they wouldn't be two different words.
n/a outtanutmeds 2017-04-29
I will agree with you. There are some Jews who are not Zionists. But, but by far the majority of us are. Zionism comes in different flavors. We all don't agree on the same policies. We are very diverse.
n/a TheFapp3ning 2017-04-29
I find it hilarious you can't go 2 comments without mentioning the claim that you're Jewish.
n/a outtanutmeds 2017-04-29
You're laughing, eh? Well I'm not. This shit is serious.
n/a TheFapp3ning 2017-04-29
Lol, I really hope nobody takes you seriously.
n/a youusedthewrongword 2017-04-29
What brings you to the sub? What conspiracy theories interest you?
n/a TheFapp3ning 2017-04-29
All of them.
n/a youusedthewrongword 2017-04-29
Which conspiracy theory or theories do you think are true?
n/a TheFapp3ning 2017-04-29
Very few of them.
n/a youusedthewrongword 2017-04-29
Which ones do you think are true
n/a TheFapp3ning 2017-04-29
It's really none of your business nor is it relevant.
n/a youusedthewrongword 2017-04-29
We are in a conspiracy sub, talking about an enormously popular conspiracy theory. I'm interested to hear your thoughts on the conspiracy theories you believe are true.
To me it looks like you come to this sub to call people regard and Nazis. I don't see you engaging in any actual discussion. You willing to discuss conspiracy theories or do you have another agenda?
n/a TheFapp3ning 2017-04-29
And I have no interest in conversing with you in particular. This thread isn't about me.
n/a youusedthewrongword 2017-04-29
Thanks for the insight into your MO
n/a TheFapp3ning 2017-04-29
Thanks for showing your true intentions, I'll probably forget you in 2 minutes. But I'm glad I could make such a meaningful impact in your life.
n/a youusedthewrongword 2017-04-29
Lol, you could have easily "proved me wrong", but you went the opposite direction. Wonder why?
n/a TheFapp3ning 2017-04-29
Because nothing in this world would make you think I wasn't a government shill, and that was obvious from your first post. I wonder why?
n/a youusedthewrongword 2017-04-29
Some genuine knowledge, interest or enthusiasm towards conspiracy theories would have convinced me.
At least you've made it this far without calling me a nazi or a retard. Thats good for you.
n/a TheFapp3ning 2017-04-29
Nothing would have convinced you or your kind.
n/a youusedthewrongword 2017-04-29
Listen to yourself. "Your kind"? I'm part of a "kind", now, that is different from you? What would that be? A "conspiracy theorist" or maybe "normal user"? Tell me about my kind.
What do you think should be done with this "kind" you're talking about?
n/a thisismytrollacct99 2017-04-29
Only because those Jews had the propoganda straight to the dome like Americans have
n/a Aintnojusticejustus 2017-04-29
Temple of Herod v. Temple of Soloman
n/a outtanutmeds 2017-04-29
Rosanne Barr v. Sarah Silverman
n/a Aintnojusticejustus 2017-04-29
Lol yes much better way to sum it up
n/a outtanutmeds 2017-04-29
: D
n/a Italics_RS 2017-04-29
Did tou have a stroke when you started that second paragraph?
n/a Aintnojusticejustus 2017-04-29
Yes.
n/a kurmitthefrug 2017-04-29
ebin
n/a Juan__Lennon 2017-04-29
Don't forget the "Geletin" art group inside the WTC. They wrote a book.
https://youtu.be/CxU_xAakxRQ
n/a catlover16 2017-04-29
Yep.
n/a Non-equilibrium 2017-04-29
Yea. through Hamas
n/a facereplacer3 2017-04-29
Yes.
n/a bhaga 2017-04-29
Not much more to add. Everything else is gravy.
n/a illset 2017-04-29
Isn't Homeland security massad as well?
n/a Nutricidal 2017-04-29
They certainly were under Chertoff. Remember skeletor? That FEMA talk wasn't just talk. If we look who's running it now, I would say no. Definitely not.
n/a rockpaperdresses 2017-04-29
He looks demonic.
n/a TeslasMuse 2017-04-29
Yikes, he looks like he lives off the blood of the innocents
n/a Bacore 2017-04-29
Who benefits by Americans going to war against the Muslims?
n/a rockpaperdresses 2017-04-29
But I'm seeing Saudi Arabia named too.. Saudi is a muslim country. What would they get out of this?
n/a Middleman79 2017-04-29
They aren't being bombed, all the countries around them are (apart from Israel).
n/a rockpaperdresses 2017-04-29
That is true. I'm just perplexed as to why a Muslim country would agree to this when all the blame would be put on muslims. What did they get out of this?
