This is possible. However, I think it's more likely that he's seen some shit and he's heard some shit. He has the money, and he has the fame to have a window into the upper-upper elite world that most of us will never see. He could be approaching the tough decision process of "should I do something about this or should I just sit back and make millions" by doing some research himself. We'll see if this ends up unraveling.

Either that or he was forced to prop up FE as a condition of being allowed to continue.

He also has the internet like all of us lol.

If anybody actually listened to that podcast the flat earth thing was a blip on the show. It was part of a larger point of question everything your told even if you think there's no way it could false.

He might be trying to get kids interested in science by delivering false information to get them to investigate the matter and find the truth out themselves.

I think you missed the point. The flat-earth (false) is supposed to make him look crazy, so that when he starts talking about anti-zionism (true) and anti-vaccine (true), he taints those with the flat earth stuff.

The flat-earth (false) is supposed to make him look crazy

That is what everyone says until they actually research the subject for themselves. It blows my mind when people know how corrupt the government is but then have 100% faith in NASA (a Nazi/government founded agency) that has been caught lying countless times.

I can prove the earth is round with my drone. I can watch a sunset at ground level and zoom the drone up extremely high to watch it a 2nd time. This is something totally within our control to experiment with.

I can prove the earth is round with my drone. I can watch a sunset at ground level and zoom the drone up extremely high to watch it a 2nd time.

That absolutely does not prove a globe. This is exactly the optical perspective that would happen on a flat plane. If anything it proves a flat plane and not a globe, there is no indication of any curvature in the video.

more flat earth sunset info

lol, so someone took the exact same video and relabeled it. While there is a point to be made about not trusting what someone else creates, I actually own a drone and can replicate this experiment for myself.

OK, so lets talk about the moon. The flat earth model says that the moon is small and not very far away. If this is correct, then we should be able to use a laser range finder to bounce off the moon when it's directly overhead to see that it's only a few dozen miles away.

I actually own a drone and can replicate this experiment for myself.

Like I said before, the experiment results are to be expected on a flat plane. As you go higher you should be able to see the sun again from that vantage point, that is the law of perspective.

The flat earth model says that the moon is small and not very far away.

Yes the moon is smaller and closer than is commonly accepted.

If this is correct, then we should be able to use a laser range finder to bounce off the moon when it's directly overhead to see that it's only a few dozen miles away.

You are assuming that the moon is a solid terraforming body like earth. There is evidence that it is actually a translucent body (stars have been seen through the dark side of the moon) and it seems to give off its own light (not reflected sunlight). I'm not sure where you came up with "a few dozen miles" as I'm not positive how far away it is, but it is defiantly not 240,000 miles away.

I can give you more info if you are interested. Do you also think that NASA landed on the moon? How deep does you trust go for NASA? I'm genuinely curious since you seem to be open to other conspiracies that also have truth to them.

As you go higher you should be able to see the sun again from that vantage point, that is the law of perspective.

If you can't see it equally from both points, then something is altering or blocking the light. It has nothing to do with perspective. Perspective could make it appear to be moving downward, but not be completely blocked from view.

You are assuming that the moon is a solid terraforming body like earth. There is evidence that it is actually a translucent body

Just as easily tested. Shine a laser on it and see what happens.

Do you also think that NASA landed on the moon? How deep does you trust go for NASA? I'm genuinely curious since you seem to be open to other conspiracies that also have truth to them

Since I'm an anarchist, I believe that the government actively lies to us about most things. So I believe that we have the technology to goto the moon, but that we can't make it through the radiation belts. Next year when Elon Musk goes to the moon, we'll know the answer right away. If he cancels the last minute, then we'll know it's fake.

If the moon is so close to us as you believe, then what is stopping amateur rocketeers from traveling there?

Perspective could make it appear to be moving downward, but not be completely blocked from view.

You obviously didn't watch the video that I linked.

Just as easily tested. Shine a laser on it and see what happens.

What happend when you shined a laser on the moon?

Since I'm an anarchist, I believe that the government actively lies to us about most things.

Ok so you understand that but you are blindly accepting the world view that the system is (heavily) pushing on us without question via NASA and their images.

So I believe that we have the technology to goto the moon, but that we can't make it through the radiation belts.

Again, so you will admit that NASA lied about the "biggest accomplishment in human history" But you trust their images (that they supposedly took during their trip to the moon and from the moon) to be your reality?? Are you starting to so the contradiction?

Next year when Elon Musk goes to the moon, we'll know the answer right away.

Omg.. Elon Musk is no different than NASA. Space X is just as fake as NASA. Do you really believe those rocket landings that just look like footage that is being played in reverse? Also the camera footage always seems to cut out right at the landing time, lol Space x..

If he cancels the last minute, then we'll know it's fake.

You heard it hear first, it's fake.