n/a Middleman79 2017-04-29
Money. They are desert idiots.
n/a ModernDayTJ 2017-04-29
House of Saud are secretly Arab Zionists (CryptoZionists) and have been since the late 1700s.
n/a Bacore 2017-04-29
The Saudi and Israel are allies. Google the plan for a greater Israel
n/a EnoughNoLibsSpam 2017-04-29
http://truedemocracy.net/hj33/08.html
The Saudi Royal Family Are Crypto-Jews
n/a Bacore 2017-04-29
I won't argue.
n/a William_Harzia 2017-04-29
Military Industrial Complex, obviously.
n/a Bacore 2017-04-29
They assisted, no doubt. SEE NORAD for more details. The very idea that we employ a national border protection defense with these guys and on the very day that we need them, somebody (Cheney) had them flying a over the country. Coincidence? I think not.
n/a IncontinenceAIDS 2017-04-29
I'm starting to think United did 9/11.
n/a outtanutmeds 2017-04-29
Where is hasbara when you need them?
n/a AntiHasbaraUnit 2017-04-29
Ive set up the barricades.
n/a outtanutmeds 2017-04-29
They now use parachutes. Barricades are useless.
n/a AntiHasbaraUnit 2017-04-29
Ive handed out shotguns to the appropriate personel.
n/a EnoughNoLibsSpam 2017-04-29
25 rules for effective communication
[PDF]
http://australiansforpalestine.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/tip_report.pdf
n/a StrizzMatik 2017-04-29
Watch some of Christopher Bollyn's speeches. In short, yep.
n/a Aintnojusticejustus 2017-04-29
Wasnt like 1 agency man. Collusion between units of members of the globalist cabal.
n/a IanPhlegming 2017-04-29
It's not Israel alone. It was a US+Israel+Saudi operation.
n/a rockpaperdresses 2017-04-29
Why would Saudi get involved?
n/a TheBigBadDuke 2017-04-29
Because they want to be the dominant Muslim nation in the region.
n/a IanPhlegming 2017-04-29
They want to see their competitors in the oil market like Iran and Iraq out of the picture. They want chaos in the rest of the Middle East so it's easier to control things at home.
n/a rockpaperdresses 2017-04-29
Was the Middle east always a chaotic place? I don't know much about the region. I hear people say it was a nice place before Israel.. and that America didn't have any enemies there before we became "friends" with Israel.
n/a IanPhlegming 2017-04-29
Wellllll.....there's some truth to that, but even if you go back to Laurence of Arabia days, the West has been screwing around with their geography, border and politics.
Middle East has always been pretty chaotic. Israel has no doubt made it worse. But the Saudis are a big part of the problem and a big part of the conspiracy, no doubt.
n/a outtanutmeds 2017-04-29
The Arabs were tribal; always warring with one another. Lawrence of Arabia united the tribes to fight the Turks so that Palestine would be free of the Ottoman Empire.
n/a IanPhlegming 2017-04-29
That's one way of looking at it.
n/a outtanutmeds 2017-04-29
Damn good movie.
n/a Sister_Lauren 2017-04-29
Because they are close family friends with the Bush family and were willing to helpout. They didn't do much, the 'hijackers' were all patsies. The planes that hit the WTC buildings were computer controlled drones. No one was needed in the cockpit.
n/a Falvi 2017-04-29
Did you skip your therapy treatment this week?
n/a flyersarekillingme 2017-04-29
Whered you get this meaningless insult, The toilet store?
n/a EnoughNoLibsSpam 2017-04-29
PolyLaws on understanding idiots:
Those who have not benefitted from therapy, are always the first to recommend it to others
n/a Not_A_Fagget 2017-04-29
Just curious, how would you explain the calls of the people on board to their families? And what happened to the planes that have been documented to have left the airports?
n/a William_Harzia 2017-04-29
How would you explain them?? Most of the calls were at altitudes and airspeeds that make cell phone calls impossible to this day. IMO the calls are not only one of the many smoking guns of 9/11, but also proof positive that the original planes were switched out with drones (presumably), and that the passengers were offloaded at some secure location. There a huge body of research that has been done on these calls--you should grab yourself a drink and google the crap out of it.
Here's a teaser for you: Barbara Olson, a well-know conservative TV commentator, supposedly made two calls to her husband, Theodore Olson, Solicitor General of the US, from American Airlines Flight 77 some time before it crashed into the Pentagon.
According to Theodore, during the calls she said that everyone had been herded to the back of the plane by four or five middle eastern men armed "with knives and cardboard cutters." He related this information to CNN via telephone late in the afternoon on 9/11, and is the sole source of the "boxcutter" detail of the whole story. Everyone knows the hijackers were armed with boxcutters, right? Well Barbara's husband is the only reason why we all know this.
Problem is she couldn't have made these calls. The 757 she was flying in was not, according to American Airlines, equipped with seat back phones, and the plane was too high and flying too fast for her to have used her cell phone at the time she supposedly contacted her husband.
So what are we supposed to believe? That the Solicitor General of the US just spontaneously made this story up to get his voice on the news? On the afternoon of his wife's sudden, unexpected death? That's crazy talk.
The way most researchers see it is that either Barbara made these calls after AA 77 was grounded, and Theodore is telling the truth, or, alternatively, Theodore was fed this story by the perpetrators and paid or coerced into disseminating it as such to news organizations.
As an aside, for your consideration, Theodore Olson was one the lawyers who represented Bush and Cheney in court during the contested presidential election of 2000.
n/a EnoughNoLibsSpam 2017-04-29
that would very possibly be a catastrophic mistake
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Center_of_gravity_of_an_aircraft
n/a William_Harzia 2017-04-29
That was the story from both 93 and 77.
n/a EnoughNoLibsSpam 2017-04-29
it may have been catastrophic for both planes, if it was true.
n/a outtanutmeds 2017-04-29
Trump doesn't seem to mind.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHmINZRwiZU
n/a Tundramountain 2017-04-29
Christopher Bollyn on who were the main architects of 9/11.
Watch to find out - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ydPpQoMK7c
n/a 20pastfour 2017-04-29
oy vey you anti-semite! remember the 6 million! jokes aside, whatever profites them, they will do, no morality, no empathy, only greed.
n/a rockpaperdresses 2017-04-29
This has nothing to do with Jews as a whole.
n/a 20pastfour 2017-04-29
where did I say that?
n/a TheFapp3ning 2017-04-29
Who's "them?"
n/a Clivepwnens 2017-04-29
Dog sledders obviously. When ever someone mentions the nefarious "they" just remember it's dog sledders pulling the reins.
n/a 20pastfour 2017-04-29
Shalom goy... I mean fellow white man. What do you mean, them who?
n/a TheFapp3ning 2017-04-29
So you do mean Jews? Just making sure.
n/a 20pastfour 2017-04-29
Jews, Cryptojews, Zionists, Ashkenazi Jews, I don't know what the hell they are, but I sure recognize one when I see one most of the time. INB4 I'm on a list.
n/a TheFapp3ning 2017-04-29
I doubt you're on anybodies list mate.
n/a 20pastfour 2017-04-29
ofc not, but you never know when these faggots strike, either way, I don't care, I don't share personal info on my account.
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n/a TheFapp3ning 2017-04-29
I mean, you're an admitted racist. You admit to it fucking two comments up. You're still not on anybody's list.
n/a usernamenn 2017-04-29
Is jewish a race now? Can't a goy just throw out some conspiracys without being labeled anti-semetic? Why so sensitive, it's like you're waiting for people to say this stuff. Almost like there's something to hide.
/He said, imagining how this conversation would play out if discussed in a court of law.
n/a 20pastfour 2017-04-29
Can you explain to me in detail what's racist about what I said? I don't get it, I'm serious.
n/a 20pastfour 2017-04-29
I see you can't, typical.
n/a gingakei 2017-04-29
Yes and yes
n/a MSparta 2017-04-29
Hard to say, but there is at least some fuckery with 9/11 and covering up/planned terror actions. If the US government and military command are involved, it isn't the first time terror actions against americans has been considered, but that was rejected by JFK
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Northwoods
n/a EnoughNoLibsSpam 2017-04-29
be skeptical of operation northwoods
http://www.veteransnewsnow.com/2014/08/31/the-911-triple-cross/
n/a ring-ring-ring 2017-04-29
Mossad knew about it in advance. We can be sure about this, thanks to the Dancing Israelis. Either they didn't tell Washington, or the told and Washington ignored the warning. It seems probable that they had an agent, or agent, among the terrorists planning the operation. Were those agents actually masterminding the attack? Maybe. It seems like a complex operation for a dozen stupid Arabs, but it would not be beyond the technical expertise of Mossad.
n/a EnoughNoLibsSpam 2017-04-29
i like the part where the muslim extremists were able to get the Pentagon to stand down and let itself get hit by an airplane
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDfdOwt2v3Y
n/a S5S5S55S 2017-04-29
Who was responsible for demoing the towers tho?