If the moon is so close to us as you believe

How close do I believe the moon is, did I make a claim? It is not so close that it can be reached by amateur rockets. Remember billionaire Richard Branson said that he would have low earth orbit public space travel over 10 years ago but he has failed, he can't do it even with billions at his disposal.

NASA and the idea of space as we were taught in school is a hoax.

What happend when you shined a laser on the moon?

Since I don't believe the moon is that close, it would be a waste of my time to go through the hassle. If I believed it was closer, then I would go through the trouble, even if to just shove it in the face of people on the Internet.

you are blindly accepting the world view that the system is (heavily) pushing on us without question via NASA and their images.

I believe I balance that with other views. I gave flat earth a fair chance and the two major points I rely on i have mentioned to you:

1. the drone test
2. laser range finding to the moon

Elon Musk is no different than NASA. Space X is just as fake as NASA.

While I think it was possible to cover up the Manhattan project and the moon landings in the 40s and 60s, I don't think it is possible quite in the same way today. Kids today have grown up believing the lies, so as engineers in these programs today, I don't think they will sit still to learn that everything they believed was a lie. When people wake up, they don't capitulate to the status quo hardly ever.

Since I don't believe the moon is that close, it would be a waste of my time to go through the hassle.

I never claimed that it is possible to reflect a laser off of the moon (I've never personally seen any proof of that), you brought that up not me.

I gave flat earth a fair chance

No offense but it is pretty obvious that you have never seriously researched the subject.

the drone test

As we already went over the drone test does not prove a globe.

laser range finding to the moon

You admitted that you have never even tried to point a laser at the moon and that is your main proof against flat earth? Ok, lol

While I think it was possible to cover up the Manhattan project and the moon landings in the 40s and 60s

Ok.. I'm with you so far..

I don't think it is possible quite in the same way today. Kids today have grown up believing the lies, so as engineers in these programs today, I don't think they will sit still to learn that everything they believed was a lie. When people wake up, they don't capitulate to the status quo hardly ever.

I do not understand what you are trying to say here at all.

You need to wrap your mind around the fact that NASA is a big lie just like the rest of the government agencies. They have been exposed, the cat is out of the bag. All of the information is available for you if you just look for it.

You admitted that you have never even tried to point a laser at the moon and that is your main proof against flat earth?

You haven't either though. There have been people that have tested the distance to the moon (not just NASA either). They could be lying, but the burden of proof is on you to prove this.

Let me ask you this, what test have you done to demonstrate that the moon or the sun is closer to the earth?

I do not understand what you are trying to say here at all.

Our friends and neighbors believe in the status quo. If you reveal or they discover on their own that everything was a lie, they don't just accept it in stride. No, they freak out.

Let me ask this, lets say that there is a young college student that was born in the 1990s hearing nothing about how great NASA is. Let's also say that after college they get a job at NASA. Day one they arrive and they are taken into a back room and it's explained to them that everything is a lie. Do you think they are just going to nod their head or are they going to freak out?

All of the information is available for you if you just look for it.

Where is the information on the distance to the moon?

You haven't either though.

Right, but it is your 2nd biggest proof against flat earth for some reason. I've seen no evidence that you can reflect a laser off of the moon.

There have been people that have tested the distance to the moon (not just NASA either).

Are you talking about the claim that there is a reflective device on the moon left by the Apollo astroNOTS? You already admitted that the moon land was a hoax and they can't get through the radiation belts, not sure your logic on that one.

but the burden of proof is on you to prove this.

Why would the burden be on me? I say it is not possible and you have shown no evidence to the contrary.

Day one they arrive and they are taken into a back room and it's explained to them that everything is a lie.

They don't get taken to a back room and told everything is a lie. Most of the people at NASA are probably completely ignorant to the facts. You must not understand how the military works and compartmentalization works. Everyone just does there specific task and the left hand doesn't know what the right hand is doing. Not that many people would even need to be in on it, only a few at the top.

Where is the information on the distance to the moon?

The sun has been measured using sextants and theodolites to be approx 32 miles wide and about 3000 miles away. Notice the hot spot directly under the sun this would not be possible if the sun was really 93 million miles away. I can zoom in to the moon extremely close with my Nikon P900 camera. To me it does not appear to be 258,000 miles away. Do you really think that the sun is 93 million miles away and the moon is 250,000 miles and they just both happen to appear the exact same size in the sky? What a crazy coincidence.

I've seen no evidence that you can reflect a laser off of the moon.

It reflects sunlight, which is what creates moonlight. I know you said that it is translucent and creates it's own light, but I have never heard this claimed before, let alone seen any evidence to even suggest this. To even suggest this would require an explanation for everything less than a full moon. So while I don't mind entertaining the idea, I feel like this is some sort of joke you're playing here.

Are you talking about the claim that there is a reflective device on the moon left by the Apollo astroNOTS?

Two things here. First, the moons's surface is reflective on it's own and second, while I don't think man has landed on the moon, robotic moon rovers have.

Why would the burden be on me? I say it is not possible and you have shown no evidence to the contrary.