n/a EnoughNoLibsSpam 2017-04-29
since we know that the WTC was brought down in a controlled demolition, we can just re-wind the tape from the collapse and see how we got to 9/11
so, on 9/11 towers collapse in a controlled demolition
therefore, prior to 9/11 the towers were prepared for demolition
therefore, prior to demolition preparation, a decision had to be made about how to demolish the towers
therefore, prior to a decision being made on how to demolish the towers, a decision had to be made to demolish the towers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5DMjnbmhXo
therefore, prior to a decision being made to demolish the towers, the building owners would probably weigh the pros and cons of demolishing the towers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=prwvj-npt5s
this seemingly un-related video of a top-down progressive collapse controlled demolition demonstrates 2 very significant facts
1) you don't actually need to prepare the entire building, because the top will crush the bottom, contrary to what you may believe
2) because 1) is true, top-down progressive collapse is a tried-and-true method of controlled demolition, and would probably be the method of choice for the demolition of the towers, considering the alternatives are much more risky
n/a astralrocker2001 2017-04-29
The Israeli Mossad Did 911. 23 Facts: http://rediscover911.com/international-zionism-did-911-23-facts/
n/a ZombieRightsActivist 2017-04-29
Facts?? Really? That looks like some faked evidence to me.
n/a no1113 2017-04-29
Yes - with the help of American and Saudi figures.
n/a 4Gracchus 2017-04-29
Yup. They definitely had a key, prominent hand in it. We have names and documents to back it up.
n/a wile_e_chicken 2017-04-29
Yes and yes. Not only that, it was themonuclear. (/r/nuclear911) Israel nuked NYC. Perhaps we should be grateful that the detonation was subterranean, not atmospheric, limiting the death toll to a few thousand cancer patients. But it lead to over a million dead Arabs, so I suppose the death toll was merely transferred geographically.
n/a EnoughNoLibsSpam 2017-04-29
the 9/11 WTC pot hole is another smoking gun
https://www.google.com/search?site=&tbm=isch&source=hp&biw=1680&bih=1111&q=9%2F11+wtc+pot+hole&oq=9%2F11+&gs_l=img
n/a wile_e_chicken 2017-04-29
For sure. Our favorite propaganda outlet, the NYTimes, even ran a story trying to pass them off as "glacial potholes" -- as if you could build a 450,000,000 kg building on fill dirt!
n/a wile_e_chicken 2017-04-29
Archived: http://archive.is/Gb7Ak
n/a DrDuplicitous 2017-04-29
Yes, of course Mossad did 9/11.
n/a WooTs_67 2017-04-29
Shut it down!
n/a dumbthings 2017-04-29
Yes that is most likley the case. They also created ISIS with the US to create a new Area 51 like base to work on new crashed UFOs found in isreal.
n/a kayjaylayray 2017-04-29
That was always my theory from the beginning. Ever since I read about the video-taping israelis and the security company at the WTC and the students. I believe they were heavily involved and I also believe Saudi Arabia was involved since it was they who were evacuated and they who supplied the fake pilots. It was their charities and finances that backed the terrorist cell in the US.
Saudi Arabia and Israel had big motivations for wanting the middle-East broken up and they are both oil interested.
n/a notthat0ne 2017-04-29
of course...
n/a Letstalkcheetos 2017-04-29
There are a few options.
Conspiracy theory: The Republican Party Administration organised 9/11
The official line: The Republican Party administration was so incompetent that they allowed one of the biggest terrorism events to occur on their watch.
Without a question what happened: The Republican party, Racists, Nazis, the Right Wing, Conservatives and alt-right all profited from the fear of islamic terrorism and racism ever since that event. Straight to the bank.
n/a mindhawk 2017-04-29
Mossad wired the buildings and made sure airport security was mishandled
they know who is on which side by who asked for video footage of the WTC and airports. No one who knows whats up would dare ask for it, anyone who does is on a list that chertoff would have edged out of the agencies entirely.
oh, chertoff is mossad also. All those duel nationals are.
We live in a puppet country, much like airstrip one was part of oceania, the united states has been taken over from the top by israelis.
you are either working against this or you're a traitor
n/a KaleMunoz 2017-04-29
No.
n/a benedictFocker 2017-04-29
One way to think of this, which might be literally true, but at least serves as a good thought experiment, is the following:
There's no illuminati per se. Instead, the government as establishment created this CIA apparatus for supposedly good reasons but ignored the critics who worried about what it would lead to. Meanwhile, folks who were trying to help Israel managed to weasel into that apparatus and 9/11 happened.
It's not as if there's some master plan just stacks of abuses overlappingang layers of criminality.
Our freedom gives us wealth and power and that makes us an effective empire which can afford it. But the empire stuff is still bad.
If we ever fully embraced totalitarianism, our power would collapse. But we could still leverage our wealth into like first strike nukes. The USSR took 60 years to collapse.
n/a HippoLips 2017-04-29
Basically the whole group of wars that WE of the United States are fighting and paying for, are not because these people are our enemies, it's because they are Israel's enemies. All of the "Arab spring" revolts were created to destabilize any one that Israel doesn't like. Also the Syria gas bombing is fake so that we would have a reason to attack Assad for Israel's benefit
n/a The_Veracity_Sector 2017-04-29
Bingo. Keep seeking the truth you will find much much more about "our friends".
I'll just leave this here:
https://youtu.be/lEDPOPr7qiY
n/a orionquest2016 2017-04-29
Check out this Fox News report from back then
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LbkQddEDPs0
n/a 13lacula 2017-04-29
Yep. And the holocaust was a hoax too.
n/a unruly_mattress 2017-04-29
Well, given that three links on a public internet forum contain enough information to implicate the Mossad in 9/11 in a convincing manner, and that Eglin and Langley regularly scour through public internet forums for their own reasons, it seems very likely that whatever information you have, America has too.
n/a usernamenn 2017-04-29
The 'friendship' is real. It's just not between israehell and the US citizens.
n/a rockpaperdresses 2017-04-29
But I'm seeing Saudi Arabia named too.. Saudi is a muslim country. What would they get out of this?
n/a William_Harzia 2017-04-29
Israel, Saudi Arabia, and the US comprise a triumvirate allied in the effort to destabilize the regimes of their Middle East enemies. Personally I think there's ample evidence to suggest that 9/11 was a joint effort. Zionists provided expertise on the ground, radical deep state neo-cons facilitated the operation, and the House of Saud provided the terrorists and money.
n/a Sister_Lauren 2017-04-29
I call it blackmail.
It is obvious to me that our government and institutions have been being blackmailed into committing war crimes, fraud and mass murder by the Israelis ever since 9/11. I'm really glad more people are finally recognizing it, it has been hellish to be accused as an 'anti-Semite' for simply telling the truth about these events.
n/a outtanutmeds 2017-04-29
The Arabs were tribal; always warring with one another. Lawrence of Arabia united the tribes to fight the Turks so that Palestine would be free of the Ottoman Empire.
n/a TexasNova 2017-04-29
I believe that Bush Sr absolutely knew beforehand but I always wondered if "they" didn't technically tell Bush Jr so he could have plausible deniability since he would have to be so public afterwards.
n/a cucklestien 2017-04-29
Bush's reaction on 9/11 says this: he was informed that SOMETHING was going to happen that day and he needed to be out of town literally reading to children
But when he found out he was probobly scared because he knew he could get in trouble for the job because he had foreknowledge.
n/a ring-ring-ring 2017-04-29
Remember USS Liberty? A deliberate attack on a US military ship by Israel, with the intention of sinking the ship? Lyndon Johnson prevented any defense of the ship, did not retaliate, and the US is still giving billions a year to Israel. So why should it be any different if we find out that Israel did 9-11? The billions would still flow to Israel, because Jews run the US.
n/a barberererer 2017-04-29
so the memes were right and it is the jews
n/a Iamamansass 2017-04-29
Which is absolute bullshit. 1. His daddy 2. He isn't dumb 3. Everyone in the intelligence community knew about Osama and plans with planes.
n/a TheFapp3ning 2017-04-29
It's really none of your business nor is it relevant.
n/a MrMongrelCares 2017-04-29
hijacked
n/a William_Harzia 2017-04-29
Military Industrial Complex, obviously.
n/a EnoughNoLibsSpam 2017-04-29
lets define terms:
myth (mĭth)►
n. A traditional, typically ancient story dealing with supernatural beings, ancestors, or heroes that serves as a fundamental type in the worldview of a people, as by explaining aspects of the natural world or delineating the psychology, customs, or ideals of society: the myth of Eros and Psyche; a creation myth.
n. Such stories considered as a group: the realm of myth.
n. A popular belief or story that has become associated with a person, institution, or occurrence, especially one considered to illustrate a cultural ideal: a star whose fame turned her into a myth; the pioneer myth of suburbia.
hoax (hōks)►
n. An act intended to deceive or trick.
n. Something that has been established or accepted by fraudulent means.
v. To deceive or cheat by using a hoax.
i would say by these definitions that that holocaust was a hoax that became a myth
n/a Bacore 2017-04-29
I won't argue.
n/a slamdotswf 2017-04-29
WHAT