The way that the burden of proof typically works is that the person trying to convince the other has the burden. Since you're trying to convince me, then you have the burden. If you don't want to convince me, then I suppose we're done.

They don't get taken to a back room and told everything is a lie. Most of the people at NASA are probably completely ignorant to the facts. You must not understand how the military works and compartmentalization works.

At some point though, somebody is going to see that there is a lie and they're going to become a whistleblower. There are too many people that work on aspects of their work to keep it a secret forever.

This is why they had to destroy all the original tapes from the moon landing. If they had control of everything so perfectly, then they could have kept them for later use rather than resorting to destruction.

Do you really think that the sun is 93 million miles away and the moon is 250,000 miles and they just both happen to appear the exact same size in the sky? What a crazy coincidence.

The fact is that they are the same size, whether the earth is a globe or flat. So it's just as much a coincidence that they're the same size in your flat earth....so that would mean that the flat earth is a hoax.

while I don't think man has landed on the moon, robotic moon rovers have.

Really?? Why do you think that?

Since you're trying to convince me, then you have the burden. If you don't want to convince me, then I suppose we're done.

I'm not trying to convince you of anything. You are the one that made the claims. Your first claim was flat earth is false. Your other claim was it is possible to reflect a laser off of the moon.

If you don't want to convince me, then I suppose we're done.

That is fine, as you provided no evidence for your claim.

At some point though, somebody is going to see that there is a lie and they're going to become a whistleblower.

What do they have to gain by becoming a whistleblower and who would believe them? Nobody is going to rock the boat and ruin their career whistleblowing about something that nobody will believe them about. There are people that actually claim to be NASA whistleblowers but I have no way to prove if they are real so I don't bring them up.

This is why they had to destroy all the original tapes from the moon landing. If they had control of everything so perfectly, then they could have kept them for later use rather than resorting to destruction.

Who said that they had control of everything so perfectly? It is over the top obvious if you actually study the video of the ISS astroNots "up in space". There are tons of green screen fails and wire harness fails. They are far from perfect but most people don't even pay attention to it, they just assume it is all real.

The fact is that they are the same size, whether the earth is a globe or flat. So it's just as much a coincidence that they're the same size in your flat earth\

No it is not the same. In the current heliocentric model everything just exploded from nothingness and the earth, sun , moon etc were all just a random coincidental accident placed in perfect positioning. In the flat earth model we are the center and the sun moon stars revolve around us. The sun and the moon or about the same size (as they appear) and there was obviously an intelligent creator that set our system up, not just random amazing accident like the current model suggests.

The fact is that they are the same size

I'm saying they are roughly the same size. The current heliocentric model says that the sun is actually over a million times bigger than the earth and millions of miles away so it only APPEARS to be the same size as the moon. That is the crazy coincidence. The current model says they ARE NOT the same size and it is only an illusion. I'm saying it's not an illusion, they are smaller and closer.

so that would mean that the flat earth is a hoax.

Your logic is not making sense. Why even chime in on the flat earth topic if you have never even researched it?

Really?? Why do you think that?

Because they aren't a technological miracle. Heck we even have self-driving cars today. So robotic technology is easily within the realm of possibility.

If you agree that robots are possible, but just don't believe they can be delivered to the moon (even a 3000 mile away moon), then I think that's a different argument. Here you'd be suggesting that rocketry is impossible. If rocektry is impossible, then so are jet engines. However since I have slown in a jet airplane, then I know that jet engines and therefore rocketry is possible.

I'm not trying to convince you of anything. You are the one that made the claims. Your first claim was flat earth is false. Your other claim was it is possible to reflect a laser off of the moon.

Well I have no interest in convincing you of anything. So this discussion is moot.

Nobody is going to rock the boat and ruin their career whistleblowing about something that nobody will believe them about.

Edward Snowden did. So whistleblowers do in fact exist.

It is over the top obvious if you actually study the video of the ISS astroNots "up in space". There are tons of green screen fails and wire harness fails.

That video you're referring to was from NASA, so why do you trust that they didn't introduce the flaws that you mention?

Your logic is not making sense. Why even chime in on the flat earth topic if you have never even researched it?

I've researched it enough to formulate the two points I gave you above (drone and laser tests).

You realize that god could just as easily create a round earth as flat earth. He is all powerful, meaning that it's within his power to do anything.

Are you a young earth creationist as well? Follow the KJV bible?

I'm sure there are many celebrities who believe in conspiracy theories. I think it's more likely Irving is just less concerned with his public image.

This this this. Most celebritie don't want to lose the money or fame associated with societies admiration for them because they are on a "fringe" level of ideas and like /u/sryan8913 said, he has the internet too haha

Or he is of black hebrew faith. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Hebrew_Israelites

Why this obsession with flat earth? It's real, get the fuck over it.

You mean exactly like Alex Jones? Kyrie is just a dumb kid watching you tube videos. But you are right about that process being used, especially against this sub.